Did the U.S. Carry Out a Ukrainian Coup?
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- Investigative journalist Robert Parry talks about Russia's move to invade Ukraine's Crimean peninusla and the role of the US and the west in fomenting crisis there
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americans should be rewatching this clip all day, every day.
Do u think the cia helped stage the riots in ukr
Some of them would just say he's a Trump cronie who loves Putin and try to posthumously cancel him and discredit his whole career. Instead of, you know, respectfully communicating with information and facts based in reality. Some already know and would agree. And the rest can't even point to Europe on a map.
@@JiaruiChen_ classic text book operation of overthrowing a democratically elected govt , is clear that either the cia or some ther us agency is behind the funding of the coup
@@JiaruiChen_ stage??
@13ased_American and that is just... criminal
We spent $5 billion to lure Ukraine away from Russia & then said Putin was paranoid.
That's what happens when they own all the big media and movie industries in the world. They have the influence to brainwash people. Especially those who live a comfortable life.
@RustyBoysGaming A simple “coup” doesn’t involve 200 thousand civilians across the country rioting because their president is corrupt and signing the country away to Russia.
A coup usually means a military junta or small faction rushed the capital with little more than 4-10K people at best.
@RustyBoysGaming can’t even spell sovereign correctly, goes to show how little you gave a shit about sovereignty in the first place 😝
@RustyBoysGaming Also I love how naive you act, so immature, so pathetic. You could easily fool a child though.
@RustyBoysGaming Kyiv has existed longer than Moscow, but your too retarded to know about that and know less about history than me so I’ll let you go off boy
The US has absolutely no right to question Russia of attacking Ukraine, when they themselves gave no explanation of attacking Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan!
unfortunately common Ukrainians were fucked dry without soap. I do feel sorry for them and their future but dark, suffering days are just starting for them.
They did give us an explanation. Albeit a phony one. As hard as they tried they just could not find those weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Nobody found any.... Oh well that was their bogus explanation or reasoning. :(
But at least George W got to proclaim "Mission Accomplished".
vigilhammer You kind of get it... but the fact that you really think Russia "attacked" Ukraine shows some ignorance on your part. There was no violence when Crimea opted to re-join Russia. Russian troops were welcomed, and Crimea is better off than anywhere else in Ukraine at the moment. The "attack" is an imaginary invention of US speechwriters.
*****
YUP the imaginary invention of the word 'attack' on Ukraine is what i was implying in the message.. Its pretty ignorant of you, if you could`nt understand that.. But yea u kind of get it now i see.. u do understand that America put it as an 'attack' and not the rest of the world. So thats good.
vigilhammer Sorry, it was a misunderstanding. I know the score... i just thought you were saying US shouldn't criticize the "Russian invasion/attack on Crimea" (as they put it) only because they attack foreign nations more than anyone else.
But i see the sarcasm now. My bad, we are on the same page my friend. I am embarrassed at what my government has become... not all Americans support this garbage.
Wow ! Listening to this in Feb 2023. Can’t believe this video is from 8 years back. Seems so relevant to what’s happening now.
Unfortunately people forget easily
Bro the same... You have to look in-between some but it's forgotten stripped from the record... We tell you all what to think come on I work for the system!!!! System of the down. . Sugar 99
That’s why I’m here. I wanted to see how this was reported before the latest propaganda machine was in control
Because it was the same team (Victoria Nuland, Joe Biden and Jake Sullivan) that orchestrated this coup, and it is the same team that kept prolonging this war, and the same team that gave order to Nord Stream 2 Pipelines bombing.
@Gigi Ghiba I have been thinking about it. Couple of videos I had saved says “ not available in geographical area” now.
1) Nuland (US), McCain (US), Graham (US) openly campaigning in the streets of Kiev - well-documented fact, Nuland even handing out candy and cookies
*Imagine those were Russians doing the same stuff in your country.*
2) Nuland (US) and Pyatt (US) on a leaked call debating who shall be put in the new government. (The "Fvck the EU!" part was something I could agree on with those two.)
*Imagine those were Russians doing the same stuff in your country.*
Or chinese officials.... these disruptive actions by US politicians in other countries internal politics have become normalized. Fortunatly we have come a long way since 2014 regarding american dominance in global affairs, the unipolar world is over
Firstly, Russians have been doing far worse since the 90's, wanna ask the Georgians how they felt about Russia *literally invading their country* or perhaps the Moldovans as to why Russia helped break off a part of their country?
Secondly, You misunderstand the context of the discussion in the nuland call, Yanukovych offered both Klitchko and Yatsenyuk a deal to enter government (to placate the protesters), Nuland WANTED them to accept the deal...the deal ends up falling on its face in the end and yanukovych flees.
Yet if you say any of this now you're accused of being a Magatt, or a Putin troll propaganda mouth piece, when the facts are so easy to access with a couple of key strokes, like mf, I didn't get my info from thr Tucker Carlson interview with Putin, I got it from looking shit up on internet, and in CIA archives.
