Greetings from Oslo Norway! The reason is very simple. Ever since the 1950s, Norway has had the world's highest taxes on ICE cars. Which has meant that the cars have traditionally cost 70% more than in all normal countries. When the government in 2011 removed all taxes on EV,s and even removed the sales tax, which in Norway is 25%, the choice is simple. Buy an EV for NOK 500,000 or an ICE car for NOK 1 million. And when we live in a relatively small cities and most people have charging options at home and a moderate electricity price, the choice becomes even easier. I drive an ev myself and will newer go back.
@@Maamoore It definitively helps on our mind (yeah, Norwegian too), knowing that the electricity is almost as pure as it can be! It does also help a lot, that the charging infrastructure is quite good.Now it's getting hard to find a place without fast charging options within reach. We do read and hear about how Tesla's network is way better than the CCS1-type charging networks, and besides a few being open to non-Teslas, not all have the adapters og plugs to charge at Tesla SuC-stations. In Europe, Tesla uses CCS2 like the competitors, and at least in Norway almost everyone is open to non-Tesla vehicles. And no, regulators have started to demand card payment as an option on new charging locations, to previous lock-in rules where you had to have the right chip and contract to be able to charge at that exact station. And within 2027, if I'm correct, they have to have card payment even on old charging locations. Unfortunately, Tesla has not yet activated card payment on new locations, and especially the Norwegian EV Association have started to question Tesla on why they haven't followed the rules. There was "transition excempts" allowing already planned stations where the charging equipment had been ordered, to still open without equipment for card payment. And it's also getting noticed by the government, so how long until Tesla might start to get fines for breaking the rules, is uncertain.
Not to make this a contest on the highest car prices in world, but that would be wrong. Denmark has higher taxes on ICE cars. Similarly to Norway Denmark has cut the taxes on EVs to almost nothing resulting in the same transition towards EVs - if at a slightly lower pace.
Just returned from a vacation road trip from Germany to the Northcape. The Scandinavian countries know how to set up infrastructure for EVs. Even in the remote regions of Sweden, Finland and Norway you'll find excellent charging opportunities. Besides almost killing Rudolph and a flat tire due to a screw to much, everything went fine on the 6000 Kilometer road trip. My EV now is 10 years old and has 327TKM on the dashboard.
@mnhsty I guess the real estate ownership rate in Norway is above average, but the main reason is abundant public charging infrastructure. In other countries, smart meters and time flexible tariffs might be a good measure to match electricity demand and production while ensuring affordable pricing.
@@hermesliteratus882 who also have a conscience as national wealth is based on fossil fuels. Better than Russians and Saudi and all the other petrodictators.
Bought a used 2021'long range (358miles) AWD model 3 with 39k miles for $27k. New tires, interior perfect. Also own 2018 long range rwd purchased used in 2020. Old guy with 35 years in collision side of auto biz. Would never go back to antique fire breathing contraptions. Crazy cheap to operate. Incredibly intuitive and enjoyable to drive. Quiet fast better handling.
If a 600,000 mile battery warranty becomes mainstream, that will have a huge positive effect on sales. Being a pedestrian in Norway must be a far more pleasant experience than here in the US, where you are assaulted with foul smelling fumes from diesel vehicles especially!
@@dirkvornholt2507Given all the negative press around EV’s, I fell it would give peace of mind to those on the fence. There are so many lies around EV ownership here in the US.
EVs are still getting much better by the day, every improvement in price, range, and charging speed will only accelerate adoption. I expect 50% of new cars sales worldwide to be EVs by 2030, but if Tesla can come out with a sub-$25k car soon, it could be even sooner.
Another reason Norway has such a high EV percentage is that they have exempted EV's from lots of tax, but at the same time, they have hugely INCREASED the taxes on fossil fuelled vehicles. It's a shame the whole world isn't doing the same IMO.
A car industry consultant engineer I met on holiday told me EV range will soon reach 600-700km. It's been increasing 10% a year. Range anxiety and charger network concerns will become a thing of the past, especially when charging speeds also double and 22kw AC charging capability is normal. The rumour that excites me most about the Model Y juniper is that the LR will have a 98kW/h battery, which presuming a density not weight increase would give a model Y about 700km range. Combined with further purchase price reduction, it could be the game changer to mass adoption in more countries.
I think the consultation engineer is absolutely right! Also, as the batteries gets smaller and lighter per energy density unit, the cars both becomes lighter (and thus can travel further) and cheaper. Also, with newer battery chemistry containing less or no cobalt or other controversial ingredients, and also non-flammable, can take charging faster etc, I can’t see many reasons for using ICE anymore.
Lots of good points there, the only thing I’d quibble is the 22kw AC. Unless you’ve got a three phase domestic supply it’s a bit pointless for home charging.
Electric car sales in Australia have dipped for the second month in a row during August - despite multiple existing EV makers cutting prices across their lineup and introducing multiple new models. The latest data from the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) and Electric Vehicle Council (EVC) shows that 5,892 battery electric vehicles were sold in Australia in August - a share of just 5.9 per cent of the overall new car market.
That number does not sound correct. Austria is a small market, they sold less then a quarter million cars the whole year in 2023. This would mean about 20k cars sold monthly on average, so your number would be more like 25% of the total sales.
I hope we here in Sweden will get there sooner rather than later 😅 One (of many) benefits I have from driving an EV is that in the month of August I actually had negative fuel costs, approximately -6sek per 10km 💪
Yeah I have done 6 trips to Sweden in my 2016 leaf, probably not many more in the future since the charging infrastructure in Sweden is not CHAdeMO friendly
For the battery in an electric car to last it must have excellent battery management. This is sophisticated software that controls the battery temperature and rate of recharging. This can only be done with cars that know where you are going and can anticipate when to condition the battery for supercharging. Tesla owners nearly always use the navigation system especially on long trips while other car owners use smartphone apps that are independent from the car this means you must tell car what charger you are using so it can precondition this is not optimal.
The next is trucking. A big beer/soda company, Ringnes in Norway, are closing down their distribution. Moving it to other companies that uses electric trucks. ASKO is one of them. Electrictrisity are 8-10 times cheaper than diesel. The truck companies see that electric are cheaper. I think the switch to electric will go faster with trucking than EV's. It's just cheaper, and better.
Legacy prefers to add poorly thought out features to make their cars more expense, drive up their maintenance revenue and to just sell ice vehicles - the transition would not be happening without Tesla and the Chinese. Reducing transportation costs will add value to everyone else’s lives which is a good thing.
Please make a video about ICE stocks in the USA, Europe, and China at dealers, about 3 million units in theUSA, combined with similar numbers of Chinese ICE car that no longer can be sold in China Combine with ICE sales drop top 25 for traditional car manufacturers Thanks for your good work 👏 🎉😊
In China they more and less force people to buy EVs. For an ICE car the license alone costs thousands of dollars and if smog is bad, only half of all ICE cars are allowed to drive, while there are no restrictions at all for EVs. That transition happened with motorcycles much earlier. When I was in Shanghai in 2017 most motorcycles already were electric. Thar was seven years ago.
And Australia already has an over supply of solar, so we 'should' be in the same situation, but no.... there are still over 1 million ICE vehicles being sold here. We need to double or triple the tax on them, and use that money for huge EV subsidies. I got NO subsidies for my 2022 Model Y. 😞
@@williamreese6642 Range is not an issue. Example: I have done a 7500km journey from Melbourne to Cairns return. I have a SHORT RANGE Tesla (410km on a good day). Range is not the issue, it is broken chargers that are a bigger problem (I experienced 3 in a row in Nth Qld.).
