How Big Was Megalodon Really?

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  • Megalodon was one big fish. But just how big was it really? New research has shown that we might actually have been underestimating its true length this whole time...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 913

  • @melvinshine9841
    @melvinshine9841 Місяць тому +435

    "So how big was Megalodon?"
    "Big."
    "Exactly how big was it?"
    "Yes."

    • @willoliver9036
      @willoliver9036 Місяць тому +7

      Big boi
      Really big boi

    • @afunnytheropod
      @afunnytheropod Місяць тому +10

      Megalodon was atleast a few meters long

    • @b-wingxl8182
      @b-wingxl8182 Місяць тому +4

      "Are you sure about that?"
      "Maybe?"

    • @Mandred85
      @Mandred85 Місяць тому

      @@afunnytheropod That was unexpectedly funny XD

    • @Albukhshi
      @Albukhshi Місяць тому +3

      @@afunnytheropod
      Megalodon was about the size of a shark

  • @albatross4920
    @albatross4920 Місяць тому +519

    Spino: "so... folks are confused about what you looked like too?"😒
    Meg: .... "yep."🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @primrosevale1995
      @primrosevale1995 Місяць тому +44

      "If I had a nickel for every prehistoric enormous aquatic predator that had its body restoration constantly changed due to a lack of a definitive skeleton, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice."

    • @NorskaFjordskaOfficial
      @NorskaFjordskaOfficial Місяць тому +6

      @@primrosevale1995I know you’re just joking but Spinosaurus wasn’t an aquatic predator

    • @breyden9363
      @breyden9363 Місяць тому +11

      ​@NorskaFjordskaOfficial 🥸 I guess your not quite caught up on the recent theories of it being a semi aquatic animal

    • @NorskaFjordskaOfficial
      @NorskaFjordskaOfficial Місяць тому +2

      @@breyden9363 you said “aquatic”, not “semi-aquatic” also… wrong emoji

    • @EVOLUTIONINCARNATE
      @EVOLUTIONINCARNATE Місяць тому +2

      @@albatross4920 not as confused as spino
      We have a decent view tbh
      Not exactly like tyrannosaurus but we have a decent inclination

  • @yissibiiyte
    @yissibiiyte Місяць тому +1193

    As a shark expert, I can confidently say that megalodon was the size of a megalodon-sized shark

  • @zandorvorkov7257
    @zandorvorkov7257 Місяць тому +199

    The size of a normal shark. It just had enormous, buck teeth that other sharks made fun of.

    • @necroseus
      @necroseus Місяць тому +16

      That must be why it went extinct 😔

    • @sharksarecooI
      @sharksarecooI Місяць тому +2

      This hurts to read

    • @laurelelliott7021
      @laurelelliott7021 Місяць тому +3

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @bwilson5401
      @bwilson5401 Місяць тому +5

      Due to be re-named the Gary Buseydon.

    • @alemswazzu
      @alemswazzu 12 днів тому +2

      Haha. Poor meggy, bet he whistles really well.

  • @nicodemusedwards6931
    @nicodemusedwards6931 Місяць тому +482

    At least as big as a golden retriever. Possibly even bigger.

    • @Astorath_the_Grim
      @Astorath_the_Grim Місяць тому +17

      It's smaller than a Great Dane, though.

    • @orionspur
      @orionspur Місяць тому +16

      Somewhere between megayacht and miniature labradoodle.

    • @peterbreis5407
      @peterbreis5407 Місяць тому +10

      Definitely bigger than a breadbox.

    • @2shadesofgray752
      @2shadesofgray752 Місяць тому +3

      You know I think it actually might be bigger than a golden retriever though this is just a theory

    • @scotthorning1180
      @scotthorning1180 Місяць тому +5

      Smaller than Clifford the big red dog.

  • @rabidsmiles
    @rabidsmiles Місяць тому +321

    The fact that a juvenile specimen is in a private collection is utterly disheartening.

    • @alterego2421
      @alterego2421 Місяць тому +58

      epstein moment

    • @Paralititan
      @Paralititan Місяць тому +32

      If it is the specimen I think it is, it is a composite with some elements not even being megalodon. So don't worry too much about this one.

    • @Timbo6669
      @Timbo6669 Місяць тому +3

      @@Paralititan”If”?

    • @Paralititan
      @Paralititan Місяць тому +7

      @@Timbo6669 Well I have seen one displayed at the Aathal private collection. But I think it is owned by someone else. That one is definitely a composite and I am unsure if the jaw parts are real or not.

    • @JohnJohnsonSonOfJohn
      @JohnJohnsonSonOfJohn Місяць тому +18

      @@Paralititannormally only the teeth are fossilised for sharks (since most of their skeleton is cartilage). There is not a single full specimen of a megalodon, therefore ALL complete fossil specimens are composites. The only real Megalodon fossils in existence are teeth and vertebrae, everything else are models based on the anatomy of the closest living relative of the Meg (I.e. the great white shark)

  • @HSPGelton2
    @HSPGelton2 Місяць тому +84

    "Murder Guppy"... Love it!

