RICH IDIOT SINKS HIS 1.45 MILLION YACHT | HAULOVER INLET BOATS | BOAT ZONE

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  • @BoatZone
    @BoatZone  Рік тому +254

    Who do you think is at fault for the sinking? Owner, captain or the tow company?

    • @joshlindemeier2434
      @joshlindemeier2434 Рік тому +343

      The salvage company was at fault! Definitely should’ve had pumps on board before and during the tow!!! Too many “salvage” companies don’t care enough about the vessels that they are recovering…it appears that the repairs would’ve been fairly minimal compared to the $1.5M value…it appears that it wasn’t immersed too deep therefore minimal damage to above the waterline components 🤦‍♂️

    • @jerrycallender9927
      @jerrycallender9927 Рік тому +148

      @@joshlindemeier2434 NO! The 'fault' lies with the idiot who anchored overnight in an area that is OFF LIMITS!
      The tow company was hired to remove the boat from an area in which the yacht should have never been!

    • @flipdawhip2573
      @flipdawhip2573 Рік тому +30

      Jim Jones the rapper?

    • @jasonvolk4146
      @jasonvolk4146 Рік тому +216

      If the fault for sinking is on the owner or captain then the salvage company has no incentive to perform competent work. Salvage is literally their one job; they made a bad situation worse.

    • @scrappyjunk8793
      @scrappyjunk8793 Рік тому +45

      @@flipdawhip2573 sounds like the jim jones that took his church to south africa then when the feds was catching up to him he made all drink the kool aid

  • @ottergreen8190
    @ottergreen8190 Рік тому +1359

    I spent years as an underwater welder and salvor and can say this salvage crew did a great job of showing the internet exactly what not to do.

    • @HarrisonHollers
      @HarrisonHollers Рік тому +9

      So the yacht is stuck in shallow waters. What should they have done? Wouldn’t tides change and offer a better opportunity to salvage? Or was there damage already?

    • @blazingstar9638
      @blazingstar9638 Рік тому

      😅😅😅

    • @blazingstar9638
      @blazingstar9638 Рік тому +6

      That’s really badass that you did that tho, respect 🫡

    • @paxwallace8324
      @paxwallace8324 Рік тому +12

      ​@@HarrisonHollerslegit question ignored

    • @FinalFront
      @FinalFront Рік тому +17

      @@HarrisonHollers I'd have grabbed my sawzall, oxy/acetylene torch, crowbar, sledgehammer, generator, and towed a small barge up there with my 18ft Cobia then went to work chopping it up & hauling it out of there piece by piece.

  • @peteredwards338
    @peteredwards338 Рік тому +495

    Magnificent level of incompetence shown by the salvage team !

    • @timrainger8908
      @timrainger8908 Рік тому +11

      Its Hawaii

    • @jedalexander8609
      @jedalexander8609 Рік тому +2

      You ever salvage dive st peter

    • @lorenmaly1637
      @lorenmaly1637 Рік тому +2

      @@jedalexander8609 Hahaha right. Monday morning quarter back over here....

    • @jedalexander8609
      @jedalexander8609 Рік тому +1

      @@lorenmaly1637 haha right dive ops in alaska are a little manlier on Monday mornings. But the Kirby Morgan 27's tend to keep the strong separated from the weak.

    • @ryancappo
      @ryancappo Рік тому +25

      For $460,000 they had better have the correct rigging that won’t snap, inflatable bags, powerful water pumps, and the right ships to pull it out to sea. And then divers to make temporary underwater repairs to stop the water from coming in.

  • @lisalisalisa7721
    @lisalisalisa7721 Рік тому +811

    This almost makes me speechless. The salvage company is just as incompetent and should now be on the financial hook to clean up the bay. This is disgusting

    • @frankfarago2825
      @frankfarago2825 Рік тому +3

      Sickos of the World, Converge on Honolulu Bay.

    • @EINechterKARL
      @EINechterKARL Рік тому +19

      Thats more a savage company.

    • @Bigdonksworkshop
      @Bigdonksworkshop Рік тому +13

      Maybe they wanted ths boat to sink for insurance purposes?

    • @AlkalineGamingHD
      @AlkalineGamingHD Рік тому +5

      Severe underside hull damage, water conditions, and 3 tugs were required to unmoor this thing from the rocks. The damaged hull is the most costly to repair, was already a right off by the insurance company, and the incredible water ingress from the damaged hull was simply not worth the effort to save it. Most people were simply glad to have the environmental hazard and eye sore removed.

    • @jamesfranko5098
      @jamesfranko5098 Рік тому

      @@AlkalineGamingHD shut up shill. Ypu probably work for these fools

  • @ancientnpc
    @ancientnpc Рік тому +116

    I have a Master V in commercial fishing in Australia. I remember when I started my studies asking a lecturer, "so what qualifications and training do you need to drive something like that big motor yacht out there (our school was on a dock). He replied "nothing you just need the money to buy it"..... and that's how stuff like this happens.

  • @davidcravens-ofarrell1565
    @davidcravens-ofarrell1565 8 місяців тому +83

    LOL, a 1.45 million boat, and they're drinking Yellowtail.....🤣🤣🤣

    • @ohioguy215
      @ohioguy215 7 місяців тому +4

      There was also a bottle of MD 20/20 on board ... real class.

    • @hepfarms9101
      @hepfarms9101 5 місяців тому +4

      I saw that bottle and laughed as I thought the same thing.

    • @DonnaWest-x5r
      @DonnaWest-x5r 4 місяці тому +3

      It was a charter boat folks. Hence the Yellow Tail. Good grief, it wasn't the "owner" drinking it. The story clearly states that it was for charter as well as being owned by a group of investors. Does anyone pay attention to anything they read before plastering the internet with their analysis of the subject matter ?

    • @ohioguy215
      @ohioguy215 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@user-ny7ec1dx2t
      On YT, none of us read the facts. We all hit the MUTE button, look at the movie or pictures, then we ad-lib. It's really fun. It's how we all express our own version of our intelligence. We don't let facts get in the way of a good comment. Sorry...

    • @hepfarms9101
      @hepfarms9101 4 місяці тому +2

      @@DonnaWest-x5r the story clearly states that the owner and his wife took it out with an uninsured captain.

  • @iamalphaomega
    @iamalphaomega Рік тому +808

    Unbelievable. The salvage crew appears to have been more incompetent than the fools who caused the accident.