@@williamreese6642 What are you saying... You want to go bush, and take your own solar panels with you? I suppose it could be done, they do it on caravans, so I suppose it might work on an EV.
Imo the biggest problem of electric vehicles in EU is that hey are still pretty expensive... In Norway, you have relatively high salaries and combined with the no VAT, it's easy to afford an electric car. In the rest of the EU, EVs are crazy expensive and the range vs charging availability is pretty bad. Also they will never bad EVs in the next decade, mainly because the electric charging could never supply enough electricity to satisfy the demand of everyone. So unless countries very heavily invest in more charging stations and better power production, 100% EVs are still a distant dream imo, even if it would be great.
Apparently 30-40% of there chargers are pull through. Catering to people who tow. Unlike Australia where it would be lucky to be 1% How will you convert people who tow to EV when they find out you have to unhitch to charge?
Guys, I'm not a car guy. I'm a tech guy. I get the Nokia jokes, and I get the battery jokes. What I don't get (for those that were lucky enough to live through the last of the Golden Days) is Nokia had the BEST batteries. And AFAIK those old reliable batteries that lasted well over 5 years way back when were made by? That's right! BYD 😁
Norway also doesn’t have an auto production industry. So there are the social concerns regarding job losses both in the direct auto industry as well as the support industries that filter down to the small neighborhood mechanics, the supply lines etc. So while EVs will grow in a lot of countries, there are political considerations to the rhetoric around EV vs Gas. I switch and don’t currently plan to go back, but we also still have an ICE vehicle.
Australia also has no auto production, and, we also have a free trade agreement with china, so you would expect that chinese cars (including Tesla) should be really cheap, but they aren't. Australia is also seen as a 'wealthy' country, so the chinese built cars, including Tesla's are priced to what they think they can get away with. There are no import duties, so all these cars should be maybe 10% to 20% more than in china, but NO... they are 100% or more. We are simply being ripped off (including me with my Model Y from 2022). But I guess there's nothing we can do about it.
Norway did have a car industry briefly that consisted of Buddy and Think however both are now defunct, however the government had implemented EV incentives acting to protect local industry, thus it is the opposite of what other countries have done.
Because Norway removed all taxes and VAT from EV’s it means that a Model Y performance (no options added) cost $45000 but in Denmark (neighbour to the south) where I live it cost $64000. So pretty big difference, and that is the sole reason why so many are buying EV’s in Norway.
It is not the only reason. Incentives for EV’s are not at the level it used to be. Main point is that people in Norway have accepted that EV’s in reality are the future. In addition, most people own their homes and therefore have charging options at home, and there’s a well-developed public charging infrastructure. So you would in fact have a very specific reason or special need for buying an ICE car.
1,000,000 mile warranties will be a game changer. If there is low risk it makes much more sense for a manufacturer to carry that than a customer and it will hugely drive sales and reduce concern in used sales too. Hope all manufacturers do that.
The value of EVs is primarily determined by the customers perceived value of its battery. New EVs can be sold at a high price because the battery is new and not a concern so its other features take a larger role, but for used EVs people dont want a car with 50 mile range or one where the max range drops 5 miles every month - even if it has every feature you can imagine. The incredible drop in EV price is a battery issue. Thats all. Its the battery
Let's be honest, Norway is a very wealthy country (thanks to oil and gas sales) with a pretty insignificant car market. You may just as well use Dubai as an example. Take a genuinely large car market like the UK, Tesla sales are down 14.4% for the year to date, and their share of the EV segment continues to dwindle.
You understand Tesla share has to fall as more EV makers join the market, right. It is math. 100% if your are the only 1 EV maker. How can you remain above 50% if two or more are making same number as you do? Example. Year 1: Tesla sold 10,000, equal 100% marketshare. Year 2: Tesla sold 20,000, Company B sold 10,000, equal 66.7% marketshare. Year 3. Tesla sold 40,000, Company B sold 20,000 Company C sold 10,000, Equal 57% marketshare. EV market is growing not at max saturation to worry about marketshare. It is the volume sold increase year over year that matters currently.
Norway is rich because they kept 2/3 of all the profits from their North Sea Oil. The UK kept something in low single digits. Norway has pension pots of 1/2 million dollars for every man/woman and child. The UK Government stole the pension money and relies of new tax to pay for pensions which is guaranteed to fail. Norway is competently run unlike the UK which is and has always been an utter shambles. Switching to EVs is an efficient best choice so of course Norway does it. Much as I think Elon is a dick changes to Tesla market share is not a fault with Tesla just a result of the huge increase of EV brands available. Norway is a very good example for EV adoption.
@@nguyep4 Tesla market share is dropping due to increased competition, with many brands offering a better value proposition. Can we stop pretending that Tesla is going to dominate the global car market? It's just going another car maker.
@@brendanpells912 Lol Tesla is the only one making profit on EV, the illusion that others are making money on EV is full of ignorance and somehow overturn Tesla at the same time. Look at VW, losing marketshare which has real impact as their overall volume is dropping. Reducing 500,000 in production equates to 2 factory closure. They have no viable products to sell in China as that represents 40% of their profit. Losing that market with hurt VW deeply. That is the real concern. Yet, all I hear is Tesla in trouble, while growing year over year dispite the bad economy, high interest with its car price point averaging $45k...
Tesla may be dropping but BEVs new car sales are still growing in the UK, people are just diversifying what they buy as there is more choice; over 120 BEV makes/models and a choice of over 300 trim levels. Even if you add all the UK YTD new car sales for Petrol, Diesel and hybrids (both PHEV and HEV) together their market share has shrunk by -2.6% over the year, meaning a swing of 5.2% from fossil-fuel of all types to BEVs.
If resale of my EV is bad, I just keep them longer. Why? Because I can. An electric motor chance of failure increases much slower than a combustion engine. Once a battery reaches 4 to 5 years, its degradation will flatten. My old Model S 70 only had 7% deg when I sold it after 8 years. It was at 7% for the last 3 years I owned it.
Tesla still has 8 years on battery. Or fixed km but even the km can change per model 160-260.000 km. Moreover they guaranty 70% of the capacity not 80%... Not sure which car has 1 million km and 80% guaranty?
@@orionbetelgeuse1937 Hmm I hope this battery really exists and Tesla will use it. Since I'm planning to buy an Electric car in the near future and use my solar panels to charge it... Will see.
@@williamreese6642 good luck then hope you can buy it. I'm planning to buy the Y Juniper version next year. I already have a small solar but the normal household size one will be here soon.
It is just the tip of the iceberg, the worse will come sooner rather than later, Volkswagen's CFO Arno Antlitz warned that the European carmakers had about two or three years to prepare for cut-throat competition from abroad, mainly China.
You are probably safe for another 10 yrs or so. After that you would probably have to plan like EV owner did 5-7 yrs ago (and chademo-owners to some extent do today).
You will experience 'range anxiety' just like some EV people do here in Australia, because the govt is too stupid to use some of the billions we make on exports to build chargers everywhere. 😞
@shyviking Really? I just returned from a road trip to the north cape in the holiday season and experienced no shortage of charging opportunities in any of the Scandinavian countries. Even in Germany, which is years behind, I only had to wait 5 minutes to get a stall in 220TKM and 7 years.