    • @Sean-qg3gg
      @Sean-qg3gg Місяць тому +2

      Murder murder murder, guppy guppy guppies
      Murder! (Murder)
      Guppies! (Guppies)
      Clap clap
      Murder Guppies!
      Clap clap
      Murder Guppies! 🎶

  • @saychaysarchive7065
    @saychaysarchive7065 Місяць тому +133

    What are the odds that both you guys and another channel I follow (Wild World) would both upload a video on the real size of Megalodon within one minute of each other?

    • @necroseus
      @necroseus Місяць тому +2

      Not very high!

    • @thekaxmax
      @thekaxmax Місяць тому +36

      Shark week, pretty high

    • @FossilFinder12
      @FossilFinder12 Місяць тому +6

      Maybe keeping up with the recent paleontology news?

    • @tacho9427
      @tacho9427 Місяць тому +1

      I was about to say the exact same thing lol

    • @neo-filthyfrank1347
      @neo-filthyfrank1347 Місяць тому +2

      @@FossilFinder12 The last paper about it potentially being more elongated wasn't that new

  • @brotquel1592
    @brotquel1592 Місяць тому +44

    Megalodon has seen how much attention Spinosaurus was getting with all the controversies and decided to give it a try.

    • @lolidemon3163
      @lolidemon3163 21 день тому +1

      Since wen is there not controversy on spinosaurus. It's like something new each year

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 15 днів тому +2

      Gotta love how both still manage to generate a lot of controversity. For Megalodon we don't have many remains apart from the teeth and vertebrae, and for Spinosaurus we don't actually know if the remains we have, are actually Spinosaurus. Given that the holotype was destroyed in WWII. These already included remains of maybe a different species.😅 At least for the new Moroccan Spinosaurid material we know quite well how it looked. Except for some important detail.

  • @jodebever
    @jodebever Місяць тому +72

    Megalodon: has another change
    Spinosaurus: first time?

  • @Deform-2024
    @Deform-2024 Місяць тому +28

    Makes sense, I was always skeptical of the super bulky ultra fast predator meg. 20 to 40 meter vertebrates tend to be more elongated in their body plans. So Megalodon following that trend is plausible.

  • @thegreywardenherald8923
    @thegreywardenherald8923 Місяць тому +43

    I'm good with the Meg shark getting a size upgrade. It'll be interesting to see what an updated size estimate works out to be considering the newest paper.

  • @MayContainBirdseed
    @MayContainBirdseed Місяць тому +17

    When I was momentarily distracted I misheard "a unique fish would need" as "a unique fish with knees" and snapped back to attention. "They discovered WHAT NOW?!" I had to listen to it a few more times before I finally clued in. I think it's second-cup-of-coffee-o'clock.
    Thank you for another fantastic shark week! I look forward to it every year. While Megalodon is probably the species of prehistoric marine life I'm least interested in (sacrileges, I know) it's always nice seeing two of my main interests overlap. Thank you for continuing to provide educational and interesting content!

  • @Jdne199311
    @Jdne199311 Місяць тому +75

    "A Grounded Scientifically accurate depiction in the next Meg movie... " why i love this Channel 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @chris77jay77
      @chris77jay77 Місяць тому +1

      Loved the books. Couldn’t even finish the second movie.

    • @Divine_Serpent_Geh
      @Divine_Serpent_Geh Місяць тому +2

      @@chris77jay77The prehistoric Meg that ate the T-Rex and the largest villain of the 3 (Scarface) were hilarious lol. Basically Kaiju-sized.

    • @loqutisborg5416
      @loqutisborg5416 15 днів тому

      Enjoyed the movies. Loved the books by Steve Alten

  • @francissemyon7971
    @francissemyon7971 Місяць тому +22

    Simply the best summary of the history of megalodon sizing on YT at the moment (I was involved in the 2021 summed crown width study).
    Yes, as always more is coming on the subject.

  • @robertstone9988
    @robertstone9988 Місяць тому +96

    Magalodon is the spino of the sea. Unless you believe spino was full aquatic then none of this makes sense

    • @neo-filthyfrank1347
      @neo-filthyfrank1347 Місяць тому +6

      Wrong. Sperm whales are the rexes of the sea.

    • @matthewdavies2057
      @matthewdavies2057 Місяць тому +3

      @@neo-filthyfrank1347 Oh you haven't been paying attention in class.

    • @neo-filthyfrank1347
      @neo-filthyfrank1347 Місяць тому +5

      @@matthewdavies2057 It's true. They are the rexes of the c

    • @stefans.6858
      @stefans.6858 Місяць тому

      They never met.

