FASTER than RTX 3090Ti on LN2 | Palit RTX 4090 GameRock OC Review, Overclocking, Power Scaling

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  • Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
  • The crystal RGB LEDs are mesmerizing, but can its performance mesmerize too?
    Stay tuned for the RTX 4090 buying guide video!
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    / @otechnology
    Indonesian version: • RTX 3090Ti pake LN2 te...
    HWBot Benchmark Results Links:
    Port Royal hwbot.org/submission/5097102_
    Timespy Extreme hwbot.org/submission/5097101_
    Timespy hwbot.org/submission/5097104_
    Firestrike Ultra hwbot.org/submission/5097108_
    Firestrike Extreme hwbot.org/submission/5097109_
    Firestrike hwbot.org/submission/5097110_
    Timestamps:
    0:00 - RTX 4090 vs RTX 3090 LN2
    0:30 - Taking a closer look
    2:22 - Test system
    3:44 - Powering it on
    4:09 - Overclocking
    5:03 - Games on MAX settings
    6:20 - DLSS performance boost
    7:31 - Stock clocks, power and temps
    8:02 - Overclocked clocks, power and temps
    8:42 - TDP performance scaling
    10:14 - Teardown
    11:12 - VRMs
    11:55 - Heatsink Design
    12:31 - Conclusion
    #rtx4090 #graphicsbrick #palitgamerock #beyondfast
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  • @jeremyf1901
    @jeremyf1901 Рік тому +2

    I’m so glad you found my comment on another video letting me know my 4090 Suprim X is a good pcp. Your kindness to respond with good or bad news is appreciated (luckily it was good lol). I’m a new subscriber to you now.

  • @dr_lulz
    @dr_lulz Рік тому +5

    Discovered your channel through your comments on Buildzoid’s channel. This is a great video! I bought this card and started to panic after watching his video. This was by far the cheapest 4090 option available in the U.K. at £1730. Though the VRM and PCB are disappointing they should hopefully last for a good few years especially at stock OC’s… I hope. I just can’t justify paying £300-500 more for an ASUS/MSI and they have their own issues apparently such as coil whine. Anyway, thanks, I appreciated your thoroughness. Subbed.

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology  Рік тому +5

      Thanks! To be honest the VRMs are much less important on the 4090 than it was in the 3090 cards. 4090 just pull much less current that even base VRMs like these I have tried to work fine even with shunt mods.

    • @dr_lulz
      @dr_lulz Рік тому +1

      @@OTechnology Thank you for enlightening and reassuring me sir! 👍

  • @den2242
    @den2242 Рік тому

    Very useful video, thanks 👍

  • @hanswurst6742
    @hanswurst6742 Рік тому +3

    So basically the backplate is only there for looks and not for dissipating any heat...great design...

  • @callmeveler5695
    @callmeveler5695 Рік тому +3

    Would you recommend the palit game rock model of this card over the galax SG? These are the two models that are available in my country also a video for which 4090 to buy and which to avoid would be nice

  • @hanniballecter5205
    @hanniballecter5205 Рік тому +3

    great video. Will you make a guide for all rtx 4090 as you did for the rtx 3000?

  • @Sapca1111
    @Sapca1111 Рік тому

    Hey, would we see a video for the best 4090 to get? Like your tops for the 3080, 3080TI, and 3090. Will really help when choosing what to buy. Thanks!

  • @dotms5195
    @dotms5195 10 місяців тому

    Late to the party but thanks for the TDP performance scaling information. Helpful :)

  • @kingcoolness3345
    @kingcoolness3345 Рік тому

    you should do a radeon vs rtx benchmark video, ive been struggling to figure out which one to get

  • @mulkmulkmulk
    @mulkmulkmulk Рік тому +1

    ty for review

  • @johnwells558
    @johnwells558 Рік тому +2

    Whats the 2 x 8 pin solder joints on the board at time stamp 11.20 onwards?

  • @Mos_Ion_Roata
    @Mos_Ion_Roata Рік тому

    Since there are less reviews of Gainward Phantom, mostly being previews or just unboxings, do you think that it is possible that Phantom uses the same PCB as the Palit ( GameRock )?
    I ask because in my country Gainward Phantom and Palit GameRock are the most affordable 4080/4090s and I wish I'd go for the Phantom because of asthetics but I don't mind Palit also, unless I took the PCB analysis to the heart.
    Thanks in advance!

  • @mrmrgaming
    @mrmrgaming Рік тому +2

    How is the card for coil whine? Many of the Asus and MSI cards are plagued with it. I have now tried 3xMSI, 2x Asus and 1xZotac. The Zotac had half the amount of coil whine, but the fans...well, fan motors were horrible.

