If your child has a more than mild form of dyslexia i would NOT use All About Reading. I have used this and it is a great curriculum, but in my opinion it is not enough support for a child with dyslexia. I would recommend Barton or the Wilson Reading System (wilson is done with a certified tutor in this program).
Have you heard of Tattum Reading? As a teacher who has brought students to grade level or above (including non-reader 5th graders with dyslexia) I highly, highly recommend Tattum Reading.
Yay Barton! We got a free subscription for Learning Ally for two of my boys, but they didn't take to it well. I think they were used to the professional audio quality on Audible, Epic, and Myon. I might try introducing it to them again.
My daughter was in public school through 3rd. She was diagnosed ASD and dyslexic as well as other learning deficits in reading and math. While in school she completed the entire Scottish Rite take Flight dyslexia program with a professional with little to no progress. We had a private tutor for a long time with no progress, did 100 easy lessons and gave up, we did AAR 1 and 2, we did AAS 1, we did the right brain reading curriculum, we have done teach type read and spell, we have done sequential spelling, we have re-done AAR 1, and she is now in 8th grade and still cannot read or spell a whole sentence without getting confused and struggling. Her comprehension is great and she uses assistive tech to talk to text. We haven't tried Barton. Is it that different than AAR to justify the price? I'm at a loss on how to help her at this point.
Sorry that I didn't see this sooner! My son with ASD hasn't had much success from tutoring programs either. My kids that aren't autistic have gotten to grade level according to their recent tests at school. I think, you could try Barton. It is way more detailed than any other program I have seen- almost to the point of being tedious. But, she may like the predictability of the lessons. You could always try it out and if it doesn't work you can sell it on eBay. I think it's worth a try. You can get a used set on eBay for cheaper. The lower levels are usually available. At the website you will find a screener to see if she has auditory processing issues which would need to be addressed first with "Foundations in Sounds" or "LiPS". Let me know if this helps or you have any other questions. For my 14 year old with ASD and Dyslexia I am debating about continuing tutoring. It seems fruitless and he is not enjoying it, but I still think we should keep trying. Something is better than nothing.
This is so informative! Thank you… question, we are currently completely level 1 of all about reading. I would like to transition over to Barton but if possible I’d like to skip to level 2. Do you have any insights? Thank you!!
I'm curious at what level your kids are in Barton and what age? We are in level 5 and the phrases and sentences are just way too grown up for my 11 year old daughter. But she's still not reading at grade level and doesn't have basic phonogram skills. I prefer to have reading and spelling in one program, but now I really see the wisdom in splitting them up like AAR. She could learn the phonograms faster then the Barton scope and sequence.
My kids that were doing Burton have quit because it was really intense to have tutoring three days a week for three kids. I’m still doing all about reading with Daniel, my youngest. he is on the last level. He has spelling tests for school now and we practice those every morning before we do all about reading. I don’t think I’ll do all about spelling. My older kids were tired of tutoring and, to be honest, so was I.
@teamgibber Wow! Thank you for sharing that. I was second guessing myself even though AAR is working for us and getting stressed that I need to push in the spelling more even though it exhausts him so. He is much better when only one thing is being focused on and spelling work is only a few times a month. Hopefully as he get older and better we can work on that more.
Very interesting. Spalding was recommended to me by 2 different reading teachers. It teaches spelling and that is supposed to help dyslexics read. I bought the old 96 version before it was rewritten for common core. Have you looked at it?
Sorry for the late reply! I haven't seen that method myself, but I just looked it up. The website says it is multi-sensory, sequential, and explicit. Those are the elements a good program needs. Has it been helping?
Barton Reading and Spelling program also teaches spelling and has very good results for most people that use it. Spelling, encoding, is a step up from reading, decoding. It requires all the skills needed for decoding- breaking down the parts of words, phoneme awareness, etc. So, if you study spelling with reading I think it is good. I have a video about spelling tests for dyslexics. It is a good skill but needs to be done in tandem with a reading program so that the words go along with the orthographic mapping the student has acquired.
Where did you get the book Teaching your children to read using the book of mormon? I'm very interested. My kiddo is autistic and trying to find ways to help her read.
I ordered a used copy online. I think it is out of print, but I found one. I sold mine online when I was done with it. It was about $50 if I remember correctly.
I totally agree. It kept me from getting my kids the help they need early on (except my youngest). But I wish I had even started a couple years earlier with him. This video is a young man sharing how he remediated using mainly Equipped For Reading Success by David Kilpatrick. It is $55 www.amazon.com/gp/product/0964690365/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i2. The video is a bit long but I put a lot of timestamps in it.