    • @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
      @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 Місяць тому +5

      @@neo-filthyfrank1347Meg had the strongest bite force of any animal like Rex did on land

  • @nickpickety8303
    @nickpickety8303 Місяць тому +15

    Imagine if megaladon was basically pug faced with borzoi body proportions. Obviously, it's not actually shaped like a dog, but just shark version of those traits

    • @Tyrell-d6o
      @Tyrell-d6o Місяць тому +3

      Sounds like a mahi mahi

  • @GraveyIRL
    @GraveyIRL Місяць тому +73

    It was the size of a goldfish, just with a really really big head

  • @jasontoddvoorhees
    @jasontoddvoorhees Місяць тому +6

    Megalodon and Spinosaurus: 🤝🏻 Having our size/design changed more times than Flint, Michigan Water

  • @jurgen1395
    @jurgen1395 Місяць тому +62

    So dunkleotius get smaller but megalodon gets bigger so that’s probably a accuracy of the the meg films

    • @neo-filthyfrank1347
      @neo-filthyfrank1347 Місяць тому +13

      The megalodons in those films don't even move correctly. Even if they're dumb movies they're still hard to get serious enjoyment out of once you understand how these animals would actually move.

    • @mimorisenpai8540
      @mimorisenpai8540 Місяць тому +6

      Megalodon pretty much confirmed preying on whale

    • @jritechnology
      @jritechnology Місяць тому +5

      @@neo-filthyfrank1347 Or once you read the books....the movies are not even close.

    • @neo-filthyfrank1347
      @neo-filthyfrank1347 Місяць тому +1

      @@jritechnology The books are garbage too lmao

    • @losgann
      @losgann Місяць тому +4

      @@neo-filthyfrank1347 The first few are fun garbage though. I also thought the first movie was fun garbage (the second one was horrendous).

  • @aidenmorreyvoiceactor
    @aidenmorreyvoiceactor 28 днів тому +4

    Whether it was 60 feet or 48 feet, or whatever, it was still the single largest predatory shark species we've ever known.

  • @Hamish1968
    @Hamish1968 Місяць тому +6

    A fine, well-balanced and, above all, non-sensationalist discussion on this fascinating subject.

  • @beck-tn9gl
    @beck-tn9gl 14 днів тому +2

    Didn't some study recently propose that the Megladon may have looked more like a Tiger Shark rather than the Great White?

  • @bill5982
    @bill5982 Місяць тому +10

    There is an associated dentition of its immediate predecessor Otodus chubutensis which is in a Swiss museum. The dentition with skull and vertebrae was smuggled out of Peru, so most scientists ignore it. I believe that is the one that you have pictured at the end of your video.

  • @dagoodboy6424
    @dagoodboy6424 Місяць тому +13

    Meg is just the new spino

  • @FelixstoweFoamForge
    @FelixstoweFoamForge Місяць тому +22

    Listen Ben, as long as the fish eats Jason Stachan in the next Meg film, I don't really care if it's all that accurate. Just so long as it noms him.

    • @good7bad13
      @good7bad13 Місяць тому

      Unfortunately I don't think his characters dies until later on. I could be wrong though as I accidentally started midway through the books soooooooo I have no clue 😂

    • @evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753
      @evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 14 днів тому

      Mega movie the 🦈 is 60m not 25m even

    • @ISURAH-484
      @ISURAH-484 4 дні тому

      ​@@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753yellowstone hyperpredator study will release this year,that megalodon size could have been 27m+

    • @evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753
      @evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 4 дні тому

      @@ISURAH-484 his fossil just one jaw remembered this it called less size than killer whale 🐋 same what's happened with armored fish

  • @mikerude5073
    @mikerude5073 Місяць тому +6

    Perhaps the basking shark is a closer approximation to the shape of the Meg? Obviously, there would be some differences due to niche, but basking sharks do have big heads and long bodies.

  • @S-T-E-V-E
    @S-T-E-V-E Місяць тому +10

    They always seem to base images of the Megalodon on a huge elderly Female Great White!

  • @Zavult
    @Zavult Місяць тому +16

    the shark in the thumb nail has thee most goofy over bit i have ever seen! It looks like a freaking Simpsons character🤣

    • @longshot3740
      @longshot3740 Місяць тому +1

      Looks like Whoopi Goldberg lol

    • @owenlj6261
      @owenlj6261 Місяць тому +2

      Google goblin shark

    • @Fede_99
      @Fede_99 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, really not the best reconstruction to use for the thumbnail, or in general

    • @sharksarecooI
      @sharksarecooI Місяць тому +1

      There’s way goofier reconstructions

  • @S-T-E-V-E
    @S-T-E-V-E Місяць тому +13

    Yes! SHARK WEEK!

  • @guccimanewearinjorts
    @guccimanewearinjorts Місяць тому +13

    Did all of these people in the comments just not watch the end of the video at all? Clearly says that the Meg was likely LARGER than current estimates suggest.
    It’s bizarre watching nerds wanting this crazy shark to be smaller rather than larger!

    • @MarcRobertson-gq2kv
      @MarcRobertson-gq2kv 23 дні тому +1

      whats weird is its the nerds who get all angry because it was so much bigger than any reptile

    • @maximumcringelevel8617
      @maximumcringelevel8617 20 днів тому +1

      They are jealous of how succesful sharks are in ecosystem. Because they can never imagine or dream being succesful as sharks.

  • @own4801
    @own4801 Місяць тому +7

    11:06 By "cruise," you mean just it's average "walking" speed, right? Because a Megalodon going faster than a Mako shark would be insane.