  • @MaximusProxi
    @MaximusProxi Рік тому

    @O!Technology Hey having had enough time to look at the 4090 roster now, which card would you recommend in terms of build quality (pcb, cooler etc..) and performance?

  • @M3K1E
    @M3K1E Рік тому +1

    This isn't the first time we've seen 3 slot GPUs becoming norm nowadays. There are a few GPUs such as Gigabyte GTX 680 SOC, high end ASUS DirectCU II cards (GTX 580/680, HD 6970/7970), and Powercolor HD 7970 Red Devil having 3 slot just for either big cooler or intended to be more powerful than vanilla. Thanks for the review though!

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology  Рік тому +2

      Ofcourse but in this generation it seems its designs are 3-slots MINIMUM only. Thank you for your support!

  • @sinistar9044
    @sinistar9044 Рік тому

    Love to see a similar analysis on the Zotac Trinity and the Inno3d Xchill

    • @starofeden9277
      @starofeden9277 Рік тому

      dont bother with inno3d
      quality and vram is very lacking
      also fans makes more noise

  • @arthurfraga9107
    @arthurfraga9107 Рік тому

    I really wanted to know if the difference between the OC and SEM model, which card do you recommend that is very cold and silent? and if possible without coil whine

  • @andreyraichinets7383
    @andreyraichinets7383 Рік тому +5

    Спасибо вам за работу, лучший в этом сегменте! Жду общий свод всех видеокарт 4090)

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology  Рік тому +4

      You're welcome! Thank you for your support. The Which RTX 4090 to BUY video will come in a few days.

    • @RomanOrekhov
      @RomanOrekhov Рік тому

      @@OTechnology hi there! Is such a video still planned or do you have no time for such ambitious things anymore? :)

  • @isolatefn
    @isolatefn Рік тому +3

    i need the buyers guide as soon as possible. I can't make up my mind on which to get 😵‍💫

  • @notchipotle
    @notchipotle Рік тому +4

    I'll just admire how great the 4000 series are 🤣 used 3080Ti looks really good right now

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology  Рік тому +1

      I would get used 3090s if you're going that route. They're $700 ish and you get 24GB VRAM.

    • @N0N0111
      @N0N0111 Рік тому +6

      @@OTechnology 24GB VRAM is cool but Gamers don't need that yet, maybe in 3 years when we have 1TB sized games on UE5 with super high resolutions.

  • @Ghostyy202
    @Ghostyy202 Рік тому +1

    Hi can you make a review video on Maxsun rtx 3080 they are selling it for almost 30-40% less then the original price.

  • @TRX25EX
    @TRX25EX Рік тому +2

    I got Palit also and was wondering why it have 4 connectors (enables 600+W) but doesnt go beyond 560W in my case, however I saw its going beyond 3ghz then I noticed thats as much as Strix + FE reach anyway, so maybe that extra 100W is not needed anyway.
    one thing to try is to flash bios which I done before but with these new connectors maybe risky, wont do it now and I dont need it anyway, Palit have a good reviews how good it does in OCing hence I choose Palit over other offerings, as Strix too expensive, did also a power draw from wall test with 5800X and found with all USB devices working including Pimax VR headset and max was 709W from wall when both CPU + GPU under stress test and overclocked
    edit: btw 2 Strix reviewers managed around 200pts less Port Royal score than yours, I personally didnt try yet on mine as I just did +120mhz to core and 1000+ mhz to memory and called it a day for rest of this 4090 life lol

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology  Рік тому

      Yea it doesn’t really need more than 500W in actual games but in benchmarks it helps to increase the scores a little by not throttling at all.
      I’ve actually now shunt modded mine and got higher scores lol the VRM held up fine too so there’s that. It can hit 3045mhz sustained without throttling now but for sure consumes more power. You can probably do +1700mhz on the memory no problem on your card but the core offset is almost maxed anyways.

    • @TRX25EX
      @TRX25EX Рік тому +1

      @@OTechnology Yeah other reviewers who did Palit mentioned it have highest memory OC stability....
      Damn you already went and did shunt mode, if I was you I would have at least tried different bios flashing first like Strix or FE bios 🤣, but you took the higher risk one, I won't take any risk on mine, way too expensive to do it, I did on 3080 bios flashing many times but not this lol

    • @brzozx7651
      @brzozx7651 Рік тому

      @@TRX25EX and how it's going with your palit 4090 is it good card worth to buy?

