I live on a pretty quiet dead end street. My landlord/boss decided that I’m gonna reno my apartment, not just cosmetic, but structural changes, plumbing, electrical etc. no permits pulled, none of it is going to be inspected. All my neighbours are pretty awesome, they either just mind their own business or are in the middle of their own “illegal” construction projects. I find it neat that about 15 different households all have this unspoken agreement of don’t tell on me and I won’t tell on you.
My biggest worry about applying for permits for work I do at my home is that the inspector will come by and see work that was done, without permit, from back in the 90s, and demand that drywall be torn out from the entire basement and around the kitchen where a wall was removed That alone is what stops me cold in my tracks regarding permits.
@@gregvancom I got the same situation, my kitchen was redone without a permit many years ago, and now I am finishing part of my basement. leaning towards not getting a permit since its just a few simple outlets. Don't want to risk them looking at the kitchen. Maybe I should take pictures of the electrical work in case I get dinged in the future?
You're on the hook for everything that was ever done at that home prior to you owning it. I always disclose when I sell that unpermitted work might have been done at the home.
The problem is if your house was built years ago to a different code it's only grandfathered until you modify it. If you apply for a building permit for anything minor you will have to upgrade the entire house to the latest building codes. I called them up and asked so I decided to not do the work.
Permits are a contract: Elements of a legal contract are If one party is threatened and forced to sign a contract, the agreement is considered void. According to a federal law, a . Blackmailing and threatening someone's life are situations that will make a contract invalid. Duress Unlawful pressure exerted upon a person to coerce that person to perform an act that he or she ordinarily would not perform. Duress also encompasses the same harm, threats, or restraint exercised upon the affected individual's spouse, child, or parent.
Power and violence is all that the state understands. Unless you are powerful enough to destroy it, or make yourself more trouble than your worth it will gladly enslave you. Protest and duress, habeus corpus, freedom of speech, etc. All just a lies. Smoke and mirrors propped up by a bunch of lawyers that couldn't give two shits less about our "rights". If you want freedom seek power. Just look at the US invasions into sovereign countries. The UN doesn't say anything about it because there's nothing they can do about it. The US doesn't invade NK because they don't want nukes flying in every direction. I know I am a slave to the state. I can't resist. Yet. But I am working to become as powerful as I can in this system and as soon as enough of us can admit the truth then maybe we can join forces and kill the bastards.
Yeah I finished my basement completely, even added another electrical panel, did all the plumbing 20 years ago without a permit. I have a big basement with 4 rooms and a full bath now, without a permit. Following finishing the basement I had a big detached garage built which has a basement. I did get a permit for that but it was never final inspected. Now with all the building permit happening in my county I am afraid to sell my house. I am thinking they may ask me to rip off all the drywall to the studs. Everything is to code and has worked fine for 20 years. Now I am retired and wife wants to move to a smaller house. I am afraid to put the house on the market. The inspector for the detached was very nonchalant.
Exactly !!!! There concern is money and control that’s all. I tried getting permits for every project and quickly discovered they wouldn’t come out for final inspections, etc after they got paid. So safety and the job being done correctly is the issue then why skip out on final inspections.. it’s all bs
My dad was a carpenter and construction worker for around 20 years, i just recently moved on very very short notice to my grandmas house. There was no room in the house for me to stay in so my dad and i built a completely freestanding room. We did not touch or modify any of the existing structure, other than tap-conning the walls to the concrete floor. Does this require a permit or anything? It is not hooked up to the houses electrical system or plumbing either, just a drywall box basically.
Most permanent structures attached to an existing building or with concrete foundations usually require permits, but you would need to check with your local planning or building department for more information.
it's not to be Negative I love to see people with solutions not trouble makers just because your licence or you are a construction company,you know the rules and regulations but I know that you can not make mistakes coz you are been watched by the authorities ,why because anything you do is big money to make or loose..so of course you want to scare people but like he says that not everthing is in the drain...
I live in Dallas. I did everything "right" and pulled a permit because all the "pro" forum posts I read about it saying, "Don't be stupid. Get your permits," made me sufficiently paranoid, especially since I see "Code Enforcement" vehicles driving around East Dallas all the time. I provided detailed architectural drawings, etc. Dallas normally requires a contractor ID for approving permits, but they have a "homeowner's exemption" if you're doing your own work. I knew I was a rare case when I applied for the permit and had to inform the clerk that they have that exemption. The clerk had to confer with their manager to know what I was talking about. Fast forward to my first inspection (footings). I made sure everything was just right - depths, widths, soil compaction, etc. When the inspector got here, he didn't pull out a tape measure or anything. He just looked around for a few seconds and green tagged me. His demeanor very clearly said, "Why did you pull a permit for this?" Then, when the second inspector came to do the framing inspection, he said out loud, "You know, most people don't pull permits for these." He wasn't telling me he was impressed with my rule following. He was telling me I could have done it without a permit. He didn't pull a tape measure or test torque on ledger bolts or check that my fasteners/hangers were correct or... pretty much anything. I dunno... maybe he could tell I over-engineered it. Dallas's code clearly states permit requirements. My deck is about 900+ sqft, is attached to the house, and is over 36" off the ground in some areas. It checks all the boxes for requiring a permit. It's clear to me now that Dallas's permitting office is full of Ron Swanson types. I'm guessing they're a lot more concerned about dwellings being up to code, but they definitely seem to have better things to do than inspect DIY deck builds (even big ones). Live and learn I guess!