    • @spaceace1006
      @spaceace1006 Місяць тому +2

      It's pretty astonishing; the speeds of the larger predatory Sharks!! Makos, Tigers and Bulls are like torpedoes when they want to be!!!

    • @frasercake
      @frasercake 27 днів тому +1

      @@spaceace1006 great whites can swim at 25mph and have been seen bursting at 40 peak, so a slender hydro/aerodynamic muscular animal could easily do that your talking if its built close to a mako it could be faster than white sharks meaning faster than the average car on the road.

    • @spaceace1006
      @spaceace1006 27 днів тому +1

      @@frasercake "Torpedo" is a Shark; either a Great White or Meg who was the subject of a mockumentary from about 15 or so years ago!! "Torpedo" is certainly an appropriate moniker for just about every Shark in the Mackerel Category!! Although it was just a depiction in the film JAWS, "Bruce" is able to keep up with the Orca while she's at full throttle...and with 3 barrels attached!!

  • @Moulton_Lava
    @Moulton_Lava Місяць тому +7

    One big shark, that's putting it lightly

  • @silverfingerthesilverstack5062
    @silverfingerthesilverstack5062 Місяць тому +7

    Megalodon was the size of a Blue shark, it just had one tooth in the top and bottom of its mouth 😁

    • @evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753
      @evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 14 днів тому

      This joke becomes real with dunk and what you said there wired fish with gigantic jaws bigger than white shark jaws and they still alive like the crocodile fish and the dragon fish , eels gives you feel they're reptiles more than fish

  • @mrx4022
    @mrx4022 Місяць тому +3

    Scientists: So how big are you?
    Megalodon: *yes*

  • @SmashBrosAssemble
    @SmashBrosAssemble Місяць тому +45

    Given that it hunted Whales & competed with predatory Whales like Livyatan, Otodus megalodon must’ve been a colossal Shark, much larger than any Whale Shark alive today.

    • @francissemyon7971
      @francissemyon7971 Місяць тому +12

      Let that sink in, the ectothermic whale sharks are as small as 40-60 cm newborns and can grow up to at least 18.8 m, perhaps theoretically up to 21.9 m (Ong 2020). The same study found a 10 m female was 50 years old and this species is thought to reach 100 years old.
      The regionally endothermic megalodon were as large as 2 m when born and the Belgian specimen, now estimated to have been at least 15.9 m, was 46 years old and megalodon is estimated to have got as old as whale sharks.
      Yup, it seems it was larger than whale sharks.

    • @RedTail1-1
      @RedTail1-1 Місяць тому

      Really want people to think you're smart, huh

    • @Luritsas
      @Luritsas Місяць тому +6

      Remember baleen whales were much smaller when megalodon lived. The size of modern dolphins.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Місяць тому +1

      @@Luritsas A lot of them were closer to the size of modern orcas, but the point still stands.

    • @Luritsas
      @Luritsas Місяць тому +3

      @@MrGksarathy Orcas are dolphins

  • @melatonin1371
    @melatonin1371 Місяць тому +3

    "Transoceanic Super Predators" is just badass classification

  • @user-b587
    @user-b587 Місяць тому +4

    I mean the slender body shape can indeed be true not going to lie, but megalodons are still extinct so we still may never know what it actually looked like.

  • @timexyemerald6290
    @timexyemerald6290 Місяць тому +5

    first 24 meter Megalodon: "You Couldn't Live with Your Own Failure, Where Did That Bring You? Back to Me"

  • @jurawild
    @jurawild 10 днів тому

    The evolving research on Megalodon is fascinating! From being perceived as a massive, stocky predator to now potentially having a more elongated body, the giant shark continues to surprise us. It's incredible how new findings can shift our understanding of prehistoric creatures.

  • @The_PokeSaurus
    @The_PokeSaurus Місяць тому +6

    I think long thinish Megalodon makes sense. From what I remember Megalodon lived in shallow oceans like Basilosaurus once did, and Basilosaurus is long and thin for a whale.

    • @francissemyon7971
      @francissemyon7971 Місяць тому +2

      Basilosaurus was coastal, megalodon did not live in shallow oceans...

    • @The_PokeSaurus
      @The_PokeSaurus Місяць тому +2

      @@francissemyon7971 Then why do we find most Megalodon teeth in areas that used to be shallow oceans?

    • @francissemyon7971
      @francissemyon7971 Місяць тому +3

      @@The_PokeSaurus Megalodon favored coastal areas just like white sharks today (which are not basilosaurus like in shape) and meg teeth have been found in remote abyssal deposits.

    • @The_PokeSaurus
      @The_PokeSaurus Місяць тому

      @@francissemyon7971 I'm rather confused on what you're trying to get at. Are you saying you disagree with the new reconstruction of Megalodon?

    • @francissemyon7971
      @francissemyon7971 Місяць тому +2

      @@The_PokeSaurus Not at all, but it does not mean it was basilosaurus style either. Especially when you look at the study, they say "White
      sharks have a thicker vertebral column than short-
      fin mako (Isurus oxyrinchus) and porbeagle
      (Lamna nasus) sharks at a comparable body
      length (Gottfried et al., 1996; Natanson et al., 2002;
      Doño et al., 2015) but with a similar mass (Kohler
      et al., 1995)."
      This suggests that smaller vertebral girth is not necessarily indicating lighter weight in those sharks.
      The meg vertebrae are robust and still suggest a robust fusiform body, not almost serpentine like Basilosaurus, AFAIK.

