Tekken 7 - Pokes, Frame Data & Sidesteps
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- This tutorial aims to demystify Poking, Sidestepping and Frame Data, while also covering fundamentals such as counter hit baiting, hit confirming, putting moves in sequences, and why Tekken is not played in "turns".
Which direction to sidestep: tekkengamer.com...
Tekken 7 Frame Data: rbnorway.org/T7...
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All music was from the Tekken 4 soundtrack
Outro music is the Capcom vs SNK Menu Theme by Satoshi Ise
Correction: At 05:30 if Shaheen does two df+1s in a sequence, he'll be able to block Claudio's Powercrush in time for a -12 block punish, unless it's slightly delayed. Generally PCs lose out to compact moves like df+1, as covered in the next video in the series on the Crush System: ua-cam.com/video/AvnDpz_lmEI/v-deo.html
Decent video, but I think you need to focus more on sidestepping after performing a wider variety of attacks. Furthermore I think you should focus much more on sidestepping to setup a launch whiff punish. Also, I think you are focusing far too much on counter stunning rather than block punishing.
Man! This tutorial is beautiful!
dude you should make more tekken videos you are the best teacher for far
Learning is power. You're a phenomenal teacher, Salami. My hat's off to you!
These tutorials are the best, especialy for a noob like me. Everything is explained so carefuly. Also great editing with all the slow-mos.
Cheers Ninjesus! (amazing name btw)
Still a lot of technical language, usually in move notation. Like, WTF is a magic 4? Keep saying it like it's self evident.
Yea had the exact same thought.
@@brandonbrown6922 Magic 4 is when the neutral standing right kick gets a launch when it counter hits. These are usually very fast, 11 or 12 frames.
These are some of the most helpful videos I've seen. They make decision making seem far less daunting. Lacking full understanding of the intricacies of the game, it can seem bewildering trying to figure out what to do. These videos are kinda giving me a little more confidence in what I'm doing when I go into practice mode and try moves out in real matches. The game is less complicated than it seems, while still being technical enough to be satisfying.
Reading a comment like this is a big "Mission Accomplished" for us. We've all been there, bewildered by these massive movelists, how to approach the game correctly, and what kind of mentality to adopt.
Tekken's a bit of a grind to get into at first, but so rewarding once you "get it". We hope these guides make climbing those initial hurdles a little easier.
Thanks for making these tutorials, they're really helping me out!
Happy to hear that!
That Blasted Salami Good Stuff
I started Tekken 10 months ago and "didn't bother" to watch videos like this until now and didn't learn much about my characters either but now my eyes have finally been opened how the game works and how to start really learning it. Excellent guide
This video has shown me a glimpse to how hard it will be to menage playing both T7 and my other fighting games (mainly GG) as I can now see some huge differences in game design that lead to a whole different approach.
Also, the way you quoted Novriltataki made me smile as I love both of your channels because of the same reason: how clear you both are for learning :)
I think once you understand one fighting game, picking up another is much easier. But yeah 3d fighters do require a different mentality.
Novril's channel was actually one of the big inspirations behind this one. He's a very cool guy. Often gives me useful feedback on videos and suggestions for future ones. You may even see a collaboration at some point ;)
I wonder if we'll ever find out where that blasted salami is...
Well, kinda X-men 90s show on going joke. Check it out
Well, it used to be in my pants until a nasty firework accident....
this guide is incredible it actually scares me as it points out how much of even just the basic neutral game i have to learn looking forward to more knowledge in the future
This one of the best series of tutorials there is for Tekken. I wish the game had tutorials to teach noobs like me this stuff, but it doesn't, so the work of folks such as yourselves is greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Glad you found it useful! :)
Wow. The Pokes and pairs section of the video is freaking AMAZING. Thats why their able to dodge my jabs online( where theres mild lag) there not TIMING, they are doing a premeditated dodge. This has been very revealing to me.
I cannot put into words how proficient these tutorials are. Well made, very helpful and structured clearly. With all the editing, cinematic and information displayed on screen it makes the video engaging, captivating and coherent.
Definitely the best guides I've seen on youtube, I could watch these all day compared to most other guides which have me clicking out the video prematurely due to how unorganized they are. Such a blessing to have videos like this to explain the mechanics of such a labyrinthine game. I really look forward to all your future Tekken 7 videos.