Russians ARE interfering MASSIVELY in US domestic politics (as is China) and until the SU collapsed they were MASSIVELY influential in trades unions in the EU and UK attempting to bring down governments. Arthur Scargill in UK in 1970s brought down Heath government, and was being paid via SU.
Russia sold natural gas for almost nothing to Ukraine, but OK, it was completely disinterested
SHORT ANSWER, YES THEY DID!!!
absolutely
Its been almost a decade and still zero evidence...damn.
I don't trust our government, I don't trust other countries governments I don't trust the media.
It's not because I want to be this way. It's because I'm paying attention
Dito
Look up John Mearsheimer’s work “ why leaders lie”
Me either.
This is what governments have always done.
Very well put.
Well this was almost prophetic
With hints of the 2020 election
That's what I thought.
You misspelled *pathetic 🤡🤦♀🤣
He called yanukovic a democratric leader SMH 😐
Sees neo-nazi militias everywhere -
What an absolute moron - happy he doesn't roam the world anymore, some less stupidity in the gene pool.
Russia have a military base there long long before all this started
And they would have maintained a military base there regardless of the outcome of anything in Kiev.
This Robert Parry guy didn't miss a point. He was spot on and truthful. Very honest man.
Really what about the part where he made it seem that Ukrainians ousted the corrupt president because they taught that he would stop democracy in the country, when they actually got rid of him because of corruption and the fact that he was selling them out to Putin?
True he moved up the elections but was still going ahead with the deal with Russia, which is why the protest started?
The guy was very deceptive, or very misinformed.
Gary Cartman
Look what the Ukrainian people have now. A western installed set of puppets completely beholden to transnational corporate hegemony. They're already fleecing Ukraine's natural resources. Chevron was awarded a $10 Billion contract to extract Ukraine's gas and oil. Pensioners will now be receiving $80 per month as compared to the $160 per month. Austerity measures to feed the appetite of the IMF.
What Washington has fostered in Kiev is a grotesque violation of international law.
terrafirma91
The current government is a temporary government until the elections, than an transparent government will be elected by the people. Of course there is going to be instability in a country for a while after you remove a government from power but if it is corrupt it is best to remove it and the former government was really corrupt.
The pensions might be so low because, uhm maybe the former government nearly bankrupt the country and when your beloved president fled, he robed what was left of the money.
Gary Cartman
We cannot use conjecture when discussing a 50% cut in the retirees pension allotments. When the IMF steps in to dictate any nations economy the results can be devastating. The interim government will steal as much as they can, and allow multinationals to take as much as possible of Ukraine's natural resources. Besides, how 'honest' will the elections be? As Josef Stalin once said, the person casting the ballot doesn't determine the outcome of any election. It's the guy counting the ballots who determines the winner. Lets hope they don't use American-style Diebold electronic voting machines.
Robert Parry is the journalist who broke the Iran Contra story.
Now that the western oligarchs have taken over Ukraine's economy the pension for each Ukrainian has been cut from $160 to $80. They'll have to pay for that IMF "loan". The interim government has just granted Chevron a $10 Billion deal to extract the country's vast energy resources. It's all about the expansion of global transnational corporatism.
the lower their money, e cheaper and thus easier to control ukraine. the fact that the soceity is most corrupt is making i even more fun. Nuland literally giving cookies to e deminstrators on e ground .. thats how easy it was.
What you have said there, basically explains the US and it's closest N@ TO allies treacherous dealings with N@ ZI 'S, to get their hands on the rest of Eukraine's assets, including their agricultural land, ports for another N@ TO base and war ships, in readiness for world domination.
They would be controlling everything from the food for our mouths, to our money, which they will use to tame the masses by deprivation, Just like Trudeau, did to the striking truckers.
This also explains how the son of sleepy Joe, was an executive on Eukraine's gas supply, on $50,000 a month, (legitimately.)
He only resigned a couple of weeks before the invasion.
Yes, your comment Is brilliant. I wish I could share it.
Capitalism at it's finest :)
@@rcchristian2 farthest thing from capitalism
& Here we are today...
Close down the US embassy and there would be no more protests.
I'm inclined to agree with you. When the funding ceases, perhaps the violence would subside and cooler policy will prevail... maybe?
@@TheThinkingVeteran It has nothing to do with funding, but the embassy should be closed because the US has its dirty hands all over this mess. Everyone always blames Russia for everything. The big bad wolf. NOT. The same people involved in the coup to take down a duly elected president, Donald Trump, were behind the coup and uprising in Ukraine.
Finally a report about Ukraine with a sane title. Now, lets see if the content is as serious as the title.
RIP Robert Parry thank you for speaking the truth
How did Robert Parry kick the bucket ?
Interesting that I am watching this now in 2023. This video absolutely demonstrates the fact that Ukraine was definitely couped in 2014!
I came here for the same reason.