I seen them look plenty of times on my projects and sign it off with out measuring any thing. Thanks for sharing, but if you can remove any names, other wise I will have to remove your whole comment.
@@gregvancom are you referring to the Ron Swanson reference? That's a character on the fictional TV show "Parks and Rec" played by Nick Offerman. His character is known for his disdain for bureaucracy even though he works for the city. When he was asked for a permit in one of the show's episodes, he handed the guy a piece of paper that simply had "I do what I want" written on it.
Gross. They should include Vaseline at close of sale. I hate politics and I'm about to get involved locally to fix overly restrictive rules. They are being used as a tool in class warfare. Rich move in, invest in their place and get it up to code then call on your slight infractions that everyone else has too and have no money to get to fixing. They send the city. 250$ a day for 5 days until either cleaned up or they put a lean on your home. The lean has to be paid in full in 30 days. It's generally around 4k. No one on my street has 4k. But the investment owner next door who moved here from NY does. And she wants my house and the one next to it for cheap af. The bank did the same thing to my family growing up. They wanted our land and sought every legal inch they had available to take it. Greed will not win. Corruption of our government for profit is not American, not justified or right. It is created by the people , for the people yet we treat businesses and commercial investors better than any human.
Their main concern is to stop boomers from doing half ass shitty work then overpricing their fucked up home to the next generation, as they have done with everything else.
I bought a house with unpermitted bedroom additions. We asked the seller about it and they just shrugged and said "It's already there when we bought it." So now I'm building another addition and I'll be using the same phrase if I ever have to sell. "It's already there when we bought it." There are thousands upon thousands of unpermitted work in CA, join the fun.
These things can turn into nightmares example is friend bought an house is on a hillside property. The block wall between the homes rises as the elevation rises some areas it's 7 feet tall others it's 4 feet one side other side it's 6 feet. He dug out 18 " trench on his side which is the lower side the neighbor was higher up wanted to put in an underground conduit for a hot tub. The bottom of the wall footer was exposed because on his side is lower than the neighbor. The wall was installed by the neighbor and previous owners in the 1980's. Inspector showed up to look at the trench saw the bottom of the footer exposed now he got written up entire wall has to be replaced and the city wants a structural engineer to draw up plans. The neighbor blew his top so angry he refuses to pay the cost is north of 35k dollars from 3 contactors for 50 feet of wall. The city is threatening fines if he doesn't fix it since the neighbor who originally paid for half refuses is not on the hook for the wall it's all up to my friend to pay. Now he has to get a 2nd mortgage to pay for a wall he had nothing to do with. Think about that next time want to pull a permit to hook up a hot tub to the electrical box yeah, I'll do it without a permit and remove it when I sell the house. I always do electrical work to code I don't pull permits cheaper to sell the house and move if need work requires a permit.
THEY...just want your money and a CONTRACT for you to request THEIR PERMISSION to engage in your personal right...just tell them you are not contracting with them or anyone from the agency. DO NOT refuse to pay taxes on YOUR PROPERTY but do let them know that you have the right to maintain and improve your property. You may have to tear it down when you're done using it so that it cannot be resale-able...but, hey...don't call it "real-estate" because it is not.
I just wanted to build a damn shed. I can build one for less than $1000 but I would have to get engineered drawings with a stamp to build a portable or pour an 8" continuous footer. My driveway extends around my house to the back yard and I thought I would just put it there and tapcon the framing to the slab. Nope. Anchor bolts and 16" on center studs required.O would have to cut 100 feet of driveway up 12" wide for the footer. The shed builders can afford to get engineered drawings because they know they are going to sell thousands of sheds. They are 24" on center and secured with tow straps btw. Right where I would have put the shed I have an enclosed patio. The framing is secured to the concrete with 3" stakes built in 1952. It has been there for 70 years but for some reason my shed won't be safe unless I do all the rediculous shit mentioned above. The inspection office and an inspector I had come out for preliminary both told me "I wouldn't pull a permit" basically just build it illegally. You know you are running a scam when the people you hire even tell people to avoid you.