Besides learning how to back dash and whiff punish, this is by far the most useful tutorial I've ever seen.
The term "taking turns" is misleading but I can see where it's coming from. The more the frame situation is in your favor, the more valid options you have as the next action of choice, and less valid options the opponent has for the next action of choice.
It's actually kind of the perfect phrase to describe frame advantage, but this comment is also four years old so
Wow! This is a HIGH LEVEL tutorial! Thanks and keep up the great work!
Bo Miles high level tutorial done in a way that even low level players can understand.
Really well done man.
The best video tutorial I have seen so far. This freaking helped me a lot especially because of the fact that I use Law as one of my mains. Hope to see more tutorial, thumbs up!
I've watched DOZENS of Tekken guide videos over the years, and they all pale in comparison to this. Wish this was around when I was newer. Still helped me greatly.
Holy shit! I never realized how perfect Tekken 4's beach stage track is as a friendly tutorial jingle. Excellent guide btw! This channel is just what the doctor ordered!
I am baffled by the quality content you are putting out and the sheer amount of knowledge I gather from it. Keep up what you are doing and you will get loads of subscribers - you sure as hell deserve it.
As a 10th dan kazuya player who has fairly extensive Tekken 5 experience (though limited to non-existent Tekken 6 and tag 2 experience), this was an EXTREMELY helpful video. To my experience, sidestepping was horribly unreliable (getting tracked by hits that reoriented mid-string) or simply getting hit by the move anyway. I thought I was getting the timing wrong. This video helps a lot, especially the tip on which direction to sidestep in. Now a whole new dimension should open up with ss -> ewgf for me.
Thanks bunch for the video!
I'm glad you found it helpful! Simply adding a sidestep or backdash before a move can give it so much more utility.
Pretty cool. I've always heard people throwing this "poking" term but never really found anyone talking about it in more detail. That's gotta be useful for me to step up my Kazumi game.
This is the type of channel that comes into your mind whenever someone says "high quality content".
Came to watch this video and really glad to say that the frame problems has been significantly improved!!
I've been dying for a Video explaining the frames concept in Tekken with no hope of finding one until today where this Video got recommended for me... And what a video it was ... Thank you man thank you very much.
Dude this is one of, if not the best tutorial I have come across for myself personally(Law main) as a new Tekken player. I just leveled up so much from this alone. SUBBED.
Thank you so much man!
You guys deserve so many more views and subs. Not to name anybody, but we have other people putting up unedited raw twitch streams as tutorial / guides. I really appreciate the time you guys take to edit and make these videos presentable in a clear fashion for us newbies. Thank you!
Thanks for the vid this really shows why Tekken is based on martial arts the fundamentals of side stepping when being jabbed or df+1
Holy crap this is a top quality video, well done. This is easily one of the better instructional videos out there, not just isolated to Tekken 7. Especially the end proving the context, and being an example of the entire video is extremely well done.
I know this is a 2 year old video, I don't care. The quality impressed me.
Never been more useful to be a lee main until I watched this video haha good work, had to sub
Yep all of which was covered in this vid perfectly applies to Lee too. Glad to have you aboard :)
I'm surprised this only had 20k views considering the quality of presentation and value of information provided.
Man...
Your and Core-A Gaming's tutorials and explanations of fighting game concepts has helped me SO much...
(Apologies if cross promoting a separate channel isn't cool; they're both so good lol)
Thanks to this channel, I'm a happy Josie main learning a turtle-ing/rushdown style.
Great channel, man.
I'm pretty happy to learn from your videos, as a 2d fighting game player, i'm completely lost with the 3d possibilities from tekken, and videos like these and some character's breakdowns help me a lot to understand the matchup, thank you very much :)
@That Blasted Salami congratulations you just explained JDCR... watching your videos i do have to say that i was aware of the things in your videos but it was like blurred and unexplained. but now i can say i have a complete understanding All because of you guys... Good Job brother
Glad to hear that! Thank you for the kind words.
The depth of details in all your videos is simply making me speechless.... hats off!!!
And BTW i am still going to smash the buttons on my turn lol😂
Great video - I've been watching a lot and trying to understand how the flow of attacks, blocks, and lows go together, but this is the first one that really made it click for me!
