How Queen Victoria Liked Her Ice Cream | Royal Upstairs Downstairs

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  • Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
  • When Queen Victoria was a 13-year-old princess she stayed at Chatsworth House in Derbyshire for a few days. Here she was charmed by a water fountain and had her first grown-up dinner (which may have included ice cream made from exotic fruits grown in the Chatsworth greenhouses and which food historian Ivan Day re-creates in this programme). Antiques expert Tim Wonnacott and chef Rosemary Shrager retrace Victoria’s steps to uncover fascinating titbits about the preparations that were undertaken for her visits to various houses and castles before and during her reign.
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  • @emilyjones5278
    @emilyjones5278 3 роки тому +25

    I love how enthusiastic Rosemary is about all the foods they ever make. She makes me so excited by the processes they'd make food with

  • @astrol64
    @astrol64 4 роки тому +63

    I was fascinated at how they made the ices/ice cream. I had always wondered what the salt did with ice to help make ice cream. Now I know!

  • @toddbonin6926
    @toddbonin6926 4 роки тому +114

    I was on the fence about watching this. The title seemed boring. I was wrong. This is a beautifully filmed travelogue with many interesting elements. Do watch!

    • @whiterider1414
      @whiterider1414 4 роки тому +7

      Okay I was on the fence too, but I'll get down and watch

    • @lsmith9249
      @lsmith9249 4 роки тому +1

      Todd Bonin it wasn't a travelogue

    • @RS-hv5ud
      @RS-hv5ud 4 роки тому +3

      I would've never watched a 28 minute vide completely, if it wasnt for your comment. Totally worth watching it full.

  • @lukepowers5073
    @lukepowers5073 3 роки тому +4

    History is so mystical in my opinion. Victoria is so posh. How lovely.

  • @pennierkaide4985
    @pennierkaide4985 4 роки тому +16

    I found this channel by accident. I love anything about my fav queen Victoria. Can't wait to go to bed and catch up on all the past episodes👑

  • @neeters5
    @neeters5 3 роки тому +9

    Absolutely love this series! Thanks for posting! I've watched it probably 6 times!

    • @christianneforman40
      @christianneforman40 Рік тому +1

      I've watched this series about 100 times. Honestly there are so many details and recipes that I can't help it but trying to make them myself.

  • @Nexareus
    @Nexareus 4 роки тому +12

    Impressive that the Cavendish Banana is still a staple commercial crop around the world today! And here we see its origins at Chatsworth House.

  • @kim7990
    @kim7990 4 роки тому +52

    The chef's voice is so calming...

    • @iggle6448
      @iggle6448 4 роки тому +5

      He's the best person in this series, to my mind. The other two are so actory and over the top.

    • @yuh1597
      @yuh1597 3 роки тому +3

      The woman that helps the chef is kind of annoying when she breaths hard in the mic

    • @aznzensation
      @aznzensation 3 роки тому

      So posh

    • @P3891
      @P3891 Рік тому

      @@yuh1597 you’re not even real

  • @mrsary7868
    @mrsary7868 3 роки тому +31

    "I do say, this is the first time I've ever addressed an ice in the form of a piece of asparagus." Probably also the exact words of Victoria.

  • @skontheroad
    @skontheroad Рік тому +2

    I am not usually bowled over by what they turn out, but I must say that these moulds and the colorings are just stunning!! You would expect it at Versailles, not in England. Beautifully done--Bravo!

  • @rei_xx
    @rei_xx 4 роки тому +66

    Large pineapple ice cream: "Don't talk to me or my pineapple son ever again."

    • @shysensei2348
      @shysensei2348 4 роки тому +1

      Loool

    • @khalidflynn5548
      @khalidflynn5548 3 роки тому

      pro trick : you can watch movies at instaflixxer. I've been using them for watching loads of movies recently.

