This quote should be at the top of every UA-cam comment section (including this one): "We should make very effort to understand the experiences and concerns of others, especially when they differ from our own. We must not be part of ... a culture of contempt, a habit of seeing those who disagree with us not as merely incorrect or misguided, but as worthless...When some advocates voice insults or practice other minor provocations, both sides should ignore them. Our society already has too many ugly confrontations."
I have watched this only twice so far. So much wisdom, is opened to my mind in the understanding of many avenues of law and fairness in law and for all citizens. I may be from another country but our values and respect must have a common understanding. Great dignity is given. 🇬🇧
I really enjoyed the message of love and respect among all citizens. Ignore the extremes and collaborate for the betterment of all. A beautiful anthem.
I'm so grateful for the Lord's awareness of Religious Liberty and that God has President Oaks as our Church's representative. 😊🕊️🙏💒 I am also grateful for the many representatives in the audience who are as concerned about this topic as much as we are right now! Thank you! 😊🙏🕊️💒✡️✝️☪️🕉️🔯☦️☸️⛪🕍🛐
Translation: libertarianism is the solution. I don't tell you what to do and you don't tell me what to do and we respect our differences. Sadly I think the Federalists have grown so big that libertarianism isn't much of an option. There is too much power at stake at the Federal level which turns it into an ugly battle as each side fights over control. Sadly the Federal courts have contributed heavily to the problem by allowing extra-constitutional power grabs by politicians. In fact politicians have learned it is far easier to get a Federal court to allow unconstitutional powers than to pass constitutional amendments, and why we rarely see efforts anymore by politicians to propose amendments. The solution is a drastic return to a minimalist Federal government as intended. James Madison said the powers of the Federal government are "few and defined." Would you agree with this statement today?
Hateful comments for a speech trying to accommodate our differences. Can't we come together and listen to each other? Nothing is absolute in our pleuritistic society and some accommodation on both sides is needed. Let them
But wouldn't it be better if we believed in the bible as the word of God, being Mormons and all. Why not be a man like Paul, who could write the words of Romans 1 to people who lived among the Romans? Why not be a man like Moses who could reveal the words of Leviticus 18 to people who had grown up controlled by the Egyptians? At the very least, why not preach their words? When such characters have roamed the earth, should we be among those who hold up their sacrifice and reveal their words anew with bold testimony of their truthfulness instead of burying their words and excusing the people from doing the same?
Major John Lee of the 4th Battalion, of his own accord attacked a wagon train in 1877 murdering everyone except the children. John Lee and his cohorts were excommunicated and John was executed for his crimes.
@@ningenJMK Yes Lee's colleagues wanted directions from Salt Lake on how to deal with the wagon train. A messenger was sent but before they returned Lee ambushed the wagon train. What was the response from Salt Lake when it finally arrived? Leave the wagon train alone.
Thank you for bringing up a valid point. The Church censors so much material as they have historically done in the past with talks from different general authorities
Some people have lovable personalities no matter what. I think it's up to us to find lovableness to respond to positively So that we can encourage good will But also balance ourselves to 💂♂️ 💂♀️ Our virtue as our life.
And the Book of Mormon to "The Book of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints". And the Mormon Tabernacle choir to "The Tabernacle choir of Jesus Christ of latter day saints".
He’s pretty spry for a man his age. An eloquent speaker with excellent points, it’s unfortunate: the “kids of SSM” policy will haunt his organization for decades to come. None of the upper management has copped to the fact that the policy was not divinely inspired.
Perhaps a rather long winded version of" Live and let live " However for a man of 89 he has an elegant and profound understanding of law and constitution. Perhaps he has been misuderstood at times and the non discriminators have mis judged him. Or he has changed his attitude to some minorities because he wants a mutual respectful and practical outcome for all concerned without supreme law intervention. He does not tell the full truth all the time he has a convenient memory I suspect, well he trained and is a lawyer. Even Jesus did not trust them!
