Sources confirm another person was inside the house when the shots went off and killed a woman and her three adult daughters. CBS 2's Jermont Terry reports.
I can’t remember a crime of this magnitude - with details which seem so obvious - being handled with THIS degree of caution and kid gloves The SON reportedly SAW his FATHER slaughter his last victim. The FATHER all but ADMITTED it was an honor killing. Are we treading extra lightly due to sensitive demographics?
Absolutely! The Joliet shooters face and bio is all over the place. Why? Because he's a member of the designated bad people,not an Indian " gentleman". I've yet to see any pic of the " admitted" shooter. Why? We Black people are scapegoated constantly while others commit crimes everyday just like some of us do. Consequently, many Americans believe we're more criminal than everyone else.
Honor killing? The father said he did it because he was sick of being treated like shit. Typical domestic violence shooting case we see in other families.
C'mon folks, we ALL know this is an HONOR KILLING. We all also know who the surviving witness is.....that's right, his son. Absolute sickning!!!!!!!!!!
That’s true but countries like the US at least prosecute domestic abusers. I’m from the Middle East originally and lived most of my life there and there are no laws to protect children or women who are the most abused people there. It’s kinda seen as ok for parents to hit their kids and for a man to hit his wife. It’s seen as some sort of disciplining for women and females in particular and there are religious phrases that encourage this unfortunately. So it will never be really criminalised like in some countries. Some men even caused their wife’s permanent disability and never even got to spend a day in jail. One sad case that I know of, the man made his wife blind on purpose and nothing happened to him, another man keeps abusing his female children, starve them, cut their hair etc.. and no one did anything to him. Women weather wifes, daughters or sisters are just seen a property. The problem is that no one from there want to admit to that.
I am also middle eastern and I have known horrendous stories of abuse on both continents. Abusers almost always target women with little income, education, family, friends and from abusive backgrounds. People look the other way because they are afraid or they are abusive themselves. It is easier to live with your conscience if you can justify your inaction and blame the victim. I have met so many women in Illinois that can't seem to ever get free; mostly due to a system that is corrupt and money talks. In my experience the Arab social services community is dismissive and gives the men a pass because they pay the bills or have monetary influence. Attorneys are usually young and inexperienced and are easily swayed by hopes of prominence and recognition and want to curry favor within a legal community that is only moved by money.
An honor killing is the murder of an individual, either an outsider or a member of a family, by someone seeking to protect what they see as the dignity and honor of themselves or their family when they think that the individual has violated the reputation. According to Shahid Khan, a professor at the Aga Khan University in Pakistan: "Women are considered the property of the males in their family irrespective of their class, ethnic, or religious group. The owner of the property has the right to decide its fate. The concept of ownership has turned women into a commodity which can be exchanged, bought and sold". In such cultures, women are not allowed to take control over their bodies and sexuality: these are the property of the males of the family, the father (and other male relatives) who must ensure virginity until marriage; and then the husband to whom his wife's sexuality is subordinated-a woman must not undermine the ownership rights of her guardian by engaging in premarital sex or adultery.
It’s domestic violence the girls want go out with mom for breakfast to celebrate her birthday then he didn’t let them then it got worse between them. He is over controlling he never let the mother drive or go somewhere by her self that’s what the family said.
@@kevincourtney7312STOP STOP YOUR IGNORANCE & ISLAMOPHOBIA HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM HOW MANY CATHOLIC & JEWISH WOMEN ARE KILLED EVERYDAY IT’S DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BY NARCISSISTIC ANGRY SELFISH HUMAN BEINGS VIOLENCE & HATE HAVE NO RELIGION MY CONDOLENCES TO ALL THE VICTIMS
The witness is probably one of the brothers. From some other news station there was 2 brothers and 3 sisters. My deepest condolences to their families and friends.
Those peaceful Muslims aren’t heard on the news DAILY killing each other like the typical Americans do and you have the nerve to insult them???? Yeah you’re a typical bigot painting a whole faith with a brush of one crime that happens very very rarely. Oh you people will be ignorant and one sided and prejudice til the day you die.