  • @ambientoccluser
    @ambientoccluser Місяць тому +3

    Another interesting story I stumbled upon a web is in smithsonian magazine, cite "Did Great White Sharks Drive Megalodon to Extinction?
    An earlier extinction date puts megalodon’s fall in line with the rise of the great white"

    • @AwesomeFish12
      @AwesomeFish12 Місяць тому +3

      The decline of Megalodon from unrelated causes could have created the niche that great whites filled rather than through competition. It's all just speculation at this point 🤷‍♂

  • @AntoniusTyas
    @AntoniusTyas Місяць тому +3

    _Otodus megalodon_ truly is the _Spinosaurus aegyptiacus_ of shark.

  • @silveryuno
    @silveryuno Місяць тому +2

    Freeza: Bigger! Bigger! BIGGER! Perfect!

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 Місяць тому +25

    What if: The Megalodon ends up being a completely unique shark where it's dimensions are completely different from any other shark? Similar to Bulldogs & French Bull dogs? What if they had a massive head and a short stubby body? Maybe they lived more like Stone fish/Frog Fish? Slowly moving around the ground in the shallows and quickly striking with their massive mouths and massive teeth? I'm just playing around with some hypothetical speculative evolution ideas lol

    • @LommeMann1
      @LommeMann1 Місяць тому

      Bulldogs are the result of selective breeding. Such things don’t happen naturally

    • @fauresfaures4314
      @fauresfaures4314 Місяць тому +11

      titan frogfish sounds like some dope creature from subnautica

    • @benmcreynolds8581
      @benmcreynolds8581 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@fauresfaures4314 omg that would actually be such a cool concept for a creature in movies or video games lol

    • @necroseus
      @necroseus Місяць тому +11

      That would be interesting, but the vertebral column find implies it can't be shorter than 11 meters. And with there being much larger individual vertebrae, it's likely bigger.

    • @golddragonette7795
      @golddragonette7795 Місяць тому +1

      Absolutely possible, sharks have evolved into so many weird forms it's difficult to be sure of anything

  • @thomasdevlin5825
    @thomasdevlin5825 Місяць тому +5

    I love how we started out with estimates ranging anywhere from 24 to even 30 meters long, then modern estimates scaled it way back and put it at around 15 meters, sometimes up to 18 meters, now we've classified it as an entirely different type of shark and realized it was way bigger than we thought and now it's back to 20-24 meters again

    • @william3100
      @william3100 Місяць тому +3

      Looks like the older estimates were correct this whole time(as far as we know).

    • @ftgoggi4715
      @ftgoggi4715 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@william3100muuch like Kanga and Malta then. For many years the 23 ft+ length measurements/estimations were debunked by those who thought they knew better. Now it is considered likely that the original 23ft+ lengths were in fact reasonable. In spite of this, white shark maximal length is still generally accepted to be 20ft, when the reality is that a maximal length of 25ft is entirely plausible, that's 25% longer than currently accepted. Applying the same logic to a 25m Meg takes it to 30m+, a freaking big fish....give or take a white shark 👍

    • @ISURAH-484
      @ISURAH-484 26 днів тому

      ​​​@@ftgoggi4715So you are telling it could reach blue whale lengths .Then wait for svp 2024 this October-November something special going to happen for megalodon...A big specimen apparently called yellowstonehyperpredator ,a studygoingtoreleaseaboutit .Probably could reach 25m++

    • @ISURAH-484
      @ISURAH-484 25 днів тому

      ​@@ftgoggi4715you heard about yellowstone hyperpredator

    • @ISURAH-484
      @ISURAH-484 12 днів тому

      Yellowstone hyperpredator might be 28m ,but will see​@@ftgoggi4715

  • @bobbylasers
    @bobbylasers 29 днів тому +1

    I think the most accurate methodology of measurement would be how many jet skis Jason Statham can ride through their mouths

  • @Whitepaint
    @Whitepaint Місяць тому +2

    Another issue is not knowing the age of the creature, that the fossils belong to.

  • @mujexzilla
    @mujexzilla Місяць тому +3

    Paleontology must be such a frustrating field to work in, all you can do at the end of the day is give a very well educated guess. That would drive me crazy, to guess and estimate and never really know the full truth about a long extinct animal.

  • @MrGksarathy
    @MrGksarathy Місяць тому +34

    Everyone's all hyped about Megalodon, but I like Livyatan way more.

    • @francissemyon7971
      @francissemyon7971 Місяць тому +7

      Mammal bias, both deserves hype.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Місяць тому +4

      @@francissemyon7971 It was a personal opinion. I do have a shameless mammal bias, though, especially towards predatory whales.

    • @francissemyon7971
      @francissemyon7971 Місяць тому

      @@MrGksarathy Haha indeed.