@@dirkvornholt2507 you misunderstood... He has an ICE (internal cumbustion engine; gas/petrol/diesel) and was joking about not finding a gas station....
Not to take away from your valid points, but in my opinion, by far the biggest contributions to the high % of EVs are huge increases in taxes for ICE cars and the fact that quite a lot of ICE cars are no longer for sale in Norway… if the consumers were able to choose freely without tax differences, EVs would still probably be dominating but maybe more like 70-80%. Norwegians in general are just like consumers everywhere else…
@kim-erlendholsen8810 Scandinavian countries have a huge sales tax on cars. EVs are exempt from this sales tax and road fees. That's a huge incentive to drive an EV. On the other hand, they have perfect EV charging infrastructure even in remote areas of Lapland and abundant cheap electric power from renewables. So you'll find quite a lot of vintage ICE cars and brand new EVs.
@@BrunoHeggli-zp3nlI hate my ICE ATV. I would have bought an EV today, however the resale value is too low to make it affordable to switch it. Whenever the repair costs too much, I will definitely replace it with an EV.
@@thorbjrnhellehaven5766Why would you hate your ICE Car?A good EV is maybe 20% better then a comparable ICE car!I still Like the BMW 435 from my brother more then hes EV!
@@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl I generally agree, but from a different perspective, flipping the question around. An EV is just a car-nothing special; you drive it like any other car. I've been driving an EV for almost a decade and have experienced many advantages that naysayers fail to appreciate. While I agree that some arguments against EVs address legitimate differences, I strongly disagree with how problematic they claim these differences are. If you insist on driving and charging exactly like you would with a combustion engine car, you’ll likely face some issues. However, if you’re open to making a few minor adjustments, most of the supposed problems are largely mitigated, and you can start to appreciate the advantages of EVs. I don't understand the obsession with sticking to the technology of the 1900s while being either misinformed or having little knowledge about the alternative they oppose. I have heard countless stories of people who were staunchly opposed to switching to EVs but, once they tried it, regretted not making the switch sooner. I fully acknowledge there are still a few valid arguments against switching to EVs, but most arguments are invalid and merely placeholders for defending their decision. The three main valid arguments are: “Unable to get convenient charging where we regularly park,” “No EV available in the segment that we need,” and “The short-term economics are too expensive.” The last point is why I haven't swapped my ATV for an electric one-I wouldn’t get much for a 15-year-old ATV, but I would have to pay a lot for a relatively new electric ATV.
@@geiomm The main Volvo models are developed by Swedish engineers. Scandinavian, or european for that matter will stop buying Volvo when Chinese is taking over the developement and design of Volvo. So that will never happen. Zeekr don t sell well in Europe, only Volvo and Polstar because if the swedish heritage.
"Resale values of new ... I mean, I know that sounds weird, but brand new (ICE) cars values have gone down." Yes, weird, because you are using the wrong word. If it is a new car being sold, it is being sold for the first time, and is not a "resale."
Just think how quickly ev developing In 3 years average ev going to be space ship comparing to current new ICE car, including AI, etc And much cheaper, following smartphones pattern Who will buy 3-5 years old ICE car to stuck with this obsolete devices for another 5-10 years? Only if resale value of current new ICE cars will be close to zero in 3 years from now
The Tesla Model Y is not an Old, Dated vehicle. It still looks amazing and is updated constantly. It has hardware 4 just like the Cybertruck and can do things no other vehicle in the world can do. Don’t forget these cars are robots on wheels. Not like your chinese cars.
The kicker is that in ten years or so, no one will own their own house never mind a car. The financial system cannot maintain an unequal and unbalanced economy where people now are living in boarding rooms and houses, renting a bedroom with five other people in the house in a shared bathroom and kitchen. When this system crashes no one will own or be able to afford to buy a house or a car. So any of this EV madness will not matter.
Why are you constantly lying or exaggerating? You don't even live in Norway, just a roo from the Outbacks. Not all but most gasoline and diesel cars on the second-hand market have gone up, while used EVs are crashing due to new models with newer technology coming out every year. People buy an EV because they get incentives and lower toll booth cost, and last but not least, all our electricity comes from our hydro dams which we sell to Europe and buy back. So our electricity is at least sustainable. We can afford it because we are the Nordic version of Saudi Arabia. The rest of the world can't sustain these enormous costs for the population, whom in the end must pay for this. Nothing is free. Nothing against EVs, but let them compete on even terms with gasoline, diesel, and hydrogen cars. Either tax them equally, 25% VAT or no VAT for all our new cars.
@shyviking You have no vast amounts of oil reserves as us because you sold all your oil fields in the Nordic Sea to us in the fifties. And you don't understand the issue, it's not about EVs' market share at all.
But China just passed 50% EV new car sales (including hybrids). And they are by no means " the Nordic version of Saudi Arabia". Denmark has also just passed 50% new car sales. "Rest of the world can't sustain these enormous cost for the population whom in the end must pay for this". Which "enormous costs"? Here in Denmark, it is not an extra cost, but less taxes paid to the state. Probably the same in countries like Sweden, Finland and Iceland. "People buy an EV because they get incentives and lower toll booth cost, nothing else." 94% of the norwegians?! Maybe, just maybe, it could also be because....well....the product is better.. 🙂
@shyviking You're not that bright, are you? Study more about social economy, GNP, national welfare programs, and communism. Speak again when you regain some brain cells.
Sam doesn't have to live in Norway to report on what is happening there. The proof is everywhere, just look at Bjorn Nyland for example, his Norwegian YT channel has been going for years, telling everyone how good it is in an EV utopia. BTW, Sam lives in Newcastle NSW, which is 100km North of Sydney, on the east coast of Australia. Nowhere even close to being in the outback. It's just another suburban area where he lives. As for all that hydro you have, we have a similar advantage with a HUGE pile of solar panels on over 4 million homes, and gazillions of panels out in the desert, soaking up all those photons. Some say we have TOO MUCH solar, but that's the electricity sellers, who aren't making as much money as they used to.
Norway is the leader. Others are following the same trajectory. (S-curve) ICE sales are dropping in the US (and most other countries). EV sales are increasing.
Norway happened to be the first to start. In 2014, the market share of EV was 6%, In 2024 Approx. 90%. According to Tony Seba's calculations, it takes 10 to 15 years from 5% to 90%. (disruption is complete) The same will happen in other countries. They just started a little later. Reduced price of EV will make it inevitable.
So, if you own an ICE vehicle in Norway, you're screwed, this is what will happen if you aren't paying attention to market changes, time waits for no one
This is so misleading. Despite having 80% market share of new vehicles, norwegians still use their ICE cars regularly 😁😁 and fuels consuption has gone up instead! This shows that EVs technology is still bad, range is so bad and charging too slow, especially at home
Why not? It's a great example of how people and society can adapt to new products very very quickly. No blackouts No hourlong charging queues No disastrous fires No stranded cars with 0% battery in winter No environmental disaster
Maybe that is the solution for the rest of the world too: huge taxes for ICE cars, huge taxes for gas and diesel and no taxes for EVs. Who is a big wealthy fanboy to use the ICEs.
I am Norwegian and I Wonder why you lie about out car market. Used Ice cars increase in price. EV value is crashing. EV is the Worst investment you can do here now
The price of used EVs has fallen a lot, but new EVs have fallen even more. If you switch from a used to a newer EV, you will lose less money than if you switch from a used ICE to a new ICE. And the prices of EVs will continue to fall.