    • @sincerestanley6499
      @sincerestanley6499 3 роки тому

      @Khalid Flynn Definitely, have been watching on InstaFlixxer for since november myself :D

    • @jerryhouston8096
      @jerryhouston8096 3 роки тому

      @Khalid Flynn Yea, have been using instaflixxer for since december myself :)

    • @carolynraley4047
      @carolynraley4047 3 роки тому

      @@khalidflynn5548 How kind of you to share the suggestion! I will look into it. Thank you!

  • @samahnasser87
    @samahnasser87 3 роки тому +5

    I love how passionate they are.

  • @jessicak.3959
    @jessicak.3959 4 роки тому +35

    I almost skipped this one but I'm so glad I didn't. Such a cute and informative video! ❤

    • @lsmith9249
      @lsmith9249 4 роки тому

      Jessica K. it was a tv documentary

  • @saspurillie
    @saspurillie 4 роки тому +36

    "Tim may not be a queen..." to you maybe... 👑

  • @juneebennett22
    @juneebennett22 4 роки тому +48

    Hearing that guy talking about an "explosion in your mouth" gave me a bit of a giggle.

    • @paulstovall3777
      @paulstovall3777 4 роки тому

      Not to be overly indelicate but one must wonder if the future queen Victoria 'trimmed' herself. After all, lice were quite the problem back then.

    • @kim7990
      @kim7990 4 роки тому

      You're being naughty

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 4 роки тому +41

    In virtually every TV series or movies about queen Victoria,even those about her early life, there never is any mention of her half brother and half sister despite the fact,as I understand it,she was brought up with them in Kensington Palace and she thought very highly of them and corresponded with them when they returned to Germany and became minor royals in their own right.Even a recent mini-series "Young Victoria" totally air brushed them from history.Is it because they would complicate the story line a bit too much?

    • @gilliscolgan4356
      @gilliscolgan4356 4 роки тому +2

      Didn't complicate it for me.

    • @kaloarepo288
      @kaloarepo288 4 роки тому +5

      @@gilliscolgan4356 Yes but they are never mentioned in any account of her younger life either in factual programs or fictional ones.

    • @kaloarepo288
      @kaloarepo288 4 роки тому +4

      @Mark Gable But we are talking about very close relatives indeed -your mother's children by her first marriage -and they are brought up with you in Kensington palace! We are not talking about cousins back in Germany.

    • @iggle6448
      @iggle6448 4 роки тому +7

      Goodness! I have never, ever heard of these half-siblings. Yet I've always been an avid history student. I've only ever heard about the mother whom Victoria very unreasonably hated until the lady died. And the scheming Sir John Conroy. This means that Victoria likely had a big clutch of nieces and nephews too. What happened to them?

    • @kaloarepo288
      @kaloarepo288 4 роки тому +9

      @@iggle6448 Apparently some of the descendants of queen Victoria's half-siblings still live in the castle of Amorbach in the Franconia region of Bavaria,Germany.Emich Carl the brother became the second prince of Leiningen in Bavaria,and his son ,the third prince of Leiningen obtained his moment of glory by becoming (briefly)the Prime Minister of an attempted Revolutionary government of Germany in 1848 with its headquarters at Frankfurt.(The Frankfurt Parliament)But he resigned soon afterwards and the whole thing came to failure.Queen Victoria's half sister Fedora(1807-1872)married into German aristocracy (The Hohenlohe-Langenburg family)and had 8 children some of which were the ancestors of king Gustav of Sweden and king Felipe VI of Spain.

  • @shellyrae9281
    @shellyrae9281 3 роки тому +3

    I love her enthusiasm!

  • @tashaimpressions
    @tashaimpressions 5 місяців тому

    I enjoy documentaries about history. Anything with Rosemary Shrager is always interesting. Thank you.

  • @gailmitchell8147
    @gailmitchell8147 3 роки тому +4

    I wish that they would do a pan of the whole kitchen so we could see the way they planed their kitchens .

  • @mothiestman4995
    @mothiestman4995 4 роки тому +11

    This is the most incredibly English thing I've ever seen. It's magical.

    • @iggle6448
      @iggle6448 4 роки тому

      Out of interest, what makes it so English for you?