    • @kilianteni7884
      @kilianteni7884 Місяць тому

      Tbh Meg has nothing unique its only a big shark Livyatan on the other hand is not just the upscaled version of some modern day animal.

    • @sharksarecooI
      @sharksarecooI Місяць тому +5

      Yeah yeah, whatever, you can go like Livyatan all you want, it wouldn’t stand a chance against the megalodon

  • @matthewdavies2057
    @matthewdavies2057 Місяць тому +2

    Phone call from a Mr Saurus Sir. He says 50 feet? Hold my beer!

  • @seandawkins3101
    @seandawkins3101 Місяць тому +2

    You're going to need a carnival cruise ship

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 Місяць тому +8

    *"Reality is often disappointing."*
    - Josh Brolin

    • @freyala024
      @freyala024 Місяць тому +7

      Why disappointing though? As said in the video, the newest studies suggest it was even bigger than previously thought.

    • @RajRaja-wo3uu
      @RajRaja-wo3uu Місяць тому +2

      ​@@freyala024Not bigger actually but with a different body design: more slender and elongated silhouette rather than the 'great white shark' like design which we had previously thought.

    • @william3100
      @william3100 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@RajRaja-wo3uuit was still extremely robust, though. It's fossilized vertebrae indicate that. So it WAS bigger than previously thought.

    • @RajRaja-wo3uu
      @RajRaja-wo3uu Місяць тому

      @@william3100 It's all speculative. Nobody's sure as to how big it was as there are varied size estimates based on different methods which leaves a lot of room for ambiguity. However, based on the discovery of the vertebral column, the shark was around 11 mtrs. Recent studies about the ancestry of great white sharks reveals that great white sharks evolved from a different group of sharks and it wasn't related to megalodon at all and megalodon belonged to a group of ancient sharks called otodontidae which went extinct. These ancient group of sharks had a more slender built. So, all these years, we have been wrong in believing that megalodon looked like great white sharks. It's almost impossible to calculate the body size of megalodon unless we find more complete remains.

    • @william3100
      @william3100 Місяць тому +1

      @@RajRaja-wo3uu slender but still very robust. Fossilized vertebrae we actually found show it was still a robust animal.

  • @MaddysinLeigh
    @MaddysinLeigh Місяць тому +3

    You plugging your mom’s channel is so sweet!

  • @josephkool8411
    @josephkool8411 Місяць тому +2

    What about Livyatan? We really have know idea how big that thing got considering we only have one specimens head and a couple teeth to go by

  • @user-ug8yh7lv5t
    @user-ug8yh7lv5t 11 днів тому +1

    The Megalodn, which is one of my favourite sharks. I believe it’s still alive today, though it has moved into deeper waters because of its size and the size of its prey. Think about it the prey gets bigger the deeper you go than at the surface

  • @FuzzyBunnyofInle
    @FuzzyBunnyofInle Місяць тому +3

    That basking shark footage gives me such a thallasophobic dread.

  • @myleswelnetz6700
    @myleswelnetz6700 Місяць тому +6

    If only shark skeletons were made of bone instead of cartilage.

  • @aldenconsolver3428
    @aldenconsolver3428 Місяць тому +1

    "Big Fish of Death"? Sharkzilla? "Megatooth " Love it LOL maybe we should just agree on Appititius Gigantius I am fascinated by sharks just like most of us with a paleo thing going and this one is fun (doesnt sound like quite the right word but .....)

  • @PantsuMann
    @PantsuMann Місяць тому

    "Murder guppy". Made my morning lol. Thank you

  • @Albukhshi
    @Albukhshi Місяць тому +5

    Ah yes, Megalodon: the Spinosaurus of the sea!

    • @matthewdavies2057
      @matthewdavies2057 Місяць тому +1

      In Jurassic Park 7 a Meg swims too close to a mangrove swamp and finds he is not the meanest thing in the neighborhood as two murder hands reach out, and out.

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 Місяць тому +1

      Lol

    • @monsterzero521
      @monsterzero521 Місяць тому

      Bruh Spinosaurus isn't the biggest carnivorous dinosaur

    • @Albukhshi
      @Albukhshi Місяць тому +1

      @@monsterzero521
      Who said that?

    • @monsterzero521
      @monsterzero521 Місяць тому

      @Albukhshi
      Top 10 largest theropod dinosaurs 2024
      Weight= size
      1. Tyrannosaurus rex- 12.8m & 12.6 tons
      2. Giganotosaurus- 13.5m & 11.3 tons
      3. Mcraeencies- 12.1m & 9.7 tons
      4. Spinosaurus- 14.7m & 9.3 tons
      5. Mapusaurus- 12.7m & 9.2 tons
      6. Saurophaganax- 13m & 9.1 tons
      7. Carcharodontosaurus- 12.4m & 9 tons
      8. Sauroniops- 12.6m & 8.3 tons
      9. Tyrannotitan- 11.7m & 8.2 tons
      10. Bahariasaurus- 13.4m & 7.8 tons

  • @therainbowgulag.
    @therainbowgulag. Місяць тому +6

    Okay let's all agree, it was big, right?