He doesn’t “sit on the fence” between “Church doctrine,” and matters pertaining to “Secular law.” What he’s trying to do is “build bridges of understanding” between the expectations of both camps, as you stated “Live and Let Live.” Your implication that he can’t be trusted to tell the “full truth” isn’t fair. God would certainly let him know if he wasn’t candid enough in his talks. Like all of the apostles of the Church of Jesus Christ, he gets God’s “approval” on his speeches “before” he delivers them.
@@fredkelbert1913 what utter crap. He is no more connected to God than the Pope is which is not that much but since your either a convert or born into lds you believe anything about your particular organisation. You treat yr apostles like Gods which is a mistake there just men with a mission!
@@copisetic1104 yeah you're brilliant there. As a lifelong Mormon I should not criticize leaders of my faith until I have criticized leaders in another. You must be in MENSA.
Forbidding voters on long lines from being given transportation to the polls or water on line and gerrymandering minorities out of a chance to elect their peers must result in challenge more than simple agreeable passive manners and reconciliation. At some point, you must say yes to no. Accommodation of white religionists historically has meant injury to black religionists.
"Accomodating and supporting" the gay community? Uh, yeah...not gonna happen. Elder Holland made that clear at BYU. Understanding others, or firing muskets at them? Mixed messages. As a "seer" in the LDS Church (one who peers into a rock), perhaps he needs to consult his peep stone for some clarification.
@@tuckernielson1 Did you even listen to that talk? He unequivocally declares his love for those who struggle with the same sex challenge. He also says "As near as I can tell Christ never once withheld his love from anyone but he also never once said to anyone because i love you, you are exempt from keeping my commandments." Sounds like support to me 🤷🏾♂️
Tax one non profit, then you must tax them all. Every PTA, every community organization, every hospital or medical faculty like MidTown clinic that offers no cost to low cost care for all. The tax argument is a red herring and should be recognized as a way to destroy every non profit.
It really makes me mad when people call Joseph Smith a charlatan! So what if he made those gold plates in his garage. Also, so what if he made up a religion and was a lifetime grifter and liar. Also, so what if he made up the angel being named Moroni. It’s like, halfway between moron and macaroni. People should be able to make up whatever religions they want, it’s a free country.
Joseph believe in freedom. He state: "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."
I am pretty confident Joseph Smith had more integrity in a small percentage of his persona than you do in your whole body. It’s easy as an antagonist to criticize someone for their weaknesses but what about their strengths. You accept a lot of the criticisms of Joseph but ignore all the amazing things he did and the legacy of the people that came after him. The things he taught are evidence to me that he was inspired in spite of the presentism that you use to judge the past. I hope your posterity is less harsh on your idiosyncrasies than you are on people that lived over 150 years ago. That being said, the history of Joseph is not clear cut, is highly disputed both good and bad but you still stand here criticizing someone in a different time with different standards. Even ten years from now societal standards will be different and your current behavior will be scrutinized 10 years from now.
This quote should be at the top of every UA-cam comment section (including this one): "We should make very effort to understand the experiences and concerns of others, especially when they differ from our own. We must not be part of ... a culture of contempt, a habit of seeing those who disagree with us not as merely incorrect or misguided, but as worthless...When some advocates voice insults or practice other minor provocations, both sides should ignore them. Our society already has too many ugly confrontations."
I have watched this only twice so far. So much wisdom, is opened to my mind in the understanding of many avenues of law and fairness in law and for all citizens. I may be from another country but our values and respect must have a common understanding. Great dignity is given. 🇬🇧
I really enjoyed the message of love and respect among all citizens. Ignore the extremes and collaborate for the betterment of all. A beautiful anthem.
believe "according to the dictates of [their] own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."
I'm so grateful for the Lord's awareness of Religious Liberty and that God has President Oaks as our Church's representative. 😊🕊️🙏💒
I am also grateful for the many representatives in the audience who are as concerned about this topic as much as we are right now! Thank you! 😊🙏🕊️💒✡️✝️☪️🕉️🔯☦️☸️⛪🕍🛐
Please make this downloadable. One cannot listen to this only once :)
Just goes to show you can be an educated man and be 100% totally spiritually blind to truth
Truly admirable man and one called and lead by God.
Amen
Dallin H Oaks is not a man led by God.
