The Smallest and Lightest Prime Z lens... Who is it for?
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- Опубліковано 27 лют 2023
- Did we really need this lens when we have the great 28mm f2.8 already?
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Informative and helpful. Thanks.
That was a useful comparison, thank you.
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You are a class act. Warm thoughts from my family to yours.
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I have both of them , 28mm is amazing, 26mm is good for size but the autofocus is noisy but the size is perfect for travel,I love 28mm more , thank you so much for this nice comparison
They are trying something new and also gaining more experience for their factory’s in Thailand. I wish it was just one 28 pancake but hey, we just got an 85 1.2 and Z8
Contemplating this for a Z f walkabout lens that can be dropped into a pocket in a pinch as a slightly jumbo sized x100 style setup
I am glad you did this review. I now know I'm not crazy.
Would you consider making a video quality comparison of those two vs an 24-70 f4 or similar?
My usual tiny prime for the past 45 years that is always in the camera bag can be replaced by it. As well, it will replace the (Z9) body cap too to make the camera always has a lens on it and ready to shoot right out of the bag. Also, I have no issue with the 26mm focal length since I skipped buying the Z 28 but the Z 40. Of course, the availability of both the lens and fund for it are the major concern at this time. 🙂
As far as buying it to shoot with, given its higher price and lower performance... NO, unless one requires a pancake lens.
Nice vid. Thank you for that. Very interesting.
Another interesting thing is the timing of this release. It seems Nikon is planning to declare significant new product/s soon. Would one be an entry or mid level, street and fun body? Maybe... Or not. It's all speculations. We'll just need to be patient.
Thanks for the review. I'm buying the 26 mm after watching this. It's far superior and better for my Z fc!
For me the 26mm is the perfect APSC street shooting prime. With a perfect 39mm FF equivalence. Small sharp and great focal length for street.
Given that I don't have Nikon (actually I have my brother's D50 and D7100) but Panasonic and Fuji. I have Panasonic's pancakes used on the GH series. Their use is above all in the street (especially with the GX9) and on the gimbal by DJI, Manfrotto, Moza, Zhiyun and on drones due to its small size and weight which facilitate stability.
This lens is for me sir. Street photography fanatic. I preordered it and hope to get it by the end of the week. I have the 28mm and 40mm as well and still bought it. Not sure it will supplant the 28mm yet as that is a fine lens but can't wait to try it out. Thanks for the video sir.
Great to hear from a user. You must love 26mm to buy it in addition to the 28mm!
I am also street photo fanatic but I'd never shoot street wider than 35mm. It really depends if you do it in small village, town or big city. My main street lens is 85mm and 100-400 when in the city. 26mm sounds terrible but that's the perks of photography, lol
@dicekolev5360 in the old days (80 ties, b/w HP5 Ilford film at 800 iso) I did 90 % of my streets with my 24 mm. Sometimes people were 1 - 3 meters away from me but they didn't care. Nowadays that is a no go I think.
In germany, the Nikkor Z 26 mm 1:2,8 is 589€ (including taxes). The Nikkor Z 28 mm 1:2,8 is currently available for 230€, so less than half the price. I was ready for 100€ more, but more than twice the price for such a easy design is just way off.
Oh wtf, I was actually expecting this to be the same price or cheaper than the 28mm. Puts a bit of a damper on my plans to finally grab a Z body... even though this is nearly the exact lens I've been waiting for.
@@dieketarre so, better build quality and a much more difficult design from a size perspective and you figure it will be the same price as the cheap lens?
@@dieketarreTTartisan AF 32mm f2.8 (full frame) or the TTartisan AF 27mm f2.8 (APSC)
We need this in SE design
Well the 26 is sharper, smaller but somewhat noiser and bokeh sligthly more nervous. Overall it is for me ... even if the price is such that for the 26 i could get the 28 and 40, that gives a moment of reflection.
We asked for pancakes Nikon gave us compacts that rejected our syrup and butter. They have corrected this mistake with a true pancake when Prince would approve of this lens.