    • @Jay-ho9io
      @Jay-ho9io Місяць тому

      Ish

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 Місяць тому +1

      True

    • @ISURAH-484
      @ISURAH-484 25 днів тому

      ​@widodoakrom3938 around 90 feet

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 25 днів тому +1

      @@ISURAH-484 too big

    • @mullaivendanmullaivendan
      @mullaivendanmullaivendan 18 днів тому

      ​​You will see soon.pin this comment .At the end of this year,there is an article releasing about this megalodon being 90 feet ​@@widodoakrom3938

  • @primrosevale1995
    @primrosevale1995 Місяць тому +1

    Funnily I enough I was watching a video on Megalodon life behaviors before I saw this in my subscriptions.

  • @oddsman01
    @oddsman01 8 днів тому

    Most people don’t know this. The Magnus doofus macrodontia, colloquially named “Megalodon,” was similar in size to an adult white shark and capable of chewing corn through a picket fence with its oversized front teeth.

  • @Sr.PauloVitorGamerDrawer
    @Sr.PauloVitorGamerDrawer Місяць тому +4

    The megalodon is still considered the largest predatory fish of all time, believed to have measured 10.5 to 11.5 m on average and weighed up to 17.4 to 47.9 tons on average. It can be considered in both the genus Carcharocles and Otodus, but still some place it as Megaselachus megalodon, it is believed that it had a maximum weight of 60 tons or even more than 100 tons.
    Its possible ancestor was probably Otodus obliquus, mentioned on Wikipedia in Portuguese: Otodus obliquus was an extinct species of lamniform shark that lived from the Paleocene to the Eocene between 65 and 47.8 Ma, with other members such as Otodus (Carcharocles, Megaselachus) Chubutensis

    • @RedTail1-1
      @RedTail1-1 Місяць тому

      So many scientists in the comments..

    • @kj_H65f
      @kj_H65f Місяць тому +1

      If megaladon and tuna are both considered fish then so are humans

    • @karonuva
      @karonuva Місяць тому

      nice chatgpt comment

  • @InquisitorXarius
    @InquisitorXarius Місяць тому +4

    Wild World just uploaded a similar video immediately after you just did

  • @BinroWasRight
    @BinroWasRight Місяць тому +1

    All the megalodon euphemisms had cracking up! But this is an excellent update on recent megalodon-related papers and their meaning. I wouldn't be surprised to see a longer, but more slender form accepted.
    I'm glad that we're finally moving away from using modern laminid sharks only distantly related to meg, especially the white shark, in estimating meg's body proportions.
    Can you IMAGINE a full body fossil being found with Lagerstätte-type preservation? It would change everything and would be a truly intimidating specimen.

  • @philiptownsend4026
    @philiptownsend4026 Місяць тому

    So good to see and hear a real presentation by a real human. Not a series of clips with accompanying artificial voice where I can't help but concentrate upon pronunciation errors.
    THANK YOU SIR !

  • @SidMaron
    @SidMaron Місяць тому +3

    Posted 45 Seconds ago. 😳 I never watched a video that fast. 😂

  • @josephlongbone4255
    @josephlongbone4255 Місяць тому +3

    "Nah, I'd win."
    -Orca

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Місяць тому +1

      @@josephlongbone4255 "Among heaven and see, I alone am the honored whale."
      Cue Livyatan in the background.

    • @SublimeNumbaNine
      @SublimeNumbaNine 12 днів тому

      Orcas can’t even take down a blue whale. What makes you think they are take down a 70 foot 100 ton shark?

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy 12 днів тому

      @@SublimeNumbaNine How big do you think sharks are? No shark has ever approached a blue whale in size.

  • @OnurTheXbot
    @OnurTheXbot Місяць тому +2

    The maximum size currently is 23M and 146 tons, but there is a supposed new Meg specimen “Yellowstone Hyperpredator” that could be even bigger.

  • @derekk8523
    @derekk8523 Місяць тому +3

    I did some research myself and the findings are it wasn’t a shark at all. Convergent evolution was at play. It actually was an early hedgehog relative. The animal was only 8 feet long. Basically a square. And yes it spit venom

  • @woahblackbettybamalam
    @woahblackbettybamalam Місяць тому +3

    Magalodon is going to make the oceans great again

  • @--Paws--
    @--Paws-- Місяць тому +1

    I see the Megalodon as more of a crusher with its broad teeth than a simply cutting as the Great White. What if it was more like a Bull Shark or Tiger Shark instead.

  • @seanbigay1042
    @seanbigay1042 17 днів тому

    "How big was Megalodon, really?" "Why do you think I'm loading torpedoes?"

  • @pawejankowski9364
    @pawejankowski9364 Місяць тому +1

    The only giant prehistoric animal whose size had to be corrected upwards instead of downwards.

  • @robertserafin-uc3qn
    @robertserafin-uc3qn 10 днів тому

    As i had said before, there's an 80' Megladon set of jaws that had 2 men standing+ 6 seated at NYC museum of natural History

  • @almighty8111
    @almighty8111 12 днів тому

    For some reason, I always thought of the Meg looking like a giant bull shark. I mean look at the width and size of bull shark heads. Plus their adaptability and aggressiveness.