Translation: libertarianism is the solution. I don't tell you what to do and you don't tell me what to do and we respect our differences. Sadly I think the Federalists have grown so big that libertarianism isn't much of an option. There is too much power at stake at the Federal level which turns it into an ugly battle as each side fights over control.
Sadly the Federal courts have contributed heavily to the problem by allowing extra-constitutional power grabs by politicians. In fact politicians have learned it is far easier to get a Federal court to allow unconstitutional powers than to pass constitutional amendments, and why we rarely see efforts anymore by politicians to propose amendments.
The solution is a drastic return to a minimalist Federal government as intended. James Madison said the powers of the Federal government are "few and defined." Would you agree with this statement today?
Hateful comments for a speech trying to accommodate our differences. Can't we come together and listen to each other? Nothing is absolute in our pleuritistic society and some accommodation on both sides is needed. Let them
People just hate being con'ed.
Matthew 23:8
But wouldn't it be better if we believed in the bible as the word of God, being Mormons and all. Why not be a man like Paul, who could write the words of Romans 1 to people who lived among the Romans? Why not be a man like Moses who could reveal the words of Leviticus 18 to people who had grown up controlled by the Egyptians? At the very least, why not preach their words? When such characters have roamed the earth, should we be among those who hold up their sacrifice and reveal their words anew with bold testimony of their truthfulness instead of burying their words and excusing the people from doing the same?
🎯
I'm still trying to understand the details of the mountain meadow massacre.
Major John Lee of the 4th Battalion, of his own accord attacked a wagon train in 1877 murdering everyone except the children. John Lee and his cohorts were excommunicated and John was executed for his crimes.
@@deerjerkydave of his own accord? You really think that? Lol
@@ningenJMK Yes Lee's colleagues wanted directions from Salt Lake on how to deal with the wagon train. A messenger was sent but before they returned Lee ambushed the wagon train. What was the response from Salt Lake when it finally arrived? Leave the wagon train alone.
Where is the live version that was posted yesterday? It had the Q&A as well as the break at the halfway point. I appreciated both of these.
Oaks doesn't do well off script. He lies too much. The comment section was probably blowing up.
ua-cam.com/video/5F92V-P9msQ/v-deo.html
Thank you for bringing up a valid point. The Church censors so much material as they have historically done in the past with talks from different general authorities
@@alicruz4900 Hi, you Anti-Mormon gaslighting troll.
@@jamesmccluskey8055 lol. Do some digging. You'll find out for yourself. The Mormon church does not care about you.
Some people have lovable personalities no matter what.
I think it's up to us to find lovableness to respond to positively
So that we can encourage good will
But also balance ourselves to 💂♂️ 💂♀️
Our virtue as our life.
I guess they should change their name from Mormon studies now to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints studies.
And the Book of Mormon to "The Book of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints". And the Mormon Tabernacle choir to "The Tabernacle choir of Jesus Christ of latter day saints".
@@charlesmendeley9823 I think they did change the name of the choir
He’s pretty spry for a man his age. An eloquent speaker with excellent points, it’s unfortunate: the “kids of SSM” policy will haunt his organization for decades to come. None of the upper management has copped to the fact that the policy was not divinely inspired.
Perhaps a rather long winded version of" Live and let live "
However for a man of 89 he has an elegant and profound understanding of law and constitution.
Perhaps he has been misuderstood at times and the non discriminators have mis judged him. Or he has changed his attitude to some minorities because he wants a mutual respectful and practical outcome for all concerned without supreme law intervention.
He does not tell the full truth all the time he has a convenient memory I suspect, well he trained and is a lawyer. Even Jesus did not trust them!
He used to be a Supreme Court justice. A friend of Anthony Scalia.
He doesn’t “sit on the fence” between “Church doctrine,” and matters pertaining to “Secular law.” What he’s trying to do is “build bridges of understanding” between the expectations of both camps, as you stated “Live and Let Live.” Your implication that he can’t be trusted to tell the “full truth” isn’t fair. God would certainly let him know if he wasn’t candid enough in his talks. Like all of the apostles of the Church of Jesus Christ, he gets God’s “approval” on his speeches “before” he delivers them.