Would be good on the new Zf. Wondering how the 28mm compares with the 28-75 zoom. Thanks for the comparison, not much in it between them. BTW you have lost a ton of weight, looking much healthier 👏🇦🇺
26mm deals with shadows better, has smoother contrast, has smoother color transitions and is really soft/easy on the colors themselves out of camera, producing more pleasing colors out of the box, leaving you with less stuff to deal with in post. I don't shoot with wide angle lenses but I do try all the new lenses and if I were to buy a 20-30mm lens, it would be the Z 24mm over both the Z 26mm and 28mm.
the 24mm 1.8 is a completely different beast than the 26mm. Only because it's close to the focal length doesn't make it similar. For some people, size does matter.
I picked the 40mm over the 50mm due to it being noticeably smaller. I will go on 6-8 hour hikes with my camera and weight matters. Because of that I was looking forward to the 26mm as an easily stored backup lens when I want something wider than 40mm. If it goes on sale I will probably still pick it up, but I was hoping it would be lighter and closer to the 28mm in price.
Well, necessary? No! But nice to have? Yes! Is it the right time when there are other possible gap fillers in the lineup? No! I initially thought it was a DX lens which got me excited, but when I learned it was FX I scratched my head! In any case, I'm all in for a permanent lens cap with lens built-in that allows you to just grab you camera when go out on a casual shoot. A rather expensive cap!
I own the Nikon 40mm f/2 Z lens and it fast and sharp! For under $300 it's a bargain!
I am trying to figure out how this is any more niche than a $14k 6.5lb fixed length telephoto lens that we apparently needed. The new 26mm is probably the lens more people wanted for street or travel with an ultra compact form factor and weather resistance. There is still a place for the 28 as a nice budget option, but I will probably sell mine when I get the 26.
Fair enough. Note that the z26 and 28 are equally weather sealed.
@@mattgranger good to know…I didn’t see anything on B&H about the 28 being weather resistant. FWIW I do agree there are still gaps that are frustrating in the lineup after all this time. They took way too long getting to the 1.2’s for professional portraiture. It is crazy that the new 85 is only just now coming.
This is the worlds first ever and only full frame mirrorless pancake lens with AF. Its kinda crazy it took a manufacturer this long to make one.
What about the canon 40mm?
@@mattgranger There is only a 35/1.8 and 50/1.8. And neither are pancakes. There are no RF pancakes.
How about 14-30mm f4 close focus, better than these small prime and how about the 24-70 and 24-120, will their autofocus noise will caught on on camera mic? Seem like the 14-30 is better as everyday lens
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It seems like a pancake for the Z-fc users. I already own the 28mm, so I won't be swapping. But if I were buying that as a brand new kit today (i.e., with a discount to bring the price difference for body+28mm vs. body+26mm within $100-150), then yeah.
did i just hear dust and weather sealed?
This video convinced me more than even before that the 26 probably didn’t need to exist. Like many, I already bought the 28 and love it. I don’t see enough justification to sell it and buy the 26, and I don’t see a reason to own both.
Ok. It didn't need to exist because YOU have a 28. What was nikon thinking? Doug already has the 28. Wonder what else Doug has in his collection so Nikon can determine what to release next.🤔
@@reggiehil don’t take comments so personally, brah
Thanks for the video review Matt! This 26mm lens is way overdue. This should have been released Year One to promote the compact feature of Z line. I have the 28mm and 40mm. I also bought a Fuji X100V before the 28mm lens and 40 mm lens. The Fuji meets my needs at a 35mm equivalent view and it fits in a jacket pocket. So Fuji received my money and Nikon missed out…for now. I’m not planning to get the 26mm lens right away. I’ll be in the “wait-n-see” mode for 1-2 years. Looking forward to the next video! 😃👍🏼
The X100V is a wonderful camera in so many ways in addition to the small size and weight. 35mm is the sweet spot, the built in ND filter and the leaf shutter are often overlooked by ILC users. No wonder it’s always on back order.
The 26/2.8 is weather sealed as opposed to the 28mm, if that matters to anyone
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You did not address the one and only problem I have with the 28mm, the chromatic aberration in contrasty situations. Otherwise, that lens was perfect for me, sharp at f/4 and lightweight.
So business like these days. It's good! Very efficient
It's a bit pricey if compared to the 28 indeed, but since I have the 28 I can wait. Wouldn't be surprised if it gets some decent discount at one point.
Really would like this on the z30, together with the kit zoom. Perfect combo at home in my office bag which I carry all times. However, there's a DX 24 on the roadmap, slightly larger, but perhaps a bit faster (1.8?) and cheaper, too.