@@beehappy7797 agree. Its inevitable. In Norway EV sales went through the roof because of massive tax subsidies. But these subsidies cost a LOT of money and was never either sustainable or ment to last. Now the government has cut away most of the subsidies and left people with EVs that suddenly are almost as expensive to run as ICE cars and even more complicated to use than regular ICE cars. In winter the EVs cause a LOT of problems in a country with snowplowing needed almost every dag, -10 to -25 C and where half the country dont see the sun between november and march. The negative sides of EVs has become very obvious, a battery is NOT a friend to rely on and electricity is expensive. People go from EVs back to second hand ICE cars, because the government has indirectly forced car-dealers to stop importing new ICE cars. So of course older cars value go up by demand. Its another mess made by politicians that try to force the World to be like they want it to be, not what it can be. It looks like the situation might change slightly in the coming years, as several car-dealers has started to take orders on new ICE cars again, so in 2025 more new ICE cars will be available to our market. In EU car producers are showing lots of new ICE modells to be available in the coming years, so the market might become more self-sustainable again. EV sales will level down, as no country can really afford the level of subsidies that is needed to make them sustainable attractive. I think that untill politicians find ways to make electricity really really cheap, EVs will need subsidies as insentiv for people to choose them over ICE and hybrids.
5.5M people live in Norway. It's not like Norway is the car-purchase capital of the world. They barely move the needle. And you can't make a good causitive argument that as Norway goes, so goes the rest of the car-buying world. Don't get me wrong: I cheer the rapid global adoption of EVs, but this content is meaningless platitudes and blather to that point.
China, the largest car market in the world, is at 51% so your comment holds no value. The point is that countries where big oil and the mass media lie, are merely slower than what is shown in Norway and China and others. Clearly rapid disruption in the industry.
Norway has huge distances and very cold winters so it should be the worst place to own an EV.....ICE fanboys have no valid response to this fact 😂 I've even seen Brits being concerned about EVs in winter even though they don't have any winter. It's pathetic tbh❤
Hi, I am not an opponent of EVs but I think you do your subscribers and your channel a huge disservice by only reporting half of the facts and the truth about the car market in Norway. You say that EV incentives play only a minor role in Norway and suggest that the main incentive is being exempt from VAT. This is simply untrue. I went to the trouble of calculating the Norwegian price of VW's most popular ICE Golf in Norway. This is the VW Golf 1.5-liter engine, 96 kW (130 PS). No supercar. On the official website for calculating the price this was the result: Tax195 317,00 + Purchase price 260 000,00 + Mva 65 000,00 = 520, 317 kroner So the initial car price is 260,000 Krone ($24,260 US) but the final price is 520,317 NOK = $48,550 US In other words the tax on ICE cars DOUBLES their price. + The Norwegian EV incentives: No purchase/import tax on EVs (1990-2022). From 2023 some purchase tax based on the cars’ weight on all new EVs. Exemption from 25% VAT on purchase (2001-2022). From 2023, Norway will implement a 25% VAT on the purchase price from 500 000 Norwegian Kroner and over No annual road tax (1996-2021). Reduced tax from 2021. Full tax from 2022. No charges on toll roads (1997- 2017). No charges on ferries (2009- 2017). Maximum 50% of the total amount on ferry fares for electric vehicles (2018) Maximum 50% of the total amount on toll roads (2018-2022). From 2023 70% Free municipal parking (1999- 2017) Access to bus lanes (2005-). New rules allow local authorities to limit the access to only include EVs that carry one or more passengers (2016-) 25% reduced company car tax (2000-2008). 50% reduced company car tax (2009-2017). Company car tax reduction reduced to 40% (2018-2021) and 20 percent from 2022. Exemption from 25% VAT on leasing (2015-) The Norwegian Parliament decided on a national goal that all new cars sold by 2025 should be zero-emission (electric or hydrogen) (2017). «Charging right» for people living in apartment buildings was established (2017-) Public procurement: From 2022 cars needs to be ZEV. From 2025 the same applies to city buses I wager that if ICE prices in Australia were DOUBLED and additional incentives were given to EVs, the EV market share in Australia would also explode. But I think that before anything like this happens there would also be explosive rioting in the streets. I look forward to your response.
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Greetings from Oslo Norway! The reason is very simple. Ever since the 1950s, Norway has had the world's highest taxes on ICE cars. Which has meant that the cars have traditionally cost 70% more than in all normal countries. When the government in 2011 removed all taxes on EV,s and even removed the sales tax, which in Norway is 25%, the choice is simple. Buy an EV for NOK 500,000 or an ICE car for NOK 1 million. And when we live in a relatively small cities and most people have charging options at home and a moderate electricity price, the choice becomes even easier. I drive an ev myself and will newer go back.
What about the fact that electricity is all hydro?
@@Maamoore It definitively helps on our mind (yeah, Norwegian too), knowing that the electricity is almost as pure as it can be!
It does also help a lot, that the charging infrastructure is quite good.Now it's getting hard to find a place without fast charging options within reach. We do read and hear about how Tesla's network is way better than the CCS1-type charging networks, and besides a few being open to non-Teslas, not all have the adapters og plugs to charge at Tesla SuC-stations.
In Europe, Tesla uses CCS2 like the competitors, and at least in Norway almost everyone is open to non-Tesla vehicles. And no, regulators have started to demand card payment as an option on new charging locations, to previous lock-in rules where you had to have the right chip and contract to be able to charge at that exact station. And within 2027, if I'm correct, they have to have card payment even on old charging locations.
Unfortunately, Tesla has not yet activated card payment on new locations, and especially the Norwegian EV Association have started to question Tesla on why they haven't followed the rules. There was "transition excempts" allowing already planned stations where the charging equipment had been ordered, to still open without equipment for card payment. And it's also getting noticed by the government, so how long until Tesla might start to get fines for breaking the rules, is uncertain.
Not to make this a contest on the highest car prices in world, but that would be wrong. Denmark has higher taxes on ICE cars. Similarly to Norway Denmark has cut the taxes on EVs to almost nothing resulting in the same transition towards EVs - if at a slightly lower pace.
@@Maamoore bout 97% hydro and a little bit wind turbines.
Just returned from a vacation road trip from Germany to the Northcape. The Scandinavian countries know how to set up infrastructure for EVs. Even in the remote regions of Sweden, Finland and Norway you'll find excellent charging opportunities. Besides almost killing Rudolph and a flat tire due to a screw to much, everything went fine on the 6000 Kilometer road trip. My EV now is 10 years old and has 327TKM on the dashboard.
To not underestimate the stupidity of other European countries!
At 94%, a lot of apartment dwellers must be buying EV’s. DC charging must be very reasonable, thanks to hydro power.
@mnhsty I guess the real estate ownership rate in Norway is above average, but the main reason is abundant public charging infrastructure. In other countries, smart meters and time flexible tariffs might be a good measure to match electricity demand and production while ensuring affordable pricing.
They are rich,thats why!
@@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl Compare it to Switzerland or Luxemburg Accounting for population density and fossile resources and then rethink your answer.
Norway 👍, no excuses, no BS.
Solid country. 👌🏼
They are a smart people.
@@hermesliteratus882 who also have a conscience as national wealth is based on fossil fuels. Better than Russians and Saudi and all the other petrodictators.
Bought a used 2021'long range (358miles) AWD model 3 with 39k miles for $27k. New tires, interior perfect. Also own 2018 long range rwd purchased used in 2020. Old guy with 35 years in collision side of auto biz. Would never go back to antique fire breathing contraptions. Crazy cheap to operate. Incredibly intuitive and enjoyable to drive. Quiet fast better handling.