@@RoyArrowood Friend of mine moved into a home with a half-remodeled pool. He didn't want the pool, so he was in the process of jack hammering the bottom out and filling it with dirt. Neighbor called the city, and they fined him $500 made him get a permit. They didn't even show up to inspect it they told him to take pictures and email it to them. It was a $750 paycheck for city employees something he was already doing to their spec. He was going above what they wanted which was a few holes in the bottom he spent weeks cutting and jack hammering he wanted to remove it down to 6 feet below the surface.
We need serious help! The gentleman who sold us the property built structures without the benefit of permits and without disclosing the violations. Thirty years later (!) comes the county and wants us to get permits for the structures, electric and plumbing. Do we have to tear the buildings down? Is there a way out?
I would visit your local building and planning departments for more information. I've seen both positive and negative results, so prepare yourself for the worst and hope for the best.
Likely they want tear down the dry wall so they can inspect. My FIL took pictures of everything then later pulled a permit they did accept the pictures as proof what he had done. I always disclose on every home sale might be unpermitted work good practice most homes have unpermitted work that are over 20 years old.
Hello, recently bought a house, with finish basement, now we find out the previous owner didn’t take any permits to finish the basement, are we the new owner liable of any reason that will be problem and getting permit?
No he's their pal. He comes along and scrapes up jobs from the municipalities and kisses their asses to do it. Looking like the good guy. Nah, no friend of mine.
They can and sometimes it might be more beneficial if you do tear something down, but you would need to figure out which one is going to be more cost-effective. Is it going to be cheaper to tear something down and rebuild it or try to make the necessary modifications to make it stronger? They can also make you tear down room additions that are built over property easements. ua-cam.com/video/7tiUx6-xK74/v-deo.html
I've built 30+ decks going back 4 years for a contractor that doesn't get permits.. So, this guy owns a deck building company and isn't showing he's getting permits. If they can't catch him through financial records how they gonna catch him period? And what would happen if they finally put 2 and 2 together and he gets busted?
@@gratefuldude941 I can handle that though, what I can't handle is some government shithead forcing me to overbuild a structure and then stealing my money, while acting like they saved my life. "permits" are there so they can use all the excuses to rob you of your money.
@@mofumofutenngoku it ain’t just about you bud. It’s about your neighbor too. Build w/e tf you want. It’s your property. You’re entitled to it. But your corner cutting should not put your neighbors home at risk
@@peterparker117 How would I put my neighbors home at risk? Its MY property not my neighbors. Please elaborate. Are you talking about how if my house is too ugly it will devalue theirs? Cry me a river, you're not selling my house.
I built a Gazebo on my own in my back yard thinking that a structure without walls would not need a permit. Its all done but before I started a second project that I thought might need a permit I was looking at the city's permit page and Gazebo is on there as something needing a permit. It is actually a metal one from home depot that came in a kit. But the concrete and tile floor I put out in my backyard that the Gazebo sits on is what I am somewhat concerned about. I did the concrete in 4x4 sections with a Schluter membrane then tile on that. Any thoughts? am I going to get caught on that one?
Sometimes the building department will allow structures that are not permanent like a shed of gazebo, but the foundation it sits on would also need to be movable and it sounds like yours might not be. The only thing I could suggest would be to contact them and ask for guidance.
The fact you are only worried about getting caught tells me that you don't believe you did anything wrong. I agree. Vote libertarian. We should all be allowed to build a gazebo without the rediculous requirements that cities are making.
Any recommendations to get a permit for an addition with flat roof, electric and no plumbing built 20 years back without a problem? I know I need justify a “variance permit”. Anyone with similar experience?
I'm not familiar with a variant permit, but sometimes you are allowed a property zoning variance and more information can be found at your local planning department.
living on 430 SSI at 71..Yes they made me remove it all..Just do not have the $$$for meeting what they wanr..ha rain wateer used for 40 years..they say NO..50 a foot for well..150 ft ..for get..county thinks every ob ne has money
Hi, We started building an addition without permit, walls up with electricity and plumbing however we’ve recently decided to get it permitted and documented to avoid future headaches. What would be the best case to go by this? Can we hire a licensed contractor to take over the project to get permit and all the paperwork and inspections? Is that something they would be willing to do or we have to do all the paperwork ?
I'm considering finishing our basement. it has all plumbing and electrical ready so not much there. do i need a permit for a basement? i don't like the fact i would need to pay even more annual tax for the house which is already very high.
You would need to ask your local building department about permits, who will probably say yes, but I'm sure lot's of folks don't get permits for your same reason.
You might want to let it go if everything is working fine, but if not, then contact your local building department for more information and ask for a refund for any fees from your plumber.
