A Future Beyond Capitalism? Socialism Explained.

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  • @SecondThought
    @SecondThought  4 роки тому +2889

    Hey everyone! I hope you all enjoy this week's video. This episode was made in collaboration with Azurescapegoat, so be sure to check out their video after this one! I've also added links to all their socials, plus sources and further reading in the description. ua-cam.com/video/OOt6pOjJc5E/v-deo.html

    • @jackpotdadon
      @jackpotdadon 4 роки тому +29

      I definitely will my G keep hustling hard and I will be looking forward to more of your future videos 😁💯

    • @rileypruitt1834
      @rileypruitt1834 4 роки тому +41

      I especially recommend their video on Cuban democracy!

    • @rileypruitt1834
      @rileypruitt1834 4 роки тому +25

      @UCmv33pn3yypm6ptakSb8q0Q Capitalism kills. Just look at the coronavirus.

    • @reeseling-20
      @reeseling-20 4 роки тому +37

      dude you're gonna get blackbagged with all these anti-american videos. Keep it up!!

    • @Junebug0369
      @Junebug0369 4 роки тому +32

      @@simulify8726 he considers himself a socialist

  • @walterw8310
    @walterw8310 4 роки тому +1153

    I went to high school, dropped out of college because I couldn't work 3 jobs and go to school at the same time, no kids, I have slaved in the Texas sun for 30 years, worked for Enron, worked evictions after the 08 crash, I have been on the verge of homelessness since the very beginning of my life. Every single time I needed medical attention, a bad cut to the arm, or I was super sick once, the bills were $4000-$8000 depending. I will never own even a modest home. Forever renting. Investors snap up houses and drive up rent and housing prices before I could ever hope to live in one. And yet I am surrounded by mansions. Old money. It is I that am old now. I dont heal as fast anymore. My legs hurt in the morning. I am slowing down. I miss everything, I will never get to be. I wish things would have been different. I hope everyone finds what they are looking for. Thank you for this video.

    • @dave_riots
      @dave_riots 4 роки тому +143

      This broke my heart to read. I'm sorry that all of this happened to you. 😢
      I hope we'll be able to see change soon so you can finally get the chance to own the place you can call home!

    • @jcr2408
      @jcr2408 3 роки тому +128

      @@aeyk781 Man that's heartless.

    • @jamesgravil9162
      @jamesgravil9162 3 роки тому +4

      @@henrycrabs3497 How is it funny?

    • @ataarono
      @ataarono 3 роки тому +8

      how the f do you work 30 years for enron and have nothing left

    • @wulfstein3630
      @wulfstein3630 3 роки тому +43

      Capitalism works us as hard as we may be urged to work, and when we no longer can, makes us feel worthless for it. It keeps us looking towards tomorrow, next week- when we only ever live right here, and right now. Life speeds by and so do we. But hey, whilst you're still here, take a walk outside. Look at the trees, the blades of grass, flowers and sky, and just soak it all in. In my opinion, that, precisely, is what life is all about. Just experiencing the nature of experience, feeling the feeling that is "you"-ness. You are all you could ever be, naturally(as the world has, is, did play out in this instance, with these conditions globally and locally), or you'd be someone else.

  • @Smonserratm
    @Smonserratm 4 роки тому +4888

    I love how people say "2008 crisis" as if it ended at some point. I feel like I've lived the last 12 years in crisis.

    • @USSAnimeNCC-
      @USSAnimeNCC- 4 роки тому +259

      It was never fix

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  4 роки тому +1275

      Yep, like I said in the video, much of the population never really regained their footing. It’s been a slow decline since the 80s, and a more rapid decline since 2008.

    • @michaelboulos3272
      @michaelboulos3272 4 роки тому +103

      It started on September 11, 2001 for me

    • @Dante-fb3ck
      @Dante-fb3ck 4 роки тому +108

      It did restore in much of the world, just not in the USA. Good luck to you guys! Hopefully the socialists will win the ideological war.

    • @cakastas
      @cakastas 4 роки тому +130

      yep, i never recovered from 2008. I make less now than I did then. The worst part is that you struggle and then are blamed for it too.

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY 4 роки тому +10258

    “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.”
    ― Dom Helder Camara

    • @comradefreedom8275
      @comradefreedom8275 4 роки тому +333

      Love this quote.

    • @hectorvega621
      @hectorvega621 4 роки тому +120

      @@Astroman1958 Fuck Churchill! His the reason we have this Iran mess Anyways.

    • @followleifenggoodexample3578
      @followleifenggoodexample3578 4 роки тому +50

      @@Astroman1958 And why'd you think that?

    • @hectorvega621
      @hectorvega621 4 роки тому +183

      @@Astroman1958 How could you assume I'm in Europe when I talked about Iran. Churchill convince the US to overthrow the Prime minister of Iran, which would lead to a blowback in 1979 as the sha was replaced by the Ayatollah.

    • @hectorvega621
      @hectorvega621 4 роки тому +147

      @@Astroman1958 Iran Nationalized it's Oil. Churchill being the man he is. Convince the US to De'coup the Democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran in 1953.

  • @claytonr.young-music912
    @claytonr.young-music912 Рік тому +341

    "It's like the American dream-only it's real". My favorite quote from this video.

    • @MckensyLong
      @MckensyLong Рік тому +2

      Until you get to 24:20...

    • @evancurtis
      @evancurtis Рік тому

      @@MckensyLong or how if you take the worlds GDP and divide it by all the people in the world you get $12,000 person. I think their logic has left the room cause this is mass poverty.

    • @veselgana
      @veselgana Рік тому +1

      No, it’s not

    • @PanzerkampfwagenVITigerIAusfE
      @PanzerkampfwagenVITigerIAusfE 6 місяців тому +1

      @@veselganait isnt but it will

    • @kacydeyoe9764
      @kacydeyoe9764 5 місяців тому +1

      If only that utopia actually existed. Read about what happened to vietnam, argentina, the ussr. And read the basic principals of exonomics. There is a reason why socialism fails. Economics is like a financial science of human behavior and markets. Socialism doesnt work with any of the main principals of human behavior which is why it fails

  • @MalachiVanHaynes
    @MalachiVanHaynes 3 роки тому +1072

    Thomas Sankara was president from 33-37 yrs old, when he was assassinated. To single-handedly accomplish that much good for his country of 7 million people in just 4 years shows what is possible with anti-imperialist society. What an amazing individual.

    • @50733Blabla1337
      @50733Blabla1337 3 роки тому +63

      The documentary about him here on youtube is amazing. Also the way he died was 12/10 anime betrayal it was his quasi best friend and he knew that it was coming.

    • @whoaismoi
      @whoaismoi 2 роки тому

      It be ya own niggas

    • @komojiro7397
      @komojiro7397 2 роки тому +16

      Damn this dude Sankara sounds like a role model.

    • @analyticalmindset
      @analyticalmindset 2 роки тому +1

      He's my north star

    • @thermotalks4669
      @thermotalks4669 2 роки тому +3

      @@50733Blabla1337 which documentary

  • @derektingey3294
    @derektingey3294 3 роки тому +6082

    It’s interesting how most people agree with marxism when you explain it without the label, but right when you say the word communism they think you’re a lunatic

    • @ГероїНеВмирають-ГероїЕвакуюють
      @ГероїНеВмирають-ГероїЕвакуюють 3 роки тому +65

      People are -stupid- incurious. → Brainwash is effective. → Capital rules (but self-distructs, burying under its rubbles those who deserve).

    • @adamgtrap
      @adamgtrap 3 роки тому +577

      I have noticed something similar, especially in regard to politics or economics. There is/has been a lot of marketing around various words: "marxism" "socialism" "obama care" "rights" "communist". Like socialism, many older people I know are cool with social security, medicare, insurance, and many other government or at least pooled safety nets and how they function. But if the specific word "socialism" comes out, they are suddenly hardcore against it.

    • @ajones363
      @ajones363 3 роки тому +108

      That's because socialism works as a theoretical idea, but when you put it into practice... it kinda sucks - see like most socialist, command economy countries.

    • @Axccei
      @Axccei 3 роки тому +449

      @@ajones363 If your nation is running an exploitative command economy then obviously its going to suck regardless of the economic system they use. Just as one can exploit the advantages of capitalism, one can do the same with both socialism and communism. Ontop of the fact that exploitative command economies are not going to market themselves as what they truly are. High ranking officials in these kinds of nations are most certaintly going to pile sugar ontop of the harsh reality that they are providing. Socialism is no silver bullet for a perfect society but many of the policies that people need in hyper capitalist societys to thrive are found in the principles of socialism.

    • @ratelarmonter4736
      @ratelarmonter4736 3 роки тому +49

      @@ajones363
      Sorry, but what was actually implemented in practice is already proof that it works, turn on and off the light in your house, and then declare that the light does not work, therefore it never worked - this is logical nonsense, because the light is simply turned off, and this does not mean that the light in the house is not working.
      Capitalism literally sacrificed your logical thinking in the name of preserving Bezos' status.

  • @jesmcdevlin3116
    @jesmcdevlin3116 4 роки тому +2359

    As a trucker who drove refrigerated goods, I saw this abandoning of produce in almost every state, at every port, at every store house. I was able to "reclaim" a few crates here and there and I spread them amongst my brothers and sisters at truck stops. It happens everywhere, and it is truly horrible.
    I still have nightmares and PTSD from the things I saw them do to live stock as well. Inhumane is the least offensive of the words I can use to describe the horror that is the meat industry. And don't get me wrong, I'm a country boy, I love me some meat. But I started doing research on where it came and how it was treated. but now jobless, unable to get on disability, and with no way to work, I settle for what food I'm given.
    I come from a military family, and we all know all too well; America thrives on war. America thrives on the suffering of the innocent, and the death of the freedoms of all people, even it's own. America needs a war every 20 years minimum to sustain itself. And at the rate our politicians are going the next one could very well be a civil war. Welcome all to the age of the civil-cold war.
    Karma in America is dead; I've fed the poor and desperate, treated them as proper people while I prospered. At almost every stop as a trucker there where homeless. I gave out MREs, Space blankets, socks, razers, soap, and clean water to them. I don't care who you are, what religion, color, race, gender, I count you all as brother and sister. We are all in this together, and I'm frightened for us all. Be safe out there. And be more well than I.
    In these times, it is best to do as America has always done, offer one hand in friendship and peace, and arm the other to keep the peace from those who are no friend. I am worried for our once great nation.

    • @vincentvilla5669
      @vincentvilla5669 4 роки тому +128

      There is no time limit for karma.. your selfless deeds will be paid in full when the universe decides it is time. Hang in there brother, and do not lose hope!

    • @dirtyhiggins5484
      @dirtyhiggins5484 4 роки тому +89

      Thank you for your kindness

    • @_TSC_46
      @_TSC_46 4 роки тому +86

      The meat industry really is horrible, the book The Jungle describes it as it was 100 years ago. Thank you for your kindness and selfless support for others your a kind man and I’m sure that the people around you know.

    • @alejandrojoserodriguezarre45
      @alejandrojoserodriguezarre45 4 роки тому +52

      My friend you are a shining example of humanity in a world that seriously lacks it. Thank you for what you do and I can only hope your story inspires more people to do it

    • @CutieZalbu
      @CutieZalbu 4 роки тому +10

      May Good bless you and america 🇺🇸

  • @netteloveszebras
    @netteloveszebras Рік тому +259

    To me, the idea of infinite growth being unsustainable was obvious. What do these corporate overlords think is supposed to happen? They are truly so blinded by greed they only care about their bonus and their wealth.

    • @chrisgaming9567
      @chrisgaming9567 Рік тому +47

      They assume they'll be long dead when everything falls apart, so it's not their problem

    • @netteloveszebras
      @netteloveszebras Рік тому +23

      @@chrisgaming9567 I absolutely hate that attitude 😫 it’s everything wrong with the world

    • @qunituabastard1754
      @qunituabastard1754 Рік тому +7

      @@chrisgaming9567 wow that's extremely greed-blinded

    • @The_True_Mx_Pink
      @The_True_Mx_Pink Рік тому

      As a wise anti-corporate orange thing once said, you can't blame greed. Greed is the spark, but pride is what burns everything down.

    • @ocs10
      @ocs10 Рік тому

      Its not about the manager with bonus its about the law and culture which accepts profits which is only an adition to the costs for greed of the capitalist/ owners. Its made up structurally

  • @joaocaetano2966
    @joaocaetano2966 3 роки тому +1985

    In my country, Brazil, after the resign of the right-wing President Jânio Quadros in 1961, his left-wing vice-president João Goulart, known as Jango, took office (in those times president and vice-president were elected separately). Jango started what he called "Basic Reforms": giving the illiterate the right to vote, fighting illiteracy, promoting redistribution of the land and housing for all. The people loved him, even in the State of São Paulo, where his party always lost the elections.
    His government was overthrown by a CIA-supported military coup, and Brazil entered a 21-year-long dictatorship.
    He died in exile.

    • @Captain_FAIL
      @Captain_FAIL 3 роки тому +209

      Everyone south of USA might as well be called a martyr

    • @cinnamon-skateboarding5987
      @cinnamon-skateboarding5987 3 роки тому +310

      Reason 312 why the U.S is actually the bad guys of the world:

    • @tastyfalcon1788
      @tastyfalcon1788 3 роки тому +273

      CIA: LEFT-WING? OMG COMMUNISTS MUST DESTROY
      Brazil: Bro I'm not even a socialist much less a communist, I'm just fighting illiteracy and inequality...

    • @dingermcgee3871
      @dingermcgee3871 3 роки тому +21

      @@cinnamon-skateboarding5987 why is it always the United States that gets all of the flack for being shit in the Cold War. Of course we were bad but it’s not like the soviets and other groups were that much better.

    • @tofupowda
      @tofupowda 3 роки тому +232

      @@dingermcgee3871 which one still exists and continues to rule by forced hegemony?

  • @djavanh2538
    @djavanh2538 2 роки тому +1335

    As an ex-walmart employee, I can confirm that we do indeed throw out mountains of food every day. One time I asked why we don't donate what we don't sell and a manager said to me, "why should we take the loss by giving away sellable goods?"I was than told to go back to business school and get back to work. To complete my paycheque I quit the next week...
    These mega-corporations should be viewed as nothing more than monsters. Not the individuals who work for these companies but the capitol owners themselves

    • @Axalachi
      @Axalachi 2 роки тому +71

      Just imagine the amount of food being wasted every year 😟

    • @janthecoo4964
      @janthecoo4964 2 роки тому +60

      probably a silly 'solution' (it only helps partially) the government can provide is just taxing the hell out of thrown out stuff. probably already happens, but more tax is just a bigger incentive to donate the food to food banks etc. here in the netherlands it recently became popular to price things at ridiculously low prices (10 - 30% of the original price) if it was only good for one more day. Every evening when that stuff gets refilled and every morning when the store opens there is just a group of people checking out what cheap products they can use. usually everything is gone before noon. just seeing how much food wouldve been thrown out every single day only for all of it to be sold to people that dont have much to spend or given away to food banks (what is past due date, leftovers from the previous thing i talked about, but is edible doesnt get thrown away) is really nice. btw, the hassle to be in time to buy stuff at a reduced price and the fact that it is all close to due date makes it inconvenient for richer people to profit off of this. as inconvenience is the biggest enemy of the comfortable, the people who struggle financially will actually benefit from this.

