The Myth Of Capitalist Peace

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  • @SecondThought
    @SecondThought  Рік тому +306

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    • @tedcrilly46
      @tedcrilly46 Рік тому +2

      Thank you for the great videos, I find them informative.
      I should say though, as a fan of history channels such as 'historymarche' or 'Kings and Generals', for Europeans it wasn't *always* just a matter of plunder. There were rivals throughout time, threatening to invade, such as the Ottomans, Huns, Mongols, Caliphates. A lot of the time it was kill and plunder or be killed and plundered.
      Although Im well acquainted with the plundery history of Europes empires too. One neighbor in particular, which shall remain un-named ...
      Lets just say, Jolly good video old boy, tally ho guv'nor.

    • @1imag337
      @1imag337 Рік тому +1

      I love propaganda!!!

    • @raghuvarv
      @raghuvarv Рік тому +4

      Haven't been receiving notifications for your videos for a while now. Or the notification comes days after upload. UA-cam is being a selective b*itch when it comes to left wing content.

    • @makisekurisu4674
      @makisekurisu4674 Рік тому

      so please explain why soviets attacked Afganistan?
      They were communist or socialists and non imperialism. Yet it still happened.
      It seems like both socialist and capitalists have this one thing in common. They love to kill to get influence and power.

    • @WEAPONX4S
      @WEAPONX4S Рік тому

      Looks like the river path in Austin.

  • @ALCvideoprofile
    @ALCvideoprofile Рік тому +1529

    "War is bad for business"
    Unless your business is selling weapons and war machines to the highest bidder.

    • @beratnabodhi
      @beratnabodhi Рік тому +93

      "War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope.
      "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service, and during that period I spent most of my time as a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism."
      ~ Major General Smedley Darlington-Butler U.S. Marine Corp

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz Рік тому +98

      The real money is in selling to both sides. Sell version 1 to side A, tell side B, then sell version 2 to side B. Repeat ad nauseam for fun and profit.

    • @rachelhyatt5766
      @rachelhyatt5766 Рік тому +19

      so for example Lockhead Martain

    • @RicAdbur
      @RicAdbur Рік тому +16

      Or if you're a Ferengi.

    • @YTPartyTonight
      @YTPartyTonight Рік тому +16

      +/Or you’re in the business of politics, you’re a lawyer, a landlord or a cop-just a few examples in a sea of examples.

  • @beratnabodhi
    @beratnabodhi Рік тому +1682

    "War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope.
    "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service, and during that period I spent most of my time as a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism."
    ~ Major General Smedley Darlington-Butler U.S. Marine Corp

    • @dannymcguire3623
      @dannymcguire3623 Рік тому +50

      Yup. It’s a great book.

    • @bobeeman9730
      @bobeeman9730 Рік тому +66

      The last chapter I feel would solve a lot of problems in the US. But we just don't have it in us to be a good example.

    • @mrickerd
      @mrickerd Рік тому +18

      Corps, and he also received Two Medals of Honor during his service.

    • @jer103
      @jer103 Рік тому +29

      Well, in hindsight, you realize what you were truly fighting for.

    • @cadicamo8720
      @cadicamo8720 Рік тому +5

      Prowar putinists who NEVER criticise Russian fascism war of aggression LOVE to repeat that "war is racket".

  • @devinfaux6987
    @devinfaux6987 Рік тому +1490

    If capital feels threatened, it attacks the perceived threat.
    If it does not feel threatened, it expands.
    If it cannot expand, it cannibalizes itself.
    All three of these manifest as some of the most brutal violence mankind has ever experienced.

    • @benijager1372
      @benijager1372 Рік тому

      Aktyualy! the nozis called themselves NAZIONAL SOCIALIST YOU KNOW WHO IS NOT SOCIALIST?! THAT'S RIGHT, 'MURICA AND ISRAEL THE CHOSEN RACE

    • @eggbruh8163
      @eggbruh8163 Рік тому +33

      Im using this

    • @TheZombieButler
      @TheZombieButler Рік тому +19

      I am also using this.

    • @nocantry
      @nocantry Рік тому +14

      This will also be used by I.

    • @chinobiii
      @chinobiii Рік тому +7

      BASED.

  • @davidringmann3395
    @davidringmann3395 Рік тому +827

    Pure Capitalism is the reason why Hawaii is a US State instead of its own country. Pro-American, capitalist businessmen overthrew the Hawaiian Queen and her Government and set the stage for Hawaii to be annexed by the US. Actually would be an interesting topic for an upcoming video.

    • @newagain9964
      @newagain9964 Рік тому +158

      Capitalism (race based economics) is also why many native Hawaiians are poor, but yet the “expats” there aren’t.

    • @DefenderOfLogic
      @DefenderOfLogic Рік тому +25

      Wow! Never heard of that. Would be a great topic to cover next.

    • @ColonizerChan
      @ColonizerChan Рік тому +12

      Normally I say it's been done to death, but the more the merrier

    • @mk-oc7mt
      @mk-oc7mt Рік тому +71

      After visiting Hawaii I realized the degree to which it feels like a separate nation under colonial occupation

    • @theperson4yearsago565
      @theperson4yearsago565 Рік тому

      Not tru

  • @AnemoiaGuy
    @AnemoiaGuy Рік тому +2395

    Ahh. My weekly dose of anti capitalism content

    • @WanderingExistence
      @WanderingExistence Рік тому +143

      You only consume anti-capitalism on a weekly basis? You got to slip in some normie professor Wolff, wacky Zizek throughout the week too!

