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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2022
- "The Chosen" is a phenomenon in our day. Many people watch it. Many people are passionate about it. It is a polarizing show. Is it a good thing to watch "The Chosen"? Is it wrong to watch it? In today's episode, Jon and Justin aim to have a conversation that goes underneath the specific questions about "The Chosen" and gets to the real issues pertaining to the sufficiency of Scripture, how we are to worship God, the second commandment, and the quest for illegitimate religious experience.
Semper Reformanda: Jon and Justin talk more openly about the dangers of media like "The Chosen," as well as the potential value of so called "secular" media.
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My husband and I watched the first two seasons. Each time we watched we did enjoy the show but we found ourselves uncomfortable with all the additions and twists to/of scripture and questioned weather God would want us watching. Satan's question to Eve, "did God really say?" It's his way to misrepresent God's word. In our discernment we have chosen Not to watch the Chosen anymore although we really enjoyed it. It just feels wrong! People may start reading the Bible after watching, and I pray they will, but I think that people are basically lazy in this area and would prefer to wait for the next episode or rewatch an old one.
Hey, I agree with your discernment for you and your husband. The people I worry a lot about are the collage age students, prostitutes, those addicted, etc who have never known the Love of God or even meet Jesus in there lives. If this show is playing in there room at 3 am and God uses it to touch their hearts, I am all for it.
Christ is preached too in the Chosen.
"Satan's question to Eve, "did God really say?" It's his way to misrepresent God's word.". Satan did say that. Curious, what denomination are you? Thank you and God bless.
Rest assured. I became a believer in jesus because of the Chosen tv show. I was basically an atheist before. Unless one is severely mentally challenged, no one will confuse this with the real thing
Unless you think that Satan brought me to faith in Jesus
What specifically is wrong with the Chosen?
An actor portraying Jesus is not an idol or an image to be worshipped unless people make it that way. It's just like any other movie/show about Jesus's life. They show the most beautiful thing about Him which is His love and bringing us Salvation! The Chosen helped my husband and I fall deeper in love with Jesus. Of course nothing and no one should take the place of spending time in the Bible and prayer. We shouldn't add to or take from Gods Word. As long as you understand it is just a movie and the important thing is to go and read scripture yourself for knowledge. God bless you all. Let us continue to walk in love✝️💜
NO... It's false stories/inclusions are deceiving the masses ( millions searching for real TRUTH and getting ONLY DISTORTIONS/ADDITIONS .
Not an image? That's funny.
A depiction of Jesus that isn't Jesus is literally what an idol is, by definition. Whether in motion or not. Whether "good intentioned" or not. Do you think the Israelites were good intentioned when they made the golden calf to represent God? Of course, they were! Even our best intentions are evil.
I come to this video 6 months later….a week after the pride flag showed up. I wasn’t invested, didn’t know the producer or history of the show, just picked up a couple DVDs off the store shelf. I think I enjoyed season 1, but never finished season 2. For me it was discomfort with how Jesus was being portrayed, I think.
Now, a pride flag in an official outtake I heard of by accident ….and my heart was grieved. I did more research and during that week God convicted me of the 2nd commandment. I threw away not just the chosen but dozens of DVDs that show Christs face and a beautiful picture hugging a child. I thought it was beautiful, but I want the even more beautiful true Jesus, not man’s creation. I say that in person and people make faces before looking away. Thank you for discussing this…it was a great comfort to me.
God put it on my heart (heavily - I cannot even describe it) to share the dangers of this show (fairly close to those covered here) with my Bible study group. It was not well received,. They had donated, bought the Bible studies, and watched all the social media. They were captives and so deep into it….all they could do was rebuke me and show shock I would question the show. Actually giving the argument they HAVE to fill in the white stuff….it makes him so relatable and brings millions to God.
To me, thinking you can display the “authentic Jesus” better than God’s word is the height of arrogance.
I pray God will convict them in other conversations or study of the Word. It isn’t about who is right, it is about resisting the sneaky snares of satan that come in the door looking wonderful…..and then proceed to make messes inside your home. I pray for all who are caught up in the show. And bless you for sharing your thoughts.
I have tried to talk to people, including a pastor who couldn't say enough good about the show, and I was made to look like I was wrong about it
Be encouraged, you made a wise decision...this is a different gospel. Gal. 1 6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.
11 But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. 12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
You made the right decision. That show is just a way to con gullible Christians into ''donating'' to them. The director is a rich guy yet cries like a girl during each live show to make people feel emotionally forced to give money. I dont even wanna start with thieir fake Jesus. I think that guy made a profession of pretendng to be Jesus. A jesus, who is powerless and chuckles at stupid jokes and sobs like a girl for no reason!
"I think biblically" channel has very good point by point detail, backed by scripture. I have never even had a desire to watch this show, right from the start discernment was telling me it was "not worth my time". Now, 3-4 years later, I have no regrets or desire. Holy Spirit speaks ever so subtly most of the time.
I have never been a person who could sit down and read a book for enjoyment purposes. 20 years later I still love to read the Bible, the stories are rich in everything good, the most important thing is that it's true. Stop watching TV, cancel those useless mind numbing cable packages. Learn how to read your Bible, remember what God has done.
As I have grown older (christian for 30+ years) my love for the scriptures has grown exponentially and everything else has decreased.
Certainly reading the Bible is the first priority. Right now I’m going to read eight chapters.
especially when you know it is God breathed, it is the only book written by our Savior, the eternal Creator
The more I read scripture the more I realize how far off the church is from the bible in general. I got closer to God thru His word, not church. In fact it was church that had turned me against God when I was young and ignorant because I was deceived into thinking that the churches were of God. Those who really read the bible and knows what it says know that the antichrist beast system is religious deception. That should be obvious with all the doctrines of devils that is being taught. Bible says that they'll work signs and wonders but it'll only deceive those who don't know the bible because you don't know Christ if you don't know His word.
My point is that Christians seem to want to replace reading and studying the Bible with watching a TV series where you don’t get the true word of God in it’s proper context. I recently finished reading through the Bible in a year and it has been such a blessing and I have started reading through it again. As Christians, we have become lazy about reading and studying God’s word and I was one of them. It takes a commitment to do that but as we read and study the Bible, we are able to discern what is true and what is false.
If you don't like The Chosen don't watch it. I like it and so I watch it. 'bye.
We are to study, discern and warn!!! watched a few episodes of The chosen and felt warnings going off in my head abut the series. I stopped watching it.
I'm glad you a mature Christian. May I ask you a question please. can we count on you to enter a collage dorm at 3 am and minister to a hurting or suicidal student? No, you would be locked up. But if the student, or housewife, etc turns on the tv and TheChosen is playing and God can use it to touch their heart, then I am all for it!
The ad that I got before this episode came on was for The Chosen 😂
🤣
Awesome
Me too lol there's no coincidence on that lol. 😅
Ha Ha Ha Ha.... now that is funny.....balance to the click and bait type of advertising so people click to listen to these two men.... bugs me that they need to trick you to listen to them....but that is the nature of this venue....still ...it always remains underhanded to me....but this was FUNNY!!
Same here
So sad that so many self proclaiming Christians would rather choose entertainment over God and his word.
The Chosen blasphemies God and goes against his actual word in so many ways.....taking out some important words that the real Jesus Christ said while diminishing his true character.
....and many self proclaiming Christians just eat it all up...no
I am not here to bash religions of any source, but growing up in a Irish/ Catholic family, I didn't get the full gospel because of all the formalities of the church. When I left home and tried to find my own way I obviously got lost in the ways of the world. Then I went to a meeting in a Christian church, no denomination (southern Baptist, Methodist, etc) is where I found the gospel. I always had Jesus in my heart so it was Him who lead me to where I was supposed to be. Thank you Heavenly Father!❤
I stopped watching when both men admit they haven’t watched 1 second of the show. Proverbs tells us it’s a folly and a shame to a person to answer a matter before he hears it.
There are plenty of The Chosen trailers, commercials, interviews, etc, out there. I knew in my spirit immediately upon seeing/reading all these that the show was not for me, I could not watch it. And having that discernment was key for me. Friends asked me to watch an episode, want to know what I think about it. But I couldn't go against that inner warning from the Holy Spirit.