    • @connoranimethoughts8574
      @connoranimethoughts8574 Рік тому +10

      ​@@janthecoo4964great point.

    • @someundeadtalent2016
      @someundeadtalent2016 Рік тому +30

      In Germany they were discussing why „Containern“ (getting food out of the bins at supermarkets) is still illegal.
      You know what a representative of the food industry said?
      - the risk of food containing glass is too high. Less than 0.0001% of food contains glass.
      - way more food is thrown out in households, not in the industry. So what? Every single bit of solving food and feeding the poor helps. What kinda logic is that?

    • @nemesisurvivorleon
      @nemesisurvivorleon Рік тому

      idiot manager. Most businesses get rid of food because it expires. There's plenty of corporate greed though.

  • @Eli_Guy
    @Eli_Guy 3 роки тому +1631

    The most cold phrase in the modern world: "It's just business."

    • @comradefreedom8275
      @comradefreedom8275 3 роки тому +26

      Basically, yes.

    • @aoveratedjoke3583
      @aoveratedjoke3583 3 роки тому +51

      Hollywoods favourite trope too, which is funny because the movies that use it are produced by companies like disney

    • @comradefreedom8275
      @comradefreedom8275 3 роки тому +17

      @@aoveratedjoke3583 How ironic.

    • @aoveratedjoke3583
      @aoveratedjoke3583 3 роки тому +10

      @@comradefreedom8275 very

    • @peao010109
      @peao010109 3 роки тому +44

      A truly disgusting quote no one should live by, ignoring morality just because of money.

  • @allywallydd
    @allywallydd Рік тому +258

    The part where you said that capitalism and America are so intertwined that it feels like it's our culture, and attacking capitalism is like attacking America... that made SO many dots connect in my head. Thank you for these videos - they have explained concepts I knew of and slightly understood to a point where I could *probably* hold my own conversation with someone now, lol.

  • @nate-bc9zw
    @nate-bc9zw 3 роки тому +2465

    “When you lose your job, you lose your right to live” Couldn’t have said it better myself.

    • @bubba3225
      @bubba3225 3 роки тому +79

      Before this pandemic I was blind just shut up and work. Now it is get vac, go to work, if you die or lose house, oh well. Oh by the way, you can't sue a company we passed laws for that.

    • @BarrySlisk
      @BarrySlisk 3 роки тому +3

      Ability maybe, but never right.

    • @uncannyvalley2350
      @uncannyvalley2350 3 роки тому +36

      @@BarrySlisk wow, such a distinction ...without difference

    • @BarrySlisk
      @BarrySlisk 3 роки тому +8

      @@uncannyvalley2350
      There is a big difference. No one can take your life. That is a right to live.
      But in return you do not have the right to someone else's life, time and money.

    • @joyn6654
      @joyn6654 3 роки тому +27

      Right, having no choice but to have a job is the definition of "kidnapping".

  • @alex_blue5802
    @alex_blue5802 2 роки тому +1045

    When covid hit many people in my industry switched to remote work, and some moved out of expensive cities. Bosses gave interviews saying they would not pay the same salaries to those that lived in cheaper areas. They openly admitted that it was never about fair pay for the work we put in, it was about paying us just enough to live on.

    • @imnotmike
      @imnotmike 2 роки тому +41

      @@notpublic8961 That's just over simplistic and untrue. This is micro-economics. When you take macro-economics you learn that everything in micro-economics is wrong because there are just too many factors that you can't account for to have any of that stuff work the way it's modelled.

    • @link7417
      @link7417 2 роки тому +86

      @@notpublic8961 he just stated that people that was already employees that moved out from expensive cities was getting pay cuts for doing the same work they where already doing

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 2 роки тому +3

      Your argument goes both ways. Why was there such a big push for an increase in minimum wage in the last few years? All of the cry for it came from big cities and the reasoning was that it's more expensive to live in big cities. It's exactly the same argument. It's comparing the price of wages to the price of living in a particular area.

    • @Jackzay90
      @Jackzay90 2 роки тому +9

      @@notpublic8961 what tf are you even arguing? They are determining what they are going to pay their employees based on where they live, because they are assuming a person with cheaper living expenses is going to be more willing to accept lower pay - the rate they would like to pay all employees in that position if they could, but recognize they can't because a certain percentage of their applicant pool is going to have higher living expenses and therefore won't accept the position. No one is debating how competition works. You're overcomplicating it to try and make the argument that leftists just don't understand basic economics.

    • @LionsMayday
      @LionsMayday 2 роки тому +1

      @@notpublic8961 Not entirely true since high qualification jobs can be outsourced to other people for lower pay.

  • @zoegoode4388
    @zoegoode4388 2 роки тому +1948

    that thing about the number of homeless people compared to the number of vacant homes really got to me. it's crazy the sheer amount of greed in our world.

    • @averyarp7901
      @averyarp7901 2 роки тому +20

      So no one should be compensated for skill. You carpenter you shall have same gruel as non worker, rejoice in our system comrade. My grandma left such shit now it coming for my country just great.

    • @armyofninjas9055
      @armyofninjas9055 2 роки тому

      @@averyarp7901 Pro tip: Capitalism poisoned your socialist country. And now you lick its boots.

    • @averyarp7901
      @averyarp7901 2 роки тому +13

      @@sophiathefurbst I did and I refuse to willing participate a failed experiment at my expense.

    • @averyarp7901
      @averyarp7901 2 роки тому +4

      @@armyofninjas9055 what are you talking about, licking nothing I just know I don't want to participate in another eventual failed endeavour.

    • @m.zahiruddinmohhar6492
      @m.zahiruddinmohhar6492 2 роки тому +23

      Capitalism is better but human greed ruins it. Creating money out of thin air and making profit from imaginary loans and refusing to fail makes all of our time value diluted.

  • @amongstsus9201
    @amongstsus9201 Рік тому +112

    I slept in a tent for 4 months - in a forest near a hotel. Every night I'd stare at those empty rooms and have to PRETEND that they were worth $100/night.
    When it rained and my tent became flooded, I'd stare at the hotel.
    When my back ached and my clothes smelled, I'd stare at the hotel.
    When I was SICK in FREEZING TEMPARATURES, SLEEPING OUTSIDE FOR TWO WEEKS, I STARED AT THAT HOTEL.
    What a sick and twisted joke.

  • @lucianocanoy4724
    @lucianocanoy4724 3 роки тому +221

    “This is the part where you may have to grit your teeth and sit through some parts you don’t want to hear.”
    *Ad plays*

    • @moe3213
      @moe3213 3 роки тому +3

      @@shannonossman3473 Got a better idea anarkiddie

  • @TheHardstyleMusicz
    @TheHardstyleMusicz 4 роки тому +1865

    Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t Capitalism feel just like larger scale Feudalism?

    • @pxlbits6442
      @pxlbits6442 4 роки тому +164

      It is very similar indeed, with classes being redefined from the lord to an employer and such. Just with technology and industrialization

    • @GospelofGabriel
      @GospelofGabriel 4 роки тому +71

      I'll correct you.
      You're wrong.
      Free and voluntary exchange of agreement between individuals and entities is nothing like the feudal lord or baron forcing you into servitude by threat of violence, destitution, exile or death. ✌

    • @angquangnguyenthac2833
      @angquangnguyenthac2833 4 роки тому +299

      @@GospelofGabriel let see.......
      You Are being forced into servitude by threats of violence (hired goons and starvation), destitution (being shunned and outlawed, essentially being denied a community and a home to live in), exile (prison) and death (assassinations, coups and extrajudicial killings by either the police or the fanatical supporters of capitalism).
      So yes, capitalism is basically just feudalism with more bells and whistles.

    • @AndrewSmithDev
      @AndrewSmithDev 4 роки тому +126

      That just sounds like slavery with extra steps

    • @pxlbits6442
      @pxlbits6442 4 роки тому +25

      @@GospelofGabriel Ah yes, It has its certain characteristics similar and excluded some and disguised some. Thank you.

  • @Au_196
    @Au_196 3 роки тому +2841

    "It's like the American Dream. Only real." That hit hard.

    • @R7_Studio
      @R7_Studio 3 роки тому +30

      Costa rica is the true American dream… hope we could learn from them.

    • @R7_Studio
      @R7_Studio 3 роки тому +72

      @snarl banarl No, but they also don't have a military to invest trillion of dollars. Instead, they use that money to give free education and a great health care.

    • @coolmanboss5
      @coolmanboss5 3 роки тому +4

      But it is real

    • @NoahBodze
      @NoahBodze 3 роки тому +2

      You only felt it because you’re useless to other people.
      You’re welcome for the clarification!

    • @coolmanboss5
      @coolmanboss5 3 роки тому +3

      @snarl banarl did you? The vid is wrong lol

  • @approachingetterath9959
    @approachingetterath9959 2 роки тому +108

    hearing about Thomas Sankara made me really happy; then the gut punch that he was murdered. genuinely sad. he sounds like he was a really swell guy and we need more of him

    • @tymanung6382
      @tymanung6382 Рік тому +6

      1 of too many targets/ victims/
      martyrs.

    • @georgepresley5120
      @georgepresley5120 Рік тому

      Not just Sankara..we had the likes of Kwame Nkuruma, Samora Machel, Patrice Lumumba, Julius Nyerere among other leftist who were either murdered or seriously undermined by the US. In my country Kenya we have the Odinga family that has successfully been demonised by the US and as a result we have corrupt capitalist as leaders and a deeply tribalist politics devoid of any ideas

  • @bananoverlord6962
    @bananoverlord6962 4 роки тому +688

    I remember a story my dad once told me about Indonesia's first president, Soekarno, he was very much a socialist, and very much cared for his people, he had a "Communist party" that worked in the interest of the people, he was well loved, he was one of our lead men in our fight against imperialist. And how it all ended? The U.S.A staged a coup, imprisoned him, spread propaganda that caused the death of the communist party, and installed the vice president, who instead of working for the people, caused suffering. Indonesia seemed like it was the Soviet Union just without the communism. Students were kidnapped and killed for speaking out against the government, military officers were blamed for things they didn't do, and people suffered. Today, we're fortunate to have a president who's more well liked.
    Second Thought, you are a great channel, I hope you manage to hit a million soon. You deserve this attention and you sure as hell have my like.

    • @hectorvega621
      @hectorvega621 4 роки тому +8

      I think I read a story that tied to that.

    • @kshproductions7996
      @kshproductions7996 4 роки тому +46

      @CRISTIAN TEARE The USSR was counterrevolutionary and one of the first things Lenin did when he got into power was weaken and eventually destroy the organic worker council and trade union movements that had excelled at worker self-determination and workplace democracy, and in place insert extreme centralization, long after the period of war-communism was over. We will never forget Kronstadt and and what the bolsheviks did to destroy it. I recommend reading The Bolsheviks and Workers' Control: The State and Counter-Revolution by Maurice Brinton, it's free on marxists.org. the Bolsheviks actively destroyed organic socialist movements, sowing the seeds for sectarianism:
      "the syndicalist deviation leads to the fall of the dictatorship of the proletariat" - Lenin.
      And on top of this, I would not even consider all Lenin's ideas genuine Marxist. His concept of Vanguardism is much more Blanquist than Marxist. Starting with What Is To Be Done? (1902) Lenin said: “the history of all countries shows that the working class, exclusively by its own efforts, is able to develop only trade union consciousness.” This directly contradicts Marx & Engels' views that the revolution can only be done through the working classes directly, not toward some elite group of people. To speak of the proletariat as ignorant people who need to be forcefully led is one of the most anti-Marxist views one can have:
      “When the International was formed we expressly formulated the battle cry: The emancipation of the working classes must be conquered by the working classes themselves. We cannot, therefore, co-operate with people who openly state that the workers are too uneducated to emancipate themselves and must be freed from above by philanthropic big bourgeois and petty bourgeois” - Marx & Engels, to the leaders of the SDP
      By 1923, even Lenin saw that what had come of the soviet union was nothing more than the czarism that the workers had fought so hard to overthrow, only with a red-colored flair.
      “I am, it seems, strongly guilty before the workers of Russia,” is how he started his last speech, of the bureaucratic system that formed and would soon strengthen with Stalin's grasp of power.
      As Anarcho-communist Peter Kropotkin said:
      "Unhappily, this effort has been made in Russia under a strongly centralized party dictatorship. This effort was made in the same way as the extremely centralized and Jacobin endeavor of Babeuf. I owe it to you to say frankly that, according to my view, this effort to build a communist republic on the basis of a strongly centralized state communism under the iron law of party dictatorship is bound to end in failure. We are learning to know in Russia how not to introduce communism, even with a people tired of the old regime and opposing no active resistance to the experiments of the new rulers."
      And another anarcho-communist Alexander Berkman, whom originally fell in love with the Russian revolution so much he came to visit Russia and witness the sight, but after going through Kronstadt and all that the Bolsheviks did, left with the words:
      "Gray are the passing days. One by one the embers of hope have died out. Terror and despotism have crushed the life born in October. The slogans of the Revolution are foresworn, its ideals stifled in the blood of the people. The breath of yesterday is dooming millions to death; the shadow of today hangs like a black pall over the country. Dictatorship is trampling the masses under foot. The Revolution is dead; its spirit cries in the wilderness.
      High time the truth about the Bolsheviki were told. The whited sepulcher must be unmasked, the clay feet of the fetish beguiling the international proletariat to fatal will o’ the wisps exposed. The Bolshevik myth must be destroyed.
      I have decided to leave, Russia. "
      Socialism will never be ushered top-down, it must be brought out directly by the people.

    • @texxon3355
      @texxon3355 4 роки тому

      I do know what you are talking about, the September 30th movement.

    • @ianj705
      @ianj705 4 роки тому +13

      Suharto funded death squads that systemized rape. Suharto himself embezzled almost $1 billion from taxpayers

    • @AndrewManook
      @AndrewManook 4 роки тому +4

      @@kshproductions7996 And yet Lenin continues to be proven right, just look at Amerikkka...

  • @TruckStopLayby
    @TruckStopLayby 3 роки тому +197

    I remember when we found out what water-boarding was. It was because America was accused of torture ( using water-boarding). They denied it on the grounds that they had 'reclassified' the word torture to only include organ failure or death.

    • @TruckStopLayby
      @TruckStopLayby 3 роки тому +3

      @Isaac Barrett No. The original definition would be forceful information extraction. I could pull out your fingernails and you would not die. Under any other definition that would be torture.

  • @valentinli332
    @valentinli332 3 роки тому +1800

    "Capitalist powers have never allowed Socialism to continue working."
    So accurate.

    • @ryry978
      @ryry978 3 роки тому +10

      Capitalist countries stopped Socialism because they knew it was a threat to ppl and the world. Look at China, Nobody likes it there

    • @valentinli332
      @valentinli332 3 роки тому +139

      @@ryry978 It is more so, a threat to those in power. They don't want an example of how a country truly run by its own people can prosper.