    • @fghjkas5098
      @fghjkas5098 Рік тому +60

      bi-weekly now (for quality)

    • @reggie69.
      @reggie69. Рік тому +25

      ​@Wandering Existence Michael parenti! The best I don't understand how wolff came to the conclusion that the former socialist countries were state capitalist or zizek being always for nato imperialism and against former socialisms

    • @WanderingExistence
      @WanderingExistence Рік тому +14

      @@reggie69. Zizek often refers to conceding to Fukuyama that capitalism has been successful in its ubiquitous predominance, but he jokingly reminds us that some of the best managers of capital were the "Communists". There was no real workers control of the means of production, it was top-down bureaucracy like a capitalist corporation but with the powers of the state. That's what state capitalism is.
      How can you blame Zizek for not being super fond of going to the store and asking if "Is this the store that has no butter?", and being told "No we are the store that has no meat, the store that has no butter is across the street".

    • @jnmedina8989
      @jnmedina8989 Рік тому +13

      @@WanderingExistence Idk about blaming Zizek for any of that but I will blame him for his very upfront racism.

  • @raminatox
    @raminatox Рік тому +476

    Rule of Acquisition 34: War is good for business.
    Rule of Acquisition 35: Peace is good for business.

    • @TheBigCola0
      @TheBigCola0 Рік тому +96

      so that's what rule 34 means

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz Рік тому +22

      Business figures out how to make a profit no matter what the conditions.

    • @thelinktothegame6081
      @thelinktothegame6081 Рік тому +30

      Rule 36 do war say it’s peace get double profit

    • @mossydog2385
      @mossydog2385 Рік тому +7

      "Thought is the enemy of action"
      "Action is the enemy of thought"

    • @mksmike
      @mksmike Рік тому +4

      @@CarFreeSegnitz Tell that to oil companies and arms manufacturers...

  • @jamesaydelotte6269
    @jamesaydelotte6269 Рік тому +631

    gotta love how capitalism turns every aspect of life into a market/ commodity.

    • @Octoberfurst
      @Octoberfurst Рік тому +91

      Yep, capitalism can't exist without turning EVERYTHING into a commodity. It is all about profit!

    • @newagain9964
      @newagain9964 Рік тому +92

      Which is why it has no incentive to solve economic problems and social ills.

    • @tonywalters7298
      @tonywalters7298 Рік тому +85

      @@newagain9964 and if you criticize the harms of capitalism, people just call you entitled and lazy

    • @evilds3261
      @evilds3261 Рік тому +7

      My time and energy is a commodity others must purchase or else it will not be sold to them. I determine the price because I am the supplier.

    • @evilds3261
      @evilds3261 Рік тому +4

      @@steveweast475 I only want to be of assistance in a position that will appreciate and value me. A place where demand for what I have to offer is high and supply for it is low so that I can make a difference.

  • @SkySong6161
    @SkySong6161 Рік тому +250

    The thing that capitalistic peace assumes, weirdly enough, is that "the economy" being damaged is what will hinder it. We have plenty of evidence in the US right now that the economy is *bad* actually, but since the stock market and profits are doing fine, everything must be dandy. As if people aren't starving in the streets or going homeless or unwilling to start families because they can't afford to. (Nearly every woman I know is grateful she doesn't have children because if she made the mistake of doing it a few years ago she'd be financially crippled and homeless now.)
    Capitalism is explicitly about having economic systems controlled by a echelon of wealthy families and banks. It's where the name *comes from.* People who wind up in that position or inherit it never have (or did not for long) care about the conditions that war would inflict on the populace as a whole. The costs of war are not borne evenly across a country, nationality, or corporation, and those that start the wars are almost never those who bear the burden of them.
    Lets not for a second pretend that these sociopaths won't start wars or reintroduce child labor, or organ harvesting from the living (yes really, look it up), or inflict any number of horrific things on multiple populaces so long as it makes the profit number go up.

    • @DoctorBabylon
      @DoctorBabylon Рік тому +27

      Your comment deserves way more likes, unfortunately I could only give you one.

    • @nightfall3605
      @nightfall3605 Рік тому +34

      Some states are already loosening restrictions on child labor! Pushed mainly by a restaurant lobby, age restrictions for certain types of work in food sectors as well as construction are eliminated plus expanding work hours during school weeks!

    • @redfiend8746
      @redfiend8746 Рік тому +16

      10 year olds working unpaid labor in Louisiana.

    • @krejados1
      @krejados1 Рік тому

      @@nightfall3605 Overall, it's driven by anti-immigration sentiment. Wisconsin is sending kids into meat packing plants to do the work undocumented immigrants formerly did.

    • @whyplaypiano2844
      @whyplaypiano2844 Рік тому +11

      @@redfiend8746 I'd get the place of work shut down by releasing thousands of cockroaches into the facility.

  • @kaseywahl
    @kaseywahl Рік тому +182

    "War is profitable and peace actively sucks butt." --Marcus Aurelius

    • @owfan4134
      @owfan4134 Рік тому

      Marcus was an enlightenment liberal stan for corporate interests BEFORE it was cool.

    • @tatiana4050
      @tatiana4050 Рік тому +10

      You can't buy a yacht with humans.

    • @xanderjames8682
      @xanderjames8682 Рік тому +8

      bellum prodest et pax strenue sucit asino- in his native words

    • @whyplaypiano2844
      @whyplaypiano2844 Рік тому +4

      @@tatiana4050 No, but you can buy a kidney with 'em.