Sorry guys, but if you want to comment on something, you need to know what it is first, and since you admit to not watching, you honestly do not have any idea what you are talking about when it come to the content of the show. There have been portraits painted of Jesus for centuries, film portrayals since film was invented, and the idea that if people see an actor as Jesus that they will worship that portrayal is flat out stupid and not backed by any facts. The guy playing Jesus is a actor, an actor hired to read the script and take direction from the director, he doesn’t think he is Jesus, we don’t think he is Jesus, you don’t know him so you don’t know what his beliefs are, but in the end it doesn’t matter what his beliefs are because he is just an actor hired to play a part, we are not asking him to lead church ministries. You some how got this idea that those who watch don’t know their Bible and can’t tell the difference between Scripture and parts used to fill in a character or scene. The show is not a substitute for Scripture, it is encouraging people to actually read the Bible. Not sure why you would be so against that, that you had to make a video telling people why they shouldn’t watch when you have zero first hand knowledge of the content or message of the show, or know the facts on how God is actually working through the series. Sorry but that makes you sound a little dishonest to me. I’ve actually seen the series and I know my Bible, and I can state with confidence that you are way off the mark on this.
You are not apart of the official chosen fan group nor have heard the actor speak on this. Many fans call and see him jesus and see his eyes/ face when they pray and at the chosen convention, Dallas stated it was okay to do that, and the actor does not rebuke when people say that to him, or fall at his feet as one woman did when he was out in a resturant. The chosen puts in scenes not in the Bible and most fans according to their own marketing team, are people who never really read the Bible, and was not active in the faith or going to church. I;ve had many new ones ask me to show them where certain scenes were in the Bible, and got confused when I told them they were not. This is a re-telling of the Gospel narrative. But it needs no re-telling. Telling a different story about the way Mary was cured, as opposed to scripture , just erased the awesome message scripture reveals concerning how mary was cured of her demons. Herein lies the issue.
@@nycosplayernetworkcospodbe5265 Oh, so you know what groups I’m a part of and who I have heard speak? Tell me exactly where do you get this “knowledge” from? There are millions of fans, so it isn’t exactly “many” who have said that. So, you went to the convention, how way it? Care to share the clip where Dallas said those exact words? I’ve actually seen the clip of Jonathan talking about that woman. She didn’t refer to him as Jesus or worship him a such, he made a point to introduce himself and the whole thing was that she took meeting the actor who portrays Jesus, and who does it quite well I might add, as a sign that God was going to be with her and her husband through a trial that they were going through. And in case you didn’t know, God can and does bring people into our lives to confirm His faithfulness through the hard times. It’s great that people who never really read the Bible or are active in the faith or are going to church are interested in a show about Jesus. That’s exactly what we want, people interested in Jesus. That’s how it works, you draw people to Jesus, they want to know more so they start reading the Bible and going to church, and they get saved, and the angels rejoice. And if you were part of any of the “fan groups” you would know that that is exactly what is happening. You claim they are “telling a different story about the way Mary was cured, as opposed to scripture, just erased the awesome message scripture reveals concerning how Mary was cured of her demons”, well apparently you don’t know scripture, because the Bible never tells how Mary was cured of her demon; it just states the fact that she had been cured of seven demons. So exactly who’s doing the re-telling here? Do you even know what the Gospel is? It’s the good news of Jesus Christ, who He is and what He came to do; it’s not the backstory of the disciples or the Romans. And the Chosen has been spot on with the “Gospel” message. If you actually watched the series and knew the Bible, you would know that. When they have shown the stories from the Bible they have been fully in-line with scripture, even word for word. They have been clear on who Jesus is and what He came to do. They have declared Him to be the Messiah, the son of God, fully God and fully man, the only way for salvation, He is the first and last and He was in the beginning with God, He is the I Am, the Word and He is God, they have shown that He is compassionate, that He has the power to heal, raise the dead, cast out demons and calm the storm, and He has the authority to forgive sins. That my friend is the real gospel message, and that is what saves people and not some imagined backstory for a disciple. They have shown nothing that contradicts scripture or the character of Jesus. The real issue lies with people who don’t actually follow the series or what goes on behind the scenes, yet they think they can come across like they do. And just so you know, we can spot them a mile away.
This is one of the most charitable, intelligent, well-reasoned, Bible-focused and Jesus-glorifying conversations I’ve come across regarding problems with The Chosen. Thank you both for keeping the focus on the importance of the Word of God!! People often get led into deception when they want “more” than what our loving God has provided for us in His very Word. 2 Peter 1:3 indeed! May the Lord greatly bless your ministries.
I always knew there was God, but was never raised in a home of Church and reading the Bible. The Chosen has made me want to know about God and Jesus and all that is holy. And for that, I am thankful for The Chosen.
Why do you want Dallas Jenkins to tell you about God and Jesus ?
Go straight to the Bible and you can have a real relationship with Jesus and have revealed God to you by the Holy Spirit? The movie series has Mormonism and Catholicism mixed in. It’s not accurate and is heretical.
And that's great, but now would be a good time to stop watching that show. ❤️
@@chria7247 Thank you for replying to my comments. I’m always open to truths that I’m not aware of. I’m going to share this video with my husband. He started reading the Bible after seeing the Chosen. In fact, this is his 3rd time reading it. I’m struggling with the Bible since I not much for reading. I considering an audio version. 💕🙏🏼
@@chria7247 Why? The Chosen is an "inspired show" (Its probably far better than watching something trashy) Even the apostle paul (from the bible) said "If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things." This would include art, movies, good books, nature, etc - even shows that have inspired "millions" to read their scriptures and know Jesus better.
@@chria7247 There will always be somebody telling you what is/isnt biblically correct. Do this do that and dont do this and dont do that.
In 10 or 20 years The Chosen is going to look and sound really cheesy. That’s what happens when shows go with the current trends to attract audiences and play up the emotional appeal and promote the actors. Can’t wait until it comes to pass.
Haven’t finished this podcast but wanted to jump in and say that people claimed that folks were drawn to Christianity from “the shack” which was absolutely blasphemous. It resulted in false conversions at best.
The Shack was raved about in a church I went to but no longer attend and I watched the movie and it didnt make for a comfortable watch
Never even heard of it
Matthew Everhard has also provided a UA-cam discussion of this and concures with you, brothers. These discussions have caused me to re-evaluate my viewing of the various renditions of Christ in movies, including the Passion of Christ, which had become Easter fare for my family. Thanks for this coverage, gents.
I would say The Chosen has the same risks as following/listening to any preaching. You can gain wisdom, hope and encouragement from great preaching, and you can overemphasize the authority of a preacher or make them an idol with great preaching. The Chosen is no different in this regard.
20 minutes into this video. Wow!!! I watched it not realizing. You are correct. when I had to turn it off I couldn’t wait to watch it again. I did feel uncomfortable at times and should have turned it off. I’ve read the gospels and should have know better. That feeling had to have been the Lord trying to get my attention. Thanks guys glad I check this video out.
PRAISE GOD ALMIGHTY for warning you.
If it is not in The Holy Scripture's, we must REJECT it, no matter how many people say it's 'okay' and doesn't hurt anything. God bless. 👣
What is the difference between a TV series creating video images that may not be depicting the Bible 100% accurately to millions of viewers, and 2 men on a UA-cam video channel that may not be depicting the Bible 100% accurately to millions of viewers?
Exactly!!!!
Thank you sir for trying to squelch any enthusiasm and interests people might have to The Chosen. It's reaching people for Jesus that might never attend a Church or have never read a Bible. Once these people have seen the love of Jesus in the Chosen, hopefully they will begin to want to find out more and begin to read the Scriptures. Remember what was said to the Pharisees when they were considering what to do about the Christian movement? Be careful what you do/say, against this. If it's not of God it will amount to nothing, if it is, you may be fighting against God!
Thank you both. This was a great discussion.. I did watch the first three seasons of The Chosen. And while the acting, the sets and scenery, etc. are very well done, too many controversies made me decide to stop watching it.
One main point you made was excellent; Since a lot of this Hollywood production is artistic license, therefore fiction, I don't want scenes and dialog from The Chosen to taint my reading of the Scripture with inaccuracies!
Spend enough time in the Word and that simply will not happen. Of course, apply that same logic to preaching and you will abandon all the churches you can attend, as they all tell stories and use analogies that are not accurate to scripture.
PEOPLE ARE SEEKING TRUTH ... NOT FICTIONALIZED STORY TELLING ... . TOO SERIOUS A MATTER IN VERYYYYY SERIOUS TIMES.
WALK AWAY.
"The Chosen" is unabashedly, openly, and defiantly another gospel. We know what Paul says about "another gospel". Read Galatians.
YES, EXACTLY!!!❤️🇦🇺
How do know it is another Gospel? because God touched your heart thru a life changing encounter with Christ, maybe a family member, or you were brought up in the church, maybe you're as old as me and God was still allowed in public schools. If a collage student, an abused wife, or any number of people who do not Christ as lord turns on the TV at 3 am and sees The Chosen and God uses it to touch them. then I am all for it. is the show 100% truth? NO. but God can still use it.
@Charlotte Creamer Precisely
If people need a movie to draw them to the Lord they have a problem !
