I thought the comment defending the Titan's safety was so weird, in the face of the whole point that he's being interviewed right now--SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC HAPPENED WITH THE TITAN!!!
Well, hope he didn't put a lot of eggs in that investment basket. And to say they were not tourists is ridiculous. They may be experienced, but they're still tourists in a place where it is totally inappropriate to tour for so many many reasons. My great grandfather was a Titanic survivor and it sickens me. Anyway, they died living their dream and instantly. No need to feel sad for the for "adults" anyway. We should all be so lucky. Now leave the Titanic alone!!!
Exactly...not exactly an unbiased view here. An investor is clearly not gonna say "nah, it was a death trap, I can't believe I poured thousands of dollars into it. I want my money back".
What lawsuits? They most likely voluntarily signed a document that stated the risks, including possible death, and that they would hold the company harmless if such an occurrence came about during the excursion.
As a subsea engineer, equipment used in ultra deep water must be rigorously pressure tested at around 1.5x the working pressure and for many cycles without a single sign of failure in order to be approved. Materials and welds must follow strict guidelines defined by government institutes. Considering this sub was a pressure containing vessel for humans, it's insane that it was allowed to be used
@@Jolkabbo2210 times but at what depth? Obviously not 3 times its maximum depth like it did here. The result all though sad is a five less Republican votes in this country.
One aspect to this type of journey is that you cannot be claustrophobic. That 19 year old was petrified and I do not blame him. He probably felt squeezed and hanging out with old men was not his idea of fun. I truly liked James Cameron's interview because he seemed to be quite honest. He st the record straight. Such a tragic loss of life.... senseless!
@@ninja_rcactually that may be the exact reason. When you’re younger you feel a little more invincible. He may not have felt as much in danger as he was. It’s just very sad though.
Sadly, the arrogance of the CEO in thinking that it was OK to do his own thing without following established testing protocols is what put them in this avoidable situation. Pride precedes the fall.
@@wh7988Especially when the CEO is on tape talking about how they're can be "too much safety". There definitely wasn't too much safety on that craft, and we the taxpayers are footing the bill for trying to rescue the ultra wealthy from their own folly.
I can’t believe they called it the “Titan,” given the fact an 1898 novella called “The Wreck Of The Titan,” was about a ship that sank after hitting an iceberg. The Titanic sank fourteen years later, and was almost the exact size and speed of the fictional Titan. Just hearing the name would’ve sent me running.
He also said it was safe as can be. Safety was the number one issue. Obviously none of this is true. Stockton Rush said somethng to the effect that safety inhibits innovation. They built a piece of junk with a game boy controller and a carbon fiber hull that couldn't stand up to the intense pressure at great ocean depths. They built a death trap. The result is plain to see.
25 years ago I got my scuba certification before taking a trip to Jamaica. The most unsettling part of the three ocean dives I took was the uncomfortable feeling of being compressed by the weight of water. At 20 feet it was unsettling. At 25 feet it was claustrophobic. I haven't been diving since. It's dangerous down there.
They say that a hole the size of a sewing needle in the hull of that craft would compromise the entire submarine and full it with water. In two *microseconds.*
I have the same experience. I did one dive and never again..lol..these people are most likely already dead but they willingly got bolted into a mini capsule and descended 3500 m to snap images of a burial place. My thoughts are with them and their families but also to the thousands of immigrants drowning in the Mediterranean no one cares about.
@@melhorfutebol451the pressure at 4000 meters or 13000 feet is insane below the surface, there's a reason why only 10 vessels in the whole world are certified to go to those depths, -and all of them are unmanned-
Further, the craft was designed to reach depths of 4,000 meters (13,123 feet), where the Titanic rested. But, according to Lochridge, the passenger viewport was only certified for depths of up to 1,300 meters (4,265 feet), and OceanGate would not pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport certified for 4,000 meters.
This is heartbreaking. If the worst happened I hope it was quick. I understand the allure of the Titanic but it’s so deep and dangerous to reach, I really think it should just be left to rest so it doesn’t claim any more lives.
I used to be but I found a way to stop the fear. Its basically and old feeling like a notification not actual danger. Well in this case... The danger was real
I'm the parent who follows my kid around the playground, the one who insists that they wear helmets when riding bikes or scooters. I love having new, exciting experiences with my kids, but I would NEVER, EVER, do something like this with my child. What are they missing out on if they do not descend to 13000ft beneath the ocean or get a peek at a ship that sunk 110 years ago?
95% of people are like you. You experience life vicariously through a plasma screen while sitting on your couch. My childhood home was on the Smith River in Northern California. It's a class 7 whitewater river. When I was 5 years old, I wanted to go fishing by myself and my mother said when I could swim across the river I could go fishing alone. I taken swimming lessons so I had a lot of self confidence. My mother took me up river where the river dropped several feet and became raging white water rapids. I dove in an swam across and then back. From that point on I was a free ranging kid with the river in the back yard and the Stout Grove Redwood forest to ride my bicycle in. My mother worked for the USFS on Fire Lookouts and I would hike down 4 miles and hitch rides on logging trucks down the 14 miles to the river where I would spend the day swimming alone and sunbathing, occasionly encountering bears which is a normal event when you live in the mountains. Thankfully my mother wasn't a helocopter mom like you. I can't imagine a different childhood. That was in the late 1950's through the 1960's.. Also, I never had a single vaccine in my life, but I'll wager your child has at least 82 vaccines...