    • @Jake3eee
      @Jake3eee Рік тому +7

      Any idea what they are underwater welding on the back of the boat?

    • @yachtymadness1446
      @yachtymadness1446 Рік тому +3

      Insurance.

    • @SpaceAgeOdyssey
      @SpaceAgeOdyssey Рік тому +9

      ​​@@Jake3eee cutting off the propeller they said that's why the earlier attempts failed

    • @notyouraverageyoutuber3172
      @notyouraverageyoutuber3172 Рік тому +8

      @@yachtymadness1446 insurance can’t fix a reef.

    • @wilsont1010
      @wilsont1010 Рік тому +3

      No, they did it on purpose.

  • @MikeCapeMusic
    @MikeCapeMusic Рік тому +262

    There are only two main rules when messing about in boats. All the other rules revolve around these two rules. Rule #1 is “keep the boat in the water.” Rule #2 is “keep the water out of the boat.” The owner broke the first rule and the salvage company broke the second.

    • @waitaminute-vw9hf
      @waitaminute-vw9hf Рік тому +8

      Well said.

    • @counciousstream
      @counciousstream 9 місяців тому +3

      No those are 3 and 4. The first rule is Don't Drown. Every other rule supports that one. The second is don't run into anything harder than water.

    • @uy7munir
      @uy7munir 8 місяців тому +1

      we have a genius on deck folks

    • @jmichaelbourke
      @jmichaelbourke 7 місяців тому +1

      Hey Mike, ABSOLUTELY 😂 So well put !!
      No 2nd prizes @councious.🤔

    • @El_Chompo
      @El_Chompo 10 днів тому

      I wasn't expecting to get the foundation theory of all boating today. Very nice

  • @ernsailor9041
    @ernsailor9041 Рік тому +215

    Well it's good to see experts were involved right from the start and remained in charge right through to it's sinking, well done everyone.

    • @68air
      @68air Рік тому +23

      If Joe Biden had a salvage company.

    • @bElLtOn14
      @bElLtOn14 Рік тому +3

      😊😂

    • @lighthouse7i
      @lighthouse7i Рік тому +2

      @@68air - 🤣

    • @bacongrz
      @bacongrz Рік тому +7

      @@68airbut he would say it’s Hunters company and he doesn’t know anything about it.. 😂

    • @larrybaker5316
      @larrybaker5316 Рік тому +1

      love the sarcasm

  • @CuriousBipedal
    @CuriousBipedal Рік тому +40

    The salvage company was an equal partner in causing this disaster. Trying to turn the yacht while stuck on the rocks was going to destroy the fragile hull even more. An inspection would have been warranted both before and after being freed.

  • @Bc4z
    @Bc4z Рік тому +6

    Ofc heavy damage to the keel..but I might be wrong but was it not possible to seal the leaks,or at least improve.Then use water pumps, and also use marine salvage airbags just a thought.

  • @nicomeier8098
    @nicomeier8098 Рік тому +399

    I can't believe they actually pulled it off the rocks without doing any damage repair or using big pumps to avoid it sinking....

    • @ntal5859
      @ntal5859 Рік тому +3

      But they are doing that at @8:30 are you blind?

    • @victorramsey5575
      @victorramsey5575 Рік тому +21

      The salvage crew wasnt paid for a patch and pump job AND THEN recover the yacht. Everyone should've just left it alone and rent it out as an airbnb. Major tourist attraction!!

    • @herpiegerbstick6808
      @herpiegerbstick6808 Рік тому +45

      ​@@ntal5859 can't you read? They're not repairing anything they are cutting off the prop or the rudder.

    • @nicomeier8098
      @nicomeier8098 Рік тому +24

      @@ntal5859 You really should pay more attention to the voice-over: all they did was remove the screws and rudders.
      Maybe in future you could think about your post before you post it?

    • @slit4659
      @slit4659 Рік тому

      OH it Had DAMAGE..

  • @peterpaulissen2690
    @peterpaulissen2690 Рік тому +124

    Unreal no flotation bags where used.....

  •  Рік тому +471

    The most incompetent salvage crew ever! There should have been floating devices all around the wreck, that kept it floating even if the entire bottom was gone.

    • @briancummings9122
      @briancummings9122 Рік тому +1

      It looks to me the button was on the rocks, had to be an issue

    • @cowlumbus
      @cowlumbus Рік тому +53

      @@briancummings9122 yes…and hence why pumps should have been running on the boat along with buoyancy floats all around. These guys were over priced hacks.

    • @AnHonestLiar
      @AnHonestLiar Рік тому +1

      ​@@michaelcarmean4906 the guy driving did own a charter company and that boat.

    • @mikepotter6426
      @mikepotter6426 Рік тому +14

      Not enough pumps in the world to keep it up. Moving it would pull any flotation off. Boat was euro trash anyway. Let the fish have it

    • @michaelcarmean4906
      @michaelcarmean4906 Рік тому +3

      @@mikepotter6426 Great ✅ Observation

  • @MrOmarkiam
    @MrOmarkiam Місяць тому +3

    I was moored next to that boat when it came into the Lahaina Yacht Club mooring field. (got pics) We saw the most amateurish mooring pick up I have ever seen. They ran over the mooring with a woman on the deck trying to grab it with a boat hook. Scary . In fact, we were nervous and got our fenders ready!

  • @johnnyenglish6751
    @johnnyenglish6751 7 місяців тому +12

    "There are only 2 days of excitement in a recreational boat owner's life... The day you buy it and the day you SELL IT!"
    Day 1 because you have great expectations and Day 2 (after time & tons of 💰 spent) when your expectations were shattered! 🤣😂🤣

  • @The_Sword3
    @The_Sword3 Рік тому +176

    The real idiots in this story is the salvage company who clearly didn't know what they were doing.
    you could see the bildge pumps working even before they moved the boat which would have told them the hull was compromised. And no portable on board pumps . They should be sued for the loss of the boat minus the damage already incurred.

    • @cowlumbus
      @cowlumbus Рік тому +13

      Yep and the bilge workin tells me batteries were still on after claiming they were removed.

    • @gordowg1wg145
      @gordowg1wg145 Рік тому +7

      The fuel leak showed the hull was compromised, and that should have been a warning to check for further damage, even though that should have been SOP - then hauling it over the rocks was only going to damage it further.