Hey, just a thought. If Christians would get out of there comfort zone and spread Gods message. Then the Chosen would not be needed! when's the last time you invited someone to church, or saw someone having a bad day and prayed for them face to face ?
@@BeagleBellowBingo!
Excellent discussion. We have a hard enough time getting the text right without adding speculation between the lines. Let's avoid adding words to the mouth of our Lord.
Absolutely. To put words in His mouth, absolutely right
ABSOLUTELY.
If the least thing the chosen does is make people seek Jesus than I truly dont see the issue. Ive read that people began to go to church and read the bible after watching the chosen. I see that as a win.
thank you
Thank you for your insights! And saying the Holy Writ is sufficient enough! Concerning the graven image aspect of these kinds of shows, many fans especially women fans, say they see the actors' eyes and face when they pray! Some women have said they hope Jesus looks like jonathan! People can be so fleshy and that is what they want. The concentration on His humanity over His diety is fleshly and easy. Honoring His diety calls on more of us than many want to hand over. Jesus said what is of the flesh is flesh, what is of the Spirit is Spirit, and the true worshippers worship in Spirit and truth! No face of an actor needed!
I've watched The Chosen, and I enjoy each episode. I think each one has surpassed the previous ones, which is really hard to do. The series isn't meant to replace the Bible or active reality of living life as a Christian. I like the actors' portrayal of the characters, it helps when I read even more to see it. I think you're being overly critical over something that is blessing a whole lot of people.
Now The Chosen has allowed the "pride" agenda on the set!!! Its a hot topic!!!
I watched about 6 episodes and had to stop. I found myself not respecting the Jesus portrayed. He seemed weak, not very smart, and personality wise, not authoritative… I genuinely didn’t respect him. When he was practicing out loud for the sermon on the mount. That did it for me. They tried to make him “too” human. I couldn’t watch anymore after that. Kind of hard to watch something when the main character doesn’t have my respect.
I was like Jesus who said do not practice what to say if you are brought before Judges because the Holy spirit will give you the words in that moment was practising a sermon. Hmmm.
Just because Judas helped Jesus get to the cross, does it make it a good thing that Judas did? No it doesn't, Jesus says it would have been better that he was never born, so this argument I'm seeing from people in comments that the chosen has got me to be interested in Jesus and the bible again does not justify misrepresenting, and on purpose I might add, the word of God and the God of the word, if people took the scriptures seriously, and they were more biblically literate, they would never take these so called artistic liberties with God Almighty. I like to ponder, how would the apostle Paul and or Peter receive these days and respond to what is happening if they were here, it hits home with me when I see people make videos and try to imagine Peter or Paul being okay with it, I don't think they'd be on board with much of what is called Christian these days😢
I wish I would have watched this before I started watching The Chosen, but unfortunately I started watching it at a time where I had left an apostate church, and I had stopped reading the Bible. The positive aspect is it did get me to start reading my Bible, but not for the reason you might think. I saw little things I knew wasn’t there, and tried to see if it actually was in the Bible. When Dallas Jenkins stated that 80% of the script was extrabiblical, I got nervous. When they started setting up a stage and discussed which color wrap Jesus should wear for the sermon on the mount, and also the part where Jesus asked Matthew help Him write it, I almost didn’t watch the first episode of the third season. It was there that I stopped. The selective editing of the sermon really upset me, as did the little flirty scenes, which not only aren’t in the Bible, they distract from any Biblical message you might find.
Yes, it makes you “feel” good, but should we really be following our feelings and emotions?
This last year I’ve really started reading the Bible again, and in all honesty, it is enough. I’ve also looked into other religions, because they are starting to blend. If you look at what is going on at the Abrahamic Family House, three religions that are incompatible are coming together to promote tolerance. The more I’ve dived into religion I’m realizing that there is a counterfeit version of Christianity, and Catholicism doesn’t see Jesus in the same was as true Biblical Christians do. I’d even go as far as to call Catholics Gnostics, who worship the “Queen of Heaven” (see Jeremiah 7 and 44) instead of Jesus. At least the Roman Catholic Church.
We have to be careful to weigh everything against scripture. Not everyone who says, “Lord, Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven. This makes me so sad. Because I realize the reason I have never fit into the charismatic churches I was raised in is because I questioned some of their practices because they didn’t mesh what I was reading with scripture.
I am not currently in a church. I’m finding very hard to find one that teaches the truth, that actually uses the Bible in their Bible studies. But when I do, I will return to church. I’d appreciate your prayers.
This is excellent. Please keep telling the truth in love!
Apostle Paul says in Phillipians 1:18 " What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed; and in this I rejoice."
And Paul meant yes that is good to speak on Jesus as it draws, but even Paul would want people to draw to the RIGHT Jesus!
@@nycosplayernetworkcospodbe5265 Matthew 13:24-30
“You’re going to start reading this understanding that you’ve absorbed from the show into the pages of scripture when you read the Bible” 💯
When I started watching The Chosen, I could already see how this show DOES effect how I read God’s Word and I don’t like it. I have to pray and ask God now to help me clear the show out.
That’s not a positive for a Christian! 😅
I will say, once I started watching I knew somethings weren’t right, like you guys said, they were filling in the “white spaces between the pages” of God’s Word. It has forced me to study God’s Word to refreshen what is actually biblical and accurate.
If you have not seen The Choosen then you should not say anything. I have watched season 1 and 2 9 times and each time I watch it I find something new. It has brought me closer to God and the Bible. I only watched a few minutes of this video and had to stop.
Don't they always say, God works in mysterious ways? But these people apparently think God can't use a film to reach people...a film that has Jesus teachings from the Bible in it.
@@terryowen6759 That is true but not everyone has a Bible but has a phone or a TV.
I watched 3 seasons of The Chosen. While I admit that I enjoyed the series, I had a nagging feeling inside that there is something not right about it. I went back to rewatch it again and saw too much that didn't sit well with me. I couldn't continue rewatching. Instead, I began looking to see what evangelicals had to say about it. The series bothered me with the way Jesus was presented. Some of the words that The Chosen Jesus spoke were from the Book of Mormon. I agree. The series took great liberty in showing a Jesus that has not been revealed to us in scripture. Adding words that Jesus said is demonic. I can no longer endorse The Chosen.
Galatians 1:8-9 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
These unbelievers don't realize and understand that Jesus is actually part of the Godhead.
He is the Almighty God.
They are trying to humanise him. We know that he is part human but also part divine.
The Chosen just reminded me to have faith always. Let’s not complicate things.
Misguided faith or faith in anything besides Jesus Christ who is God is worse than no faith at all
TRUE FAITH SEEKS TRUE KNOWLEDGE AND FACTS. WITHOUT... YOU BUILD ON SAND.
I've never seen one episode and plan to keep it that way.
You guys should watch the show THEN do your commentary
No, they shouldn't. The Holy Spirit can and will guide us into all knowledge and truth. That's the spiritual gift of discernment being exercised.
Excellent commentary, brothers! And to say Jesus is the law throws the painstaking Holy Spirit inspired work that Scripture does to explain to us the dire need for the penal substitutionary atonement of Christ because the letter only kills the sinner. Christ died under the law on our behalf. So to say He is the law is to confuse clear AND CORE doctrines of the faith.
Thank you!
Amen🙏
Precisely
I agree! The Law condemns. Jesus saves.
Well done. I warned my Christian friends 3 years ago about the weirdness of The Chosen, but they just said that God can use anything. even if it's twisted or weird. Seriously.
I think sometimes people can get "spooked" out if something is not from the bible that would help them to learn more about God (and I wouldn't judge anyone if they had any reservations) However if you think about it even many christian religions today use different bibles (protestant 66 books, catholic 71 books, etc - along with their different interpretations) So if something helps to "inspire" one to learn more about Jesus that is probably a good thing. I heard the Chosen (for some at least) have made them want to learn more about the scriptures (and Jesus too) so I don't think "He' would dislike that. The apostle Paul himself taught (from the bible) "If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things" So those things mentioned (by apostle paul) could also include good art, nature, good relationships, good books talks, and yes - even movies (like the chosen too) One good gauge is something good or not would be "by the fruits you shall know them) . Anyway food for thought and God bless :)
The show is amazing, makes me feel good. as long as your not worshiping the actors like there above you. Its a show to make you feel what Jesus did for you. I felt so good when watching this show and didn't see anything that would make it be something bad.
Here's the thing. Do you rather have a lost person watch the chosen and get introduced to the gospel, and let the Holy Spirit start working on that person's heart, or not?
An unbeliever will find it harder to read the Bible than to watch a tv show. Just look at how many Bibles are printed out every year vs how many unbelievers buy them.