@@gregvancom I would really like the permit so I don't have issues when selling. It is the law where I live that contractors are supposed to pull permits before starting work. I just don't understand why they wouldn't do it if everything they are doing is correct. Everything seems to work fine but I don't want future issues. There are probably going to be fines/fees beyond the normal permit now. I'm not sure if I will have to pay anything but technically the contractor is supposed to be fined by the state I believe. Hopefully my city will not fine me too.
The City Came and Ordered to Demolish 9 studios Built with one bedrooms on the second Floor of each Home , and remove my travel trailers which where all being rented out Here in Monterey Ca ,
My neighbors started building a storage building(that could be turned into a 'she-shed). I am okay with them doing this, but, we are divided by a long, land line. They went back from the landline about 10 ft., but they decided to build adjacent to my deep well. They are Spanish. I asked the husband, "what are you building?" He told me it was for storage, but he didn't understand English; therefore, I needed to talk to his wife. He let me use his cell phone to speak to her about the matter. I asked her if they knew the building codes,and that I was not happy with them building close to my Deep well. By the way, I have never heard of this before. She refused to cooperate with me, and they are continuing their build. It is also directly in front of my porch( which will block my porch from the road. I have lived here for 34 years, and have not had any EXTREME problems with previous neighbors that lived there. She said, "I didn't know that had to tell anyone that I was building on my land." I don't like that it will be blocking my view from the road, but, I am especially upset about them building it adjacent to my well. Do you know what I can do to protect my property and the structures on my property in a case like this? I, personally would never consider building close to my neighbors deep well, especially without telling them.
You should have a code enforcement department in your city or county that will be glad to help. It's usually located in the same place the mayor works.
also, let's say you leave the toaster on too long and your house burns down. if there's found to have been illegal building works on site - you aint getting your insurance payout. theres alot of good reasons to just go down and grab that permit when you need it
I did that to some young officer from the city hall that wanted to take pictures aggressively, it was so unexpected, and i had a dirty house? I didn't want her to come in or the neighbors that called to get a laugh, so i kicked her out and said you can take pictures but outside of the property. She's coming tomorrow after a weeks noticed looking for revenge with her liberal arts degree
Not in wilson NC... they are mmore intreestedin money. Unreasonable at best. Thr inspector can stand there and see one crowd doing something that is exactly what they are are telling you that you can not do. Its a money racket there.
What about neighbors who don't want to get one, do not have building experience, and hire people who don't know the trade? Being a close neighbor of a similar situation one hesitates to turn people in for fear of retaliation but, are scared that someone renting the apts. might have an accident because of unpermitted jobs.
Steven Seagal doesn't waste time getting anything and he does his own construction business.......if they knock on his door, it's the wrong door to knock on.....Steven will Akido chop them.......
I live on a pretty quiet dead end street. My landlord/boss decided that I’m gonna reno my apartment, not just cosmetic, but structural changes, plumbing, electrical etc. no permits pulled, none of it is going to be inspected.
All my neighbours are pretty awesome, they either just mind their own business or are in the middle of their own “illegal” construction projects.
I find it neat that about 15 different households all have this unspoken agreement of don’t tell on me and I won’t tell on you.
My biggest worry about applying for permits for work I do at my home is that the inspector will come by and see work that was done, without permit, from back in the 90s, and demand that drywall be torn out from the entire basement and around the kitchen where a wall was removed
That alone is what stops me cold in my tracks regarding permits.
Good point and something to think about.
@@gregvancom I got the same situation, my kitchen was redone without a permit many years ago, and now I am finishing part of my basement. leaning towards not getting a permit since its just a few simple outlets. Don't want to risk them looking at the kitchen. Maybe I should take pictures of the electrical work in case I get dinged in the future?
You're on the hook for everything that was ever done at that home prior to you owning it. I always disclose when I sell that unpermitted work might have been done at the home.
@@Mike-01234 100%. When you sign that purchase and sale agreement you are the owner of the home and all its mistakes.
The problem is if your house was built years ago to a different code it's only grandfathered until you modify it. If you apply for a building permit for anything minor you will have to upgrade the entire house to the latest building codes. I called them up and asked so I decided to not do the work.
I've done that before.
Permits are a contract: Elements of a legal contract are
If one party is threatened and forced to sign a contract, the agreement
is considered void. According to a federal law, a . Blackmailing and
threatening someone's life are situations that will make a contract
invalid.
Duress
Unlawful pressure exerted upon a person to coerce that person to perform
an act that he or she ordinarily would not perform.
Duress also encompasses the same harm, threats, or restraint exercised
upon the affected individual's spouse, child, or parent.