  • @N0N0111
    @N0N0111 Рік тому +2

    Cool video, will wait patiently for all the 4090 models video for their power and cooling possibilities :)
    ps: Nvidia just officially kicked off Crypto mining 2.0 by removing LHR in the just released 522.25 driver, also all RTX 4090s are sold out and ebay has them at 2x and 3x prices.
    Jensen wins again, and gamers will cry a lot. "High PC Graphics Card Prices Are Here To Stay" - Jensen 2022

    • @hanswurst6742
      @hanswurst6742 Рік тому

      If you don't want jensen to win, buy an intel ARC. But ofc nobody wants to sacrifice hmself for the greater good

  • @I3loodyTV
    @I3loodyTV Рік тому

    got the 4070ti palit gamerock with annoying coilwhine and weird fan noise even on the losest speed i m wondering if the 4080/90 using better fans

  • @cdxer
    @cdxer Рік тому

    Can you please do a video on how to shunt mod?
    ways to do it
    performance expectations
    cautions
    good gpu candidates

  • @ek2who
    @ek2who Рік тому +1

    3x8 pin Gamerock Omniblack has the same board and in this case 16 phases is more than enough for sure. Running my unit at 2850 Mhz @ 985 mV and 400W. I spent 1800$ on it and feel sorry for those who paid 700$ more from the last saving for Strix or Suprim.

    • @smithyMcjoe
      @smithyMcjoe 9 місяців тому

      I know right? Mine arrived yesterday, the fact that some cards are still near or well over 2k is absurd!

  • @hironakama263
    @hironakama263 Рік тому +2

    Any noticeable fans noise?

  • @funtodovr5501
    @funtodovr5501 Рік тому +1

    What was GPU hotspot?

  • @thwu3174
    @thwu3174 Рік тому

    did anyone find on the end of the pcb there are places for two 8pin power connecters?

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology  Рік тому

      Yes there seems to be places to solder on 8-pin connectors.

  • @va02gaming
    @va02gaming 9 місяців тому

    Do you think it’s safe to flash the gamerock oc bios onto the none oc model? Is the hardware the same just different bios between the 2 models?

    • @OwlyEagle
      @OwlyEagle 9 місяців тому

      you're fine anyways since you have dual bios

  • @nb8c_fd
    @nb8c_fd Рік тому

    How do you turn off the RGB?

  • @chadthunder-cock3829
    @chadthunder-cock3829 Рік тому

    Man I really want this card but I can't find it anywhere it's so depressing

  • @sewerynlitwicki6742
    @sewerynlitwicki6742 Рік тому +1

    is this good card?

  • @d9xd425
    @d9xd425 Рік тому +1

    when I read "faster than 3090ti". my head is gonna explode holy goat!

  • @alvind.2435
    @alvind.2435 Рік тому +2

    That VRM power phase cost cutting will make me stay away from the Gamerock this gen. Only 16 phases? the others have a minimum of 20. Why Palit did this is strange. They have one of the best VRMs with the 30-series

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology  Рік тому +1

      I know I was quite dissatisfied too. Their 30 series had pretty great VRMs.

    • @interceptor001
      @interceptor001 Рік тому

      @@OTechnology Same for me. Looking elsewhere now.

  • @proteus5340
    @proteus5340 Рік тому

    What is LN2?

  • @raduardeleanu4800
    @raduardeleanu4800 Рік тому

    I got it in port royal at 25.528 and oc 26.157 but it scores less by 1k in timespy extreme.. its wierd.. im runing the ryzen 7950x ddr5 6000, hero 670e..
    I updated the bios on the Gamerock and its actually slower now, I wish I could put the old bios back !!!

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology  Рік тому

      Where did you get the updated bios?

    • @raduardeleanu4800
      @raduardeleanu4800 Рік тому

      @@OTechnology The oficial website

    • @raduardeleanu4800
      @raduardeleanu4800 Рік тому

      I got the old bios from tech power up and now im getting 19.757 so i`m happy again, anyway thanks for the video as you got me to upgrade to the Gamerock !

  • @va02gaming
    @va02gaming 9 місяців тому

    I have the phantom 4090 its exactly the same just different cooler shroud, all the people that go on about how bad it’s vrm ect is need to realise these cards in 99% of cases beat the strix and other such models, as for cooling it’s just as good as the strix

  • @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster
    @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster Рік тому +2

    I found the English version 😅.

  • @gggaminginc3200
    @gggaminginc3200 Рік тому +4

    The price and amount of power cables to run it is a massive turn off

    • @dr_lulz
      @dr_lulz Рік тому +2

      One power cable only on a ATX 3.0 Pcie 5 PSU.

  • @fahadal-asmari6893
    @fahadal-asmari6893 Рік тому +1

    Hi, Is it a true 3.0 slots card?

