The prettiest "Ugly Vase" I've seen for a while Tom, nice project, and well presented mate. I love turning Ash, especially the old stuff, as the figuring is quite amazing, and it's a joy to turn, and takes a good finish. Cheers Mike
Thanks Mike. Most of our firewood each year is ash, so I always have something lying around. I owe you thanks for inspiring my tennis ball solution! Cheers Tom
Hi Lee Thanks for commenting. Try a simple vessel to get to know your tools first would be my advice. This is only my second true 'hollow form', Check out video #13 (if you haven't already seen it) for my first... Cheers Tom
Beauty is i. The eye if the beholder and I like it. Not everything has to be functional, somethings can just be art pieces. I could turn a log into a stick and the girls I work with would still love the finished project because it was handmade. Love the grain of the ash as well. Looking forward to more projects. Thom in San Diego, CA
Hi Thom, Thanks for commenting. I don't think we have to turn beautiful things all the time, but I don't think the proportions are quite right on this piece. It doesn't detract from my enjoyment in both turning the piece and making the video though. Cheers Tom
Hi Fred Perhaps it looks better on the video ;-) I don't think it's hideous, but it's far from beautiful. It's a good starting point for future vessels! Cheers Tom
Good idea with the tennis ball, I knew if I waited long enough I would fine a use for them (my tennis is crap). As said below it is a pretty vase, and I enjoyed watching you make it.
+John Fithian-Franks Now come on John, it's not a pretty vase, it's an abomination! My point with this video is really to show that I am human and can turn a bad piece and am comfortable enough to show this to the world ;-) Too many 'on-line' turners only show the good bits, and 'cut' the rest. Many many thanks for watching ad commenting and I'm glad you now have a use for the tennis balls ;-) Tom
I came very close to both of those options Tony (got your name right this time...). It was my first proper vase (other than a little bud vase) and hopefully every one from now on will be an improvement on this one! Cheers Tom
+Richard Brown Thanks Richard. I was just explaining to another chap that this piece really represents me being happy to show that I can make a bugger of things sometimes ;-) and that I am an honest turner. Many would hide pieces like this from the likes of UA-cam as they feel it shows them in a bad light, they only want the best to be shown. Thanks for watching and commenting! Tom
+Tom Stratton Hi Tom, yes it only wobbles with a blank on, the chuck seems to run true on its own. I use a worm screw and I have faced off the blank side and the face, and it still wobbles. My lathe has 5 speeds with no readout, I have been running it on the middle speed, the size of the blank is 260mm and I am not sure how to recentre because I have drilled the hole. I am a new turner and thanks for taking your time to help me.
Hi Richard When a blank is out of balance (either because it is not properly centred or just because the particular piece is heavier in one area than other) it is wise to reduce the lathe speed to a point where the wobble doesn't occur. This is easier on a variable speed lathe than a pulley one. Your 5 speeds equate to 425, 625, 925, 1360 and 2000 rpm. Your middle speed of 925 could be dangerously fast in these circumstances. Try the slower speeds to see if the wobble reduces, or even stops. Slowly turn away the waste until you are able to increase the speed and gain a smoother cut. Don't try to remove too much wood at once, it isn't a race! Many years ago, when I was a novice, I started with small 100mm blanks. I never increased my speed above 800rpm for these until my confidence was greatly improved! Let me know how you get on. Tom
Hi Gerald. That's probably very good practice and worth doing. On this occasion it was the tool rest that did the damage (you can see it happen in the video) but I'll try to remember to protect other areas in future! Thanks for commenting. Tom
You are not wrong there! My wife has already said she wants it for pens and pencils at work because there is no chance of it falling over. Thanks for watching and commenting. Tom
Hi and thanks for watching. On my first video I used Microsoft Movie Maker. I very quickly moved on from there to Lightworks. Recently I moved to Adobe Premier Elements which, though not as good as Lightworks, has cut my editing times in half. Have you seen my last video which covers some of my filming issues and work arounds in the workshop? Cheers Tom
Beautiful video, Tom. The vase looks nice and has a beautiful grain. But I would ask the question, The Short palmrest (The did you put where you had eroded the vase), it was a flat. Have you bought that can make or were you when this lathe? Greetings from Germany.