If a 600,000 mile battery warranty becomes mainstream, that will have a huge positive effect on sales. Being a pedestrian in Norway must be a far more pleasant experience than here in the US, where you are assaulted with foul smelling fumes from diesel vehicles especially!
@joebullwinkle5099 600k miles? What for? My EV now has surpassed 327TKM and lasted longer than most ofmy previous ICE cars.
Also: it is noticeably less traffic-noise in the cities now compared to 10 yrs ago.
Yes, you can really feel the difference in the cities. Less pollution and noise. Actually really nice!
@@dirkvornholt2507Given all the negative press around EV’s, I fell it would give peace of mind to those on the fence. There are so many lies around EV ownership here in the US.
Outside of a few major cities there are no pedestrians in the US. They have drive through ATMs for a reason!
EVs are still getting much better by the day, every improvement in price, range, and charging speed will only accelerate adoption. I expect 50% of new cars sales worldwide to be EVs by 2030, but if Tesla can come out with a sub-$25k car soon, it could be even sooner.
Another reason Norway has such a high EV percentage is that they have exempted EV's from lots of tax, but at the same time, they have hugely INCREASED the taxes on fossil fuelled vehicles. It's a shame the whole world isn't doing the same IMO.
And Norway is a major exporter of oil and gas. Without those two income streams Norwegians would be riding bicycles.
lots of conflicts of interest at other rest of the world
@@PropanePeteThis is nonsense. The petroleum industry is very important in Norway, but it is not at that level.
A car industry consultant engineer I met on holiday told me EV range will soon reach 600-700km. It's been increasing 10% a year. Range anxiety and charger network concerns will become a thing of the past, especially when charging speeds also double and 22kw AC charging capability is normal. The rumour that excites me most about the Model Y juniper is that the LR will have a 98kW/h battery, which presuming a density not weight increase would give a model Y about 700km range. Combined with further purchase price reduction, it could be the game changer to mass adoption in more countries.
I think the consultation engineer is absolutely right! Also, as the batteries gets smaller and lighter per energy density unit, the cars both becomes lighter (and thus can travel further) and cheaper. Also, with newer battery chemistry containing less or no cobalt or other controversial ingredients, and also non-flammable, can take charging faster etc, I can’t see many reasons for using ICE anymore.
Lots of good points there, the only thing I’d quibble is the 22kw AC. Unless you’ve got a three phase domestic supply it’s a bit pointless for home charging.
Can we agree... we as in car manufactures are maybe making to many cars for demand.. and EVs are the only cars we should be making right now..
Electric car sales in Australia have dipped for the second month in a row during August - despite multiple existing EV makers cutting prices across their lineup and introducing multiple new models.
The latest data from the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) and Electric Vehicle Council (EVC) shows that 5,892 battery electric vehicles were sold in Australia in August - a share of just 5.9 per cent of the overall new car market.
It will be 10 fold in 4 years just like everywhere else
That number does not sound correct. Austria is a small market, they sold less then a quarter million cars the whole year in 2023. This would mean about 20k cars sold monthly on average, so your number would be more like 25% of the total sales.
@@antandros69 Australia !
I hope we here in Sweden will get there sooner rather than later 😅
One (of many) benefits I have from driving an EV is that in the month of August I actually had negative fuel costs, approximately -6sek per 10km 💪
Making Transport cheap is a bad thing!
Yeah I have done 6 trips to Sweden in my 2016 leaf, probably not many more in the future since the charging infrastructure in Sweden is not CHAdeMO friendly
For the battery in an electric car to last it must have excellent battery management. This is sophisticated software that controls the battery temperature and rate of recharging. This can only be done with cars that know where you are going and can anticipate when to condition the battery for supercharging.
Tesla owners nearly always use the navigation system especially on long trips while other car owners use smartphone apps that are independent from the car this means you must tell car what charger you are using so it can precondition this is not optimal.
The next is trucking. A big beer/soda company, Ringnes in Norway, are closing down their distribution. Moving it to other companies that uses electric trucks.
ASKO is one of them.
Electrictrisity are 8-10 times cheaper than diesel.
The truck companies see that electric are cheaper.
I think the switch to electric will go faster with trucking than EV's.
It's just cheaper, and better.
Can you do a video on how many petrol stations are Norway and how many are closing down or changing into charging stations.
It's my my buddy, Viking Sam Evans.
Legacy prefers to add poorly thought out features to make their cars more expense, drive up their maintenance revenue and to just sell ice vehicles - the transition would not be happening without Tesla and the Chinese. Reducing transportation costs will add value to everyone else’s lives which is a good thing.
@@at3941 ... like animated blinkers. Can't live without animated blinkers ;-)
Please make a video about ICE stocks in the USA, Europe, and China at dealers, about 3 million units in theUSA, combined with similar numbers of Chinese ICE car that no longer can be sold in China
Combine with ICE sales drop top 25 for traditional car manufacturers
Thanks for your good work 👏 🎉😊
In China they more and less force people to buy EVs. For an ICE car the license alone costs thousands of dollars and if smog is bad, only half of all ICE cars are allowed to drive, while there are no restrictions at all for EVs.
That transition happened with motorcycles much earlier. When I was in Shanghai in 2017 most motorcycles already were electric. Thar was seven years ago.
I wonder what other single car model ever had a 20% market share? Can't be many models that managed to do that.
The Model T hit 50% in the early 1920’s.
@@mnhsty not much competition in those days.
@@TerryHickey-xt4mf Surely you jest.
@@mnhsty Yeah I can imagine that. But later, the Beetle in Germany perhaps? Morris Marina in the UK? (no just kidding 😂)
Norway has inexpensive hydro power. This is ideal for using EVs.
And Australia already has an over supply of solar, so we 'should' be in the same situation, but no.... there are still over 1 million ICE vehicles being sold here. We need to double or triple the tax on them, and use that money for huge EV subsidies. I got NO subsidies for my 2022 Model Y. 😞
@greghudson9717 range is the issue in the USA and Australia, but that is about to change
@@williamreese6642 Range is not an issue. Example: I have done a 7500km journey from Melbourne to Cairns return. I have a SHORT RANGE Tesla (410km on a good day). Range is not the issue, it is broken chargers that are a bigger problem (I experienced 3 in a row in Nth Qld.).
@greghudson9717 is not an issue for you ,but it is for me.i want to charge almost always from home , using solar.
@@williamreese6642 What are you saying... You want to go bush, and take your own solar panels with you? I suppose it could be done, they do it on caravans, so I suppose it might work on an EV.
Imo the biggest problem of electric vehicles in EU is that hey are still pretty expensive... In Norway, you have relatively high salaries and combined with the no VAT, it's easy to afford an electric car. In the rest of the EU, EVs are crazy expensive and the range vs charging availability is pretty bad. Also they will never bad EVs in the next decade, mainly because the electric charging could never supply enough electricity to satisfy the demand of everyone. So unless countries very heavily invest in more charging stations and better power production, 100% EVs are still a distant dream imo, even if it would be great.
Apparently 30-40% of there chargers are pull through. Catering to people who tow. Unlike Australia where it would be lucky to be 1% How will you convert people who tow to EV when they find out you have to unhitch to charge?
Cheers Sam
Guys, I'm not a car guy. I'm a tech guy.
I get the Nokia jokes, and I get the battery jokes.