Yet a large portion of Americans don’t want to believe it but Barack, John McCain, and Lindsey Graham had outspoken support of Ukraine coup and even wished to arm them back then. Theres pictures of McCain meeting directly with Social Nationalist Party of Ukraine supporter, Oleh Tyahnybok. Also interesting that in this interview they mention that Russia gave discounted natural gas to Ukraine as part of their deal. Yet those very pipelines were destroyed. Wish people would actually look into the history and not blindly support something as if the US hasnt started coups all over the world and now, at home.
Couped by people with swasticas that the local police were afraid to interfere with.
How does the age of the video make it more convincing? if anything it should be LESS convincing since even a decade on there is NO evidence of a US coup.
It’s 2024.. I wish people were seeing news like that not current garbage we are being fed
Narratives being fed. Exactly like during 2nd Iraq invasion.
Check out the doc by the late John Pilger. " the war you don't see"
An eye opener.
It's great that we have this data archive!
$85 billion later and US has no interest in Ukraine? 😂
Search on UA-cam . ' Ukraine Crisis - What You're Not Being Told . '
@@rezakarampour6286 could you send the link?
I have trouble finding the video
@@tishaak2800 Here is the link .
ua-cam.com/video/fWkfpGCAAuw/v-deo.html
@@rezakarampour6286 Many thanks
RIP Robert Parry. Wish you still would be here. Seems like since you are gone, Seymour Hersh has become one of the last real Journalists still alive. Without people like you, we are truly lost.
How did he die?
@@quoderatdemonstrandum7215 pancreatic cancer
@@donalain69 Rip. At least he was not murdered or anything
@@quoderatdemonstrandum7215 i would not be that sure about it. According to ChatGPT the CIA was doing research related to cancer (not in how to heal it it, but in how to cause it).
One notable example is the CIA's involvement in the search for potential cancer-causing agents, particularly the study of carcinogens. The agency funded a project called Project FJSP (Federal Jackass Surveillance Program), which aimed to investigate potential chemical carcinogens and their effects on laboratory animals. Hugo Chavez accused the US of having weaponized cancer after several South American leaders who opposed the US were diagnosed with cancer at the same time. Shortly after, he died of cancer himself.
Did we cause the coupe? Yes we did
Vladimir Poopstain
No way you’re the cause of the bmw 328i coupe?
But yes it’s true America did the coopity coup while riding in the Bentley coupe
@@christinepark1398 lol no one brought that up
I was making a joke on the word coup
And I support Russia lol ur hilarious
i agree. it makes no sense to me at all. i'm going to remove it but thought i should say so. BTW 🎶 if i had money 🎵 tell ya what i'd do 🎶 i'd go downtown and buy a mercury coupe 🎶 cause i'm crazy bout a mercury 🎵 and so on.
Thanks for sharing this interview. It's a vital key to understanding the source of the present crisis.
the present crisis is created by the US itself, they intervene in the Ukrainian internal affairs, because they hated Ukrainian business strategy.
YUP F UKRAINE; UKRAINE IS A NAZI STATE! 💯
Being from Europe (Croatian) l am positively surprised about how many Americans still kept an open mind and didn't fall into the trap of the lies and false propaganda from the side of government and mass media (especially and mostly from democrats!).. Your guest appears to me as a very calm, well - intended and objective gentleman, but also well-informed about geo-political situatuion in Eastern Europe.. Respect!
And l ll quote a part of another person's comment bellow that l completely agree with, which is probably the shortest and best conclusion about this war: It is all about more global corporatism!
So, let s not pretend that it's about freedom, justice, democracy and other "big" words, cause it's not: it s only about money!
But those hypocrite company-bosses and the politicians should once at least ADMIT it!!!
Says Putin.👻🪳
Biden apologist.@@harmgregory4560
and i thought that croatia was an ally
Ally to WHAT? Or WHO?
To a further enslaving of the World by the Old and New colonial powers? My IQ and my ethical code are both too high for supporting those criminals who live from spilling blood of OTHERS for their own profit.. Dude, l think with my own head! And that is my personal opinion, not of Croatia's government (which is, by the way, same corrupt as US or ANY other government in the world!).
So sorry to disappoint you, l hope you don't cry!! 😪😁
Long live freedom of the folks and down with the state terrorism!
@@harmgregory4560 How big is your brain? I looked for it with a microscope, couldn't find it!
WHen Putin says he is fighting neo-nazis, whole world is #PrayForUkraine rofl
Azov Battalion, Putin was telling the truth
newscasters and most people think Putin's coo coo for saying this and in actually it's the truth. I'd say the USA populace...or most of it has no idea of the complexities of this situation at all, ever. I don't even think they give a crap about Ukraine at all. It's just woo woo I hate Russians they're such bad commies and the USA will come to save the day cause we're on the good side
You’re clearly not informed about Ukrainian history to include the very prominent role proud & loud far right neo nazis played in the us and soros backed coup in 2014 & their role in various acts of violence against pro Russian Ukrainians.