You're missing out on nothing by risking your life and others' lives like this. There's no coming back from 13,000 feet in the ocean with no emergency service
This guy Stockton rush ignored all experts who told him to slow down and go through the right process in certification of his submersible. He ultimately killed the other 4, yes there was a risk of death. But I think the other 4 didn’t realize how unsafe their sub was. They were under the impression this was a legit professional dive company and out their lives in their hands. Stupid but sad. Had Stockton had patience he could have had a great expedition company in the future but now nothing. I didn’t even know OceanGate was a thing or who Stockton rush was before this tragedy happened. Now he’s famous for being dead. Great legacy
These are not explorers these are rich people who do no research and pay a ridiculous amount of money to have someone escort them to a place just to say they’ve gone there and call themselves explorers
In regards to the missing submersible… As part of my Masters program, I studied the causes of aerospace incidents and disasters. This whole episode just gives me the chills. As the finance industry reminds us, past performance is not an indicator of future results.
It supposedly had about 5 successful trips to the bottom of the sea near Titanic. I’m just really saddened at how “Expirimental” with very little regulation it had.
@@kikaye38sh everyone else would think this no power sitting in the pitch black cold no space they would go mental waking up being in the same place….. burning oxygen 3 x the amount fighting or stressing out no way would a 19 year old not lose it mentally. Bet you they are blaming and losing it at stock…
@@davidgabriel5125 to a lot of people think that would be a more favorable quick ending but If the "banging sound" that "experts" claim holds true, and they did linger on in the cold darkness of the depths then time would have been torturous.
Yes they were in clean-up mode the minute coms were lost (sonar ping). Everyone on that ship knew what had happened. The coast guard was just protocol for answers and never could it have been a recovery. Just crazy stuff
Of course he is, he is one of investors in company :D, he would not speak against it because his money is at stake... hope he lost it all because of this tragedy
True and many of us watching and commenting here aren’t engineers nor have extensive knowledge of the sea, I also appreciate engineers making videos and commenting around by the way. We are just learning as we are going and we can just see and feel this is not safe. I had heard of people going down to where Titanic is for research purposes but as much as I have interest in the Titanic and the stories of the people I personally wouldn’t see myself going down there.
Oh yeah an investor in this death trap is definitely the person I would not interview seeing how so many other investors are sharing their expertise on just how dangerous this thing is
I'm claustrophobic. A trip inside this submersible is something that I would not be able to bear. I would have lost my mind at the first turning of the bolt as we were being bolted in. It's very difficult to allow myself to think about what those people are going through. I hope that there's a happy ending, but with every hour that goes by, it gets less likely.
@@videofauxxjima yeah but that one didn’t have water. I think the Thai one is worse since you can drown in terms of cave. The sub is equally bad since it’s bolted and can’t open even if it rises to the surface.
I wouldn’t even trust my mom to rebolt the sub, so I’d never go in there to begin with. I know not all people are claustrophobic, and not all people are anxious, but I can’t wrap my head around how there are humans in this world who dare to dive into the depths of the ocean inside a bolted soda can in which they can’t even stretch their legs or stand up in full height. Even the thought of it makes me sweat.
It was a Logitech controller. Besides the controller is actually a standard for military things. But yeah, just a controller and no extra stuff, I’ll pass. Besides I wouldn’t want to even get in to begin with.
Lmao i thought the same like he will say anything negative when he has monwy invested up the ying yang 🤦♂️this is a prime example of how sad the media is they do the same crap with joe oh hes great sure everyones broke he is fantastic 😅
600 humans drowned in the middle of Mediterranean Sea, the week before, & no one came to their rescue until it was too late. They didn’t even have time to jump overboard it went down so quick! 5 rich and privileged people pay $250k to enter their coffin and the world goes crazy. Humans are choosy with their compassion!
No. It's all terrible. This is just because it's a freakish nightmare come true--5 people, rich or not, are trapped deep in the ocean in an underwater coffin, possibly while alive. That's only 5 people on earth experiencing that. Remember, the poor Thai boys trapped in the flooded cave in 2018 got world-wide coverage, documentaries and movies.
@@jamesnguyen_1 I don't think so. Anything human made to withstand extreme stress can't do so indefinitely. There is a lifespan. If not for the entirety, than for parts that must be replaced. Just think of the Space Shuttles, there are only so many times they can safely launch and return before they have to be retired. Same goes for this submersible, but they never tested to know how much the sub could take before failure.
The fact that this guy thought it was safe goes to prove he had no idea about just how dangerous this actually was!!! And the 19 year old kid was NOT an experienced explorer!! Misinformed
@@foreignwarren7361 what you're saying is completely different to taking a trip in an experimental submersible with many flaws and pretty much no safety in mind.
@@notmanynamesleft so the first airplanes and spaceships weren't experimental? Every airplane is experimental....look at the comet, how many of those crashed....I don't get your point....and that sub had made the trip a few times.
@@foreignwarren7361 you're in the minority then,95% of people wouldn't have entered that machine to travel 2 and a half miles underwater even if they were paid to do so.
Ya, I love how the guy says everyone in that sub is a world expert on deep sea travel, completely ignoring the fact that one of the five people is a teenager.
Because most submarines are run by the military, they seem to have a fairly good safety record. Problem is, at a mile down (the halfway point) there really isn't much that a team could do no matter how experienced. Two most likely causes for loss of communication, the imploded or they lost power. Both mean they wouldn't survive. 96 hours of oxygen means little if they were sitting on the bottom of the ocean. As far as I know, the vessel isn't heated. Even if it were, it clearly is insufficient to combat the immense cold at those depths. The temp is just above freezing. 24-48 hours is probably max in a cigar tube to avoid hypothermia. US naval subs operate at significantly less than 1000 feet down. It is over 12,000 feet to Titanic.
What I find disturbing is the CEO of the company specifically said he did not want submariners with military experience. He said that anyone could operate his submersible.
@@joedanis2889 that is because an experienced submariner is very costly. The "know how" is the most expensive asset. Either way, this was the only sumergible with no certification, and that means no way to prove it had the appropriate tests.