But, I also think the amount of time and planning they put into developing the programs makes it that price. All About Reading is affordable as far as reading curriculums go. Schools pay huge amounts of money for textbooks and curriculums. How old is your child? I kept trying to save money early on but later realized that it would've been worth it to sacrifice the $100 for the curriculum from the get-go. I was able to spend $100 on Christmas presents or emergencies. It just didn't seem like a justifiable expense early on. But, I wish I had sacrificed for it. It is so much easier to remediate children when they are young because of their brain development and because they are more willing to spend time on it in elementary school than in middle school and high school. It is like pulling teeth to get my kids to work with their tutors. (The school is paying for tutors for them, but I provided the curriculum).
@@AmyNoelonDyslexia I have a 4th grader and I have homeschooled him for 3 years. I am still being told by the school that he will outgrow it even though he's showed signs of dyslexia since he was 3 and there's a family history. I can't get tutoring for him because I have to go through the public school. As a single parent I can't afford $150 a level which is the cost of AAR. It's not affordable when most language arts curriculums are $50.
@@AmyNoelonDyslexia Amy, I agree with you 100%. Also, there are Facebook groups out there which sell used Barton sets, and you can often get them for a lot less money. They are still very expensive, but waiting to buy the program is just wasting precious time. As your child gets older, he will be less and less likely to want to work on reading and spelling due to the societal expectations that they should have mastered these skills years ago. It takes a significant time investment to do Barton, and you will want to start early. It can take 6 months to a year to complete a single level, and there are 10 levels. I would recommend doing All About Spelling along with Barton because All About Spelling has a unique way of teaching the spelling rules. Barton teaches the spelling rules, but in more of a lecture format; whereas All About Spelling teaches the spelling rules in a way in which the student must write the particular rule. I think that these two programs complement each other.
It was a structured reading program based around the Book of Mormon because that’s important to our faith. Sorry you can’t respect that part of our path.
If your child has a more than mild form of dyslexia i would NOT use All About Reading. I have used this and it is a great curriculum, but in my opinion it is not enough support for a child with dyslexia. I would recommend Barton or the Wilson Reading System (wilson is done with a certified tutor in this program).
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and feedback of all these different programs. This is so helpful!!
I am so glad it was helpful! Thank you for the comment.
Thanks for this excellent review, Amy!
Thank you for saying so. I try to make helpful videos.
Thank you! This is the best video!!
Thanks for your appreciation!
Great video! Your channel needs more views.
I appreciate that!
Have you heard of Tattum Reading? As a teacher who has brought students to grade level or above (including non-reader 5th graders with dyslexia) I highly, highly recommend Tattum Reading.
Thanks so much for the suggestion!
Very informative thank you!
You’re very welcome thanks for the comment.
Barton for the win! Try Learning Ally for the boys.
Yay Barton! We got a free subscription for Learning Ally for two of my boys, but they didn't take to it well. I think they were used to the professional audio quality on Audible, Epic, and Myon. I might try introducing it to them again.
My daughter was in public school through 3rd. She was diagnosed ASD and dyslexic as well as other learning deficits in reading and math. While in school she completed the entire Scottish Rite take Flight dyslexia program with a professional with little to no progress. We had a private tutor for a long time with no progress, did 100 easy lessons and gave up, we did AAR 1 and 2, we did AAS 1, we did the right brain reading curriculum, we have done teach type read and spell, we have done sequential spelling, we have re-done AAR 1, and she is now in 8th grade and still cannot read or spell a whole sentence without getting confused and struggling. Her comprehension is great and she uses assistive tech to talk to text. We haven't tried Barton. Is it that different than AAR to justify the price? I'm at a loss on how to help her at this point.
Sorry that I didn't see this sooner! My son with ASD hasn't had much success from tutoring programs either. My kids that aren't autistic have gotten to grade level according to their recent tests at school. I think, you could try Barton. It is way more detailed than any other program I have seen- almost to the point of being tedious. But, she may like the predictability of the lessons. You could always try it out and if it doesn't work you can sell it on eBay. I think it's worth a try. You can get a used set on eBay for cheaper. The lower levels are usually available. At the website you will find a screener to see if she has auditory processing issues which would need to be addressed first with "Foundations in Sounds" or "LiPS". Let me know if this helps or you have any other questions. For my 14 year old with ASD and Dyslexia I am debating about continuing tutoring. It seems fruitless and he is not enjoying it, but I still think we should keep trying. Something is better than nothing.
This is so informative! Thank you… question, we are currently completely level 1 of all about reading. I would like to transition over to Barton but if possible I’d like to skip to level 2. Do you have any insights? Thank you!!
Sorry I didn’t respond sooner! You probably already found an answer, but I believe Barton has pre tests for each level.
I personally wouldn't skip any levels. My child is level 5. If they don't need the level, they will fly through it and gain some confidence.
I am trying toe by toe and equipped for reading success
That is great. Trevor Clark said he used those too.