Azov like mentioned also the Ukrainian forces also with the people of certain areas of Ukraine are for the nazi's as they are supporters of Stepan Bandera also if you look up on google at WW2 you with find the Ukrainian SS soldiers of hitlers etc all there are old uniforms back from WW2 showing all their symbolism and history do not lie.
Now, if only western mainstream media could tell the truth like Robert Parry. I know wishful thinking...
Now,you know that's not possible
Oh wow !!! You were right, when most people didn't even know the M$M were just the US leaders mouthpiece, on news programmes and in the newspapers, all singing from the same song sheet, telling lies. Some sheeple don't even know they're doing it yet.
This thread is brilliant to bring the none believers into the know.
They are he isn't
if he is telling the truth then im mickey mouse
The EU should invest 5 billion dollars / euros to make Texas a new state of Mexico. Especially as the south of the USA used to be Mexican anyway.
Just return Texas to Mexico
No
It's sad that great and honest people like him dies. We need more of them. Most journalist nowdays sell their soul for the highest bidder.
What happened to him?
Search . ' Ukraine Crisis - What You're Not Being Told . '
Thank Bill Clinton for passing the Telecommunications Act, unifying the corporate voice to control the message.
@@BarnabyWild13 The "news" media has always been garbage. It didn't just change with Clinton. When you know one area, and you hear the "news" media report on it, you will always find out they are way off. I used to try to help reporters get the story correct, and they were never interested. That's because they are know they are propagandists.
Thanks, Robert. You are one of the absolute very-best, remaining, few, objective, critical, investigative journalists left. The TV-MSM has succeeded in its 65-year conquest in its deception, duping, conditioning, training, mind-control of the masses. Ukraine is an ABSOLUTELY PERFECT EXAMPLE. (Trust me. I'm 78 and been driving a taxi for 48 years in a major city ... trashed the TV in 1970 ... library 785 non-fiction books... and, still-have-an-open-mind, LIKE YOU! Thanks, Robert!)
How is Ukraine a perfect example? What Robert failed to mention is that the Duma (parliament) had rejected the deal with Russia, which Yanukovich then illegally signed, and had voted to Impeach him, removing him from office on Feb 22nd 2014, does he claim it was a coup? Sure, was it a coup? If so it was done legally, and this constant attitude that Ukrainians aren't human, but mindless drones who should be slaves to russia is sickening.
😂
Or not....😛
Agree! Consortium News lives on as a rare example of superb journalism. Robert would be proud.
Here after watching Tucker Carlson interview Putin
Perry is so missed in our present - and so is Robert Fisk. Pilger is almost silent, Greenwald and others are named out and Hersh is now called a loose blogger in the western mainstream sphere. And Assange is put in a kafka'sk tomb.
This man spoke truth
9 years later, over half a million lives cut short.
Much much more
I believe now in 2023 that American leaders did implement a coop in Ukraine political matters. Now Ukraine is being dissolved by Russia because of the American interfering in this region
Yes Obamma did😮😮😮.
Always good to recap events and see why we are where we are .
Good interview, good summary and description of the standard operating procedures of US policy.
All these reports have really aged well...
This is interesting to see and for me gives greater insight into the complexities of what’s happening in 2022.
There are no complexities. The US covertly brainwashed masses of people in Ukraine in order to oust the pro-Russian government and to get in a pro-US one, in order to get NATO closer to Russia's borders or to provoke a Russian attack, which hurts Russia's international image and justifies economic sanctions that weaken Russia's economy. Basically the US doesn't want to fight Russia themselves and have brainwashed silly Ukrainians to do it for them. It's called a proxy war.
These mobs were brainwashed by the National Endowment for Democracy, a "non-governmental organization" that receives virtually all its funding from the US government ($5 billion in total since 1991) and was established in 1983 to undermine other countries governments.
"We should not have to do this kind of work covertly," said Carl Gershman in 1986, while he was president of the Endowment. "It would be terrible for democratic groups around the world to be seen as subsidized by the C.I.A. We saw that in the 60’s, and that’s why it has been discontinued. We have not had the capability of doing this, and that’s why the endowment was created."
Allen Weinstein, who helped draft the legislation establishing NED, declared in 1991: "A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA."
very good report direct and factual!
Don't forget Nuland's parents were Ukrainian.
Her husband at the 'Institute for Study of War' has been stiring the pot.
They are Jewish, born in Ucraine!
Yes, yes they did
For those in the know, they would agree I'm sure..that this vid is ino of the best describing what's happening in Ukraine.
It was great to listen to Robert Parry 9years later !
Did the US arrange a Coup ????? Probably
Both Syria and Ukraine, as Mearsheimer would say, have been led down the primrose path.
This guy is level-headed and speaking objectively instead of pushing an agenda. Respect.
Yes, they did.
' The 2014 American Coup In Ukraine '
OBAMA, and his ilk are not American.
Thak you Mr. Perry for your incisive and correct analysis.
Victoria Newlands!!