    • @thomaswikstrand8397
      @thomaswikstrand8397 3 роки тому +118

      @@ryry978 china is not socialist for starters - second, where did you get the idea that Chinese people hate their lives in China?

    • @egoamigo-1377
      @egoamigo-1377 3 роки тому +15

      @@valentinli332 I mean to be fair its that but also the fact that any country socialism touched has resulted in a genocide or mass famine in an attempt to give everyone “equality”.

    • @semiramisubw4864
      @semiramisubw4864 3 роки тому +29

      @@ryry978 noone likes there ? damn i visited China multiple times and ive saw people pretty happy and were cheering for their Leading party that keeps improving the middle class and lower class year after year.

  • @katiethe2nd92
    @katiethe2nd92 Рік тому +60

    Thank you so much for this. After watching this video + the “Why can’t we imagine life after capitalism?” has changed my views drastically. I’m a 15 year old and I’ve always felt that capitalism was wrong but I’ve been always told that there wasn’t anything other option or it was our human nature to be greedy and I’ve believed that for the longest time. I didn’t like capitalism, but I couldn’t see no other way. Ive always been depressed about this and constantly found myself in trying to wrap my head around this “truth” that I’ve been fed. I’ve always felt like we were at the “end of history”. That the world was just gonna go down in a spiral until we eventually brought a self made rapture onto ourselves. To make myself feel better I told myself that I would just get rich and try to help as many people as I can and attempt to try to show people the dangers of capitalism but that always felt like a crazy dream.
    I’ve always felt alone with these feelings that we can be so much better than we are. That there’s a different BETTER way, but there was no one around me that felt the same. This video really opened my eyes that we can change our systems to help people instead of damaging them and that there is hope.

    • @Wolfsinga18
      @Wolfsinga18 Рік тому +4

      I feel you there. I live in Australia and I'm only 17. I've always been told that Socialism and Communism create poverty, hunger and homelessness, and I've always believed that. However, after I learned the truth about all of it, I very quickly changed my views. Second Thought has helped inform me so much, and I am glad that videos like this are out there and accessible on UA-cam, even as it tries hard to stop this kind of content.

    • @PrivateSi
      @PrivateSi Рік тому

      There are two bad systems of governance in the wold - Rule by/for the ultra-wealthy and Rule by/fort the ultra-poor... Hyper Capitalism / Corporatism on the one hand and Socialism/Communism on the other.... Socialists are thieves and warpers at all levels, like capitalist marketeers. They believe people should be forced to pay to support The Poor so theft is their core principle.
      --
      Proper Marxists/Commies do not believe in property ownership, instead The Authority owns anything of any value, especially the things that enable individual liberty. Socialists will always label predominantly capitalist but still mixed economies (such as Scandinavia) as Socialist which the vast majority of their citizens finds insulting. They consider themselves liberal capitalist + liberal democratic mixed economies and societies.
      --
      You have to realise The US and UK almost went full-on Communist during the New Deal and WW2 until the 1980s for the UK. The main remnant of UK Socialism is now destroyed by PROGRESSIVE INTERNATIONAL LIBERAL LEFTISM. The NHS became the International Health Service and now we have 2 year waiting lists for major operations, with 100s of 1000s of illegal immigrants housed in hotels and homeless hostels that cost an arm and a leg.
      --
      During WW2 Central Government introduced RATIONING, CONSCRIPTION, NATIONAL SERVICE, NATIONALISATION OF INDUSTRY... Food rationing ended in the middle of the 1950s and state ownership of most industry by 2000... It ended because they were bloated by socialists, thus damaging the economy as a whole, making us uncompetitive, and the state was borrowing a fortune every year propping up failing industries. Standards were getting worse and worse and mass immigration took off so Cheap New Labour became available. Privitisation was the obvious next step. Sink or swim in the OPEN MARKET.
      --
      I thought Libs are supposed to be against Nationalism and for Individual Liberty - so why are US 'liberals' so in love with the control-freak failure of a system that is Socialism / Communism / Fascism - you know, CENTRALLY PLANNED ECONOMY AND SOCIETY? Collectivist, anti-individual ILLIBERAL nonsense.

    • @lelandrobbins2310
      @lelandrobbins2310 Рік тому +9

      It's easy to be misled by videos like this.... especially if you are as young as you say you are.
      Ask yourself this..... is Greed something that is unique to capitalism,or is it a human problem ? Do you think Greed can't exist in any other system?? It absolutely does exist under Socialism/communism if you must know.....
      All I can really suggest to you is read books. Lots of books!! Don't just be persuaded by one video like this or even my comment if you actually read this.
      Read books and learn for yourself!!! The more understanding you gain about how things work the more Economics will start to make sense to you.
      I'd suggest reading Ludwig Von mises, Thomas Sowell, and Hayek. Hell you could even read the Communist Manifesto and the more modern "a people's guide to capitalism" books..... just to get a well rounded compare and contrast view of these ideas.
      Don't take it from me or anyone..... THINK for yourself and make up your own mind..... please! People like you are the future......don't be so easily brainwashed and misled by content like what's in this video.

    • @cubix015
      @cubix015 Рік тому +1

      @@lelandrobbins2310 good advice

    • @cubix015
      @cubix015 Рік тому +1

      @@lelandrobbins2310 can you give some examples on where the creator of the video brainwashed its viewers? i would be open to hear.

  • @mv8qh
    @mv8qh 4 роки тому +2009

    The way you’ve done this is genius. Tell people the issues with capitalism and then present the solution.

    • @00coelho
      @00coelho 4 роки тому +82

      That's literally what marxism is about. Marx hated utopian socialism, so he spent most of his time criticizing his current economic system rather than imagine how a socialist one would look like

    • @batukhan1
      @batukhan1 4 роки тому +50

      @@00coelho Socialist policies cannot bring about a perfect system just like capitalism, it should be seen as necessary control agent for a hybrid capitalist system.

    • @mryoung0412
      @mryoung0412 4 роки тому +5

      Yea i love the optimism that this will possibly change someday, but greed is rooted deep in our economic lifeblood.

    • @robertwinslade3104
      @robertwinslade3104 4 роки тому +18

      That's how Marx approached it, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Unlike Capitalism. Which is definitely broke

    • @kaydenl6836
      @kaydenl6836 4 роки тому +20

      @@batukhan1 a hybrid system cannot exist. That’s like asking for a hybrid of a dictatorship and a free democracy

  • @dinglemckringleberry9429
    @dinglemckringleberry9429 4 роки тому +2641

    Half the country: "We dont want socialism!"
    Same People: "Where's my stimulus check!"

    • @comradefreedom8275
      @comradefreedom8275 4 роки тому +132

      LOL True!
      There's also so many "sOciALiSm iS bIG gUbMeNT!" Comments.

    • @communistpunk8044
      @communistpunk8044 4 роки тому +57

      Stimulus check is socialism, not capitalism. read your history

    • @MrWesford
      @MrWesford 4 роки тому +59

      This is different and you know it. The government is forcing people to stop producing, thus they’re responsible when people can’t provide for their families.
      Socialism is evil. Stop it.

    • @_S.T.A.L.K.E.R._
      @_S.T.A.L.K.E.R._ 4 роки тому +263

      @@MrWesford oh yes, giving people basic human necessities is evil, not capitalism deciding not to end world hunger, curable desesis, homelessness, unclean water, and provide healthcare killing 20 million yearly?

    • @personaanonima972
      @personaanonima972 4 роки тому +70

      @@MrWesford nah, not really.

  • @realBeltalowda
    @realBeltalowda 3 роки тому +332

    America, where your right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are wholly contingent upon your ability to secure employment.

    • @moe3213
      @moe3213 3 роки тому +20

      @@shannonossman3473 Getting a passport and moving is not as easy as you think, otherwise there would be a massivw exodus

    • @nidalkeskin2571
      @nidalkeskin2571 3 роки тому +11

      @@shannonossman3473 we have found one executive xD

    • @jlo6388
      @jlo6388 3 роки тому

      Or, marry someone who does and then you don’t work.
      All creatures: you trade something for food.

    • @davidsilverfield835
      @davidsilverfield835 3 роки тому

      Agreedlol

    • @generatoralignmentdevalue
      @generatoralignmentdevalue 2 роки тому +1

      Well I have half those things. I am alive and hold a full-time job.

  • @Potatohorn42
    @Potatohorn42 Рік тому +32

    Thanks!

  • @Citadel2190
    @Citadel2190 2 роки тому +1275

    "Isn't that what capitalists are always telling us, that hard work should pay off?"
    Well, you know what, they're staying true to their word, hard work does pay off, they never said it would pay off for the workers...

    • @neptune9238
      @neptune9238 2 роки тому

      If socialism is brought to America, then the government controls everything, your money, education, and medical care, they can do whatever the heck they want!

    • @electrokitcity
      @electrokitcity 2 роки тому +64

      Bingo

    • @alexcat6685
      @alexcat6685 2 роки тому +20

      Not just hard work, also risky work.
      As taking a risk is a part of capatilism, you willing to use an oppurtunity to improve your wealth.
      Not in manipulation, most of time you are thrown in a garbage can whent that happens, sadly the law doesn't really care if your filthy rich, so being rich is more of a Backul plan sadly.
      Still you can't just get there with just exploitation as not every person is going take your shit, capatilism encourges you to support those who support you.
      You are viable for your decision in what you want, if you're not given what you want you gotta go and find it.
      The problem Socialism has is trying to determine what everyone wants at the moment they need it, leading to terrible control, then becoming a hierachy when a certain person is given power.
      Its mainly it just doesn't work by basic human function, people are self driven to help, themselves and others. So in a sense the Money is collaborate effort to gain what you want, at the cost of time and effort. You have to be valuable to earn money, just as Buisness need to be valuable to workers and customers to earn sustainable income.

    • @N4chtigall
      @N4chtigall 2 роки тому +6

      Times changed. Simple as that. Nature of work changed. Nowadays working hard physically isn't what makes a lot of money. Working smart, being specialized and having certain skills pays off. And don't blame capitalism for that - it's "natural" course of things. Our needs changed, our world changed, our society changed.

    • @riccardozanoni2531
      @riccardozanoni2531 2 роки тому +58

      @@N4chtigall what about teachers then? would you say teaching is no longer an important position? Would you say that it's not a specialized position? Doesn't it require a wide range of skills? Now tell me, how much are teachers payed? So, yeah... i DO blame capitalism

  • @RaheemD
    @RaheemD 3 роки тому +1119

    I remember when I studied Sociology in Sixth Form and we learnt about Socialism and I was so confused as to why the teacher was making out like it was bad when in reality...it benefited him! The more I learn about socialism and the more I become aware of the economy of my country (The UK) and having experience working for large corporations that don't care about you, I've come to the conclusion we can't continue with capitalism. For me, it's personal because it's pretty impossible to move out and find my own home unless I want all of my money to go to bills which as a result will leave me stuck in the mud for life.

    • @Mrojventura
      @Mrojventura 3 роки тому +19

      We need to operate in a balance system where we don’t lose the ability to have choices but have the protection that we need as humans.

    • @jamiel4803
      @jamiel4803 3 роки тому +5

      Its not impossible its just difficult

    • @carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255
      @carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255 3 роки тому +7

      Because the ideals of socialism cannot be successfully established by governments ruled and financed by those with the most money. The ideals of socialism work best when people apply them in their personal lives. Even things like "healthcare for all" quickly devolve into a non functional system that doesn't care about the individual. I say this as someone living in a mostly left wing-centrist driven country.
      There's some good things, but not as amazing as they are painted once you actually have them in place.

    • @sixszn
      @sixszn 3 роки тому +6

      I also was radicalized by taking a sociology class a few years ago. Sociology should be mandatory!

    • @ayvenray1427
      @ayvenray1427 3 роки тому +7

      @Nova Flares agreed let's not try socialism again. Every time it has been implemented in a nation that nation crashed and burned 🔥.

  • @dylanp_ayz8016
    @dylanp_ayz8016 4 роки тому +704

    Something we failed to mention is how Capitalism literally monetized healthcare.
    Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness (so long as you can afford it).

    • @cubertmiso
      @cubertmiso 4 роки тому +26

      I once believed the same story that market based ecosystem is inherently bad. Then started to read more about the alternatives.
      This video also failed to mention that communism doesn't work on large scale effectively. It only works as an idea. Without logical human game-theory. Sooner or later power concentrates in communism and makes it slow and unable to be effective. End game is that this centralized top-down government starts to fear their own citizens and see them as an enemy and concentrates too much effort to make sure they stay in power. Capitalism is far from optimal but personal incentives and self-regulation are better tools at the bigger scale than small villages.

    • @trapfethen
      @trapfethen 4 роки тому +57

      @@cubertmiso You just described the fall into authoritarianism. Which all forms of government are susceptible to. That isn't unique to communism. It is uniquely defended from BY communism though. Capitalism breeds and encourages individualistic thinking at the expense of the collective. I am more important than WE. Communism on the other hand breeds collective thinking. I am part of WE. This societal mindset is the best defense against authoritarianism regardless of which form of government you have. The only attempted large scale-communistic states have been hamstrung by the US and it's allies through economic warfare.

    • @lehuy7306
      @lehuy7306 4 роки тому +9

      @@cubertmiso I think you still don't understand Communism, it is in theory a state of utopia, no money, no government, everyone works according to their ability and receive according to their needs. "One for all and all for one"

    • @furdie99
      @furdie99 4 роки тому

      Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness *(for all who want it)

    • @domantas3000
      @domantas3000 4 роки тому +4

      How else do you pay doctors, medicine manufacturing, other things of that nature?

  • @Cthulhu4President
    @Cthulhu4President 3 роки тому +636

    "Capitalism will always shoot itself in the foot for short term gains"
    Thank you, I've been saying this for years and having people tell me I'm crazy.

    • @codex8085
      @codex8085 3 роки тому +5

      You couldn't not define capitalism if your life depended on it

    • @somethingsecretsteersus5115
      @somethingsecretsteersus5115 3 роки тому +1

      "Full-mode socialism cant solve even the short term tasks and struggles to gain some food`n`toilet paper, thus is predisposed to be commuted by the so-called "capitalism" again. And again. And again.
      *So called "capitalism" is the condition when one particular man simply dont stole a good produced by another man to declare it "Our common property" and spend, basing on his own desire and fantasy(as far as pure "collective governing" doesnt exist). Any other connotation of that term is not raw and neutral.

    • @somethingsecretsteersus5115
      @somethingsecretsteersus5115 3 роки тому +1

      People conceive "governements" and sign the social contract with Leviathan(omnipresent law and punishment) to get more clarity on the matter of their "property rights". Initially, it was about THIS and, of course, about defending your life from sudden murder. So, one time, when you cross a certain line in central governing of "wealth", you just make the entire concept of Governemnt meaningless.