You don't have to say who it was we know it was the husband of the woman and the farther to the three females but if that was anybody else you'll be dragging for him so why not say who they were
Why hasn't the suspect in custody been named? Today a suspect.has been named in the horrific shooting of 7 people in Joile. A call to 911 from the house, a male, the 2 male brother's are alive. Unfortunately there are Muslims who believe in honor killings (not all Muslims) & this case that may be the case. If honor killing is the reason I hope prosecution looks at the serious issue. Honor crimes in the UK have been reported in the last ten years.
I always wonder why they called them honor killings, what is the honor in killing your 15 year old daughter who don't want to marriedn an old ass gron man? The UK in other countries talking about women's rights while these things are happening in their country but the police in the UK are quicker to act on other stuff but seems to me that they're uncomfortable dealing these things.
Why is it nobody in the Muslim community are saying nothing in regards to this is not an honor killing, not one man or one woman ? Nobody finds that strange ? 🤔
Seems pretty obvious that the unknown person in the house was one of the sons. (By the way, to all the people casually describing this as an "honor killing" don't know the definition of "honor killing" and would benefit from doing some research into the phenomenon.)
@@michelep6300 it's something seen in Arab and Muslim countries. it's the killing of female relatives by male relatives to regain "family honor" after the female committed some grievous sin like sex before marriage, refusing to marry a suitor approved by the family, becoming westernized, infidelity, ect.
Misogynist and anger, he left his son alive.
I can’t remember a crime of this magnitude - with details which seem so obvious - being handled with THIS degree of caution and kid gloves
The SON reportedly SAW his FATHER slaughter his last victim.
The FATHER all but ADMITTED it was an honor killing.
Are we treading extra lightly due to sensitive demographics?
Yes they are. Another protected class.
Father said it was due to him retiring and constant arguing in house over finances, haven’t read it was honor killing anywhere else.
Absolutely! The Joliet shooters face and bio is all over the place. Why? Because he's a member of the designated bad people,not an Indian " gentleman". I've yet to see any pic of the " admitted" shooter. Why? We Black people are scapegoated constantly while others commit crimes everyday just like some of us do. Consequently, many Americans believe we're more criminal than everyone else.
The father never admitted about honor.
Honor killing? The father said he did it because he was sick of being treated like shit. Typical domestic violence shooting case we see in other families.
We live in a sick sick world
Especially without god.
@@TheGrayton2000god is the reason why people believe in crazy things
My condolences to the family and friends of the victims.
C'mon folks, we ALL know this is an HONOR KILLING. We all also know who the surviving witness is.....that's right, his son. Absolute sickning!!!!!!!!!!
What do you call Chris Watts, Scott Peterson, Robert Blake and countless others murders?
@@mysteriousjz They are all sick f*cks. 😡
@@mysteriousjzpathetic "men" . Does that negate the fact that this was probably an honor killing? No.
You and the 20 people who agree with you might want to look up the definition of "honor killing" so you don't come off as idiots.
@@betsyj59 interesting how the pictures they showed of the girls they weren't wearing a hijab....
Strange the 2 wearing hajib are not truly pictured.
Domestic violence is not unique to one race or religion
Amen
Seriously! All these brainless trolls on the comment. Domestic violence happen literally all the time in the U.S. or outside the U.S.!
That’s true but countries like the US at least prosecute domestic abusers. I’m from the Middle East originally and lived most of my life there and there are no laws to protect children or women who are the most abused people there. It’s kinda seen as ok for parents to hit their kids and for a man to hit his wife. It’s seen as some sort of disciplining for women and females in particular and there are religious phrases that encourage this unfortunately. So it will never be really criminalised like in some countries. Some men even caused their wife’s permanent disability and never even got to spend a day in jail. One sad case that I know of, the man made his wife blind on purpose and nothing happened to him, another man keeps abusing his female children, starve them, cut their hair etc.. and no one did anything to him. Women weather wifes, daughters or sisters are just seen a property. The problem is that no one from there want to admit to that.