I'm curious at what level your kids are in Barton and what age? We are in level 5 and the phrases and sentences are just way too grown up for my 11 year old daughter. But she's still not reading at grade level and doesn't have basic phonogram skills. I prefer to have reading and spelling in one program, but now I really see the wisdom in splitting them up like AAR. She could learn the phonograms faster then the Barton scope and sequence.
My kids that were doing Burton have quit because it was really intense to have tutoring three days a week for three kids. I’m still doing all about reading with Daniel, my youngest. he is on the last level. He has spelling tests for school now and we practice those every morning before we do all about reading. I don’t think I’ll do all about spelling. My older kids were tired of tutoring and, to be honest, so was I.
@teamgibber
Wow! Thank you for sharing that. I was second guessing myself even though AAR is working for us and getting stressed that I need to push in the spelling more even though it exhausts him so. He is much better when only one thing is being focused on and spelling work is only a few times a month. Hopefully as he get older and better we can work on that more.
Very interesting. Spalding was recommended to me by 2 different reading teachers. It teaches spelling and that is supposed to help dyslexics read. I bought the old 96 version before it was rewritten for common core. Have you looked at it?
Sorry for the late reply! I haven't seen that method myself, but I just looked it up. The website says it is multi-sensory, sequential, and explicit. Those are the elements a good program needs. Has it been helping?
Barton Reading and Spelling program also teaches spelling and has very good results for most people that use it. Spelling, encoding, is a step up from reading, decoding. It requires all the skills needed for decoding- breaking down the parts of words, phoneme awareness, etc. So, if you study spelling with reading I think it is good. I have a video about spelling tests for dyslexics. It is a good skill but needs to be done in tandem with a reading program so that the words go along with the orthographic mapping the student has acquired.
Where did you get the book Teaching your children to read using the book of mormon? I'm very interested. My kiddo is autistic and trying to find ways to help her read.
I ordered a used copy online. I think it is out of print, but I found one. I sold mine online when I was done with it. It was about $50 if I remember correctly.
What about for older kids (9yeat-old) who can read (slowly) but poor at writing and spelling.
I would say to use the Barton Reading and Spelling system or Wilson. They are great for spelling.
I don't understand why if it's dyslexic specific then it's outrageously priced. I can not afford AAR and Barton is hugely overpriced.
I totally agree. It kept me from getting my kids the help they need early on (except my youngest). But I wish I had even started a couple years earlier with him. This video is a young man sharing how he remediated using mainly Equipped For Reading Success by David Kilpatrick. It is $55 www.amazon.com/gp/product/0964690365/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i2. The video is a bit long but I put a lot of timestamps in it.
But, I also think the amount of time and planning they put into developing the programs makes it that price. All About Reading is affordable as far as reading curriculums go. Schools pay huge amounts of money for textbooks and curriculums. How old is your child? I kept trying to save money early on but later realized that it would've been worth it to sacrifice the $100 for the curriculum from the get-go. I was able to spend $100 on Christmas presents or emergencies. It just didn't seem like a justifiable expense early on. But, I wish I had sacrificed for it. It is so much easier to remediate children when they are young because of their brain development and because they are more willing to spend time on it in elementary school than in middle school and high school. It is like pulling teeth to get my kids to work with their tutors. (The school is paying for tutors for them, but I provided the curriculum).
@@AmyNoelonDyslexia I have a 4th grader and I have homeschooled him for 3 years. I am still being told by the school that he will outgrow it even though he's showed signs of dyslexia since he was 3 and there's a family history. I can't get tutoring for him because I have to go through the public school. As a single parent I can't afford $150 a level which is the cost of AAR. It's not affordable when most language arts curriculums are $50.
@@AmyNoelonDyslexia Amy, I agree with you 100%. Also, there are Facebook groups out there which sell used Barton sets, and you can often get them for a lot less money. They are still very expensive, but waiting to buy the program is just wasting precious time. As your child gets older, he will be less and less likely to want to work on reading and spelling due to the societal expectations that they should have mastered these skills years ago. It takes a significant time investment to do Barton, and you will want to start early. It can take 6 months to a year to complete a single level, and there are 10 levels. I would recommend doing All About Spelling along with Barton because All About Spelling has a unique way of teaching the spelling rules. Barton teaches the spelling rules, but in more of a lecture format; whereas All About Spelling teaches the spelling rules in a way in which the student must write the particular rule. I think that these two programs complement each other.
@@ReiverGrad14 He will NOT outgrow it. Those $50 programs will just be a waste of money. Save up for Barton & All About Spelling.
You lost me at The Book of Mormon. 🙅♀️
It was a structured reading program based around the Book of Mormon because that’s important to our faith. Sorry you can’t respect that part of our path.