Horror, I was 8 years old then, we spent about 140 days in the city without electricity and water under daily artillery attacks, but we survived✌️💪. One of the hardest days was on daybreak of Dec 6th, when JNA army launched an all-out attack on Dubrovnik. Heavy artillery, air strikes and naval support from ships. It was like day in Hell.
The most bizzare part is that Serbs adamantly claim, to this day, that Dubrovnik is "theirs", and that its culture, literature, art and history belongs to them. But still they bombard it and do their best to burn it down. There's something psychiatric in all that.
Only things destroyed in Dubrovnik were houses which housed terrorists, also that footage from a hilltop view of Dubrovnik burning, i hope you have eyes and can notice thats fucking tires piled up on the harbor (of which there is pics on the internet to prove it as well)
Mr. Davies is very brave, I saw him at Hotel Argentina and he didn't hide and lay on the floor, and he came to Srđ Hill during the Serbian offensive on the fortress, which for me as a soldier was an obligation and for him bravery was associated with adventure. Thank him!
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja.. Wake up 🙏
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja.. Wake up 🙏
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja.. Wake up 🙏
@@LukaVP Galbrajt: "[The] Croatian Army was in Bosnia because the Bosnian Croats were losing the Muslim-Croat war. And it was in essence a defensive effort[... The Croats] were [...] afraid that if they withdrew the Croatian Army, [...] the Army of Bosnia-Herzegovina would be victorious and they would lose a lot of territory. [The UN] statement was also an ultimatum, of which the US was a co-author, to Croatia, that it had two weeks to get out of Bosnia and Herzegovina, otherwise it would face sanctions and probably severe sanctions, similar to those that were on Belgrade."
As Montenegrin, I feel and I felt utter sadness and eternal shame for this happening to our neighbor city. I watched this clip with tears in my eyes. May God forgive us for what we have done to Croatia.
Did you also cry and watch in horror when a journalist was furious at the croats for putting cannons on Hotels and hospitals endangering the reporters who were there?
The Republic of Serbia officialy lists Dubrovnik as their own cultural heritage location. This may be historic footage, but Serbian pretense over Croatia is still present at the highest levels.
That's why their EU path is blocked. If Aleksandar Vucic continues with his rhetoric and sabotages in the Balkans, there will be sanctions against Serbia once again.
Serbs were not permitted to spend a night inside Dubrovnik city wally during the existance of Dubrovnik republic, that's how much "Serbian" city was. Not to mention Serb Nemanjic dynasry waged 5 wars aginst Dubrovnik in the middle ages, than the Schyzmatics again attacked with Russians in 1806. killing more people than in 1991. and destroxying 60% o Dubrovnik republic architecture
Western Herzegovinian lobby is still presenting the Stari Most as "Croatian cultural heritage". 😁So it's quite funny to read comments about Serbs and Dubrovnik, when Croats claim Mostar, which did not even have a Catholic church until 1868. (I wonder how many Croats know this?)
@@hasibhakanovic6682 that is not the official position of the Croatian state, it is not taught in Croatian schools, nor are Croatian institutions promoting it. so don't compare things that can't be compared.
@@guguigugu Most famous promoter of the "Croatian Mostar" is no less than Croat representative currently in the EU parliament Zeljana Zovko... that is an official. HDZ BiH is an offshoot of Croatia's HDZ. Is there a position relayed by officials that is not "official"? Another "official position of the Croatian state": the Croatian Army was not in Mostar and Gornji Vakuf, BiH circa 1993. We're fed up with Croatian hypocrisy.
Mr. Davies and his journalistic team broke through the physical and media blockade imposed by the Serbian aggressor, thus helping the truth reach the world. In this way, he alleviated the suffering of the people of Dubrovnik and likely prevented other possible suffering that could have followed
At the exact same time as Dubrovnik was being hit on the south of Croatia, on the east a small border town of Vukovar had to go through something far more sinister then Dubrovnik. Vukovar is considered croatian Alamo. Outnumbered and outgunned it was expected to be captured by the federal army within a few days, but it took them almost 3 months with massive casulties and a switch in moral from confident to frustrated. That frustration led to numerous attrocities after the town finnaly fell and for the first time in human histroy ethnic cleansing was used as a term to describe what was going on. Vukovar witnessed Stalingrad level of destruction and after it was captured, local non-serb population, along with wounded and captured croatian soldiers were subject to mass torture, rape and executions in the town itself and later on in multiple concentraion camps across Serbia.
@@MnOl1979 There is a gap of 45 years between jasenovac and vukovar. People who were responsible for jasenovac were dead for a very long time. All the crimes i mentioned are well documented by court verdicts in haague, belgrade and zagreb. I would recommned you read a book called "prezivio sam vukovar i ovcaru" but i doubt you'll read it. List of serbian concentration camps 1990-1995: logor Aleksinac logor Banja Luka logor Batkovići logor Begejci logor Beli Manastir logor Bileća logor Borovo Selo logor Bubanj potok logor Bućje logor Dalj logor Darda logor Duboki potok logor Glina logor Jagodnjak logor Knin logor Manjača logor Morinj logor Negoslavci logor Niš logor Novi Sad logor Okučani logor Ovčara logor Petrovci logor Sombor logor Sremska Mitrovica logor Stajićevo logor Stara Gradiška logor Šid logor Velepromet logor VIZ Beograd logor Zapis Vukovar logor Zenica logor Tumare (Ozren) logor Rosulje (Ozren) logor Vozuća
And remember, Croatia did not have an army to defend their country. They used remining soldiers from JNA, and the police. And even more aggravating was the UN putting a weapon embargo on Croatia....
If Croatia had got an army what do you think they would of done? What do you think Russia would of done? You sir, are stupid and like a woman. Not an ounce of stategic thought in you. You just follow your emotions.
Well Croatia is ethnically cleanest state of Europe. A state rasied on biggest genocide in entire history of Southeastern Europe. You Croatian lies are same as war propaganda 1990s.
And of course Germans armed Croats to attack yugoslavian children i.e. conscripts in army barracks. And heavy Vatican and NATO propaganda, as this footage 😅
Thank you very much for this upload, ITN. ITN's Paul Davies and camera operator Nigel Thomson are heroes for documenting this. What kind of rabid beasts attack defenseless town with artillery shells, bombs, rockets? Barbarian hordes from the east, from Montenegro and Serbia, attacked unarmed and defenseless city.
plans were created somewhere in western centers of power and sadly they managed to find few politicians to implement that sick plan. nobody wanted a war, we could negotiate for some years to find a model to reforme country or to break up, just to avoid that bloody war.
@@David-ew5sx Wrong conclusion, Sir. There was no insult to defenders. Defenseless city in a sense that, in those days, the city had no heavy arms to defend itself against aggressor's war ships, war airplanes, infantry cannons, tanks...
Today, Serbia is ruled by those who shot in Dubrovnik. The Serbs have never truly apologized for this, to this day they say that this is a Serbian city and that the Croats burned tires in Dubrovnik to falsely accuse the Serbs of destroying Dubrovnik. Only a very sick people can do that.
Similarly, Croats say the "Muslims" destroyed the Stari Most, also that it was a legitimate military target for them. They didn't raze Stolac, Mostar and Gornji Vakuf, they in fact helped the "Muslims" too. Helped the Muslims so much they deny what their army was doing in 1993. The war crimes-supporting HDZ has been elected into power by the will of Croats, and it's not like Croats ever had a Zoran Djindic moment. Your moral righteousness is fake and nobody outside Croatia buys it.
I am so glad the Croats are free from the Serbian/Russian occupation. I visited Croatia over 10 times, I also visited Serbia and I must admit these are two different types of people, two different mentalities. The Serbs also use 'Russian letters' (cyrillic alphabet) so that explains a lot about who is their master. The fact that Serbs bombed a UNESCO World Heritage site (Dubrovnik since 1979) speaks a lot about how mean they are.
Operation Storm was the single-most decisive battle of the Croatian War for Independence. Launched by the Republic of Croatia in August 1995, it was the largest European land battle since the Second World War. The success of this remarkable military action by Croatia came after four years of brutal fighting. Outnumbered, outgunned, but not outmaneuvered, this tiny new democracy prevailed in a David versus Goliath battle, a moral as well as military victory by an exceptional people. Storm ended the massive humanitarian disaster and genocide committed by the Serbian Army and Chetnik terrorists. It led to the liberation of one third of Croatian territory seized by the enemy, and it made possible the Dayton Agreement that brought peace to the region. This film documents the events surrounding this extraordinary battle, demonstrating that Croatia, along with its army and generals, deserve commendation from the world community, if not a Nobel Peace Prize. ua-cam.com/video/nKoUo8vzRnc/v-deo.html
@@postgradsibstud9321 Well, it explains a lot. Ukraine has lost a lot of its territories because their population has been heavily 'russified'. This is why they are losing Donbas and have lost Crimea. A lot of their population supported (at least initially) the Russians. And Bulgarians? Well, similar story. This has changed now but initially many Bulgarians (including a friend of mine) were absolutely sure than if the Russians attacked then they must have had a good reason. What determines your views is not your passport but your culture, including your language or alphabet.
You and your Catholic friends need to take history lesson... Cyrillic has nothing to do with Russian but come from Bulgaria and Macedonia... it also has nothing to do historically with either Serbia or Russia. Croatia was buying weapons from Russia and has extensive dealings with Russia which exist to this day. There was no Serbian "occupation" because there was no legal Croatian territory, Croatia rejected sovereign borders of BiH and had agreed to the division of BiH with Slobodan Milosevic at Karadjordjevo in March 1991 and by implication the legal basis for its own territorial claims, meaning the territory in question was not sovereign nor rightfully any state's, nor could be. Milosevic attacked Croatia only when Croatia rejected the internal boundaries of Yugoslavia, and Croatia complained only because the victims were themselves rather than Bosniaks.
Kakva tuga, kad se sjetim tih dana kad je pocelo. Imao sam 8 godina, u vinkovackom podrumu gledamo iste slike svaki dan, Vukovar - Dubrovnik (i ostali gradovi naravno, ali ova dva su bila u fokusu). Ne ponovilo se nikada ljudi ne budite ludi!
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja.. Wake up 🙏
Puno hrvatskih ratnika, naših vitezova, ostavilo je svoje kosti na brdima oko Dubrovnika tjerajući barbare iz trebinja i iz crne gore nazad u svoje vukojebine. Dubrovniče, simbolu slobode, nikada ne zavoravi svoje zaštinike, mladost koja se nesebično odazvala na tvoj poziv u pomoć. Neka im je vječna slava i hvala
This aggression was carried out by Montenegrins under the command of Belgrade, but it does not excuse them; they attempted to carve up Croatia, but in the end, and thankfully, the Croats freed themselves from Serbian control forever.
Just as the majority of Croats are not responsible for Jasenovac, the whole of Montenegro was not responsible for Dubrovnik either.It was about backward people, people of the transition from communism and socialism to national chauvinism, and blackmailed by dismissal from their jobs. At that time, most people did not know that Serbia had staged a coup d'état and overthrown the old Montenegrin leadership and brought its people loyal to Milosevic to power. Using propaganda and false with the news that the Croats had bombed Herceg Novi, they worked to increase hatred and to make it easier to take action against Dubrovnik. Some high-ranking Montenegrin officers were killed or committed suicide because they were against it. A large number of reservists refused to respond to the military call-up and throughout Montenegro numerous rallies were organized against the war and the bombing of Dubrovnik. Many Montenegrin intellectuals and writers condemned the war campaign on Dubrovnik and many other things....
@@MBA-PRODUCTION I'm not referring to the Montenegrin people as a whole, not at all, but rather to the military leadership that acted under the orders of Milosevic and the other butchers of Belgrade.
@@gottmituns813 I know, I just described the situation at that time, I was the first to not respond to the call to the reserve and thank God I was never in the reserve since the end of my military service in 1989. in Split until today. They called for military service until the campaign in Kosovo and the bombing of Serbia and Montenegro, but I never went to them... They terrorized us with calls and the police, but that didn't give results, so they decided to mobilize their like-minded people...They had some like-minded people who responded, but it was not much. Although they didn't need much peoples because they knew they could not resist NATO, but they terrorized society with that minority until the referendum.
@@gottmituns813 All three are responsible, but he is the one who was able to distance himself from Serbia and Milosevic... He agreed to Carrington's plan, which angered Milosevic and he threatened them already at the meeting.... When he returned by plane from a meeting abroad Belgrade pressed him again and he changed his decision...
@@lopov9 You mean the military operation that was a counter attack at the end of the war liberating the land that belonged to Croatia before Serbs invanded it and genocided everyone there and it was never classified as an attack on civilian population except by serb nationalists? What about it?
Troops from Serbia and Montenegro attacked and bombed UNESCO Dubrovnik, a world heritage site. The Serbs and its allies pillaged and looted the Croatian countryside around Dubrovnik. They burnt houses down and dragged away Croatian civilians and POWs to the notorious "Morinj camp" which was located in Montenegro, where people were beaten, tortured and murdered.
There were no people killed in that camp .... The High Court in Podgorica found with a final criminal verdict that war crimes were committed against prisoners of war in the form of physical abuse in the Gathering Center of the Yugoslav People's Army (JNA) in Morinje. Four people were sentenced to prison terms for this - Ivo Gojnić to two years, Boro Gligić to three years, Špiro Lučić to three years and Ivo Menzalin to a prison sentence of four years. The court established that "an atmosphere of terror and fear for bare life reigned in the Morinj Collection Center to which the victims were constantly exposed".
@@freespiritable Census 2011 in Montenegro 278,865 thousand Montenegrins, Bosniaks 53,605, 30,439 Albanians, 20,537 Muslims, 6,021 Croats, Serbs 178,110 Pro-Montenegro population 389,467 Serbs 178,110 /Serbs in Montenegro are mostly a political category that was created by assimilation and Serbian persecution for 150 years./ Anti-bureaucratic revolution is a term used to describe a series of mass protests, as well as related political events and processes in the second half of 1988 and the first half of 1989 when the overthrown leaderships of Vojvodina, Montenegro and Kosovo. In essence, these were secret actions of the Serbian service, which overthrew the leadership in those provinces of Serbia and in the Republic of Montenegro.... That's how the leadership installed by Milosevic came to Montenegro and manipulated people, stole elections and the referendum from the nineties, etc.With that pro-Serbian population of 28 percent, they have stolen elections and a repressive apparatus against the Montenegrin-oriented majority population. first of all, they were against the state of Montenegro itself and its survival and independence, and then also against the environment. Of those 178,000 that they have in their pro-Serbian bloc of 650,000 inhabitants of Montenegro with all the above-mentioned circumstances, they collected, according to estimates, about 7000 to 20000 reservists who were sent to Dubrovnik... And that's it. That's how the whole of Montenegro was compromised. ////////////////// Regarding the theory of Slavic origin - The largest genetic research on the Montenegrin population conducted in Houston USA produced the following results. Coming from the first Europeans, 23,000 years and older - 35% of the population, the second is the African group - 25%, in third place are the proto-Celts, followed by the Slavs with only -8%
My uncle Qenan Selmani was wounded defending the city that day I remember he said that he was missing part of frontal bone but kept fighting because he was on the mount srdz fortress
Very interesting, if your uncle was in Mostar in 1993 as a Muslim, he would have had no place to celebrate Eid. The Croats can tell you why, they know better than anybody.