  • @christianneforman40
    @christianneforman40 Рік тому +1

    I would love to try that ice cream! I'm jealous of Tim and Rosemary! I love this show.

  • @kenshinsshadow3316
    @kenshinsshadow3316 3 роки тому +2

    This is my favorite episode so far. Really want to try and make icecream like that sometime.

  • @janicedodson1018
    @janicedodson1018 4 роки тому +7

    This is a fun series! Love seeing the cooking! That lady is wonderful to listen to.

    • @TheKat1959
      @TheKat1959 4 роки тому +1

      I love her reaction to everything. She's delighted. She's surprised. It's enjoyable history indeed.

  • @PrayerWithNormRasmussen
    @PrayerWithNormRasmussen 2 роки тому +1

    very informative. wonderful video - thanks so much for making it.

  • @tripleransom4349
    @tripleransom4349 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for uploading this (again) let's hope that it stays for a while!

  • @Iluvthe1960s
    @Iluvthe1960s 4 роки тому +11

    Amazing ices such work going into just one meal!

  • @reazon2bangie
    @reazon2bangie 4 роки тому +21

    Omg I'm in LOVE with this episode❣❣❣

    • @jessicak.3959
      @jessicak.3959 4 роки тому +7

      Me too!

    • @Luna.3.3.3
      @Luna.3.3.3 4 роки тому +5

      There's a whole series of these, where they go to a lot different country houses where Victoria visited and do the same thing. It's called *Royal Upstairs Downstairs* like in the title.

  • @coopsevy5664
    @coopsevy5664 4 роки тому +3

    What a dream come true. You both are so lucky!

  • @GrumpyKitten375
    @GrumpyKitten375 4 роки тому +4

    more!!!!! those ice cream molds are amazing!!!

  • @megancrager4397
    @megancrager4397 4 роки тому +9

    Halfway through it sounds almost just like Sex and the City theme lol

    • @iggle6448
      @iggle6448 4 роки тому

      The music is not to my taste and rather inappropriate AFAIC.

  • @charlottewerther8513
    @charlottewerther8513 4 роки тому +2

    Can't wait for the next episode!

  • @michellelacosegliaz1851
    @michellelacosegliaz1851 4 роки тому +2

    Enjoyed this video. Very interesting.

  • @warbledurbler7905
    @warbledurbler7905 4 роки тому +5

    I'll be making my own ice cream after watching that! Yum!

  • @anastasiaisabella7354
    @anastasiaisabella7354 4 роки тому +2

    I love this episode !

  • @crystalfabulous
    @crystalfabulous 4 роки тому +2

    Magnificent video

  • @nflux2971
    @nflux2971 3 роки тому +1

    Sex and the City music in background,,, during the Ice cream segment!.... How brilliant.

  • @esotericexplorersmartinez493
    @esotericexplorersmartinez493 4 роки тому +2

    Add the whole series please!!!

  • @matev4786
    @matev4786 4 роки тому +10

    This was so interesting!

  • @MJK1965
    @MJK1965 3 роки тому +1

    Exquisite.

  • @charlottewerther8513
    @charlottewerther8513 4 роки тому +14

    Would have been fun to see them dressed up as Victoria and Albert....

    • @iggle6448
      @iggle6448 4 роки тому

      Oh gawd! They were over the top as it was!!

    • @carolynraley4047
      @carolynraley4047 3 роки тому +1

      Oh my goodness. What a fantastic idea!!! Thanks for sharing it!!!

  • @hilldwler420
    @hilldwler420 2 роки тому +1

    Tim’s properness is hilarious

  • @FreeSpirit47
    @FreeSpirit47 4 роки тому +15

    It's funny, to me, the era before Victoria became Queen, it was, actually, the Georgian Era. The time only after Victoria became Queen, was known as the Victorian Era, named for the time that Victoria reigned.

    • @alexandresobreiramartins9461
      @alexandresobreiramartins9461 4 роки тому +5

      Because of King George. Just like in Shakespeare's time, it was the Elizabethan Era because Elizabeth was queen. That's standard time period naming for countries with monarchies in the West.