@@joedanis2889 Well said, my overall impression was he (the CEO), didn't want to pay "professional" wages and he therefore wanted staff who would bend the rules. To go down in the 1st place being locked in from the outside and not having a back up contingency, ie a control line to the Mother Ship, a rescue recovery craft (with crew) on standby or having 24/7 comms. He was rash, flippant and woefully gung ho which implies he was in it for the money sadly. He stated he didn't want all his staff to be "white" 50 year old male retired submariners which to my mind also indicated he wanted 'yes' men, not experienced professionals!! Plus he also boasted that rules and regulations hindered "innovation" so in that sense he should never have been in his position or his job, AND if he sent anything down to the sea-bed, it should have been "unoccupied" this is a scandalous waste of intelligent life, it is a crime unfortunately. My heart goes out to all ❤
Exactly! Seeing it on a screen means you get to kiss your wife, and kids and live long enough to comb your grey hair and hopefully pass away peacefully in your sleep with a sweet dog at the foot of your bed. Going down to stare at a decaying ship where 1,500+ people perished in freezing waters is morbid curiosity and nothing more than an adrenaline, endorphin high. 🙏😑
I cannot even conceive of a situation where going a kajillion feet deep in the ocean to look at a century-old wreck of a tragic event in an unheated sorta submarine sounds like fun.
Reporter: was the submersible safe? Investor: absolutely. Hmm 🤔 This guy is more concerned about doing damage control for his investment than anything else
I don’t care how much experience one has. A human being is out of its natural habitat when submerged under water!!!! There’s nothing your experience can do to get you out of a bad situation. Humans are completely helpless under water.
Why are they wearing life vests onboard, when they cant leave the submerserve and it needs to be opened from the outside? for what reason are the life vests needed??
No heaters? Beyond me why a billionaire would bother to go down in a tube with only one window you have to fight four passengers to see out . No bathrooms no food no water to drink limited air and bolted in from the outside. What an excursion for a billionaire to take. Newsflash there's a Titanic video of the wreckage you can watch that on your big screen TV
Right, he probably could have afforded to build something way better on his own to do this trip. Why risk your life on this tin can with a Atari joystick?
I agree, 250k is petty change for a billionaire. I cant imagine why the father and son were on this , they could have gone in a much bigger and safer machine paying a couple of million! Would have probably lived today
A billionaire could probably charter a real scientific expedition, and go down there aboard Alvin or another proven, certified vessel. No, this was about making money, not research.
Pretty sure they underestimated the subtly of the study of the strength of materials. Cracks can propagate and I heard the CEO citing the fact he went 25x down there as if that’s the end all and be all of safety. It’s not. These things can take a lot of cycles to lead to failure. I’d put my money on hull implosion and instant death as they approached the bottom - fits all the info available. An engineer even quit bc of hull design. And the ceo himself said the certification bodies for submarines don’t allow carbon fiber and he wanted to be the first …
From what I read, that engineer didn't quit - he was fired and sued by OceanGate for voicing his concerns over the safety of the sub, and he was one of their best engineers.
This man is ridiculous. He’s an investor in the company of course he’s going to say it’s safe. A former employee predicted something like this was going to happen but instead of making changes the company chose to fire him. This is a company trying to save money and we’re impatient so product was not safe and now 5 lives are lost which did not have to happen:( especially sad for 19 yo who apparently was terrified to go and didn’t want to go but didn’t want to disappoint his father.
This reminds me of the Sampoong disaster in South Korea. They built a huge shopping centre, scrapped the plans and made it 1000 times more unstable, fired anyone who objected, used shoddy building materials, put a pool at the top and then heavy air conditioners. Cracks started to appear in the walls, but they didn't evacuate the building...except for management. Sounds like the same team took over the construction of this underwater vessel...
Well hate to say it. If they are stuck on the bottom or bobbing like a cork on the surface somewhere. They only have enough air till tomorrow morning. So basically if a miracle happens it has to be tonight.
After reading about a Debris Field near the Titanic it’s hard to imagine that experienced people would know what to do in a situation like that they most likely didn’t make it.
I feel that the people saying how the pressure is insane at just 25ft and that their head was being crushed by it don't even have a basic scuba diver training or used some super fast random company course that requires 3 dives with an instructor.
For those who do not know, and it looks like there are several of you…The kid did not want to go! He went to appease his dad. It was a Father’s Day “gift”. The kid was scared, and apparently the only one aboard with any common sense.
I hope all to be rescued or at least recovered. My next point is 250,000 dollars could feed and clothe many children and give medical assistance. Seems a waste to visit a graveyard
It is very sad that all 5 men on board passed away before the U.S. Coast Guard was even first notified. Going by the debris that has been found so far on the ocean floor near the TITANIC wreakage, the 5 men on board passed awayvery quickly and it is unclear if any remains of their bodies will ever be found. And, because of the waivers that all 5 men signed before the trip, there is a very good chance that their families will be unsuccessful in bringing a lawsuit against Ocean Gate.
@@MBBHMMthey have to be slowly and manually let out from outside with the hatch being at the side of the sub. If the life vests touch water caused by an accident, they are dead.
They should’ve brought a cameraman, because the cameraman always survives. Edit: I wrote this before I knew that they died, I hope that their families are ok.
Oh they’re already dead. US Navy released that on some of there sensors they picked up an implosion in the area before the mothership knew they went missing.
Considering he is an investor, former passenger, and has a conflict of interest, it is absurd to expect him to speak honestly.
I thought the comment defending the Titan's safety was so weird, in the face of the whole point that he's being interviewed right now--SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC HAPPENED WITH THE TITAN!!!
you're making a big assumption there.
I totally agree!!!!!!
I was about to comment the exact same thing man, great observation!
That part!
He's an investor in the company. I'm sure this will be a completely unbiased interview.
Ikr? Pure hogwash.