She has an uncancellable reservation in HELL
Wow! What an awesome and absolutely clear talks to listen to As Robert Parry pointed out that it seems like international law lies in the eyes of the beholder. 💯
Wow this video should be shown on TVs ! So many years passed by and one had forgot the history of the conflict , other were brainwashed and if they hear something like this , many would automatically say - "RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA" and when they respond that sounds like an emotional conditioned reflex, that has been instilled by modern media technologies.
Short answer. Yes!
America look what you have done
This was a really insightful interview.
This video is a fresh breeze of air. Thank you
My first time listening to Robert Parry. Excellent insight, tone and information. 👍🏼👍🏼 Thank you. PS, beautiful purple walls!
Excellent interview
Of course it did. We have proof the U.S. did.
It was really interesting to watch this today, in light of what has been happening in Ukraine in recent years...
With 20/20 hindsight we can say that Robert Parry was spot-on 9 years ago.
RIP Mr. Parry
This douchbag was working for the Russians
Except for the whole skipping over Yankukovych promising to fulfill the agreement with the EU then cancelling the agreement the day before it was sent to go through. THE DRIVING FACTOR, which brought the students out to maidan square to protest.
@@Ytuser485what agreement are you referring to?
there was peaceful protests but was different from the rest.. and what I've found, they didn't take hostages or lives, nor that they were involved or the cause, for the violence and riots..
@@rubylicious1024 It was called the European Union-Ukraine Association Agreement. The students were the first to protest the cancellation of the EU trade agreement. In response the president took prisoners out of jails and used them as personal thugs (Berkut). Berkut’s attack on the protesting students in the Maidan square was the exact moment the fires of revolution were fanned. IMMEDIATELY following the attack on the students followed the march of a million, where nearly a million people marched in Kyiv to protest the cancellation of the agreement, corruption of the government and brutality against Ukrainian civilians. Saying that nobody was killed or kidnapped shows me just how little you know on the situation. 108 civilians were killed during the revolution with it turning violent when three civilians were shot on January 22. Later on the body of Yuriy Verbytsky was found following his kidnapping by Berkut forces. Thousands of Civilians were kidnapped by Berkut. 17 children were released from kidnapping just last year. Berkut was dissolved just a month later as it had become synonymous with brutality on civilians and abuse of power. With all due respect, you are terribly misinformed on the situation.
Yes
For those that still do not believe that Crimea has always been Russian, (Crimean people are Russian and now want to be part of Russia), Almost 100 years before Ukraine claimed Crimea as theirs through an Administrative action, in 1853 Britain, France, Turkey, and Sardinia declared war on Russia during the Crimean War, fought in Sevastopol, Crimea.
Well gee, if we are picking borders from arbitrary dates in the past, is anyone going to tell Mongolia that most of Russia is theirs? Maybe the UK should claim India again? Roman Empire V2 when?
@@seffundoosNah, let's go back further and give the Scythians (Iran) their rightful lands back.
Great interview, but not sure the question was really answered. "Support" is one thing, "carrying out a coup" is quite another.
Of course. Do you need a drawing to understand it?
Great coverage guys. Glad to see someone spreading the truth besides RT.
LOL
Lmao imagine think RT isn't heavily biased
Robert Parry is awesome
yes😕
Great info. its defiantly a lot more complicated then it seems!!!
This aged really well, thanks.
RIP Robert Parry
Yes.
Aged like fine wine
Just nine years ago but feels just like Yesterday. Surely the truth can't be hidden neither can it be killed.
The take of most people here completely ignores the aspirations and incentives within the ukrainian society, where majority of people wanted to get away from russia as much as possible and get closer to europe. In fact Yanukovich actually promised to deliver on that but he lied. So this doesn't take into account that most ukrainians actually wanted to get away from russia and be closer to the west for very very long time before that point.
Majority of Ukrainian society? Nope, you're wrong, the polls around the time of the Euromaidan indicate most Ukrainians did not support Maidan, it was mostly the Western Regions of Ukraine that supported it. Which is no surprise, look at the electoral maps of Ukraine, it has historically been split in half, with the eastern regions being the most pro-Russian.
Yanukovych didn't lie, he placed his signature on the Agreement on settlement of political crisis in Ukraine, which literally on the same day, the Rada created a draft law to impeach him despite the fact that France, Germany, and Poland signed the agreement to end the bloodshed. A day later, the police forces pulled out of Maidan and the protestors didn't back down, instead they stormed his presidential palace and his home while he was Kharkiv, he had no choice but to flee.
You want a new world order?
Really good interview.
Why would the EU want to deal with the Ukraine if they are broke anyway?
To loan them money, and to keep them in debt. Then the EU owns them is my guess. The world bank moves in and starts making them trade in their currency.
Because they are still a very large and productive economy? Being broke is a side effect of being a kleptocracy. Fix that, and Ukraine's economy will have to problems.
They only have money because of Russia!
They may not have money, but they have resources. Gas is off the charts expensive, wheat will be too because Ukraine is one of the largest suppliers. There’s more value in the world beyond money.