I am also middle eastern and I have known horrendous stories of abuse on both continents. Abusers almost always target women with little income, education, family, friends and from abusive backgrounds. People look the other way because they are afraid or they are abusive themselves. It is easier to live with your conscience if you can justify your inaction and blame the victim. I have met so many women in Illinois that can't seem to ever get free; mostly due to a system that is corrupt and money talks. In my experience the Arab social services community is dismissive and gives the men a pass because they pay the bills or have monetary influence. Attorneys are usually young and inexperienced and are easily swayed by hopes of prominence and recognition and want to curry favor within a legal community that is only moved by money.
This wasn’t really that
An honor killing is the murder of an individual, either an outsider or a member of a family, by someone seeking to protect what they see as the dignity and honor of themselves or their family when they think that the individual has violated the reputation. According to Shahid Khan, a professor at the Aga Khan University in Pakistan: "Women are considered the property of the males in their family irrespective of their class, ethnic, or religious group. The owner of the property has the right to decide its fate. The concept of ownership has turned women into a commodity which can be exchanged, bought and sold". In such cultures, women are not allowed to take control over their bodies and sexuality: these are the property of the males of the family, the father (and other male relatives) who must ensure virginity until marriage; and then the husband to whom his wife's sexuality is subordinated-a woman must not undermine the ownership rights of her guardian by engaging in premarital sex or adultery.
Thats not what happened. Stop spreading lies
Rest in peace to those beautiful women just searching for freedom!
It’s domestic violence the girls want go out with mom for breakfast to celebrate her birthday then he didn’t let them then it got worse between them. He is over controlling he never let the mother drive or go somewhere by her self that’s what the family said.
@@AhlamSoliman-jw2dq so… they BASICALLY wanted the freedom to go eat… BASICALLY… I was correct.
@@maescreativespace444 he didn’t say you were incorrect he was just giving you the details jeez
@@AhlamSoliman-jw2dqIt's an Islamic thing. Mom and her daughters didn't want the arranged marriages dad was planning.
@@kevincourtney7312STOP STOP YOUR IGNORANCE & ISLAMOPHOBIA HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM
HOW MANY CATHOLIC & JEWISH WOMEN ARE KILLED EVERYDAY
IT’S DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BY NARCISSISTIC ANGRY SELFISH HUMAN BEINGS
VIOLENCE & HATE HAVE NO RELIGION
MY CONDOLENCES TO ALL THE VICTIMS
My money's on the husband/father being "the man" in custody.
The witness is probably one of the brothers. From some other news station there was 2 brothers and 3 sisters. My deepest condolences to their families and friends.
His the brothers
Honor killings? All cultures are not equal!
What’s your culture?
Abortion killings. All cultures are not equal.....
My god so sad such beautiful life's taken by their husband and father who is supposed to give his life to protect his wife and daughter's
He obviously wasn't getting the respect he felt he deserved. It happens more than you would think.
It’s the girls father. 😢
Horrible, if true.
😳😢
@@user-md5ls2jo1l Don’t worry,it’s not
This heartbreaking and sad Rip 💔🙏
It's those peaceful Muslims again? More of how they treat women?
Yes your so on point!!!!
Oh like peaceful white Americans who wants women to not have autonomy over their own bodies by making it a religious and political issue?
Americans have shows exclusively about murderers and serial killers but you want to attack an entire religion.
💯 exactly
Those peaceful Muslims aren’t heard on the news DAILY killing each other like the typical Americans do and you have the nerve to insult them???? Yeah you’re a typical bigot painting a whole faith with a brush of one crime that happens very very rarely. Oh you people will be ignorant and one sided and prejudice til the day you die.
Barbaric.
Maybe is honor killing for the sake of Allah, this is crazy!
What does that mean?
Was it peaceful though?
Mostly
Very .....
This is beyond sad wtf
Would like to know the identity of the man that's in custody.