😂
Well, hope he didn't put a lot of eggs in that investment basket. And to say they were not tourists is ridiculous. They may be experienced, but they're still tourists in a place where it is totally inappropriate to tour for so many many reasons. My great grandfather was a Titanic survivor and it sickens me. Anyway, they died living their dream and instantly. No need to feel sad for the for "adults" anyway. We should all be so lucky. Now leave the Titanic alone!!!
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He is saying that it’s not tourists but really it is tourists with money, because money can get you anywhere these days
“Was it as safe as could be?”
“Absolutely.”
Yeah…..he’s an investor fearing the inevitable lawsuits.
Exactly...not exactly an unbiased view here. An investor is clearly not gonna say "nah, it was a death trap, I can't believe I poured thousands of dollars into it. I want my money back".
I feel the same vibes he's protecting this s*** too much.
Ikr🤣🤣🤣🤣
What lawsuits? They most likely voluntarily signed a document that stated the risks, including possible death, and that they would hold the company harmless if such an occurrence came about during the excursion.
SMH
As a subsea engineer, equipment used in ultra deep water must be rigorously pressure tested at around 1.5x the working pressure and for many cycles without a single sign of failure in order to be approved. Materials and welds must follow strict guidelines defined by government institutes. Considering this sub was a pressure containing vessel for humans, it's insane that it was allowed to be used
carbon fiber with the titanium that connects to the front cap epoxied on with brushes in an open warehouse. natural selection.
The Window was only rated for 1400m 💀
It's been said that the Titan has gone under ocean ten times prior to this incident. I suppose that's why it was presumed it's safe.
International waters
@@Jolkabbo2210 times but at what depth? Obviously not 3 times its maximum depth like it did here. The result all though sad is a five less Republican votes in this country.
One aspect to this type of journey is that you cannot be claustrophobic. That 19 year old was petrified and I do not blame him. He probably felt squeezed and hanging out with old men was not his idea of fun. I truly liked James Cameron's interview because he seemed to be quite honest. He st the record straight. Such a tragic loss of life.... senseless!
He came for father's day what a way to go...
How do you know what that 19 year old felt?
@@MultiSciGeek Because 40 years ago I was 19 and I remember what it was like.
I don't think that 19 years old boy had enough experience behind him to decide to take this kind of trip. The safety measures were terribly neglected.
Plus why would you take a huge risk when your that young if you were way older that’s understandable
I had the same thoughts when Oliver Daemen, an 18-year-old flew with Bezos' Blue Origin flight into space.
Definately😳
@@ninja_rcthis mission was nearly impossible no one should take this risk get a robot to take this mission.
@@ninja_rcactually that may be the exact reason. When you’re younger you feel a little more invincible. He may not have felt as much in danger as he was. It’s just very sad though.
Sadly, the arrogance of the CEO in thinking that it was OK to do his own thing without following established testing protocols is what put them in this avoidable situation. Pride precedes the fall.
And greed. Charging $250k for such risk with little to no backup emergency services
How much more would those safety precautions had been? Surely not that much. Why not spend the extra money?
Money … for a life … : speechless …. 😮
Some people need not money to elon stuff
This is why arrogant sin is the most serious.
He's an investor. Do you really think he has an objective point of view??? He's just trying to do damage control, so that his investment can survive.
@@cory8837 Not in the title of the video, as it should be.
damage control? he got swindled into investing into a stupid company
thank you. When he said "safety was our number one protocol" I was like ain't no way
@@wh7988Especially when the CEO is on tape talking about how they're can be "too much safety". There definitely wasn't too much safety on that craft, and we the taxpayers are footing the bill for trying to rescue the ultra wealthy from their own folly.
@@jamesnguyen_1and is now attempting to limit the damage to said investment. Damage control.
Interviewer: Was it as safe as it possibly could be?
Oceangate Investor: Absolutley!
2:20 He's probably right. It was as safe AS IT COULD BE (as built).
I can’t believe they called it the “Titan,” given the fact an 1898 novella called “The Wreck Of The Titan,” was about a ship that sank after hitting an iceberg. The Titanic sank fourteen years later, and was almost the exact size and speed of the fictional Titan. Just hearing the name would’ve sent me running.
Yes I was saying the same thing!
I didn’t know it was fictional tho
Thanks for the fun fact, I never knew this
not all titan names are bad what about titan gel my p*nis got bigger using it
That's what I thought. Rush named the ship after two cursed ship. One I'd fictional.
Seriously?! Experienced tourists?! 19 yr old??!!
Lol exactly. The kid can barely drive a car. How pathetic these people are.
He is BSing because he is an investor.
Nobody believes him, and he knows it.
He also said it was safe as can be. Safety was the number one issue. Obviously none of this is true. Stockton Rush said somethng to the effect that safety inhibits innovation. They built a piece of junk with a game boy controller and a carbon fiber hull that couldn't stand up to the intense pressure at great ocean depths. They built a death trap. The result is plain to see.
25 years ago I got my scuba certification before taking a trip to Jamaica. The most unsettling part of the three ocean dives I took was the uncomfortable feeling of being compressed by the weight of water. At 20 feet it was unsettling. At 25 feet it was claustrophobic. I haven't been diving since. It's dangerous down there.
They say that a hole the size of a sewing needle in the hull of that craft would compromise the entire submarine and full it with water.
In two *microseconds.*
@@BlarnixWoah...you serious?
I have the same experience. I did one dive and never again..lol..these people are most likely already dead but they willingly got bolted into a mini capsule and descended 3500 m to snap images of a burial place. My thoughts are with them and their families but also to the thousands of immigrants drowning in the Mediterranean no one cares about.