    • @codex8085
      @codex8085 3 роки тому

      @@somethingsecretsteersus5115 As much as capitalism is a false idea so is socialism. Marketism, monetism, Fascism And Marxist-Fabianism Makes no sense

    • @codex8085
      @codex8085 3 роки тому

      @@somethingsecretsteersus5115 It's the opposite concept to classical liberalism, Classical in The sense of America's founders and locke

  • @LukeMcGuireoides
    @LukeMcGuireoides 3 роки тому +206

    Thomas Senkara...WOW. I cant believe I've never heard of him. What a truly great man. RIP

    • @prophet_master
      @prophet_master 3 роки тому +16

      he really was a great man

    • @1000xtati
      @1000xtati 3 роки тому +9

      What about Gaddafi? Also a revolutionary socialist that was doing good things for his people and was assassinated and his country destroyed by NATO

    • @CMorse-xn3fs
      @CMorse-xn3fs 3 роки тому +2

      @@1000xtati Got a bad rap like every other leader not willing to kiss the west's ring

    • @Smoking_Man
      @Smoking_Man 3 роки тому +2

      @@CMorse-xn3fs not to mention groups like falangists trying to take credit for him

    • @MichouThe
      @MichouThe 2 роки тому

      Blame it in European colonialism

  • @thodkats
    @thodkats 4 роки тому +546

    It’ easier to imagine the end of the world, than the end of capitalism.
    Mark Fisher

    • @comradefreedom8275
      @comradefreedom8275 4 роки тому +8

      Capitalist Realism is a great book.

    • @Yellow.1844
      @Yellow.1844 3 роки тому +2

      RIP good man

    • @sten260
      @sten260 3 роки тому +2

      if there was no capitalism then you might as well kill me

    • @DiMadHatter
      @DiMadHatter 3 роки тому +10

      @@sten260 xD

    • @Yellow.1844
      @Yellow.1844 3 роки тому +30

      @@lpointmpoint3736 theres is no free exchange, I cant buy a nuke or sell drugs to teenagers. Also, there are systems in history where there have been more free exchange, if anything "human nature" is anarchist or tribalism. Also doesn't mean that what is natural is good, disease(earthquakes, flood too) is natural but no one would like their children to get one. Monarchies also claimed to be human nature and god given, its all bullshit. Capitalism is a theory created, nothing natural about that

  • @atomicchicken4453
    @atomicchicken4453 6 місяців тому +9

    Your videos are the only thing that keeps the despair away. Its comforting seeing that im not alone as a socialist.

  • @John-vp2jq
    @John-vp2jq 3 роки тому +1061

    Guaranteed, you are on an FBI watch list somewhere.

    • @JDG-hq8gy
      @JDG-hq8gy 3 роки тому +99

      CIA*

    • @xard4668
      @xard4668 3 роки тому +88

      @@JDG-hq8gy Both

    • @ihazplawe2503
      @ihazplawe2503 3 роки тому +25

      @@JDG-hq8gy He used to be a checklist for someone of the CIA on a podcast

    • @Jorvaskrr
      @Jorvaskrr 3 роки тому +9

      Nah, they let him off the hook because he's a useful idiot for their social engineering projects.

    • @Jargon
      @Jargon 3 роки тому +3

      Good, let them learn something useful for once.

  • @McToaster-o1k
    @McToaster-o1k 4 роки тому +2194

    Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that's why I poop on company time.

    • @kevincrady2831
      @kevincrady2831 4 роки тому +118

      Unless you work for Amazon... :(

    • @prometheus5405
      @prometheus5405 4 роки тому +38

      @@kevincrady2831 Capitalism has many flaws but is infinitely better than the opposite economic alternatives.

    • @prometheus5405
      @prometheus5405 4 роки тому +11

      @@SimGunther Keynesian is the most efficient way, while Marxist-Leninism is reckless & destructive.

    • @jesusiscoming6843
      @jesusiscoming6843 4 роки тому +4

      too bad then youre not smart so you get the dime

    • @McToaster-o1k
      @McToaster-o1k 4 роки тому +49

      @@jesusiscoming6843 Do not underestimate my ability to poop.

  • @sk33t_38
    @sk33t_38 4 роки тому +1402

    "They call it the 'American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it"
    - George Carlin

    • @RipCityBassWorks
      @RipCityBassWorks 4 роки тому +35

      That is so incredibly accurate...

    • @uncleskype9651
      @uncleskype9651 4 роки тому +42

      Depressingly there's a large overlap between people who love Carlin and people who love capitalism. Like, what do you think he meant by criticizing "the system who threw workers overboard thirty f**kin' years ago"??? It's the same people who don't think systemic racism exists but love Dave Chappelle.

    • @Elipilification
      @Elipilification 4 роки тому +2

      So those who claim and/or actually live the American Dream are de-facto asleep? Save catchy proverbs for the kids buddy.

    • @uncleskype9651
      @uncleskype9651 4 роки тому +34

      @@Elipilification "I'm living the American Dream and I'm not asleep. Checkmate, socialists!"

    • @Elipilification
      @Elipilification 4 роки тому +4

      @@uncleskype9651 It's not abut "checkmate socialists" buddy, I am showing you how the original commenter's statement is incorrect. Just because you aren't living the American Dream doesn't mean that nobody is. Yes, I can see how a lot of people aren't and something has to be done about that, but this doesn't mean that nobody is, do you agree or not?

  • @carlmurphy2416
    @carlmurphy2416 10 місяців тому +9

    We live in democracies, but in order to not starve to death, we have to relinquish most of our waking lives to extremely undemocratic institutions.

  • @jimbobhk2009
    @jimbobhk2009 3 роки тому +1288

    This actually made me cry. I’ve become so frustrated by how capitalism and greed has infected once innocent things like cinema, UA-cam, social media and then I find this channel. Thank you for sharing mate.

    • @comradefreedom8275
      @comradefreedom8275 3 роки тому +66

      Replying to help fight the algorithm.

    • @animeepisodes7442
      @animeepisodes7442 3 роки тому +13

      im 99.99999999999% percent sure if you or anyone else here made it as big as Jeff or Elon you would be the same or worse

    • @comradefreedom8275
      @comradefreedom8275 3 роки тому +114

      @@animeepisodes7442 Yeah, so we should dismantle capitalism.

    • @jimbobhk2009
      @jimbobhk2009 3 роки тому +24

      Eeee Yyyy who knows, I know I’ve never been interested in vast amounts of wealth. I’ve never chased the high life. My sister for example worships the kardashians and is addicted to lottery tickets.

    • @americancommunist6076
      @americancommunist6076 3 роки тому +6

      @ashy Completely is the only solution

  • @hunterz1x321
    @hunterz1x321 3 роки тому +2087

    this dude is really making me question everything i was ever taught about socialism and its flipping my world on its head

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  3 роки тому +592

      Glad to hear it!

    • @courtredhanded
      @courtredhanded 3 роки тому +114

      I'm happy to hear this too! :)

    • @guyfauks2576
      @guyfauks2576 3 роки тому +108

      I kind of feel sorry for being so ignorant on it. Sorry second thought

    • @sofakingwetahded9331
      @sofakingwetahded9331 3 роки тому +22

      @@SecondThought what’s your favorite socialist/communist country? If u could come from one, what would it be?

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 3 роки тому +85

      @@sofakingwetahded9331 the ones that aren't sanctioned

  • @DavidWesley
    @DavidWesley 4 роки тому +2956

    You speak with such passion on these topics. :)

    • @cubertmiso
      @cubertmiso 4 роки тому +5

      ua-cam.com/video/7QaZEGcoGXo/v-deo.html Part 2

    • @hbombfreak
      @hbombfreak 4 роки тому +75

      @@PistonAvatarGuy Holy shit how many times do people have to explain it? Norway is NOT socialist. Social Security Nets are NOT socialist economies. Norway today and the US even back then were very pro-free market.
      Socialism is not when the government does stuff. Jesus.

    • @hbombfreak
      @hbombfreak 4 роки тому +10

      @@PistonAvatarGuy Again, Socialism is not when the government does stuff. Practically every country today has embraced some form of Third Way Economics. Hell private consumption in Norway still outmatches public consumption, and even then public enterprises are marketized.

    • @hbombfreak
      @hbombfreak 4 роки тому +6

      @@PistonAvatarGuy THAT’S NOT WHAT A MIXED ECONOMY IS. Have you not taken Econ 1? Capitalism is the state of a full on free-market economy, socialism is the state of a full on command economy, you cannot mix those two states together. Norway no where near PUSHED close to Socialism. Please don’t call yourself a Socialist, Social Democrat fits you so much better if you wanna be like that.

    • @hbombfreak
      @hbombfreak 4 роки тому +6

      @@PistonAvatarGuy Holy fuck you’re LITERALLY just repeating what I’m saying. Most of Norway’s economy and consumption is LITERALLY private. Jesus. No wonder you guys can’t win elections anymore.

  • @JB.zero.zero.1
    @JB.zero.zero.1 Рік тому +12

    You are right about waste in the system.
    I live in a city in the UK, surrounded by retail.
    The waste is horrendous in the city.
    I know for a fact that many big stores just throw things out.
    There are skips all over the place here.
    We have rough sleepers here, it is winter, it's like few people actually care.
    I have nothing much to give, I have no room where I live, and not a lot of money to throw around.
    But there are buildings here, empty ...
    It's overwhelming to be honest and no end in sight.

    • @Destroyer28911
      @Destroyer28911 10 місяців тому

      I am in New Zealand and I see alot of homeless people too :/ it is very sad and they get a lot of shit from the public even when they’re just existing.

  • @bolshevikY2K
    @bolshevikY2K 3 роки тому +730

    I've lived through two "once in a lifetime" economic crashes, within 15 years of each other. I estimate we'll get another one before 2030, maybe 2035 if I'm being generous to the US.

    • @rociomancilla1
      @rociomancilla1 3 роки тому +4

      I have to agree with you.

    • @thomasweir2834
      @thomasweir2834 3 роки тому +80

      It makes my blood boil. Listening to the sneering older generations tell the younger generations that they’ve never had it so good. As they comment from their fourth luxury cruise of the year.

    • @jamesgravil9162
      @jamesgravil9162 3 роки тому +40

      2030? You're being optimistic. The next one will be in the next five years. Possibly sooner.

    • @mxndim
      @mxndim 3 роки тому +20

      Next one will be in 3 years, minimum.
      If it keeps at this rating, capitalism might fall in the next 10-20. And don't forget the climatic changes, that will hit us hard, all around the globe, by 2030, and will be irreversible. I'm from Portugal, born in 2002, from a family that only has till now my sister going to college, my dad with a 7th grade, and my mother who finished high school with low grades, and with a precarized job, and my dad has a taxi driver. We have many problems in our debts and ways of living, and it always annoyed me the fact that they think we can't change the world, and just say "It's life, we need to deal with it". Also, many people reffer Portugal has a "socialist" country, because we mostly had a "socialist" party in power (which isn't a socialist party, but a pure centrist) and a social-democrate (which is actually a liberal-conservative party), but we are a very capitalist one

    • @gregmezera6571
      @gregmezera6571 3 роки тому +13

      Slow down there. We're not even remotely done with the 2nd one.

  • @kevincrady2831
    @kevincrady2831 4 роки тому +585

    Mad Max to Imperator Furiosa: "Sure, we're living in a post-apocalyptic wasteland now, but for awhile there, the Dow was really soaring!"

    • @PresidentialWinner
      @PresidentialWinner 4 роки тому +22

      I am your redeemer! It is by my hand you will rise from the ashes of this world! Do not, my friends, get addicted to water. It will take hold of you, and you will resent it's absence.

    • @bobbyvalverde3863
      @bobbyvalverde3863 4 роки тому

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    • @richardmaclean7581
      @richardmaclean7581 4 роки тому +2

      So Gay is OK

    • @kevincrady2831
      @kevincrady2831 4 роки тому +8

      @@richardmaclean7581 Yes. Yes it is.

    • @kfenstymiller
      @kfenstymiller 4 роки тому +1

      How exactly are we living in a post apocalyptic wasteland exactly? Is it from all the protesters running around destroying shit? Or is it orange man bad, so therefor country bad?

  • @Elidext
    @Elidext 4 роки тому +1310

    "This is Marxism. And Marxism is based on the belief that no person has any value as an individual."
    I fucking burst out laughing lmfaoooo

    • @realsirstar6938
      @realsirstar6938 4 роки тому +254

      "Marxists want to destroy all life as we know it" that was the funniest shit

    • @orionmedivh5859
      @orionmedivh5859 4 роки тому +222

      Capitalism is based on the belief that no person has any value outside a job.

    • @baptizednblood6813
      @baptizednblood6813 4 роки тому +98

      @@Objectivityiskey don’t act like a moron

    • @esbenm6544
      @esbenm6544 4 роки тому +131

      @@Objectivityiskey Don't pretend you read Marx, or that you're even remotely smart enough to know whether he was a moron. You just out yourself as a cretin. Anyone actually able to make an insightful critique of Marx would recognize he clearly was very intelligent, even if they disagree with his conclusions.

    • @mikeoveli1028
      @mikeoveli1028 3 роки тому +36

      @@Objectivityiskey
      That is true.
      Look at Mitt Romney. He spent his career gutting companies.
      Buy the company
      Separate the assets from the losses.
      Fire all of the employees.
      Steal their petition in bankruptcy.
      Walk away with a cool 5 million.
      While 200 families are now out of work.
      Anyone that does that should be in prison not running for president.
      No one is worried about a mom and pop factor. That is capitalism for the people.
      Large corporate raiders are killing Americans.
      Give me any evidence to the contrary.

  • @MohammedOmar-dz3uf
    @MohammedOmar-dz3uf Рік тому +26

    being the most richest and powerful country in the world doesnt really mean much when most of it is in the pockets of like 5 people

    • @ledwysdelgado7304
      @ledwysdelgado7304 Рік тому +2

      The richest country. The U.S. national debt was more than $31.42 trillion in December 2022.

    • @dr-weeb
      @dr-weeb Рік тому

      US has literally negative trade balance, existing only by money printing, thats really concerning

  • @jeanttbs
    @jeanttbs 3 роки тому +814

    You should talk about how the US had ultra socialist policies with immense tax rates for the rich right after WW2, which led to the boomer generation to grow with plenty of social safety nets that helped them gain their wealth and then actively fought to get rid of that system to prevent newer generations from benefiting from it.

    • @AlejandroFernandez-mq3jl
      @AlejandroFernandez-mq3jl 3 роки тому +35

      A fair argument at this point might be if economic intervention is equal to socialism. Of course New Deal's way of capitalism is much less worse than neoliberal policies today but I would say that without abolition of the private property of the means of production it couldn't be called socialism.

    • @jeanttbs
      @jeanttbs 3 роки тому +20

      @@AlejandroFernandez-mq3jl Yeah I'd say I agree with that. Just to add, I believe economic intervention has a socialist principle at it's core. Private property and the capitalist structure of the economy are inherently oppressive systems, therefore they can't be considered socialist. In the meantime, any reform directed towards undermining these oppressive systems could be called socialist but not if they're intended to validate the perpetual existance of said oppresive systems.