    • @djriqky9581
      @djriqky9581 Рік тому +2

      ​@@tatiana4050 labor literally builds everything.... So yeah with a bunch humans you can get a yacht....

  • @carbide4458
    @carbide4458 Рік тому +144

    As for politicians who are pro war, I'm going to quote Jon Stewart: "You don't support the troops, you support the war machine."

    • @DissidentB
      @DissidentB Рік тому

      Sad to see that he too now supports the war machine, now that it's no longer US troops but Ukrainian ones who we must "support" getting killed by the thousands for US economic and geopolitical interests

  • @WanderingExistence
    @WanderingExistence Рік тому +62

    "There are three kinds of violence. The first, mother of all the others, is institutional violence, that which legalizes and perpetuates domination, oppression and exploitation, that which crushes and laminates millions of men in its silent and well-oiled wheels. The second is revolutionary violence, which arises from the desire to abolish the first. The third is repressive violence, the object of which is to stifle the second by making itself the auxiliary and the accomplice of the first violence, that which engenders all the others. There is no worse hypocrisy to call violence only the second, while pretending to forget the first, which gives birth to it, and the third which kills it." - Dom Helder Camara.

  • @irenedong3235
    @irenedong3235 Рік тому +256

    I just took my AP World History exam today, so this video is making me realize just how obvious the violence inherent to capitalism is. We spent months learning about how Europe colonized the New World and then Africa and Asia for profit, and how obvious it was that their ‘civilizing mission’ was just empty justification for killing people to gain wealth and power, but the teacher and the course never made the final crucial and very obvious step of connecting it to what capitalism does today. I know not everyone’s taken a college level history course and the school I go to is a privileged exception, but most people do learn about the history of colonialism, right? It’s such a simple and obvious conclusion to draw when you’ve got the basic facts, but we avoid it at all cost. I’m also just realizing how much we glossed over any American participation in colonialism. We went over US intervention in Latin American in the 1900s, but we also made sure to talk about how very much bad and evil the USSR and China were. Those were some very frustrating lessons to sit through. Anyways, thank you for making this video! The production quality and information are both great.

    • @aycc-nbh7289
      @aycc-nbh7289 Рік тому +7

      There is also violence inherent in other systems, as well as colonialist legacies.

    • @np8252
      @np8252 Рік тому

      Probably because conquest of the new world took place under a mercantilist economic system.

    • @MiyuwiTV
      @MiyuwiTV Рік тому

      yes

    • @Riolupai
      @Riolupai Рік тому

      Remind me of this comment so that i may do apwh

    • @nicholasgallanis7539
      @nicholasgallanis7539 Рік тому +12

      In some US states there are recent (between 2020-2023) laws that dictate slavery shall be taught in school as a "relocation event" & that POC simply worked the fields, like it was just a job people did.

  • @thecatsbackyard4833
    @thecatsbackyard4833 Рік тому +356

    Top level writing. JT's writing team could do novels.

    • @tempejkl
      @tempejkl Рік тому +16

      the JT Thought Manifesto!

  • @sagu1lar
    @sagu1lar Рік тому +84

    "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, humanity will know peace."
    - Jimmi Hendrix -

  • @sstarklite2181
    @sstarklite2181 Рік тому +23

    “Cops beat you up for being poor” So true!

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Рік тому +33

    The sarcasm in this video's intro was thick enough to be cut with a knife.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Рік тому +151

    "It's never just one quick war"
    The way this was put calls to mind addicts justifying small doses of their substance of choice to hold them over while they're recovering from their addictions.

  • @beratnabodhi
    @beratnabodhi Рік тому +46

    Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.

    • @Anmeteor9663
      @Anmeteor9663 Рік тому +4

      Did you see him repressing me, did you?

    • @waltonsmith7210
      @waltonsmith7210 Рік тому +1

      Lmao. I love how true that is and also how ridiculous

  • @8Robba
    @8Robba Рік тому +38

    We have to coordinate and build parallel structures of power based on solidarity and empathy in order to slowly make the existing structures obsolete.

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz Рік тому +9

      A proposed housing co-op in my area aims to offer community bonds. They have long term plans to keep rents steady or at least below market rates. Once their construction debt is paid off, and community bonds paid, they want to fund further housing co-ops. So instead of rents lining landlords’ pockets it will build more affordable housing.

    • @Mortablunt
      @Mortablunt Рік тому

      Yeah, I’m not living with ungrateful, lazy druggies who don’t pitch in to keep the lights on or maintain the place.

  • @96javo53
    @96javo53 Рік тому +16

    "Free trade" is often enforced at gunpoint.

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz Рік тому

      Shades of the British-Chinese Opium Wars. China is going to want its pound of Western flesh for its Century of Humiliation.

  • @chriswilliams8159
    @chriswilliams8159 Рік тому +24

    I think the idea is fairly straight. In an outdated economic system like capitalism, human welfare, global peace and cooperation and never ending profit margins for businesses simply CAN NOT coexist. One has to be prioritised over the other, not just for the sake of human beings, but for the planet as well.

  • @NotKnafo
    @NotKnafo Рік тому +14

    i remember that meme:
    war: * starts *
    military industrial complex: business is booming

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz Рік тому

      Business if booming, exploding and rocketing. They’re making a killing in war times.

  • @RedYellowBird6889
    @RedYellowBird6889 Рік тому +272

    Ahhh, capitalism, the system that never ceases to amaze me on how brutal and inhumane it is on one side while been mundane and downright boring on the other.
    Truly, the sign of a "humane" and "logical" system.