Sono stato a Dubrovnik quando ero piccolo, dopo la guerra, ero in vacanza. Ora che guardo queste immagini mi rattrista moltissimo perchè ricordo della bellissima città che ho visitato e di quanto è bella la Croazia. Mi ricordo ancora dei muri bucati dalle pallottole e di mio padre che mi diceva, "qui c'è stata la guerra", avevo 10 anni. Dubrovnik è stupenda e la Croazia l'ho visitata tutta, da nord fino a sud, a Dubrovnik. Vi voglio bene Croati, un italiano.
As an Aussie, with a large Croatian community in all capital cities, I was always looking forward to traveling to Croatia on holiday. Hands down, one of my favourite places I've visited. They have a great sense of humour and in their own way found humour when recalling the siege on Dubrovnik. I had a tour guide on canoes who was a policeman at the time and they were used on the front lines just alongside any able soldier who could form some sort of defence. He laughed about the shocking shortage of weapons and their small arms against the scary weaponary of the Serbs, almost a ridiculous mismatch but they made it through in one way or another. The Croatians were lovely to us and I'll definitely visit again and look forward to hearing the stories from the locals who were happy to tell them with a nice demeanor.
they smuggled weapons and raided federal armory's there was no "shortage" of weapons or ammo when it came to massacaring Serbian villagers that later turned into rebels or so to speak.
what are you talking about? It was only a mismatch in terms of it being whole nato vs just few ethnic serbs in croatia. It ended in ethnic cleansing of all serbs from lands where they lived for hundreds of years.
Be sure to visit Mostar, especially the eastern areas where you can still see signs of destruction by Croatian militants & extremists. They can tell you about Croatian "humor".
Serbs wanted to demolish completely the old town of Dubrovnik. They did that with the town of Vukovar unfortunately, and many other small towns and villages in Croatia, but also in Bosnia and Herzegovina..
Only things on fire in the old city were roofs of modern buildings and tires that were piled up on the harbor to make it seem like the city was being destroyed. Also, don't you remember what YOU guys did to us in 14-18, 41-45 AND in 90-95? How many Serb people were expelled from Zadar? How many Serb houses and shops were raided and destroyed in Zadar...
@@MilicijaKrajine How many thousands of Croats and muslims were killed from 1991 to 1995 all across croatia and bosnia, i'm pretty sure Serbs attacked and genocided other nations first
Dubrovnik was a tourist destination in 1993. Mostar still has the signs of destruction by Croatian-aligned militants and the Croatian Army, which you can see to this day. It's interesting to watch the Croats play an interesting game where they alternate between roles of justifying aggression & genocide and self-pity, it mostly depends on who is watching, how informed they are, & what they determine they can get away with saying. If they're talking to fellow Croats who have been told they were victims of Serb "aggression", all the better. It's a wonder they don't all become lawyers and defend themselves at the ICTY?
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja.. Wake up 🙏
I've heard stories that during the bigger part of the siege, Srđ would be guarded by 30 men atmost. The overall strength of both sides was Yugoslavia ~ 30.000 and Croatia ~ 430-900
🥲 If you could have fought 30:1, you would have not lost territory in BiH and Croatia, but you lost nearly everything. You constructed a war myth and believe it.
That's true, but Serb infantry wasn't that big either. Compared to Vukovar this was quite a small battle, only the barbarism of the attacker with its senseless bombardment made it look bigger.
Even today serbs are dreamin about "Serbian world and greater Serbia". This includes Dubrovnik. According to them Marin Držić is a serb. The idea si passed on from chetnik in commamd, president Vučić.
@@daniloungeinc.5102 Serbs were not permitted to spend a night inside Dubrovnik city wally during the existance of Dubrovnik republic, that's how much "Serbian" city was. Not to mention Serb Nemanjic dynasry waged 5 wars aginst Dubrovnik in the middle ages, than the Schyzmatics again attacked with Russians in 1806. killing more people than in 1991. and destroxying 60% o Dubrovnik republic architecture.
We Croats know that British policy then supported the preservation of Yugoslavia and John Major personally supported Serbian aggression against Croatia. Never forget and never forgive.
So what? Maybe that was a good idea. Maybe they knew Croatians were extremist and their government harbored desires of conquest in BiH, 300 years your lot was sentenced to in the Hague. Disgusting people. 🤢
Tuta, Ivan Korade, Mirko Norac... how does anybody come to like your lot? The reason Croatia experienced four years of 'aggression' is your Vrhovnik, instead of sending Croatian arms to occupied territories in Croatia where Croats had a 10:1 advantage in human resources, sent them to Mostar, Gornji Vakuf and Prozor in BiH where Croats were less than 8% of the population... genius.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 Don't make me start listing Bosniak crimes against Croats.... Don't make me remind you who said "This is not our war", while the Serbs literally burned to the ground a village in BiH where the majority are Croats. So, don't start, pls
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja.. Wake up 🙏
@@petarsaric5848 I'm happy for you to list Bosniak crimes, because we know where that goes... any objective would know which list would be bigger... 300 years imprisonment not because of what Serbs or Bosniaks said but because the ICTY determined Croatia was an aggressor and its senior military-political leadership were criminals. This includes all levels of government all the way down to the pettiest Croatian fanatics like Tuta. Sitting in the prosecutors office in BiH are volumes of crimes committed by Croatian citizens on the territory of BiH, including places like Vrbanja - where Croat militants massacred about seventy civilians in the span of an hour. It's not a surprise most Croatians do not know what Croatia was up to when they do not know their regular army was present in BiH throughout 1993. Please read the speeches you quote in full... you might be surprised to see the quote has absolutely nothing to do with what you think it does. The speech has been addressed before, including by Croatian officials, as a misrepresentation. President Izetbegovic was addressing Bosniaks in relation to the JNA's mobilization of Bosniaks to be sent to the Croatian front, and this had nothing to do with "Serbs burning down a village" but whether Bosniaks would be sent to fight in Croatia in places like Slavonia at a time Croatia was losing territory by the day and was nearing military exhaustion. So, we see that a civilizational gesture to the Croats that Bosniaks should not join the JNA is used an excuse to sack Prozor... The takeaway is Croats are full of ill-will, and there is absolutely no talking sense to them. All they've ever been told are lies. What Zagreb understands, and respects, is force.
yeah because that was part of the blockades burning tires on the road was a good way to stop vehicles from coming in onto streets so that they can ambush them.
funny how 99% of these comments are "some serbs thinks this and that". "some things never change" TRUE, some people truly didnt change from ww2...i wonder who lmaooo. When will you change? when will you make humanity better?
@@KolyaUrtz I wonder why there's neo nazi gangs in Croatia then. PS Croatia didn't declare independence during the war it was still a federal republic that wanted to break off by that time on top of that keep coping and cry longer Ztard pfp Russia loves the Serbs not you
@@marcopolio111 completely false. People like Croatia because of the coast...and nothing else. No people hate the Serbs except Zionists and US's deep state. Regular people ether don't care or, those who were in Serbia or know about it's history, love it. Who wouldn't love s heroic nation with badass history, extremely hospitable culture and kind people?
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja.. Wake up 🙏
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja.. Wake up 🙏
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja.. Wake up 🙏
On serbian tv at the time they claimed that Dubrovnik had ustasha from Singapore (!!??) That arround 20 thousand ustasha are in the city. While on the hill you see fired upon, Srđ, there were 18 (EIGHTEEN) ppl defending To my brothers that gave their life - rest in peace
Yes, that was funny... but maybe you have a short memory? Croats typically do. I also heard on Croatian web portals and in official propaganda that 50,000 soldiers from the Army of Bosnia-Herzegovina were besieging the poor Croats of the Lasva Valley... that Croats fought "Muslims" and "Mujahideen" 10:1... That Ahmici didn't happen, or was the work of unruly elements with no relationship to the Croatian state. Problem is, there were not 50,000 soldiers in the ARBiH with access to weapons in the entire country, the bulk of armed individuals were fighting the Serbs in Brcko, Majevica, Gorazde and Sarajevo -- you know, Bosnia's population centers -- & not the pissant Lasva Valley. I heard from your Vrhovnik that it was all part of Alija's plan to settle 500,000 Turks to Bosnia-Herzegovina -- a statement he made. So we must ask ourselves, between the Serbs and the Croats, who is more psychotic?
@@hasibhakanovic6682 Bosnians are just Croats and Serbs that became muslim after the turks invaded, you betrayed Croatia in the 90's, you wouldn't exist today if not for HOS and HVO which you stabbed in the back.
@@igorsvacic217 It's "stupid" until the Croatian leadership is named as participants as a JCE in Bosnia-Herzegovina, and your ally & the UNSC gives you 2 weeks to take your forces out of BiH under the threat of sanctions. 😘 It's stupid until Tudjman's cronies find themselves facing 200-300 years imprisonment at the ICTY for Croatia's lurid crimes in BiH. 😘 It's stupid when you argue, as Croats do, the Stari Most was BOTH a legitimate military target yet "the Muslims" destroyed it. 😘 Since I'm so silly and you're so smart, is there anything your lot managed to prove, Igor, before the ICJ and ICTY about Croatia's innocence, the "Muslim" hordes in Central Bosnia, the plot to subjugate Croats to Sharia law, the 500,000 Turks Alija wanted to settle in BiH, or have we forgot about that? 😘 Sorry to have committed the crime of remembering. I also remember your failed "genocide" lawsuit against Serbia. 😘
@@hans7407 Hrvoje, Catholics are serf-settlers that came to the Neretva Valley from the impoverished Venetian Dalmatia in the 18th century to work on the estates of Bosniak landowners. The first Xtolic Chuch in Mostar was built in 1868 -- and in the settlements of the western Mostar there was no recorded Catholic presence until around the same town. HOS illiterate fanatics/extremists were a bunch of kids under cult leader Dobroslav Paraga who posed with weapons & took photos yet melted wherever they fought, from Posavina to Konjic; the so-called HVO was principally engaged in theft, looting of humanitarian convoys, no fighting, and, as the arm of the Croatian state in BiH, could not defend Croats in Mostar, the Lasva Valley, or anywhere, let alone Bosniaks in major population centers where the so-called HVO had no presence. Because Croats were incompetent and incapable of protecting anybody, their population went from 16% to about 9% by the end of 1992, and virtually everywhere the HVO attempted to fight the Serbs it crumbled. The Croatian regime was with its own regular army was not capable of protecting itself with a 10:1 advantage in population against its enemy, let alone fight a proxy war in a foreign country over a border where Croats were about 9% of the population. This is the reality you kiddos won't hear on HRT.
I'm not using any of these reasons as an excuse but you gotta remember 1991 was an odd time for geopolitics with the Soviet Union on life support in its last days. Communist regimes all around Eastern and central Europe collapsing,the Gulf War had just ended,etc No one really knew what to do Europe had not seen a conflict on its soil since WWII. It was long overdue but finally the U.S and NATO did step in and stop Serbian aggression
Nije samo gledala nego i indirektno dala zelene svijetlo,a "časni" UN zabranio Hrvatskoj da kupi oružje!Svijet nas je osudio na smrt ali su previdjeli hrvatskog ratnika!
Thank You Mr. Davis and ITN for your bravery and honesty. This is journalism at its best. You broke media blockade imposed by the Serbian aggressor and help the truth reach the world.
I watch this footage and see a Ukrainian city or town on the frontline (and even way on the backside) now. This is what makes Ukrainians and Croatians really close - a common misfortune
Operation Storm was the single-most decisive battle of the Croatian War for Independence. Launched by the Republic of Croatia in August 1995, it was the largest European land battle since the Second World War. The success of this remarkable military action by Croatia came after four years of brutal fighting. Outnumbered, outgunned, but not outmaneuvered, this tiny new democracy prevailed in a David versus Goliath battle, a moral as well as military victory by an exceptional people. Storm ended the massive humanitarian disaster and genocide committed by the Serbian Army and Chetnik terrorists. It led to the liberation of one third of Croatian territory seized by the enemy, and it made possible the Dayton Agreement that brought peace to the region. This film documents the events surrounding this extraordinary battle, demonstrating that Croatia, along with its army and generals, deserve commendation from the world community, if not a Nobel Peace Prize. ua-cam.com/video/nKoUo8vzRnc/v-deo.html
@@hasibhakanovic6682 nothing compared to vukovar, skabranja, osijek, kijevo, krizancevo selo, doljani, grabovica, uzdol, racak etc. Yes you serbs (no matter if orthodox or muslim) are very good people...you learned ot from your ottoman masters
@@zwadrafanjanju-q7p Ask the ICTY: Croats sentenced to 300 years imprisonment, the leadership of Croatia convicted of war crimes and named participants in JCEs. Obviously the rest of the world has it in reverse, and the ICTY is complicit in an Islamist-Serbian conspiracy against your Dalmatian banana republic. I wonder if the United States is complicit to, as they were the ones who threatened your banana republic with sanctions in 1994 for aggression in BH?
@@hasibhakanovic6682 ask the ICTY: One of the part of the bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington accords in 1994, the bosniaks killed 1,051 croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soliders prisoners of the war, a total of 1,695 and 152,950 croats escaped and where Exiled.. And funny when someone from the poorest country in europe Tell someone "banane republic" if there were no croats you would be poorer then afghanistan...that your serbo-turkish jelsaousy
@@user-kc6qr5eo1k Classic serb, Jasenovac which happend in world war two and lets not mention what the chetniks did too, and Oluja is a military operation and only serbs call it a genocide and its funny because they killed all the croats living there first and ran like dogs after they lost the war 🚜🚜🚜
@@user-kc6qr5eo1k So you are saying genocidng thousands of muslims, slovenians, albanians and croats is justified because Ustashes genocided serbs in world war two? By that logic that genocide was justified because the chetniks put croatia under a dictatorship and genocided Croatia first, learn history outside vucic's asshole for once
@@user-kc6qr5eo1kBasicly, if Bosnia attacked you now, and commited a genocide against your civilians, they wouldn't do anything bad since you did the same thing to them? Sick mindset buddy.
Yet Serbs will say it was not their war and that they didnt participate. "It was just the Yugoslavian army" (yet 98% of YNA soldiers that were left were Serbs)
irrelevant stat. War was between state of croatia and state of yugosaliva. Nothing else is relevant. Cry about it, go on. Try to demonize and entire ethnicity and spread hatred like you did in ww2
Serbs fought in Dubrovnik so what ? What exactly is your point ? Why are you trying to have the Moral superiority ? We know what croats did in Jasenovac and during oluja.
@@sbj1277 and you know nothing about what was happening before Ustashas and Jasenovac? What happened in Krajina,Vojvodina before Oluja.. oh yes let's play dumb it's not that hard for you.