    • @Houndini
      @Houndini Рік тому +5

      Gomer & Barney salvage LLC?

    • @mikescherrer4923
      @mikescherrer4923 Рік тому +6

      The real idiots in this story were everyone in this story.

    • @jermainerace4156
      @jermainerace4156 Рік тому +1

      But who would sue them? The boat was abandoned.

  • @cpnmikes
    @cpnmikes Рік тому +99

    The salvage operator should be held accountable for the final sinking.. the boat was already trashed and they could have inflated boyancy bags inside the boat to keep her afloat.. this seems to be salvage 101. Has anyone heard from them on their account on why the boat was basically allowed to sink, almost intentionally?

  • @ntal5859
    @ntal5859 Рік тому +245

    Seeing this goes a long way in explaining how the Skipper and Gilligan made a 3 hour tour into 5 years.

    • @10SMaxx-e5j
      @10SMaxx-e5j Рік тому +24

      They didn’t want to leave the island since MaryAnn and Ginger were there.

    • @arthurprager
      @arthurprager Рік тому +5

      Too funny!

    • @arthurprager
      @arthurprager Рік тому +2

      ​ I watch this and laugh my ass off. 38 ft Hans Christian owner Deepwater boat. Yes I single-handed it. Not to Tahiti though. The furthest I went was San Clemente Island about 70 plus nautical miles from Long Beach California. I did sail a 32-foot Hands Christian off Oahu. Not single-handed though.

    • @77Avadon77
      @77Avadon77 Рік тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😁👍👍👍👍🎉

    • @docwill184
      @docwill184 Рік тому +5

      @@jamesw.6931 Everybdy always clean clothes and freshly made up. And really. Ginger, MaryAnne never came up pregmant?

  • @PhillipPahinui
    @PhillipPahinui Рік тому +4

    It wasnt until i read the comment that the captions prove to be much more effective than a narration. Nice clip

  • @jamesanthony3691
    @jamesanthony3691 11 місяців тому +20

    It’s pretty bizarre how this played out. I’ve been a Commercial Diver for 22 years & a Salvage Master for 7 years. There are things done that showed there was someone that knew what they were doing like the rigging that went from the stern to bow, removing fuel & anything toxic, pumping fresh ware out of holding tanks, using a helo to bring in tools/equipment while removing consumables & excess weight, cutting off screws/rudders, etc. You do all of this the right way but don’t have pumps & discharge hoses staged before pulling the vessel off of the rocks makes absolutely no sense, even not having the pumps staged & running it’s not like the vessel just immediately sank, I’m sure there was a couple hours of the vessel taking on water before it sank so once you know it’s taking on water there’s still time to set up pumps & at a minimum it would buy enough time to get lift-bags attached so if it does sink it'll just be under the waterline & could be towed as a semisubmersible or temporarily patch the hull & re-float. My guess is since there was no one wanting to take financial responsibility is that the crew that did the actual salvage work were relieved once the vessel was prepared for the final tow & responsibility shifted to the whoever was Towing the Vessel & there was probably some grimy business going on so when they passed the vessel to the next company there was very little if any information shared during the handoff. Those Tugs & Supply Boats all have Portable Trash Pumps aboard them so it’s still mind boggling why they didn’t set them up. The one guarantee now is that there is going to be lawsuits after lawsuits with everyone suing everyone with no one owning responsibility for anything.. having pumps & lift bags pre-staged should have been a no brainer which would have saved this vessel from hitting bottom causing way more damage, work, & cost!!

    • @TheMikesylv
      @TheMikesylv 3 місяці тому +2

      How could they not have pumps ready it’s not like those salvage boats are run by individuals who are unqualified those are big expensive boats. Idiots don’t run boats like that? Do they? This is scarier than the idiot who ran the yacht aground.

    • @WaybackRewind
      @WaybackRewind 2 місяці тому

      Exactly

    • @marcc482
      @marcc482 2 місяці тому +2

      LOL.. sad to say but there shou
      D have been some Benny Hill music playing with this video 🤷🏻🤐

    • @TheMikesylv
      @TheMikesylv 2 місяці тому

      @@marcc482 right lol

  • @larrymiller7365
    @larrymiller7365 Рік тому +82

    Once the salvage company ties onto the boat, it's their baby to take care of, so they are responsible for the sinking. They should have had some pumps working and large floats holding it up since they knew it was taking on water. It is likely that more hull damage was incurred by being dragged in the sideways arc. The debris was from the dragging of the boat. Rocking back and forth on the beach probably just caused punctures and cracks. You could see the discoloration in the water caused by the scraping of the seafloor. That's where the debris came from.

  • @detroitdiesel7074
    @detroitdiesel7074 Рік тому +1026

    That’s incredible that those people call themselves a salvage team, all they did was hook a line on to her and sink a fixable 1.45 million dollar yacht

    • @AlkalineGamingHD
      @AlkalineGamingHD Рік тому +81

      Severe underside hull damage, water conditions, and 3 tugs were required to unmoor this thing from the rocks. The damaged hull is the most costly to repair, was already a right off by the insurance company, and the incredible water ingress from the damaged hull was simply not worth the effort to save it. Most people were simply glad to have the environmental hazard and eye sore removed.

    • @NjJfjr
      @NjJfjr Рік тому +37

      That's exactly what I watched as well.
      I'm amazed at the amount of damage from negligence on the salvage teams part.
      NFG 👎🤬😤
      💥 BADA BING BADA BOOM 💥
      I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE 🙌
      Nj'sJfJr 👍🏼💪🏼❤️🇺🇸

    • @Myfrilleddragons
      @Myfrilleddragons Рік тому +45

      ​@@Knucklehead4400 State probably went with the budget team

    • @GalvestonGuy
      @GalvestonGuy Рік тому +42

      I agree. Even for a novice I knew that they would have to have water pumps a blazing the minute they had it off of the reef. The state needs to hire a more competent salvage company. I was surprised to see that taking off the prop/ rudder was also an afterthought.

    • @NjJfjr
      @NjJfjr Рік тому +4

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      I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE 🙌
      Nj'sJfJr 👍🏼💪🏼❤️🇺🇸

  • @alexant3923
    @alexant3923 Рік тому +246

    Did I understand correctly that the rescue team received half a million dollars for sinking a 1.5 millionth yacht while trying to refloat it? If so, then this is the best business in the world.