    • @thiccupcake
      @thiccupcake Рік тому +2

      Like communism would be any different

    • @joeyj6808
      @joeyj6808 Рік тому

      Want a real lesson in capitalism? Read about the two Opium Wars. Britain defending the right to addict the whole population of China at the point if their cannon.

    • @thiccupcake
      @thiccupcake Рік тому +6

      @@steveweast475 Yes social democracy and it's not gonna happen anytime soon. especially in the usa

    • @thiccupcake
      @thiccupcake Рік тому +6

      @@realgabrielflandes Then either go grow some potatoes in the field or stick to american capitalism

    • @pauhull
      @pauhull Рік тому

      Yeah capitalism is so brutal that it resulted in the death of 200 million people. Oh wait that was socialism

  • @gaymare6236
    @gaymare6236 Рік тому +28

    All I'd find necessary to debunk capitalist peace is point out the correlation between economy and military spending.
    It's not a coincidence that the biggest economy is also the biggest military spender

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz Рік тому +5

      I’m pretty sure America owes much of its wealth to its arms dealership. The US is the biggest global arms dealer by a country mile.

    • @d00der41
      @d00der41 Рік тому +3

      Or rather the economic boom during and after every military conflict.

    • @ThomasNoname
      @ThomasNoname Рік тому +1

      I don't honestly thing our modern system is capitalism, it's corporatism. A real capitalistic society doesn't have banks and corporations getting bailed out by the Guvernement, and so easy to crate monopolies.

  • @matteste
    @matteste Рік тому +26

    This really brings to mind games such as Metal Gear Revengence. While the main villain was definitely wrong with his methods and ideology, he was not wrong about how war really was just another business and needed to be rooted out.

    • @ultimatehamsandwich734
      @ultimatehamsandwich734 3 місяці тому

      To bad we will never know who really wrote that. Cause after all, he doesnt write his own speeches.

  • @esar96
    @esar96 Рік тому +21

    Second thought and Boy boy shitting on war in the same week. Sign me up

  • @user-em6ie2be7x
    @user-em6ie2be7x Рік тому +245

    Thanks for always exposing The Inequalities between White Men, Women, & People of Color. As a Black man I really appreciate that. 🙇🏿‍♂️

    • @fishingsouthwestflorida1586
      @fishingsouthwestflorida1586 Рік тому +14

      As an alien I concur

    • @edwardlegend1564
      @edwardlegend1564 Рік тому +9

      there are alot of inequalities haven't been exposed yet

    • @mrmeow2297
      @mrmeow2297 Рік тому

      I don't like this vilification of white men. Not to mention, not all people of color or women are victims. Plenty of them abuse the system like everyone else.

    • @letsomethingshine
      @letsomethingshine Рік тому

      @@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 I wouldn't trust current Republicans and their voters with even a quarter of power over the government socialism. NEVER EVER. Plus they would purposefully seek to destroy it, especially if it seems to be working. China's population has quadrupled even with "one-child policy" and Cuba's population has doubled which is equal to the USA (except I'm not sure how many Cubans were killed in illegitimate wars, suicide, drug-abuse, violent crime due to desperation, etc).

    • @codacreator6162
      @codacreator6162 Рік тому

      White people are turning on White people, too. We’re in a Class war, so inclusion really only extends to the Haves and Have Nots (except on the Far Right, where everyone is an enemy).

  • @littlepotato2741
    @littlepotato2741 Рік тому +29

    Perhaps capitalism does add a cost to starting war, but that cost is usually limited to a subset of the population and often, people in power find a way around it. Coups to install "business friendly" leaders is a very common thing in the US's history. If I remember correctly, the US has been involved in eight to ten coups in Africa in just the last twenty years. When I was in the US Navy in the late 90's, we were bombing Iraq well before the "needed intervention" to "bring democracy" to Iraq.

    • @bramvanduijn8086
      @bramvanduijn8086 Рік тому +4

      I'd go so far as saying that war always hurts the economy but when you look at the details the ones who started the war always profit. Economists do this a lot: Look at some abstracted number and ignore the details.

    • @waltonsmith7210
      @waltonsmith7210 Рік тому +2

      Amazing how people can ignore common sense and basic observations for greed and ideology.

    • @ZealothPL
      @ZealothPL Рік тому +2

      The costs always find their way to the least able to bear them who have no power to actually stop the war. I'm really sure Lockheed Martin's executives deeply care about disabled homeless veterans from middle of nowhere in Ohio /s

  • @raveun2thejoy
    @raveun2thejoy Рік тому +312

    Capitalism is a hunger pain that will never go away.

    • @hellNo116
      @hellNo116 Рік тому +78

      capitalism will fall. the only question is, will it be by the will of the people or by the extinction of human race. that is for us to decide.

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz Рік тому +7

      *greed. Capitalism is the method de jour. If socialism took over an elite cadre would find a way to subvert it for their own greed.

    • @WanderingExistence
      @WanderingExistence Рік тому

      We hunger for stability but capitalism is a system that's constantly in crisis, one bust after another.

    • @raveun2thejoy
      @raveun2thejoy Рік тому +29

      @@CarFreeSegnitz Yes but one could contend that capitalism is more so the economic philosophy of greed as compared to socialism.

    • @Skoopyghost
      @Skoopyghost Рік тому +7

      Many years ago I saw a Penn and Teller episode where they said that free trade led to world peace, and there was also and an climate change denier episode of Penn and Teller. When you build a time machine. Allow me to slap my younger stupid self for liking Penn and Teller.