What I don't get (for those that were lucky enough to live through the last of the Golden Days) is Nokia had the BEST batteries.
And AFAIK those old reliable batteries that lasted well over 5 years way back when were made by?
That's right! BYD 😁
Norway also doesn’t have an auto production industry. So there are the social concerns regarding job losses both in the direct auto industry as well as the support industries that filter down to the small neighborhood mechanics, the supply lines etc. So while EVs will grow in a lot of countries, there are political considerations to the rhetoric around EV vs Gas. I switch and don’t currently plan to go back, but we also still have an ICE vehicle.
Australia also has no auto production, and, we also have a free trade agreement with china, so you would expect that chinese cars (including Tesla) should be really cheap, but they aren't. Australia is also seen as a 'wealthy' country, so the chinese built cars, including Tesla's are priced to what they think they can get away with. There are no import duties, so all these cars should be maybe 10% to 20% more than in china, but NO... they are 100% or more. We are simply being ripped off (including me with my Model Y from 2022). But I guess there's nothing we can do about it.
Norway did have a car industry briefly that consisted of Buddy and Think however both are now defunct, however the government had implemented EV incentives acting to protect local industry, thus it is the opposite of what other countries have done.
Because Norway removed all taxes and VAT from EV’s it means that a Model Y performance (no options added) cost $45000 but in Denmark (neighbour to the south) where I live it cost $64000. So pretty big difference, and that is the sole reason why so many are buying EV’s in Norway.
It is not the only reason. Incentives for EV’s are not at the level it used to be. Main point is that people in Norway have accepted that EV’s in reality are the future. In addition, most people own their homes and therefore have charging options at home, and there’s a well-developed public charging infrastructure. So you would in fact have a very specific reason or special need for buying an ICE car.
The resale value of ICE is hitting its _gross vehicle weight._ so you might as well sell the equivalent weight in _pig iron._
I'm from Norway and EV's least attractive part is that they lose about 80% of their value in 5 years
We will see more of this as people start to prefer EV's.
You are the man sound.
1,000,000 mile warranties will be a game changer. If there is low risk it makes much more sense for a manufacturer to carry that than a customer and it will hugely drive sales and reduce concern in used sales too. Hope all manufacturers do that.
Do any ICE cars have 1000000km warranty? That would way beyond the life of the vehicle!
You don’t hear about electric car fires in Norway, and 90% of new car sales there are EVs.
The value of EVs is primarily determined by the customers perceived value of its battery. New EVs can be sold at a high price because the battery is new and not a concern so its other features take a larger role, but for used EVs people dont want a car with 50 mile range or one where the max range drops 5 miles every month - even if it has every feature you can imagine.
The incredible drop in EV price is a battery issue. Thats all. Its the battery
Let's be honest, Norway is a very wealthy country (thanks to oil and gas sales) with a pretty insignificant car market. You may just as well use Dubai as an example. Take a genuinely large car market like the UK, Tesla sales are down 14.4% for the year to date, and their share of the EV segment continues to dwindle.
You understand Tesla share has to fall as more EV makers join the market, right. It is math. 100% if your are the only 1 EV maker. How can you remain above 50% if two or more are making same number as you do?
Example.
Year 1: Tesla sold 10,000, equal 100% marketshare.
Year 2: Tesla sold 20,000, Company B sold 10,000, equal 66.7% marketshare.
Year 3. Tesla sold 40,000,
Company B sold 20,000
Company C sold 10,000,
Equal 57% marketshare.
EV market is growing not at max saturation to worry about marketshare. It is the volume sold increase year over year that matters currently.
Norway is rich because they kept 2/3 of all the profits from their North Sea Oil. The UK kept something in low single digits. Norway has pension pots of 1/2 million dollars for every man/woman and child. The UK Government stole the pension money and relies of new tax to pay for pensions which is guaranteed to fail. Norway is competently run unlike the UK which is and has always been an utter shambles. Switching to EVs is an efficient best choice so of course Norway does it. Much as I think Elon is a dick changes to Tesla market share is not a fault with Tesla just a result of the huge increase of EV brands available. Norway is a very good example for EV adoption.
@@nguyep4 Tesla market share is dropping due to increased competition, with many brands offering a better value proposition. Can we stop pretending that Tesla is going to dominate the global car market? It's just going another car maker.
@@brendanpells912 Lol Tesla is the only one making profit on EV, the illusion that others are making money on EV is full of ignorance and somehow overturn Tesla at the same time. Look at VW, losing marketshare which has real impact as their overall volume is dropping. Reducing 500,000 in production equates to 2 factory closure. They have no viable products to sell in China as that represents 40% of their profit. Losing that market with hurt VW deeply. That is the real concern. Yet, all I hear is Tesla in trouble, while growing year over year dispite the bad economy, high interest with its car price point averaging $45k...
Tesla may be dropping but BEVs new car sales are still growing in the UK, people are just diversifying what they buy as there is more choice; over 120 BEV makes/models and a choice of over 300 trim levels. Even if you add all the UK YTD new car sales for Petrol, Diesel and hybrids (both PHEV and HEV) together their market share has shrunk by -2.6% over the year, meaning a swing of 5.2% from fossil-fuel of all types to BEVs.
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If resale of my EV is bad, I just keep them longer. Why? Because I can. An electric motor chance of failure increases much slower than a combustion engine. Once a battery reaches 4 to 5 years, its degradation will flatten. My old Model S 70 only had 7% deg when I sold it after 8 years. It was at 7% for the last 3 years I owned it.
Tesla still has 8 years on battery. Or fixed km but even the km can change per model 160-260.000 km. Moreover they guaranty 70% of the capacity not 80%... Not sure which car has 1 million km and 80% guaranty?
@@orionbetelgeuse1937 Hmm I hope this battery really exists and Tesla will use it. Since I'm planning to buy an Electric car in the near future and use my solar panels to charge it... Will see.
That's my dream, buying an electric car and charging with solar.i own a small farm
@@williamreese6642 good luck then hope you can buy it. I'm planning to buy the Y Juniper version next year. I already have a small solar but the normal household size one will be here soon.
fuel price has doubled in the past 10 years in Norway use to be kr14/l now its kr25/l
I guess that explains the desire for EV's
It is just the tip of the iceberg, the worse will come sooner rather than later, Volkswagen's CFO Arno Antlitz warned that the European carmakers had about two or three years to prepare for cut-throat competition from abroad, mainly China.
Please see Kris Rifa who blogs in Norway who recently blogged on this. He says it was incentives.
Was.
Yes...already getting nervous about where I (danish) can refill my ICE car when going on holiday in Norway.
You are probably safe for another 10 yrs or so. After that you would probably have to plan like EV owner did 5-7 yrs ago (and chademo-owners to some extent do today).
You will experience 'range anxiety' just like some EV people do here in Australia, because the govt is too stupid to use some of the billions we make on exports to build chargers everywhere. 😞
@@greghudson9717 Buy more Teslas and Elon will fix it. 🙃
@shyviking Really? I just returned from a road trip to the north cape in the holiday season and experienced no shortage of charging opportunities in any of the Scandinavian countries. Even in Germany, which is years behind, I only had to wait 5 minutes to get a stall in 220TKM and 7 years.
@@dirkvornholt2507 you misunderstood... He has an ICE (internal cumbustion engine; gas/petrol/diesel) and was joking about not finding a gas station....
The problem is how and from where are we going to produce cheap energy? Is just an expensive golf car.