    • @Msfinable
      @Msfinable 3 роки тому +1

      That's how periods named after monarchs work.

  • @clementinemonroe717
    @clementinemonroe717 4 роки тому +2

    The ices were gorgeous

  • @goodgollymissm6843
    @goodgollymissm6843 4 роки тому +1

    FANTASTIC EPISODE!!! I WANT SOME ICE CREAM!!!!!

  • @elidNow
    @elidNow 4 роки тому +18

    The fact that she said it would've been the event of a lifetime for the servants to serve Princess Victoria seems off. I feel like it was probably just a regular job for them day after day and when a royal person came over it was probably really stressful to measure up to the expectations and keep up with the constant demands.

    • @JadeCanada237
      @JadeCanada237 4 роки тому +12

      Mrs. Florez- There was a sense of great pride amongst servants to say that they had served royalty. It's not like today. There were class lines that people never even thought about crossing. So servants really did consider serving royalty to be an honour.

    • @Crosshill
      @Crosshill 4 роки тому +4

      thats the sole plot of the downton abbey movie lol just the servants pride in being good enough for the king and queen, kinda vapid sugary plot but whatever. back then, you had to remember that being in service provided a real career track to a respectable, proper position in a fine house at the top of the servants hierarchy, so you have darn good reason to perform your best at a royal visit. if you can say that you served a family that hosted the princess like, thats a big CV boost

  • @robertnahal4605
    @robertnahal4605 3 роки тому +1

    Please can anybody name that classical music selected for the in between scene segments?

  • @reberi
    @reberi 3 роки тому +1

    Did I miss something? I saw them sealing the seams with lard, but than throwing ice and salt directly on top of the big opening, which is only protected by paper.

  • @mswebcam31
    @mswebcam31 3 роки тому

    Nice technique.

  • @VaBeachBeach2971
    @VaBeachBeach2971 4 роки тому +12

    Isn’t this the pride and prejudice house?

    • @rupertprawnworthy758
      @rupertprawnworthy758 4 роки тому +2

      Lyme Park was used in the famous TV series though they do talk about visiting chatsworth.

    • @familiebennink5294
      @familiebennink5294 4 роки тому +2

      The 2005 film, yes.

    • @tamaracarter1836
      @tamaracarter1836 4 роки тому +2

      It was also the real life home of Georgiana Cavendish, Duchess of Devonshire (If you’ve ever seen the movie The Duchess, 2008).

  • @jennymossa9492
    @jennymossa9492 4 роки тому +2

    How did they make the ice back then? I would really love to know.

    • @momnom8666
      @momnom8666 4 роки тому +4

      Ice was normally cut from ponds or rivers and stored in underground ice houses to keep it frozen. Very cool (pun intended)

  • @FatimaMarques0890
    @FatimaMarques0890 4 роки тому +7

    Where did they get the ice? Does anyone know? Cuz I feel lazy to look it up
    Hahaha squirting tree xD she was as normal as any other 13 year old.

    • @pologolfpolott1096
      @pologolfpolott1096 3 роки тому +5

      They gathered it off lakes and rivers during Winter and stored it in half-buried "Ice Houses". A large estate like this would have had one.
      They also imported ice from Norway and Canada.

  • @EmilyRTurk
    @EmilyRTurk 4 роки тому +8

    Loved it, but why couldn’t someone fix that poor woman’s collar?!?

    • @TheKat1959
      @TheKat1959 4 роки тому

      Thank you. I too was aghast at it, lol

    • @nflux2971
      @nflux2971 3 роки тому

      Yes I'd love to know how they made ice them.

  • @adrock_sokolov6570
    @adrock_sokolov6570 2 роки тому

    im loving this desperate housewives/ americas next top model wii music.

  • @wookinooki9023
    @wookinooki9023 2 роки тому

    i want that cook to be my friend. LOL

  • @iris7911
    @iris7911 Рік тому

    Listening to this one would imagine that nowadays there are no such inequalities in wages and lifestyle...! People always look at the past in a very critical manner, but tend to forget we do no better.!