    • @sweezy7455
      @sweezy7455 8 місяців тому +9

      I'm apparently in the wrong business lmao.

    • @vladabos
      @vladabos 8 місяців тому

      💪💪💪😂😂😂

    • @russellstone9056
      @russellstone9056 6 місяців тому

      Nope, that's the medical industry. They screw up all the time and still get paid. The for-profit medical industrial complex. Getting paid trillions to kill masses of people every day.

    • @mikeschneider5077
      @mikeschneider5077 6 місяців тому +3

      When the incompetence on display is too much to be believable, my assumption turns to insurance scam. (I surmise the touring business wasn't too good during the lockdowns.)

    • @mnztr1
      @mnztr1 6 місяців тому +3

      I would finsihed it off for 150K lol

  • @bryansummers3219
    @bryansummers3219 Рік тому

    I'm confused. Was the fuel leak mentioned at 1:47 caused by holes in the hull, or not? Either way, shouldn't checking the integrity of the hull from the inside be done PRIOR to dragging the boat into deeper water???

  • @harleyrdr1
    @harleyrdr1 29 днів тому +1

    This situation was pure incompetence at all levels, including rescuing the yacht off of the rocks.

  • @hillaryc.3727
    @hillaryc.3727 Рік тому +156

    This must be among the most horrifically incompetent salvage operations I’ve ever seen. What were they thinking!!!

    • @reedschmitt8196
      @reedschmitt8196 5 місяців тому +1

      So how would do it then big guy? In fact, you've probably never been on a boat in your life.

    • @mikkelkirketerp4884
      @mikkelkirketerp4884 4 місяці тому +16

      ​@@reedschmitt8196 bilge pumps?
      Airbladders in the hull to ensure it wouldn't fill with water.
      Do you want any more tips?

    • @richardshirley2786
      @richardshirley2786 4 місяці тому +3

      They weren’t.

    • @richardshirley2786
      @richardshirley2786 4 місяці тому +3

      They weren’t.

    • @TravisHi_YT
      @TravisHi_YT 3 місяці тому +2

      @@reedschmitt8196 It doesn't look like they have either 😂

  • @dt6126
    @dt6126 Рік тому +228

    So a salvage company got nearly $500,000.00 to sink the yacht? Interesting 🤔

    • @45acp46
      @45acp46 Рік тому +2

      Hahahahahahhahaaawww!!

    • @bdubb1882
      @bdubb1882 Рік тому +28

      Salvage is likely owned by a relative of some Hawaiian government bigwig. Probably just sent his cousins out.

    • @don7294
      @don7294 Рік тому +20

      I would have charged half that, to sink the yacht...

    • @ebaystars
      @ebaystars Рік тому +3

      @@bdubb1882 same in Thailand and its called ZigZag here

    • @peterdarr383
      @peterdarr383 Рік тому +33

      Steal eleven batteries, barrels of Diesel and 2 expensive brass propellers, all the beer and wine and the Navigation electronics too, then sink it.

  • @paulmannix1760
    @paulmannix1760 Рік тому +51

    At 11.20 there is a salvaged wine bottle. An Australian wine, yellow tail, a Sauvignon Blanc, not a bad drop but it’s less than $8.00 in Australia. So they went budget on the wine, budget on the captain, budget on the salvage company. Just an observation.

    • @michaelbrownlee9497
      @michaelbrownlee9497 Рік тому +6

      I don't know what it is about people in industry.....the level of incompetence in the power boat community is staggering.
      ...its one gaped jaw look of disbelief where ever you look.

    • @OgamiItto70
      @OgamiItto70 Рік тому +1

      Well, with a boat that cost 1.5 million large, economies had to be employed _somewhere._

    • @paulmannix1760
      @paulmannix1760 Рік тому +1

      @@OgamiItto70 True!

    • @USAcbi99
      @USAcbi99 3 місяці тому

      He spent all of his money on the damn boat !

  • @jgodinski207
    @jgodinski207 Рік тому +3

    Enjoyed the continuous water hitting shore dubbed in.

  • @davidclawson4516
    @davidclawson4516 Рік тому +3

    Our German Shepherd is named Nakoa. It means protector or warrior in Hawaiian. Would have loved to have had this yacht named after him. It’s a shame what happened to this boat.

  • @SailorsGirl1957
    @SailorsGirl1957 Рік тому +36

    I spent 40 years boating, lived on one for five years. When it works well, it's fantastic, and when it doesn't work well, it SUCKS. I don't miss it.

    • @Del_Monico
      @Del_Monico Рік тому

      shut up

    • @jimj2683
      @jimj2683 Рік тому +4

      Boating only sucks if the boat costs more to run per year than 10% of you yearly income.

    • @dartskipper3170
      @dartskipper3170 7 місяців тому +2

      If you ask how much it costs to own a boat, you can't afford it.

    • @dartskipper3170
      @dartskipper3170 7 місяців тому

      If you ask how much it costs to own a boat, you can't afford it.

  • @psalm2forliberty577
    @psalm2forliberty577 Рік тому +95

    Needed:
    A:1 Very Large Turbo Bilge Pump
    B: 2 - 5 gallon pails "Marine Tex"
    to patch holes
    C: 1 medium sized Brain to plan
    Saving that Yacht was as simple as
    A B C.....but somebody skipped Kindergarten.... obviously.

    • @SuperChuckRaney
      @SuperChuckRaney 8 місяців тому +4

      the boats doing the towing looked like tugs, maybe no actual salvage people were invovled.
      Once it started going under, they should have stopped towing, probably could have towed from rear (maybe)
      A simple tarp wrap under the keel would have kept the 'pump effect' from towing work.
      Another post here says he saw some salvagers put rubber ballons inside a boat where the hole were on it, and THAT kept the boat from sinking when towed as there was no way for water to get inside the boat.

    • @jenniferstewarts4851
      @jenniferstewarts4851 6 місяців тому +12

      umm, D floation bags, pull it out into the water then attach flotation bags to the sides of the hull, and tow it to the port where they can haul it out of the water for repairs

    • @psalm2forliberty577
      @psalm2forliberty577 6 місяців тому +1

      @@jenniferstewarts4851
      Indeed 🥺!

    • @ishure8849
      @ishure8849 5 місяців тому +11

      @@SuperChuckRaney Captain Cook hit the Great Barrier Reef and punched a hole in his wooden ship, they pulled a sail under the hull and made it to shore for repairs. His GPS and sonar wasn't working to well in 1770 👍.