An unsaved person doesn't know the technicalities of a Christianity, and once a person gets saved and receives the Holy Spirit, He will begin the sanctification process and all other things like not worshiping idols etc will begin to make sense.
I agree the show isn't perfect, and for the seasoned Christian many things won't appear 100% perfect, but if it saves one Soul in the process, and the message doesn't depart from the gospel of salvation by faith, I'm more grateful for it than not.
Are you good with these new Christians praying to Mary because the actor who played Jesus asked them too? Where this information comes from matters. Satan is the great deceiver. He will lead many astray by using 99% truth. The Galatian heresy wasn’t they rejected Jesus, they just wanted to add one little part back into salvation, something God instituted, so it sounded right!
@@THEOCAST Mark 9
40For he that is not against us is on our part.
41For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.
@@THEOCAST Mary is the mother of God.she was chosen by God the Father the almighty to bear his only begotten son. She was mentioned by God the father in the Genesis 3: 14 -15. She's not an ordinary woman. If almighty God chose her out of millions of women in the world to bear his son ..who are you to underestimate her?? Catholics don't worship her but rever her and give her the respect she deserves because she's an important person and the rosary is an important and powerful weapon. If anyone claiming to be a follower of christ and underestimate the mother of God there's a serious problem because the Satan hates the blessed mother Mary and he'll do everything to prevent people from seeking her help.
Why need entertainment to spread the gospel? I mean the first Christians didn’t use entertainment for that. They didn’t put on a stage show, did they?
I have watched the Chosen and I found it both very good, and very true to Scripture.
You say you want to argue for the sufficiency of Scripture. That´s good, but the Chosen itself does not want to or claim to add to Scripture. If you would use this to add to Scripture in your own mind, that would be wrong, but since the show expressly says it´s not intended for that, I would say that´s not a problem with the show but in the attitude of some.
The show does portray many events in the Gospels, and when it does, it´s very faithful.
The sufficiency of Scripture is for theology and guidance for life (all you need for salvation and godliness). It does not say other things cannot be good or profitable.
Another objection you brought was the 2nd commandment.
The commandment about images was not given about Jesus after the incarnation but of God in the Old Testament (before the incarnation) and specifically in a worship context. So it might apply if someone used an image from the Chosen, put in on a wall and fell down before it. I don´t think it can reasonably be applied to portraying Jesus in general.
You gave the quote "I am the Law of Moses" as a problem.
First of all, it´s not from the book of Mormon. It is instead, I believe, a summary of many biblical concepts taught by Jesus.
Context matters, in the scene a pharisée warns Jesus that if he does not change they will have to apply the Law of Moses to him (ie kill him for blasphemy)
He responds "I am the law of Moses". In context he challenges the notion that he is in conflict with the Law of Moses, He is instead the embodiment of the Law (in that he perfectly fulfills the Law and that the Law speaks of him in sacrifices etc.) and by attacking him the pharisée now is in conflict with the Law itself.
Even if they were not your main problems you also made some other points about the director and actors;
- The guy who plays Jesus is a catholic. But what does that matter since what he says and portrays is the vision of a protestant director? An actor acts, he is not the one deciding what the character says or does.
- You say the director has said we have the same Jesus as mormons. I have watched many interviews with him and this is simply not true.
What he did say is that many mormons appreciate the show since it is faithful to the Gospels (the Gospels are seen as Scriptures in mormonism as well)
Please don´t spread falsehoods.
I am not saying I think you should all watch the show, especially if you know you have problem with this kind of media influencing your theology (that you have a hard time keeping these things separate in your mind). But it´s a mistake to make this a general rule, since many christians don´t have this problem and have been richly blessed by the show. And everyone I know that has seen the show says it has made them read the Bible more, not less. It also makes them think more about what the Bible says and what it means. This is a very good thing.
"...and trust that God will work through the means He has ordained." Where does it in Scripture ever say God does not use other means to draw people to Himself? God used miracles in the NT times to draw people to Himself, He has used music, He has used great authors like CS Lewis or Bunyan. Does the Bible ever use the sufficiency of Scripture this way, to tell us not to read or listen to music since the Bible is sufficient? No, it does not. It is a mistaken application.
I remember, as a teenager, wandering around my church one day to find an empty room to sit in, and spotted a drawing pasted up on the wall of a woman holding a smiling baby. I recognized it was supposed to be Mary holding a baby Jesus, and this wave of emotion crashed into me. All my life, Jesus was this figure who always said and did the right thing, and everything about His depictions were so stoic, it was hard to see Jesus as a real living, thinking, feeling human. This little image of Jesus as a baby, laughing in delight at His mother made it 'click' in my head, truly how human He is. Just like all of us, Jesus had favorite foods, things that made Him laugh, all these things that make us unique and alive, but He also managed to be perfect and obey all of The Lord's commandments. He had a life of His own. He could have had dreams of being a grandpa, or owning a shop; anything regular people dream about, and instead, He chose to devote His life to serving us, until inevitably suffering and dying for us.
Artistic interpretations aren't to be taken as scripture. We have to remember when we look at art and interpretation, that it is not the real thing. Like any historical movie about the American Revolution or something, we watch with the knowledge that George Washington wasn't ACTUALLY like that, and of course some of these characters only exist in the movie, not in real life. Likewise, I think they can still be tools to help us make connections and see things in new perspectives.
Perhaps consider what you feel when you watch it. I haven't felt any particularly spiritual feelings while watching it (the first few episodes I've watched), so perhaps it's more neutral in terms of whether it brings you closer to Jesus Christ or not, but it has helped me build a greater appreciation for the sacrifices and difficult decisions made by Jesus and the people who chose to follow Him, and it does do a good job at giving some historical context, for people like me who aren't really familiar with Jewish traditions and the time period, in particular.
I also want to add, that artists can be touched by the spirit, and create something out of a divine inspiration and a pure love for God. Their artwork is a gift and an expression of their faith and love and devotion, and sometimes that can be felt by others who look at the artwork. And think of how precious it is when your child draws a picture for you, even if it is not a perfect drawing, doesn't it still fill you with joy and you want to hang it on the fridge? As children of God, how does God feel about what we create out of love for Him?
Regarding The Chosen, I am very curious to know if the people working on the show were moved by the holy spirit while creating it, or if it is simply people writing a show with no inspired feeling behind it. I'm still trying to puzzle that out, myself. It is a shame if people are gaining their testimony through a TV show without building up a relationship with God outside of it, but if people realize the show is just a show, and seek to become closer to God once the show is long ended, then perhaps it isn't totally a bad thing.
We'll all gladly put the artistic interpretation of Jesus behind us once (and if we're blessed enough) to meet the real Jesus, one day. :)
@@NiaNook I think that Dallas, Jonathan and several others realy want to honor God by what they do. Saw several testemonies from them, and am realy convinced
@@danielcaulliez6572 they do and it is reflected in the work that they have produced.
@@annme7638 yes
I've been googling things that I either forgot or didn't know. For some reason I didn't realize Jewish people go to church on Saturday, so it's very thought provoking
The Chosen is a TV Show, just like Law and Order, Star Trek, etc. Don't think of it as anything else. They do not pretend to be anything more that a tv show that was made for the masses
The Chosen helped me (lost in New Age deception) come to Jesus the true living God. God can use ALL things for good ❤thank you Jesus
The 2nd commandment says to not make graven images to bow down and worship them, the reformed always seem to leave off the bow down and worship part, with the way they present the 2nd commandment that would make the Marlin caught on a deep sea fishing trip that was stuffed and mounted in the living room or office a sin, or how about the Beethoven Bust sitting on my Steinway Grand Piano .. suppose that’s sin too? No it’s to bow down and worship them. I’m reformed myself .. but the 2nd commandment is twisted by many reformed, and these days I’m seriously leaning more towards confessional Lutheran than reformed .. mainly for the balance I hear of law/gospel in preaching over reformed preaching, but also for the higher view of liturgy and sacraments. I still dig Theocast though overall 👍
As a Christian and really liked the Chosen series you guys are pretty spot on. I'm sure alot of people might not like what you guys are saying but I've experienced it myself, when you talked about the "white spaces" or sometimes when I've read the bible I've entered this mental image of characters from the Chosen into scripture to get an idea what they were like as I read.
I think its because the series (as far as bible shows) is so good, production wise. So far is just such a good show that its easy to get drawn to it because we want to be closer to Jesus his life and how he lived in the world that scripture don't fill all those "white spaces" and its more of an experience visually, that we are drawn to more than ink on pages.
Can it be a way to get people to Christ? or closer to Christ? Sure. But we just have to ultimately remind ourselves and others that it is just a show and never a replacement for a sound doctrine church teachings and fellowship and remember it's sculpture alone for our source of who Jesus is revealed to us and not adding any more.