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology  Рік тому +2

      It’s almost 4 slots

    • @fahadal-asmari6893
      @fahadal-asmari6893 Рік тому

      @@OTechnology Okay so is there any true 3.0 slots 4090 model?, which model is the smallest?

  • @astreakaito5625
    @astreakaito5625 Рік тому +3

    graphic bricks!

    • @notchipotle
      @notchipotle Рік тому

      ikr, it's silly to call that a "card" 🤣

  • @salt-factory
    @salt-factory Рік тому +1

    How tf did you get the 4090 palit and also how much was it ?

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology  Рік тому +1

      It's a review sample

    • @salt-factory
      @salt-factory Рік тому

      @@OTechnology Ooh ok I was about to get a 4090 but I'm still waiting for the 4090 palit to be released , in my opinion is looks better than the other models.

    • @N0N0111
      @N0N0111 Рік тому

      @@OTechnology If they don't let you have the card after the GPU review, how will you manage to get one for MSRP now?

  • @xvnbm
    @xvnbm Рік тому

    Only 4090 card in my country, which fits into a smaller case.

  • @LDZTomek
    @LDZTomek Рік тому

    Anyone had a problem with artefacts with this card? Both the whole computer with this card couple weeks ago and after 1.5-2h of playing Assetto Corsa on triple full hd screen there are artefacts on one of the monitors 😢 I install new drivers and seem to be ok but tbh I don’t really believe it will solve the problem. Anyone can share an advice or experiences?

    • @kazuma2.0sato31
      @kazuma2.0sato31 День тому

      If an update solve the problem, thats it, otherwise, artifact can be specific game problem.

  • @Decki777
    @Decki777 Рік тому +1

    Very beautiful card too bad RTX 4090s are not available in my country

    • @notchipotle
      @notchipotle Рік тому

      not yet available or it will not be available ?

    • @Decki777
      @Decki777 Рік тому

      @@notchipotle it will be never available in my Country because of electronic products import ban. I should go to Singapore to buy the RTX 4090 but Flight ticket is cost alone over 1000 dollars so buying RTX 4090 is not worth it at all

    • @hyperninja5437
      @hyperninja5437 Рік тому

      @@Decki777 are u in north korea

    • @proteus5340
      @proteus5340 Рік тому

      Where are you from?

    • @insertname7458
      @insertname7458 11 місяців тому

      @@hyperninja5437 brazil probably i think its crazy taxes for anything they can get too

  • @AlterEGO836
    @AlterEGO836 Рік тому +1

    Your cpu is a bottleneck.
    Thanks for the Video 👌

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology  Рік тому +1

      I mean at the settings I run it at upgrading to a 12900K or a 7950X probably will make little difference.

  • @geeyan8162
    @geeyan8162 Рік тому

    graphic BRICK!That‘s right 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster
    @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster Рік тому

    RGB rainbow 🌈 vomit 🤢. Is my favorite…

  • @krystiankowarek6679
    @krystiankowarek6679 Рік тому

    Palit produces cards with a very weak power section and only when they change It, I will buy a card From them,if they do not start cards well,they do not want take this scrap.Yes it's Jus Asus strix kfa 2 hof can msi suprime x.

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology  Рік тому

      I agree the VRM is very disappointing. Then again in this gen it is not nearly as important as in the 30 series. But still I would recommend the other cards over this.

    • @emanggitulah4319
      @emanggitulah4319 Рік тому

      @@OTechnology the VRAM is not great? Or what are the negatives about this gpu?

    • @shawtdusanshawt
      @shawtdusanshawt Рік тому

      Well and what is the proce for Asus, MSI etc? 400-600 USD more.

    • @jokauk4995
      @jokauk4995 Рік тому

      @@OTechnologyhi, is it really that bad to get this ? will it last warranty period?

  • @killerloli8882
    @killerloli8882 Рік тому

    достаточно 2 косы по 2* 8 пин, стандарт проводов выдерживает на 2*8 пина - 300 Вт, 4*8 пин = 600 Вт? WTF? (300 Вт - это с запасом, если что) 16 стандарт проводов!

  • @gerrya4818
    @gerrya4818 Рік тому

    Watch buildzoids video on this card.. its garbage apparently

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology  Рік тому

      That's what I said too on the VRM.

    • @decadentshark9357
      @decadentshark9357 Рік тому +1

      If you use this card with no over clocking.. It will be fine surely won't just break within warranty?

    • @kazuma2.0sato31
      @kazuma2.0sato31 3 дні тому

      For 500W bios it's enough, even with 600w bios, the VRM itself enough, buildzoids just speak to much.. as always...