  • @KrisPSouls9258
    @KrisPSouls9258 Місяць тому +2

    No matter how big they actually got they were still huge sharks.

  • @Eligriv_maitre_constructeur
    @Eligriv_maitre_constructeur Місяць тому +2

    4546B vibes 😂

  • @deeya
    @deeya Місяць тому +1

    Otodontidae - The Big Boy club... yeah it wasn't just 1 giant shark.
    Of course, Megalodon is all the rage, gets all the attention. Gets to be in a movie with Jason Statham.
    To be fair, a movie called The Chub isn't very marketable.
    [sad Chubutensis noises...]

  • @OceanHedgehog
    @OceanHedgehog 17 днів тому

    It's always so interesting to see how science works. Hypothesis, model, new hypothesis challenges model and proposes a new one, new hypothesis challenges the methodology of the prior model, and the cycle repeats.

  • @dr4gon166
    @dr4gon166 Місяць тому +1

    Sounds to me like Mr. Shimada is just trying to make himself noticed by arguing with literally EVERYONE else that has had anything to do with megalodon. He's even argued with his own works!

  • @Collendune
    @Collendune 15 днів тому

    Funny when people tell me that megalodon had the strongest bite force of any animal but yet there hasn’t been any jaw bones found so they just got the great white and scaled up the bit force to its size.

  • @adrianglasgow9762
    @adrianglasgow9762 27 днів тому

    Good luck with getting to the bottom of this megladon size issue i look forward to your findings and keep up the good work

  • @rubenskiii
    @rubenskiii Місяць тому +1

    Megalodon is basically T-Rex of th sea as far as Hollywood is concerned. Honestly i am surprised nobody has made a movie of T-Rex(or Spinosaurus) duking it out with Megalodon in an epic bossfight.

    • @william3100
      @william3100 Місяць тому +2

      Probably because both land predators would lose automatically to megalodon, which was 10x bigger with a far bigger bite force than both of them.

  • @DMG020
    @DMG020 Місяць тому +1

    new meg just dropped

  • @HellYeahImIrish
    @HellYeahImIrish 15 днів тому +1

    Whatever the size and body type. It was a big fish that I'm glad it's extinct. There is enough creepy critters in the ocean, without having a greyhound bus with teeth swimming around.

  • @brotherjew1
    @brotherjew1 15 днів тому

    I’m waiting for a Dunkleosteus plot twist for the Meg.

  • @Desertfox8902
    @Desertfox8902 16 днів тому

    In the end, it turned out to be a great white shark due to the lack of fishing, the abundance of food, and the lack of a large number of sharks.

  • @urick15
    @urick15 Місяць тому +1

    Hey Ben, when are you gonna talk about giant ichtyosaurs?

  • @CaptainRufus
    @CaptainRufus Місяць тому +1

    Going by all the science basically the Meg was around 50 feet it seems. But possibly less of a fat chungus than many Great Whites and more Mako like. Which could make sense if it was an ambusher or whatnot on whales. Fast sneak attack to cripple one then eat after it dies or slows down enough to be left behind. Seems reasonable. I know we all want super huge mega murder fishie but it was still an absolute lad of a shark.

  • @USNVA11
    @USNVA11 Місяць тому

    I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express recently and I can definitely attest to the fact that Megalodon was a really big shark.

  • @liamkerr7183
    @liamkerr7183 10 днів тому

    I wonder what its hunting strategy was, the idea of an ambush predator that big just thrashing through the water to catch a whale is terrifying. I wonder what kind of turbulence in the water it would cause?

  • @TheVanillatech
    @TheVanillatech 7 днів тому

    Length : Bus and a half
    Height : Lampost
    Weight : 1300 baby crocodiles

  • @stevesellers-wilkinson7376
    @stevesellers-wilkinson7376 Місяць тому

    I love your channel, Ben. Just heading over to One World to see what shark-related content your Mum has to offer! Best wishes, Bud!

  • @ToxicAvengerFanboy
    @ToxicAvengerFanboy Місяць тому +1

    i like the term "murder guppy"

  • @spaceace1006
    @spaceace1006 Місяць тому +1

    For some reason, I never heard of Megalodon until 1977 when I was 19! The Magazine, from which I first read about it in, called it the "Giant White Shark"! At that point in history, it was believed that Megalodon was identical to the Great White, except much bigger! Also it was still in the Carcharodon! Not too long after the designation was changed to Carcharoles. Of course, sometime in the mid 1980s Scientists came to realize that the Megalodon had several differences in appearance from the GW. Also, Meg teeth are quite different in shape to those of the GW.

    • @berserkasaurusrex4233
      @berserkasaurusrex4233 26 днів тому

      No, they came to speculate that the meg had differences in appearance, they didn't realize anything. Literally everything besides the teeth and their diet of whales is pure speculation. That's why they make 1000 videos like this every week.

  • @ADreadBellow
    @ADreadBellow 5 днів тому

    Cannot wait for the early 1900 estimates to be correct the entire time.

  • @TheCrispyrollz
    @TheCrispyrollz Місяць тому +1

    I had Kenshu as a professor wonderful guy