  • @offwiththefairiesforever2373
    @offwiththefairiesforever2373 3 роки тому +1

    Yum yum yum and it is an amazing home....shame about the original greenhouse .

  • @judithkeating2988
    @judithkeating2988 4 роки тому +2

    I wish they would tell us how the homes are used now. Still a private residence?

    • @catrionamacfarlane4949
      @catrionamacfarlane4949 4 роки тому +1

      Yes.....wonderful place to visit.💕

    • @rupertprawnworthy758
      @rupertprawnworthy758 4 роки тому +1

      The Duke still lives there though large parts of the house and gardens are open to paying members of the public.

    • @lsmith9249
      @lsmith9249 4 роки тому +3

      Judith Keating Yes, its still owned by the same family Peregrine Cavendish, the 12th Duke of Devonshire inherited it from his father, its open to the public and after coronavirus its just reopened again
      and Derbyshire where its situated is one of the most beautiful counties,
      fred astaires sister adele married Lord Charles Cavendish who was the son of the 9th Duke
      and Kathleen Kennedy known as Kick, JFKs sister married William Cavendish, who was the Marquess of Hartington, known to everyone as Billy Hartington, he was the heir of the 10th Duke
      so she was the Marchioness of Hartington and the future Duchess of Devonshire
      only Billy was killed in WW2, in 1948 Lady Hartington had become involved with an Earl and they were flying from Paris to the Riviera and Kick was killed instantly, she's buried in the churchyard of Saint Peter's church, Edensor, its the closest parish church to Chatsworth, JFK visited Chatsworth and her grave in june 1963, theres a plaque on her grave to commemorate that visit
      the current Duke is Billy's nephew

  • @AbdulGani-ji9hd
    @AbdulGani-ji9hd 4 роки тому +2

    🙏🇬🇧🙏

  • @ndevera100
    @ndevera100 Рік тому

    How was ice made during that time?

  • @jagga309
    @jagga309 Рік тому

    I'm amazed at the sheer scale of these country mansions and no doubt built from wealth sucked from the colonised nations as part of the British empire and especially from the jewel of the empire,India

  • @KnottyCeltic
    @KnottyCeltic 3 роки тому

    Gawd, the Victorians sure loved their shades of pink, red and poisonous green. Vomitous to me but they did love it.

  • @sebastianapollodelavega1445
    @sebastianapollodelavega1445 2 роки тому

    the pay was per month or per year ?

  • @franklesser5655
    @franklesser5655 4 роки тому +2

    I don't think the ices would have been served on paper doilies.

  • @aspencouloir761
    @aspencouloir761 4 місяці тому

    Needs more cream. A lot more 😎

  • @euleneats
    @euleneats 3 роки тому

    How was ice made in those days?

  • @KnottyCeltic
    @KnottyCeltic 3 роки тому +2

    That looks more like sorbet than ice cream. Why's it so crystal'y?

    • @rellman85
      @rellman85 3 роки тому

      I thought the same

  • @chloe1219
    @chloe1219 4 роки тому +1

    The curator isn't just robert webb with a hair cut???

    • @TheJaguarthChannel
      @TheJaguarthChannel 3 роки тому +1

      sounds like him and looks like him, it must be him or otherwise there is a twin about!

  • @kim7990
    @kim7990 4 роки тому +1

    Mr. Darcy's home 😊

    • @SAnn-rf3oz
      @SAnn-rf3oz 3 роки тому

      It's fairly tolerable.........😂

    • @SAnn-rf3oz
      @SAnn-rf3oz 3 роки тому

      To quote Mr Darcy...