Power and violence is all that the state understands. Unless you are powerful enough to destroy it, or make yourself more trouble than your worth it will gladly enslave you. Protest and duress, habeus corpus, freedom of speech, etc. All just a lies. Smoke and mirrors propped up by a bunch of lawyers that couldn't give two shits less about our "rights". If you want freedom seek power. Just look at the US invasions into sovereign countries. The UN doesn't say anything about it because there's nothing they can do about it. The US doesn't invade NK because they don't want nukes flying in every direction. I know I am a slave to the state. I can't resist. Yet. But I am working to become as powerful as I can in this system and as soon as enough of us can admit the truth then maybe we can join forces and kill the bastards.
its in the name.... CON 101 !
Yeah I finished my basement completely, even added another electrical panel, did all the plumbing 20 years ago without a permit. I have a big basement with 4 rooms and a full bath now, without a permit. Following finishing the basement I had a big detached garage built which has a basement. I did get a permit for that but it was never final inspected. Now with all the building permit happening in my county I am afraid to sell my house. I am thinking they may ask me to rip off all the drywall to the studs. Everything is to code and has worked fine for 20 years. Now I am retired and wife wants to move to a smaller house. I am afraid to put the house on the market. The inspector for the detached was very nonchalant.
Hi, So has anything happened since?
Screw the market...Sells better and faster on Facebook Marketplace
What a headache. Me too.
Wow, I am glad I won't be shot or jailed. Very comforting indeed!
Sometimes after they decide to add some financial penalties you might wish they did :)
Their concern in our safety😂😂😂😂😂. Who is this guy?????
Archie Armeninfo TV a douche.
Exactly !!!! There concern is money and control that’s all. I tried getting permits for every project and quickly discovered they wouldn’t come out for final inspections, etc after they got paid. So safety and the job being done correctly is the issue then why skip out on final inspections.. it’s all bs
My dad was a carpenter and construction worker for around 20 years, i just recently moved on very very short notice to my grandmas house. There was no room in the house for me to stay in so my dad and i built a completely freestanding room. We did not touch or modify any of the existing structure, other than tap-conning the walls to the concrete floor. Does this require a permit or anything? It is not hooked up to the houses electrical system or plumbing either, just a drywall box basically.
Most permanent structures attached to an existing building or with concrete foundations usually require permits, but you would need to check with your local planning or building department for more information.
so if you get got just listen to them? great advice thanks.
it's not to be Negative I love to see people with solutions not trouble makers just because your licence or you are a construction company,you know the rules and regulations but I know that you can not make mistakes coz you are been watched by the authorities ,why because anything you do is big money to make or loose..so of course you want to scare people but like he says that not everthing is in the drain...
I am in middle of a concrett slab 17.5 by 35 l . And i am not pulling pernits but i am taking pictures. Step by step just in case . Will I be ok?
I've seen situations where they wanted to physically see each inspection.
I live in Dallas. I did everything "right" and pulled a permit because all the "pro" forum posts I read about it saying, "Don't be stupid. Get your permits," made me sufficiently paranoid, especially since I see "Code Enforcement" vehicles driving around East Dallas all the time. I provided detailed architectural drawings, etc. Dallas normally requires a contractor ID for approving permits, but they have a "homeowner's exemption" if you're doing your own work. I knew I was a rare case when I applied for the permit and had to inform the clerk that they have that exemption. The clerk had to confer with their manager to know what I was talking about.
Fast forward to my first inspection (footings). I made sure everything was just right - depths, widths, soil compaction, etc. When the inspector got here, he didn't pull out a tape measure or anything. He just looked around for a few seconds and green tagged me. His demeanor very clearly said, "Why did you pull a permit for this?" Then, when the second inspector came to do the framing inspection, he said out loud, "You know, most people don't pull permits for these." He wasn't telling me he was impressed with my rule following. He was telling me I could have done it without a permit. He didn't pull a tape measure or test torque on ledger bolts or check that my fasteners/hangers were correct or... pretty much anything. I dunno... maybe he could tell I over-engineered it.
Dallas's code clearly states permit requirements. My deck is about 900+ sqft, is attached to the house, and is over 36" off the ground in some areas. It checks all the boxes for requiring a permit. It's clear to me now that Dallas's permitting office is full of Ron Swanson types. I'm guessing they're a lot more concerned about dwellings being up to code, but they definitely seem to have better things to do than inspect DIY deck builds (even big ones). Live and learn I guess!
I seen them look plenty of times on my projects and sign it off with out measuring any thing. Thanks for sharing, but if you can remove any names, other wise I will have to remove your whole comment.
@@gregvancom are you referring to the Ron Swanson reference? That's a character on the fictional TV show "Parks and Rec" played by Nick Offerman. His character is known for his disdain for bureaucracy even though he works for the city. When he was asked for a permit in one of the show's episodes, he handed the guy a piece of paper that simply had "I do what I want" written on it.
When they say I'm from the government and "help is here". Tell them: I am glad you are here. I need all the help I can get.
Exactly.