Hallo Gunter. Vielen Dank für Ihre Kommentare und Komplimente. Die Handauflage ist ein Jet 150 mm mit einem 1" Stamm. Es wird viele Drehmaschinen passen, aber aus irgendeinem etwas der Stiellänge müssen möglicherweise abgeschnitten. Tom Hi Gunter. Thank you for your comments and compliments. The tool rest is a Jet 150mm with a 1" stem. It will fit many lathes but for some a little of the stem length may need to be cut off. Tom
Gunter Ich habe einen Fehler, ist die Handauflage nicht von Jet, ist es Robert Sorby. Siehe Link www.killinger.de/en/shpSR.php?p1=625&p2=834&page=2&cSBy=1&cSTy=0 Tom
hi tom i have a cl3 record lathe with sc4 chuck when I'm turning a bowl blank I'm getting a lot of wobble and the whole lathe rocks can you give me any ideas how I can stop this? thanks
+Richard Brown Hi Richard. First off, does everything run sweet and without rocking if you run the lathe (with the chuck on) without a blank? If it only starts wobbling and rocking when the blank is chucked up it sounds like the blank is badly centred. Either re-centre (how is it attached?) or run the lathe at a much slower speed until you have removed enough wood for the wobble to stop. How big a blank and at what speed are you running? A lot of questions there, but I'm sure we can get to the bottom of your problem... Tom
Hi Tom. I know from experience that a hollow form with a pit in it and a branch is not an easy project. If the wood is not dry enough you will experience some cracks soon. If it is your interest, you are welcome to watch my video on a similar but smaller project. ua-cam.com/video/L286S6t8OBY/v-deo.html Thanks for sharing your experience. Marc
Hi Marc, I think I've seen the video already. I was watching your channel after you subscribed, but I'll watch it again. FYI if you include a full internet address, like your link to the video, in a UA-cam comment, it will usually get thrown into spam. I tend to write 'UA-cam / Link Address' when necessary. Luckily I found this one! Thanks for commenting, Tom
You shouldn't let a small crack dictate what you do with a piece of wood...did I hear you say it's just a log? Isn't that What any piece of wood is? EMBRACE THE CRACKS, or as I call them, FEATURES.
Hi Josef You are right of course, though I did day at the beginning that I was happy to let the knot feature develop and be what it wanted to be. However the cracks / check marks on the bottom could easily have been turned away provided I looked closer earlier on. I like to embrace the features for what they are, within reason ;-) Thanks for watching and commenting, Tom
Tom Stratton Right, but you changed the whole shape of the thing when you cut off all that wood. I don't know why everyone thinks check marks are bad anyway, they are what wood does. It's what differentiates wood from a manmade product like plastic or ceramic.
I guess it comes back to how we are taught. I really enjoy to see other people's work that is raw and natural, but I was taught (back when I was in high school 35 years ago) to ensure the base of a piece had solid, stable wood so it would always stand properly and not warp. Perhaps I need to learn to be more relaxed and let things just happen! Cheers Tom
Tom Stratton I think when you are being taught formally, you're limited by your instructor's mindset. Why I like these youtube videos is because so many of them are not limited by preconceptions of how things "have to be done." Also, I wouldn't pass your instructor's scrutiny either, haha, so that's my excuse! I was taught by my dad in 1985 and I don't think his tools had ever been sharpened, plus he had no faceplates or chucks...Like you, I just started back up last year.
There are no right or wrongs in turning, though there are accepted methods. Perhaps the best turners break with convention in order to produce unique styles? Either way I'll keep plodding on and learning as I go. Good luck with your own turning. Tom
The prettiest "Ugly Vase" I've seen for a while Tom, nice project, and well presented mate. I love turning Ash, especially the old stuff, as the figuring is quite amazing, and it's a joy to turn, and takes a good finish.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks Mike. Most of our firewood each year is ash, so I always have something lying around. I owe you thanks for inspiring my tennis ball solution!
Cheers
Tom
Beautiful grain design and a nice profile. Damn good looking "ugly vase" !!
Take care, Dave
In another post, Harold described it as a spittoon shape. I don't disagree with him, but thanks for the compliments Dave!
Cheers
Tom
I think it's a great hollow form. I have not done one yet but videos like this leads me on to try. Thanks, Lee
Hi Lee
Thanks for commenting. Try a simple vessel to get to know your tools first would be my advice. This is only my second true 'hollow form', Check out video #13 (if you haven't already seen it) for my first...
Cheers
Tom
I can relate to this project being a bit "stumpy" myself. A good practice piece and ended up quite well. Nice job, my friend!