Of course, I always think of Charlton Heston when you say Moses. Jesus and the deciples lived 2000 years ago, we don't know what they were really like but through film, those people can be more than just words on a page. The fact people have responded in such a positive way means alot
Which Christ....a fictitious showing ... ?
It's a show, not a movie. So yes, so there are some creative liberties taken to flesh out the time slots. That being said, there is a disclaimer in the beginning of the series that tells the viewers exactly this, and encourages them to read the bible for themselves.
When Jesus heals the blind woman and the man with the gimp leg in the series, for instance, this is not an account in the bible, however, we do KNOW that Jesus healed the blind and the lame. So the depiction, though not accurate to the detail, still helps us to visualize what some of those encounters might have been like regardless if they really happened or not.
As long as they are not blatantly deceiving the audience with things Jesus did not do, I really don't see the harm of giving a glimpse of some of the things he "might" have done.
The Pharisees were VERY overly fixed on superstitions and hyperbole, as well.
Matty, I understand your point, but this series does take the artistic license too far.
As they mentioned in this video, when Jesus's character says, "I am the law of Moses." And when he said to Nicodemus in an earlier episode, "What does your heart tell you?" When Peter's character calls John the Baptist "creepy John." Then there's the scene where Jesus is depicted as preparing and rehearsing for the Sermon on the Mount! The Bible never even hints to Jesus having to prepare that sermon. These are just a few examples, and they are not harmless.
It seems like 75 to 80% of The Chosen is fiction, and because of that, there's a substantial amount of the show that just isn't scripturally accurate. I see that as a problem.
As someone who has watched every single episode as soon as it comes out and has even gone to the theater to watch them, I can say I very much appreciate the points that you brought out, brothers.
We’ve been encouraged so far by the episodes, though some things have definitely been off.
The main thing that we have enjoyed is contemplating the humanity/deity of Jesus. The show clearly communicates that he is human, but it also clearly communicates that he is God.
But your concerns with it have definitely given me a reason to thing I have been a bit blind and not nearly as cautious as I should be.
The most intimate way to know Jesus is through His Word, prayer, and fasting.
No Mormon could ever tell me anything about Jesus. No one can know Jesus apart from the Holy Spirit.
In addition to not watching the Chosen, I've decided to NOT look at the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel (that's not really Adam up there), listen to Handel's "Messiah", or view any of Charlton Heston's movies again. Knowledge of God should ONLY derive from the written text of The Bible, and even the translations are corrupt. Following that course of action, we're left in a world without ANY knowledge of God.
This series was created outside of Hollywood so you were incorrect from almost the onset. And why are people bothered that the lead actor is Catholic, I started out in my youth as a Catholic and I am fine. It’s no big deal!
I'm a born Catholic too..what's the issue with the lead actor been a Catholic and practicing catholism? Also is it harmful to recite the holy rosary or promoting people the Holy rosary??? If anyone claiming to be Christian..looking down upon catholism and the holy rosary, i think there's a problem there because Satan doesn't like the rosary and he'll do anything to stop people touching it.
Catholicism believes in a works based salvation. It is contrary to what the Bible teaches. We are saved by grace, not by works. That is indeed good news!
Ephesians 2:8,9
Why would you talk about something you have not seen?
A friend muslim accepted christ while watching!
Why would you talk about something you have not reviewed first?
which Christ ...
The Chosen is great! Read the Word and never let ANYTHING else supersede the Word of God!
Soo... does everyone in the comments feel the same way about the Passion of the Christ and the numerous other Jesus represented films and shows? The Chosen takes liberties the same way that Steven Spielburg did when making Prince of Egypt. But there is always a disclaimer of it. It's not trying to say this is 100% exactly how it went but people trying to lift up christ and draw the world to him. The Chosen has definitely helped me in my walk and made me hunger more for Christ than I had felt in a long time.
The original goal as Dallas stated was to make a good show, not impact peoples lives. Jesus has been around everywhere so I never understood the 'Oh now I see Jesus' mindset of alot of fans. The Gospel is everywhere in a developed nation. Churches, TV, Film, Concerts, Bibles everywhere, what more help do people need! Our early persecuted ancestors did not have all this... how did they stay loyal! The Passion showed the truth of the crucifixtion. Jesus of Nazereth though it has some liberties, is at least mostly scripture on screen. The authentic Jesus has always been in Holy Writ. But i've come to conclude, much of the world, even in the church, prefer TV show Jesus, to Bible Jesus!
@@nycosplayernetworkcospodbe5265 make ***good Christian entertainment is what he means by that. I feel what you are saying totally takes it out of context. But that's just me
yeah ill keep away from it bcuz im just taking my walk with christ seriously and i dont want to end up idolizing a tv jesus instead of the real him so ill give it up and focus on reading the bible thanks for this perspective
Appreciate your choice to avoid The Chosen. The Chosen was clear that it was not an exact rendering of the Gospel's. The series help's Christian's visualize what it looked like during Jesus' day. The Chosen is not meant to be a replacement for Scripture. It is entertainment with a Christian leaning. In today's world that is a worthy achievement.
It's God's Word that is a totally different subject.
It must be the truth !
You can't add and make up your own stories to make the movie work.
The Chosen is not claiming to be a replacement for scriptures/the Bible. It is just a narrative story telling
The story of Jesus and his Disciples.
NO, TELLING THE DISTORTED STORY OF JESUS.
I appreciate you guys, this share along with so many of your others have filled holes and answered many nagging questions I've carried. Bless you from Jamaica
I think we are built to want to experience God in his fullness, and because of our human lack, our desperation and exhaustion, people will “buy oil” elsewhere. That alone makes you think of the wise and unwise virgins.
We live in the EVILEST of days this world has yet seen, it’s only going to get worse and very very soon.
We have nothing in this world of value except the gospel. If we have anything “right”, let it be the gospel.
God himself, came down wrapped in flesh, to fulfill the law, to become the spotless lamb, for the sins of the world.
Paying the debt for all sin eternally. He rose from the dead on third day justifying us in the eyes of God. Us, The ungodly.
God doesn’t want us to work, that part has already been done for 2,000 years,he just wants us to spend time with him, and it just so happens that when we do, we can look at the world, and the devil in the face, and smile….bc Jesus Chris IS King and he IS LORD OF LORDS, and his blood say that I’m HIS, and FOREVER WILL BE, and there’s NO THING IN ALL OF CREATION THAT WILL SEPARATE ME FROM THE LOVE OF GOD!!
Come Lord!! Do what YOU do LORD, and save, give life, redeem, restore, and brings us home to be with you while we wait out the storm…
Thank you Jesus for dying for such a wretch as me. Even though I don’t deserve your grace and mercy but I stand in it. Your grace is the only thing that inspires change in me. Your mercy and promise of eternity with you, is the only hope any of us have in this world.
And we thank you for it Lord Jesus.
Always follow the $$$$$$$$ chain.
I love The Chosen. People can watch what they want. If this series is leading people to read the bible, its a good thing! Absolutely love The Chosen!
The show could absolutely be leading people to read their Bibles. It's also leading people to sin, though, by creating idols, among other things. Paul says in Romans 6 that God's grace covers all our sins, but he also warns us not to abuse that grace by continuing to sin so God's grace abounds. Christians have the liberty to watch shows like The Chosen if they want, but only if they are mature in discernment and recognize that the show and the Jesus in it are works of fiction.
Exactly, these kinds of videos are stupid. Let people watch what they want. We finally get quality biblical storytelling that isn't cringeworthy, yet people still complain about it. It. Respect the maturity of people deciding to watch the show and then become interested in actual scripture. The creators, cast etc have always said time and time again that the show does not replace the Bible. They say time and time again to read the gospels. What the show is, is a dramatic retelling of events. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, and it has reached hundreds of millions of people. Instead of complaining, you would think that people would be happy about that. Yet here we are. Oh well.
If the show is leading ppl to read the Bible through the lens of what they saw from the show, then that's extremely far from being a good thing.
Christians who don’t read their Bible: this video is stupid!
Me: did you watch the video?
Christians who don’t read their Bible: NO, I read the title, that’s all I need!
Me: kinda like how you read your Bible.
It’s sad how many Christians are okay with a little poop in their pie. “It’s just a little off… not a lot off” reminds me of how Satan changed scripture just a little… not a lot. But yeah go ahead and keep watching things that are changed “just a little”…💁♂️🤦♂️
@@caomhan84 Exactly!!
Glad you mentioned the Quest for Illegitimate Religious Experience/Certainty. R. Scott Clark would be proud.