Gross. They should include Vaseline at close of sale. I hate politics and I'm about to get involved locally to fix overly restrictive rules. They are being used as a tool in class warfare. Rich move in, invest in their place and get it up to code then call on your slight infractions that everyone else has too and have no money to get to fixing. They send the city. 250$ a day for 5 days until either cleaned up or they put a lean on your home. The lean has to be paid in full in 30 days. It's generally around 4k. No one on my street has 4k. But the investment owner next door who moved here from NY does. And she wants my house and the one next to it for cheap af.
The bank did the same thing to my family growing up. They wanted our land and sought every legal inch they had available to take it.
Greed will not win. Corruption of our government for profit is not American, not justified or right. It is created by the people , for the people yet we treat businesses and commercial investors better than any human.
I need to know, what city or county you're dealing with. What exactly are you trying to get a building permit for?
Washington State
They need to mind thrown business, there main concern is not safety, it is making sure they have a paycheck
Their main concern is to stop boomers from doing half ass shitty work then overpricing their fucked up home to the next generation, as they have done with everything else.
I bought a house with unpermitted bedroom additions. We asked the seller about it and they just shrugged and said "It's already there when we bought it." So now I'm building another addition and I'll be using the same phrase if I ever have to sell. "It's already there when we bought it." There are thousands upon thousands of unpermitted work in CA, join the fun.
These things can turn into nightmares example is friend bought an house is on a hillside property. The block wall between the homes rises as the elevation rises some areas it's 7 feet tall others it's 4 feet one side other side it's 6 feet. He dug out 18 " trench on his side which is the lower side the neighbor was higher up wanted to put in an underground conduit for a hot tub. The bottom of the wall footer was exposed because on his side is lower than the neighbor. The wall was installed by the neighbor and previous owners in the 1980's. Inspector showed up to look at the trench saw the bottom of the footer exposed now he got written up entire wall has to be replaced and the city wants a structural engineer to draw up plans. The neighbor blew his top so angry he refuses to pay the cost is north of 35k dollars from 3 contactors for 50 feet of wall. The city is threatening fines if he doesn't fix it since the neighbor who originally paid for half refuses is not on the hook for the wall it's all up to my friend to pay. Now he has to get a 2nd mortgage to pay for a wall he had nothing to do with. Think about that next time want to pull a permit to hook up a hot tub to the electrical box yeah, I'll do it without a permit and remove it when I sell the house. I always do electrical work to code I don't pull permits cheaper to sell the house and move if need work requires a permit.
Thanks for the story and what a bummer and keep building safe.
THEY...just want your money and a CONTRACT for you to request THEIR PERMISSION to engage in your personal right...just tell them you are not contracting with them or anyone from the agency. DO NOT refuse to pay taxes on YOUR PROPERTY but do let them know that you have the right to maintain and improve your property. You may have to tear it down when you're done using it so that it cannot be resale-able...but, hey...don't call it "real-estate" because it is not.
I don't think I want to even attempt to argue with that statement. I do believe it has a lot more to do with money today than safety.
I just wanted to build a damn shed. I can build one for less than $1000 but I would have to get engineered drawings with a stamp to build a portable or pour an 8" continuous footer. My driveway extends around my house to the back yard and I thought I would just put it there and tapcon the framing to the slab. Nope. Anchor bolts and 16" on center studs required.O would have to cut 100 feet of driveway up 12" wide for the footer. The shed builders can afford to get engineered drawings because they know they are going to sell thousands of sheds. They are 24" on center and secured with tow straps btw. Right where I would have put the shed I have an enclosed patio. The framing is secured to the concrete with 3" stakes built in 1952. It has been there for 70 years but for some reason my shed won't be safe unless I do all the rediculous shit mentioned above. The inspection office and an inspector I had come out for preliminary both told me "I wouldn't pull a permit" basically just build it illegally. You know you are running a scam when the people you hire even tell people to avoid you.
@@RoyArrowood lol seems like way to much work. Maybe it’s a issue of earth quakes and home insurance
@@RoyArrowood Friend of mine moved into a home with a half-remodeled pool. He didn't want the pool, so he was in the process of jack hammering the bottom out and filling it with dirt. Neighbor called the city, and they fined him $500 made him get a permit. They didn't even show up to inspect it they told him to take pictures and email it to them. It was a $750 paycheck for city employees something he was already doing to their spec. He was going above what they wanted which was a few holes in the bottom he spent weeks cutting and jack hammering he wanted to remove it down to 6 feet below the surface.
We need serious help! The gentleman who sold us the property built structures without the benefit of permits and without disclosing the violations. Thirty years later (!) comes the county and wants us to get permits for the structures, electric and plumbing. Do we have to tear the buildings down? Is there a way out?