@@melhorfutebol451the pressure at 4000 meters or 13000 feet is insane below the surface, there's a reason why only 10 vessels in the whole world are certified to go to those depths, -and all of them are unmanned-
@@someguy6152 that's cool. You learn something new everyday. Cheers man
Further, the craft was designed to reach depths of 4,000 meters (13,123 feet), where the Titanic rested. But, according to Lochridge, the passenger viewport was only certified for depths of up to 1,300 meters (4,265 feet), and OceanGate would not pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport certified for 4,000 meters.
Oddly enough, the viewport was found intact, and was not the point of failure.
@@jonraybon8582 the viewpoint being found in tact is not an indication it didn't fail silly boy. They still have no idea what happened
@@jonraybon8582carbon fibre "stuck" to titanium. Both substances have different strengths and reactions to pressure. BOING
@@simpicusmaximusrude so b
Facts.
This is heartbreaking. If the worst happened I hope it was quick. I understand the allure of the Titanic but it’s so deep and dangerous to reach, I really think it should just be left to rest so it doesn’t claim any more lives.
Well said.
Absolutely 💯 😢
it was confirmed that the sub exploded in a blink of an eye by all the ocean pressure, so no they didn't suffer.
I'm claustrophobic
Just the thought of being in that tiny space that deep under water gives me panic attacks
Me too.
They bolt the latch down on the outside 😮
@@joetatoesniff9525 ok
Me too...No friggin way!😢
I used to be but I found a way to stop the fear. Its basically and old feeling like a notification not actual danger. Well in this case... The danger was real
I'm the parent who follows my kid around the playground, the one who insists that they wear helmets when riding bikes or scooters. I love having new, exciting experiences with my kids, but I would NEVER, EVER, do something like this with my child. What are they missing out on if they do not descend to 13000ft beneath the ocean or get a peek at a ship that sunk 110 years ago?
That was my mom she’s the only one who drove me and my friends home at nite made sure I was in bed before she even closed an eye
@@matteye bless her heart
95% of people are like you. You experience life vicariously through a plasma screen while sitting on your couch.
My childhood home was on the Smith River in Northern California. It's a class 7 whitewater river. When I was 5 years old, I wanted to go fishing by myself and my mother said when I could swim across the river I could go fishing alone. I taken swimming lessons so I had a lot of self confidence. My mother took me up river where the river dropped several feet and became raging white water rapids. I dove in an swam across and then back. From that point on I was a free ranging kid with the river in the back yard and the Stout Grove Redwood forest to ride my bicycle in. My mother worked for the USFS on Fire Lookouts and I would hike down 4 miles and hitch rides on logging trucks down the 14 miles to the river where I would spend the day swimming alone and sunbathing, occasionly encountering bears which is a normal event when you live in the mountains.
Thankfully my mother wasn't a helocopter mom like you. I can't imagine a different childhood.
That was in the late 1950's through the 1960's..
Also, I never had a single vaccine in my life, but I'll wager your child has at least 82 vaccines...
Well they're missing out to visit the past... but with 13,000 and you underneath with that much water. I do agree you're not missing out on anything
You're missing out on nothing by risking your life and others' lives like this. There's no coming back from 13,000 feet in the ocean with no emergency service
I like how they all have life jackets on like it’s gonna help if something goes wrong.
I guess that's for when the submersible resurfaces
@@constantinegeist1854 yeah idk seems more like a physiological comfort thing.
I think the banging sound they have heard, was of their souls knocking on heavens gate, under the ocean
This guy Stockton rush ignored all experts who told him to slow down and go through the right process in certification of his submersible. He ultimately killed the other 4, yes there was a risk of death. But I think the other 4 didn’t realize how unsafe their sub was. They were under the impression this was a legit professional dive company and out their lives in their hands. Stupid but sad. Had Stockton had patience he could have had a great expedition company in the future but now nothing. I didn’t even know OceanGate was a thing or who Stockton rush was before this tragedy happened. Now he’s famous for being dead. Great legacy
These are not explorers these are rich people who do no research and pay a ridiculous amount of money to have someone escort them to a place just to say they’ve gone there and call themselves explorers
@@honeybee5099 lol
@@honeybee5099do you think he was experienced enough to think a knockoff game co troller was the best way to operate a submarine?
@@WithLoveAshley and a wireless one at that XD
@@raiden72 XD times ♾️ 🤦🏻♀️
@@WithLoveAshleyBURN!
In regards to the missing submersible…
As part of my Masters program, I studied the causes of aerospace incidents and disasters. This whole episode just gives me the chills. As the finance industry reminds us, past performance is not an indicator of future results.
You got that right.
Challenger proved that as well
Well said
It supposedly had about 5 successful trips to the bottom of the sea near Titanic. I’m just really saddened at how “Expirimental” with very little regulation it had.
@@captaincrunch1707With every trip, it developed more cracks, and the safety rating was downgraded.
That nineteen-year-old boy was not an experienced adventurer who understood the possibilities. At 19 you feel invincible. .
Imagine being the father in that craft counting down the hours to your sons demise and thinking "I put him here."
@@kikaye38sh everyone else would think this no power sitting in the pitch black cold no space they would go mental waking up being in the same place….. burning oxygen 3 x the amount fighting or stressing out no way would a 19 year old not lose it mentally. Bet you they are blaming and losing it at stock…
@@kikaye38 come on they most likely imploded on sunday
@@davidgabriel5125 to a lot of people think that would be a more favorable quick ending but If the "banging sound" that "experts" claim holds true, and they did linger on in the cold darkness of the depths then time would have been torturous.
@@illuminatingphoenix395 One can only imagine
This dude is literally defending this as safe as if we can't just see with our eyes
Yes they were in clean-up mode the minute coms were lost (sonar ping). Everyone on that ship knew what had happened. The coast guard was just protocol for answers and never could it have been a recovery. Just crazy stuff
Of course he is, he is one of investors in company :D, he would not speak against it because his money is at stake... hope he lost it all because of this tragedy
True and many of us watching and commenting here aren’t engineers nor have extensive knowledge of the sea, I also appreciate engineers making videos and commenting around by the way.