Hi Earl. As you will have seen from my videos I'm the same way myself!
Thanks for commenting
Tom
Beauty is i. The eye if the beholder and I like it. Not everything has to be functional, somethings can just be art pieces. I could turn a log into a stick and the girls I work with would still love the finished project because it was handmade. Love the grain of the ash as well. Looking forward to more projects.
Thom in San Diego, CA
Hi Thom, Thanks for commenting.
I don't think we have to turn beautiful things all the time, but I don't think the proportions are quite right on this piece. It doesn't detract from my enjoyment in both turning the piece and making the video though.
Cheers
Tom
Hello Tom. I don't see it as ugly. I rather like the profile. Thanks for sharing, Fred
Hi Fred
Perhaps it looks better on the video ;-) I don't think it's hideous, but it's far from beautiful. It's a good starting point for future vessels!
Cheers
Tom
Hello Tom, from Portsmouth Va.
I think it is a very " not" ugly vase.
Keep it up! RICH J
Hi Rich. Many thanks for watching and commenting. Greetings from Ossett, West Yorkshire, UK.
Cheers
Tom
Good idea with the tennis ball, I knew if I waited long enough I would fine a use for them (my tennis is crap). As said below it is a pretty vase, and I enjoyed watching you make it.
+John Fithian-Franks Now come on John, it's not a pretty vase, it's an abomination! My point with this video is really to show that I am human and can turn a bad piece and am comfortable enough to show this to the world ;-)
Too many 'on-line' turners only show the good bits, and 'cut' the rest.
Many many thanks for watching ad commenting and I'm glad you now have a use for the tennis balls ;-)
Tom
If that's your first vase, well done. I can't tell you how many I've either scrached at the last moment or made a funnel. ;-)
I came very close to both of those options Tony (got your name right this time...). It was my first proper vase (other than a little bud vase) and hopefully every one from now on will be an improvement on this one!
Cheers
Tom
Looks great!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Tom
Another great video, my granddaughter thinks the vase looks "cool" so do i ,
regards Mark
Hi Mark
Thank you both for the compliment!
Cheers
Tom
love your work fella
+Richard Brown Thanks Richard. I was just explaining to another chap that this piece really represents me being happy to show that I can make a bugger of things sometimes ;-) and that I am an honest turner. Many would hide pieces like this from the likes of UA-cam as they feel it shows them in a bad light, they only want the best to be shown.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Tom
+Tom Stratton Hi Tom, yes it only wobbles with a blank on, the chuck seems to run true on its own. I use a worm screw and I have faced off the blank side and the face, and it still wobbles. My lathe has 5 speeds with no readout, I have been running it on the middle speed, the size of the blank is 260mm and I am not sure how to recentre because I have drilled the hole. I am a new turner and thanks for taking your time to help me.
Hi Richard
When a blank is out of balance (either because it is not properly centred or just because the particular piece is heavier in one area than other) it is wise to reduce the lathe speed to a point where the wobble doesn't occur. This is easier on a variable speed lathe than a pulley one. Your 5 speeds equate to 425, 625, 925, 1360 and 2000 rpm. Your middle speed of 925 could be dangerously fast in these circumstances. Try the slower speeds to see if the wobble reduces, or even stops. Slowly turn away the waste until you are able to increase the speed and gain a smoother cut.
Don't try to remove too much wood at once, it isn't a race! Many years ago, when I was a novice, I started with small 100mm blanks. I never increased my speed above 800rpm for these until my confidence was greatly improved!
Let me know how you get on.
Tom
+Tom Stratton will do and thanks again you are a good egg
+Tom Stratton will do and thanks again you are a good egg
I have started placing a rubber mat on the lathe bed when parting off or buffing ... it has reduced the number of scratches and dents dramatically.
Hi Gerald. That's probably very good practice and worth doing. On this occasion it was the tool rest that did the damage (you can see it happen in the video) but I'll try to remember to protect other areas in future!
Thanks for commenting.
Tom
It might be an ugly vase but it is a really fine pencil holder.
You are not wrong there! My wife has already said she wants it for pens and pencils at work because there is no chance of it falling over.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Tom
Thanks for your video. Q. Could you tell me what video editing software you use? Thanks again
Hi and thanks for watching. On my first video I used Microsoft Movie Maker. I very quickly moved on from there to Lightworks. Recently I moved to Adobe Premier Elements which, though not as good as Lightworks, has cut my editing times in half.