    • @billmorrow406
      @billmorrow406 3 місяці тому +1

      5200 and lots of it..

  • @1701_FyldeFlyer
    @1701_FyldeFlyer Рік тому +68

    Totally botched operation. Who'd have thought dragging the boat round 90 degrees on a rocky shoreline wouldnt put holes in the hull then tow it into deeper water without making sure it was watertight? Almost as if they just wanted the salvager's fee!

  • @jafo4u508
    @jafo4u508 Рік тому +2

    Good lord, they didn't patch up any of the damage. The boat was listing to one side. All they had to do was some temporary repairs and attach some high capacity water pumps and ballast to at least get it to a dry dock. Owner might have been stupid, but the company conducting the salvage was utter garbage.

  • @Aaron40117
    @Aaron40117 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for showing this. I love Maui. This is such a shame. Let's hope hope someone is held to account to minimize the chance of something like this happening again.

  • @brewsnoop
    @brewsnoop Рік тому +51

    Terrible what happened to this yacht and the resulting damage to the bay but the videography for this story was impressive. I loved the use of captions rather than a narrator too. Well done!

  • @edwardpape5819
    @edwardpape5819 Рік тому +66

    1.5 million for their boat and they drink Yellow Tail????

    • @copperheadh1052
      @copperheadh1052 6 місяців тому +6

      Its five dollars per bottle in central US. 😆 I noticed that also. Yuck.

    • @Alexander-mx2js
      @Alexander-mx2js 6 місяців тому +1

      Это спасатели скинули под шумок😂

    • @modee-b9s
      @modee-b9s 5 місяців тому +1

      Taste is with the beholder. I like YT.

    • @BigLisaFan
      @BigLisaFan 4 місяці тому

      Maybe all they could afford after buying the boat. 🤣🤣

    • @antiussentiment
      @antiussentiment Місяць тому

      Alleged Aussie drug money laundering wine.
      ~laughs~

  • @Tael71
    @Tael71 Рік тому +76

    I'm surprised that they didnt have float bags on the ship once they got it off the beach or just before. Sitting on that shore in the waves for days it was highly likely the hull was compromised.
    I would have expected float bags or a barge brought in and the ship immediately loaded on to it.

    • @ms.annthrope415
      @ms.annthrope415 Рік тому +2

      That would have racked up much higher salvage fees so the owners probably told the salvage firm to do it as cheaply as possible.

    • @joveylndicdican1763
      @joveylndicdican1763 Рік тому +2

      @@ms.annthrope415 state ordered salvage over $450,000 and they couldn't fill the boat with salvage bags?

  • @JohnDoesItAll
    @JohnDoesItAll 8 місяців тому +2

    This makes as much sense as freeing a stuck vehicle that's in neutral and watching it roll down the side of a mountain. The sheer stupidity is mind-blowing.

  • @lenny108
    @lenny108 3 місяці тому +1

    4:12 The waves constantly smashed the hull against the rocks until it got cracks and broke

  • @williamlorenzmedia9026
    @williamlorenzmedia9026 Рік тому +11

    Circa 1992... I was on a lobster diving charter boat that went to Catalina with about 25 divers (sleep aboard) and the captain fell asleep on the way back around sunrise. We hit the breakwall in San Pedro, CA (about a 1/4 mile from shore) and the boat was pinned up on the rocks. We all bailed off the boat onto the rocks with our dive gear and waited for some boats to shuttle us off to shore. The salvage team that showed up put huge rubber baffles in the boat and aired them up, forcing out any water inside the boat and making it impossible to sink. When they pulled it off the rocks, it did not sink and they were able to safely move it to a nearby boat yard for repairs. Obviously, the salvage company in Oahu that moved this yacht had no clue about what they were doing and we're talking 31 years after my own experience on that dive boat returning form Catalina. You would think the technology would have come a long way, but...

    • @SuperChuckRaney
      @SuperChuckRaney 8 місяців тому +1

      They looked like basic tug oprators really.
      As the video was showing them towning it off, I thought? doesn't it have holes underneath ?
      Sure enough.

  • @ace1usmc
    @ace1usmc Рік тому +30

    I worked for a tow/salvage company once. The moment you are hooked up, you're responsible for any damage from that point forward, unless it's already clearly a total and completely loss - which it most definitely was not at that point. This video footage is gonna be damning evidence against the salvage company for complete and total incompetence. That doesn't get the capt and owners off the hook for their stupidity. However, their stupidity did not DIRECTLY cause the total loss of the vessel. Just the environmental damages, and fines for the illegal stuff.

    • @vladabos
      @vladabos 8 місяців тому +6

      agree👍

  • @waldo9254
    @waldo9254 Рік тому +37

    So...$460k was charged to not salvage a boat? Interesting.

  • @jacana25
    @jacana25 Рік тому +26

    Interesting that a $1.45 million boat would serve up yellowtail, possibly the cheapest and nastiest wine ever to come out of Australia. Goes to show money doesn't buy taste.

  • @tippyphil
    @tippyphil 2 місяці тому +1

    Should have fixed the hole in hull assuming there to be one as fuel had leaked out. Put a huge pump on board to keep pumping water out if hull re-holed - put a floatation collar round the vessel -

  • @Duane77able
    @Duane77able Рік тому +11

    Well done.
    You know what they say about boating...96% fun and relaxation 4% stark raving terror.

  • @stevepritchard9544
    @stevepritchard9544 Рік тому +13

    awsome use of low tide to drag it sideways over the rocks. Good t see Hi Flow Sub Pumps onboard and temporty floats on the side of the boat to keep the waterline low.

  • @EXPIOWA
    @EXPIOWA Рік тому +58

    Great job guys! That was some top-tier craptastic work. Did nobody think to look for holes in the hull after being beached and pounded by waves and morons for days? 😂 It could have only ended one way. This was so incompetent that it looked like a lot like an intentional sinking.

    • @Torrque
      @Torrque 7 місяців тому +4

      This is the mentality of MOST Hawaii small companies. Lazy incompetence. No competition… no penalty or accountability.

    • @tyoung9012
      @tyoung9012 5 місяців тому +1

      Yup. Drag it off shore and let it sink in open water. That was the plan

  • @mshell1959
    @mshell1959 5 місяців тому +2

    " Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am stuck on the bottom with you".