We are just learning as we are going and we can just see and feel this is not safe.
I had heard of people going down to where Titanic is for research purposes but as much as I have interest in the Titanic and the stories of the people I personally wouldn’t see myself going down there.
I had a patient a couple of years ago, and he was on subs in WWII. I was just in awe at the idea of conducting war on a submarine
Oh yeah an investor in this death trap is definitely the person I would not interview seeing how so many other investors are sharing their expertise on just how dangerous this thing is
Exactly!!!
@@jone8626 Exactly
Aaron stumbling over his words while he reads notes he got from the lawyers.
I'm claustrophobic. A trip inside this submersible is something that I would not be able to bear.
I would have lost my mind at the first turning of the bolt as we were being bolted in.
It's very difficult to allow myself to think about what those people are going through.
I hope that there's a happy ending, but with every hour that goes by, it gets less likely.
What is worse? This or the Thai cave rescue? I think this is worse since it’s more cramped.
@@videofauxxjima yeah but that one didn’t have water. I think the Thai one is worse since you can drown in terms of cave. The sub is equally bad since it’s bolted and can’t open even if it rises to the surface.
I wouldn’t even trust my mom to rebolt the sub, so I’d never go in there to begin with. I know not all people are claustrophobic, and not all people are anxious, but I can’t wrap my head around how there are humans in this world who dare to dive into the depths of the ocean inside a bolted soda can in which they can’t even stretch their legs or stand up in full height. Even the thought of it makes me sweat.
The submarine imploded 😢
Well, no happy ending, eh?
An investor saying it's as safe as possible...hmm... grain of salt anyone?
“It’s designed to be as safe as possible” lies an investor. He must know that’s not true.
You couldn’t PAY me $250,000 to go into a sub like that! Fuhgeddaboutit!
Pay for stopping the war in Ukraine! No, they want to feed giant Fish, I believe that sub in a fish stomach!
Me neither
@@nlabik Ya never know!! 😆👍
Couldn't pay me Millions to do this. Nope
Why in the world would you want to pay that and the risk is so big. Nope not me. Xbox remote wow
And the guys kid is just so wow
Yupp……it was his turn to play 🎮🎮🎮🎮🎮🎮🎮
Because they have so much money they can't appreciate the little things in life.
It was a Logitech controller. Besides the controller is actually a standard for military things. But yeah, just a controller and no extra stuff, I’ll pass. Besides I wouldn’t want to even get in to begin with.
Asking an "investor" in Oceangate these questions is worthless.
Lmao i thought the same like he will say anything negative when he has monwy invested up the ying yang 🤦♂️this is a prime example of how sad the media is they do the same crap with joe oh hes great sure everyones broke he is fantastic 😅
rubbish, logical fallacy, just because he's an investor he must be a liar about this. Right.
@@geofreyraw, are you from the PR team? Good luck in your job search!
600 humans drowned in the middle of Mediterranean Sea, the week before, & no one came to their rescue until it was too late. They didn’t even have time to jump overboard it went down so quick!
5 rich and privileged people pay $250k to enter their coffin and the world goes crazy.
Humans are choosy with their compassion!
No. It's all terrible. This is just because it's a freakish nightmare come true--5 people, rich or not, are trapped deep in the ocean in an underwater coffin, possibly while alive. That's only 5 people on earth experiencing that. Remember, the poor Thai boys trapped in the flooded cave in 2018 got world-wide coverage, documentaries and movies.
Safety was not the #1 protocol. Even the engineer wouldn't get on this thing.
This guy is filming from Clearwater, Florida and he’s an investor. Enough said.
It’s time to let The Titanic rest in peace for eternity.
Agreed. We found it, now let it be. Seeing the underwater images of it is enough for me.
Amen
Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.
Luke 21:33 AMP
More visits to the wreck just deteriorate the structure faster than just leaving it alone.
Hearing facts about this whole thing makes it sound like it was all one big risk.
seems like sabotage
@@jamesnguyen_1 I don't think so. Anything human made to withstand extreme stress can't do so indefinitely. There is a lifespan. If not for the entirety, than for parts that must be replaced. Just think of the Space Shuttles, there are only so many times they can safely launch and return before they have to be retired. Same goes for this submersible, but they never tested to know how much the sub could take before failure.
It was ignorance and thinking money without brains could solve all problems.
Very useful to interview an investor. Maybe the engineer who got fired for raising security concerns didn't pick up the phone
The fact that this guy thought it was safe goes to prove he had no idea about just how dangerous this actually was!!! And the 19 year old kid was NOT an experienced explorer!! Misinformed
It amazes me how people can have so much money yet have an IQ of around room temperature.
Perhaps of a freezer temperature
What you on about, if people didn't do this and push the envelope we wouldn't get airplanes spaceships and deep dive submersibles.
@@foreignwarren7361 what you're saying is completely different to taking a trip in an experimental submersible with many flaws and pretty much no safety in mind.
@@notmanynamesleft so the first airplanes and spaceships weren't experimental? Every airplane is experimental....look at the comet, how many of those crashed....I don't get your point....and that sub had made the trip a few times.
@@foreignwarren7361 you're in the minority then,95% of people wouldn't have entered that machine to travel 2 and a half miles underwater even if they were paid to do so.
This guy's an investor telling us that it all safety
Better get a lawyer Aaron..trying to say this spit and glue toy boat was safe ...you lie bro OBVIOUSLY
I don't think the 19 year old had any experience
19 year old kid real experienced explorer. PH was an oceanographer not a submarine expert.
what a horrible thing to be trapped in. I pray for them!