Have you seen my last video which covers some of my filming issues and work arounds in the workshop?
Cheers
Tom
Beautiful video, Tom.
The vase looks nice and has a beautiful grain.
But I would ask the question, The Short palmrest (The did you put where you had eroded the vase), it was a flat. Have you bought that can make or were you when this lathe?
Greetings from Germany.
Hallo Gunter.
Vielen Dank für Ihre Kommentare und Komplimente. Die Handauflage ist ein Jet 150 mm mit einem 1" Stamm. Es wird viele Drehmaschinen passen, aber aus irgendeinem etwas der Stiellänge müssen möglicherweise abgeschnitten.
Tom
Hi Gunter. Thank you for your comments and compliments. The tool rest is a Jet 150mm with a 1" stem. It will fit many lathes but for some a little of the stem length may need to be cut off.
Tom
Thank you for your quick response
Gunter
Ich habe einen Fehler, ist die Handauflage nicht von Jet, ist es Robert Sorby. Siehe Link
www.killinger.de/en/shpSR.php?p1=625&p2=834&page=2&cSBy=1&cSTy=0
Tom
Thank you Tom. :-D
lindo trabajo las herremientas las diseñaste vos?
pablo Fraga Gracias por mirar y comentar Pablo usted!
hi tom i have a cl3 record lathe with sc4 chuck when I'm turning a bowl blank I'm getting a lot of wobble and the whole lathe rocks can you give me any ideas how I can stop this? thanks
+Richard Brown Hi Richard.
First off, does everything run sweet and without rocking if you run the lathe (with the chuck on) without a blank? If it only starts wobbling and rocking when the blank is chucked up it sounds like the blank is badly centred. Either re-centre (how is it attached?) or run the lathe at a much slower speed until you have removed enough wood for the wobble to stop. How big a blank and at what speed are you running?
A lot of questions there, but I'm sure we can get to the bottom of your problem...
Tom
Hey anytime you get to use your tools is a good thing you get to take what you learned and apply it elsewhere, nice little ugly vase
timothy mcswain Thanks Timothy. I try to share my experiences, good or bad ;-)
Hi Tom. I know from experience that a hollow form with a pit in it and a branch is not an easy project. If the wood is not dry enough you will experience some cracks soon. If it is your interest, you are welcome to watch my video on a similar but smaller project. ua-cam.com/video/L286S6t8OBY/v-deo.html
Thanks for sharing your experience. Marc
Hi Marc, I think I've seen the video already. I was watching your channel after you subscribed, but I'll watch it again. FYI if you include a full internet address, like your link to the video, in a UA-cam comment, it will usually get thrown into spam. I tend to write 'UA-cam / Link Address' when necessary. Luckily I found this one!
Thanks for commenting,
Tom
You shouldn't let a small crack dictate what you do with a piece of wood...did I hear you say it's just a log? Isn't that What any piece of wood is? EMBRACE THE CRACKS, or as I call them, FEATURES.
Hi Josef
You are right of course, though I did day at the beginning that I was happy to let the knot feature develop and be what it wanted to be. However the cracks / check marks on the bottom could easily have been turned away provided I looked closer earlier on. I like to embrace the features for what they are, within reason ;-)
Thanks for watching and commenting,
Tom
Tom Stratton Right, but you changed the whole shape of the thing when you cut off all that wood. I don't know why everyone thinks check marks are bad anyway, they are what wood does. It's what differentiates wood from a manmade product like plastic or ceramic.
I guess it comes back to how we are taught. I really enjoy to see other people's work that is raw and natural, but I was taught (back when I was in high school 35 years ago) to ensure the base of a piece had solid, stable wood so it would always stand properly and not warp.
Perhaps I need to learn to be more relaxed and let things just happen!
Cheers
Tom
Tom Stratton I think when you are being taught formally, you're limited by your instructor's mindset. Why I like these youtube videos is because so many of them are not limited by preconceptions of how things "have to be done." Also, I wouldn't pass your instructor's scrutiny either, haha, so that's my excuse! I was taught by my dad in 1985 and I don't think his tools had ever been sharpened, plus he had no faceplates or chucks...Like you, I just started back up last year.
There are no right or wrongs in turning, though there are accepted methods. Perhaps the best turners break with convention in order to produce unique styles? Either way I'll keep plodding on and learning as I go.
Good luck with your own turning.
Tom