2021 Joseph Smith Lecture: Dallin H. Oaks

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2024

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  • @GregoryDibb
    @GregoryDibb 2 роки тому +46

    This quote should be at the top of every UA-cam comment section (including this one): "We should make very effort to understand the experiences and concerns of others, especially when they differ from our own. We must not be part of ... a culture of contempt, a habit of seeing those who disagree with us not as merely incorrect or misguided, but as worthless...When some advocates voice insults or practice other minor provocations, both sides should ignore them. Our society already has too many ugly confrontations."

  • @carolswarbrick1722
    @carolswarbrick1722 2 роки тому +4

    I have watched this only twice so far. So much wisdom, is opened to my mind in the understanding of many avenues of law and fairness in law and for all citizens. I may be from another country but our values and respect must have a common understanding. Great dignity is given. 🇬🇧

  • @leisurelane1
    @leisurelane1 2 роки тому +15

    I really enjoyed the message of love and respect among all citizens. Ignore the extremes and collaborate for the betterment of all. A beautiful anthem.

  • @stevensalisbury7913
    @stevensalisbury7913 2 роки тому +11

    believe "according to the dictates of [their] own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."

  • @JennyG.COW5
    @JennyG.COW5 2 роки тому +1

    I'm so grateful for the Lord's awareness of Religious Liberty and that God has President Oaks as our Church's representative. 😊🕊️🙏💒
    I am also grateful for the many representatives in the audience who are as concerned about this topic as much as we are right now! Thank you! 😊🙏🕊️💒✡️✝️☪️🕉️🔯☦️☸️⛪🕍🛐

  • @dr.lmcconnell3463
    @dr.lmcconnell3463 2 роки тому +3

    Please make this downloadable. One cannot listen to this only once :)

  • @corybritton1966
    @corybritton1966 10 місяців тому +1

    Just goes to show you can be an educated man and be 100% totally spiritually blind to truth

  • @ClintK.
    @ClintK. 2 роки тому +14

    Truly admirable man and one called and lead by God.

  • @deerjerkydave
    @deerjerkydave 2 роки тому +5

    Translation: libertarianism is the solution. I don't tell you what to do and you don't tell me what to do and we respect our differences. Sadly I think the Federalists have grown so big that libertarianism isn't much of an option. There is too much power at stake at the Federal level which turns it into an ugly battle as each side fights over control.
    Sadly the Federal courts have contributed heavily to the problem by allowing extra-constitutional power grabs by politicians. In fact politicians have learned it is far easier to get a Federal court to allow unconstitutional powers than to pass constitutional amendments, and why we rarely see efforts anymore by politicians to propose amendments.
    The solution is a drastic return to a minimalist Federal government as intended. James Madison said the powers of the Federal government are "few and defined." Would you agree with this statement today?

  • @stevensalisbury7913
    @stevensalisbury7913 2 роки тому +5

    Hateful comments for a speech trying to accommodate our differences. Can't we come together and listen to each other? Nothing is absolute in our pleuritistic society and some accommodation on both sides is needed. Let them

  • @zon3665
    @zon3665 Рік тому +1

    Matthew 23:8

  • @johnmortality
    @johnmortality 2 роки тому +1

    But wouldn't it be better if we believed in the bible as the word of God, being Mormons and all. Why not be a man like Paul, who could write the words of Romans 1 to people who lived among the Romans? Why not be a man like Moses who could reveal the words of Leviticus 18 to people who had grown up controlled by the Egyptians? At the very least, why not preach their words? When such characters have roamed the earth, should we be among those who hold up their sacrifice and reveal their words anew with bold testimony of their truthfulness instead of burying their words and excusing the people from doing the same?

  • @raeannaroylance5401
    @raeannaroylance5401 2 роки тому +1

    🎯

  • @jedidiahsojourner1917
    @jedidiahsojourner1917 2 роки тому +3

    I'm still trying to understand the details of the mountain meadow massacre.

    • @deerjerkydave
      @deerjerkydave 2 роки тому +2

      Major John Lee of the 4th Battalion, of his own accord attacked a wagon train in 1877 murdering everyone except the children. John Lee and his cohorts were excommunicated and John was executed for his crimes.

    • @ningenJMK
      @ningenJMK 2 роки тому

      @@deerjerkydave of his own accord? You really think that? Lol

    • @deerjerkydave
      @deerjerkydave 2 роки тому

      @@ningenJMK Yes Lee's colleagues wanted directions from Salt Lake on how to deal with the wagon train. A messenger was sent but before they returned Lee ambushed the wagon train. What was the response from Salt Lake when it finally arrived? Leave the wagon train alone.

  • @byudude2
    @byudude2 2 роки тому +14

    Where is the live version that was posted yesterday? It had the Q&A as well as the break at the halfway point. I appreciated both of these.