    • @gabrielrae7647
      @gabrielrae7647 3 роки тому +2

      Most of those rich you speak of didn't actually pay 90 percent. Plus our spending power is shit now more so than back then

    • @jeanttbs
      @jeanttbs 3 роки тому +4

      @@gabrielrae7647 that's also true today and I'd say that it wasn't to the same extent. It still speaks to a government that attempted to collect more from the rich than they do today. What is your point exactly?

    • @gabrielrae7647
      @gabrielrae7647 3 роки тому +2

      @@jeanttbs the point is that the rich didn't actually do what you claimed led to social safety nets and the boomer generation.

  • @helterskelter9670
    @helterskelter9670 3 роки тому +365

    23:49 As a chilean, seeing La Moneda being bombed in there hit me hard. No matter how many times I've seen that same video, it always gets me. If socialism really is that broken system condemned to fail then why does it need so much help in doing so? Why did the CIA had to spend so much money in our country financing the right wing parties, the fascist guerillas and bribing the truckers to not work? I wish they'd just let us be. I hope they do so with our bolivian brothers who are just recovering from a similar situation. Also, long live the likes of Thomas Sankara or Salvador Allende, they are truly inspiring people.

    • @javierrodriguez4218
      @javierrodriguez4218 3 роки тому +47

      I feel you, from Argentina. In the 70s and 80s, our US-sponsored dictatorship's sole purpose was to "end the communist threat" that is, to disappear, torture and rape anyone having socialist thoughts. The IMF loaned huge amounts of money to the dictators, indebting all of us for generations to come. I hope people from the US gain consciousness so we can all start making a better future.

    • @maximiliensanchez2026
      @maximiliensanchez2026 3 роки тому +21

      Hasta la victoria siempre hermanos

    • @baruchespinoza6703
      @baruchespinoza6703 2 роки тому +37

      "If socialism really is that broken system condemned to fail then why does it need so much help in doing so?"
      - A wise dude on the internet

    • @yourdoppelganger
      @yourdoppelganger 2 роки тому

      @@javierrodriguez4218
      USA only exists because of capitalism, without it the entire United States will crack like the ussr, plus socialists actually just do the same after they got their dudes on the seats of the senates or whatever you call it. This is what the bitter truth looks like, socialism and capitalism are all imperfect

    • @javierrodriguez4218
      @javierrodriguez4218 2 роки тому +4

      @@yourdoppelganger I'm not sure what your point is. Are you justifying what the US does? Do you think there's no point in trying to change things?

  • @lostsoul3615
    @lostsoul3615 3 роки тому +206

    "an economic system is just one way to structure the monetary relations of a country, it's not a national culture" say it LOUDER for the people in the back

    • @vinniegh1961
      @vinniegh1961 3 роки тому +1

      But it is do

    • @hansngilbert3745
      @hansngilbert3745 3 роки тому +1

      capitalism influecnes everything, so it has made itself into american identity and culture. Base and superstructure, the base is economics, it influences everything else.

    • @felipeluna.
      @felipeluna. 3 роки тому

      Well, it's very complex and difficult to pin down but correct me if I'm wrong about this: You think trade doesn't influence culture right?

    • @darkwolf4434
      @darkwolf4434 2 роки тому

      Then make a new system that works better. Socialism doesn't work. That's why the socialists like Hasan Piker and second thought who tells me how horrible my life is as a worker as if I can't think of that myself. Their solution is that we should just let everyone do what they like and it will just work somehow.

    • @lostsoul3615
      @lostsoul3615 2 роки тому +1

      @@darkwolf4434 That is exactly what I am working on, as an economist its important to separate yourself from a system that is inherently flawed and instead work on solutions

  • @j.arelylopez3053
    @j.arelylopez3053 11 місяців тому +7

    A great line you said was “capitalist countries won’t let socialism work” so interesting.

    • @BingusLover45
      @BingusLover45 10 місяців тому +1

      And completely true. The US is the #1 reason socialism and communism is so hated (pol pot was funded by the US)

    • @tennese117
      @tennese117 2 місяці тому

      @@BingusLover45 Yeah because if America's interests doesn't align with them then that must mean that they are violating their people's liberties and that they are doing horrible things.

  • @aalex100
    @aalex100 4 роки тому +562

    Last time I was this early, USSR was still a thing

  • @Dan-bv8ne
    @Dan-bv8ne 4 роки тому +698

    "The only reason i am able to support myself now is because i got lucky"
    So many people who argue against socialism cannot accept that fact for themselves...

    • @comradefreedom8275
      @comradefreedom8275 4 роки тому +20

      Exactly true.

    • @nadeoki
      @nadeoki 4 роки тому +35

      These are the same people that "Thank god" upon achieving anything.
      There's a big disregard for the effort it takes to grow a business in the minds of american working class I think.

    • @dinnerwithfranklin
      @dinnerwithfranklin 4 роки тому +3

      You are so right and have vested interests in refusing to recognize that fact

    • @Dan-bv8ne
      @Dan-bv8ne 4 роки тому +16

      @@nadeoki I totally agree about the god thing, i think its disrespectfull towards ones supportsystems (and even gods creation and therefor god himself) to always just "thank god" for all the great things that happened, even as a catholic- if god gave us free will it is individuals choosing to be generous, friends, help and support to gain way bigger chances to create success.
      And again, basically refusing to admit beeing kinda lucky in many ways.( just had to think about Stephen Colbert (60 mil.$) thanking god all the time...)

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 4 роки тому +13

      that's where the perfect world fallacy comes in
      they act like it's everyone's karmic destiny to end up wherever they end up

  • @colonelcactus2462
    @colonelcactus2462 4 роки тому +2048

    Damn. As someone who used to be very pro-capitalism, this video is a wake up call. this is a great video. Thank you.

    • @GenocideWesterners
      @GenocideWesterners 4 роки тому +288

      Welcome to the right side of history. Capitalism is destined to fail

    • @caraxes_noodleboi
      @caraxes_noodleboi 4 роки тому +306

      Co-operation is human nature. We owe Capitalism nothing. It has served its purpose. When it came in it was revolutionary but it is now stagnant due to its inner contradictions like feudalism was. Its simply time move into an era of cooperation and need based humane system.

    • @muffinmendy7327
      @muffinmendy7327 4 роки тому +15

      Do whatever just watch out for the Manny corrupt party's like the social-demokrstic workers party of Sweden they are really just mild capitalists that try to squeeze profits

    • @NoahAbrams01
      @NoahAbrams01 4 роки тому +17

      I'm a little careful to trust assertions being made when a lot of the information its built upon is demonstrally false. I mean he builds his argument on the claim that depressions are caused by people "being squeezed" after "prices go up and wages go down." it doesnt take much research to find out that wages increase during expansions and decrease during recessions. I would counter this information by looking at Ray Dalio's widely popular UA-cam video that explains debt cycles and how they're responsible for economic cycles.

    • @michaelbizzarro624
      @michaelbizzarro624 4 роки тому +6

      I also recommend renegade cut

  • @cursedcat6467
    @cursedcat6467 2 роки тому +8

    “It’s like the American dream but real” you could’ve literally ended the video right there and the video would make sense

  • @diegoarmando5489
    @diegoarmando5489 4 роки тому +2449

    Hopefully the CIA doesn't poison this video like they poisoned Hugo Chavez.

    • @locrick4172
      @locrick4172 4 роки тому +45

      Well they did well with Hugo

    • @amithsaligrama7429
      @amithsaligrama7429 4 роки тому +34

      also like how they poisoned his other video about them...

    • @QuantumOfSilence
      @QuantumOfSilence 4 роки тому +49

      I expect Second Thought will go missing soon.

    • @unknownentity8256
      @unknownentity8256 4 роки тому +36

      They already shadow banned his video on the CIA.

    • @deltabeta5527
      @deltabeta5527 4 роки тому +8

      They have poisoned this video ua-cam.com/video/_2khAmMTAjI/v-deo.html

  • @motwitch6374
    @motwitch6374 4 роки тому +1085

    Damn, so I`m actually not the only one that feels like there`s a growing hate against capitalism and that change might happen within our lifetime

    • @autumnox2174
      @autumnox2174 4 роки тому +112

      I don't know how much this contributes, but as an American teenager, many of the other kids I know are very much anti-capitalist to varying degrees. That being said, I do see that the red fear that's been ingrained into us since we were little still having effect. Despite never agreeing with the ethics of capitalism, I still found myself for years trying to convince myself I wasn't a socialist; I've gotten over that now, mostly, but I still catch myself trying to align my thoughts with what I've been baby birded as 'good' despite knowing that in reality, it isn't.

    • @Lucan47
      @Lucan47 4 роки тому +22

      @@kalleranta2260 I'm starting to believe Peace is just another illusion, and it will be for as long as we are irrational animals.
      And if peace is unattainable in our lifetimes, perhaps the proper angle is to ask ourselves *who* should we be waging war against?

    • @autumnox2174
      @autumnox2174 4 роки тому +33

      @@Lucan47 I can't say I agree to that. Why do wars happen? Because a need for resources, because a group if bigoted against another, things like that. Bigotry is taught and something that can be eradicated, left to the sand of times. Resource wars mostly come about because Group A has something Group B wants, but doesn't have access to - again, the behavior of Group A is not a product of nature, it is in defiance of our nature as social creatures who, for as long as we don't have our empathy crushed by a culture -which is sadly common-, want to help each other.

    • @sasanr1
      @sasanr1 4 роки тому +6

      @@autumnox2174 culture has made us and or mentality but it's you and me who create the society , it's not just about war, conflict & aggression on daily bases come out of our separation which in national or tribal lvl brings about wars , it's in our daily life between all of us , me verses others ,my belief my opinion my nationality my values .... Everything that self is made from , leads to separation so conflict is always inevitable , the only way that conflicts end is that every human understand that we're all one humanity and self is just byproduct of thought and ideas , only then love and compassion can be ,and brings about fundamental change in our consciousness

    • @mikeoveli1028
      @mikeoveli1028 3 роки тому +2

      @@Lucan47
      Peace is like any goal. You have to work for it.
      The G-7 needs to stop making and selling weapons.
      When two countries in the world decide to go to war the G-7 steps in and Cuts off all support.
      Everyone is afraid and that is what war is about.

  • @gen_li7725
    @gen_li7725 2 роки тому +501

    Whenever I talk to people about socialism, they tell me it’s never really worked before. But now thanks to you have have a better understanding of the cases where it has worked. As I listened to your video, I looked up things on my own. The differences in the way American and British media outlets speak about these leaders versus other sources is mind boggling. I’ve been a socialist for a while but I’m only recently learning about how much work the us puts in to keep its citizens unaware of other options. The veil continues to lift.

    • @Rain_Addict0
      @Rain_Addict0 2 роки тому

      Nothing ever works - not because the system per say is bad or incapable of achieving something. It's us - humans. The unconscious drive everyone has with the greed and how corruption will always exist, thus no system will ever work. It's all just a cute little dream.

    • @Eldritch_O66
      @Eldritch_O66 Рік тому

      The reason why it has never work is either because foreign interference (he's discussed this in another one of his videos) or autocratic governments (dictatorships, to be exact,) lie to people, seize all control, and parade around as something that they are not. And that is what people who trash socialism don't understand.

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 Рік тому +29

      I think it's also important though to learn from the failures of socialism. I would say one of the biggest of the Soviet Union (Beyond the police state and autocratic rule but that's obvious) is the anti-religious rethoric. It made them a lot of enemies in other countries especially America and the association of socialism with an attack on Christianity is still here.
      However socialism and Christianity are not incompatible, they actually compliment each other. What the Soviets should have done is channel Orthodox Christianity and make it central to socialism itself. Of course impliment religious freedom but also frame it as a moral right and moral duty to provide for your fellow man like Jesus wanted you to.
      It's why China is being so succesful as they don't hold on to socialism's flaws out of dogma but actually change it according to their needs. Capitalism in the 19th century was very different from today and socialism needs to evolve as well.
      We need to keep in mind that the biggest thing are the core values, the actual specifics can and should change depending on the situation.

    • @annaantoinette
      @annaantoinette Рік тому +27

      @@MrMarinus18 i think the seperation of church and state should be a big thing tho. Of course, there should be religious freedom, for ALL. That means, no Religion is seen as more accepted than the other, and EVERYONE has the right to practice their religion, as long as it doesn't harm others. Having a whole economic system supporting just ONE religion, that would be a bit much, no?

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 Рік тому +2

      @@annaantoinette I view the seperation of church and state very similarly to the seperation of corporation and state.

  • @rachelprat-fp5sm
    @rachelprat-fp5sm Рік тому +55

    this makes me so mad why can’t we just make the choice to care about one another

    • @MckensyLong
      @MckensyLong Рік тому +8

      There's 2 beliefs: 1. You take care of me and Ill take care of you - Socialism, 2. Ill take care of me for you, and you take care of you for me - Capitalism.
      Where people say "why cant we choose to take care about one another." is usually when they choose not to take care of themselves and depend on someone else to take care of them. That's not compassion.
      The real challenge is 'care' can mean different things. Do we let the individual choose how much or little they should have OR do we let the government tell us how much or little we should have. If you look at Cuba, they care very little for their people. They limit how much food you are allowed to buy (assuming you have the money.)
      In Cuba It's illegal to kill and eat your own cow. It's illegal to sell things to make money. Why? Because the government has already decided the care you deserve. Their leader recently said, "All you need is lemonade." You don't need food, running water or electricity... just lemonade. Of course the government officials sit high and mighty with everything they want and need. They are allowed 4 eggs per person per month, a few cups of rice, and 1lb of chicken (which you still have to pay for). Why? Because THE GOVERNMENT is taking care of you and they determine what you should have. They have free health care, but no medications and no pain killers and only the doctors that cannot flee stay. They will let you die in the street. They will let you starve to death.
      If you own something, they take it. Start a business that's profitable? They take it and make you an employee.
      The homeless people in America are better off than the vast majority of people living in Cuba today.
      When the people revolted a few months ago, they were shot in the street by the government. The people have no guns to overturn the government so they are forced to starve. The government controlled the narrative and shut down the internet. The protesters were murdered, and the government called anyone that told the truth a liar. If a citizen pushed back too hard, them and their family disappeared.
      Greed doesn't go away in a socialist society. We get to pick. Greed in the hands of corporations where we can at least vote with our $ - Capitalism, Or greed in the hands of the government with all the guns - Socialism.
      The only people who possibly believe in socialism are the ones who have never seen it and believe the theories over the reality.

    • @georgepresley5120
      @georgepresley5120 Рік тому +6

      @@MckensyLong socialism can be reformed and made to work.if the US doesn't meddle I believe it can work. Greed and the mantra everyone for himself will make a society that is not only unequal but dangerous for people who are poor

    • @MckensyLong
      @MckensyLong Рік тому

      @georgepresley5120 same is true for socialism... except everyone is poor and no one has a vehicle to build wealth.
      Try Cuba. It's not far. $30mo in income. 1 lb of meat is $15.
      Everyone is poor. Government controls everything. Side hustles are illegal. You own nothing.
      The only difference it makes is the greed is in the government (they have guns) instead of the companies (they don't have guns). Governments can force you to buy from them, companies cannot.
      I'll take greed without the guns, please.
      I just wish people had to TRY socialism for 1 year before they got to vote for it.