@@KolyaUrtz extremely low IQ reply. btw those weren't the modern croats in ww2, those were the independent state of croatia croats, it's not the same thing bro, so stop whining and demonizing an entire ethnicity and spreading hatred
Croatia has a population about the same size as Serbia, minus Kosova. Adding to that its diaspora population, the Croatian population is considerable. Croats are, on average, wealthier than Serbs, Croatia always had a more developed industry than Serbia. Nonetheless, Serbia and Montenegro managed to conquer about a third of Croatia with less than three thousand losses, some areas without any significant resistance. Dubrovnik was saved because the international community told the Serbs and Montenegrins who had it completely surrounded to stop or risk military intervention. The Croatian Army was in fact defeated by November 1991, and had signed a permanent ceasefire with a third of territory under its control. It was Serbia that controlled Croatia's territory, not the other way around; Croatian was bisected at Benkovac & major cities like Karlovac were within range of Serbian artillery. Tudjman, as a measure of desperation, not strength, began to appeal to the rest of the world for diplomatic, political and military support. You were not speaking like this in 1992, just to remind you. Croatia's fate ultimately depended on what would happen in Bosnia-Herzegovina, and whether Serb and Montenegrin forces would redeploy to BiH, which meant Croatia never had to fight the bulk of Serb forces frontally. By April 1992, for every armed Krajina soldier, there were about 5 Serb soldiers in BiH. The question remains is this one: why did it take Croatia, with advantage in human resources of approximately 10:1, four whole years to liberate a third of its territory? Can you give me an example of another country one-third occupied by one tenth of the population? Who was militarily ineffective?
@@planetcaravan2925 Croatia was occupied for three years by a force that Croatia outnumbered in terms of human resources 10:1... on what planet is Croatia "militarily effective"?
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj
Operation Storm was the single-most decisive battle of the Croatian War for Independence. Launched by the Republic of Croatia in August 1995, it was the largest European land battle since the Second World War. The success of this remarkable military action by Croatia came after four years of brutal fighting. Outnumbered, outgunned, but not outmaneuvered, this tiny new democracy prevailed in a David versus Goliath battle, a moral as well as military victory by an exceptional people. Storm ended the massive humanitarian disaster and genocide committed by the Serbian Army and Chetnik terrorists. It led to the liberation of one third of Croatian territory seized by the enemy, and it made possible the Dayton Agreement that brought peace to the region. This film documents the events surrounding this extraordinary battle, demonstrating that Croatia, along with its army and generals, deserve commendation from the world community, if not a Nobel Peace Prize. ua-cam.com/video/nKoUo8vzRnc/v-deo.html
@@hasibhakanovic6682Complete list: chetniks including montenegrins: 2 311 years bosniak mujahedins 128 years jailed, many never tried for war crimes around central bosnia, others went for ISIL There is mistrust towards the Hague Court within bosnian serbs and bosnian croats, two of the three constituent peoples.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 One of the part of the bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington accords in 1994, the bosniaks killed 1,051 croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soliders prisoners of the war, a total of 1,695 and 152,950 croats escaped and where Exiled..
@@tonyher1773 dont forget that 5 arbih fighters from el-mujahid were responsible for 911 (im not joking search for it) That how peaceful and liberal so-called bosniaks really are...
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj
I never shed a tear... but 10:45 really touched me as a woman cried for her husband, wondering if she would ever see him again..... and for many women this was the last time they saw them... let alone heard them....
@@daniloungeinc.5102 Serbs were not permitted to spend a night inside Dubrovnik city wally during the existance of Dubrovnik republic, that's how much "Serbian" city was. Not to mention Serb Nemanjic dynasry waged 5 wars aginst Dubrovnik in the middle ages, than the Schyzmatics again attacked with Russians in 1806. killing more people than in 1991. and destroxying 60% o Dubrovnik republic architecture
@@ivandicivan4189 The first Catholic Church in Mostar was built in 1868. Today, as in 1993, it's a "Croatian city"... there was no presence of those Catholics in the western parts of the town 100 years ago. How many Croats would know that, out of interest? 0.5 percent? 0.1 percent, if that? Tell me, what is actually Croatian about the Neretva Valley and Western Herzegovina? Prove 'king' Tomislav was coronated in Duvno with primary sources... If you can do it, I'll donate my monthly income to a charity for Croatian children suffering from cancer.
I remember watching parts of this live on the news. I would watch the news on what was happening every day after school. I was a teenager throughout the war years. No one else at school knew what was happening there.
Operation Storm was the single-most decisive battle of the Croatian War for Independence. Launched by the Republic of Croatia in August 1995, it was the largest European land battle since the Second World War. The success of this remarkable military action by Croatia came after four years of brutal fighting. Outnumbered, outgunned, but not outmaneuvered, this tiny new democracy prevailed in a David versus Goliath battle, a moral as well as military victory by an exceptional people. Storm ended the massive humanitarian disaster and genocide committed by the Serbian Army and Chetnik terrorists. It led to the liberation of one third of Croatian territory seized by the enemy, and it made possible the Dayton Agreement that brought peace to the region. This film documents the events surrounding this extraordinary battle, demonstrating that Croatia, along with its army and generals, deserve commendation from the world community, if not a Nobel Peace Prize. ua-cam.com/video/nKoUo8vzRnc/v-deo.html
@@BranislavB-hx9zy This looks nice on paper...but Croatian forces never fought the Serbs frontally because there was an armed force of 60,000 soldiers within Serb forces' background and for every 1 soldier in Croatia there were 5 in BiH. The majority of tanks and artillery of the Serbian forces were dispatched to BiH; in Croatia, the Krajina Serb forces were dispositioned against BiH and the 5th Corps, not the Croatian Army, and had been for over 3 years. Galbraith who toured the Croatian "frontline" testified to the complete absence of fortifications, static machine gun nests, trenches along the front... all Galbraith saw were Krajina police checkpoints. Across the Krajina there was no organized resistance... what resistance occurred happened over a period of 3 days, neither the Serbs in Serbia nor the Serbs in Bosnia could help Krajina because they were denied free movement in BiH... the supply line running thru Brcko was limited to literally about a mile... Serbs could not mobilize airpower because of an internationally imposed NFZ... what happened in Aug 1-3 was not the "largest European land battle"... but a tiny skirmish followed by a withdrawal.hope this helps.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 On the part of the Bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington Accords in 1994, the Bosniaks killed 1,051 Croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soldiers prisoners of war, a total of 1,695, and 152,950 Croats escaped and were exiled, and that is only those for whom there is documentation...
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja.. Wake up 🙏
@@hasibhakanovic6682 One of the part of the bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington accords in 1994, the bosniaks killed 1,051 croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soliders prisoners of the war, a total of 1,695 and 152,950 croats escaped and where Exiled..
GOD, this footage makes the BLOOD BOIL IN MY VEINS! This City is a true GEM - the "Pearl Of The Adriatic" - and the B*** BOMB IT LIKE IT WAS A FIELD OF POTATOES.
Thank you for sharing this powerful video. Paul Davies captured the reality of life in Dubrovnik during those dark days in 1991. There is a book about the siege, The Enigma of Victory, which includes his preface and testimony, along with stories from Croatian defenders, civilians, and historians. I wanted to share this in case anyone is interested in learning more about that period... The book is available on Amazon
"Croatian defenders" - value judgement that reveals your bias. Bias will never get to truth. There was no "Homeland War", only a war between Greater Croatia and Greater Serbia. Croatian soldiers were militants, then members of the Croatian Army, which was the armed force of the Republic of Croatia, condemned by the UNSC for aggression against a Member State in February 1994, in a resolution threatening sanctions and cosponsored by the United States, your major "ally". I hope similar books will be written about "Croatian defenders", or "Croatian butchers", in Mostar, Vitez and Gornji Vakuf -- after of course their lengthy prison sentences are over.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 croatian defenders and heroes defended themselfs from islamic terror and al-qaida in vitez, busovaca and all of central bosnia and hercegovina...did you know that most of the Terrorist in 9/11 were mujahedeen from bosnia...
Kako neznas sto je bilo sjeti se grada Dubrovnika. Bravo Thompson, i svima kojima ne pase njegova glazba neka gledaju ovakva izvjesca iz ratnih dana. Sve ce im morati biti jasno.
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj
300 godina robije na ICTY-ju, a cijeli vojno-politički vrh Hrvatske osuđen kao sudionici u UZP-u.Jedini vrh strane države osuđen za UZP u BiH.Evo granatirali su ti grad a ti proglašavaš Bog je s Hrvatima... Bog nije bio s Hrvatima, čak ni kad su u samoj Hrvatskoj brojčano nadmašili Srbe 10:1.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 cinjenice je da su srbi (pravoslavci i muslimani) sistematicno pobili i tjerali civile...hrvati nisu zato su bili oprezniji to cak ICTY kaze.. Zatim: Bog i Hrvati
This should be aired once a year to remind people what happens when you let people put lies as a truth. Same happening in Ukraine now, same scenario in Croatia 30 years ago, Russians and Serbs have similar signature in their conviction of how the world should run.
That's an interesting point of view... Croatia experienced war for 3 months, whereas Ukraine has experienced war for 3 years... The ICTY has convicted Croatia's popularly elected government of war crimes, a JCE, and every crime except genocide, in a country outside its international borders. International judgements tell us that the HVO was an arm of the regime in Zagreb... Croatian media still pretends the Croatian government did not control the HVO, its merciless criminals, but indeed, in every case adjudicated before the ICTY the conflict was found to be international in nature. 😘
@@hasibhakanovic6682 croatia has won the war in croatia in 3 months...and croats also won the war in bosnia against serbs in 4 years, and saved bosniak people who were to incompetent to defend themselfs against serbs...
@@user-tk3cb6im5o That's a nice story, but reality is harsh to Croatia and Croatian revisionism. We do not have to speculate on what would have happened if the war stayed the course in 1991 and Croats continued to "fight" the Serbs alone, because we, and the whole world, saw in only three months, from August until November, territorial losses were only in one direction, Croatia was bisected, critical civilian infrastructure was destroyed, and Croatia was militarily exhausted. It was the Croatian leadership that appealed to the world for help, including Anton Tus, who in his own words, asked the world to "Save us." Nobody in Croatia believed they were winning the war. Croats had already begun to leave BiH en masse by the hundreds of thousands, most had left the Neretva Basin and Central Bosnia for Westenr Herzegovina and Dalmatia. If Croatia defended itself, its legislature would not have signed a permanent ceasefire recognizing 1/3 of territory under the control of Greater Serbia, defended by a Serb population one tenth the size of the total population of Croatia, and nobody in Croatia would have agreed to the deployment of UNPROFOR, as it would have been fully capable of disarming these areas. The Sarajevo Agreement as well as the November ceasefire specifies the frontlines were to be permanent boundaries! UNPROFOR was deployed because Croatia could not defend itself, even against predominantly local Serb forces, and at the request of Croatia, not Serbia. When the war moved to BiH, as the result of Bosniak, not Croat, activities, for every 1 soldier in Croatia, there were 5 in Bosnia-Herzegovina. The Krajina was left defended by a population outnumbered 10:1, and even so, Croatia launched no offensive despite overwhelming military and economic superiority; the reason is it couldn't. The absolute majority of tanks and artillery pieces in the Serb arsenal were sent to Bosnia-Herzegovina, in areas defended and inhabited by Bosniaks, not Croatia, which is not what would happen if Croatia was the main military threat to Serbia. In Podrinje '92-95, around 5,000 Serb soldiers were liquidated by the Army of Bosnia-Herzegovina. That figure corresponds to less than the total deaths of the Serbian side in the whole of Croatia from '91-95. In just a tiny part of Bosnia-Herzegovina, more Serbs perished than in all of Croatia. When Croatia finally did something serious in August 1995, the ARBiH had attritioned the Serbs by 30,000 personnel, destroyed hundreds of tanks and artillery pieces, blocked the only Serb supply line linking the Krajina to Serbia, and denied free movement to the Serbs who had 120,000 men at their disposal. It was the Bosnian leadership, not Croatian leadership, that made Serbia a pariah state internationally, and caused Serbia (and nearly Croatia) to be sanctioned by the world. It was because of the Bosnian government, not the Croatian regime, a no fly zone was implemented over the airspace of Bosnia-Herzegovina, and the Yugoslavian Air Force could not interdict Croatia's military movements. And by August 1995, Slobodan Milosevic was incapable of protecting the Krajina, even if he wanted to (which he did not).
@@hasibhakanovic6682 reality is following: Croats defended themself from serbs....croats at the beginning didnt have and army nor weapons...the serbs who had the 4th strongest army and the other yugoslavian people (except slovenians) struggled with the conquest of vukovar against some 3.000 light armed croatian rebells, and except vukovar serbs didnt conquered any other croatian town nor osijek, slavonski brod, dubrovnik, karlovac, daruvar etc. At the end of 1991 croats quicky started with successfull ofensives like otkos 10...but then the UN intervented and both croats and milosevic agreed about an peaceful Integration to serbia... Now lets talk about bosnia: Army of Republik of srpska entered bosnia and they quickly conquest 70% of bosnia without any struggle (reminder: in croatia they only got vukovar at this time) They coudnt do anything against serbs...and muslims left bosnia to Western europe or croatia... And muslim army get weapons and help from croatia, and because of croatia the serbian offensive stopped... After that muslims showed there real face...in 1993 when croats were busy with maslenica with UN forces and serbian army (yes serbian criminal arkan was there at this time)...muslims cowardly attacked croatian civilians in central bosnia and ethnic cleansed 180.000 croats with help from al-qaida and other jihadists groups from there... Meanwhile muslims capitulated to serbs and signed the krajisnik-izetbegovic agreement for the liberation of republika srpska... In Winter 1993 when surrounded croats from kiseljak, vitez and busovaca finally started Winning the americans forced both sides to sign the Washington agreement... In 1994-1995 most of the battles in bosnia were won by croats, even in 1995 in kljuc when the ARBiH had to fight alone, they were fastly pushed back to defensive by the serbian army and croatian army had to intervinate... Even highest bosnian generals comfirm openly...you are just laughable
Croatia was bigger victim than Ukraine cause: Croatia wasn't independent and international recognized. Croatia didn't had guaranteed place in UN. Croatia have sea horse/dragon shape. Croatia have 10× smaller land mass and number of inhabitans. There was not world wide spreaded internet, android mobile phones and tablets Croatia wasn't get donations from West, instead we bought it from Albania or former JNA's warehouses. Croatia get embargo on weapons.
War in Ukraine is far more brutal.For 4 years around 25 000 dead in Croatia in both sides and with civilians counted in that number.In Ukraine there is probably 500 000 dead in 2 years.In Croatia there was no heavy artilery (200mm and larger)no ballistic missile with a range greater than 1000 kilometres and ton of explosive in head,no drones,no termal sniper scopes,.......
@@MnOl1979 but it is the same since at that time, Yugoslavia had the third strongest army in the world, similar to how Russia is the second strongest today (USA is first). All the weapons of Yugoslavia were in Serbian possession since the main base was located in Belgrade, so the Croats had to defend themselves with hunting rifles for a while.