I'm not sure what that's about but I remember all the fuss over the passion, I didn't go see it and never will, I got a bad vibe from it but...the Chosen is different. I just discovered it about a month ago, watched the first episode and was captivated. It's not a Religious experience, it's the life of Jesus
@@terryowen6759 It’s the made up life of Jesus. The true life of Jesus is given to us in God’s Word. We are told not to add to or take away from it. Those instructions are given with a very stern warning……if you add to them plagues will be added to you, if you take away then your name will be taken from the Book of Life.
@@kathygrisham7064 that's Revelations, about the prophecy in the book of Revelations
@@terryowen6759 So you think it’s ok to make up stories about the inspired, holy Word of God?
@@kathygrisham7064 in reference to the Chosen series, they have used creative license to fill in what everyday life would have been like in conjunction with the stories in the Bible. Matthew and Mark aren't inspired words, they are written by the Disciples as witnesses to Jesus ministry. So, personally I have no issue with the Chosen creating or making up dialogue and stories to help tell the story as long as they don't change Jesus message
Scripture tells us that Jesus came, FULL of GRACE and TRUTH.
Yes, TRUTH...
NOT 'TALL AND ALTERED TALES' .
Thank you for putting to words what I was feeling in my spirit regarding this show!
I personally think there's a balance to everything. I never liked The Chosen because they constantly go away from God's word and completely make up things. On the other hand, we all influence each and inspire each other with our individual colors God gave to each of us, and we should. Jesus talked in parables and pictures. I understand that the second commandment means we should not bow down and worship images, like the golden calf for example. Last but not least, when you say we should only get feeding through the church, some might accuse you of not keeping the Sabbath in the commandments (not me, but I know of these accusations). So, all I can say is, we Christians need a lot of grace for each other and keep a good balance in everything. The main thing, of course, is to not wander away from scripture and change it...
Ok ! This is My last comment 😅
The people who is effected by this movie does not attend church., or a church where they don't receive any spiritual food.
I have enjoyed almost every episode of The Chosen, and I'll continue to watch it and enjoy it because it is made primarily for entertainment. Maybe some people have a hard time separating that from things they feel religious conviction over, but most of the arguments made against the chosen here can be said for anything. Why paint pictures of Jesus? Why do art of any kind? Why make music? If you can understand that the director is taking liberty in the telling of a story for entertainment purposes, then it's nothing to get bent over. It be a completely different story if they were saying this is how it really was. Or leading people away from reading the bible, or leading people away from Christ. No one can say they only look at Jesus without any presuppositions. If it isn't this show, or modern movies, it's the older movies. Everybody in America has seen Jesus represented in some way, shape or form, outside of scripture. I'd hope everyone is intelligent enough to know the distinction between what scripture reveals about Jesus, and how the modern world interprets it. So if you are going to call people to stop watching the chosen for all the reasons you stated here, then you mine as well tell people to stop supporting every Christian media.
Including UA-cam!!!
Yes. Our beloved media just spouts out all-suppressive versions of people's religious views and culture.
The word of Gd says : do not add to these...
On the other hand we are in dire need of video and audio versions of the original Message. A new generation is growing up who can no longer read (to interpret) because their brains work differently. That's why the multimedia form needs.
I mean this is actually kinda stupid especially when God used the show to bring lost souls closer to him and yet they tell people to stop watching it😂😭 I mean they do have a point but who on their right mind would even think that the "Chosen" is a replacement? Of course it's fictional! Even the director said that we should still Read the scripture and people who don't read it but only watch the show well that's their problem, but there are also those who read the scriptures and also enjoy the series.
By their reasoning, no one should listen to a preacher's sermon- which would be a replacement for reading the Bible? Jesus words are going to touch people no matter if they read them or hear them spoken
The Chosen was meant to entice people to know Christ more. They do not claim to be the authority on Jesus but they made it easier to reach people. The Director has good intentions to make the series free for everyone in every language. So far, it has reached people who far and wide and has encouraged people to dive deep in the scriptures.
Most people would not watch The Chosen if all the dialogue was selected word for word spoken by Jesus, Simon Peter, John the Baptist, Matthew, Martha, John, etc., as per the NIV English translation. People would say the series would be boring, i.e. the New Testament is boring.
Anything that attempts to draw folks to Christ...in any way unbiblical...is not okay, is unacceptable, is to be avoided. If you are adding to the Biblical account of Christ, you are inviting, exposing folks to a FALSE CHRIST.
Man is not good unless he is in Christ. If his intentions were aligned with Christ then I believe the show wouldn’t be as popular. Man’s good is our justification for our sin, while Christ’s good is from God.
This show presents an interesting theological discussion. My first and biggest objection with your arguments is that this show is not claiming to be the Gospel. It's very clearly designed to point people to the The Word of God. It's a visual depiction of the life of the apostles and of Christ. Which as a Christian, I believe there's no harm in for the most part. You both seem to have the idea that any depiction of Christ is the creation of a false idol, and if that is true then you are not okay with ANY medium that depicts Christ (The Passion, any paintings, statues, etc.) Any Christian should know that visual depictions of Christ through an art form is NOT an image that we WORSHIP ever. If you talk to Christian artists, you'll know that they are using their God-given talents to glorify God (which is a whole other discussion). The part that I agree with you on is the biblical accuracy. When creating a show about the life of Jesus it is important to be scripturally rock solid. In the case of the Chosen they have made some errors and that can distort the true image of Christ. Now should those errors negate the heart of the show entirely along with the cast, crew, and creators? I personally don't think so. It's a show created by humans and we should have grace for error and call it out. If it's not error but an intentional decision with ulterior motives, discernment and warning is necessary. You both made a lot of claims that were not discussed thoroughly enough.
I think the apparent and controversial issue with The Chosen is there is a clear, yet VERY subtle, underlying of ecumenicism, coexistence, and one world religion, which those who are Born Again are not to partake in. It is behind the scenes or behind the veil/curtain. Can we truly separate what seems to be "authentic" to some onscreen from the dangers behind the scenes? Jonathan Roumi, a devout Catholic and Knights of Templar, is heavily promoting the Hallow app and praying the Rosary and using his role to promote error to his fans and supporters who otherwise were not being led astray. What is more heartbreaking is he may be surrounded by protestants and evangelicals who are not sharing the truth with him. I have heard where people who may have been baptists are now praying the rosary due to following him. I am uncertain of the accuracy of that statement, but just knowing that his fans/supporters are partaking in erroneous doctrine unknowingly because this show is about "the authentic Jesus" is very concerning. Ephesians 5:6-11 says, "Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them. For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." We are to expose the error.
When I was watching The Chosen, I felt the Spirit of the Lord was allowing for me to discern certain things that just were not right or erroneous, but because I kept trying to focus on the "good," I dismissed what I otherwise would have attended to. As a result, I was personally conflicted and sometimes confused. However, the Lord continued to allow me to discern certain things that would not go away. I was one who admittedly struggled with seeing the actors' faces in my mind when I prayed. I felt confused when Dallas, who is a self proclaimed Protestant, was referring to his producer friends who are Mormons as "brothers" who believe in the same Jesus as he does thereby giving their religion and false doctrine CREDIBILITY. It was also noted in the introduction Scenes of Season 1 of The Chosen, Season 1, Ep 5: “The Wedding Gift” at the 2:40 minute mark the erroneous dialogue, "What are you going to do for your mother for this little TRANSGRESSION, huh?" Why intentionally use the word TRANSGRESSION, when we know Jesus never sinned?
The Word of God warns us about giving heed to seducing spirits. There are so many people with different beliefs involved with PRODUCING AND CREATING this show, i.e. Mormons, Catholics, Atheists, Buddhists, Muslims, etc. with literal doctrines of demons that contradicts the Word of God that it brings confusion. Granted Dallas Jenkins says he is a protestant or evangelical, and that he is not a Mormon or Catholic, YET he calls Mormons and Catholics his brothers thereby giving their false gospels equal standing with the one true gospel.
This could have been 2 minutes. “We’ve never seen a second of the show so we don’t have any basis to comment” end.
yeah i realized this show was iffy when i was crying too much like felt that the music and acting was manipulating my feelings
We’re not Muslims. We don’t need to be afraid of portraying our Lord in the medium of film any more than in the medium of painting or sculpture. We have the responsibility to make that work holy and honoring to God, and non-Christian’s will ignore that. But Jesus isn’t so removed from humanity that He can’t be portrayed by an actor.
thank you for that, seems obvious but thank you for remember that
the bible clearly states to have no graven images. that alone is enough to not watch
@@melissapoole8580 the verse actually says “you shall not make for yourself an image in any form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below” , that would mean we shouldn’t make images of anything, wouldn’t that mean we shouldn’t let children have toy animals, or dolls that look like people, maybe we should’ve photo of our family on the wall. The next verse says “you shall not bow down to them or worship them”, my point is it’s not so much the image thing but the bowing down to them. Nobody is bowing down to an actor who plays Jesus in tv show. So no hat is not a reason not to watch.