  • @aerobique
    @aerobique Рік тому +12

    the key is, "competition" = *conflict*
    meaning, capitalism is the glorification &cultivation of conflict.
    it is a system-level disorder, sort of a conflict neuroses.

    • @coolioso808
      @coolioso808 7 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely. A system disorder that is only cured by a new, viable system emerging that uses co-operation, collaboration and co-ownership as its strength to create localized abundance and prosperity. One community at a time. Because we can't dictate and change the whole world at once. However, once a few strong towns get going and set the example and share the template, we can all be off and running in a better direction, faster than probably many people think.
      Check out One Small Town Contributionism and see what you think.

  • @FirestormMk3
    @FirestormMk3 Рік тому +4

    It is true that Rule of Acquisition 35 is "Peace is good for business." But don't forget it's preceded by Rule of Acquisition 34: "War is good for business."

  • @tomseiple3280
    @tomseiple3280 Рік тому +74

    Grim material aside - your production value, writing, and range has vastly improved in the past 12 months JT. Your editing, filming, and composition just keep getting better and better!

  • @verafleck
    @verafleck Рік тому +20

    Ferengi is a good role model for capitalistic behaviour.

    • @definitlynotbenlente7671
      @definitlynotbenlente7671 Рік тому +3

      Rule of aqusition 35 "Peace is good for business."
      Rule 36 "War is good for business."

  • @Arsenic71
    @Arsenic71 Рік тому +6

    The expression "military-industrial complex" is a pretty fitting description.

  • @OneInTheMosh
    @OneInTheMosh Рік тому +19

    Damn, I guess I can't just treat Second Thought like a podcast anymore - these visuals are too damn preem!

  • @AgronomUR
    @AgronomUR Рік тому +26

    Я не разумею английский, но мой пролетарский лайк с вами, товарищи!✊

    • @xanderjames8682
      @xanderjames8682 Рік тому +1

      щоб зменшити дефіцит, тому витрати зростають, а машина продовжує обертатися, але чому ми це допускаємо

  • @austinwald2731
    @austinwald2731 Рік тому +17

    I found it so weird learning that liberal means capitalist in Europe. Lol because the market is "free".

    • @reinodeforaminia8322
      @reinodeforaminia8322 Рік тому

      I think it is weird how in America being anti-sistem is being socialist while in Europe is the contrary

    • @austinwald2731
      @austinwald2731 Рік тому

      @@reinodeforaminia8322 Everything is backwards in Europe lol

    • @reinodeforaminia8322
      @reinodeforaminia8322 Рік тому +6

      @@austinwald2731 I could say the same for America xD

  • @d1c3b3nt2
    @d1c3b3nt2 Рік тому +8

    The question is not whether capitalism is the best system for a society based on consumerism and the sole aim to earn money in one's life - because capitalism is the best system for that. The question is whether we want that.

  • @scottdavenport551
    @scottdavenport551 Рік тому +5

    For additional reading I recommend War is a Racket by Smedley D. Butler. A soldier from the late 1800 and early 1900 talking about his first hand experiences being used to clear the way for capitalist enterprises.

  • @milkdrinker7
    @milkdrinker7 Рік тому +8

    "When the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years passed, and my brother and I discovered the new second thought..."

    • @nightfall3605
      @nightfall3605 Рік тому +2

      💨 🌪️
      😂😂😂😂

    • @xanderjames8682
      @xanderjames8682 Рік тому +3

      Socialism, capitalism, neoliberalism, fascism only jt the master of all 4 political spectrums yada yada

  • @DMFTexTex
    @DMFTexTex Рік тому +8

    My argument is that capitalism is nothing more than feudalism boosted by imperialism. This makes war a core part of substaining capitalism, as it's essential to imperialism.

    • @aycc-nbh7289
      @aycc-nbh7289 Рік тому +1

      So what alternative system do you propose?

    • @TreeHairedGingerAle
      @TreeHairedGingerAle Рік тому +6

      ​@@aycc-nbh7289 A system based on comfortable sustainability for all, rather than constant profit growth for an extreme few.

    • @aycc-nbh7289
      @aycc-nbh7289 Рік тому +1

      @@TreeHairedGingerAle So how would that be achieved?

    • @demonslayereren3970
      @demonslayereren3970 Рік тому +6

      capitalism is when the merchants replaced nobles

    • @Ryanisalive
      @Ryanisalive 8 місяців тому +1

      @@TreeHairedGingerAle Hence Socialism

  • @bigcrazewolf
    @bigcrazewolf Рік тому +340

    One day capitalism will fall 👍✊

    • @raveun2thejoy
      @raveun2thejoy Рік тому +54

      You probably will be alive for it.

    • @italorossid
      @italorossid Рік тому +31

      @@raveun2thejoy thank you for the affirmation.

    • @LifeInJambles
      @LifeInJambles Рік тому +45

      @@TheRatsintheWalls Could be. Given the historical emphasis of socialist projects on providing housing and harm reduction immediately after establishment, it might not suck as bad as expected though. A lot of the historical suck had to do with the fallout from wars and the encroachment of capitalist world powers so.... we'll see.

    • @FunnyAnimatorJimTV
      @FunnyAnimatorJimTV Рік тому +2

      But how?

    • @raveun2thejoy
      @raveun2thejoy Рік тому +19

      @@FunnyAnimatorJimTV Because integrity/doing things for the greater good of survival comes into conflict with capitalism, and because capitalists will never be satisfied with the profits of yesteryear.
      Hoarding the essentials from people whilst charging more over time for the relinquishing of them is just not a feasible mix.