I would visit your local building and planning departments for more information. I've seen both positive and negative results, so prepare yourself for the worst and hope for the best.
Likely they want tear down the dry wall so they can inspect. My FIL took pictures of everything then later pulled a permit they did accept the pictures as proof what he had done. I always disclose on every home sale might be unpermitted work good practice most homes have unpermitted work that are over 20 years old.
Those who give up liberty for safety deserve neither...Benjamin Franklin
I thought it was liberty or security, but maybe it was security and safety? Good point and thanks for commenting.
Hello, recently bought a house, with finish basement, now we find out the previous owner didn’t take any permits to finish the basement, are we the new owner liable of any reason that will be problem and getting permit?
I would ask your local building and safety department.
What do you work for those people or what
Never have.
No he's their pal. He comes along and scrapes up jobs from the municipalities and kisses their asses to do it. Looking like the good guy. Nah, no friend of mine.
Do inspectors know the previous electric and plumbing installation?
What if u have illegal work like patios attached to house, etc. Or additions, they make u tear it down?
They can and sometimes it might be more beneficial if you do tear something down, but you would need to figure out which one is going to be more cost-effective. Is it going to be cheaper to tear something down and rebuild it or try to make the necessary modifications to make it stronger? They can also make you tear down room additions that are built over property easements.
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I've built 30+ decks going back 4 years for a contractor that doesn't get permits.. So, this guy owns a deck building company and isn't showing he's getting permits. If they can't catch him through financial records how they gonna catch him period? And what would happen if they finally put 2 and 2 together and he gets busted?
My understanding is that the property owner will be held accountable, but that does not mean they can't take legal action against contractor.
You must be kidding, The building Dept, will control your life and your Bank Account
yeah, a friend that tells me I can't do what I want on my own fucking property!
Just remember, the man with the gold makes the rules.
You are deluded if you think you own that property. Ask yourself, what happens if I don't pay my property tax (aka Government rent)?
@@gratefuldude941 I can handle that though, what I can't handle is some government shithead forcing me to overbuild a structure and then stealing my money, while acting like they saved my life. "permits" are there so they can use all the excuses to rob you of your money.
@@mofumofutenngoku it ain’t just about you bud. It’s about your neighbor too. Build w/e tf you want. It’s your property. You’re entitled to it. But your corner cutting should not put your neighbors home at risk
@@peterparker117 How would I put my neighbors home at risk? Its MY property not my neighbors. Please elaborate.
Are you talking about how if my house is too ugly it will devalue theirs?
Cry me a river, you're not selling my house.
Looks like im gonna go on a roller coaster
I built a Gazebo on my own in my back yard thinking that a structure without walls would not need a permit. Its all done but before I started a second project that I thought might need a permit I was looking at the city's permit page and Gazebo is on there as something needing a permit. It is actually a metal one from home depot that came in a kit. But the concrete and tile floor I put out in my backyard that the Gazebo sits on is what I am somewhat concerned about. I did the concrete in 4x4 sections with a Schluter membrane then tile on that. Any thoughts? am I going to get caught on that one?
Sometimes the building department will allow structures that are not permanent like a shed of gazebo, but the foundation it sits on would also need to be movable and it sounds like yours might not be. The only thing I could suggest would be to contact them and ask for guidance.
The fact you are only worried about getting caught tells me that you don't believe you did anything wrong. I agree. Vote libertarian. We should all be allowed to build a gazebo without the rediculous requirements that cities are making.
@@RoyArrowood we need more riots to send the message out.
What if it’s completely done and the inspector nocks at your door?
Then they will tell you what your next step is. Most of the time they will try to work something out if they can.
Any recommendations to get a permit for an addition with flat roof, electric and no plumbing built 20 years back without a problem? I know I need justify a “variance permit”. Anyone with similar experience?
I'm not familiar with a variant permit, but sometimes you are allowed a property zoning variance and more information can be found at your local planning department.
What if an inspector comes and says I need a permit for my windows. But I didn’t install new windows?
Then go back to the building department and find out the reason why. If you're not installing windows, then you shouldn't need a permit.
Right on keep the peace
living on 430 SSI at 71..Yes they made me remove it all..Just do not have the $$$for meeting what they wanr..ha rain wateer used for 40 years..they say NO..50 a foot for well..150 ft ..for get..county thinks every ob ne has money
Not a good situation.
Hi,
We started building an addition without permit, walls up with electricity and plumbing however we’ve recently decided to get it permitted and documented to avoid future headaches. What would be the best case to go by this? Can we hire a licensed contractor to take over the project to get permit and all the paperwork and inspections? Is that something they would be willing to do or we have to do all the paperwork ?
I would contact your building department first. It shouldn't be a big problem if everything is done to code.
Dont do anything untill you are asked to. They will make your life hard.