Dane here. We saw the horrors of what was happening. You will probably not undetstand, but it was almost impossible to do anything about it from our side. We could only daily watch in horror.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 On the part of the Bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington Accords in 1994, the Bosniaks killed 1,051 Croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soldiers prisoners of war, a total of 1,695, and 152,950 Croats escaped and were exiled, and that is only those for whom there is documentation...
@@Михаил-ч3н5цkoje si godiste? Sjecas se klanja? Ili da pricamo o tome kako ste nas napadali sa jataganima I ko pravi turci nabijali na kolac... ili je to pre stara prica?
Lots of historical disputes here. Let's not forget that before Croatia and Serbia the Republic of Ragusa, was a powerful naval republic and merchant city state.
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija a APIS isto njihov p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj
How ironic that the Croats, who justifiably complained about the demolition of Dubrovnik and its Old Town, just one year after this demolished Mostar and its Old Bridge in the same way .
The Catholics claim "the Muslims" used the Stari Most to transport soldiers and weapons so it was a legitimate military target and "the Muslims" also destroyed it. Masters of self-contradiction but also extreme arrogance as they expect the rest of the world to hear this nonsense. It should be noted similar architecture was destroyed far outside areas of conflict, meaning that it is irrelevant whether there was a military use for the bridge at the time it was destroyed. Stolac is an example of widespread destruction in the absence of military objectives. It was the manifestation of a plan at the highest levels of the Croatian government to change the Islamic and Bosniak image of areas of BiH that Croats had little/no historical presence in but needed to create continuous territory between their enclaves and Western Herzegovina... Not simply architecture and cultural/religious sites, but businesses, apartment blocks, water towers, sanitation plants and the requirements for a civilized existence everywhere the Split Military District forces (HVO) stepped foot. Buildings can be rebuilt but human life can't be brought back. They have been conditioned for the last 20-30 years to accept and tell lies... not even the ICTY has an effect on Croats when the findings of the ICTY are diluted and only then relayed to the Croatian population by the media and talking heads. Watch Croatian television and there is still war propaganda or themes about the dangers to the existence of "Croats in BiH", it only takes about 10 minutes of listening to a HRT news program to encounter.
Don't call them Croats. Call them Catholics, Dalmatian/Istrian/Slavonian Catholics, Catholics of the former Venetian Dalmatia, or Yugoslav Catholics. "Croat" is a regional identity, we know this because "Horvat" is a popular surname among Hungarian Jews, who can be genetically sequenced as Ashkenazi Jews. Clearly if one can be genetically Jewish and have a surname meaning "Croat", "Croat" does not simply denote a nation. If they try to write our history, we will accept the invitation to write theirs as well.
@@KolyaUrtz When Slovenia declared independence, Jović said he didn’t give a damn if the Slovenes left because there were no Serbs there. You only wanted to carve up Bosnia-Herzegovina and Croatia to create your Greater Serbia while simultaneously subjugating Montenegro. No one believes the story of Yugoslav unity when you were sabotaging the federation until the very end, blocking Mesić from taking the Presidency.
@@gottmituns813 Here's what really happened: Franjo wanted to divide BiH, was as eager as anybody to do so and believed they had a common plan, and after Croats rejected the internal borders of Yugoslavia as the legal basis for a sovereign state, only then did Serbs stab Croats in the back... Now a victim mentality of the Croats who want to tell us they were sentenced to 300 years imprisonment at the ICTY because of Serbs. 😘 Even as you were occupied, you did not give up on your fetishisms for BiH territories... we know the outcome: Croats are 8% of BiH down from 16% in 1991. More Croat military deaths in BiH in battles with the ARBiH than in Croatia itself. 😘
@@hasibhakanovic6682 What you’re saying is completely false. Croatia had the right to independence according to the Yugoslav Constitution. If Serbia intervened, it was to carve up Croatian territory and forcibly unite it with Belgrade. That’s why the Serbs in Croatia became emboldened and expelled Croats from their homes-they felt strong because, by then, Serbia already had full control of the JNA. Yugoslavia effectively no longer existed in 1991; the Serbs had taken over all federal institutions by force, even preventing a Croat like Mesic from becoming president, among many other things. That’s why they did nothing to stop Slovenia and Macedonia from leaving Yugoslavia, because there were no Serbs there. Thirty years later, some still think the Serbs were defending Yugoslav unity. 🤣
I was in Dubrovnik in 1990 after the communist regime was gone, it broke my heart to see this ancient city under attack from an autoritharian regime, short after the poeple thought they're free now....
It was under attack for a short time and damage was minimal, easily repaired. It became a functioning tourist destination in 1993, when Mostar was being shelled by Croatian troops into an apocalyptic wasteland.
This civil war serves as a lesson for many multicultural, multiethnic and multireligious nations. Yugoslavia had the fifth largest armed forces and one of the most prosperous societies in the Communist Bloc, but, that did not help to overcome ethnic and religious differences. Tito managed things well, but, after his death, the nation couldn't keep Serbian aggression down. Sadly, many lives were lost.
Yugoslavia didn't fall apart due to being multicultural or multi ethnic. They fell apart due to deep seated hatred between these groups and the socialist government's failure to resolve it. Hiding your issues and pretending they don't exist will lead to these problems. The second Tito died, the entire charade fell apart. Ignoring calls for peace and understanding between separate groups leads to conflict. Separate nations exist under the EU and it still functions, same in the US. It still works. Because there is dialog between groups. We need peace, not ignorance and blind racism between groups.
@@noco7243 the rise of the far right in the EU and the UK, including what Trump promises to bring to the USA is both dangerous and destabilising Yugoslavia had a domino effect which we can see for ourselves now in the West Multiculturalism has only worked well in Newzealand or to done Extent in Canada Elsewhere woke as a concept has failed
As Margaret Thatcher said: The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. After Tito's death the credit lines were cut and all of the communist military, intelligence and political leaders knew economic collapse is coming and different national factions within the communist party started to make plans who gets the leftovers. They partnered up with the nationalist who were up until that moment under constant reppresion by the communist regime which included breaking basic human right, assasinations, imprisonment etc. Federal army was controlled by the serbian faction with over 80% of officers being serbian nationality. In mid 80's the federal army reformed it's military districts. Before the reform, each of the 7 republics had its own district (+ the navy) and its own Territorial Defense. After the reform there were only 3 districts, and one of them was basiclly an outline of Great Serbia borders. The Territorial Defense was stripped of its weapons leaving the smaller republics defensless before the war even started. Weapons embargo was also put in place by the international community. A decision which favoured only the federal army which already had more then enoguh weapons. Military solution to the Yugoslav crisis was set in motion by the ones who controlled the army. Serbs. It was planned out and preparations were made a decade before the war began. So, no Yugoslavia was not prosperus, it wasn't even economicly sustainable without the international credit lines which were open only to Tito who (as a stone cold killer and a leader of the most organized anti-nazi gerilla movement) enjoyed great respect in the international community. The war wasn't fought over ethnic and religious differences it was fought over who gets what after Yugoslav economy collapses and ethnic and religious differences were only fuel to the fire. And last thing, from strategic point of view... it wasn't a civil war, it was textbook occupation of territory by a minority (rebel serbs) backed up by an invading force (federal army). Almost identical scenario as the start of invasion on Ukraine.
And to this day they cry about NATO intervening and stopping this nightmare. It may have caused civillian deaths, but the consequences of not intervening would have been catastrophic. If anything, we entered too late. It's so nice to see how well croatia is doing today, lovely country and nice people.
NATO did not intervene to save Croatia, but Albanians in Kosova. It has nothing to do with what happened in Dubrovnik, which was a clash between two armies after Croatia rejected the internal boundaries of Yugoslavia, meaning Croatia's borders or Croatian territory did not legally exist. Do not turn Croats into Kosovo Albanians. The shelling of an area that is defended is not a war crime. Either Dubrovnik was a civilian area and Croats were cowardly to not be defenders, or the area around Dubrovnik was indeed defended, which Croats indeed acknowledge as they are praising their veterans even on this channel. It can't be both! But Croats have normalized a contradiction: self-pity in which they are victims against insurmountable odds, and arrogance according to which they are a "regional power" in Europe. Croatia is the only country in the world where David is Goliath, and Goliath is David. Nobody had the idea Croatia was a victim, not in 1991, or in 1993, or in 1994, or even in 1995.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 croatia was recognized in 1992 by the UN and gets enough Support from the west (particullary germany)...because croatia was the victim of greater serbian aggression, nor croats ethnic cleansed serbs nor croats killed servian civilians... Serbs didnt accept boundared and authorities of any yugoslavian country + vojvodina, kosovo
There's nothing worse than a war between brothers sharing the same language and culture, as a spanish I know it pretty well... the scars of the civil war are still very fresh.
Ni danas ne staju Memorandum SANU 2 Sve od HRT-a pa do Sportskih Novosti i Faktografa.. Stranka Možemo je njihova, kao i APIS (Dimitrijevic) kuća u kojoj se broje naši glasački listići. Pametnom dosta
The video accurately claims that the Serbs (more precisely, the Serbian version of the Nazis - Chetniks) living in Montenegro were destroying the Croatian city of Dubrovnik. In this war crime, Serb Nazis - Chetniks were armed and supported by the heavily armed socialist-communist Yugoslav army. The saddest thing is that even after the whole civilized world watched in 1991 how the socialist-communist Yugoslav army united with the Serbian national-socialist Chetniks (Serbian version of Nazis) were savagely destroying the Croatian city of Dubrovnik, which is a jewel of world cultural heritage, thus embarrassing the Serbs and Serbia in front of the eyes of the whole world, even today, after the evil they did, one can hear and read how some of the Serbs declare without any shame that they will try to attack Dubrovnik again when they get the chance. The last major attacks by Serbian Nazis - Chetniks on the area of Dubrovnik was in August 1995, but even then they were stopped, defeated and suppressed by the Croatian army.
Total years imprisonment meted out by ICTY in criminal cases, by country: Montenegro: 17 Croatia: 300 In criminal cases against citizens against the Croatian state acting within the official organs of the Croatian state, the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia has meted out sentences in total of about 300 years, and named Croatia's elected leaders as members of a JCE (joint criminal enterprise) in a foreign country, Bosnia-Herzegovina. The crimes in question include everything short of genocide. The events in Mostar during 1993 meet the objective definition of Genocide under the Genocide Convention. Dubrovnik was a tourist destination in 1993; Mostar still has the scars of destruction by Croatian militants. Who really suffered & who were the real victims?
@@hasibhakanovic6682 On the part of the Bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington Accords in 1994, the Bosniaks killed 1,051 Croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soldiers prisoners of war, a total of 1,695, and 152,950 Croats escaped and were exiled, and that is only those for whom there is documentation... Croats did nothing wrong, they defended themselfs
@@user-tk3cb6im5o ICTY for you means Tudjman regime news portals and Slobodan Praljak's self-published manuscripts. Hrvoje, are we up to our 10th sock puppet account?
serbs would do the same today if only they could..but they cannot 'cause Croatia is not anymore defended by a groups of lightly armed civilians and police,now Croatia have a respected army which is a NATO member also.
Croatia has basically no army at all. The younger generation of Croats has no military training. If war began, which it will not as Serbia does not pose any threat to Croatia, Croats would simply leave their country for Germany en masse. It's not a respected member of NATO because its electorate puts into power a president who regularly attacks NATO in front of the press.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 actually mooslims from bosnia are all in germany, austria, sweden etc. live as asylum seekers...and at least croats dosnt lick serbian btts like mooslims do who almost extermianted you
ALARM: This comment section is full of Nationalists from both sides, proceed with caution and ignore any comments written on any of the Slavic languages. Trust me I am a Croat and I have experience with both side’s nationalists, they are mostly early teens who try to assert dominance
@@Marijan-fg4mdOf course I support my homeland, but I do not support the absolute hate between us and Serbs and spreading hate about each other’s country
@@B1_Bis there is no apsolute hate ,there are good and bad people in every nation , but when the bad raise their head from there, after all they did and never apologized nor many punished for war crimes, i will not just do nothing. We know and the world knows who was the agresor and probably would do the same if had the chance.
The essence of the war had nothing to do with Croatia, except Croatia wanted to divide, with Serbia, the state of Bosnia-Herzegovina. Everything else is pure self-victimization from the Croats. The Serb attack on Croatia was after Croatia had embraced the idea internal boundaries could be changed and did not matter, believing this would not be to Croatia's detriment -- and the Serbs and Montenegrins simply took that to the logical conclusion, which is Croatia's borders no longer needed to be the as its internal boundaries in Yugoslavia. For this reason, there was no "aggression", only armies fighting for territory. It was when Croatia was losing territory that it cried foul. More civilians were killed by the Croatian Army in Gornji Vakuf and Mostar than by the Serbs and Montenegrins in Dalmatia. If Croats were existentially endangered and threatened by Serbia, why did they send half their arsenal to fight Bosniaks in 1993? There is no explanation, of course. Just the anticipation Croats' victim narrative will be accepted, and Croats think like this because they do not hear opposing views. Croatia's genocide lawsuit against Serbia ended with a loss for Croatia, at a profound financial cost to Croatia. I wonder how many people in Croatia this caused to re-think their preconceived notions about the war... Probably zero.
@@CharlieTheAstronaut That's moral relativism. The reality is: Croatia denies its army was ever in BiH. One "side" therefore denies the most basic of demonstrable fact, the reason being it is engaged in systematic war crimes and wishes to avoid responsibility as a state. It's not about whose side, it's about evidence and where it leads. And people are perfectly capable of evaluating evidence. Most of what I have written has been known since 1993 by anybody who chooses to listen.
@@CharlieTheAstronaut I wonder from your comments how much time you have spent thinking through what you are saying and what it would imply. Do you deny before a bullet was fired, Serbia and Croatia had agreed to divide BiH at Karadjordjevo '91? Because this is denied, but also demonstrable fact. When the United Nations Security Council decreed Croatia as a state was a participant in aggression against a Member State, Bosnia-Herzegovina, was it "taking sides"? I'm guessing it's "taking sides" if a Bosnian states the same thing, correct? I quote American diplomats, international diplomats, ICTY judgements, ICJ judgements, historians such as Noel Malcolm and Josip Glaurdic -- that is my source of information. And just because facts hurt, doesn't mean they're not true.
Im from Serbia, and while I dont live there any more, I did spend 15 years of my life there. And from the banter here and there, I have never heard anyone younger ever say anything against Croatia. Also many here are saying that the Serbian mentality is that Dubrovnik is Serbian. This is the first time that I have head that. Let past stay in the past. Both sides have more than enough skeletons in the closet. We are all the same people, and this civil war was brought on by selfish politicians and a dumb population, on all sides. None of us are better off because we split up, regardless of who is in which camp. We all have zero military and financial might. And as such are invisible on the world stage. And the only thing that can happen by holding grudges is more war in the future.