    • @uthinkiamhot
      @uthinkiamhot 2 роки тому +11

      Oaks doesn't do well off script. He lies too much. The comment section was probably blowing up.

    • @uthinkiamhot
      @uthinkiamhot 2 роки тому +2

      ua-cam.com/video/5F92V-P9msQ/v-deo.html

    • @alicruz4900
      @alicruz4900 2 роки тому +8

      Thank you for bringing up a valid point. The Church censors so much material as they have historically done in the past with talks from different general authorities

    • @jamesmccluskey8055
      @jamesmccluskey8055 2 роки тому

      @@alicruz4900 Hi, you Anti-Mormon gaslighting troll.

    • @alicruz4900
      @alicruz4900 2 роки тому

      @@jamesmccluskey8055 lol. Do some digging. You'll find out for yourself. The Mormon church does not care about you.

  • @lorihall3368
    @lorihall3368 2 роки тому +2

    Some people have lovable personalities no matter what.
    I think it's up to us to find lovableness to respond to positively
    So that we can encourage good will
    But also balance ourselves to 💂‍♂️ 💂‍♀️
    Our virtue as our life.

  • @jeremysmith9694
    @jeremysmith9694 2 роки тому +11

    I guess they should change their name from Mormon studies now to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints studies.

    • @charlesmendeley9823
      @charlesmendeley9823 2 роки тому

      And the Book of Mormon to "The Book of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints". And the Mormon Tabernacle choir to "The Tabernacle choir of Jesus Christ of latter day saints".

    • @jeremysmith9694
      @jeremysmith9694 2 роки тому

      @@charlesmendeley9823 I think they did change the name of the choir

  • @Sunset-chaser777
    @Sunset-chaser777 2 роки тому

    He’s pretty spry for a man his age. An eloquent speaker with excellent points, it’s unfortunate: the “kids of SSM” policy will haunt his organization for decades to come. None of the upper management has copped to the fact that the policy was not divinely inspired.

  • @Cyrusmagi
    @Cyrusmagi 2 роки тому +8

    Perhaps a rather long winded version of" Live and let live "
    However for a man of 89 he has an elegant and profound understanding of law and constitution.
    Perhaps he has been misuderstood at times and the non discriminators have mis judged him. Or he has changed his attitude to some minorities because he wants a mutual respectful and practical outcome for all concerned without supreme law intervention.
    He does not tell the full truth all the time he has a convenient memory I suspect, well he trained and is a lawyer. Even Jesus did not trust them!

    • @KnuttyEntertainment
      @KnuttyEntertainment 2 роки тому

      He used to be a Supreme Court justice. A friend of Anthony Scalia.

    • @fredkelbert1913
      @fredkelbert1913 2 роки тому

      He doesn’t “sit on the fence” between “Church doctrine,” and matters pertaining to “Secular law.” What he’s trying to do is “build bridges of understanding” between the expectations of both camps, as you stated “Live and Let Live.” Your implication that he can’t be trusted to tell the “full truth” isn’t fair. God would certainly let him know if he wasn’t candid enough in his talks. Like all of the apostles of the Church of Jesus Christ, he gets God’s “approval” on his speeches “before” he delivers them.

    • @Cyrusmagi
      @Cyrusmagi 2 роки тому

      @@fredkelbert1913 what utter crap. He is no more connected to God than the Pope is which is not that much but since your either a convert or born into lds you believe anything about your particular organisation. You treat yr apostles like Gods which is a mistake there just men with a mission!

    • @phillipcook3430
      @phillipcook3430 10 місяців тому

      @@Cyrusmagiyour generalized statements are completely false. You either live in a bubble or have not expanded your experiences with LDS members.

  • @ningenJMK
    @ningenJMK 2 роки тому +18

    Oaks lied. He was President of BYU during the electroshock barbarism.

    • @katietodd9295
      @katietodd9295 2 роки тому +5

      @@llnotkoolj2041 he needs to address the truth first. You can’t apologize without admitting you were wrong.

    • @tuckernielson1
      @tuckernielson1 2 роки тому +1

      @@llnotkoolj2041 An apology would be nice.

    • @copisetic1104
      @copisetic1104 2 роки тому

      Apostate’s go bother and harass the Muslims and give them your name and address. Come on step up and be a man.

    • @ningenJMK
      @ningenJMK 2 роки тому

      @@llnotkoolj2041 the apostle lied, boy.

    • @ningenJMK
      @ningenJMK 2 роки тому

      @@copisetic1104 yeah you're brilliant there. As a lifelong Mormon I should not criticize leaders of my faith until I have criticized leaders in another.
      You must be in MENSA.

