Can Blacks Join the Mongols M.C.??
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2024
- Cinemills TV sits down with recently ousted International President of The Mongols MC, Dave Santillan, who also goes by Lil' Dave.
Lil’ Dave gives us an inside look at The Mongols MC hierarchy and club history and explains the trials and tribulations of navigating the club through RICO indictments and constant Government harassment as attempts are made to strip the club's identity by way of making it illegal to use the clubs marquee top rocker and center patch. Lil’ Dave provides an intimate look at the internal struggles for power and the recent “coupe d’etat” within the organization and highlights the deceit, betrayal and envy that comes with being the top brass in any organization. Moreover he details personal issues involving his wife and family as he comes to grips with the hard decisions involved in running and expanding a Multinational Motorcycle Club and keeping his Family nucleus together. During Lil’ Dave's reign as International Pres, his Cabinet and Brothers were able to grow the Clubs membership ranks and expand internationally through strategic methods. By being cordial and respectful to Special Agent John Ciccone(ATF) Lil’ Dave was able to finesse what could have been a very hostile relationship and kept the heat off the Club and its members as best he could. Through the years a mutual respect was earned by both men and Ciccone made it clear to Lil’ Dave that he was approaching retirement and would not be able to guarantee the next ATF agent assigned to the Mongols would be as cordial as Ciccone was. During Lil’ Dave's tenure as Int. Pres the Club's image was also dramatically improved through social media, main stream media access such as Lisa Ling's CNN special and charitable events that served local communities best interests. He clearly demonstrates that he never turned on his beloved Club Brothers nor misappropriated any of the Clubs funds. In this 2 hour special Lil’ Dave walks our audience through his personal thoughts and addresses the bogus allegations levied against him backed with receipts aka support documentation. Frustrations of not given his day in Mongol Court have driven Lil’ Dave to clear his good name on various platforms and Cinemills TV was honored he chose us as one. The thankless and high profile position as International President comes with many demands, responsibilities and burden. It’s a 3-D chess game involving Family, Law Enforcement, 1%er Politics, Court Cases, Club & Personal Business and an undertaking most people aren't built for but are the first to criticize from the sidelines. There are critics that have taken the approach “Don’t bother with me with the facts - I’ve made up mind” but the verdict is in: Lil Dave loves his Family, Club Brothers and feels proud of the legacy he left for the next generation of Mongols MC Brothers.
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Don’t be anywhere you’re not wanted!!
Amen! Go where your celebrated not tolerated
@@MeanGreene87 Words of wisdom bro... Been there, done that!!!
@@intellectualnapalm_fba : I wouldn’t be too disappointed by being refused membership in the Mongolians biker gang. Just saying.
The other big question is, can a Mongolian Person join the Mongol MC?
Chino you just opened a can of worms. Your question has now led us to several more questions. Is there a current lawsuit by the Mongolian Government for the use of Genghis Khan's effigy? Does the Mongolian government even own the likeness of Genghis Khan? Do Mongolians have to prospect? Is there a biker gang in Mongolia call the Sons of Liberty and use George Washington riding a Harley in their center patch?
@@cinemillstv Some content questions for future videos. I’d like to see how that is answered.
We are planning on bringing Lil' Dave back on. So thank you.
@@cinemillstv ha ha ha, lol. ✊️
Exactly why I laugh at guys wearing support patches for clubs they could never be apart of!
Eeeeeeeeeeeactly
Facts!
@@Tay-hl9vy : That being said, they’re still “associates”. Socialize and hang out with “the real boys”.
You have never been locked up in Cali then. In prison it’s black and brown up north and white and brown down south. Streets run off prison politics. If you do crime you’re gonna do time it’s part of the game. Your comments show this isn’t the life for you!
@@Doomzday831 so it can never go down between white and brown in the south?
That's a bs excuse. I've seen black guys from Mexican neighborhoods ride with the surenos in prison. I've seen white crips and Mexican Hells Angels. That's just their policy.
How would that work the mongols aren’t a sureno gang ? The mongols aren’t even acknowledged as a gang in prison during the south side spread …. So how would a black guy hang out with the surenos when all the Mongols hanging out with surenos
You said a whole lot of nothing. It’s not the same circumstance.
Mongols aren’t under the 13 retard
You ain’t seen the shit that you claim in your comment.
white crips...thats a new one to me
Form your own stuff, get in where you fit in, prison politics? Lmfao🤣😂
So they adhere to prison Politics on the street? Then I guess they're a prison gang, right?
The brothers get all but hurt that we want our own thing.
nah we straight trust me on that
@@antonioharris9012For real... We definitely don't need that kind of association in the first place!