    • @draekalloy3673
      @draekalloy3673 Рік тому

      ​​@@MckensyLongyou are spewing misinformation. Why do you think the government of Cuba has to ration food? Perhaps it's due to the illegal and undemocratic sanctions placed upon Cuba by some overarching superpower in close vicinity?

    • @baore2422
      @baore2422 10 місяців тому +1

      @@georgepresley5120That has been the idea behind every socialist revolution. That “this time it’s different.” There will always be greedy people looking to take advantage of the system. In capitalism it’s the ownership class. In socialism it’s the ones deciding how resources are allocated.

  • @josephwoen6947
    @josephwoen6947 4 роки тому +483

    here before youtube demonetize this video

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  4 роки тому +231

      I would love to make some money on this one considering how long it took to make. Fingers crossed!

    • @BrandonWheelr
      @BrandonWheelr 4 роки тому +20

      $5 a month goes a long way to giving UA-cam the middle finger and helping capture hearts and minds for this much-needed revolution.

    • @sipps6557
      @sipps6557 4 роки тому +3

      UA-cam won't demonetize this video. They may be rich bastards but they agree.

    • @postyoda
      @postyoda 4 роки тому

      @@SecondThought I just learned this, kind of mind-blowing for me: ua-cam.com/video/42_-ALNwpUo/v-deo.html

    • @FNLNFNLN
      @FNLNFNLN 4 роки тому +1

      I'm pretty sure his entire account is demonetized at this point.

  • @CThienV
    @CThienV 3 роки тому +351

    There's enough in this world for everyone's needs. But not enough for one mans greed.

    • @michealforguson5317
      @michealforguson5317 3 роки тому +1

      Anyone ever asked you what the Deadliest Sin was?
      When I asked that, I answered two things. First, I said it was a person to person thing. Some will say Arrogance or Gluttony. I said Greed. The emotion of "Whatever "it" is, I want it!" This is especially true when someone doesn't need to acquire any more than they already have and someone else might benefit from getting the thing that they want more. Now Greed is often attributed to Money, but that's just one of the many things that a person can take more than what they need.

    • @MrAnibl
      @MrAnibl 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah and once people have their needs met they will want more.

    • @KarlMarxFanClub
      @KarlMarxFanClub 2 роки тому

      The belly is never full.

  • @cameronshank6081
    @cameronshank6081 3 роки тому +386

    It’s called the American dream because you have to be asleep to achieve it- George Carlin

    • @droidnautica
      @droidnautica 3 роки тому +25

      @@shannonossman3473 i mean, it is true though, so not so horrible.

    • @droidnautica
      @droidnautica 3 роки тому +29

      @@shannonossman3473 care to explain?

    • @davidsilverfield835
      @davidsilverfield835 3 роки тому

      Agreed lol

    • @ravageroosgamecorner543
      @ravageroosgamecorner543 3 роки тому +9

      *You have to be asleep to believe it* I had to correct it since context is everything.

    • @haroldinho9930
      @haroldinho9930 3 роки тому

      @@ravageroosgamecorner543 yes

  • @robertash5766
    @robertash5766 2 роки тому +10

    These are very good videos. I will be sharing them regularly. Really packed with information, well organized, and and great delivery.

    • @Eduardogiven
      @Eduardogiven Рік тому +1

      Great Video right?, come to Venezuela and enjoy socialism, I can tell you now this video is what they told us back in 97. The exact same thing. Its like its written by the same person.

    • @Timroad
      @Timroad 11 місяців тому

      I come from Vietnam and believe me, Socialism is a tool of collective exploitation and will only bring eternal poverty. Vietnam and China are currently following a Capitalist economy. But our country still has only one Communist Party, full of corruption and people like me have no voice.

    • @Timroad
      @Timroad 11 місяців тому

      I come from Vietnam and believe me, Socialism is a tool of collective exploitation and will only bring eternal poverty. Vietnam and China are currently following a Capitalist economy. But our country still has only one Communist Party, full of corruption and people like me have no voice.

  • @schrodingerskatze6192
    @schrodingerskatze6192 3 роки тому +423

    Hearing the average worker vigorously defend capitalism in the hopes of one day being rich themselves, always gives me Stockholm syndrome vibes.

    • @lzrrrrr3370
      @lzrrrrr3370 3 роки тому +12

      Yet most people supporting socialism are uneducated

    • @BarrySlisk
      @BarrySlisk 3 роки тому +15

      @@OzCroc
      "college/university educated"
      That not education. That's misinformed.

    • @OzCroc
      @OzCroc 3 роки тому +82

      @@BarrySlisk Okay what is education then? Some Facebook post saying "capitalism good, socialism bad"?

    • @gabrielmoreira5580
      @gabrielmoreira5580 3 роки тому +54

      @@lzrrrrr3370 Most of the socialists I know are actually quite educated and are not poor contrary to your beliefs. Most of them attribute their success in life to their education and to the fact that unlike in America we can go to the doctor without getting into debt. Loool

    • @scottireland5414
      @scottireland5414 3 роки тому +7

      @@gabrielmoreira5580 The intellectual socialists you refer to, will be the first to be liquidated by the inner circle of Marxists after the seizing of power. Read the first two chapters in "Urgent Fury, The Battle for Grenada", by Mark Adkin. Bishop and Coard agreed on the same agenda yet Bishop had Coard killed as soon as the opportunity presented itself. If you are a socialist don't worry about the reactionaries. Worry about your comrades sneaking up behind you. It's all about absolute control of the people. Only the ruthless will be at the top of the socialist/Marxist pyramid. The ideological socialists will not survive the journey. Ask Trotsky.

  • @QueezTheDefiantScientist
    @QueezTheDefiantScientist Рік тому +21

    This video made me cry, please be careful dude this stuff is legitimately infuriating and moving, this is just what some people need to see for this change to finally begin

  • @SirJohnCalzone
    @SirJohnCalzone 4 роки тому +137

    The parts about Bolivia and Burkina Faso literally made my jaw drop. Thank you for making these videos man, they're one of my weekly highlights!

    • @Ari-nw3qy
      @Ari-nw3qy 4 роки тому +5

      Oh, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Almost everywhere in Latin America, Africa, the Middle East, and certain parts of Asia have experimented with some form of socialism at one point or another.

    • @fabiofernandez4265
      @fabiofernandez4265 4 роки тому

      @@Ari-nw3qy Yes and every country in a very different way, so they have an extremely different perception of comunism and socialism.

  • @Jamshidnazar
    @Jamshidnazar 4 роки тому +212

    "Contrapoints is the biggest channel in breadtube"
    " No, there is another"

    • @jeffersonclippership2588
      @jeffersonclippership2588 4 роки тому +61

      It's not really breadtube unless it's presented by a bisexual theater kid who uploads every three months
      I love Natalie that was just a joke

    • @Laffey16
      @Laffey16 4 роки тому +20

      @@jeffersonclippership2588 Philosophy tube?

    • @jeffersonclippership2588
      @jeffersonclippership2588 4 роки тому +14

      @@Laffey16 lol yeah, Ollie is great too. Just wish everyone didn't feel the need to copy him and Natalie.

    • @pedrotirb
      @pedrotirb 4 роки тому +26

      I don’t really see the point in “competing” for being the biggest channel. That’s what communism is about: collaborating. From my point of view, it is not only pointless to compete but also distracting from achieving the goal to make most people’s lives better.

    • @theunknownpersonism
      @theunknownpersonism 4 роки тому

      This channel is better as this one looks professional.

  • @DragonFury4250
    @DragonFury4250 Рік тому +8

    "If you compare the lies of many, eventually you'll discover the truth that they tried so hard to silence."
    I don't remember where I heard this, but it is something I think about often.

  • @1myfriendjohn
    @1myfriendjohn 4 роки тому +201

    Here in the UK most supermarkets now give the food to charities. This was after they got called out for dumping good food.

    • @everythingwillbe6904
      @everythingwillbe6904 3 роки тому +3

      Same in France

    • @everythingwillbe6904
      @everythingwillbe6904 3 роки тому +12

      I hope more countries do the same

    • @Krystalmyth
      @Krystalmyth 3 роки тому +3

      How do they distribute it? Do they drive it or make it something to be picked up?
      Honestly with today's food delivery, this shouldn't be a problem. Anyone with a car has a job in this world if we began to actually care about this.

    • @1myfriendjohn
      @1myfriendjohn 3 роки тому +10

      @@Krystalmyth they invite the food banks to pick it up. Then it doesn't cost them anything other than space

    • @jamesgravil9162
      @jamesgravil9162 3 роки тому +10

      @@Krystalmyth I work in a supermarket, we have somebody come from a food bank to collect our waste at the end of every shift. Well, most shifts. A lot of stuff still gets thrown away, sadly.

  • @ocean6828
    @ocean6828 4 роки тому +169

    I have decided that my dog is a communist because today I asked him if he wanted to seize the means of production for the working class, and he wagged his tail.

    • @osmark86
      @osmark86 4 роки тому +15

      Good dog

    • @ocean6828
      @ocean6828 4 роки тому +3

      @@osmark86 lmao

    • @marioncoutts1541
      @marioncoutts1541 4 роки тому +7

      It must be laika

    • @sten260
      @sten260 3 роки тому

      what the fuck that means, seize the production for the working class?

    • @DiMadHatter
      @DiMadHatter 3 роки тому +6

      @@sten260 that means democratizing the economy, the production, the distribution, etc. Instead of having certain individuals (capitalists) act like dictators and doing what they want.
      Power to the workers

  • @jmoe5921
    @jmoe5921 4 роки тому +253

    Watching Second Thoughts feed this year is chefs kiss.

    • @jonathanwilson5355
      @jonathanwilson5355 4 роки тому +2

      Agreed.

    • @Olivia-pj6fw
      @Olivia-pj6fw 4 роки тому +9

      Agreed! When I try to explain my political views to my family I offen use these videos as a reference and starting point.

    • @jonathanwilson5355
      @jonathanwilson5355 4 роки тому +2

      @@Olivia-pj6fw yes!! So do I!!

    • @Olivia-pj6fw
      @Olivia-pj6fw 4 роки тому +12

      @@jonathanwilson5355 Second Thought breaks everything down so intelligently! My family is all over the place politically and I'm the only one who supports socialism to this extent. I hope I'm at least making them think twice about the status quo.

    • @StopCopCity1312
      @StopCopCity1312 4 роки тому

      +

  • @ALaughingMan
    @ALaughingMan 2 місяці тому +5

    For all the poor and working class people who call themselves capitalists, remember: You are not a capitalist if you don't own any capital. (And you likely never will).

  • @smhsophie
    @smhsophie 4 роки тому +527

    Finally, Second Thought unveils his true power level

    • @gae0tic
      @gae0tic 4 роки тому +16

      It's over 9000 (likes)

    • @comradefreedom8275
      @comradefreedom8275 4 роки тому +29

      It's based and breadpilled.

    • @talhahtaco2035
      @talhahtaco2035 4 роки тому

      @@comradefreedom8275 what is it based on?

    • @comradefreedom8275
      @comradefreedom8275 4 роки тому +28

      @@talhahtaco2035 On creating a better world.

    • @brettmcclain9289
      @brettmcclain9289 4 роки тому +5

      Most of his arguments against capitalism has been disproven 75 years ago by Ludwig Von Mises. Most of his critiques of capitalism really is a critique of interventionism and rent seeking. This really isn’t a power level as you could see people saying the same thing at least 75 years ago. He has a poor understanding of what markets really are.

  • @Lord_Escanor_Sama
    @Lord_Escanor_Sama 2 роки тому +272

    Since I came to US, I’ve never heard anyone telling this much truth and reality as I heard in this video.

    • @mdaniels6311
      @mdaniels6311 2 роки тому

      America suffers with a collective delusion.. that capitalism is good for them. (spoiler alert: it isnt)

    • @blackmanbo1235
      @blackmanbo1235 Рік тому

      where were you from?

    • @jasonlacroix6083
      @jasonlacroix6083 Рік тому +4

      @@blackmanbo1235 anywhere, planet earth

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch Рік тому

      America is a lie, first and foremost.

    • @42carlos
      @42carlos Рік тому

      Who's stopping you from coming back to Russia, China, North Korea and having a jolly ol' socialist time?

  • @joeallen9104
    @joeallen9104 3 роки тому +153

    For a long time I thought I was a centrist, this video made me realise how far left my views actually are.

    • @racewiththefalcons1
      @racewiththefalcons1 3 роки тому +27

      I am going to argue that you are probably still a centrist. The far left is people like Che Guevara and Carlos the Jackal, who violently oppose capitalism and imperialism with literal deadly force. Wanting workers to be paid what their labor is worth and give food to hungry people is as dead centrist as you can get.

    • @albertoencinar95
      @albertoencinar95 3 роки тому +2

      Marxism has never been leftism thats a liberal term , marxism its outside of left or right .

    • @h3nder
      @h3nder 3 роки тому +5

      Centrism doesn't exist.
      Also the Political compass is bs.
      You have the left with Marxism-Leninism and its derived from thoughts (Maoism, Hoxhaism etc), and Anarchism and its derived thoughts

    • @h3nder
      @h3nder 3 роки тому +10

      @Darklorddestroyer14 Centrism doesn't exist because you have to either have capitalism, or socialism(or degrade further back from captialism), it's simple.\
      Market Socialism is still Socialism and Social Democracy is still capitalism.

    • @tristenquijano5643
      @tristenquijano5643 3 роки тому

      @@h3nder like there is no year 0? or something like that? Neat

  • @pangeaforever
    @pangeaforever 3 місяці тому +2

    One of the biggest problems is people shooting it down without even understanding it. Very sad

  • @muditunderscore
    @muditunderscore 4 роки тому +418

    i'm yet to find an argument against socialism that isn't one of:
    • a huge misconception
    • conjecture
    • attacking a strawman

    • @mingmingandmikki
      @mingmingandmikki 4 роки тому +102

      @@epicjohnny4831 capitalism is also stealing

    • @Nicklas25_DK
      @Nicklas25_DK 4 роки тому +3

      It removes your freedom of being free from the state. Some people value that freedom a lot.

    • @Ahmad-fq5eh
      @Ahmad-fq5eh 4 роки тому +63

      @@mindblade101 you realize this is a straw argument as well, right?

    • @CuantumQ
      @CuantumQ 4 роки тому +48

      @@mindblade101 So,,, You're going to make a blanket statement about people fleeing socialist countries ignoring the examples given in the video of people being happier in socialist countries before capitalist countries took over?

    • @motazfawzi2504
      @motazfawzi2504 4 роки тому +33

      @@mindblade101
      Were they under rightous true-to-the-word socialist contries or a pretemding dictatorship? just asking.

  • @noone-um4hk
    @noone-um4hk 2 роки тому +493

    been watching alot of your videos lately. I grew up in a religious/republican household, my dad was a marine and I even did 10 years in the military myself, so pretty much as conservative upbringing/life style as it gets. Starting to seriously rethink all the views I've held my entire life...

