Bro, love that last name. They should name a machine after you, it would sound badass. The Tormach 1100 Pulvermacher. Higher speeds, higher feeds, pulverizing material.
Gotta say the Tomach machine has been great for 5+yrs and the support is 2nd to none. Out of every company I've ever had a problem with, Tormach surpassed them all. I had an issue, and Tormach made it so right that I placed another order to support them.
Steel demos specifically would be appreciated. I remember reading a quote a few years ago about setting up a shop: 'if you have to choose between getting a 'better' spindle or more spindles - always go for more spindles. With product launch fast approaching I'll need to look into this further ESPECIALLY with the servo driven machines in the pipeline.
Did the machine motion stop automatically when the load got too high? I noticed the spindle kept turning when the motion stopped. Great video by the way. Thanks
Wow, 4 in^3 min. I haven't been anywhere near that with my new 770M. How long do those inserts last? Using a 3 flt APKT, getting about 1.2 in^3/min max.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm just starting a Prototype shop myself. Trying to nail down the "Standard Tool List". Spent all my cash on the machine. Would love to get 4.0 in^3/min, but question the shear hog cost and insert life.
APKT inserts aren’t the best for aluminum to begin with; they’re not great for any material, really. The geometry doesn’t have a lot of natural shear built into it. With indexable tools in weaker & lower HP machines, you really have to use cutter geometry to your advantage and play with sharper cutting edges. By nature, solid end mills will cut much more freely when compared with a pressed carbide insert, until you get into a tool similar to this, which is then really only good for non ferrous materials.
The coolant was left off for filming and testing. It is good practice to machine aluminum with coolant, but you can machine it dry successfully with good toolpath strategies and tooling.
Tormach is trying to stay in the Hobby market. A more powerful spindle will be heavier, and thus need a different larger machine to put it in. At that point, you breached your price range that is too far into the market of the Haas Minimill, so most people would rather get that, if their goal is Horsepower. The controller alone will be handle a lot more than what PathPilot can do.
gredangeo that's not true. A more powerful spindle isn't necessarily heavier. The machine is sturdy enough to cope with the forces of higher spindle loads, obviously we just saw it in the video. I get that they are trying to stay in a hobby market, and someone else once told me its because of single phase power in most homes in the US, but then atleast offer a more powerful one?!
@@nils1953 They do in the 1100 - I believe its now a 2HP spindle vs. the 1.5 in the 770. You could also easily augment with a different BLDC motor yourself, which has been a thought of mine... Like you, I dont think rigidity is the issue at all. Cutter bog is the power of the machine and it could definitely handle more. That said - these removal rates are awesome as is. I cant think of a situation where id realistically NEED it, but I definitely want it. More power is always fun.
Bro, love that last name. They should name a machine after you, it would sound badass. The Tormach 1100 Pulvermacher. Higher speeds, higher feeds, pulverizing material.
We like how you think! But would that name just be too intimidating? Or should we go with it?
Gotta say the Tomach machine has been great for 5+yrs and the support is 2nd to none. Out of every company I've ever had a problem with, Tormach surpassed them all. I had an issue, and Tormach made it so right that I placed another order to support them.
Thank you for your nice comments of our machines and our Tormach Support Team! Everyone at Tormach is very happy they are serving you well!
Steel demos specifically would be appreciated. I remember reading a quote a few years ago about setting up a shop: 'if you have to choose between getting a 'better' spindle or more spindles - always go for more spindles. With product launch fast approaching I'll need to look into this further ESPECIALLY with the servo driven machines in the pipeline.
How does the 2 flute mini shear compare to the traditional single flute shear hog in terms of vibration, noise, MMR & tool life?
haha @NYCCNC SWM modvices and tool plate for the win!
Good stuff, thanks for sharing!
How much of a difference would be if there was coolant introduced? Can you go faster?
Coolant is always beneficial when cutting aluminum, but we were running test cuts and left it off for filming.
Saunders plates going to be standard on the new machines?
Is there an upgrade for the spindle motor?
Did the machine motion stop automatically when the load got too high? I noticed the spindle kept turning when the motion stopped. Great video by the way. Thanks
The machine motion was stopped manually by using the feed hold button.
Wow, 4 in^3 min. I haven't been anywhere near that with my new 770M. How long do those inserts last? Using a 3 flt APKT, getting about 1.2 in^3/min max.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm just starting a Prototype shop myself. Trying to nail down the "Standard Tool List". Spent all my cash on the machine. Would love to get 4.0 in^3/min, but question the shear hog cost and insert life.
APKT inserts aren’t the best for aluminum to begin with; they’re not great for any material, really. The geometry doesn’t have a lot of natural shear built into it. With indexable tools in weaker & lower HP machines, you really have to use cutter geometry to your advantage and play with sharper cutting edges. By nature, solid end mills will cut much more freely when compared with a pressed carbide insert, until you get into a tool similar to this, which is then really only good for non ferrous materials.
Any good Shear-Hog or Mini-Shear recipes for the 440?
The PCNC 440 has 3/4 HP vs the 1.5 HP on the 770M. I would keep the same depth of cut but reduce the width of cut or feed rate.
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Is okay to cut aluminium without coolant?
The coolant was left off for filming and testing. It is good practice to machine aluminum with coolant, but you can machine it dry successfully with good toolpath strategies and tooling.
Man it really hurts how the spindle power is holding the machine back..
Tormach is trying to stay in the Hobby market. A more powerful spindle will be heavier, and thus need a different larger machine to put it in. At that point, you breached your price range that is too far into the market of the Haas Minimill, so most people would rather get that, if their goal is Horsepower. The controller alone will be handle a lot more than what PathPilot can do.
gredangeo that's not true.
A more powerful spindle isn't necessarily heavier.
The machine is sturdy enough to cope with the forces of higher spindle loads, obviously we just saw it in the video.
I get that they are trying to stay in a hobby market, and someone else once told me its because of single phase power in most homes in the US, but then atleast offer a more powerful one?!
@@nils1953 They do in the 1100 - I believe its now a 2HP spindle vs. the 1.5 in the 770. You could also easily augment with a different BLDC motor yourself, which has been a thought of mine... Like you, I dont think rigidity is the issue at all. Cutter bog is the power of the machine and it could definitely handle more. That said - these removal rates are awesome as is. I cant think of a situation where id realistically NEED it, but I definitely want it. More power is always fun.
Horsepower is only one consideration in machining; the Tormach machine itself can only support the effective use of so much horsepower.
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Anyone here tried it in plastics?
Sure have, the mini-shear and shear-hog both work well in any non ferrous or non metallic materials.