We not Trippin bro we got our own clubs😂
i think angels cant admit to it for some odd reason. a black dude from sons of hell had a shoot out with the pagans in ohio or carolina cant remember which, canada had several black angels until the cops killed them. look up "hells angels windsor" memorial tab.
sons of hell got a grip back east. ua-cam.com/video/kJTZIfExVB4/v-deo.html
No doubt!
@johnarreola689they dont want yours 😅😅😅
@@solidostso8500They actually do.
This is the whole reason the first Mongols weren't aloud into the Hells Angels
not true, their founder told on the angels and they were wearing fake sgv angels vests then asked. hells angels had chicanos, what they didnt take was people who hung out with federal informants living in witness protection. chester festus green, a jewish ex hells angel started the mongols. the other story is to clean it up. if you read phill cross, george whetheren, sonny barger, george christie or any other book about the early angels you can see pictures of chicano hells angels from frisco back in the greaser era.
Your right.
Nah, mongols weren’t allowed in the H.A. Because they was Latino y’all need to stop trying to re-wright history It’s a well-known fact why the Mongols were created because the American hells Angels do not allow anybody but white men to join and it has nothing to do with prison politics, and everything to do with simple, good old fashion, American racism
Wrong!
Wrong!
There’s enough clubs for everyone..
That doesn't make sense 🤔 because there's BLACK surenos & BLACK nortenos. In prison that ride for Raza. Y'all just racist. Basically y'all just did the same thing the hells angels did 2 y'all. Not letting a person because of his race. But these the same people be listening to black music wearing black players jerseys wearing Jordans & Kobe's but don't want blacks in the club. This the same club who kicks it with 1 down & thunderguards but don't let blacks in. Come on make it make sense.
I wonder if you could be white, latino or asian and join 1 down or East Bay Dragons...
U could be white & join 1 down mc they let all races in. & Do your history on WHYYYYYYY the EASTBAY DRAGONS are all black before you talk. Rip Tobi Gene and Sonny barger.
We will do some research on the East Bay Dragons it would be cool to get a rep on the show.
And most non blacks such as whites, asians, pacific islanders, hispanics, native americans, are like that towards african americans. Who did none of these groups wrong.
Sadly so.
Yall allowing California prison politics to dictate your MC smh.
I'm a white ex con from Tx who grew up in the 70/80's bike world.....and I agree 💯 with yer statement
@@Mikeyspeakstruth : ways of the world; ways of the world
Its prison and gang politics, including the cartels, the mongols aren't going to act stupid and pretend they are supermen above the gangs, prisons and cartels. We know the mongols do a lot of criminal activities and some will end up in prison, they aren't going to say fuck all gang members, im a motorcycle member! I will do what I want.
Prison gangs always dictate the street.
lol They say “we aren’t a gang” but operate under prison law. Unreal.
Unless you ride SS 💯💯💯 BUT that's a different issue
Funny the way he said it there black it ain't gonna work 😅😅😅😅
Its a Chicano Biker Club...
So members in an international club are all required to follow prison politics from one state and that’s not a gang?
At least Lil Dave is being honest
how bout don’t go to jail just ride your shit
This is a 1%er club do you understand what that means coconut head ?😅
Nobody wants the Brothers around!
WOULD LOVE TO SEE A VIDEO OR VIDEO'S WITH DIFFRENT MC CLUBS OR MOBSTERS AND THEIR TAKE ON THE COVID LOCK DOWN'S. DID THEY PARTICIPATE / COMPLY THEMSELVES, THEIR KID'S AND FAMILIES OR OTHER BROTHER'S IN THE CLUB, WITH THE B.S. RULES SET FORTH BY THIS CURRENT AND WORSE ADMINISTRATION EVER.
Mendoza great idea, we will ask Lil Dave when he comes back around.
Thats why they created the naimans mc
I've seen black Mongols
No you haven’t
@@herschelsquirts2338 they just had a gathering in Virginia Beach. I know what I saw. Check your facts.
@@herschelsquirts2338 And they were fully patched.
I guess prison politics are different for the Chosen Few MC??
Why would you want to join them anyway? No matter what color you are! 🙀
We’re not talking about “the land of enlightenment” here. None of these guys are exactly “Rhodes Scholars” if u get my drift.
They are though - Asphalt Roads Scholars.
@@cinemillstv : Prison inmates and outlaw bikers; who I want as my role models.
So...if his point is that California prisons (self) segregate by race, white, black, asian, with Hispanic/Mexicans split up further (idr all the designations, it's not really the same in women's lockup), but he's saying since they would have to be in opposing camps, as it were, if they happen to be incarcerated in California's penal system, they could be ordered to move against each other? at the very least NOT automatically have each other's backs...?
But if that's the case, wouldn't the same problem arise if they are in different Hispanic factions, the Southsiders, or nortenos, or the white boys what if they're woods or Aryan nation, what do they do then? My ex (last 3 exes) were in and out of prison in California so I learned a bit, but have forgotten most of it...