Not to take away from your valid points, but in my opinion, by far the biggest contributions to the high % of EVs are huge increases in taxes for ICE cars and the fact that quite a lot of ICE cars are no longer for sale in Norway… if the consumers were able to choose freely without tax differences, EVs would still probably be dominating but maybe more like 70-80%. Norwegians in general are just like consumers everywhere else…
@kim-erlendholsen8810 Scandinavian countries have a huge sales tax on cars. EVs are exempt from this sales tax and road fees. That's a huge incentive to drive an EV. On the other hand, they have perfect EV charging infrastructure even in remote areas of Lapland and abundant cheap electric power from renewables. So you'll find quite a lot of vintage ICE cars and brand new EVs.
In America, the infrastructure still isn't here.
Depends on where you live.
Norway has very cheap electricity and expensive diesels petrol .
I have been getting huge amounts of Japanese gas car ads, lately, on UA-cam. Instead of mostly Toyota and GM.
Amazing!
Another good video Viking.
Its compleat bullshit!
@@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl Calm down Bruno.
Glad you enjoyed it
I started to hate every single combustion motor car passing in front of my home.
Why?That Sounds crazy!
@@BrunoHeggli-zp3nlI hate my ICE ATV. I would have bought an EV today, however the resale value is too low to make it affordable to switch it.
Whenever the repair costs too much, I will definitely replace it with an EV.
@@thorbjrnhellehaven5766Why would you hate your ICE Car?A good EV is maybe 20% better then a comparable ICE car!I still Like the BMW 435 from my brother more then hes EV!
@@thorbjrnhellehaven5766EVs are OK,will maybe buy one too!Just dont understand the crazy obsession with EVs!Its not realy something Special!
@@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl I generally agree, but from a different perspective, flipping the question around.
An EV is just a car-nothing special; you drive it like any other car.
I've been driving an EV for almost a decade and have experienced many advantages that naysayers fail to appreciate. While I agree that some arguments against EVs address legitimate differences, I strongly disagree with how problematic they claim these differences are. If you insist on driving and charging exactly like you would with a combustion engine car, you’ll likely face some issues. However, if you’re open to making a few minor adjustments, most of the supposed problems are largely mitigated, and you can start to appreciate the advantages of EVs.
I don't understand the obsession with sticking to the technology of the 1900s while being either misinformed or having little knowledge about the alternative they oppose. I have heard countless stories of people who were staunchly opposed to switching to EVs but, once they tried it, regretted not making the switch sooner.
I fully acknowledge there are still a few valid arguments against switching to EVs, but most arguments are invalid and merely placeholders for defending their decision. The three main valid arguments are: “Unable to get convenient charging where we regularly park,” “No EV available in the segment that we need,” and “The short-term economics are too expensive.” The last point is why I haven't swapped my ATV for an electric one-I wouldn’t get much for a 15-year-old ATV, but I would have to pay a lot for a relatively new electric ATV.
Hello bro
there was only 45 new ICE vehicles sold in Norway this year so far
They weren't even new. They had been sitting at the dealers for years.
VW Group is leading the market share in Norway, Tesla in second place.
And Volvo sells not because it s Chinese but because it s swedish.....
Volvo is Chinese, every sold Volvo, Polestar, Zeekr the profit goes straight to China.(Geely)
They better be!
If Norwegians can't afford a VW, almost no other country can!
😃
No they are not, Tesla is nr 1 in Norway.
2024
Tesla 14.798
VW 10.743
@@beehappy7797 I said "VW Group" not VW. Like there is GM there is VW Group. like Stellantis.
@@geiomm The main Volvo models are developed by Swedish engineers. Scandinavian, or european for that matter will stop buying Volvo when Chinese is taking over the developement and design of Volvo. So that will never happen.
Zeekr don t sell well in Europe, only Volvo and Polstar because if the swedish heritage.
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Hi Sam
"Resale values of new ... I mean, I know that sounds weird, but brand new (ICE) cars values have gone down."
Yes, weird, because you are using the wrong word. If it is a new car being sold, it is being sold for the first time, and is not a "resale."
Just think how quickly ev developing
In 3 years average ev going to be space ship comparing to current new ICE car, including AI, etc
And much cheaper, following smartphones pattern
Who will buy 3-5 years old ICE car to stuck with this obsolete devices for another 5-10 years? Only if resale value of current new ICE cars will be close to zero in 3 years from now
Norway, the most deluded country on Earth.
If only Tony Seba could have predicted this and you repeat his comments.
The Tesla Model Y is not an Old, Dated vehicle. It still looks amazing and is updated constantly. It has hardware 4 just like the Cybertruck and can do things no other vehicle in the world can do. Don’t forget these cars are robots on wheels. Not like your chinese cars.
Norway... again.
nokia moment is coming
Nio is the best of the best Blue sky coming Mr Viking
Þeir fá betra loft og minni krabba
The kicker is that in ten years or so, no one will own their own house never mind a car. The financial system cannot maintain an unequal and unbalanced economy where people now are living in boarding rooms and houses, renting a bedroom with five other people in the house in a shared bathroom and kitchen.
When this system crashes no one will own or be able to afford to buy a house or a car. So any of this EV madness will not matter.
Why are you constantly lying or exaggerating? You don't even live in Norway, just a roo from the Outbacks. Not all but most gasoline and diesel cars on the second-hand market have gone up, while used EVs are crashing due to new models with newer technology coming out every year. People buy an EV because they get incentives and lower toll booth cost, and last but not least, all our electricity comes from our hydro dams which we sell to Europe and buy back. So our electricity is at least sustainable. We can afford it because we are the Nordic version of Saudi Arabia. The rest of the world can't sustain these enormous costs for the population, whom in the end must pay for this. Nothing is free. Nothing against EVs, but let them compete on even terms with gasoline, diesel, and hydrogen cars. Either tax them equally, 25% VAT or no VAT for all our new cars.
@shyviking You have no vast amounts of oil reserves as us because you sold all your oil fields in the Nordic Sea to us in the fifties. And you don't understand the issue, it's not about EVs' market share at all.
But China just passed 50% EV new car sales (including hybrids). And they are by no means " the Nordic version of Saudi Arabia".
Denmark has also just passed 50% new car sales.
"Rest of the world can't sustain these enormous cost for the population whom in the end must pay for this".
Which "enormous costs"?
Here in Denmark, it is not an extra cost, but less taxes paid to the state. Probably the same in countries like Sweden, Finland and Iceland.
"People buy an EV because they get incentives and lower toll booth cost, nothing else."
94% of the norwegians?!
Maybe, just maybe, it could also be because....well....the product is better.. 🙂
@shyviking You're not that bright, are you? Study more about social economy, GNP, national welfare programs, and communism. Speak again when you regain some brain cells.
Sam doesn't have to live in Norway to report on what is happening there. The proof is everywhere, just look at Bjorn Nyland for example, his Norwegian YT channel has been going for years, telling everyone how good it is in an EV utopia. BTW, Sam lives in Newcastle NSW, which is 100km North of Sydney, on the east coast of Australia. Nowhere even close to being in the outback. It's just another suburban area where he lives. As for all that hydro you have, we have a similar advantage with a HUGE pile of solar panels on over 4 million homes, and gazillions of panels out in the desert, soaking up all those photons. Some say we have TOO MUCH solar, but that's the electricity sellers, who aren't making as much money as they used to.
Sam! "Norway leading..." Your Biased 🤣
Wrong. No bias, it's just a fact.
Norway is an exception. Not the rule.