@@fredkelbert1913 what utter crap. He is no more connected to God than the Pope is which is not that much but since your either a convert or born into lds you believe anything about your particular organisation. You treat yr apostles like Gods which is a mistake there just men with a mission!
@@Cyrusmagiyour generalized statements are completely false. You either live in a bubble or have not expanded your experiences with LDS members.
Oaks lied. He was President of BYU during the electroshock barbarism.
@@llnotkoolj2041 he needs to address the truth first. You can’t apologize without admitting you were wrong.
@@llnotkoolj2041 An apology would be nice.
Apostate’s go bother and harass the Muslims and give them your name and address. Come on step up and be a man.
@@llnotkoolj2041 the apostle lied, boy.
@@copisetic1104 yeah you're brilliant there. As a lifelong Mormon I should not criticize leaders of my faith until I have criticized leaders in another.
You must be in MENSA.
Forbidding voters on long lines from being given transportation to the polls or water on line and gerrymandering minorities out of a chance to elect their peers must result in challenge more than simple agreeable passive manners and reconciliation. At some point, you must say yes to no. Accommodation of white religionists historically has meant injury to black religionists.
Nope. Anti discrimination law is unconstitutional.
All this -- coming from a man who belongs to a church where God changed His mind about black people in 1978.
"Accomodating and supporting" the gay community? Uh, yeah...not gonna happen. Elder Holland made that clear at BYU. Understanding others, or firing muskets at them? Mixed messages. As a "seer" in the LDS Church (one who peers into a rock), perhaps he needs to consult his peep stone for some clarification.
Firing muskets? Did you listen to the speacj
A person can accommodate and support but still not condone at the same time
@@mtf88 Accommodate and support with 'Musket Fire'?
@@tuckernielson1 Did you even listen to that talk? He unequivocally declares his love for those who struggle with the same sex challenge. He also says "As near as I can tell Christ never once withheld his love from anyone but he also never once said to anyone because i love you, you are exempt from keeping my commandments." Sounds like support to me 🤷🏾♂️
@@mtf88 user name checks out. /s
When will the brethren realize the covid shot is bad?
Tax religion. Problem solved.
Tax Liberals.
Unconstitutional as all taxes are
@@tuckerbugeater Liberals ARE taxed, so are conservatives. Churches are not.
Tax one non profit, then you must tax them all. Every PTA, every community organization, every hospital or medical faculty like MidTown clinic that offers no cost to low cost care for all. The tax argument is a red herring and should be recognized as a way to destroy every non profit.
The problem is that the Mormon Organization is NOT non-profit!
I liked how openly he talked about the affair / marriage of Joseph Smith and his maid Fanny Alger.
*plural marriage
Don't you just love how he has to have the big echo voice machine on?
That’s called acoustics of the building they are in.
He’s in the Rotunda.
It really makes me mad when people call Joseph Smith a charlatan!
So what if he made those gold plates in his garage.
Also, so what if he made up a religion and was a lifetime grifter and liar. Also, so what if he made up the angel being named Moroni. It’s like, halfway between moron and macaroni. People should be able to make up whatever religions they want, it’s a free country.
Amen.
Hey Alec, fyi Joseph Smith didn't have a garage. That was a little after his time.
Joseph believe in freedom. He state: "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."
@@pensadorcebr Study Joseph Smith's truly misogynistic life. Own up to the actual history.
I am pretty confident Joseph Smith had more integrity in a small percentage of his persona than you do in your whole body. It’s easy as an antagonist to criticize someone for their weaknesses but what about their strengths. You accept a lot of the criticisms of Joseph but ignore all the amazing things he did and the legacy of the people that came after him. The things he taught are evidence to me that he was inspired in spite of the presentism that you use to judge the past. I hope your posterity is less harsh on your idiosyncrasies than you are on people that lived over 150 years ago. That being said, the history of Joseph is not clear cut, is highly disputed both good and bad but you still stand here criticizing someone in a different time with different standards. Even ten years from now societal standards will be different and your current behavior will be scrutinized 10 years from now.