If your statemen is true, the war would be fought on the territory of Serbia also. The war started because your side had an army and we did not, and because your political leadership believed that they could take all Bosnia and part of Croatia and annex it to Serbia. Your leaders were so crazy from that burden that they even supported a military coup in Russia against Yeltsin. We had the misfortune to find ourselves on the path of your tanks towards the planned new borders of Serbia. There was no JNA barracks or its combat units in Dubrovnik. They all comes from your sides. Branitelj Dubrovnika
@@nednorth8883 Sure, and you can hold a grudge and not move on. All the politicians were pulling towards their own side, and not focusing on what was the best for the nation. The only thing not moving on gets us is another war later on where our kids will die because we could not let go. Again ,we are the same people. Life goes on. France and the UK were at war for centuries, and now they are good neighbors who trade and work together. Its because they dont have the problem that our people do. Passing on generational traumas.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 On the part of the Bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington Accords in 1994, the Bosniaks killed 1,051 Croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soldiers prisoners of war, a total of 1,695, and 152,950 Croats escaped and were exiled, and that is only those for whom there is documentation...
@@maksym_x because Croatia had nothing and won against 4th rated military power in Europe and Ukraine is getting everything and still losing against so called weak and old military that is Russia. Also Ukraine has independence and Croatia didnt.
@@lukazulj9554 There are some differences between these two wars, but the same thing is happening in Ukraine which happened to us in Croatia. We were both attacked by our imperialistic neighbours who outnumber and outgun us. Remember, we won after 4-5 years, after we already lost a good chuck of our territory. The main difference is the sheer size of Ukraine/Russia war and the majority of it being in the trenches.
@@RicoBanani Niste svi nacisti naravno, ali Vaša država se do danas nije obračunala sa neoustaštvom. Moje skromno mišljenje je da je za Vašu državu i društvo bolje da se distancira od tekovina NDH, prvenstveno ideologije i identifikacije sa tim periodom. Pogledaj samo one idiote koji idu u Blajburg. Kada bi u Nemačkoj velika grupa u full SA uniformama donosili cveće na Hajdrihov grob to bi bio skandal svetskih razmera. Ali ne smeju jer je to država zabranila i obračunala se sa ideologijom. Što se tiče ovih bombi sramota ali računaj da je Beograd bio komunistički sve do 5. oktobra 2000. godine. U to nema sumnje. Nema izgovora za ovo ali 46 godina su JNA vodile ideološki zatucane komunjare, koji su sanjali da održe SFRJ.
i don't know if it is a video montage that makes it that way but this is the stupidest bombardment that i have seen, wtf are they even shooting at, having large arsenal of larger bombs and they use artillery shells and small caliber ballistics missiles and mortar to hit buildings......... doesn't make any sense
@@hasibhakanovic6682 That's different. The Croats in Mostar were betrayed by their Muslim comrades, whom they armed and defended against the Serbs. After that, the Muslims stabbed them in the back. So, there were elements of revenge.
@@MrSatelit28 That's great. Is that why the Croatian Army denies ever stepping foot in Mostar and Gornji Vakuf? Is the "betrayal" the reason Mostar was shelled into apocalypse, Prozor was looted for over a week (then burnt to the ground) and Stolac, outside of any war zone, massively destroyed? I am interested to know your source of information. Would I be correct in guessing it is state-controlled mass media in Croatia or writings of participants in the war? In June 1992, Mostar was where Zagreb militias under the effective control of Zagreb, who were overwhelmingly non-native to Mostar or the Neretva Basin, pulled off a coup against the elected local government, replacing the Crisis Staff and Mayor Milivoj Gagro, with Jadranko Topic, guaranteeing war would happen in the future. In October 1992, Prozor came under attack by regular units of the Croatian Army dressed in 1940s uniforms, and the entire town was looted. Of course, it's "different". Because it's you. And the insurmountable obstacle to Croatia on a mission to convince the world of its moral righteousness -- and failing to do so for over 30 years. And of course, nobody serious outside Croatia believes Croats, sentenced to 300 years imprisonment by an international court, are not guilty of aggression and systematic war crimes.
@@MrSatelit28 You're right about the difference: How many civilians died in Dubrovnik versus Mostar? Can you tell me any major battles that occurred between "Croats in Mostar" and "Serbs"? Can you list names of killed/captured officers, where important battles took place, as well as casualty counts on your side and the enemy side? Can you tell me, roughly, what percentage of Serb deaths in the Bosnian War happened due to Croatian Army in/around Mostar? The answers to these questions tell a familiar story: There were no infantry battles or documented conflict between "Croats in Mostar" and Serbs. Serbs, in a very orderly fashion, withdrew along the entire Konavle Ravno Dubrovnik Mostar Stolac line in a day, taking their arsenals to Nevesinje, and the Croatian Army (not "Croats in Mostar") "conquered" undefended and unoccupied territory. There was not a single bullet fired anywhere in or around Mostar, let alone Stolac, because there was nobody to fight. When fighting began in Bosnia, and in fact before that, when fighting began in Croatia, about fifty percent of Croats either fled to Western Herzegovina or to Croatia, and it was Bosniaks who predominantly bore the burden of defense of all major cities of BiH. It was the realization of the Graz Agreement, which was a formalization of Karadjordjevo '91, where Tudjman and Milosevic agreed to the division of BiH at the expense of Bosniaks. Croats and Bosniaks were never comrades -- Bosniaks overwhelmingly fought in the TO that Croats sought to disarm. Croats never anticipated Bosniaks would form an organized resistance, and in transcripts of Croatian discussions, you can hear Tudjman believing he could simply position his forces and take administrative control of wherever he wanted. This was guaranteed to cause war.
Horror, I was 8 years old then, we spent about 140 days in the city without electricity and water under daily artillery attacks, but we survived✌️💪.
One of the hardest days was on daybreak of Dec 6th, when JNA army launched an all-out attack on Dubrovnik. Heavy artillery, air strikes and naval support from ships. It was like day in Hell.
sounds like mariupol as well
@@Adonnus100real
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The most bizzare part is that Serbs adamantly claim, to this day, that Dubrovnik is "theirs", and that its culture, literature, art and history belongs to them. But still they bombard it and do their best to burn it down. There's something psychiatric in all that.
If the Serbs could, they would claim Tokyo and sushi was theirs too.
@@tomislavb5760did you know that Jesus Christ is also serbian along with Moses !😂😂😂
Crazy people do not know they are crazy...psychiatric indeed.
@@ArcturianLessons what do you say about Jesus and Moses? Dont insult the Faith you piece of you know what i mean. Let Jesus Out of that mf
Only things destroyed in Dubrovnik were houses which housed terrorists, also that footage from a hilltop view of Dubrovnik burning, i hope you have eyes and can notice thats fucking tires piled up on the harbor (of which there is pics on the internet to prove it as well)
Mr. Davies is very brave, I saw him at Hotel Argentina and he didn't hide and lay on the floor, and he came to Srđ Hill during the Serbian offensive on the fortress, which for me as a soldier was an obligation and for him bravery was associated with adventure. Thank him!
Still the Serbs have the nerve to claim they are the victim
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja..
Wake up 🙏
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja..
Wake up 🙏
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja..
Wake up 🙏
@@LukaVP Galbrajt: "[The] Croatian Army was in Bosnia because the Bosnian Croats were losing the Muslim-Croat war. And it was in essence a defensive effort[... The Croats] were [...] afraid that if they withdrew the Croatian Army, [...] the Army of Bosnia-Herzegovina would be victorious and they would lose a lot of territory. [The UN] statement was also an ultimatum, of which the US was a co-author, to Croatia, that it had two weeks to get out of Bosnia and Herzegovina, otherwise it would face sanctions and probably severe sanctions, similar to those that were on Belgrade."
Typical ...maybe that's what they have in common with RS
As Montenegrin, I feel and I felt utter sadness and eternal shame for this happening to our neighbor city. I watched this clip with tears in my eyes. May God forgive us for what we have done to Croatia.
Did you also cry and watch in horror when a journalist was furious at the croats for putting cannons on Hotels and hospitals endangering the reporters who were there?
Neponovilo se brate. Veliki pozdravi iz dalmacije. Takođet pozdrav svin normalnin i poštenin ljudima, diljen cile planete
@@12123188he didn't because it's not according to the common "truth"
@@12123188 Utter bollocks
@@i1bike 💒
The Republic of Serbia officialy lists Dubrovnik as their own cultural heritage location. This may be historic footage, but Serbian pretense over Croatia is still present at the highest levels.
That's why their EU path is blocked. If Aleksandar Vucic continues with his rhetoric and sabotages in the Balkans, there will be sanctions against Serbia once again.
Serbs were not permitted to spend a night inside Dubrovnik city wally during the existance of Dubrovnik republic, that's how much "Serbian" city was.
Not to mention Serb Nemanjic dynasry waged 5 wars aginst Dubrovnik in the middle ages, than the Schyzmatics again attacked with Russians in 1806. killing more people than in 1991. and destroxying 60% o Dubrovnik republic architecture
Western Herzegovinian lobby is still presenting the Stari Most as "Croatian cultural heritage". 😁So it's quite funny to read comments about Serbs and Dubrovnik, when Croats claim Mostar, which did not even have a Catholic church until 1868. (I wonder how many Croats know this?)
@@hasibhakanovic6682 that is not the official position of the Croatian state, it is not taught in Croatian schools, nor are Croatian institutions promoting it. so don't compare things that can't be compared.
@@guguigugu Most famous promoter of the "Croatian Mostar" is no less than Croat representative currently in the EU parliament Zeljana Zovko... that is an official. HDZ BiH is an offshoot of Croatia's HDZ. Is there a position relayed by officials that is not "official"? Another "official position of the Croatian state": the Croatian Army was not in Mostar and Gornji Vakuf, BiH circa 1993.
We're fed up with Croatian hypocrisy.
Mr. Davies and his journalistic team broke through the physical and media blockade imposed by the Serbian aggressor, thus helping the truth reach the world. In this way, he alleviated the suffering of the people of Dubrovnik and likely prevented other possible suffering that could have followed
Yes and also he was with serbians in Vukovar spreading lies about CIVIL WAR in Croatia, not serbian brutal agression.
@@malicrni A proper journalist then, not a puppet of nationalist propaganda.
Sto se drugo moglo ocekivati od barbara s istoka sto oni znaju o kulturi ima nesto iznimaka koji su bili u evropi a većina je ztucana masa
@@milemili9337 Ti ces da pricas o kulturi bedo jedna ...jedina nacija na svetu koja je imala logore za decu tokom srugog svetskog rata
@@WgCdrLuddite "waaah waah, MaInStReAm MeDiA bAd! waaah"
At the exact same time as Dubrovnik was being hit on the south of Croatia, on the east a small border town of Vukovar had to go through something far more sinister then Dubrovnik.
Vukovar is considered croatian Alamo. Outnumbered and outgunned it was expected to be captured by the federal army within a few days, but it took them almost 3 months with massive casulties and a switch in moral from confident to frustrated. That frustration led to numerous attrocities after the town finnaly fell and for the first time in human histroy ethnic cleansing was used as a term to describe what was going on.
Vukovar witnessed Stalingrad level of destruction and after it was captured, local non-serb population, along with wounded and captured croatian soldiers were subject to mass torture, rape and executions in the town itself and later on in multiple concentraion camps across Serbia.
lol 95% of lies
croatians talking about camps😅😅😅
@@dm011Serbian Nationalist spotted as soon as someone posts war footage that is their response
@@dm011What he wrote that's a lie?
Concentration Camps in Serbia? ITS funny when croats Talk about Camps. The inventors of gradiska and jasenovac
@@MnOl1979 There is a gap of 45 years between jasenovac and vukovar. People who were responsible for jasenovac were dead for a very long time.
All the crimes i mentioned are well documented by court verdicts in haague, belgrade and zagreb.
I would recommned you read a book called "prezivio sam vukovar i ovcaru" but i doubt you'll read it.
List of serbian concentration camps 1990-1995:
logor Aleksinac
logor Banja Luka
logor Batkovići
logor Begejci
logor Beli Manastir
logor Bileća
logor Borovo Selo
logor Bubanj potok
logor Bućje
logor Dalj
logor Darda
logor Duboki potok
logor Glina
logor Jagodnjak
logor Knin
logor Manjača
logor Morinj
logor Negoslavci
logor Niš
logor Novi Sad
logor Okučani
logor Ovčara
logor Petrovci
logor Sombor
logor Sremska Mitrovica
logor Stajićevo
logor Stara Gradiška
logor Šid
logor Velepromet
logor VIZ Beograd
logor Zapis Vukovar
logor Zenica
logor Tumare (Ozren)
logor Rosulje (Ozren)
logor Vozuća
And remember, Croatia did not have an army to defend their country. They used remining soldiers from JNA, and the police. And even more aggravating was the UN putting a weapon embargo on Croatia....
But croatian attacked bosnians too?
@@paulizzs4720 bosnians attacked croats
If Croatia had got an army what do you think they would of done? What do you think Russia would of done? You sir, are stupid and like a woman. Not an ounce of stategic thought in you. You just follow your emotions.
Well Croatia is ethnically cleanest state of Europe. A state rasied on biggest genocide in entire history of Southeastern Europe.
You Croatian lies are same as war propaganda 1990s.
And of course Germans armed Croats to attack yugoslavian children i.e. conscripts in army barracks.
And heavy Vatican and NATO propaganda, as this footage 😅
Thank you very much for this upload, ITN.
ITN's Paul Davies and camera operator Nigel Thomson are heroes for documenting this.
What kind of rabid beasts attack defenseless town with artillery shells, bombs, rockets?
Barbarian hordes from the east, from Montenegro and Serbia, attacked unarmed and defenseless city.
plans were created somewhere in western centers of power and sadly they managed to find few politicians to implement that sick plan. nobody wanted a war, we could negotiate for some years to find a model to reforme country or to break up, just to avoid that bloody war.
It's no surprise they're so close with Russia. Identical nations, same degenerate mentality, imperialism, delusion and bloodthirst.
As much as i agree with the general sentiment, calling it a defenceless city is a serious insult to the Croatian defenders
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Wrong conclusion, Sir. There was no insult to defenders.
Defenseless city in a sense that, in those days, the city had no heavy arms to defend itself against aggressor's war ships, war airplanes, infantry cannons, tanks...
@@vinkovinko9605 Total years imprisonment meted out by ICTY in criminal cases, by nationality:
Montenegro: 17
Croatia: 300
Today, Serbia is ruled by those who shot in Dubrovnik. The Serbs have never truly apologized for this, to this day they say that this is a Serbian city and that the Croats burned tires in Dubrovnik to falsely accuse the Serbs of destroying Dubrovnik. Only a very sick people can do that.
Similarly, Croats say the "Muslims" destroyed the Stari Most, also that it was a legitimate military target for them. They didn't raze Stolac, Mostar and Gornji Vakuf, they in fact helped the "Muslims" too. Helped the Muslims so much they deny what their army was doing in 1993. The war crimes-supporting HDZ has been elected into power by the will of Croats, and it's not like Croats ever had a Zoran Djindic moment. Your moral righteousness is fake and nobody outside Croatia buys it.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 an islamic jihadist and ISIL supporter talks about Moral 😂😂😂😂
I am so glad the Croats are free from the Serbian/Russian occupation. I visited Croatia over 10 times, I also visited Serbia and I must admit these are two different types of people, two different mentalities. The Serbs also use 'Russian letters' (cyrillic alphabet) so that explains a lot about who is their master.