  • @AbdulGani-ji9hd
    @AbdulGani-ji9hd 4 роки тому +2

    🙏🇬🇧✍️👍🤝🙏

  • @AbdulGani-ji9hd
    @AbdulGani-ji9hd 4 роки тому +1

    🙏🇬🇧🌎🤝👍🙏

  • @user-ix2nk3ru4p
    @user-ix2nk3ru4p 4 роки тому +1

    👀😀

  • @leavingitblank9363
    @leavingitblank9363 3 роки тому +1

    So, wait... He stole the horde of antique pewter ice cream moulds from his place of employment?

    • @carolynraley4047
      @carolynraley4047 3 роки тому +1

      Oh my gosh, you are hilarious! Hahaha. I don't know that he stole the ice cream molds. I know that he (Ivan Day, a food historian) is an avid collector of antique kitchen utensils. He's always impressing the lady chef, Rosemary Schrager, with stuff he's found. He was probably the only one interested enough to buy the lot. But thanks for the giggle.

  • @izzyfarmer2500
    @izzyfarmer2500 4 роки тому

    Isn’t this the woman from Ladette to Lady?

  • @debwalls9405
    @debwalls9405 4 роки тому +1

    I thought salt melted ice!!

  • @PuffinPsychologist
    @PuffinPsychologist 4 роки тому

    21:06 is what you’re looking for.

  • @MissJosephine93
    @MissJosephine93 3 роки тому

    Was the 6th Duke the son of Lady Georgiana Spencer?

  • @zionvelfling8022
    @zionvelfling8022 3 роки тому

    Doesn't Peter become deadly if it comes into contact with acidic like things

  • @RoseSharon7777
    @RoseSharon7777 3 роки тому

    Now we know why Victoria was a bit "round".

  • @Squishyfrogpants
    @Squishyfrogpants 3 роки тому

    How did the Victorians make ice back then?

  • @callmethecommentcountess9329
    @callmethecommentcountess9329 11 місяців тому

    OK then

  • @leavingitblank9363
    @leavingitblank9363 3 роки тому

    spaddle = spatula + paddle

  • @pink_mellow4846
    @pink_mellow4846 4 роки тому +3

    FIRST

  • @marialiyubman
    @marialiyubman 3 роки тому

    They had all this melted arctic ice, the purest water one could get their hands on, they could have boiled it and drunk it, but no, they drank beer for sanitation purposes instead. So stupid.
    In 2020, I’d pay top dollar for arctic ice melted into water. I honestly don’t get Victorians.

  • @yashayah2115
    @yashayah2115 2 роки тому

    Hope that's not real Puter because it has lead.

  • @toothyelmo397
    @toothyelmo397 3 роки тому

    Nah guys, that's fucking PEMBERLY

  • @clementinemonroe717
    @clementinemonroe717 4 роки тому +1

    Totally boring for a 13 year old!

  • @CarterKey6
    @CarterKey6 4 роки тому

    So sad the English don’t appreciate their history

    • @tamaracarter1836
      @tamaracarter1836 4 роки тому +2

      Of course we do, why on Earth would you say such a thing? For example soon after filming took place (in the above video), £40 million was spent renovating Chatsworth House.

    • @iggle6448
      @iggle6448 4 роки тому

      I wonder what makes you think that? (Serious Q)

    • @CarterKey6
      @CarterKey6 4 роки тому

      iggle London

    • @CarterKey6
      @CarterKey6 4 роки тому

      Tamara Carter great name but honestly it seems as though most English are ok with monuments and statues being destroyed

    • @tamaracarter1836
      @tamaracarter1836 3 роки тому

      ​@@CarterKey6 Sorry I didn’t see your reply until now. Can you explain a bit more about what you actually mean because we greatly value our history and have so much of it remaining from giant medieval cathedrals to sumptuous Baroque interiors.

  • @acanorum
    @acanorum 4 роки тому

    tim the host needs braces. asap

    • @chndlr18
      @chndlr18 4 роки тому +4

      Why? Why should he put metal in his mouth and twist his teeth around? To appease people like you? Who do you think you are?

    • @acanorum
      @acanorum 4 роки тому

      chndlr18 pretty much

    • @heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459
      @heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459 2 роки тому

      @@chndlr18 his teeth are crooked and full of gaps