Where it really would shine is on a z3 kind of camera, a z30 with FF sensor.
Yes, I like to have all those options, and might end up with all 3 at one point.
I hope there will be more of it, one even wider (18-20mm), one longer (60-90mm), compact, 2.8 or 3.5.
Yes, there are other lenses which perhaps more people would like to have seen prioritized, but then perhaps this has to do with what they can currently manufacture more easily and what not.
Agree - shame to drop so much cash on a full frame lens to use on crop too
@@mattgranger - yes and no. Yes, in a sense that the upcoming Dx lens will likely be cheaper and at 36mm f1.8 (perhaps ?) more suitable on a z30 body or the other Dx bodies than this 26 as a 39mm f2.8 on Dx.
However, the Fx lens goes on both Fx and Dx bodies. However, what's really missing in my opinion for this 26er is a body to shine on - a Fx version on the z30. I would love such a 'z3', then that little 26er on it!
Perhaps in a year or two, once Nikon has redone the z50/z6/7 to III and launched a z8 and a z70. I can wait, no problem.
I am also waiting for the dx 24 for my Z30. What a pity that this 26mm pancake is f2.8 instead of f2... It would have been much more useful otherwise
Will this let a full frame camera and lens fit in a jeans pocket? Thanks
ummm, if you wear 90s era hip hop jeans maybe haha :)
Nikkor 28mm f2.8 AIS for me. No need to mess with "Perfection" 🙃
In Sweden the price difference is 280 % for the new lens. The 28 mm is 2500 SEK and the 26 mm is 7000 SEK.
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that is a Sweden problem
@@harvey6864 its kinda the Same in Germany. 250 € (2500 SEK) for the 28mm and 580 € (5800 SEK) for the 26mm
which is better the 28mm or the 24-70 F4?
Which is better Tarzan in the jungle or an E Type Jaguar ?
not frustrated at all. nikkors can come out as slow as they want. its the third party lens schedule that frustrates me. altho sigma has 3 native z' lenses coming its not for full frame. sigh.
I bought 26mm, already owning the 28mm SE. I am waiting to get it. I see this lens residing on my Zfc/Z6 versus a cap. I think the 28 f2.8 Z is a lovely lens, and will not be getting rid…heck, I still have my 28mm f2, f2.8 and f2.8 pancake ai lenses which I still use with my F film cameras on the regular. Part of why I like the 26mm is its very close to 40mm on my Zfc. Basically a pancake normal lens. To me, if you are on a budget, absolutely makes no sense to buy 26 over 28. But if, like me, you love owning lenses that give different results, its too fun to pass up!
Exactly the same thing for me. This was made for the Zfc to have a 40 mm 2.8 lens that is tiny. I would not use this one of a FF camera. Really applaud Nikon to give us Z fc shooters this gem.
Yeah, it does seem like a niche release. Personally, I would have much rather seen it the size of the lens plus the included hood/filter thread accessory with fully internal focus and a quieter focusing motor rather than this. Getting it as small as possible doesn't seem worth those compromises. I also would have rather seen the 28mm with a metal mount and a touch better optical quality rather than splitting features like they did. I have the 28 and it's fine, but would have paid a bit more for a better version of that lens to start.
Since neither lens is a macro lens, I'd think someone would us AOV as their deciding criteria. For myself I use a 24mm prime instead of the 28mm.
What I don't get is why is it 26mm; it should have been 24mm then it would be a even better fit for the aps-c at 36mm equivalent.
To mimic the most used, most comfortable for most, focal length in the world: your phone’s main lens
I believe Nikon missed the mark, this lens should have been a 23mm f/2 lens, which would have been an absolute hit for street photographers coupled with a cropped sensor Z body (35mm FF equivalent).
Purchasing the 28mm and 40mm used would equal the price of this lens.
I don’t get the pricing of the lens at all.
Maybe if they were able to get it to be a F/2 with VR?
I don’t see the need for this lens at all. And the autofocus noise is very bad.
Oh yeaa CAT LOVER
It’s from a wild cat rescue charity in Namibia
Prime Lens is more expensive than the Zoom Lens. I also used Nikon camera for still Photography in Tropical conditions until I dropped it by accident. But It works fine and I am still using this wonderful monster.