The fact that Serbs bombed a UNESCO World Heritage site (Dubrovnik since 1979) speaks a lot about how mean they are.
So the Ukrainians and Bulgarians also used 'Russian alphabet', so what?
@@postgradsibstud9321But they did not bombed UNESCO world heritage. You now Mr. Djojlen?
Operation Storm was the single-most decisive battle of the Croatian War for Independence. Launched by the Republic of Croatia in August 1995, it was the largest European land battle since the Second World War. The success of this remarkable military action by Croatia came after four years of brutal fighting. Outnumbered, outgunned, but not outmaneuvered, this tiny new democracy prevailed in a David versus Goliath battle, a moral as well as military victory by an exceptional people. Storm ended the massive humanitarian disaster and genocide committed by the Serbian Army and Chetnik terrorists. It led to the liberation of one third of Croatian territory seized by the enemy, and it made possible the Dayton Agreement that brought peace to the region. This film documents the events surrounding this extraordinary battle, demonstrating that Croatia, along with its army and generals, deserve commendation from the world community, if not a Nobel Peace Prize. ua-cam.com/video/nKoUo8vzRnc/v-deo.html
@@postgradsibstud9321 Well, it explains a lot. Ukraine has lost a lot of its territories because their population has been heavily 'russified'. This is why they are losing Donbas and have lost Crimea. A lot of their population supported (at least initially) the Russians. And Bulgarians? Well, similar story. This has changed now but initially many Bulgarians (including a friend of mine) were absolutely sure than if the Russians attacked then they must have had a good reason.
What determines your views is not your passport but your culture, including your language or alphabet.
You and your Catholic friends need to take history lesson... Cyrillic has nothing to do with Russian but come from Bulgaria and Macedonia... it also has nothing to do historically with either Serbia or Russia. Croatia was buying weapons from Russia and has extensive dealings with Russia which exist to this day. There was no Serbian "occupation" because there was no legal Croatian territory, Croatia rejected sovereign borders of BiH and had agreed to the division of BiH with Slobodan Milosevic at Karadjordjevo in March 1991 and by implication the legal basis for its own territorial claims, meaning the territory in question was not sovereign nor rightfully any state's, nor could be. Milosevic attacked Croatia only when Croatia rejected the internal boundaries of Yugoslavia, and Croatia complained only because the victims were themselves rather than Bosniaks.
These videos exist and you'll have Serbs say they're the victims being assaulted 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I mean look at Belgrade in 1999
You have videos about that too. Besides that, just look at the demographics of Yugoslavia before WW2, 1991 and now.
I mean, look at Dubrovnik, Vukovar, Sarajevo 🤷@@itzpro5951
@@itzpro5951 So serbs started 3 genocidal wars and then get bombed by NATO after starting the 4th, yeah they were victims for suuure
@@12123188yeah, hundresds of thousands of croats and bosniaks enthnicly clensed by serbs trying to make "Great Serbia".
Kakva tuga, kad se sjetim tih dana kad je pocelo. Imao sam 8 godina, u vinkovackom podrumu gledamo iste slike svaki dan, Vukovar - Dubrovnik (i ostali gradovi naravno, ali ova dva su bila u fokusu). Ne ponovilo se nikada ljudi ne budite ludi!
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja..
Wake up 🙏
Puno hrvatskih ratnika, naših vitezova, ostavilo je svoje kosti na brdima oko Dubrovnika tjerajući barbare iz trebinja i iz crne gore nazad u svoje vukojebine. Dubrovniče, simbolu slobode, nikada ne zavoravi svoje zaštinike, mladost koja se nesebično odazvala na tvoj poziv u pomoć. Neka im je vječna slava i hvala
Lol
Mlatis za njih 10
Bravo za komentar 🙏
Poz iz Splita 🙋♀️🇭🇷✝️
@@ivan.jeremicajde genocidni ne izmišljaj servulske bajke
This aggression was carried out by Montenegrins under the command of Belgrade, but it does not excuse them; they attempted to carve up Croatia, but in the end, and thankfully, the Croats freed themselves from Serbian control forever.
Just as the majority of Croats are not responsible for Jasenovac, the whole of Montenegro was not responsible for Dubrovnik either.It was about backward people, people of the transition from communism and socialism to national chauvinism, and blackmailed by dismissal from their jobs. At that time, most people did not know that Serbia had staged a coup d'état and overthrown the old Montenegrin leadership and brought its people loyal to Milosevic to power. Using propaganda and false with the news that the Croats had bombed Herceg Novi, they worked to increase hatred and to make it easier to take action against Dubrovnik. Some high-ranking Montenegrin officers were killed or committed suicide because they were against it. A large number of reservists refused to respond to the military call-up and throughout Montenegro numerous rallies were organized against the war and the bombing of Dubrovnik. Many Montenegrin intellectuals and writers condemned the war campaign on Dubrovnik and many other things....
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I'm not referring to the Montenegrin people as a whole, not at all, but rather to the military leadership that acted under the orders of Milosevic and the other butchers of Belgrade.
@@gottmituns813 I know, I just described the situation at that time, I was the first to not respond to the call to the reserve and thank God I was never in the reserve since the end of my military service in 1989. in Split until today.
They called for military service until the campaign in Kosovo and the bombing of Serbia and Montenegro, but I never went to them...
They terrorized us with calls and the police, but that didn't give results, so they decided to mobilize their like-minded people...They had some like-minded people who responded, but it was not much. Although they didn't need much peoples because they knew they could not resist NATO, but they terrorized society with that minority until the referendum.
@@MBA-PRODUCTION
Do you consider Bulatović the main responsible for what happened?.
@@gottmituns813 All three are responsible, but he is the one who was able to distance himself from Serbia and Milosevic... He agreed to Carrington's plan, which angered Milosevic and he threatened them already at the meeting.... When he returned by plane from a meeting abroad Belgrade pressed him again and he changed his decision...
Criminal hordes striked Dubrovnik with their bloody hands, shame.
The third time in history...
operation storm?
@@lopov9 You mean the military operation that was a counter attack at the end of the war liberating the land that belonged to Croatia before Serbs invanded it and genocided everyone there and it was never classified as an attack on civilian population except by serb nationalists?
What about it?
Now tell us about Mostar, Stolac, Zenica. 🤓
@@hasibhakanovic6682 whataboutism
Troops from Serbia and Montenegro attacked and bombed UNESCO Dubrovnik, a world heritage site. The Serbs and its allies pillaged and looted the Croatian countryside around Dubrovnik. They burnt houses down and dragged away Croatian civilians and POWs to the notorious "Morinj camp" which was located in Montenegro, where people were beaten, tortured and murdered.
There were no people killed in that camp .... The High Court in Podgorica found with a final criminal verdict that war crimes were committed against prisoners of war in the form of physical abuse in the Gathering Center of the Yugoslav People's Army (JNA) in Morinje. Four people were sentenced to prison terms for this - Ivo Gojnić to two years, Boro Gligić to three years, Špiro Lučić to three years and Ivo Menzalin to a prison sentence of four years. The court established that "an atmosphere of terror and fear for bare life reigned in the Morinj Collection Center to which the victims were constantly exposed".
No one speaks enough about slav Montenegrins being complicit with Serbians in the war.
@@freespiritable
Census 2011 in Montenegro
278,865 thousand Montenegrins,
Bosniaks 53,605,
30,439 Albanians,
20,537 Muslims,
6,021 Croats,
Serbs 178,110
Pro-Montenegro population 389,467
Serbs 178,110 /Serbs in Montenegro are mostly a political category that was created by assimilation and Serbian persecution for 150 years./
Anti-bureaucratic revolution is a term used to describe a series of mass protests,
as well as related political events and processes in the second half of 1988 and the first half of 1989 when
the overthrown leaderships of Vojvodina, Montenegro and Kosovo.
In essence, these were secret actions of the Serbian service, which overthrew the leadership in those provinces of Serbia and in the Republic of Montenegro....
That's how the leadership installed by Milosevic came to Montenegro and manipulated people, stole elections and the referendum from the nineties, etc.With that pro-Serbian population of 28 percent, they have stolen elections and a repressive apparatus against the Montenegrin-oriented majority population.
first of all, they were against the state of Montenegro itself and its survival and independence, and then also against the environment.
Of those 178,000 that they have in their pro-Serbian bloc of 650,000 inhabitants of Montenegro
with all the above-mentioned circumstances, they collected, according to estimates, about 7000 to 20000
reservists who were sent to Dubrovnik... And that's it. That's how the whole of Montenegro was compromised. ////////////////// Regarding the theory of Slavic origin - The largest genetic research on the Montenegrin population conducted in Houston USA produced the following results.
Coming from the first Europeans, 23,000 years and older - 35% of the population, the second is the African group - 25%,
in third place are the proto-Celts, followed by the Slavs with only -8%
@@freespiritable Ma nijesu oni, otkud bi.
What about Croatian war crimes? Jasenovac in ww2 and operation storm
Before serbs attacked dubrovnik they stated.. we will make the city nicer and older … today they claim Dobrovnik is serbian 🫣
Whole balkan is serbian according to them...
@@jonomobono3223They'll be lucky to hold onto all of Belgrade one day.
They would drown if they fell of the shore, wallachians
@@jonomobono3223 Same mentality of their muscovite chums. 🤮
Сигурно😂😂😂@@mattbarbarich3295
My uncle Qenan Selmani was wounded defending the city that day I remember he said that he was missing part of frontal bone but kept fighting because he was on the mount srdz fortress
Thank him in the name of all people of Croatia, I hope he is well now?
@@mrki412there was Albanian volunteers that supported Croatian war of independence against JNA, the guys uncle may have been one of them
The same uncle who's religion and islamist ways ended up killing a family of Serbians on a wedding which is what caused the genocides.
Terorista koji je napadao Jugoslaviju i JNA
Very interesting, if your uncle was in Mostar in 1993 as a Muslim, he would have had no place to celebrate Eid. The Croats can tell you why, they know better than anybody.
Sono stato a Dubrovnik quando ero piccolo, dopo la guerra, ero in vacanza.
Ora che guardo queste immagini mi rattrista moltissimo perchè ricordo della bellissima città che ho visitato e di quanto è bella la Croazia.
Mi ricordo ancora dei muri bucati dalle pallottole e di mio padre che mi diceva, "qui c'è stata la guerra", avevo 10 anni.
Dubrovnik è stupenda e la Croazia l'ho visitata tutta, da nord fino a sud, a Dubrovnik.
Vi voglio bene Croati, un italiano.
As an Aussie, with a large Croatian community in all capital cities, I was always looking forward to traveling to Croatia on holiday. Hands down, one of my favourite places I've visited. They have a great sense of humour and in their own way found humour when recalling the siege on Dubrovnik. I had a tour guide on canoes who was a policeman at the time and they were used on the front lines just alongside any able soldier who could form some sort of defence. He laughed about the shocking shortage of weapons and their small arms against the scary weaponary of the Serbs, almost a ridiculous mismatch but they made it through in one way or another. The Croatians were lovely to us and I'll definitely visit again and look forward to hearing the stories from the locals who were happy to tell them with a nice demeanor.
Yes, the Serbs are mostly big cowards.
they smuggled weapons and raided federal armory's there was no "shortage" of weapons or ammo when it came to massacaring Serbian villagers that later turned into rebels or so to speak.
what are you talking about? It was only a mismatch in terms of it being whole nato vs just few ethnic serbs in croatia. It ended in ethnic cleansing of all serbs from lands where they lived for hundreds of years.
@@KolyaUrtzhahaha it's so funny that Serbs keep spewing their lies and nobody in the world believes them
Be sure to visit Mostar, especially the eastern areas where you can still see signs of destruction by Croatian militants & extremists. They can tell you about Croatian "humor".
Serbs wanted to demolish completely the old town of Dubrovnik.
They did that with the town of Vukovar unfortunately, and many other small towns and villages in Croatia, but also in Bosnia and Herzegovina..
Only things on fire in the old city were roofs of modern buildings and tires that were piled up on the harbor to make it seem like the city was being destroyed. Also, don't you remember what YOU guys did to us in 14-18, 41-45 AND in 90-95? How many Serb people were expelled from Zadar? How many Serb houses and shops were raided and destroyed in Zadar...
@@MilicijaKrajine How many thousands of Croats and muslims were killed from 1991 to 1995 all across croatia and bosnia, i'm pretty sure Serbs attacked and genocided other nations first
...why are you lying and demonizing an entire ethnicity???
Dubrovnik was a tourist destination in 1993. Mostar still has the signs of destruction by Croatian-aligned militants and the Croatian Army, which you can see to this day. It's interesting to watch the Croats play an interesting game where they alternate between roles of justifying aggression & genocide and self-pity, it mostly depends on who is watching, how informed they are, & what they determine they can get away with saying. If they're talking to fellow Croats who have been told they were victims of Serb "aggression", all the better. It's a wonder they don't all become lawyers and defend themselves at the ICTY?
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja..
Wake up 🙏
I've heard stories that during the bigger part of the siege, Srđ would be guarded by 30 men atmost.
The overall strength of both sides was Yugoslavia ~ 30.000 and Croatia ~ 430-900
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If you could have fought 30:1, you would have not lost territory in BiH and Croatia, but you lost nearly everything. You constructed a war myth and believe it.
That's true, but Serb infantry wasn't that big either. Compared to Vukovar this was quite a small battle, only the barbarism of the attacker with its senseless bombardment made it look bigger.
@@LloydChristmas983 "senseless bombardment"... Mostar, Gornji Vakuf and Zenica. I would have listed Prozor, if it hadn't been burnt down.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 today croats held 100% of croatia and 25 % of bosnia...while bosniaks held only 22% of bosnia...
Interestingly those who are complaining are bosnians and not serbs
Ironic
Even today serbs are dreamin about "Serbian world and greater Serbia". This includes Dubrovnik. According to them Marin Držić is a serb. The idea si passed on from chetnik in commamd, president Vučić.
its one of the worst evils to lie about someones motives to justify your violence against them. Stop doing that. No serbs ever said that, stop lying.
I mean Dubrovnik is more Serbian historically
@@daniloungeinc.5102 Serbs were not permitted to spend a night inside Dubrovnik city wally during the existance of Dubrovnik republic, that's how much "Serbian" city was.
Not to mention Serb Nemanjic dynasry waged 5 wars aginst Dubrovnik in the middle ages, than the Schyzmatics again attacked with Russians in 1806. killing more people than in 1991. and destroxying 60% o Dubrovnik republic architecture.
@@daniloungeinc.5102Haha you turkish people are very funny 😂
@@KolyaUrtz Violence against who ? Serbian city of Dubrovnik ? What is wrong with you. Kolya, they said exactly that.
Dubrovački bedemi zaštitili još jednom grad od pirata.
We Croats know that British policy then supported the preservation of Yugoslavia and John Major personally supported Serbian aggression against Croatia. Never forget and never forgive.
So what? Maybe that was a good idea. Maybe they knew Croatians were extremist and their government harbored desires of conquest in BiH, 300 years your lot was sentenced to in the Hague.