  • @rarecandy3445
    @rarecandy3445 Рік тому +10

    i think WW2 should definitely have been mentioned for the even more extreme radicalization of european colonialism. hitler was highly influenced by german colonialism and the US model of manifest destiny, viewing eastern europe as the american west.

  • @Ge1Ri4
    @Ge1Ri4 Рік тому +9

    According to The Rules of Acquisition, Rule # 34 clearly states that "War is good for business", and Rule # 35 clearly states that "Peace is good for business". Glad we could get that settled for both the Raytheon/Northrop Grummon community as well as the Blackstone/Vanguard community.

  • @taylordavison6849
    @taylordavison6849 Рік тому +21

    The good thing, though, is eventually everything in capitalism will achieve a sort of metaphorical entropy. It should never reach that point because no one should ever experience abject poverty, but the upper class can only consume so much before that formerly profitable desperation turns violent and people will ultimately eat the rich. It's going to arrive at a boiling point where people who originally gathered arms against the government instead turn those arms against corporations. The Rwandan Genocide saw a similar class struggle that resulted in a pogrom where the lower class gathered up arms and set out to collect heads. It should never get to that point because violence should never be an answer, I know, but violence is an answer precisely because sometimes violence is the only thing people understand. We're already seeing companies trying to backpedal, but I'm afraid it's already too late. The desperation is boiling over and the working class is getting tired of being left with nothing.

    • @wren_.
      @wren_. 11 місяців тому +1

      I have a feeling it’s going to happen by around 2029. at least in America, that is. I say America because it’s very influential right now, and a revolution there might trigger others around the world. Plus, it’s good to put a hard date on things instead of in some nebulous future timeline

  • @jakebauer3244
    @jakebauer3244 Рік тому +20

    2nd Thought really is the best. Such a good communicator of these complex ideas.

  • @Skip6235
    @Skip6235 Рік тому +34

    Ah yes, when I think of “Anti-War” I think “George W Bush” 😅

    • @Mortablunt
      @Mortablunt Рік тому

      If this channel gets much more intellectually dishonest, it’s host could be scouted to be hired to work for Fox News

  • @xikes
    @xikes Рік тому +4

    This is so strikingly similar to how a cancer disease works.
    It consumes and expands until nothing is left and the host dies.

  • @aaronhawkins6938
    @aaronhawkins6938 Рік тому +40

    Yes, capitalism must always avoid the overaccumulation problem. It always leads to expansion to make the same level of profits and that expansion always needs more raw resources. Love this page. You really get it.

    • @Makofueled
      @Makofueled Рік тому

      Mmm good point to read up on for me. Thanks!

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz Рік тому +1

      Solvable with the tool that capitalism claims to hate: progressive taxation. Why bother accumulating beyond the highest tax bracket if you’re required to hand almost all of it to the government? In the 1950s the top marginal income tax bracket, >$200K was 91%. An aggressive annual wealth tax would cut off an obvious loophole.

    • @epicgamer-hf4jb
      @epicgamer-hf4jb Рік тому +8

      @@CarFreeSegnitz you say this as if there is currently any need to accumulate 200B in wealth rather than ‘just’ 150B. Progressive taxes wouldn’t solve the inherent contradictions of capitalism.

    • @mk-oc7mt
      @mk-oc7mt Рік тому +4

      @@epicgamer-hf4jb perfect rebuttal. Capitalism will continue to grasp even harder for horizons of commodifying new enclosures for greater profits under progressive taxation.

    • @beast_pasta2392
      @beast_pasta2392 Рік тому +1

      ​@@epicgamer-hf4jb Yes I agree, whilst the wealthy should absolutely be paying more tax, this proposal still doesn't overcome the deeper problem that is embedded in the system. We can still be trying to lessen the negative effects of capitalism, but until the system itself falls, as it will, as it must, the same issues of the wealthy exploiting and oppressing everything and everyone will remain.

  • @pee_0656
    @pee_0656 Рік тому +48

    Great video comrade. Boyboy and The deprogram all having videos about war in the same week is quite nice.

    • @pee_0656
      @pee_0656 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/lXNKZFmAk-w/v-deo.html here is the deprogram video btw for anyone who cares

  • @dreamlinervirus
    @dreamlinervirus Рік тому +4

    This video slaps. No other way to put it. From the classical music to the way he looks at the camera… amazing camerawork and I love it.

  • @user-em6ie2be7x
    @user-em6ie2be7x Рік тому +9

    Kinda makes you wonder why do we even have Diplomats when it looks like Diplomacy is always the last option instead of the first.

    • @DefenderOfLogic
      @DefenderOfLogic Рік тому +5

      Diplomats have multiple functions. Gaining intelligence. Forming relationships and bonds with heads of state that control trade agreements.

    • @user-em6ie2be7x
      @user-em6ie2be7x Рік тому +5

      @@DefenderOfLogic I was thinking more along the lines of stopping wars before they start.

    • @DefenderOfLogic
      @DefenderOfLogic Рік тому +1

      @@user-em6ie2be7x In the context of war, yes.
      But a diplomat in the context of capitalism, no. There are times when war is extremely profitable.

  • @james0805
    @james0805 Рік тому +6

    And let’s not forget it’s the working class that fights the wars, not rich kids. Eugene Debs spoke against WwI for that reason and was jailed by Wilson

  • @NothingXemnas
    @NothingXemnas Рік тому +80

    This video greatly synergizes and even adds to a video about how oil and gas companies make profit out of the Russo-Ukrainian war, by Climate Town. The rich only got richer with COVID and the war, two VERY contemporary situations that are being very well analyzed and documented, for good or bad.