It's the father/husband.
Homeland has to cover up this story. Nothing to bring negative attention to Arabs.
@@fishmonger6879it has nothing to do with homeland. It’s their culture. Have you seen the destruction of the protesters in the US? Do your research.
@@faithyates7826I meant DHS The Department Of Homeland Security. What are you talking about “destruction of the protesters?
Yep, Muz-lums..@@fishmonger6879
You don't have to say who it was we know it was the husband of the woman and the farther to the three females but if that was anybody else you'll be dragging for him so why not say who they were
It is as the Son
They're brother
This is too sad 😢
The dad did it and the brother witnessed.
The 19year old brother was in the house.
I hope the killer has a valid FOID card , cause that will be another charge
What is that?
He murdered 3 women who gives a shit about a gun charge what are you talking about
@@fanzarelli1319he killed 4 women his wife and 3 daughters
Why hasn't the suspect in custody been named? Today a suspect.has been named in the horrific shooting of 7 people in Joile.
A call to 911 from the house, a male, the 2 male brother's are alive. Unfortunately there are Muslims who believe in honor killings (not all Muslims) & this case that may be the case. If honor killing is the reason I hope prosecution looks at the serious issue. Honor crimes in the UK have been reported in the last ten years.
I always wonder why they called them honor killings, what is the honor in killing your 15 year old daughter who don't want to marriedn an old ass gron man? The UK in other countries talking about women's rights while these things are happening in their country but the police in the UK are quicker to act on other stuff but seems to me that they're uncomfortable dealing these things.
They don't name them when they know the public will come to a certain conclusion.
What do you call countless other murders of women by their "partners?" Only bad when some groups do it?
Study the Middle East cultures.. @@mysteriousjz
Do you know what an "honor killing" is? You might want to look up the definition.
Sad what’s happening to Illinois since the pandemic
Yep, but this was a certain middle eastern culture.. sad and sickening.
Everybody out here playing God, they're all going to 💩 themselves when they finally get to meet him.
Yep! And He won't be happy when he opens the Book of life and reviews their sins and atrocities.
Honor killing??
Rest Peace So Sad News Lord
son will be messed up to some degree after this crime
Their funerals were today🙏
🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
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yes, these folks assimilated quite well didn't they.
Yeah, Chris Watts, Scott Peterson, Robert Blake..... they all should have assimilated so it wouldn't have happened?
Not the dad. 😮
RIP 🕯🕯🕯🕯
its one of those allah things......
He forgot to do himself, Allah is definitely disappointed. Rip to those 4 women
Why is it nobody in the Muslim community are saying nothing in regards to this is not an honor killing, not one man or one woman ? Nobody finds that strange ? 🤔
@@lydiablake-simon7555
After someone from Christian community says about Chris Watts and Scot Peterson
Maybe he said that because we all know how much Muslim men value respect, and appreciate their women .
@@lydiablake-simon7555
Yeah they don't have their wives and mothers sleeping around with multiple men, their 14 year old girls "dating".......
In the name of the almighty Allah
Seems pretty obvious that the unknown person in the house was one of the sons. (By the way, to all the people casually describing this as an "honor killing" don't know the definition of "honor killing" and would benefit from doing some research into the phenomenon.)
Perhaps you’d be good enough to enlighten us…?
@@michelep6300 it's something seen in Arab and Muslim countries. it's the killing of female relatives by male relatives to regain "family honor" after the female committed some grievous sin like sex before marriage, refusing to marry a suitor approved by the family, becoming westernized, infidelity, ect.
Well now that we’ve all been enlightened, it seems you do not know what an honor killing is @betsyj59 .
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Grim
Just here for the racists comments 😅😅😅😅😅😅.
Tool 🙄
Albert Lahlah 🐷
A DI DA PHAT!!!
Apparently, the wife instigated a fight, demanding more money… more money…. more money. Strange that it would lead to this.
This is Amerikkk you won't be disappointed 😢😢
It’s an “honor killing” prolly due to pending divorce