So glad to have your account back up because this video (and your other videos) are a tremendous help for my first "serious" Tekken! Keep up the good work, and I look forward to your future content.
I've been waiting for this vid. Awesome break down of the game's mechanics. I love you content and can't wait for the next vid!
I'm new to Tekken and all of the depth and complexity of this game is shocking and overwhelming. That said, I love it and it inspires me to learn all of the mechanics.
Some good old Tekken 4 soundtrack
This is might be the first deepest tutorial i've ever seen since today ! Great job man !
This tutorial is the best Ive seen so far. It definitely gave me some idea on how to start offense. I'm looking forward to more videos man well done.
I’m currently trying to get into tekken and am really loving the structure and the quality of your videos
Paul and Law running from that blasted frame data, rofl, good touch!
I really apreciate the professional style of these tutorials! You got something above the rest going on here! Thanks!
Cheers Hank! Do you have any sugar around here?
By far the most educational tekken channel because of your videos i switched to Katarina wich allowed me to have fun in the game dispite a physical disabillity but i was playing 30 mins ago and got rekt by df1 spam :)
appreciate the tekken 4 music. flawed game but had consistently good music and the coolest character select screen ever in the series imo.
Some of the most excellent and easy to understand tekken videos I've ever seen,keep up the good work
Thank you very much!
Watching in 2023 & found information not usually talked about. Thanks for talking about the rule of two. I've been following you & Novril for a long time. Great production values both of you. On that note, can you tell me which video of Novril's talks about the rule of two ??? I've seen him a lot but ACPR never interested me, so, I don't know which video contains that info ...
Here we are: ua-cam.com/video/PACuKeClDCQ/v-deo.html
Novril's a great video maker, but he took a break recently to focus on his personal life. Hope he gets back to it whenever he feels ready.
@@ThatBlastedSalami Thanks for helping out! You made my day!
Really cool video because it focuses on actual fundamentals rather than just command inputs, it'll be helpful for me to learn this game. Thanks.
What exactly is a magic 4? Also your tutorials are amazing. Thank you so much for making them!
Thank you! A magic 4 is a fast (11-12 frame) high kick that launches on counter hit. Good for both frame traps and keepout. We also cover it here: ua-cam.com/video/weR0poIEkKE/v-deo.html
After watching this video i gained a much better understanding of Tekken overall and i greatly appreciate your efforts in making this video. Im curious though about that clip from one of NovrilTatakis videos talking about thinking of Airdashing fightng games in sequences rather than separate moves which specific video did you get that from?
Glad to hear it!
The video is mentioned in the cards in the top right, but here's the link anyway: ua-cam.com/video/PACuKeClDCQ/v-deo.html
Can we take a moment to appreciate our man drawing a karate animation in a flipbook? 1:36
This is like a documentary for Tekken skills...amazing!
Top Notch tutorial! Superb editing and incredibly informative. It is much appreciated.
Awesome guide dude i really love the fact that you put some spirit in it and not only mathematics. Thanks a lot !
Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome tutorial! The best and most thorough i have ever seen! Thanks for sharing!
Cheers! My pleasure.
I've been here since tekken 1 and consider myself a fairly advanced player, but I got alot out of this thanks friend. You've earned a subscriber :)
Also I just subscribed
one of the most practical tutorials out there and also the editing is beautiful seems really professional and not like other tutorials
The slow motion in this video made me realize just how beautiful tekken animation is. Makes characters in Mortal Kombat look like robots.
oh yeah, Tekken's animation is fantastic. some of the veteran characters' moves have been using the same keyframes since Tekken 1; they're so well made, they still hold up with modern tech upgrades.
This tutorial is awesome dude
I'm sure it's really helping the newbies out. Keep up the good work
Cheers!
Doing amazing job guys, for newcomers like me, thank you so much. Though I do feel that it should be the game's developer's job to explain all this. For example if you go to MK11 tutorial menu, each character has their own tutorials plus frame data is explained and much more, I hope Tekken 8 will have that.
I'm watching this even though I played Tekken since Tekken 2. It's good stuff.
You made tekken a game I can actually play now. Thank you, I can’t express in words what this means to me
So glad to hear this. Please let us know if you have any questions 👍
great video man!! just started with tekken 7 havent played tekken since tekken 2 and 3 and im loving it and your character overview helped me alot choose my character. i been playing bryan and jack 7 and gigas fun characters
Amazing video, an idea for your next video, could you explain Punishing in depth, Counter hits and when to use them and how to play against a spammer.