Disgusting people. 🤢
Tuta, Ivan Korade, Mirko Norac... how does anybody come to like your lot? The reason Croatia experienced four years of 'aggression' is your Vrhovnik, instead of sending Croatian arms to occupied territories in Croatia where Croats had a 10:1 advantage in human resources, sent them to Mostar, Gornji Vakuf and Prozor in BiH where Croats were less than 8% of the population... genius.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 Don't make me start listing Bosniak crimes against Croats.... Don't make me remind you who said "This is not our war", while the Serbs literally burned to the ground a village in BiH where the majority are Croats. So, don't start, pls
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja..
Wake up 🙏
@@petarsaric5848 I'm happy for you to list Bosniak crimes, because we know where that goes... any objective would know which list would be bigger... 300 years imprisonment not because of what Serbs or Bosniaks said but because the ICTY determined Croatia was an aggressor and its senior military-political leadership were criminals. This includes all levels of government all the way down to the pettiest Croatian fanatics like Tuta.
Sitting in the prosecutors office in BiH are volumes of crimes committed by Croatian citizens on the territory of BiH, including places like Vrbanja - where Croat militants massacred about seventy civilians in the span of an hour. It's not a surprise most Croatians do not know what Croatia was up to when they do not know their regular army was present in BiH throughout 1993.
Please read the speeches you quote in full... you might be surprised to see the quote has absolutely nothing to do with what you think it does. The speech has been addressed before, including by Croatian officials, as a misrepresentation. President Izetbegovic was addressing Bosniaks in relation to the JNA's mobilization of Bosniaks to be sent to the Croatian front, and this had nothing to do with "Serbs burning down a village" but whether Bosniaks would be sent to fight in Croatia in places like Slavonia at a time Croatia was losing territory by the day and was nearing military exhaustion. So, we see that a civilizational gesture to the Croats that Bosniaks should not join the JNA is used an excuse to sack Prozor...
The takeaway is Croats are full of ill-will, and there is absolutely no talking sense to them. All they've ever been told are lies. What Zagreb understands, and respects, is force.
Even now, some Serbs are claiming that the columns of black smoke were the Croatians burning tyres.
Some things never change...
yeah because that was part of the blockades burning tires on the road was a good way to stop vehicles from coming in onto streets so that they can ambush them.
funny how 99% of these comments are "some serbs thinks this and that".
"some things never change" TRUE, some people truly didnt change from ww2...i wonder who lmaooo. When will you change? when will you make humanity better?
@@KolyaUrtz I wonder why there's neo nazi gangs in Croatia then. PS Croatia didn't declare independence during the war it was still a federal republic that wanted to break off by that time on top of that keep coping and cry longer Ztard pfp Russia loves the Serbs not you
@@KolyaUrtzhahaha whole world likes us while whole world hates u. Easy w
@@marcopolio111 completely false. People like Croatia because of the coast...and nothing else. No people hate the Serbs except Zionists and US's deep state. Regular people ether don't care or, those who were in Serbia or know about it's history, love it. Who wouldn't love s heroic nation with badass history, extremely hospitable culture and kind people?
Malo kad pomislim da smo pretjerali 95-te pogledam ovo i vidm da nismo.
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja..
Wake up 🙏
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja..
Wake up 🙏
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja..
Wake up 🙏
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On serbian tv at the time they claimed that Dubrovnik had ustasha from Singapore (!!??)
That arround 20 thousand ustasha are in the city. While on the hill you see fired upon, Srđ, there were 18 (EIGHTEEN) ppl defending
To my brothers that gave their life - rest in peace
Yes, that was funny... but maybe you have a short memory? Croats typically do.
I also heard on Croatian web portals and in official propaganda that 50,000 soldiers from the Army of Bosnia-Herzegovina were besieging the poor Croats of the Lasva Valley... that Croats fought "Muslims" and "Mujahideen" 10:1... That Ahmici didn't happen, or was the work of unruly elements with no relationship to the Croatian state. Problem is, there were not 50,000 soldiers in the ARBiH with access to weapons in the entire country, the bulk of armed individuals were fighting the Serbs in Brcko, Majevica, Gorazde and Sarajevo -- you know, Bosnia's population centers -- & not the pissant Lasva Valley.
I heard from your Vrhovnik that it was all part of Alija's plan to settle 500,000 Turks to Bosnia-Herzegovina -- a statement he made.
So we must ask ourselves, between the Serbs and the Croats, who is more psychotic?
@@hasibhakanovic6682 so much lies and stupidities that tjose valuable claims even have no sense to reply.
God bless you.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 Bosnians are just Croats and Serbs that became muslim after the turks invaded, you betrayed Croatia in the 90's, you wouldn't exist today if not for HOS and HVO which you stabbed in the back.
@@igorsvacic217 It's "stupid" until the Croatian leadership is named as participants as a JCE in Bosnia-Herzegovina, and your ally & the UNSC gives you 2 weeks to take your forces out of BiH under the threat of sanctions. 😘
It's stupid until Tudjman's cronies find themselves facing 200-300 years imprisonment at the ICTY for Croatia's lurid crimes in BiH. 😘
It's stupid when you argue, as Croats do, the Stari Most was BOTH a legitimate military target yet "the Muslims" destroyed it. 😘
Since I'm so silly and you're so smart, is there anything your lot managed to prove, Igor, before the ICJ and ICTY about Croatia's innocence, the "Muslim" hordes in Central Bosnia, the plot to subjugate Croats to Sharia law, the 500,000 Turks Alija wanted to settle in BiH, or have we forgot about that? 😘
Sorry to have committed the crime of remembering. I also remember your failed "genocide" lawsuit against Serbia. 😘
@@hans7407 Hrvoje, Catholics are serf-settlers that came to the Neretva Valley from the impoverished Venetian Dalmatia in the 18th century to work on the estates of Bosniak landowners. The first Xtolic Chuch in Mostar was built in 1868 -- and in the settlements of the western Mostar there was no recorded Catholic presence until around the same town.
HOS illiterate fanatics/extremists were a bunch of kids under cult leader Dobroslav Paraga who posed with weapons & took photos yet melted wherever they fought, from Posavina to Konjic; the so-called HVO was principally engaged in theft, looting of humanitarian convoys, no fighting, and, as the arm of the Croatian state in BiH, could not defend Croats in Mostar, the Lasva Valley, or anywhere, let alone Bosniaks in major population centers where the so-called HVO had no presence.
Because Croats were incompetent and incapable of protecting anybody, their population went from 16% to about 9% by the end of 1992, and virtually everywhere the HVO attempted to fight the Serbs it crumbled.
The Croatian regime was with its own regular army was not capable of protecting itself with a 10:1 advantage in population against its enemy, let alone fight a proxy war in a foreign country over a border where Croats were about 9% of the population.
This is the reality you kiddos won't hear on HRT.
This should be every day on Serbian and Montenegro TV , just to make them realize what they had done.
Sta ste vi nama uradili? Steta u Dubrovniku je svedena na MINIMALU uporedjenju na ono sto ste vi sve radili Srbima u Zadru.
@@MilicijaKrajine 🚜🚜🚜
@@hans7407 To o Posavini 1992?
too bad, i dont watch tv :)
Then you would have to do that with all of the crimes anyone commited during the war.
Za Dom Spremni ❤ 🇭🇷
The next time you come to Mostar in your black uniforms, you won't be shouting that... you'll be croaking as your head comes off.
Pre ce biti - Za apartman spremni. lmao
@@uros4925 🇷🇸 🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜👋
And Europe was just watching…
I'm not using any of these reasons as an excuse but you gotta remember 1991 was an odd time for geopolitics with the Soviet Union on life support in its last days. Communist regimes all around Eastern and central Europe collapsing,the Gulf War had just ended,etc No one really knew what to do Europe had not seen a conflict on its soil since WWII. It was long overdue but finally the U.S and NATO did step in and stop Serbian aggression
@@shocbomb23 yes they did. At 1999 after Serbs attacked Kosovo. And the war was already ended in Croatia by our forces at 1995.
Yes, just like they watched what happened in Mostar. 😂😘
Nije samo gledala nego i indirektno dala zelene svijetlo,a "časni" UN zabranio Hrvatskoj da kupi oružje!Svijet nas je osudio na smrt ali su previdjeli hrvatskog ratnika!
@@shocbomb23nije ni amerika ni NATO zaustavio barbare sa istoka nego hrvatski ratnici!
Thank You Mr. Davis and ITN for your bravery and honesty. This is journalism at its best. You broke media blockade imposed by the Serbian aggressor and help the truth reach the world.
I watch this footage and see a Ukrainian city or town on the frontline (and even way on the backside) now. This is what makes Ukrainians and Croatians really close - a common misfortune
its deeper than that for Ukrainians and Croats.
@@eddybulich3309 you are right
Serbs were and are "wannabe" ruzzians.
Total years imprisonment meted out by ICTY in criminal cases, by nationality:
Montenegro: 17
Croatia: 300
Operation Storm was the single-most decisive battle of the Croatian War for Independence. Launched by the Republic of Croatia in August 1995, it was the largest European land battle since the Second World War. The success of this remarkable military action by Croatia came after four years of brutal fighting. Outnumbered, outgunned, but not outmaneuvered, this tiny new democracy prevailed in a David versus Goliath battle, a moral as well as military victory by an exceptional people. Storm ended the massive humanitarian disaster and genocide committed by the Serbian Army and Chetnik terrorists. It led to the liberation of one third of Croatian territory seized by the enemy, and it made possible the Dayton Agreement that brought peace to the region. This film documents the events surrounding this extraordinary battle, demonstrating that Croatia, along with its army and generals, deserve commendation from the world community, if not a Nobel Peace Prize. ua-cam.com/video/nKoUo8vzRnc/v-deo.html
And for years.... whole EUROPE just watched and did NOTHING to help Croats in defending their land from Serbian agressor. SHAME ON YOU!!!
Not only that, the UN put a weapon embargo on Croatia.
A terrible stain on Europes history but they run like hell to assist the disgusting regime in Ukraine. makes you sick at the double standards.
Croatia should have never joined the European union and Nato.
Cry some more
Serbs using ruski tactic of war - "we are the victim we are defending " 😂😂😂 and westerners didn't get it until now . Serbs is a balkan ruskis
Who are Montenegrins???
@@io_metreSerbs who weren't influenced by Russia
Croatia The Most Beautiful People 🙏🙏
Ahmici Gospic Stupni Do
Beautiful acts indeed, and beautiful people too... Ivan Milat, Ivan Korade,Tuta...
@@hasibhakanovic6682Cetnik cujes se!
@@hasibhakanovic6682 nothing compared to vukovar, skabranja, osijek, kijevo, krizancevo selo, doljani, grabovica, uzdol, racak etc.
Yes you serbs (no matter if orthodox or muslim) are very good people...you learned ot from your ottoman masters
@@zwadrafanjanju-q7p Ask the ICTY: Croats sentenced to 300 years imprisonment, the leadership of Croatia convicted of war crimes and named participants in JCEs. Obviously the rest of the world has it in reverse, and the ICTY is complicit in an Islamist-Serbian conspiracy against your Dalmatian banana republic. I wonder if the United States is complicit to, as they were the ones who threatened your banana republic with sanctions in 1994 for aggression in BH?
@@hasibhakanovic6682 ask the ICTY: One of the part of the bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington accords in 1994, the bosniaks killed 1,051 croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soliders prisoners of the war, a total of 1,695 and 152,950 croats escaped and where Exiled..
And funny when someone from the poorest country in europe Tell someone "banane republic" if there were no croats you would be poorer then afghanistan...that your serbo-turkish jelsaousy
I went on vacation there in 2000, amazing.
Never forget
Never forget oluja and jasenovac
@@user-kc6qr5eo1k Classic serb, Jasenovac which happend in world war two and lets not mention what the chetniks did too, and Oluja is a military operation and only serbs call it a genocide and its funny because they killed all the croats living there first and ran like dogs after they lost the war 🚜🚜🚜
@@hans7407 So only because it happened in WW2 it dosent matter? Classic croat
@@user-kc6qr5eo1k So you are saying genocidng thousands of muslims, slovenians, albanians and croats is justified because Ustashes genocided serbs in world war two?
By that logic that genocide was justified because the chetniks put croatia under a dictatorship and genocided Croatia first, learn history outside vucic's asshole for once
@@user-kc6qr5eo1kBasicly, if Bosnia attacked you now, and commited a genocide against your civilians, they wouldn't do anything bad since you did the same thing to them? Sick mindset buddy.
Yet Serbs will say it was not their war and that they didnt participate. "It was just the Yugoslavian army" (yet 98% of YNA soldiers that were left were Serbs)
irrelevant stat. War was between state of croatia and state of yugosaliva. Nothing else is relevant. Cry about it, go on. Try to demonize and entire ethnicity and spread hatred like you did in ww2
Serbs fought in Dubrovnik so what ?
What exactly is your point ?
Why are you trying to have the Moral superiority ? We know what croats did in Jasenovac and during oluja.
@@sbj1277 and you know nothing about what was happening before Ustashas and Jasenovac? What happened in Krajina,Vojvodina before Oluja.. oh yes let's play dumb it's not that hard for you.
@@slavonac902 Serbs did war Cremes croats did war Crimes. Stop playing the victim .
@@KolyaUrtz extremely low IQ reply. btw those weren't the modern croats in ww2, those were the independent state of croatia croats, it's not the same thing bro, so stop whining and demonizing an entire ethnicity and spreading hatred
By sea, air and land... ...considering all this, they were pretty ineffective. Thank god.
Croatia has a population about the same size as Serbia, minus Kosova. Adding to that its diaspora population, the Croatian population is considerable. Croats are, on average, wealthier than Serbs, Croatia always had a more developed industry than Serbia. Nonetheless, Serbia and Montenegro managed to conquer about a third of Croatia with less than three thousand losses, some areas without any significant resistance. Dubrovnik was saved because the international community told the Serbs and Montenegrins who had it completely surrounded to stop or risk military intervention.
The Croatian Army was in fact defeated by November 1991, and had signed a permanent ceasefire with a third of territory under its control. It was Serbia that controlled Croatia's territory, not the other way around; Croatian was bisected at Benkovac & major cities like Karlovac were within range of Serbian artillery. Tudjman, as a measure of desperation, not strength, began to appeal to the rest of the world for diplomatic, political and military support. You were not speaking like this in 1992, just to remind you.
Croatia's fate ultimately depended on what would happen in Bosnia-Herzegovina, and whether Serb and Montenegrin forces would redeploy to BiH, which meant Croatia never had to fight the bulk of Serb forces frontally. By April 1992, for every armed Krajina soldier, there were about 5 Serb soldiers in BiH.
The question remains is this one: why did it take Croatia, with advantage in human resources of approximately 10:1, four whole years to liberate a third of its territory? Can you give me an example of another country one-third occupied by one tenth of the population? Who was militarily ineffective?
@@hasibhakanovic6682 too long, didnt read
@@planetcaravan2925 Croatia was occupied for three years by a force that Croatia outnumbered in terms of human resources 10:1... on what planet is Croatia "militarily effective"?
@@hasibhakanovic6682 croats sucesfully defended there country...while bosniaks were not able to defend at least one City against serbs...