Whites have a no hands policy on Level 4 & 3 yards. Meaning if you have problem with one your own you're going to need to get your steal wet. SS's are not allowed to bang on rival sets in Prison. County maybe put once in the CA Dept. of Corrections CDC you better peace up with your rival or get rolled off the yard.
So politics of people who have no freedom dictate what the people actually living in the outside world do?!? 😂😂😂 so sad smh if you truly loved and supported your club you would want the best brothers no matter the color.
Real men segregate by blood type… 🤪
That’s weak , so prison politics dictate who you ride with ? You know how strong a club would be if all that bull shit was set aside and Black , Brown , and white rode together? It’s would scare the government mano.
Because the feds are always looking to throw them in prison. If you have different races in the club all going to prison they have to function within different factions on the yard so it’s a conflict. I’m not sure what’s so hard to understand about this.
Yet another example of flawed idealogy limiting the over all potential greatness.
What about if your native American? They say Navajo tribe have a similar traditions to Mongolians in Siberian region
A lot of natives are in the Mongols
Facts! Most Latinos are just natives speaking Spanish!!
Sounds like an excuse for racism to me.
What does prison have to do with ledding blacks join there club it has nothing to do with prison it's not a prison mc it's a street mc. He didn't really even know what to say noticed he wiped his eye.
His point is that California prisons (self) segregate by race, white, black, asian, then Hispanic/Mexicans are split up further idr all the designations (it's not really the same in women's lockup), but he's saying since they would have to be in opposing camps, as it were, if they happen to be incarcerated in California's penal system, they could be ordered to move against each other? at the very least NOT automatically have each other's backs...
But if that's the case, wouldn't the same problem arise if they are in different Hispanic factions, the Southsiders, or nortenos, or the white boys what if they're woods or Aryan nation, what do they do then? My ex (last 3 exes) were in and out of prison in California so I learned a bit, but have forgotten most of it...
Understandable
Day to day politics. Nothing new.
I'm glad we have our own thing. We're not doing the whole DEI thing.
I'm in florida and the all black mc's always have the nicest bikes
Facts....
@@cinemillstv BS
Big stupid front wheel
Big front wheel doesn't make it nice
Whites can join the Mongols though right?
Yes they have a lot of woods.
Chosen Few has whte and black riders.. doesn't that same politics apply?
A Chosen Few Member in CA that gets in incarcerated would have to run with their own behind the walls sadly.
@cinemillstv they won't do well in prison
Thats what we here bikers aren't well liked in the CA Prison system and kind of stay to their own.
Chosen few been around since 1959 ... so they must be doing something right... smh ... knock it off 😂😂😂
@@cinemillstvWhy aren't Black Bikers liked in Cali prison?
WHAT ! there are white Mexicanos as there are black and even Chino's that are Mexicanos
But I thought in prison Asians are separated as well but you have Mongols who are asain.. make that make sense.. and you have white Mongols too don't you? They are definitely separate in prison as well
Lil' Dave was talking California Mongol Chapters. Mongols Thailand is obviously all Asian. Whites and Southern Mexicans are an alliance in CA State Prison. This is what he was discussing.
*you're
The answer is No. 😊
Ed you guys have cooler bikes anyways.
@@cinemillstv much appreciated but I don't ride man. I'm observing from the sideline but I'm aware of the rules.
Ed the rules can turn on anyone. Like any organization you have selective politickin'
@@cinemillstv I do not disagree with that statement
US is just to obsessed with race. HA have black members in Europe and mongols have high ranking black member in western Australia
Isn’t there white and Hispanic in mongols?
Yes the Mongols are primarily Latino and a few whites. Now we were just talking the California politics. There are Mongol Chapters in Thailand for example that are predominately made up of South East Asians. California has a very segregated street politic culture. The assumption if you're going to be an outlaw the odds are you will land in the California State Prison system whereby you will have to fraternize with your race or pay severe consequences.
@@cinemillstv There are more than just a few whites in the Mongols,
True do you think its 80 latino 20% white?
@@cinemillstv When you add Australia, New Zealand, and Florida, the white membership rises significantly. In the southwest they are majority Latino with a large number of white members.
So Latino & white is okay? 🤣 this answer makes zero sense it seems?
Exactly
They have an alliance in southern California
There’s black south siders just keep it real!
These taco boys no better than the woods 😂
They don't drink cool aid
What’s a “woods” reference mean? Lol
Glad I skipped this one. My brain started bleeding from watching a few clips. Not sure I’d make it through the whole thing
thats their racist reason lol how you let some fools in jail dictate what you do out on the streets. didnt they go up against the Surenos? so how do they run shit in jail
ITS CHICANO POWER
Why not though, Dave just like Doc let green lighters in their club, plus they are not a gang so why worry about prison politics right
Racist gang
go tell them that