Thank you! Punishing is something we'll cover on a character to character basis. How to bait counter hits was covered here. I'll also make a video on how to deal with specific types of opponents.
I watched this video 3 years ago when it release, I hit Tekken God Prime later and still rewatch this to remind myself of basics lol
Best Tekken tutorial video I've seen so far !
This is such an excellent tutorial. So much props.
Thanks!
your vids are getting better and better!
Everytime I hear Bit Crusher I instantly upvote.
loving this channel! i am learning to play miguel and wondering why there is virtually no guides for him, even the official tekken7 site doesnt have a movelise for him!
Miguel character breakdown is coming soon :)
The Miguel written guide is finished. Will videofy it soon: www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=132429
This video is simply EXCELLENT!!! (Lee style) :)
Great tutorial! Everything was explained so well and the video was just great overall. You totally deserve more subs!
Thank you! We're still pretty new. Sure the subs will come in time :)
Jesus Christ I'm trying to watch the video but I keep getting thrown back all the time by that fresh Tekken 4 music
This looks gorgeous in slow-mo!
The input lag in the PS4 is quite annoying indeed. That plus the lag itself in some matches makes it pretty difficult to guess and react...
Holy !!! this open the whole new dimension for me. Thank you!
Really glad to hear that! Let us know if the video helped you out in matches.
Just waiting for more tutorials its great for new players who start from tekken 7, thx alot
They're coming! Glad you like them.
Well I'm stupid as hell, that famedata explanation just flew right over my head
This is the true indepth guide. I love your voice again. 😊
Great music coming in at around 2:50 is it from Tekken 5?
Your tutorials are fascinating just the way i like when it comes to teaching keep it up
There is sooo much information! I might have to watch it a few more times if I want to absorb all of it! Liked and subbed!
These tutorials are so awesome and well made, although it's a bit too advanced for me. Can we have more basic tutorials like a video how to get up? I still don't know how to do this stylish kick up move when falling. I'm pretty sure it was in the game since Tekken 5 or something, but still don't know how to do it. lol
I'd like to do a video focusing on the ground game soon. The input you're looking for is 3+4 (both kicks) while on the floor. The input used to be b+3+4. It's received a significant buff in speed for T7.
You could say this video is... Excellent. (Couldn't help myself)
Another top notch tutorial. Keep up the great work!
Coming from SFV this video is really helpful. Im still in a turn.based mindset when i play T7, gotta break the habits
Patiently waiting for a Steve/Jin tutorial.
What about in the middle of a fight? How does it occur to you "ah, I can punish that"? As a beginner I'm finding myself getting destroyed by moves I don't expect to string together, or moves that end up having quicker recovery (?) than I would expect when I'm trying to punish.
Just experience and knowledge. Don't worry, it takes time to get good at Tekken. Just enjoy yourself and take it step by step.
Great video! Although I will say that tekken, in my opinion, is somewhat of a turn based game. An action such as side stepping is taking "your turn" and is a commitment of sort. Albeit it is hard to notice "taking turns" in this game due to the fact that you can move freely on the plane. Unlike SF and MK.
How many minus frames on block is too much to be unable to sidestep? In the vid you showed a move with -1. Would you be able to sidestep away if you did a move with -8 on block?
Good question. It depends on the move you're trying to step, but generally:
-1 to -3: Ok if done in the correct direction
-4 to -6: Case by case
-7 to -9: SS likely won't work
These tutorial videos are awesome. Keep them coming =)
Thanks man! A bunch of videos are in the oven :)
Core-A gaming and Desk never shout out to you !!
Which they should've !!
I always want Tekken Tips channel like this!!
Thank you for making these tutorial.
I'm back and watch this tutorial again.
Even though I already know what it is.. but this tutorial is just too good.
I need to watch again.
This video is beautiful. Especially the end
Incredibly well done!
You know your Tekken! Bravo.
Most GOATED video.
This tutorial is so good. Thank you.
These tutoriales are awesome, i hope you can cover the korean backdash and how to punish as of result of its good use, thanks men.
Fantastic tutorial