    • @drzeworyj
      @drzeworyj Рік тому +1

      one thing to say: correlation is not causation. trust me, you wouldn't like to be on the side of a country who's fighting a blood-drunken psychopath, nor would you like to live in mud and sh*t-covered Russia under his rule.

    • @ZealothPL
      @ZealothPL Рік тому

      The west made sure russia was a corrupt oligarchy after the fall of the soviet union. All of those libshits suddenly caring about "plight of the Ukrainian people" publicly denounced "russian oligarchs" while actively helping them extract as much wealth from russia as possible

    • @Mortablunt
      @Mortablunt Рік тому +2

      You must be talking about Ukraine. Russia is fairly well prosperous and isn’t run by a genocidal Nazi lover who has killed hundreds of thousands of his own people for being on the wrong side of a small ethnic linguistic gap.

    • @NothingXemnas
      @NothingXemnas Рік тому

      @@Mortablunt
      Did you watch the video in question? That is the only thing I am talking about. If it is about Russia or Ukraine, ask Robbie Williams from Climate Town.

    • @NothingXemnas
      @NothingXemnas Рік тому

      @@drzeworyj
      It is not a "correlation vs causation" case. Again, just watch the video in question, but basically, it is just oil companies using the was an excuse to push for further oil control, in and out of the US, REGARDLESS of whose side they are taking.

  • @minacapella8319
    @minacapella8319 Рік тому +3

    Beautiful work. Really glad there's people like you making content like this.

  • @ijudgeanime
    @ijudgeanime Рік тому +16

    Always a pleasure to watch this channel. Keep up the good work!

  • @natalieeuley1734
    @natalieeuley1734 Рік тому +4

    I don't know how many previous videos you have done this in (your videos don't always reach my feed). But I loved all the library research scenes you had going on. And all the historical artwork. It's a really awesome change of pace from stock footage

  • @suolainenomena7631
    @suolainenomena7631 Рік тому +4

    Did I say thank you yet? Thank you. We need this message out

  • @xX_Gravity_Xx
    @xX_Gravity_Xx Рік тому +15

    I LOVE the new style of these videos. Absolutely captivating. I've read about this stuff 250x over, and yet, I watch every video you put up. And enjoy them thoroughly, and still end up learning a ton anyway. Great work.

  • @drummerxkun
    @drummerxkun Рік тому +3

    another great vid, jt! very comprehensive for a short 17 min video, which is not surprising. the effort and creativity behind your exploration of filming/editing styles however, is not lost on me. your videos are only getting better and better!! thank you for the hard work again this week!

  • @huntress_9441
    @huntress_9441 Рік тому +28

    Completely terrifying that we're approaching a 1914 situation with China and the US, and despite strong connections with both countries, Australia's political leaders seem to want to make things even worse

    • @projectp1821
      @projectp1821 Рік тому

      We are the little brother of USA they say “go kick that guy (China) in the shin, and when he defends himself … we can punch him in the face”

    • @badcabbage4836
      @badcabbage4836 Рік тому

      US is in for a rude awakening. China is clearly, and quickly, outpacing us in every conceivable way.

  • @praveenmunda1323
    @praveenmunda1323 11 місяців тому +2

    Great work

  • @lowkeydemodest8381
    @lowkeydemodest8381 Рік тому +6

    Have been a big fan of your content since discovering your channel a month ago 👍🏽

  • @maykechi7752
    @maykechi7752 Рік тому +27

    Just woke up to this.

    • @namarrkon
      @namarrkon Рік тому +1

      Falling asleep to this!

    • @legitplayin6977
      @legitplayin6977 Рік тому +6

      „another woke liberal”

    • @esc5272
      @esc5272 Рік тому

      We don't need more "wokes"!

    • @jimgraham6722
      @jimgraham6722 Рік тому +1

      Same here, interesting though.

    • @nerrler5574
      @nerrler5574 Рік тому

      ​@@legitplayin6977 liberal is a terrible insult to leftists.

  • @jelef001
    @jelef001 Рік тому +1

    I liked this so much I sat through the ad in the middle. Usually I just start a new video when. An ad starts.

  • @DerrickRuthless
    @DerrickRuthless Рік тому +2

    Your videos are eye-opening! Thank you!

  • @christianbarrett3040
    @christianbarrett3040 Рік тому +3

    The opening piss take was amazing

  • @mk-oc7mt
    @mk-oc7mt Рік тому +9

    Great video JT. A good follow up for part 2 might include a deeper dive into the class conflicts within nations that colonized / have been colonized / were deconolozing. Often is is the capital owning class within colonized nations and their contradiction with the working class that is complicit with exploitation, not the “nation” itself. This is a good demonstration of capital owning class solidarity across colonizing and colonized society, challenges liberal notions of nation state relations, and highlights the need for international working class solidarity. As Engels believed, the purpose of war is often to strengthen the capital owning classes of both nations.

  • @lukemwp
    @lukemwp Рік тому +2

    That opening was amazing. Loved the dripping sarcasm

  • @Ehh.....
    @Ehh..... Рік тому +2

    I appreciate your aggressively deadpan sense of humor.

  • @TonyFed
    @TonyFed Рік тому +3

    Timely content given the fact that I spent several hours today arguing with people who think that choking a homeless person to death on the subway makes you a “hero”.