@@annme7638 read the second commandment.
@@melissapoole8580 what do you think I just quoted in my post?
I'm a hardcore Christian and I read the Bible daily and I can whole heartedly recommend you all to watch the Chosen!
It is a very hight quality TV show good for family entertainment! Many Christians are more comfortable watching worldly entertainment than entertainment based on God's Word. I can tell you that the creators of this show do a great job! It is highly recommended! 👍
I believe watching the choosen should leave a desire to go back to God's word
Portrayal of people, especially when we DON'T know the very intimate details of their lives, and giving them afflictions that are a manifestation of life today, is so reckless. Ex: Matthew had ADHD...
No he could not have because there were no vaccines then. We know ADHD and many other ailments are linked to vaccines. Duh!
My spirit knew from the beginning, this project was about spreading heresy. Mission accomplished.
The reason Christians will watch something that is completely not related to Christianity, is because we know where it's coming from, we know who it's coming from, we know their agenda. When they put doctrine shows out like this... this is the false teacher, wolves in sheep's clothing we have been warned about.
I think (which may be the whole reason God allowed the show, as well as this podcast, to make it to air...to think) you have to understand that creative liberties were used when watching The Chosen. I guess the danger is really with those who have not read scripture for themselves who automatically accept those creative liberties as gospel (excuse the pun). Really that should always be considered when viewing any religious-based content apart from actual biblical scripture. Same could be said of some tele-evangelists or Christian "motivational" leaders that speak without ever referencing scripture. In fact, we should always compare theological interpretations to what scripture says. I think The Chosen is effective in introducing people to Jesus but I would like to think that their mission is to encourage people to become more interested in pursuing a greater knowledge of Christ, fostering a personal relationship through scripture and ultimately belief and salvation. (Mark 9: 38-41)
In my case, no one told me to watch the Chosen, I just happened to see it about a month ago...I think it's wonderful. The Bible tells us to allow the Holy Spirit to guide us...while reading the Bible, praying and I'm going to say...in watching the Chosen. Just like the Bible, God will reach you if you listen and you will find a message in Jesus words, even if an actor says them
So sad that so many self proclaiming Christians would rather choose entertainment over God and his word.
The Chosen blasphemies God and goes against his actual word in so many ways.....taking out some important words that the real Jesus Christ said while diminishing his true character.
....and many self proclaiming Christians just eat it all up...no wonder Jesus Christ said that the very elect could be deceived by the antichrist! If it's this easy for these ppl whose a part of this show to deceive the elect it'd really be easy for the antichrist.... and it's no wonder Jesus Christ had said that the way to life is narrow and that he said in Matthew 7 that many will say "Lord, Lord..." proclaiming that they prophesied, cast out demons and done miracles in his name and he'll proclaim "I never knew you, be gone from me you who do iniquity".
So sad that many in America believe that they have to see a visual in order to help them have faith while thousands of our brothers and sisters died for Christ for over 2000 yrs without having any kind of visual of him what so ever! All they needed was his word to have faith....not some actor playing in a costume.
I get it...ppl can learn better in visual for I also liked the visual as well and I'm not saying that that is particularly wrong but why put the basis of your faith in a blasphemous tv show like this? Because the bible is "boring" and too hard to read so watching shows like this is easier? Maybe we shouldn't look for a visual for we wouldn't be much better then those who said to the real Jesus "show us....show us and we'll believe"
We are not doing God any favors by supporting things that's clearly against him! Compare what "The Chosen" say with God's word and you'll find that they are hardly truthful about God's word at all!
Did not Dallas Jenkins say his show is 95% inaccurate? And yet he wants to proclaim that he's showing an "authentic Jesus" and that he's sharing the gospel in truth. No sir you are not!
Many ppl praising Dallas and praising a tv show saying God is blessing it...who is "The Chosen's" mascot?.Satan....they got someone playing Satan to promote their show...oh yeah great choice!
The Spirit of God is the Spirit of Truth and he would never use deceit or lead someone to be deceiving in order to lead ppl to Jesus.
He speaks truth and truth only so how can Dallas and these ppl say they're doing as God says when their lying about his word??
Have you forgotten the warnings about false prophets and teachers that will lead ppl astray? And here you are allowing a show that leads you astray!
Romey sold pics of himself as Jesus and one woman told him that when she thinks of Jesus she thinks of Romey's image..... that's idolatry!
The real Jesus said to the man at the pool of Bethsaida "sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you." In the show they took that out...why?
When James and John asked Jesus if they should ask fire to come down and consume Samaria Jesus said "you don't know what spirit you are of."....in the show they took that out too.. why?
Sermon on the mount....Jesus did not need no help from a imperfect and sinful man....He Has The Spirit of God in Him! Jehovah told Jesus what to say! Why would Jesus ever ask Matthew his opinion???
Calling John the Baptist "crazy John" that's probably counted as blasphemy against the Holy Spirit considering that John was moved by The Holy Spirit.....in the show they even portray John to be a lil crazy.
Need I go on??
And many of you are ignoring what they're doing and your blindly following them and supporting them spreading lies!
Blind leading the blind and both will fall in the ditch.
Do Not get your doctrine or theology from a show! Quit being lazy and idle and pick up your own bibles!
Many (including today) have died for God's word and the truth and us Americans have put them all to shame by stomping on them with our slothfulness.
They died for the bible in countries where it's illegal to have it....here we have freedom to have it and we can't even take the time to read and meditate on it?
What are you going to do when the bible becomes illegal in USA? Don't think that'll happen? They're already trying to take our rights away bit by bit.. they'll make God's word illegal.....will you fight for truth then or will you cave?..... you'll fight for truth? Really? Your not doing it now!
If your going to put Truth aside for a blasphemous tv show that dishonors God what makes you think that you'll stand for truth when trials come?
Turn away from idols, laziness and this show and go back and read your bibles!
You don't need to see in order to believe! Martin Luther, and the reformers didn't risk their lives to give us our bibles for nothing. And God didn't have his words written down and preserved for nothing.
Can you please, do a video review on the chosen?? Just one episode??? Or half an episode???
Why are you so concerned with defending.... rebuttling all kinds of herecies out there!!!
Just preach the Gospel
And the only Few
Few
Few
Few
Very few who desire
The Truth
Will truly be set free
Preach the truth
The finished work
Only
When people are trully loved
They will start maturing
Loved not in the church
Not by peopple
But by Jesus
Then they will become trully free when the truth will set them free from all the garbage they believe in
Why you cant grow!? Because to understand what is 4 you must understand the problem 2+2=4
You must accept basics truths and understand them with your mind sole spirit
Only then new truths will be revealed after you have accepted the
"
Total forgiveness"
No more continual positional non sence
You must embrace
The Truth of the Bad news what happened in the garden? Why spiritual death rained from adam to moses on all humanity who have not
Sined like adam...
What were the two problems of sin and death
How Jesus has destroyed sin by his death and His resurection brough Eternal emortality of the Spiritual being into play
And how through forgiveness Jesus disrmed Satan from the weapon he held which wss the law,
How Jesus destroyed death by setting aside the power of sin sting to keep you being " in the flesh" how you are no longer Fleshly, you are not Dead- spiritually fead flesh
But you are the Image of heavenly as New adam the Quekening spirit so are his children are Made to be heavenly!
If you are stil in adam you are dead
If you are in Jesus
You have nothing to do with adams nature
No
More sinfull evil crucket decieving heart
You have an obidient new heart which is all ready to be loved fed by the spirit!
You have a new Spirit which is infused with Gods spirit..,,
You are totally new
If you only knew
Kept looking into the mirror of grace which reflects your new status new nature and you would stop allowing the world devil religion to point you to the LAW the whole Law everything that is written in the book of the law!!!
Not 10 written on stone as Letters that kill condemn show you who you trully are without Gods spirit, without Mercy love shown through Jesus...
Law killls
Every use of it first second third
Moral seremonial non of this thelogical non sence
Stop chery picking
God never allowed you to clesify and debate over what was fulfilled what is used to guide a believer
Grace has apeared that teaches Us
And when we accept
It
The morning star will shine bright and we are now are lead by the Spirit Truth of what has been finished done !!!
You two do not proclaim the whole truth
Because if you would
You would loose your jobs
Your status
Because if people trully learned the trurh of how Great Hyper Grace is , intentionally using the word hypoo which us used 4 times in NT
It is trully unbelieveble how Great grace is
It is so Great that what was before is nothing at all compared to the Glory that staid with us
2 corith 3
You will not preach whole truth
Because you have so much baggage
Theological stuff that overlays overlaps
That you will never be honest
Becauese your afraid that people will sin...