    • @volume163
      @volume163 2 роки тому +1

      I grew out of the dogma of the United States that is so drenched in all of society about a year+ ago. When I did, I started to realize how many lies, propaganda, and mischaracterizations of Marxism, Socialism, Communism, and anarchism is in this country. How many famous people in world history were white washed and omitting facts about their socialist beliefs. How much more there is to economy than what is presented in school and the media.

    • @cherrybumman541
      @cherrybumman541 2 роки тому +36

      Glad to hear man that’s awesome

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 2 роки тому +12

      @@Totalitarianizer leftist? So your response is to go from one extreme to the other? How often is that a good solution to any problem?

    • @kidnameless
      @kidnameless 2 роки тому +2

      @@jasondashney I don’t know about you, but to me, going from the wrong extreme to the right extreme sounds like the objectively moral thing to do. Centrist garbage that suggests the merit of “both sides,” and that ultimately serves to uphold an unfair status quo, *is not* the solution. It’s an apathetic and lazy worldview.
      If centrism or moderate political stances largely benefit one side of a divide, make no mistake - they are extreme positions to take in and of themselves. Identifying yourself as such is just a cowardly way to try and avoid justified criticism for perpetuating many of the same societal issues as the right-wing extremists you try to separate yourself from. The only real difference is that they’re at least willing to admit it.

    • @LionsMayday
      @LionsMayday 2 роки тому +68

      @@jasondashney Going to far right means serving corporate political interests by sacrficing humanity, peoples lives, creating endless conflicts and lead humanity to extinction to let profit only very few people or going far left to serve people and humanity, establishing cooperations, saving environment, building brighter future and fighting for what is right.

  • @AmanirenaII
    @AmanirenaII 4 роки тому +447

    Yay, hella early for the first time! Why do people try to criticize socialism by attributing the characteristics of capitalism to it?? They're very confused me thinks.

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  4 роки тому +254

      Decades of propaganda

    • @emperorvalkorion489
      @emperorvalkorion489 4 роки тому +12

      They don't. Socialism is wrong, because the labor theory of value, the basis of Marxism is inherently flawed. The subjective theory of value is correct. Labor has no inherent value, value in the market is determined subjectively. Because Marx's labor theory of value is wrong, thus his entire theory of exploitation collapses.

    • @glitchyfruit2503
      @glitchyfruit2503 4 роки тому +63

      @@emperorvalkorion489 I don’t think you understand with the labour theory of value means

    • @kaydenl6836
      @kaydenl6836 4 роки тому +76

      @@emperorvalkorion489
      You have provided no reason why his theory of value is wrong and you also do not understand the fundamentals of socialism because that is not what it is based off of. It’s actually more so based off of the workers owning in democratically controlling the means of production. Which easily can and does exist within a market economy. Even if the market determines the value of your labor, ie the profit of your labor, under capitalism you do not receive the full value of that profit. Your boss takes a majority of it for simply owning the company, not for working. Under socialism, you ARE your boss, along w/ everyone else in the company is theirs’, as you all own the company. This system already exists in our world, it’s called a worker co-op. Richard Wolff, an economic professor, has had many great lectures on it you can look up

    • @cameosix7077
      @cameosix7077 4 роки тому +13

      @@emperorvalkorion489 No we, don't work on theories look around you Capitalism has failed and what he said is a solution that's all that matters

  • @Primus-ow2fy
    @Primus-ow2fy 2 роки тому +10

    "The world has enough for everyone's needs, but not everyone's greed," Mahatma Gandhi

  • @fedpoulton
    @fedpoulton 4 роки тому +66

    That was the best explanation of socialism I've heard in a long time. Just today, I tried to explain to a poor person who has always voted for capitalism why they were wrong. I wish I'd known about this film, so I could've put her on the right path. I fear that the rich have so much power now that we're fighting a losing battle but I am glad to see that more people are realizing the truth of what is happening in America and Britain and other capitalist countries around the world. Keep up the good work.

    • @truecatholic8692
      @truecatholic8692 3 роки тому +1

      socialism always fails

    • @AngryPostmanStockholm
      @AngryPostmanStockholm 3 роки тому +1

      Amen fellow human

    • @truecatholic8692
      @truecatholic8692 3 роки тому

      Capitalism and the free market have raised billions of people out of poverty, and provided us with expanded lifespans and the technology we have today. And that's just a few highlights. Meanwhile, socialism/communism (pretty much same thing) have kept people in misery.

    • @catrielmarignaclionti4518
      @catrielmarignaclionti4518 3 роки тому +6

      @@truecatholic8692 the tech form today has been desing by the military funds, check your sources bro. The USSR send the first man, the first woman, the first dog and the first satelite to space. The vaccine for the polio was never pattented, so more people could use it, tech arised despite capitalism, not bc of it.

    • @fedpoulton
      @fedpoulton 3 роки тому +1

      @@truecatholic8692 I sorry mate but you could not be more wrong. Extreme socialism is just as bad as Extreme capitalism. So you create social democracy like the Scandinavian countries, where there is 100% literacy, low unemployment, low crime rates, low levels of teenage pregnancy, low recidivism and they regularly top the worlds happiest countries tables.

  • @nataschavisser573
    @nataschavisser573 4 роки тому +77

    Anyone who studied economic history in any detail knows that free market capitalism is more or less not a thing that actually exist.

    • @aycc-nbh7289
      @aycc-nbh7289 4 роки тому +10

      My economics professor has said that the free market can’t be truly free, but it must have rules. Otherwise, “corporate socialism” could ensue (my words, not his).

    • @frigginjerk
      @frigginjerk 4 роки тому +13

      It's paradoxical in a way. If there were truly no rules and you wanted to keep it that way, you'd have to establish a rule saying that it's gonna stay that way. It's like that "this sentence is false" brain-teaser thing.
      Or the other way to look at it is that the entirety of human history is "free market," in the sense that governments and laws are just things people have mostly agreed to. They're not exactly on the same level as natural laws-- I mean, try staging a coup against gravity. So people are free to set up governments, give them authority to create laws, and hold the capitalists accountable to them. There's nothing saying it absolutely has to be that way, or any other way, for that matter. This just how a bunch of individual people's actions have added up. Very similar to the way that supply-and-demand sets a market price.

    • @alveolate
      @alveolate 4 роки тому +1

      @@frigginjerk not sure where you were going with the high-concept analogies, but the ideal "free market" in economics mostly refers to "no barriers to entry", "perfect competition", "perfect information", and a bunch of rather unrealistic philosophical theories. in practice, every market has some barriers to entry, some far more substantial than others. there is practically no such thing as perfect competition or perfect information, and indeed, most profits come from abusing one's advantage in competition or information. even supply/demand curves almost never meet at a "natural" price point.
      on the other hand, economic theory isn't meant to reflect reality in exact terms, but to provide concepts and frameworks with which to better understand how economics works. that however, does not preclude economic conservatives from preaching catchphrases like "regulations hurt the economy" or "corporate rights", which are neither true nor reasonable.
      sidebar, i think what you mean by "free market" is probably 'social contract' - of which, the rules pertaining to the economy are one such example. social contracts are also a theoretical concept that does not involve actual lawyers drawing up contracts; yet when certain social contracts are institutionally formalised (say, in a constitution or legal bill), then an authority can be formed to enforce the terms of that 'social contract' - which by then would be called 'law'. in short, social contracts are informal agreements between groups of people that help maintain a certain standard of expectation, thus avoiding outright chaos. the 'free market' is one type of social contract.

    • @vod96
      @vod96 4 роки тому +3

      I don't know one sane person that advocates for a completely unregulated system

    • @phiksit
      @phiksit 4 роки тому +2

      I believe the closest thing to an unregulated "free market" would be libertarianism and that is definitely one economic model we have zero evidence could work, expect for the rich and powerful. But many on the right love the idea even though the logical end of that would probably result in a return to feudalism. I think most people would agree we already have corporate socialism and late/end-stage capitalism in america.

  • @vilmospalik1480
    @vilmospalik1480 4 роки тому +215

    sike the bolivian story has a happy ending the guy who was overthrown has returned and is the leader again

    • @discountchocolate4577
      @discountchocolate4577 4 роки тому +25

      Hopefully Bolivia stays free if either MAS goes full Marxist (they're currently a socdem party), or if Marxist leadership continues where MAS left off with more explicitly Marxist politics and gives full control of the economy to their working class.

    • @haphazard1342
      @haphazard1342 4 роки тому +43

      Not quite, but close enough to make your point. Morales was not permitted to run for re-election, but the political party that he led supported his primary economic policy minister who won the last election.
      So the Party of Morales is returned to power, even though he is not the President.

    • @dinamosflams
      @dinamosflams 4 роки тому +3

      @@haphazard1342 good, otherwise they would leaning to a dictatorship

    • @themightymcb7310
      @themightymcb7310 4 роки тому +17

      @@dinamosflams Is it really a dictatorship if the people continue to vote for the guy year after year? Was it dictatorship for FDR to win 4 elections in a row?
      I go back and forth on term limits, but it's pretty clear that they were implemented in the US to prevent socialist candidates from getting into office and then remaining so popular due to their economic policies that they never lose.
      Evo Morales might have done some rule-bending to run for more terms than he was technically allowed, but the guy was also winning supermajority votes in every election he participated in. He was, and remains, overwhelmingly popular. I'm not necessarily convinced that arbitrary term limits should be imposed on the democratic will of the people.

    • @rager5600
      @rager5600 4 роки тому +3

      Morales is not particularly a good leader

  • @UbrukeligKanal
    @UbrukeligKanal 2 роки тому +17

    You sir just got yourself a new subscriber. This was premium content, thank you!

  • @patrickvaughn9961
    @patrickvaughn9961 2 роки тому +165

    I have done a significant amount of research trying to truly understand the concept of capitalism socialism and communism and this video was probably one of the strongest most poignant / powerful videos regarding the facts and the truth behind capitalism. I have been saying for a very long time I do not understand why we are incapable of opening our eyes and seeing that the system does not work. This video truly exposes the truth and explains it in a very poignant way. Wow. Thank you for this video!

    • @osejoshua5939
      @osejoshua5939 2 роки тому +2

      You mind sharing you capitalist sources tho cuz this doesn't even speak about socialism ideology it just practices it rather

    • @Eduardogiven
      @Eduardogiven Рік тому

      You need to research deep, and you will see that the socialist and comunist arround the world are pretty good hiding their crap. Wey better then a democratic goverments.

    • @gysgijsbers4202
      @gysgijsbers4202 Рік тому

      Have you looked at Communist countries...have you opened your eyes to see the millions of people ruthlessly killed under Lenin, Stalin, Mao tse Tung, Pol Pot etc ?

  • @chrisc4874
    @chrisc4874 4 роки тому +126

    Worth noting, feudal peasants had much more "vacation time" than the average worker in America.
    It's the same old shit.
    Edit: I also like the subtle "which side are you on" banjo in the background.

    • @Miraihi
      @Miraihi 4 роки тому +16

      Feudal peasants had to deal with a whole set of different risks and fears in their daily life, but they were never in fear of being fired or evicted.

    • @iain3713
      @iain3713 4 роки тому +2

      Are you seriously comparing your life to one of a feudal peasant

    • @iain3713
      @iain3713 4 роки тому +1

      There seems to be a disconnect with how utterly terrible living conditions were compared to today

    • @somkeshav4143
      @somkeshav4143 4 роки тому +6

      @@GoldenRockefeller state capitalist are known for sweatshops because socialism is supposed to care about the workers needs.

    • @nicholasmitchiner8630
      @nicholasmitchiner8630 4 роки тому +2

      @@GoldenRockefeller I think that's because they are less developed so governments reduce minimum or have a low minimum wages in those countries to attract TNCs to come overseas and invest in factories and sweatshops so they can economically develop like seen in China and India. This happens as it is cheaper for those companies to invest overseas rather than having factories their more developed countries hence outsourcing. Evidence for this is there is little employment in the secondary sector(i.e. coal, steel working, and so on) in more developed countries like the US and Uk.
      I hope this has cleared any uncertainties up and have a nice day. This is a very flawed and simplified view however it is an aspect of the reasons why.

  • @richardspillers6282
    @richardspillers6282 3 роки тому +233

    Imagine how fast your economics teacher would send you to the office if you started quoting second thought in class.

    • @Parrotcat
      @Parrotcat 2 роки тому +50

      That reminds me:
      I vividly remember fighting my teacher in like 8th grade after she told us about the cow analogy (tldr: capitalism is when u have 2 female cows and sell one to buy a male cow, so u can breed them and get more cows to produce more milk. Socialism is when the government takes one of ur two cows away and gives it to ur neighbour who had no cows. Communism is when the government takes away all cows and makes you wait in a line to get milk, which is spoiled once its your turn. You can imagine my outrage) and I didnt even fully understand political theory back then (I did however already read Marx(only understood like 10% of the words but its the thought that counts) but somehow still almost won the argument (turns out she didnt know how capitalism nor socialism nor communism works) when she straight up said I must be a stupid kid and she wont listen.
      And this wasnt in worldsmost-patriotirc-school-system america. This was in germany.

    • @mikeystorm8124
      @mikeystorm8124 2 роки тому +2

      Very fast apparently after beeing called an absolute moron commi

    • @Dis_Dis
      @Dis_Dis 2 роки тому +28

      My High School teacher was a Communist. I told her I was interested in Socialism and Communism so she gave me a free copy of the Communist Manifesto

    • @mdaniels6311
      @mdaniels6311 2 роки тому

      Study real economics.. not the nonsense they teach people in University. Read Marx, Keynes, Varufakus (he has loads of great stuff on YT), Grace Blakeley, Steve Keen, Gary Stevenson, Anne Pittofor, Stephanie Kelsen.. and many of these are not socialists, but you get the truth about markets from them. The 19th century drivel they tech people is just that.... drivel .

    • @mdaniels6311
      @mdaniels6311 2 роки тому +1

      Oh and how can I forget Minsky, an yes, Adam Smith instead... mainly just to see how epically misquoted he has been from the right.

  • @jacobnewman5849
    @jacobnewman5849 2 роки тому +10

    Every American should be forced to watch this video

  • @ice319
    @ice319 4 роки тому +192

    Oh man...... Your videos are always so enlightening. I've felt the same way about capitalism for years, but once you begin to criticize capitalism, people begin to call you un-American. So I stop talking to those people about it. This video definitely makes a lot of sense to me.

