Just don't. Please, it is terribly unsafe. Issues: There is no separation of the high and low voltage part. You are working on the same demo board. The relay might be rated for the continuous operation of the kettle but definitely not for the switch on transient. The cables you are using seems to be just normal low voltage demo cables. Have you checked the rating? You need min 18AWG to safely handle the load. Have you checked the IP rating of the box? And with all this, you implement a 10USD smart plug.
Hey, thanks for the concerns but I don't think it is that bad. The wire is stranded at 1mm thickness and the kettle is rated at 1800W so it should be OK. The load on the relay is in it's off position so I don't think it will be too big of a deal. The kettle operates for only a few minutes so it should be fine. Of it is not, then one can always use an SSR. Additionally, one big aspect of the DIY approach is the learning in making something, including getting feedback like this so thanks again! In a worst case scenario, the house is equipped with an RCD and proper fuses so except for some exciting bang, nothing serious should happen.
Thanks. To be honest I never thought of using a ready made plug before it was mentioned in the comments. I always think of the DIY route first as it is an awesome learning opportunity and learning is what I'm after.
Thanks, this video seems like an excellent opportunity to learn about IoT integration. From my experience, using a simple Sonoff Basic running Tasmota with Home Assistant would be a more effective approach. This setup allows for easy control from scripts within Home Assistant. I have successfully used this method with many non-smart devices by creating a short extension cord embedded with the Sonoff, thus avoiding modifications to the original cords. you have presented a great DIY solution that everyone can learn from! Way to go!
Thanks! For sure there are commercial options that usually are a lot more straightforward to use and implement. My goal is to provide learning opportunities as those open up doors for more complex projects and implementations.
In prison guys would put 2 bent peices of foil in the socket and place cup of water up to the 2 peices of foil (dinner tray) and boil their water for coffee of tea.
💀 for petes sake people buy a smart plug and do not do this. I hope taste the code is wearing rubber gloves or gumboots when that active wire melts and shorts out ☠️
Should I also wear bomb proof suit?? Even if it melts and causes short circuit, there are safety mechanisms built into the house electrical wiring that will prevent any major mishap. Yes, there might be a bang, but that's about it!
Instead of being rude, how about that you are helpful for a change? How did you came to a conclusion that the wire will melt? Did you measured its diameter? Do you know the power rating of the kettle? Do you know what voltage system I have???
It's not hard to see that wire is not rated for mains, it has been pointed out by others along with other bad practice and played down. I'm not going to sugarcoat it when this is something that can burn down a house or kill people.
The kettle has a thermal switch built in. There is nothing preventing you to turn it on without water even as it is from the factory. The thermal switch will trigger once it detects temperature close to 100 Celsius.
@@TasteTheCode my kettle is 3200W that is way above this blue relay can do. It even burnt the smart socket that was supposed to carry 16A. you are playing with the death here
This one is 1800W and we have 240V here so it should use ~8A on full power. I haven't measured this but it should be close to that. The relay is rated at 10A at 240V so theoretically it should be OK. Worst case scenario if it blows, I have an RCD on the entire house and proper fuses so it should be still OK and not cause any serious issue.
Just don't. Please, it is terribly unsafe. Issues: There is no separation of the high and low voltage part. You are working on the same demo board. The relay might be rated for the continuous operation of the kettle but definitely not for the switch on transient. The cables you are using seems to be just normal low voltage demo cables. Have you checked the rating? You need min 18AWG to safely handle the load. Have you checked the IP rating of the box? And with all this, you implement a 10USD smart plug.
Hey, thanks for the concerns but I don't think it is that bad. The wire is stranded at 1mm thickness and the kettle is rated at 1800W so it should be OK. The load on the relay is in it's off position so I don't think it will be too big of a deal. The kettle operates for only a few minutes so it should be fine. Of it is not, then one can always use an SSR. Additionally, one big aspect of the DIY approach is the learning in making something, including getting feedback like this so thanks again! In a worst case scenario, the house is equipped with an RCD and proper fuses so except for some exciting bang, nothing serious should happen.
Nice project for other implementations. It would be cheaper and easier to use a smart plug or a Sonoff basic.
Thanks. To be honest I never thought of using a ready made plug before it was mentioned in the comments. I always think of the DIY route first as it is an awesome learning opportunity and learning is what I'm after.
Thanks, this video seems like an excellent opportunity to learn about IoT integration. From my experience, using a simple Sonoff Basic running Tasmota with Home Assistant would be a more effective approach. This setup allows for easy control from scripts within Home Assistant.
I have successfully used this method with many non-smart devices by creating a short extension cord embedded with the Sonoff, thus avoiding modifications to the original cords. you have presented a great DIY solution that everyone can learn from! Way to go!
Thanks! For sure there are commercial options that usually are a lot more straightforward to use and implement. My goal is to provide learning opportunities as those open up doors for more complex projects and implementations.
In prison guys would put 2 bent peices of foil in the socket and place cup of water up to the 2 peices of foil (dinner tray) and boil their water for coffee of tea.
Yes, I'm aware of that. They use the resistance of the water as a heating element. However, I don't see how that relates to the project...
i think some weight sensor should help with "no water" scenario.
Cool, thanks for the idea. I guess an additional base can be created with the weight sensor.
Thnks
You are welcome! Thanks for watching!
💀 for petes sake people buy a smart plug and do not do this. I hope taste the code is wearing rubber gloves or gumboots when that active wire melts and shorts out ☠️
Should I also wear bomb proof suit?? Even if it melts and causes short circuit, there are safety mechanisms built into the house electrical wiring that will prevent any major mishap. Yes, there might be a bang, but that's about it!
That comment is evidence that idiot proofing continues to make better idiots.
Instead of being rude, how about that you are helpful for a change? How did you came to a conclusion that the wire will melt? Did you measured its diameter? Do you know the power rating of the kettle? Do you know what voltage system I have???
It's not hard to see that wire is not rated for mains, it has been pointed out by others along with other bad practice and played down. I'm not going to sugarcoat it when this is something that can burn down a house or kill people.
Still no knowledge shared just a bunch of assumptions and presumptions...
That's another cool video Bill.
My best wishes for the new year.
And lots of electronics fun and lots of subscribers.
Thank you David! All the best to you and your family!
I don't think this is safe at all. What will happen if there is no water?
The kettle has a thermal switch built in. There is nothing preventing you to turn it on without water even as it is from the factory. The thermal switch will trigger once it detects temperature close to 100 Celsius.
@@TasteTheCode my kettle is 3200W that is way above this blue relay can do. It even burnt the smart socket that was supposed to carry 16A. you are playing with the death here
This one is 1800W and we have 240V here so it should use ~8A on full power. I haven't measured this but it should be close to that. The relay is rated at 10A at 240V so theoretically it should be OK. Worst case scenario if it blows, I have an RCD on the entire house and proper fuses so it should be still OK and not cause any serious issue.
Lots of "shoulds" in that statement.
@@SteveMasonCanada I know that playing with such load is DANGEROUS.