  • @katherineburford7864
    @katherineburford7864 2 роки тому

    Forbidding voters on long lines from being given transportation to the polls or water on line and gerrymandering minorities out of a chance to elect their peers must result in challenge more than simple agreeable passive manners and reconciliation. At some point, you must say yes to no. Accommodation of white religionists historically has meant injury to black religionists.

  • @MichaelMorriseT
    @MichaelMorriseT 2 роки тому +2

    Nope. Anti discrimination law is unconstitutional.

  • @alpinemotel7974
    @alpinemotel7974 2 роки тому +4

    All this -- coming from a man who belongs to a church where God changed His mind about black people in 1978.

  • @banyantree86
    @banyantree86 2 роки тому +13

    "Accomodating and supporting" the gay community? Uh, yeah...not gonna happen. Elder Holland made that clear at BYU. Understanding others, or firing muskets at them? Mixed messages. As a "seer" in the LDS Church (one who peers into a rock), perhaps he needs to consult his peep stone for some clarification.

    • @glennlewman1377
      @glennlewman1377 2 роки тому +7

      Firing muskets? Did you listen to the speacj

    • @mtf88
      @mtf88 2 роки тому +7

      A person can accommodate and support but still not condone at the same time

    • @tuckernielson1
      @tuckernielson1 2 роки тому +1

      @@mtf88 Accommodate and support with 'Musket Fire'?

    • @mtf88
      @mtf88 2 роки тому +9

      @@tuckernielson1 Did you even listen to that talk? He unequivocally declares his love for those who struggle with the same sex challenge. He also says "As near as I can tell Christ never once withheld his love from anyone but he also never once said to anyone because i love you, you are exempt from keeping my commandments." Sounds like support to me 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @tuckernielson1
      @tuckernielson1 2 роки тому +1

      @@mtf88 user name checks out. /s

  • @LatterDayBean
    @LatterDayBean 2 роки тому +3

    When will the brethren realize the covid shot is bad?

  • @granite6510
    @granite6510 2 роки тому +9

    Tax religion. Problem solved.

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater 2 роки тому +6

      Tax Liberals.

    • @janedeloatch9939
      @janedeloatch9939 2 роки тому +2

      Unconstitutional as all taxes are

    • @tuckernielson1
      @tuckernielson1 2 роки тому +2

      @@tuckerbugeater Liberals ARE taxed, so are conservatives. Churches are not.

    • @dkearl6827
      @dkearl6827 2 роки тому +2

      Tax one non profit, then you must tax them all. Every PTA, every community organization, every hospital or medical faculty like MidTown clinic that offers no cost to low cost care for all. The tax argument is a red herring and should be recognized as a way to destroy every non profit.

    • @Sunset-chaser777
      @Sunset-chaser777 2 роки тому

      The problem is that the Mormon Organization is NOT non-profit!

  • @charlesmendeley9823
    @charlesmendeley9823 2 роки тому

    I liked how openly he talked about the affair / marriage of Joseph Smith and his maid Fanny Alger.

  • @kiquito
    @kiquito 2 роки тому +1

    Don't you just love how he has to have the big echo voice machine on?

  • @alecbaldwin8021
    @alecbaldwin8021 2 роки тому +2

    It really makes me mad when people call Joseph Smith a charlatan!
    So what if he made those gold plates in his garage.
    Also, so what if he made up a religion and was a lifetime grifter and liar. Also, so what if he made up the angel being named Moroni. It’s like, halfway between moron and macaroni. People should be able to make up whatever religions they want, it’s a free country.

    • @six1nyne
      @six1nyne 2 роки тому +1

      Amen.

    • @oshemer5066
      @oshemer5066 2 роки тому +4

      Hey Alec, fyi Joseph Smith didn't have a garage. That was a little after his time.

    • @pensadorcebr
      @pensadorcebr 2 роки тому +1

      Joseph believe in freedom. He state: "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."

    • @katherineburford7864
      @katherineburford7864 2 роки тому

      @@pensadorcebr Study Joseph Smith's truly misogynistic life. Own up to the actual history.

    • @phillipcook3430
      @phillipcook3430 10 місяців тому

      I am pretty confident Joseph Smith had more integrity in a small percentage of his persona than you do in your whole body. It’s easy as an antagonist to criticize someone for their weaknesses but what about their strengths. You accept a lot of the criticisms of Joseph but ignore all the amazing things he did and the legacy of the people that came after him. The things he taught are evidence to me that he was inspired in spite of the presentism that you use to judge the past. I hope your posterity is less harsh on your idiosyncrasies than you are on people that lived over 150 years ago. That being said, the history of Joseph is not clear cut, is highly disputed both good and bad but you still stand here criticizing someone in a different time with different standards. Even ten years from now societal standards will be different and your current behavior will be scrutinized 10 years from now.