  • @scruggsbuster9458
    @scruggsbuster9458 Місяць тому +1

    Oh my goodness the fish are going to live in luxury for a while😂😂❤🐬🐟🦈🐡🐠🐳

  • @arhzee3310
    @arhzee3310 Рік тому +58

    The lawyers will probably make out much better than the owners or the salvage company

  • @paulrybarczyk5013
    @paulrybarczyk5013 Рік тому +10

    I think they misread the contract ... they thought it said SAVAGE, not SALVAGE. Then they proceeded to savage the hell out of it!

  • @whynot5568
    @whynot5568 7 місяців тому +1

    4:59 almost looks like a little toy at the lake or something

  • @jozefk.2495
    @jozefk.2495 4 місяці тому +1

    Maybe they should have used marine salvage airbags inside the hull, and also around the sides, and they should have towed it really slowly to a port?!

  • @edwardranno7119
    @edwardranno7119 Рік тому +132

    It looks like the tow company deliberately sunk that boat.

    • @The_Sword3
      @The_Sword3 Рік тому +21

      Not deliberate but incompetence seems about right.

    • @ionizer24
      @ionizer24 Рік тому +19

      Why would they not have used flotation bags on that vessel? Towing company is incompetent. Captain /owner is incompetent as well and should lose his certification as captain of any vessel more sophisticated than a row boat.

    • @patrickcox1313
      @patrickcox1313 Рік тому +16

      Why would they not have trash pumps on the boat, many of them, ready to go? It’s the first thing the coast guard does. It had been holed bad enough to puncture the fuel tanks. Looks deliberate. Racing to get far enough out that they won’t be forced to salvage it.

    • @davemetz7368
      @davemetz7368 Рік тому

      The tow company was owned by the Biden family.

    • @ptt3975
      @ptt3975 Рік тому +3

      Interesting point because they would have known they were tearing the hull open.

  • @curtiscristwell1007
    @curtiscristwell1007 Рік тому +47

    imagine paying all that money to charter a 1.5 million dollar yacht around Hawaii and being servered YELLOW TAIL wine!!! HAHA

    • @patienceobongo
      @patienceobongo Рік тому +6

      $5 per bottle

    • @rnl9520
      @rnl9520 Рік тому +1

      That stuff is Shite!😊

    • @wellydude1
      @wellydude1 Рік тому +2

      I came here to say the same thing 😂

    • @jafo4u508
      @jafo4u508 Рік тому +1

      😂😂😂 I was thinking the same thing, more like something I see coming out of a cooler of 18 year Olds at the beach.

  • @jamesstuart3346
    @jamesstuart3346 Рік тому +65

    Absolutely outstanding reporting and videography. Really well done!

  • @bc8648
    @bc8648 Рік тому +1

    "a series of maneuvers" gets me every time...lmao

  • @jamesburroughs4709
    @jamesburroughs4709 Рік тому +18

    Jim not so rich anymore I'm thinking. When you see Jim and his wife pushing a shopping cart with their belongings heading for their new tent down by the river, say hey from James!!!

    • @Animalit55
      @Animalit55 Рік тому

      Jim jones the rapper they rented

  • @RoyalMetal9
    @RoyalMetal9 Рік тому +34

    Extremely unqualified recovery team.
    Total noobs.
    They should be sued as well.

    • @briansmith1029
      @briansmith1029 Рік тому +1

      Not just salvage crew what made a complete mess of it whoever was captaining that yacht should never be allowed near a wheel house faults on both sides as far as I can see

  • @MrWhitesite
    @MrWhitesite Рік тому +39

    Going to be split liability methinks. Looks to me like the salvage company made things worse and could have done more before trying to move it. That does not negate the incompetency of the captain and owner for getting there in the first place.

  • @spacecoastpodcast
    @spacecoastpodcast Рік тому

    Excellent work Dino

  • @MovieMakingMan
    @MovieMakingMan 7 місяців тому +3

    I have zero boat rescue experience but even I know all it would have taken in 50 cans of flex seal at $20/can to prevent leaks and simply tow it away. The cost: $1000 instead of $450,000 and the loss of a $1,450,000 boat.

  • @Smannellites
    @Smannellites Рік тому +12

    Unbelievable! It was obvious from the fuel leaks that the boat was badly holed. Then when it was towed off the rocks there was already a heavy list to starboard, indicating that it had taken on a large quantity of water. It was almost as though it was being deliberately sunk.

    • @smaze1782
      @smaze1782 Рік тому

      Interesting theory. Could absolutely be true. The owner seems a little sleezy so who knows.

    • @dmitripogosian5084
      @dmitripogosian5084 Рік тому

      Even if it was sunk deliberately, they should have cared for the reef

  • @RollTideRoll_GSP
    @RollTideRoll_GSP Рік тому +16

    Paid 460k for two days of work removing a yacht? A team of 10 guys and 1-2 tug/tow boats! Seems like a really good payday to me for whomever owns this company! Profited around 410-420k out of the 460k I’m guessing!

    • @rgarito
      @rgarito Рік тому +2

      Hopefully not once the salvage company gets done paying fines and (hopefully) losing their salvage license.

    • @goodbyemr.anderson5065
      @goodbyemr.anderson5065 Рік тому +1

      I dont think you realize how expensive it is to run a giant tug boat like that.

    • @harpoon_bakery162
      @harpoon_bakery162 Рік тому

      @@goodbyemr.anderson5065 it's extremely expensive, especially due to how long they had it out there.

  • @jonkarle8670
    @jonkarle8670 Рік тому +19

    Yes, I agree it should have not been pulled that far initially, just enough to be able to put inflatable hoists or patches to make it seaworthy to be towed.

  • @chowchow2386
    @chowchow2386 Рік тому

    To all who are criticising the salvage operators: Please look up the definition of "salvage". The purpose of a salvage operation is not to "save the boat" or repair it to a seaworthy state. The purpose is to recover/remove the vessel only. The owners and insurance companies had already written the vessel off as a loss.
    And as a former navy sailor, trained in damage control, you who criticize have obviously NEVER had to patch a hull breach beneath the waterline. This is difficult with a steel hull, near impossible with a fiberglass hull, while ship is in water.