  • @carlosaysstuff
    @carlosaysstuff Рік тому +9

    I JUST HAD 2 THOUGHTS

  • @VSHTON
    @VSHTON Рік тому +2

    25 seconds in and I’m so proud of the production already bro, love your content

  • @calvinawald1225
    @calvinawald1225 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic work

  • @jorgeosuna1759
    @jorgeosuna1759 Рік тому +4

    The Cunk type intro was cool. Your videos are definitely showing more quality overall.

  • @Tracey209
    @Tracey209 Рік тому +1

    You went crazy with this one broooo sooooo dankkkkkk

  • @ItsaJuraff
    @ItsaJuraff Рік тому +1

    Loved the style on this one. A little bit of theatrics, clear and simple but visually interesting shots, and strong focus on the core message

  • @slowjamsliver7006
    @slowjamsliver7006 Рік тому +4

    During the later parts of the Industrial Revolution, the local economy of the UK had basically run dry. The average worker was paid so little that they didn't have the money to buy what they produced. The result was that wealthy individuals were forced to invest in places other than the UK because people were too poor.

  • @Local_Salad
    @Local_Salad Рік тому +1

    your videos get better with each episode :D

  • @btetschner
    @btetschner Рік тому +2

    A+ video!
    Amazing topic and discussion!

  • @rmanboos5633
    @rmanboos5633 Рік тому +4

    Just gotta say man I really apreciate the work you do. You and several othere genuinely got me to change my mind on a lot of things. I hate to admit it but I have left some ignorant comments on some of your previous videos but I certainly don’t stand by them anymore.
    Just had to get that off my chest. Just keep doing what you do best man

  • @boombot934
    @boombot934 Рік тому +3

    Thank you, JT! Brilliant👍 analysis! 😊😢

  • @cammanc1
    @cammanc1 Рік тому +1

    Love the new style JT!

  • @naimrashid3908
    @naimrashid3908 Рік тому +2

    YOU ARE THE BOMB MAN ! LOVE YOUR INFO AND PRESENTATION ! STRAIGHT NEXT LEVEL !

  • @YananoBere
    @YananoBere Рік тому +8

    10:28 is one of the most important gems in this documentary. Instead of acknowledging the neocolonial apparatus at work people peddle a tired and false narrative of Africansl states being poor because of incompetence, corruption and inferior means.

  • @HundredPercentLuck
    @HundredPercentLuck Рік тому +3

    Usually don't comment but I believe I should, because I really like your videos and imagine it could help.

  • @septic55
    @septic55 9 місяців тому +2

    Hands down the best channel on UA-cam. Awesome video addressing one of the pillars of defending unfettered capitalism.

  • @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear
    @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear Рік тому

    Thanks for the video

  • @mossydog2385
    @mossydog2385 Рік тому +4

    "Profits are where all happiness is contained"
    ------ Pete Seeger...

  • @codacreator6162
    @codacreator6162 Рік тому +8

    You know what’s missing? Trust. And the nagging notion that someone else may get more than you keeps us from trusting anyone else. Grifters and thieves don’t help.

  • @James-ld2jc
    @James-ld2jc 3 місяці тому

    Really enjoyed this, very thought provoking

  • @missx147
    @missx147 Рік тому +1

    Thanks! You're amazingly eye-opening 👏🏾

  • @ericcarabetta1161
    @ericcarabetta1161 Рік тому +3

    If only our politicians had the same, _"Welllll, we really don't want to spend the money. Plus, we don't like them. And even if we did, how would we pay for it?"_ attitude towards war, that they have towards working class or homeless people. Wouldn't that be nice?

  • @GoidoslavDobromyslow
    @GoidoslavDobromyslow Рік тому +15

    Американским работягам пролетарский привет . Миру мир братья ! Жалко не владею английским языком ,а субтитров нет ! Работягам нечего делить !

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz Рік тому +7

      Google is happy to translate your greetings, thank you.

    • @xanderjames8682
      @xanderjames8682 Рік тому

      ​@@CarFreeSegnitz shoulda used translate on your comment man😂 as obvs wouldnt understand fully

    • @andrey-uf1tg
      @andrey-uf1tg Рік тому

      Just in case machine translation is inaccurate: "Proletarian greetings to American working guys. Peace to the world, brothers! It's a pity I can't speak English, and there are no subtitles! Workers have nothing to divide between them!" (I fully endorse all that was said).
      Я слышал, в яндекс.видео есть закадровый перевод видео с английского на русский.

    • @GoidoslavDobromyslow
      @GoidoslavDobromyslow Рік тому

      @@andrey-uf1tg В английском языке наверное нельзя бросать фразы без конкретики как в русском ? У нас видимо понятно о чем идет речь из контекста ,а в английском видимо не так ...?

  • @jordanluke73
    @jordanluke73 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely spitting, really appreciate your channel! glad I subbed after seeing Has react to one of your other videos.

  • @kwahujakquai6726
    @kwahujakquai6726 Рік тому +1

    I love your content!! Thank you so much!!!

  • @gasmask1795
    @gasmask1795 Рік тому +8

    Thank you brother ✊
    Actually, i found one interesting book called 'The Jakarta Method " by Vincent Bevins.
    I think it's very important for overall understanding about all of the wild sh.. t that going on right now, and how that happened.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Рік тому +30

    I genuinely had a double take hearing the phrase "white supremacist butter".

    • @suicune2001
      @suicune2001 Рік тому +3

      Gotta spread it allllll over.

  • @Tauasa
    @Tauasa 3 місяці тому

    Fantastic episode!