I'm considering finishing our basement. it has all plumbing and electrical ready so not much there. do i need a permit for a basement? i don't like the fact i would need to pay even more annual tax for the house which is already very high.
You would need to ask your local building department about permits, who will probably say yes, but I'm sure lot's of folks don't get permits for your same reason.
@@gregvancom i just wonder if it can cause me any trouble with potential buyers in the future. would it? even with a VERY nicely finished basement.
by making improvements and additions to your home your property taxes go up if permits are pulled? what state are you in?
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@dc5duben96 I thought every state worked the same. Here in the northeast you pull a permit, your property taxes go up.
You have the wright to improve your property .they need to stop the abuse is all about taken your money.
What if a plumbing company didn't pull a permit? They keep saying they are going to do it and don't. The work is done already 😔
You might want to let it go if everything is working fine, but if not, then contact your local building department for more information and ask for a refund for any fees from your plumber.
@@gregvancom I would really like the permit so I don't have issues when selling. It is the law where I live that contractors are supposed to pull permits before starting work. I just don't understand why they wouldn't do it if everything they are doing is correct. Everything seems to work fine but I don't want future issues. There are probably going to be fines/fees beyond the normal permit now. I'm not sure if I will have to pay anything but technically the contractor is supposed to be fined by the state I believe. Hopefully my city will not fine me too.
@@blissfuljoy6049 It sounds like you have a plan. You could contact the plumber one last time as a courtesy, but I will leave that in your hands.
@@gregvancom yeah, I am going to contact the plumber again. Hopefully he will be responsible.
The City Came and Ordered to Demolish 9 studios Built with one bedrooms on the second Floor of each Home , and remove my travel trailers which where all being rented out Here in Monterey Ca ,
Doesn't sound like a good thing.
My neighbors started building a storage building(that could be turned into a 'she-shed). I am okay with them doing this, but, we are divided by a long, land line. They went back from the landline about 10 ft., but they decided to build adjacent to my deep well. They are Spanish. I asked the husband, "what are you building?" He told me it was for storage, but he didn't understand English; therefore, I needed to talk to his wife. He let me use his cell phone to speak to her about the matter. I asked her if they knew the building codes,and that I was not happy with them building close to my Deep well. By the way, I have never heard of this before. She refused to cooperate with me, and they are continuing their build. It is also directly in front of my porch( which will block my porch from the road. I have lived here for 34 years, and have not had any EXTREME problems with previous neighbors that lived there. She said, "I didn't know that had to tell anyone that I was building on my land." I don't like that it will be blocking my view from the road, but, I am especially upset about them building it adjacent to my well. Do you know what I can do to protect my property and the structures on my property in a case like this? I, personally would never consider building close to my neighbors deep well, especially without telling them.
You should have a code enforcement department in your city or county that will be glad to help. It's usually located in the same place the mayor works.
also, let's say you leave the toaster on too long and your house burns down. if there's found to have been illegal building works on site - you aint getting your insurance payout. theres alot of good reasons to just go down and grab that permit when you need it
You made a very good point.
You tell them they're trespassing and they need to leave your property.
If they think there's a safety problem, you might need to let them on your property or the police.
I did that to some young officer from the city hall that wanted to take pictures aggressively, it was so unexpected, and i had a dirty house? I didn't want her to come in or the neighbors that called to get a laugh, so i kicked her out and said you can take pictures but outside of the property. She's coming tomorrow after a weeks noticed looking for revenge with her liberal arts degree
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Not in wilson NC... they are mmore intreestedin money. Unreasonable at best. Thr inspector can stand there and see one crowd doing something that is exactly what they are are telling you that you can not do. Its a money racket there.
These are no friends of humanity nor freedom.
Amen!
Land of the Fee,Home of the Slave.
What about neighbors who don't want to get one, do not have building experience, and hire people who don't know the trade? Being a close neighbor of a similar situation one hesitates to turn people in for fear of retaliation but, are scared that someone renting the apts. might have an accident because of unpermitted jobs.
My safety is not worth my freedom
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
friends! LOL
Exactly...
Nah. It's your property. They have no real authority.
I WAS WAITING FOR A GOOD ANSWER AND I HEAR JUST DO WHAT THEY TELL YOU JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
For the most part.
Steven Seagal doesn't waste time getting anything and he does his own construction business.......if they knock on his door, it's the wrong door to knock on.....Steven will Akido chop them.......
Yes, he doesn't need permits.
@@gregvancom Steven is the Permit!!! Inspectors drive by in FEAR!!!!!
Their Main Concern Is "Raise Your Taxes" HeHe... No Its Your Or A Buyers Safety ! Peace/;-))
I can't argue with that$$$$
by making improvements and additions to your home your property taxes go up if permits are pulled? what state are you in?
🤣 they just want $