    • @dominikxxxxx9642
      @dominikxxxxx9642 4 роки тому +1

      Agree with you that it does makes sense. However, .......Questions from me on practical implications of Socialism whilst being a general supporter of the Socialism Idea (I'm living in Germany with a social market economy born in the GDR) 1.) Who pays the founder(s) of a company (by definition not employed) for the years (average time) building up a profitable (stable) company without being afterwards in debt in case of failure (bankruptcy, not profitable etc) just as the employees suggested in this video who share the company profit but not the debt or loss due to investments, running cost which are payed currently by banks, funds or private savings or loans)? 2.) What is the calculation to determine the actual income of the founder(s) once the company is profitable (stable)? 3) Linked to the answers to question 1&2 . What motivates the founder(s) then to build up a company and keep it running? PS: Just to be kept in mind that the more solutions are moved towards the state the longer all will take, cost and limit Innovation due to Bureaucracy and decision making based on past data. (see free market economy vs social market economy vs. socialist centrally state planned economy) Thanks for reading and thank you in advance to all reasonable, rational and logical answers. (emotional motivated opinions will be ignored) :-)

    • @mariahyohannes
      @mariahyohannes 4 роки тому +17

      There's nothing wrong with being un-American, no point of being patriotic to a country who has done nothing but make your life miserable

    • @mikaelafrias7786
      @mikaelafrias7786 4 роки тому +2

      Well guess what. I dont want to be American *MIDDLE FINGER*

    • @joeanthony7759
      @joeanthony7759 4 роки тому +5

      @@dominikxxxxx9642 The ways of private financing and investment, credit and debt-based currency would have to be reformed in order to determine those specific calculations. . As far as what makes people motivated to do anything productive or worthwhile, this is an innate characteristic in humans that will not disappear just because the for-profit motive becomes obsolete. It’s been with us long before capitalism or even before money existed. With basic needs met and stabilized, people will be freer and more encouraged to be all they can be, if you will. Only the worst among us will fight against such a necessary transition. Our current “leaders” are living in the fog of a bygone era if they don’t understand why a transition is needed for our species’ , and those we depend on, survival. It is not a utopian ideal, just a practical one.

    • @dotherightthing259
      @dotherightthing259 4 роки тому +4

      No system is perfect, but all I can see about capitalism is massive loop holes that allow corruption to take control..
      So when the US decides to go so called help other countries it’s just to take advantage of resources or for profit... I just don’t get why would anyone would want the US to liberate them ? Because the American dream has always been Fake... the idea sounds great but it’s never practiced...

  • @baconninja4481
    @baconninja4481 4 роки тому +169

    Second Thought: Socialism is not all that bad
    US: This man needs some freedom

    • @toastertag7536
      @toastertag7536 4 роки тому +11

      Freedom in Form of tanks, Panzers, helicopters, guns and Rockets

    • @kubaostrejko4765
      @kubaostrejko4765 4 роки тому +1

      @@toastertag7536 Freedom in that the richest people on the planet are from Capitalist countries

    • @lonewolf2156
      @lonewolf2156 4 роки тому +8

      @@kubaostrejko4765 yet are only 2% of the population

    • @kubaostrejko4765
      @kubaostrejko4765 4 роки тому +1

      @@lonewolf2156 Yet represent the richest of the richest, where the quality of life is in capitalist countries and everything else. You’re blinded by flash it’s awful

    • @lonewolf2156
      @lonewolf2156 4 роки тому +10

      @@kubaostrejko4765 the quality of life only ever goes down, the wealth gap only ever increases, corporate power only ever increases. Products designed to fail in a given time and also be unrepairable, corporations like John deer and tesla using computer software to hold broke down tractors and cars hostage, all in the name of profit for the fue. Capitalism is far from perfect even at the start, never mind now, granted it may have been better then other systems that existed the past, but that was then what it is now is redicules

  • @azwadomar
    @azwadomar 4 роки тому +179

    This is soo depressing, I hate that this is still a very real problem, when it shouldn't. I truly hope that change come soon hopefully in my lifetime.

    • @Deathmastertx
      @Deathmastertx 4 роки тому +1

      The world is actually becoming better. People are living longer. Rates of education are getting better. The proportion of the world in absolute poverty is declining. China's abandonment of Maoism and their opening up of their economy and allowance of private enterprise alone have lifted at least tens of millions out of poverty.

    • @cubertmiso
      @cubertmiso 4 роки тому

      Go to Venezuela or Cuba and change places with someone wanting your slot of non-optimal but decentralized market economy.

    • @forestgreen9002
      @forestgreen9002 4 роки тому +13

      @@Deathmastertx the world isnt getting better when you exclude China from the statistic that skews the data, when you do this you see things are actually getting worse for most of the world even in developed nations like the U.S when you measure for health care, education, and economic mobility.

    • @Deathmastertx
      @Deathmastertx 4 роки тому +1

      @@forestgreen9002 Even if the rest of the world stayed the same, the improvements for a person in China still matter, and the world hasn't stayed the same. In the US, life expectancy has increased by over 2 years in the past 20 years even as the opioid epidemic pulls it down. Expected years of schooling has increased 0.5-1 year in the US depending on how you consider it. In the past decade the proportion of people over 25 with a bachelor's degree or higher jumped from 29.9% to 36.0%. The GDP per capita of sub-Saharan Africa over the past 20 years has tripled. Even in PPP terms, India's GDP per capita has more than doubled in the past 20 years.

    • @lunareclipse6359
      @lunareclipse6359 4 роки тому +8

      @@cubertmiso neither of them are actually socialist there economy isn't socialist the only damn thing they did was increase government spending on SOME welfare stuff but they still kept their meaty hooks in capitalism as a whole and they made the mistake of pissing the US off by nationalizing their fossil fuel industry
      simple as that

  • @erichnk
    @erichnk 16 днів тому +2

    Small correction: Socialism is to each according to [their] need; to each according [their] ability. Some can produce a great deal more than others. All deserve to eat, have proper housing, education and health care.

  • @HOOLIGANSSSSss
    @HOOLIGANSSSSss 4 роки тому +160

    i think the reason why i and most people are now fascinated by dystopian societies stories, is bc we are actively living in one.. And, it's sooo depressing 😔

    • @frankwu3466
      @frankwu3466 4 роки тому +11

      @Maximillian Wylde And We, people from china, like what you said. Keep it going. Finally, one day you can only see the United States being swept into the garbage dump of history.

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice 4 роки тому +12

      1984 was supposed to be a cautionary tale, not a how-to manual.

    • @AndrewManook
      @AndrewManook 4 роки тому +6

      @Maximillian Wylde Lmao

    • @HOOLIGANSSSSss
      @HOOLIGANSSSSss 4 роки тому +2

      @@SynthApprentice lmaoo no but fr tho 🤣

    • @energy1136
      @energy1136 3 роки тому

      @Maximillian Wylde The peasants were dying and the emperors did nothing. Sic semper tyrannis. All the emperors rot in hell right now

  • @yunchong8474
    @yunchong8474 4 роки тому +288

    Socialism is when the government does stuff. And it's more socialism the more stuff it does. And if it does a real lot of stuff, its communism.-Richard Wolff

    • @joelimbergamo639
      @joelimbergamo639 4 роки тому +7

      In the firt part you are totally right, but Comunism is the state doing EVERITHING

    • @yunchong8474
      @yunchong8474 4 роки тому +9

      @@joelimbergamo639 it's a Richard Wolff quote forgot to credit him.

    • @uncleskype9651
      @uncleskype9651 4 роки тому +21

      Top-tier s**tpost. As a Wolff fan I want to cross-stitch this and hang it in my bathroom.

    • @flatpotato4591
      @flatpotato4591 4 роки тому +11

      I think Carl Marks said that?

    • @taylorbrock4635
      @taylorbrock4635 4 роки тому +1

      That's a sexist quote.

  • @user-fj4xd7hn7k
    @user-fj4xd7hn7k 4 роки тому +1429

    b-but socialism is when no iphone 😥

    • @RealGracefulGoose
      @RealGracefulGoose 4 роки тому +188

      Socialism but ??????? Buy ifone? Covfefe???????

    • @TheAmericanAmerican
      @TheAmericanAmerican 4 роки тому +27

      Good. 😐

    • @Zones33
      @Zones33 4 роки тому +12

      What is true ownership?

    • @ToxicTerrance
      @ToxicTerrance 4 роки тому +93

      I think we could do away with little metal bricks that are purposely made worse every year under a veil of innovation.

    • @Zones33
      @Zones33 4 роки тому +42

      @@ToxicTerrance you wouldn’t be typing now if it wasn’t for the popularization of the first iPhone. Not defending apple, but they are important. People aren’t going to make products Willy nilly, the human condition is inherently greedy and you cannot modify it otherwise

  • @JEREMIAHMN
    @JEREMIAHMN 5 місяців тому +2

    A simple point that I don't see emphasized enough: Capitalism requires growth. For capitalism to last indefinitely, growth needs to happen indefinitely. This is simply not possible so another solution must be found.

  • @noblestor8089
    @noblestor8089 3 роки тому +374

    "If you're an american like I am, you live in the richest most powerful nation in the history of the world. We have almost endless resources that could be used to solve any problem that we face, we could fund universal healthcare which would even save us money, we could fund climate change mitigation measures, we could fund free higher education, better infrastructure, public transportation, we could end homelessness, build state of the art schools libraries parks and hospitals, we could ensure every american worker is compensated fairly for their work, We could have the American Dream. Instead all that money goes to the military to fund intervention in other countries, it goes to tax breaks for corporations, it goes to bailing out criminal industries that destroy the planet and the lives of countless human beings, marxism socialism communism, pick whichever scary word you want, they represent the rejection of our dystopian state of affairs, they stand for the expansion of human freedom, for the acknowledgement of universal rights, for kindness, decency and care for the less fortunate. An america that embraces at least some of the tenets of marxism would be a nation that didnt destroy the lives of innocent people the world over, it would be a nation that cared for its own, that addressed the material concerns of the many over the greedy demands of the few it would be a nation that could truly lead the way into the future, a future that is bright, just and righteous."
    Absolutely fucking incredible

    • @AngryPostmanStockholm
      @AngryPostmanStockholm 3 роки тому +23

      Well spoken, USA needs a president like you.
      Im from Sweden and the greedy vulture globalists are about to do just the opposite here
      with their ugly ways and methods, gotta clean up the powers forcing their ways to egoism,
      separation, elitism with scaretactics, building expensive homes only affordable for a few and make the
      true general citizens move out for example.
      No im not a communist, just a person lived under socialism
      and truly understood the governments first mission wich should be a decent life for all, if you happened to
      be disabled or in anyway can't contribute the taxes should cover you too...etc..

    • @BarrySlisk
      @BarrySlisk 3 роки тому

      USA is not the richest country in the world.

    • @BarrySlisk
      @BarrySlisk 3 роки тому

      "we could fund climate change mitigation measures"
      You live on credit as it is right now. What makes you think you can afford more?

    • @bera0014
      @bera0014 3 роки тому +29

      @@BarrySlisk economically it is...morally not even in the top 50.....

    • @tbn22
      @tbn22 3 роки тому +9

      Absolutely fucking bullshit.
      I grew up in such a country, and it's not rainbows and fairy tales. All this goodwill has a hefty price. The government takes away half of your income for it's own selfish interests while you are asked to put your individuality aside in order to serve this bureaucratic shit show.
      "They stand for the expansion of human freedom, for the acknowledgement of universal rights, for kindness, decency and care for the less fortunate." - Lol, piss off until you've lived this hell. They don't give a flying fuck about your freedom. If they do, then why do they take it away every month, and threaten you with jail if you resist? Universal rights means individual right for unlimited unfoldment and expansion independently of any group or state. None of that exists under socialist regimes.
      An america that embraces at least some of the tenets of marxism would be a nation that didnt destroy the lives of innocent people the world over, it would be a nation that cared for its own, that addressed the material concerns of the many over the greedy demands of the few. - Just take a look at Venezuela and see what a good job socialism did at taking care of it's people.
      Capitalism is potential freedom, where you are rewarded for challenging and expanding your individuality. This multiplies someone's feeling of achievement. Socialism is guaranteed misery where all you do is slave away for notihn in a life without purpose. Fuck socialism.

  • @4BetaMale2
    @4BetaMale2 4 роки тому +214

    18:10
    To quote George Carlin.
    "They call it the American dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it."

    • @comradefreedom8275
      @comradefreedom8275 4 роки тому +4

      That's very true. I'm not sure why people never understood his message.

    • @MrAnimason
      @MrAnimason 4 роки тому

      @@comradefreedom8275 Maybe because many people, myself included, don't think it's true. I never have. 8th richest country in the world by GDP per capita despite it's size? Most charitable country in the world? Highest immigrant population out of any country? Highest paid doctors in the world? Most robust stock exchange? Nah, those don't matter.

    • @comradefreedom8275
      @comradefreedom8275 4 роки тому +1

      @@MrAnimason Eh, when almost 3/4ths of the American population lives paycheck to paycheck, the American dream becomes more and more of a farce to me.
      www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/number-of-americans-living-paycheck-to-paycheck-on-decline-despite-pandemic-301134207.html

    • @inkaf225
      @inkaf225 4 роки тому +3

      @@MrAnimason Hey bud, most people aren't rich, and can't get to be rich.
      In Other words actually address the fucking point.

    • @MrAnimason
      @MrAnimason 4 роки тому

      @@inkaf225 True, that's most people. But being middle class in America is good enough to have a prosperous life. You don't need to be the 1%. I'm certainly not and I'm content. I don't know what point I'm not addressing despite all the statistics I've brought up. Is "the point" just what you want to hear? What every European, Canadian, Australian, New Zealander wants to hear? Because I'm not going to give it to you.

  • @nickbelov1382
    @nickbelov1382 3 роки тому +270

    Hello from Russia)
    Some of your colleagues, Marxist bloggers from my country, have started to share and translate your material. Great video here.
    As a suggestion just want to add some words about "socialism doesn't work". In Marx's and Lenin's works they say, that socialism needs a great scale of democracy to sustain. It was not done right in USSR history due war times (civil, ww2, cold). It is too optimistic to think that society could be democratic during wars, so a new subclass was formed - bureaucracy, that led my country to counter revolution and destruction. So in future new socialist/communist countries should provide people with great democracy rights - choosing your own boss, mayor or any deputy and the right to cancel their authority. Then it comes that even the-holy-Democracy, so loved by most American propagandists, is greater on our left side)

    • @CaMyMka
      @CaMyMka 3 роки тому +5

      Хороший вариант для социалистической революции - глобализация. Может следующий раз будет по теории)

    • @apove1814
      @apove1814 2 роки тому

      Right - it was a perverse form of socialism. Not at all like theory. Stalin took everything for himself .

    • @hollowman9410
      @hollowman9410 2 роки тому

      That is never going to happen. But thank you.

    • @Alexa-dv7ni
      @Alexa-dv7ni 2 роки тому +18

      One thing struck me from your comment: “socialism needs a great scale of democracy to sustain”. THIS.
      This statement cannot be closer to the truth. Socialism and Marxism sounds so good on paper, but that requires a body of government to be good and just. It is a proven fact that war generates a lot of money for a country, at that point democracy is thrown right out of the window and now, said country has become capitalist.

    • @hollowman9410
      @hollowman9410 2 роки тому +8

      @Paul Gauthier Don't take my words for granted. This is just my opinion.
      Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.
      Socialism is an economic philosophy and movement encompassing a range of economic systems characterized by the dominance of social ownership of the means of production as opposed to private ownership.
      Most countries are usually a mixture of both systems, the reasons for this are simple. If you have the government in charge of all property, they will abuse their power (and if you think otherwise, tell me do you have full faith in Donald Trump, Putin, Obama and all other politicians?). If you go full Capitalism, you will create a corporate dystopia, because things like healthcare are too important in any society to be run for profit.