  • @PhilipTaylor-x7y
    @PhilipTaylor-x7y Рік тому +1

    If he employed a professional Skipper then the Skipper should have known about the holding, the restriction in the area and the expected tidal range, flow and weather for the next 24 , 48 hours! He should have moored up somewhere near by but safe,. Possibly setting 2 anchors taking bearings and keeping a crew member (Who knows the "bearings" dictated by the anchors) as look out whilst looking out himself. (if he or she is a decent Skipper they'll not trust anyone 100%). However having got into that predicament they should have called in professionals to first make the Yacht secure and then to get it off that shore ASAP and safe. Skippers Fault and Owners Fault if the Skipper is not properly qualified and he didn't check him out. Insurance wouldn't pay up in full if that was the case! Take your choice! A simple enough question to answer. Q: The Skipper was either fully Qualified at the time or not!

  • @JeepDude_1
    @JeepDude_1 Рік тому +28

    Yet ANOTHER example that ALL the money in the world
    CANNOT BUY YOU COMMON SENSE 😂

  • @BLKninjas
    @BLKninjas Рік тому +27

    This was all over the news out here in Hawaii. Damaged coral reef and the fuel leak sparked anger. I'm not sure who would be at fault but at least it scuttled putting a further significant amount of fines and loss of money.

    • @BoatZone
      @BoatZone  Рік тому +30

      As soon as I saw the news on the internet, I decided to compile some footage and make the video because the level of irresponsibility towards marine life and the inhabitants of Hawaii is unsettling

    • @thestig5020
      @thestig5020 Рік тому +13

      The hawaii gov incompetents and the tow company. there was no reason for this boat to be removed without floating it first, whe they did what they did they did far more harm to the reef than the boat did when it grounded there. what is even worse is that the entire boat and everything with it is now sitting offshore.
      good job hawaii gov incompetents.

    • @herpiegerbstick6808
      @herpiegerbstick6808 Рік тому

      ​@@thestig5020 soooooo.... Everyone but the vessels Capitan and owner who hired the captain

    • @thestig5020
      @thestig5020 Рік тому +8

      @@herpiegerbstick6808 owner was definitely at fault for what he did, but everybody after him caused more damage than he did.
      of everybody was worried about the environmental damage then they should have floated the boat off, towed the boat home.
      did you watch the vid of the boat getting wrenched off the reef - that was more damaging to the coral than the grounding.

    • @emsalsa9385
      @emsalsa9385 Рік тому +4

      Oops. It’s okay he’ll pay someone off, won’t face any consequences, and buy a bigger one. No harm done.

  • @C5Ron7
    @C5Ron7 Рік тому +24

    I am by far not a Tree Hugger but I do my share to keep my surroundings clean. Hope they pay dearly for damage to the ocean/water/floor. Not Good 🤬

    • @BoatZone
      @BoatZone  Рік тому +3

      I hope so too

    • @stevealkire7626
      @stevealkire7626 Рік тому +1

      *It should be minimal as they removed all fuel, batteries and lubricants and they were on rocks not reef. Had it been a competent salvage there would have been no sinking.*

    • @swervsplatt9672
      @swervsplatt9672 Рік тому

      Pay whom? Who profits from that? The government.

    • @C5Ron7
      @C5Ron7 Рік тому

      @@swervsplatt9672 SAD to say but yes, the government.😖Mandatory Fines for Pollution, the ONLY way to make people "Think" before potentially polluting.........

  • @aeroscout8409
    @aeroscout8409 Рік тому

    Anybody know the background on Jim Jones? Were they previous yacht owners?

  • @TheOneJPtv
    @TheOneJPtv 8 місяців тому +1

    That brown stuff is Oil not sand being kicked up.

  • @yankeetraveler1118
    @yankeetraveler1118 Рік тому +4

    From OSHA...Section 1926.350(a)(9) provides that compressed gas cylinders must be secured in an upright position, regardless of whether they are in use or in storage.

    • @ntal5859
      @ntal5859 Рік тому +1

      That is going to make scuba diving a whole lot harder considering 90% it's on a divers back horizontal. Quick call OSHA.

    • @yankeetraveler1118
      @yankeetraveler1118 Рік тому +2

      @@ntal5859 Scuba divers used compressed air, not oxygen, in tanks that are specifically designed to be operated in any position. Industrial oxygen tanks for welding and torch cutting operations are not designed to be used horizontally, using them on their side can cause them to leak or cause a malfunction of the regulator. Both are dangerous situations. The salvage company was using industrial oxygen tank in support of the underwater arc cutting. The welder was "At Work" and therefore subject to OSHA rules and regulations.

  • @jamesfoster9256
    @jamesfoster9256 Рік тому +5

    Being a boat owner, myself, I’ll learn early on it’s best never to get on the lake during the holidays or the weekends. I had a lady hit my boat and drive me into a pylon which left me with a monstrous scratch on the side of my brand, new boat, I didn’t realize it was that damaged until I got out of the boat to go home. Lesson learned.

    • @swiftadventurer
      @swiftadventurer Рік тому

      "being a boat on or myself"???

    • @jamesfoster9256
      @jamesfoster9256 Рік тому +1

      @@swiftadventurer thanks I hope it’s better now I was trying to say the word owner. I don’t type I just speak and then pound it.

  • @MikeSmith-ch7jv
    @MikeSmith-ch7jv Рік тому +11

    I can not believe they didn't put in a sump pump, seeing how no visible repairs were made to the hull.

  • @scandelicious764
    @scandelicious764 Рік тому

    Chef’s Kiss at 11:20. I guess the boat payment cut into the wine budget. 😂

  • @bingo7799
    @bingo7799 Рік тому +16

    Just shows how fast a beautiful adventure can turn into a disaster.

    • @eclipser2004
      @eclipser2004 Рік тому +2

      Kind of like life itself hey?

    • @josephreilly6328
      @josephreilly6328 Рік тому

      I'm going to sit right back and I'll hear the tale.

    • @bingo7799
      @bingo7799 Рік тому

      @@josephreilly6328 Of a fateful trip?

  • @oceanjockey100
    @oceanjockey100 Рік тому +6

    I wondered why large pumps, plywood sheets, and floatation bladders were not put aboard or installed when the salvage operation began. It would be one of the first things I did. Keep the water out as you being to get it floating again. Beyond that, it appears the rest of the salvage was done correctly with the bridle installation and also cutting away the running gear obstructions. HOWEVER...one other thing: there was apparently an advanced fixed price arrangement for the work. Therefore there was no "Lloyd's Open" (no cure, no pay) agreement. That alone would remove all incentive to get her back to port in one piece. That reasoning would be "...it's better to have the $460k gross than 1/2 of whatever she could be worth brought in." Just sayin'..