So what??
They who are trully are regenerate will eventually feel
So miserable in the emptiness of sins lies and fslse promises
But those few that embrace the truth
Willl be so trully free that they will
Rejoice
Enjoy
Proclaim
Testify
They will shout from the tops of the roof how Great His grace is....
Because everyone who preaches that you keep repenting get more repentence after you sin, because your stil a sinner then that is the license to sin
But when we embrace our new nature
Identity
We are freed from sin
From law
From guilt
From condemnation
Fear lies
Religion
And people who are trying to make a living of followers😣
Using The Chosen to elevate views? Without having even watched it? How noble and righteous. Thanks for the completely ignorant 'discernment'.
Scriptures say, "They have eyes that cannot see, and they have ears that cannot hear..."
It's not a question of impairment. It's a matter of one's intellectual development as one grows to maturity and having the liberty to make choices and decisions according to one's values-system or framework. The Lord God of all creation determines the ultimate outcome - He predestines according to His foreknowledge what the individual person will be. The Lord God is and always will be in control of all things and everything!
Is it like comparing another woman to your wife?
Instead of learning to love your wife as she is?
Thank you for this episode. I too haven’t watched the Chosen and I was never going to watch the Chosen for many of the same reasons outlined in this episode. I too have a concern for the 2CV’s in the show, plus I have never trusted movie producers to get Biblical stories right.
But you guys highlighted a reason I hadn’t considered and that’s the question what are you getting from the Chosen that you’re not already getting through the Means of Grace? Beautifully drawn out fellas! Amen!
These aren't Hollywood producers, they felt it was a mission to bring the life of Jesus to film. They followed their heart and the response by viewers is the same response Christians have when reading the scriptures. The love, compassion and miracles of Christ touch your soul.
If you haven’t watched, how do you have an opinion?
THEN, THEY SHOULD NOT BE DISTORTING THE BIBLE BY ADDING UNTRUTHS TO THEIR WORKS THROUGHOUT THE SEASONS. MUCH BIBLICAL
ALTERING/ADDING/CHANGING OF FACTS.
ANATHEMA... AS JESUS WOULD SAY.
I'm torn. I mean, it beats watching Dexter. Again. :/
And don't you ever read any of the thousands of great "fiction" books about Jesus life including Ben Hur, The Robe, etc. and million have begun their Jesus journey because of such books. Good grief, you guys would stop anyone from reading or writting about Jesus in a fiction setting. Judge not!
Ironic. We are being judged while being told not to judge. We are sorry if this is confusing. We are simply trying to be thoughtful with confusing and complicated issues.
You said it in the first lines, "MANIFEST" tation, meaning a man made production. I am not not here to bash religions of any source, but growing up in a Irish/ Catholic family, I didn't get the full gospel because of all the formalities of the church. When I left home and tried to find my own way I obviously got lost in the ways of the world. Then I went to a meeting in a Christian church, no denomination (southern Baptist, Methodist, etc) is where I found the gospel. I always had Jesus in my heart so it was Him who lead me to where I was supposed to be. Thank you Heavenly Father!❤
Did any of you ever watch the ten commandments with Charlton Heston? Who ever heard of a Nefertiti in the Bible? Just saying
Sorry guys. I'm an independent Hebrew Roots Gentile Christian, yet I am totally a fan of The Chosen. I'm also an art lover, and what I see is a beautiful portrayal of Yeshua painted by Jenkins, Roumie, the cast, the crew and the volunteer fans whose collective art, to me, is nothing short than an act of worship for anyone involved with the project. If that is so, how can I see it then as a violation of 2nd Commandment? (I would like to say to Mr. Moffat, "Does one judge a matter before you hear what the matter is?" You haven't seen it, yet judge? Hmph. Interesting. ) Can you remember what the word "gospel" meant, or have we forgotten that it means "good news" ? I've waited a long time to experience something that expresses a positive view of my God as nothing but a loving creator being, who cares about us so much as to become one of us, do all his marvelous works of healing and restoration he did, and yet suffer as he suffered for us. It's a show. It's art. Beautiful art, attractive art, art worthy of successful fishers of men who benefit the fish in the process by giving them such a vision as to want to know more about him, and not chase them away.
the show gives stories to our Spiritual ancestors with no proof. They were real people. Jesus does not look like jonathan. And for those willing, the Holy Spirit needs no help showing people Christ. In terms of a movie, Robert Powell in Jesus of Nazereth which was true art, speaks words off the pages of text, and unlike chosen is 95% Bible! But therein lies the problem. A show about Jesus full of scripture, and one with condiments of it. Mary of Magdela was not healed in a bar. Other scenes I've had new believers ask me where they are in the Bible, I had to tell them they are not there, They ended up being confused. Jesus said worship in Spirit and truth, not through a TV show. God has established THE WAY, to connect to Him, and its not thru TV. The Person hood of Jesus is out there everywhere so why folks acting like oh now they see Him. They heard and saw Bible Jesus, much different than chosen Jesus.
@@nycosplayernetworkcospodbe5265 Very true, however, they say at the very beginning it is ....a" SHOW" based on true stories....and that the locations , timelines, and backstories are altered for ARTISTIC IMAGINATION sake (basically artistic license)....and I agree. The viewer is encouraged TO READ THE SCRIPTURE FOR THEMSELVES. I generally go much further. (eg just about every contemporary mainstream Christian denomination produces a nativity scene, but Yeshua(/Jesus) wasn't born in a stable in reality. He was born in Bethlehem Ephrathah, one Roman mile east, according to Eusebius, where Migdal Eder, the tower of the flock, is located.) (And I would encourage you to check that out too.) My point being, it is all artistic expression, and not idolatry. Another beautiful show of Yeshua (His real name), was the movie "Risen" with Joe Fiennes and Cliff Curtis playing the role of Yeshua, like Roumie in The Chosen. Definitely not real, however it does convey the spirit of a God that loves us unconditionally, and in every scene they both play their role to get that point across to their audience. I don't know about you, but I am saved by grace alone, not by works, and to know that a loving God is with me, not 50,000 miles away when trouble raises it's ugly head, is very much a comfort to me. I'm sure others will see it the same way as well in these shows, and will encourage them look deeper into His life, and hopefully gain a relationship with Him, rather than having a thought they'll be rejected by Him, because that's not what He's about.
Thank you for this! Full of grace!
The Berean Call ministry has some thoughts on this topic, and a book called Showtime for the Sheep.
I have watched all seasons. Mr concern with The Chosen is how they put questionable words in the mouth of Jesus. Mingling the truth with fiction. Having Jesus act in ways that are not biblical. Every season I find myself questioning the message of The Chosen. And that is solely because I know scripture. Imagine someone who has never read the Bible! They are receiving a false doctrine.
Are you serious? I became a christian because the chosen.
I recommend reading the Bible and if it doesn't line up with the Holy Bible then throw thar part out & this is why when portraying Jesus life that one is accurate to the Bible it is dangerous and of it IS Biblical you cling to that💯
@@MichellesdesignsEtc already knew that. I didn't need anyone to tell me that The chosen is not the substitute of the bible
The Chosen was designed to tell the gospel story thru the eyes of the disciples. So they inherently ask a ton of questions about all aspects of the scriptures and their character traits to derive the script for the show. It was never meant to replace scripture in any way but to tell the gospel story in a different way. Asking all the questions does project into the story but I have not found any heretical theology in the script. Are they perfect - no. Are these guys perfect - no but I find no fault with them in making sure the gospel is not corrupted. But they and the chosen are trying to tell the gospel story to anyone who would consider the message of christ as lord and savior of their lives. I do support the chosen because I have seen lives changed from it to Yeshua ha Mashiach :)
Please stop being stupid, the bible tells us the gospel through the true followers of Jesus eyes, you people are idol worshipers and don't even know it or want to admit it, please don't let the pride of saving face keep you from the gift of saving grace
I have watched Season 1@2 a few times. And am looking forward to seeing season 3. I'm sorry if their are those out there that don't like it. This in my mind makes Jesus a human being as He was in the beginning of his ministry. Even after starting the healing and miracles He was still a human a man. Until He is Crucified, dies, and rises then ascended into Heaven. He was a Man. Regardless of the programs about Jesus, NOTHING is 100% there are scenes and content that's not exactly what the Bible says.
Why keep harping on this 'he's a man' proclaimation, as fans do, i cannot understand. In the Bible Jesus makes claims He enjoys eating and drinking! Does that not sound like a man? Scriptures reveal His humanity, but sorry His divinty saves, and all humanity needs to get use to the idea of bowing to Him. God does not place His divinity above His humanity. Jesus is before all!
Leave the alone and examine your intentions