They have farmland and oil
' The Ukraine Crisis - What You're Not Being Told . '
Why does this video not load, just keeps buffering, while most other TRNN videos work fine?
I would agree. That is Russia is an Imperialist power in this just as the EU is, but I think'll at least for the momment side with Russia (as much as I don't want to) to side againist the Fascists and generally the situation getting worse.
final straw. unsubscribed from this shill of a 'news' website.
The pathetic whelp of people who seek media that only fits their perspective, Yes please do unsubscribe and go back to CNN and Fox.
REAL News is a fake alternative. CNN and FOX are pure propaganda.
max klein because it doesn't follow the cnn or fox pure progaganda?
Interesting what’s being said now today 😉 q sent me.
CAN WE ?? We already HAD at t hat point.
Thank you 😊
Man this dude just walked right by the whole cancelling of the agreement with the EU by Yanukovych... how strange, wasn't that a major contributor to Euromaiden?
Exactly I was bout to say. It was STUDENTS who started the protest, because they understood that cancelling the agreement with the EU would end their hopes of ever achieving EU-standard education. Once Yanukovych sent Beirut to attack the students, that’s when the whole country stood up against the thug who was beating young men and women. This guy was either extremely deceptive or horribly misinformed
This is what they always fail to mention when talking about the current Russia-Ukraine war!
This is so relevant to today's events in Ukraine.
After a long time some truth speak !!!
Ukraines military ain't so powerful anymore now is it... they finally got someone their own size to pick on...the Russian Military
Absolutely the US engineered that
I was there three blocks away drinking cappuccino in a cafe while maybe 3000 people were rioting in Maidan burning tires.
This was absolutely a Coup.
Yikes. We are doomed.
Your "investigative journalist" has a very bad grasp on the facts.
Anyone watching this closely knows that the deal for early elections is scheduled to proceed and should be carried out, and that Yanukovych *fled* because he was scared of the facing the consequences of an investigation into the mass shootings of the protesters with live fire, leading to about 70 deaths. Yanukovych was not merely "flawed". He was a kleptocrat that had no concern for the economic strife of his people.
The "neo nazis" represented a tiny percent of the maidan protesters and have no ideological influence over them. Ex-Israeli IDF forces and the "right sector" group worked together with the main bulk of the protesters to resist the Berkut violence. The Maidan protesters, by the end, represented the *majority* of the Ukrainian sentiment, not a minority. The Ukraine is *not* likely the fall under a dictatorship -- the Maidan protesters would not allow this. The idea that these were people trained by western shadow groups is ridiculous. Just dig a little deeper and you will see this is entirely indigenous.
Plenty of borders have been established for "technical reasons". After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Crimea was part of Ukraine, and the people may have been culturally Russian, but there is a significant Ukrainian and Tartar representation there too.
Israelis do infiltrate neo-nazis (and al-qaeda) and use them to their ends. Do you forget that Al-Qaeda was trained and used by the US? Such contradictions are resolved because our ends are above the ends of the pawns we use. Surely you grasp this basic tenet of power? It is not acceptable for the US to sponsor a coup in a country to overthrow the elected government. That is against the constitution of any country. The parties had agreed on 21 Feb to hold early elections. Why then the coup? It was to ensure control of the country during the elections to ensure a certain outcome - hardly democratic intentions. The whole thing is disgusting. The actual intention is to move NATO to Russia's borders, something they had "promised" they wouldn't do. Right now, large portions of Ukraine are not going to follow the coup. You cannot force yourself on people and declare how democratic you are and condemn them for not being "democratic" like you. Are you just bloody stupid? What unbelievable hypocrisy.
The Ukrainian and Tartar contingent, by all accounts I've seen is very small in Crimea.
And the Fascists, be they a minority, seem to be in control of quite a lot. After all, they got Parliament to pass a lot of crappy laws whilst they controlled the buildings.
another "wise" and enlightened by watching TV closely, take care of your eyesight as brain is long lost..I lose faith in humanity..
You need to put your own opinions in check, IMHO. If you see who the "right-sector" is, they may not be "neo Nazi" but the nationalist members who are in parliament have those ties. Reuters reported March 1 that two members of parliament had come before the protesters while they were encamped in the square to inform them that Russia had "declared" war, and this was before Putin ramped up his actions in Crimea. Clearly, there were agitators bent on riling up the protesters, whom at that point were only clashing, albeit bloodily, with police and government security forces. The president Ukrainian people ran off was elected.