  • @lindanelson6643
    @lindanelson6643 Рік тому +21

    Can't believe they let that yacht sink!

    • @ntal5859
      @ntal5859 Рік тому

      Yes because men control the ocean like Aquaman you dumb fool.

  • @D-Boss-1958
    @D-Boss-1958 7 місяців тому

    10:00 You think someone should patch a hole before it gets into deep water?

  • @Scratchingforcash
    @Scratchingforcash Рік тому +1

    What a complete loss to the owners, a complete shame to the ocean life and a complete lack of common sense to the salvor.

  • @josephp5058
    @josephp5058 Рік тому +10

    Should have named the salvage crew as a warning to others never to use them

  • @pedrovision6987
    @pedrovision6987 Рік тому +10

    I'm hoping someone checked the tide tables before they pulled it off the rocks...
    We're going to need a follow-up on this story...whew, what a series of errors...stay on top of this Boat-Zone!! (Thank you for your fine uplaods!! What's the latest with the BTS??)

  • @farrdawgjoker7087
    @farrdawgjoker7087 Рік тому +4

    That boat was cursed. No matter who was at the helm the boat decided to die. Beaching didn't end it but removing it from the rocks did leave a hole through its heart and death came quickly because of a salvage crew on par with the captain who let it run aground in the 1st place.

  • @NonyaBsnes
    @NonyaBsnes 10 місяців тому +8

    Riku moment

  • @gregorytoddsmith9744
    @gregorytoddsmith9744 Рік тому +9

    As Alfred says....Welcome to the chit show!

  • @fhoinstall
    @fhoinstall Рік тому +6

    It's Like watching our government. They place blame and stupid begets stupid. And then the public pays the tab. My heart go's out to our ocean.

  • @roadboat9216
    @roadboat9216 Рік тому +5

    A. I never trust moorings. The only way I might is to dive the entire mooring top to bottom. And B. DON’T Depend on electronics solely. Aways back up. I have sailed much of the world. As a Captain I ran 300 passenger ferrys. When world cruising I. Always trusted my anchor more than a mooring. If I have to use a mooring, I dive it. Or at least back down some on it. And don’t leave the boat unattended. I have seen so many boats lost to moorings. They could be great……………or not! You never know unless you dive it. All of it. So sorry for this.

    • @roadboat9216
      @roadboat9216 Рік тому

      Ok. Gotcha. That’s quite different. Thanks. And happy boating.

  • @pipersmitty87
    @pipersmitty87 Рік тому +1

    at 8:41... OSHA...this is not OK...No way is he breathing that air, but he is

  • @jwood5462
    @jwood5462 3 місяці тому

    Wouldnt you normally pump up some type of flotation devices around the hull to take weight off the bottom before trying to turn the boat? I mean, you pretty much know dragging it like that is going to rip it apart.

  • @TChalla007
    @TChalla007 Рік тому +4

    Luxury charter yacht that serves cheap yellowtail wine. That pretty much sums it up.

    • @ericboyle8296
      @ericboyle8296 Рік тому

      Damn you beat me to it! It all makes sense now - SMH!

    • @TChalla007
      @TChalla007 Рік тому +1

      @@ericboyle8296 🤣🤣🤣🤣 My wife and I have had yellowtail Cabernet, but I don't serve it to my friends, let alone clients.

    • @ericboyle8296
      @ericboyle8296 Рік тому

      @@TChalla007 Exactly. I admit to having the chardonnay 😬!

    • @TChalla007
      @TChalla007 Рік тому +1

      @@ericboyle8296 🤣🤣 To be honest it's not bad for casual drinking at home after a long day. Just not for special occasions. which means there was nothing special about that luxury charter. If you cut corners with wine, regulations, no crew on board while you're anchored out, you're a hazard to your clients. Imagine the minimal maintenance he probably did.

  • @jamesbruzgis9476
    @jamesbruzgis9476 Рік тому +6

    I think the most astonishing thing in all of this is a $1.4 million boat and they’re drinking fuc**** yellowtail!

  • @the-chillian
    @the-chillian Рік тому +4

    Apparently they got around the need for a commercial license by offering it as a bareboat charter, and then "suggesting" a crew for the customer to hire.

    • @robertcross5794
      @robertcross5794 Рік тому +1

      I have seen that tactic used before.

    • @harpoon_bakery162
      @harpoon_bakery162 Рік тому +1

      @@robertcross5794 insurance companies balk at that for a reason

  • @Peopleareusuallygood
    @Peopleareusuallygood 3 місяці тому

    Wow. I'm not trained to do that stuff, but I guess they just have a submarine now. 😅😅😅. Here's your key back. Enjoy your underwater home. It's one of a kind!

  • @GreggK-bs9ww
    @GreggK-bs9ww 10 місяців тому

    After watching this video and reading the story, I am 100% confident that I will sleep just fine tonight

  • @jefferyshall
    @jefferyshall Рік тому +4

    Why were the Alberts suing Jim Jones for anything?!? They sold him the boat, everything that happened after that and all the related expenses are his responsibility not theirs!

    • @berndl
      @berndl Рік тому +1

      Right - this does not seem logical and needs some explanation. Maybe the Jones did not yet pay or the trip was kind of a pre-purchase inspection?

  • @sentinal001
    @sentinal001 Рік тому +5

    I love boats and I love the ocean. I retired from the Navy. I have taken boater safety courses and I am pretty good at navigation. Since retiring I have only been able to afford to own one boat. She was a beat-up old thing that I restored and used for diving and fishing, for a lot of years.. I miss her.
    When I see all of these beautiful boats on here, and the stupid things people do with them I wonder why. How can someone spend all that money to buy a beautiful boat and then go out and wreck it by doing something foolish?
    There are many like me who would love to have a beautiful boat, who would operate it safely and correctly, and who would cherish it and take care of it.
    I have come to the conclusion that there are too many idiots out there with too much money and too little brains.

  • @charadeswithcaution
    @charadeswithcaution Рік тому +5

    Why not pull the heavier stern out first? Pulling the bow first just turned the heavier stern more inland. Those are some expensive idiot's.