They die alrady🤣🤣🤣
This would have been one of the fastest ways to die. It’s possibly as fast as letting fat man or little boy go off next to you
They’re not trapped they got crushed instantly halfway down
@@chadgrov much better than suffocating without oxygen in the freezing cold water
It would be horrible to be trapped in there. So look on the bright side, they never were.
I’m pretty sure the teenager was a tourist
Ya, I love how the guy says everyone in that sub is a world expert on deep sea travel, completely ignoring the fact that one of the five people is a teenager.
Because most submarines are run by the military, they seem to have a fairly good safety record. Problem is, at a mile down (the halfway point) there really isn't much that a team could do no matter how experienced. Two most likely causes for loss of communication, the imploded or they lost power. Both mean they wouldn't survive.
96 hours of oxygen means little if they were sitting on the bottom of the ocean. As far as I know, the vessel isn't heated. Even if it were, it clearly is insufficient to combat the immense cold at those depths. The temp is just above freezing. 24-48 hours is probably max in a cigar tube to avoid hypothermia.
US naval subs operate at significantly less than 1000 feet down. It is over 12,000 feet to Titanic.
you can do a lot of things before diving, but this was an experimental sumergible, ran by a playstation controller
What I find disturbing is the CEO of the company specifically said he did not want submariners with military experience. He said that anyone could operate his submersible.
@@joedanis2889 that is because an experienced submariner is very costly. The "know how" is the most expensive asset. Either way, this was the only sumergible with no certification, and that means no way to prove it had the appropriate tests.
@@joedanis2889 Shun intelligence at your own peril.
@@joedanis2889
Well said, my overall impression was he (the CEO), didn't want to pay "professional" wages and he therefore wanted staff who would bend the rules.
To go down in the 1st place being locked in from the outside and not having a back up contingency, ie a control line to the Mother Ship, a rescue recovery craft (with crew) on standby or having 24/7 comms.
He was rash, flippant and woefully gung ho which implies he was in it for the money sadly.
He stated he didn't want all his staff to be "white" 50 year old male retired submariners which to my mind also indicated he wanted 'yes' men, not experienced professionals!!
Plus he also boasted that rules and regulations hindered "innovation" so in that sense he should never have been in his position or his job, AND if he sent anything down to the sea-bed, it should have been "unoccupied" this is a scandalous waste of intelligent life, it is a crime unfortunately.
My heart goes out to all ❤
He is an investor, he isn't going to say anything bad.
"Designed as safely as possible" ok guy
This kind of exploration is what robots are for. What's the difference between seeing it with your own eyes on a screen or through a porthole?
I think it's the whole "seeing it with your own eyes" part. Don't ya think?
Exactly!
Seeing it on a screen means you get to kiss your wife, and kids and live long enough to comb your grey hair and hopefully pass away peacefully in your sleep with a sweet dog at the foot of your bed.
Going down to stare at a decaying ship where 1,500+ people perished in freezing waters is morbid curiosity and nothing more than an adrenaline, endorphin high.
🙏😑
I cannot even conceive of a situation where going a kajillion feet deep in the ocean to look at a century-old wreck of a tragic event in an unheated sorta submarine sounds like fun.
IKR! I can't even watch Das Boot without hyperventilating...
at $250,000 each.
It appears Mr. Newman can kiss his investment goodbye.
Reporter: was the submersible safe?
Investor: absolutely.
Hmm 🤔
This guy is more concerned about doing damage control for his investment than anything else
I don’t care how much experience one has. A human being is out of its natural habitat when submerged under water!!!! There’s nothing your experience can do to get you out of a bad situation. Humans are completely helpless under water.
The owner of the submarine company said that he preferred “diversity over experience“
There is no GPS, or a good reliable communication system attached to this Submersible?😳😳😳 That's super unprofesional and unsafe!
Right laser pointers or emergency lights or sirens underwater flares any thing.
Thinking GPS works underwater is like super uneducated like.
It's doesn't work under water
They didn’t take a GPS cause they were planning to call AAA roadside service had they gotten into any trouble.
Uneducated is using an GameCube controller a Logitech keyboard and an IPad to pilot a submersible to see the Titanic in.
So I am to understand that they trained for every possible scenario, except for this one
Why are they wearing life vests onboard, when they cant leave the submerserve and it needs to be opened from the outside? for what reason are the life vests needed??
Maybe for the time at the surface.
1:00 "designed to be as safe as possible" said with a straight face
Agreed it was specifically designed NOT to be as safe as possible according to the CEO. Nutter
No heaters? Beyond me why a billionaire would bother to go down in a tube with only one window you have to fight four passengers to see out . No bathrooms no food no water to drink limited air and bolted in from the outside. What an excursion for a billionaire to take. Newsflash there's a Titanic video of the wreckage you can watch that on your big screen TV
They wanted something to brag about!
Right, he probably could have afforded to build something way better on his own to do this trip. Why risk your life on this tin can with a Atari joystick?
I agree, 250k is petty change for a billionaire. I cant imagine why the father and son were on this , they could have gone in a much bigger and safer machine paying a couple of million! Would have probably lived today
A billionaire could probably charter a real scientific expedition, and go down there aboard Alvin or another proven, certified vessel. No, this was about making money, not research.
Appointment with Death is pre-determined and never missed.
Sounds like he has an investment to protect.
Yeahhhh
Pretty sure they underestimated the subtly of the study of the strength of materials. Cracks can propagate and I heard the CEO citing the fact he went 25x down there as if that’s the end all and be all of safety. It’s not. These things can take a lot of cycles to lead to failure. I’d put my money on hull implosion and instant death as they approached the bottom - fits all the info available. An engineer even quit bc of hull design. And the ceo himself said the certification bodies for submarines don’t allow carbon fiber and he wanted to be the first …
From what I read, that engineer didn't quit - he was fired and sued by OceanGate for voicing his concerns over the safety of the sub, and he was one of their best engineers.