The problem is that none of the EU/US negotiations are waiting for Ukraines to go back to the poll and ELECT someone the country is willing to stand behind. Instead there is a mad dash on the part of the West to secure agreements from the interim or acting prime minister, who was not elected. Ukraine needs a bailout and it pitted the EU and Russia for the better deal to keep the lights on. As to the cause of "freedom", Ukraine does not need EU membership - never mind that the EU agreement wouldn't have technically made Ukraine an EU state, regardless - to legitimize their democracy. If Ukraine's elected president was a horrid leader, it only speaks all the more to the fact that democratic order is in dire need of respect. Beyond that, Ukrainians would do well to strive first and foremost for internal reforms to give them more power at the negotiation table. Short of rooting out its own corruption, any agreement or bailout argued from a compromised position would undermine Ukraine's sovereignty, and that's true no matter what deal they struck or with whom. This wasn't about "freedom" because Ukrainians already HAVE the power of the vote - they just couldn't be compelled to wait (for elections), and into that angst and turmoil far-right agitators began to stir rumors of war before Putin even invaded.
At the core, this is about desperate economic times calling for desperate measures because Ukraine faces default due to corruption. Even Europe's Council on Foreign Relations, in a USA Today piece, indicates the EU deal would have required mass closures of Ukraine businesses that are not ready to compete due to corruption or the need to modernize to make EU trade feasible. Did the Maidan protesters comprehend that had their former president taken the EU deal even more of them would be out of work and impoverished? Do they have access to news showing how hard austerity has been on the Greeks, who needed a lot less money and for whom unemployment has hit 30 percent? Were they paying attention to the fact that the EU is cash-strapped trying to prop up economically weak but full-fledged EU member states such as Italy, Spain and Portugal? At best, these protesters are really naive. The grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence but anyone familiar with that American truism also knows that usually that is not the case. Looking to outside authorities to fix internal problems is a recipe for meddling and loss of liberty - not "freedom". Ukraine must put itself in a stronger position by making serious internal efforts because everyone else has their own agenda in mind, and that goes for Putin and the EU/US alike.
Your comment - "investigative journalist" has a very bad grasp on the facts, actually I totally disagree his knowledge of history is very good and better than most, quoting the fall of Iranian PM Mosaddegh in the 50's showed a rare insight and understanding of what is taking place as the tactics used were and are identical to what is happening in the Ukraine - history has a habit of repeating itself
If people tried this in america they would be machine gunned to death in an instant
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All of this is recalled with ease to those with a longstanding subscription to Johnson's Russia List and a true interest in Russia; curiosity required. Parry's Consortium News should at least be bookmarked. RIP Robert....a hero to honest media people.
What a great historical interview and as many have said what a shame it’s not replayed on current television. But even if it was shown I’m not sure that many from the Western world would watch it. Most people from the Western world unfortunately believe that the USA does no wrong or just aren’t interested in thinking which the American government takes advantage of. There appears to be a growing awareness in the West that all is not well with American geopolitical policies but the reality is those neocons to determine American foreign policy appear to be untouchable.
all I can say is wow, absolutely ridiculous coverage ... amateur at best. so the Ukrainians who disapproved of Yanukovich are fascists and neo nazis ? think about this logically. How many neo nazis in the rest of europe are pro EU ? the EU wants equality legislation, protection for minorities, gays, women etc. How the hell would ANY neo nazi be down with that ? I don't think the situation is simplistic and I would be just as skeptical of the EU as I would be of Russia, but characterizing the pro EU citizens of Ukraine as neo nazis or fascists without some solid evidence is just name calling by children because they lack the vocabulary to properly analyze a complex situation. The US may have some interest in this but it isn't one of the big dogs in this fight. The EU and Russia are, and both have blood on their hands and corruption in their structure. Ukraine would do best to tell them all to screw off and go their own way.
Tyahnybok isn't part of the new government now right?
libcom.org/news/neo-nazis-far-right-protesters-ukraine-23012014
The internet always ruining your party.
Kafka Dev because neo-nazis or other undesirables join a protest doesn't make them the people behind it. every protest in the last 10-20 years has had elements that are not what the majority of people protesting want other to think they are all about. I've seen it in pro palestinian demonstrations in Toronto, I've seen it in G8/20 protests. Just because a given protest has a bad element does not make everyone protesting a representative of that group. I don't mind seeing those elements called out, but in Ukraine's situation these types are no more friendly with the EU than they are with Russia. Russia is far more friendly to racism and national extremism than the EU is. and I say this as someone who is not at all supportive of the EU in general.
LeGioNoFZioN They are the government dude.. the government you support, freaking Nazi.
aaaaaaaaaaand you are officially an idiot.
Kafka Dev what a stupid thing to say. you support the government because it is the government ? does that statement in and of itself not make you want to qualify it with something ?
Sorry, but this is a clear case of an unlawful aggression against a sovereign state, whatever are the "historical" circumstances.
And America is against that?
***** Russia has occupied territories and facilities that aren't part of the agreement with Ukraine, and are outside the navy base in Sevastopol.
There are many agreements and Crimea is autonomous and mostly Russian.
Let's see a democratic vote from Crimea if they want anything to do with the anti-Russian Kiev parliament.
Frankly until they show me some evidence of "invasion", I am going to assume they were already there since they have a strong troop presence in Crimea. They also have a right to protect their "interests" just as the US does.
And FFS let's talk about how the Okinawan just love US presence on their Island.