Norway is the leader. Others are following the same trajectory. (S-curve)
ICE sales are dropping in the US (and most other countries). EV sales are increasing.
Norway is smaller than the biggest U.S. city. Let them have at it and EVs gas cars are heavily taxed there making them less affordable
Sweden is not far behind, so it Denmark, other European countries have seen pickup in EV sales as well.
@@JDMSwervo2001 Correct, and that's the way it should be. Tax the shit out of the tailpipe polluters...
Norway happened to be the first to start.
In 2014, the market share of EV was 6%,
In 2024 Approx. 90%.
According to Tony Seba's calculations, it takes 10 to 15 years from 5% to 90%. (disruption is complete)
The same will happen in other countries. They just started a little later. Reduced price of EV will make it inevitable.
So, if you own an ICE vehicle in Norway, you're screwed, this is what will happen if you aren't paying attention to market changes, time waits for no one
This is so misleading. Despite having 80% market share of new vehicles, norwegians still use their ICE cars regularly 😁😁 and fuels consuption has gone up instead! This shows that EVs technology is still bad, range is so bad and charging too slow, especially at home
No, fuel consumption for road traffic declined with 7,2 % the last 12 months, and the decline has been going on for years. Source: ssb.no
Norway has a huge tax on fossil cars. None at EV’s. You just can’t use Norway as a yardstick for the rest of the World .
Pollution and global warming are part of the story, but costs are the largest part.
Why not?
It's a great example of how people and society can adapt to new products very very quickly.
No blackouts
No hourlong charging queues
No disastrous fires
No stranded cars with 0% battery in winter
No environmental disaster
Maybe that is the solution for the rest of the world too: huge taxes for ICE cars, huge taxes for gas and diesel and no taxes for EVs. Who is a big wealthy fanboy to use the ICEs.
The rest of the world should use Norway's model to encourage people to adopt EVs .
It's a wonderful thing to see
What subsidies does Norway give for Oil and Gas exploration
Norway is irrelevant globally…expect for it’s oil production😉
Norway irrelevant? We are saving the World! 😜
7:04 I do not believe that crap
Sam doesn't say crap!!
@@hardi.howdy.983 Sam is the Man!!! or the Viking.
Don't believe it. 94% is wrong, the actual figure is 94.3%.
EU ban the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in 2035.
Norway ban sales of new petrol or diesel cars by 2025.
I take it your audience is not in USA Just blowing smoke on all your points here. Really tired of the propaganda u spew on ev love
I am Norwegian and I Wonder why you lie about out car market. Used Ice cars increase in price. EV value is crashing. EV is the Worst investment you can do here now
Bullshit. I bet you work for that Norwegian Fossil Fuel company ? (I forget the name)
The price of used EVs has fallen a lot, but new EVs have fallen even more. If you switch from a used to a newer EV, you will lose less money than if you switch from a used ICE to a new ICE. And the prices of EVs will continue to fall.
@@beehappy7797 agree. Its inevitable. In Norway EV sales went through the roof because of massive tax subsidies. But these subsidies cost a LOT of money and was never either sustainable or ment to last. Now the government has cut away most of the subsidies and left people with EVs that suddenly are almost as expensive to run as ICE cars and even more complicated to use than regular ICE cars. In winter the EVs cause a LOT of problems in a country with snowplowing needed almost every dag, -10 to -25 C and where half the country dont see the sun between november and march. The negative sides of EVs has become very obvious, a battery is NOT a friend to rely on and electricity is expensive. People go from EVs back to second hand ICE cars, because the government has indirectly forced car-dealers to stop importing new ICE cars. So of course older cars value go up by demand. Its another mess made by politicians that try to force the World to be like they want it to be, not what it can be. It looks like the situation might change slightly in the coming years, as several car-dealers has started to take orders on new ICE cars again, so in 2025 more new ICE cars will be available to our market. In EU car producers are showing lots of new ICE modells to be available in the coming years, so the market might become more self-sustainable again. EV sales will level down, as no country can really afford the level of subsidies that is needed to make them sustainable attractive. I think that untill politicians find ways to make electricity really really cheap, EVs will need subsidies as insentiv for people to choose them over ICE and hybrids.
@@bjrnottesen5052 I drive an EV in Northen Norway. Nothing of what you say is true.
5.5M people live in Norway. It's not like Norway is the car-purchase capital of the world. They barely move the needle. And you can't make a good causitive argument that as Norway goes, so goes the rest of the car-buying world. Don't get me wrong: I cheer the rapid global adoption of EVs, but this content is meaningless platitudes and blather to that point.
look no further than china and its ev market share development and your argument goes out of the window!
China, the largest car market in the world, is at 51% so your comment holds no value. The point is that countries where big oil and the mass media lie, are merely slower than what is shown in Norway and China and others. Clearly
rapid disruption in the industry.
Norway has huge distances and very cold winters so it should be the worst place to own an EV.....ICE fanboys have no valid response to this fact 😂
I've even seen Brits being concerned about EVs in winter even though they don't have any winter. It's pathetic tbh❤
@@douglukinuk2682 oil is big in norway and norway’s oil is the financial source of its ability to finance the ev transition!
If the batteries get as good as you say I wonder if in the future you would keep your battery and just put on a whole new restyled body.
Hi, I am not an opponent of EVs but I think you do your subscribers and your channel a huge disservice by only reporting half of the facts and the truth about the car market in Norway. You say that EV incentives play only a minor role in Norway and suggest that the main incentive is being exempt from VAT. This is simply untrue. I went to the trouble of calculating the Norwegian price of VW's most popular ICE Golf in Norway. This is the VW Golf 1.5-liter engine, 96 kW (130 PS). No supercar. On the official website for calculating the price this was the result:
Tax195 317,00
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Purchase price
260 000,00
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Mva
65 000,00
= 520, 317 kroner
So the initial car price is 260,000 Krone ($24,260 US) but the final price is 520,317 NOK = $48,550 US
In other words the tax on ICE cars DOUBLES their price.
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The Norwegian EV incentives:
No purchase/import tax on EVs (1990-2022). From 2023 some purchase tax based on the cars’ weight on all new EVs.
Exemption from 25% VAT on purchase (2001-2022). From 2023, Norway will implement a 25% VAT on the purchase price from 500 000 Norwegian Kroner and over
No annual road tax (1996-2021). Reduced tax from 2021. Full tax from 2022.
No charges on toll roads (1997- 2017).
No charges on ferries (2009- 2017).
Maximum 50% of the total amount on ferry fares for electric vehicles (2018)
Maximum 50% of the total amount on toll roads (2018-2022). From 2023 70%
Free municipal parking (1999- 2017)
Access to bus lanes (2005-). New rules allow local authorities to limit the access to only include EVs that carry one or more passengers (2016-)
25% reduced company car tax (2000-2008). 50% reduced company car tax (2009-2017). Company car tax reduction reduced to 40% (2018-2021) and 20 percent from 2022.
Exemption from 25% VAT on leasing (2015-)
The Norwegian Parliament decided on a national goal that all new cars sold by 2025 should be zero-emission (electric or hydrogen) (2017).
«Charging right» for people living in apartment buildings was established (2017-)
Public procurement: From 2022 cars needs to be ZEV. From 2025 the same applies to city buses
I wager that if ICE prices in Australia were DOUBLED and additional incentives were given to EVs, the EV market share in Australia would also explode. But I think that before anything like this happens there would also be explosive rioting in the streets.
I look forward to your response.