Managed to find his name if it's the same guy we're talking about. His name is David Lochridge.
Got the whole titanic experience the people that died
A 19 year old who was terrified of going is NOT experienced.
Very so true...
This man is ridiculous. He’s an investor in the company of course he’s going to say it’s safe. A former employee predicted something like this was going to happen but instead of making changes the company chose to fire him. This is a company trying to save money and we’re impatient so product was not safe and now 5 lives are lost which did not have to happen:( especially sad for 19 yo who apparently was terrified to go and didn’t want to go but didn’t want to disappoint his father.
This reminds me of the Sampoong disaster in South Korea. They built a huge shopping centre, scrapped the plans and made it 1000 times more unstable, fired anyone who objected, used shoddy building materials, put a pool at the top and then heavy air conditioners. Cracks started to appear in the walls, but they didn't evacuate the building...except for management. Sounds like the same team took over the construction of this underwater vessel...
Unfortunately some people are the way they are.
My bath tub is dafe
It didn't have any backup systems he's just saying that because he's invested in Oceangate.
Former passenger? He’s more like a representative of the company. He’s an investor and when he talks about the company he says “we”
This is a man who never seen danger in his life before
And here ladies and gentlemen we can see a prime example of how investors just say 💩 when it comes to their investments
Well hate to say it. If they are stuck on the bottom or bobbing like a cork on the surface somewhere. They only have enough air till tomorrow morning. So basically if a miracle happens it has to be tonight.
19 year old is so experienced. Nonsense, all he’s worried about is how his shares are going worthless in a few days time.
I'm sure his son didn't have any experience!! He didn't even want to go..
The fact the sub was hit by lightning frying the electronics before the dive could have been a sign?
An investor..... and I heard sssooo many red flags it had. Down playing the 'incident'
After reading about a Debris Field near the Titanic it’s hard to imagine that experienced people would know what to do in a situation like that they most likely didn’t make it.
It is a millisecond death … they wouldn’t have felt anything
Don't we usually add "gate" to things that did not turn out well?
Oh no!
ANOTHER COINCIDENCE, JUST MAKE A LIST AND PUT IT HERE WHEN ITS COMPLETE
He's an investor of course he will say good things about oceangate. You guys got the wrong person.
So he went down in Titan in 2021 and only saw the hull of The Titanic - even if I had the money I wouldn’t risk my life !!
He's from Clearwater Florida. Scientology owns that town. He's obviously a scientologist. Very creepy.
Dude trying so hard to defend his investment even as the CEO got imploded into paste lmao
Thank you for saying that he's an investor. That explains a lot
This guy just sounds like an investor. Hoping the stocks don’t drop. Still defending the Titan after all of this.
I feel that the people saying how the pressure is insane at just 25ft and that their head was being crushed by it don't even have a basic scuba diver training or used some super fast random company course that requires 3 dives with an instructor.
This truly is my nightmare
The arrogance. Unbelievable. They should use this video in court.
court? they chose to go and signed waivers.
@@OnHisDime Negligence will counteract any contract signed. As the company did not fulfil the contract, the family have a cause to claim.
@@OnHisDimethe waviers mean nothing since the company cut corners.
@@jhnyjoejoe69 yes, sir!
For those who do not know, and it looks like there are several of you…The kid did not want to go! He went to appease his dad. It was a Father’s Day “gift”. The kid was scared, and apparently the only one aboard with any common sense.
for those of you who don't know.......SDG.
@@mycammediayou rescue animals too? ♥️
@@TinaRN yes we do - any that need help - mostly kittens and cats - they are thrown away here by the thousands every day.
This dude is saying, yea it's safe as it can be.
And the sub just popped 😂
Not a former titan passenger. More like survivor.
I hope all to be rescued or at least recovered.
My next point is 250,000 dollars could feed and clothe many children and give medical assistance. Seems a waste to visit a graveyard
How much did you give to charity last week?
I hope you are not american..
It is very sad that all 5 men on board passed away before the U.S. Coast Guard was even first notified. Going by the debris that has been found so far on the ocean floor near the TITANIC wreakage, the 5 men on board passed awayvery quickly and it is unclear if any remains of their bodies will ever be found. And, because of the waivers that all 5 men signed before the trip, there is a very good chance that their families will be unsuccessful in bringing a lawsuit against Ocean Gate.
I am sorry - did we see images of passengers wearing life vests? Seriously! Under what submarine emergency would a life vest be of any safety use?
When you resurface and the craft is damaged and you have to abandon it.
@@MBBHMM I suspect when the craft is damaged sadly you are not going to resurface.
@@MBBHMMthey have to be slowly and manually let out from outside with the hatch being at the side of the sub. If the life vests touch water caused by an accident, they are dead.
So what’s left of their bodies can float up 😂😂😂
So the bodies can float to the surface.
Notice the hesitancy … he knew …”as safe as possible” versus it is a “safe” vessel..
Like asking politicians to audit themselves
Everybody is talking about banging a wrench against the vessel, making sound , but ...there it is a wrench onboard?.....I don't think so
Probably banging they're heads regretting the mistake they made ,still not shut how hard you can bang in a sub made of carbon fiber.
To take your 19 year old son down that deep. I don't understand.
They should’ve brought a cameraman, because the cameraman always survives.
Edit: I wrote this before I knew that they died, I hope that their families are ok.
Making jokes whilst they're dying isn't funny at all
Always!! at least we would’ve had Intel
Oh they’re already dead. US Navy released that on some of there sensors they picked up an implosion in the area before the mothership knew they went missing.
This young man was terrified about going down but he wanted to please his father, so I don't know how experience he was.
“It’s as safe as it can be”, I beg to differ. He was still playing salesman role
😢they’re all dead at jun22 at 8-9 Am.The French Navy found debris all over the sea bed..