For the frustration part, I can understand, but I think that Nikon will be releasing another body perhaps in the next month or so, and if it is in fact our "Z8" we have been hoping for, it's possible the 200-600 (which has also been long awaited) will be released around the same time, as both seem to sort of go together in some respects. It is rumored the 200-600 (if it is in fact that, and not something like a 100-500 or 200-500) is not going to be the typical S-lens (so possibly a variable aperture and cheaper build possibly but with "decent" optics) and the Z8 will be somewhat of a watered down Z9 so two pieces for the higher-end enthusiast market. I think Nikon also realizes that the Z II's are not quite viewed as prime-time sports cameras and so they decided to wait. The pro shooters are likely just going with the fast long telephoto primes (the 400's, the 600 and/or the 800 -- and are likely shooting a Z9) so they likely won't be as interested in the 200-600 or a Z8. But I think once Nikon does release the "Z8" or something similar, and the 200-600, then they'll circle back on things like the 24mm DX Z and a few other things (perhaps a 70-200 f/4, although there are rumors of a 70-180 2.8 to go with the 17-28 and 28-75 lenses, although again, that might be similar to what Tamron already has for the Sony E mount). But anyway, I feel that we have some good things coming this year from Nikon... one, possibly two bodies, and a long telephoto zoom. We already got the 85 1.2 and we might even see a 35 1.2 I believe as well (hopefully, although I won't buy one). Plus there were further rumors of even a 135 1.8 Z lens too. So I think if people can be a bit more patient, good things will come. I think Nikon has changed their attitutde towards product releases and are in most cases, going more with a "well through out, but perhaps less frequent" releases. And they're clumping releases together instead of doing them individually, like releasing the 85 1.2 and 26 pancake at the same time, versus separately. I suspect a Z8 (and even a high-end "Z80" and the 200-600 will be released relatively close to eachother as well since they likely will go together).
This may come as a surprise, but not all lenses have the same develop time.
I agree, and there are probably many factors involved with which lens has finished development, including glass type, element shapes, and actual designer.
I got the 28mm f2.8. If nikon release a 24mm f2.8 pancake I will switch.
I completely forgot about the 28 mm. I would say that the 26 mm was not necessary at this point in time.
Not really I will have preferred a 105mm 1.4 I say 1.4 because the 1.2 are super expensive and nonsensically big. One will tell that they are old Sigma Lenses and that people's preferences have not changed since those olden days.
Given the price of the 28mm, the 26mm is just too expensive.
This is ultra-portable general purpose lens. 28mm was a try but unsuccessful. This lens would shine if there would be body like Sony a7c. I need ultraportable camera and viewfinder is one thing I am willing to give up.
Z30
This lens (26) was pointless. They could've just made the 28mm more of a pro lens from the start.
Bonus usage the 28mm on the Z7 in crop mode for video is crazy good...
nikon has 24s and 35s, skipped the 28s
Not necessary at all in my opinion and apart from a metal mount the 26mm has no benefit and is nearly double the price.
Is it risky to buy grey import if something goes wrong Sony U.K. don’t fix it they have their own engineers. But you save a lot.
That price pff…26mm
you can buy a S line for that.
Maybe I'm the minority, I would love Nikon to double its thickness to achieve f2/f1.8 instead of sacrifice aperture for size
With $500 price tag it's DOA. A few people who want to pay that much for such low spec lens already got the lens shipped. I'm sure, Nikon will keep discounting this lens all the way to $300 before they get a positive response from the market.
Haha you have zero facts and just wild speculations. It's the internet 🤣
NO!! (with an echo!)
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It was ONLY made because of the vast, vast, vast number of people complaining that the Z line wasn't serious because it didn't have a true pancake lens. Why they wanted it? I have no idea aside from it being the current fad.
😂what is this? Why?
Inspired by a certain song.
Nikon's pancake, huh, yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing.
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Let me say it like this, if the 26mm came out instead of another more crucial lens (for example a 70-200mm f4), then I would be frustrated. But that's not how it works, fortunately :)
I have been considering the 28mm, but not sure whether I wanted a 24mm instead and then a 35mm to complement it. I also wanted something compact, so with the 26mm being that wider, I feel I can better defend getting a 35mm as well :)