What do you think the US would say if Russia asked it to just leave all of its military bases it has around the world?
lol
***** The coup government hasn't threatened the military base in Sevastopol, nor the people of Crimea, I want to see the evidence for that.
I don't know how America would've acted, but I would oppose a US invasion just the same. The use of military force should always be the last resort, and Russia didn't even try to settle the issues via diplomacy (and the legality of the coup is irrelevant).
Fafner888
How sure can you really be about the claims you just made?
The Kiev parliament is quite anti Russian, meaning the majority of Crimea even without Russian presence is at risk of losing their autonomous status.
Like it or not, the Russians have bases there and legal contracts with the autonomous Crimean government to keep them. If this was the US they would be "protecting their interests".
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Watching Ukraine on Fire, very interesting and alarming for us in the US….but what happened on Maydan has a lot of similarities of events with the Jan 6 events
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The fact that the EU and the US have an "interest" in the outcome in this has no bearing on whether we meddled in anything, that's just paranoid. As is attempting to paint the opposition to the former government in Ukraine as "fascist" just because they were among the protesters. At a nationalist rally, you get some weirdos and assholes.
Russia's invasion of Crimea is incredibly similar to the Ossetia conflict in Georgia. That is to say, it's a muddled issue wherein Russia is clearly an aggressor, but the ethnic divisions in the country show that the issue is complicated.
Look at the fucking turnouts in these protests! There is an obvious and real resistance to the corrupt former leader of Ukraine, elected or not. And the police violence that was used against them warranted violent uprising, clearly.
It's irritating the The Real News has about as much insight into this issue as any other MSM outlet. Instead of reporting on the issue itself, you've opted to connect dots where there are none, as if this were some kind of Cold War style intrusion into local politics, when it obviously isn't.
Here's a hint, it's about fucking _Ukraine_ and fallout from Soviet-era policies, not the United States, who basically has no interest in the outcome of this anymore than they did in Georgia.
It is so _irritating_ that every American news outlet has to find some way to insert the United States into issues that have nothing to do with it.
You're right. That's a shit expert. The real news have become a propaganda tool.
Who cares if a democratically-elected President is overthrown by the use of force? All that matters is the aesthetics of a revolution, "look at the fucking turnouts". It's such a minor point that the rule of law has been completely thrown out in the name of revolutionary expediency. The lynch mob are the new heroes of democracy and human rights, get with it Real News!
pathocrat Please, spare me the sophistry. If you have a point to make, make it. I wouldn't have bothered to write this if I wasn't interested in anyone else's feedback. It's clearly a complicated issue.
Firstly, violent revolution is as much a part of democracy as rule of law is. Even the United States was founded on that premise.
If the representatives of the people have overstepped what their people consented to, they absolutely have the right to protest. If the police start to _kill_ them, they absolutely the right to defend themselves.
And that's what happened!
When your leader is accused of absconding with tens of billions of dollars and definitely _did_ accept a bribe from the Russian government, it's hardly as simple as them being a "lynch mob."
Clearly and fucking obviously, since the man _fled_ the damn country with their money, he was corrupt as shit.
Revolutionary expediency, pah. When 100 people get gunned down by the fucking police in a single hour, it's not "expediency" to deal with that.
Keep in mind, this is _Ukraine_ we're talking about. This is not a beacon of good policy and public virtue. They are notoriously corrupt, especially the police.
So in terms of who we're supposed to believe, the evidence is pretty strongly with the protesters.
This seems especially true since the conflict seems ethnic in question, because the response in Crimea has been to occupy government buildings for fear of a crackdown on _them_.
***** I'd have to see proof of that to believe it. But considering that's Russia Today's business model in America, it wouldn't entirely surprise me.
I'm afraid, that you may not be able to see larger geo-political game at play here. The US had meddled in elections in various countries for decades, but so has Russia. I'm assuming, that you have at least read THE GRAND CHESS BOARD: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives (1997) by Zbigniew Brzezinski, former US National Security Advisor, in which US foreign policy goals, particularly in Eastern Europe, are clearly layed out. This is the virtual 'bible' of US foreign policy, aside from the neo-con think tanks, which take a far more aggressive stance. I'm also hoping, that you spend time reading foreign policy journals on a regular basis, and not just what is reported in the press. While I agree with you, that each side will use propaganda to various effect, it is undeniable that the US has a much larger geo-political interest in mind, so this is not just about the Ukraine. It is true, that not all these protestors are fascist or even hard-right wing, but unfortunately it is those factions, 10% of the protesters perhaps, who escalated the situation. It is also a fact, that hard-right national parties are gaining a sizable foothold in Western Europe, including France, Denmark, Austria, Netherlands and Germany, Please read up on it.
It is in nobody's interest, including Russia's, to escalate this thing militarily, and all this inflammatory rhetoric needs to be scaled back. Russia has legitimate security concerns, when it comes to the Ukraine, and I'm not some pro-Putin shill.
Principled approach? 'Might makes right',?
hmmm