@@hasibhakanovic6682 "militarily effective"? - podvili ste rep i zbrisali babi pod kutu
Goloruk i nenaoružani srpski narod se brani ovim granatama na ovaj i ostale gradove.......Za njih, rat je počeo 95" !!
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj
Real face of serbia
Operation Storm was the single-most decisive battle of the Croatian War for Independence. Launched by the Republic of Croatia in August 1995, it was the largest European land battle since the Second World War. The success of this remarkable military action by Croatia came after four years of brutal fighting. Outnumbered, outgunned, but not outmaneuvered, this tiny new democracy prevailed in a David versus Goliath battle, a moral as well as military victory by an exceptional people. Storm ended the massive humanitarian disaster and genocide committed by the Serbian Army and Chetnik terrorists. It led to the liberation of one third of Croatian territory seized by the enemy, and it made possible the Dayton Agreement that brought peace to the region. This film documents the events surrounding this extraordinary battle, demonstrating that Croatia, along with its army and generals, deserve commendation from the world community, if not a Nobel Peace Prize. ua-cam.com/video/nKoUo8vzRnc/v-deo.html
Excelent report. Thank you!
Total years imprisonment meted out by ICTY in criminal cases, by nationality:
Montenegro: 17
Croatia: 300
@@hasibhakanovic6682Complete list: chetniks including montenegrins: 2 311 years bosniak mujahedins 128 years jailed, many never tried for war crimes around central bosnia, others went for ISIL There is mistrust towards the Hague Court within bosnian serbs and bosnian croats, two of the three constituent peoples.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 One of the part of the bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington accords in 1994, the bosniaks killed 1,051 croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soliders prisoners of the war, a total of 1,695 and 152,950 croats escaped and where Exiled..
@@tonyher1773 dont forget that 5 arbih fighters from el-mujahid were responsible for 911 (im not joking search for it)
That how peaceful and liberal so-called bosniaks really are...
Ne zaboravilo se.
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj
As husband to a Bosnian who lived through Mostar and been to Dubrovnik many summers I’ve never seen this footage
I used to drink beers on those walls
I remember watching this on the telly as a kid... i then got married in there 20 years later.
I never shed a tear... but 10:45 really touched me as a woman cried for her husband, wondering if she would ever see him again..... and for many women this was the last time they saw them... let alone heard them....
They wanted to go thru Stradun with tanks
They are Byzantine with Turskish genes this was a example of clash of civilisations
@@tomislavt3344 keep coping wannabe germans there is no "turkish genes"
Dubrovnik was always Serbian @@tomislavt3344
@@daniloungeinc.5102 Serbs were not permitted to spend a night inside Dubrovnik city wally during the existance of Dubrovnik republic, that's how much "Serbian" city was.
Not to mention Serb Nemanjic dynasry waged 5 wars aginst Dubrovnik in the middle ages, than the Schyzmatics again attacked with Russians in 1806. killing more people than in 1991. and destroxying 60% o Dubrovnik republic architecture
@@ivandicivan4189 The first Catholic Church in Mostar was built in 1868. Today, as in 1993, it's a "Croatian city"... there was no presence of those Catholics in the western parts of the town 100 years ago.
How many Croats would know that, out of interest? 0.5 percent? 0.1 percent, if that?
Tell me, what is actually Croatian about the Neretva Valley and Western Herzegovina? Prove 'king' Tomislav was coronated in Duvno with primary sources... If you can do it, I'll donate my monthly income to a charity for Croatian children suffering from cancer.
I remember watching parts of this live on the news. I would watch the news on what was happening every day after school. I was a teenager throughout the war years. No one else at school knew what was happening there.
Total years imprisonment meted out by ICTY in criminal cases, by nationality:
Montenegro: 17
Croatia: 300
Operation Storm was the single-most decisive battle of the Croatian War for Independence. Launched by the Republic of Croatia in August 1995, it was the largest European land battle since the Second World War. The success of this remarkable military action by Croatia came after four years of brutal fighting. Outnumbered, outgunned, but not outmaneuvered, this tiny new democracy prevailed in a David versus Goliath battle, a moral as well as military victory by an exceptional people. Storm ended the massive humanitarian disaster and genocide committed by the Serbian Army and Chetnik terrorists. It led to the liberation of one third of Croatian territory seized by the enemy, and it made possible the Dayton Agreement that brought peace to the region. This film documents the events surrounding this extraordinary battle, demonstrating that Croatia, along with its army and generals, deserve commendation from the world community, if not a Nobel Peace Prize. ua-cam.com/video/nKoUo8vzRnc/v-deo.html
@@BranislavB-hx9zy This looks nice on paper...but Croatian forces never fought the Serbs frontally because there was an armed force of 60,000 soldiers within Serb forces' background and for every 1 soldier in Croatia there were 5 in BiH. The majority of tanks and artillery of the Serbian forces were dispatched to BiH; in Croatia, the Krajina Serb forces were dispositioned against BiH and the 5th Corps, not the Croatian Army, and had been for over 3 years. Galbraith who toured the Croatian "frontline" testified to the complete absence of fortifications, static machine gun nests, trenches along the front... all Galbraith saw were Krajina police checkpoints. Across the Krajina there was no organized resistance... what resistance occurred happened over a period of 3 days, neither the Serbs in Serbia nor the Serbs in Bosnia could help Krajina because they were denied free movement in BiH... the supply line running thru Brcko was limited to literally about a mile... Serbs could not mobilize airpower because of an internationally imposed NFZ... what happened in Aug 1-3 was not the "largest European land battle"... but a tiny skirmish followed by a withdrawal.hope this helps.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 On the part of the Bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington Accords in 1994, the Bosniaks killed 1,051 Croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soldiers prisoners of war, a total of 1,695, and 152,950 Croats escaped and were exiled, and that is only those for whom there is documentation...
@@hasibhakanovic6682 svaki komentar mjenjaš pricu
Barbarima s istoka ništa nije sveto.
Barbari!
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj i povijest se ne daj Boze ponavlja..
Wake up 🙏
@@DavidLederer-h5g Ајајаајја, ма ткооооо, ткооооо...
Thank you ITN !!!
Love you Croatia
...officials/soldiers of which sentenced to 300 years imprisonment by the ICTY.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 One of the part of the bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington accords in 1994, the bosniaks killed 1,051 croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soliders prisoners of the war, a total of 1,695 and 152,950 croats escaped and where Exiled..
Just got back to our hotel after visiting Dubrovnik today. Strange seeing this.
And to notice not much time passed since them
GOD, this footage makes the BLOOD BOIL IN MY VEINS! This City is a true GEM - the "Pearl Of The Adriatic" - and the B*** BOMB IT LIKE IT WAS A FIELD OF POTATOES.
Slur we use as Croatians is "forgive but, never forget" am proud of all our veterans who fought bravely !
Fought in Mostar, Gornji Vakuf, Bugojno and Prozor to liberate Croatia and save Dubrovnik. 😁
@@hasibhakanovic6682 correct, to defend themself from islamic fanatics and jihadists who were Importen from Afghanistan and the middle east
Thank you for sharing this powerful video. Paul Davies captured the reality of life in Dubrovnik during those dark days in 1991. There is a book about the siege, The Enigma of Victory, which includes his preface and testimony, along with stories from Croatian defenders, civilians, and historians. I wanted to share this in case anyone is interested in learning more about that period... The book is available on Amazon
"Croatian defenders" - value judgement that reveals your bias. Bias will never get to truth. There was no "Homeland War", only a war between Greater Croatia and Greater Serbia. Croatian soldiers were militants, then members of the Croatian Army, which was the armed force of the Republic of Croatia, condemned by the UNSC for aggression against a Member State in February 1994, in a resolution threatening sanctions and cosponsored by the United States, your major "ally". I hope similar books will be written about "Croatian defenders", or "Croatian butchers", in Mostar, Vitez and Gornji Vakuf -- after of course their lengthy prison sentences are over.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 croatian defenders and heroes defended themselfs from islamic terror and al-qaida in vitez, busovaca and all of central bosnia and hercegovina...did you know that most of the Terrorist in 9/11 were mujahedeen from bosnia...
Kako neznas sto je bilo sjeti se grada Dubrovnika. Bravo Thompson, i svima kojima ne pase njegova glazba neka gledaju ovakva izvjesca iz ratnih dana. Sve ce im morati biti jasno.
sick
It would be impossible to take the city as attackers would be too scared to take risks in urban warfare.
The city wasn t armed, maybe gun or two, but probably they didn t know that...
@@hasibhakanovic6682 no
What cowards bombing a beautiful city
BOG I HRVATI ✝️ 🙏🇭🇷
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj
300 godina robije na ICTY-ju, a cijeli vojno-politički vrh Hrvatske osuđen kao sudionici u UZP-u.Jedini vrh strane države osuđen za UZP u BiH.Evo granatirali su ti grad a ti proglašavaš Bog je s Hrvatima... Bog nije bio s Hrvatima, čak ni kad su u samoj Hrvatskoj brojčano nadmašili Srbe 10:1.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 cinjenice je da su srbi (pravoslavci i muslimani) sistematicno pobili i tjerali civile...hrvati nisu zato su bili oprezniji to cak ICTY kaze..
Zatim:
Bog i Hrvati
Thia is how Serbians were manifesting their love for the city.
Like the Croatian Army in Mostar, which didn't exist, right?
@@hasibhakanovic6682 croats in Mostar defend themself from jihadists and al-qaida who even attacked New York in 9/11
This should be aired once a year to remind people what happens when you let people put lies as a truth.
Same happening in Ukraine now, same scenario in Croatia 30 years ago, Russians and Serbs have similar signature in their conviction of how the world should run.
Total years imprisonment meted out by ICTY in criminal cases, by country:
Montenegro: 17
Croatia: 300
That's an interesting point of view... Croatia experienced war for 3 months, whereas Ukraine has experienced war for 3 years... The ICTY has convicted Croatia's popularly elected government of war crimes, a JCE, and every crime except genocide, in a country outside its international borders. International judgements tell us that the HVO was an arm of the regime in Zagreb... Croatian media still pretends the Croatian government did not control the HVO, its merciless criminals, but indeed, in every case adjudicated before the ICTY the conflict was found to be international in nature. 😘
@@hasibhakanovic6682 croatia has won the war in croatia in 3 months...and croats also won the war in bosnia against serbs in 4 years, and saved bosniak people who were to incompetent to defend themselfs against serbs...
@@user-tk3cb6im5o That's a nice story, but reality is harsh to Croatia and Croatian revisionism. We do not have to speculate on what would have happened if the war stayed the course in 1991 and Croats continued to "fight" the Serbs alone, because we, and the whole world, saw in only three months, from August until November, territorial losses were only in one direction, Croatia was bisected, critical civilian infrastructure was destroyed, and Croatia was militarily exhausted. It was the Croatian leadership that appealed to the world for help, including Anton Tus, who in his own words, asked the world to "Save us." Nobody in Croatia believed they were winning the war. Croats had already begun to leave BiH en masse by the hundreds of thousands, most had left the Neretva Basin and Central Bosnia for Westenr Herzegovina and Dalmatia. If Croatia defended itself, its legislature would not have signed a permanent ceasefire recognizing 1/3 of territory under the control of Greater Serbia, defended by a Serb population one tenth the size of the total population of Croatia, and nobody in Croatia would have agreed to the deployment of UNPROFOR, as it would have been fully capable of disarming these areas. The Sarajevo Agreement as well as the November ceasefire specifies the frontlines were to be permanent boundaries! UNPROFOR was deployed because Croatia could not defend itself, even against predominantly local Serb forces, and at the request of Croatia, not Serbia. When the war moved to BiH, as the result of Bosniak, not Croat, activities, for every 1 soldier in Croatia, there were 5 in Bosnia-Herzegovina. The Krajina was left defended by a population outnumbered 10:1, and even so, Croatia launched no offensive despite overwhelming military and economic superiority; the reason is it couldn't. The absolute majority of tanks and artillery pieces in the Serb arsenal were sent to Bosnia-Herzegovina, in areas defended and inhabited by Bosniaks, not Croatia, which is not what would happen if Croatia was the main military threat to Serbia. In Podrinje '92-95, around 5,000 Serb soldiers were liquidated by the Army of Bosnia-Herzegovina. That figure corresponds to less than the total deaths of the Serbian side in the whole of Croatia from '91-95. In just a tiny part of Bosnia-Herzegovina, more Serbs perished than in all of Croatia. When Croatia finally did something serious in August 1995, the ARBiH had attritioned the Serbs by 30,000 personnel, destroyed hundreds of tanks and artillery pieces, blocked the only Serb supply line linking the Krajina to Serbia, and denied free movement to the Serbs who had 120,000 men at their disposal. It was the Bosnian leadership, not Croatian leadership, that made Serbia a pariah state internationally, and caused Serbia (and nearly Croatia) to be sanctioned by the world. It was because of the Bosnian government, not the Croatian regime, a no fly zone was implemented over the airspace of Bosnia-Herzegovina, and the Yugoslavian Air Force could not interdict Croatia's military movements. And by August 1995, Slobodan Milosevic was incapable of protecting the Krajina, even if he wanted to (which he did not).
@@hasibhakanovic6682 reality is following:
Croats defended themself from serbs....croats at the beginning didnt have and army nor weapons...the serbs who had the 4th strongest army and the other yugoslavian people (except slovenians) struggled with the conquest of vukovar against some 3.000 light armed croatian rebells, and except vukovar serbs didnt conquered any other croatian town nor osijek, slavonski brod, dubrovnik, karlovac, daruvar etc.
At the end of 1991 croats quicky started with successfull ofensives like otkos 10...but then the UN intervented and both croats and milosevic agreed about an peaceful Integration to serbia...
Now lets talk about bosnia:
Army of Republik of srpska entered bosnia and they quickly conquest 70% of bosnia without any struggle (reminder: in croatia they only got vukovar at this time)
They coudnt do anything against serbs...and muslims left bosnia to Western europe or croatia...
And muslim army get weapons and help from croatia, and because of croatia the serbian offensive stopped...
After that muslims showed there real face...in 1993 when croats were busy with maslenica with UN forces and serbian army (yes serbian criminal arkan was there at this time)...muslims cowardly attacked croatian civilians in central bosnia and ethnic cleansed 180.000 croats with help from al-qaida and other jihadists groups from there...
Meanwhile muslims capitulated to serbs and signed the krajisnik-izetbegovic agreement for the liberation of republika srpska...
In Winter 1993 when surrounded croats from kiseljak, vitez and busovaca finally started Winning the americans forced both sides to sign the Washington agreement...
In 1994-1995 most of the battles in bosnia were won by croats, even in 1995 in kljuc when the ARBiH had to fight alone, they were fastly pushed back to defensive by the serbian army and croatian army had to intervinate...
Even highest bosnian generals comfirm openly...you are just laughable
Croatia was bigger victim than Ukraine cause:
Croatia wasn't independent and international recognized.
Croatia didn't had guaranteed place in UN.
Croatia have sea horse/dragon shape.
Croatia have 10× smaller land mass and number of inhabitans.
There was not world wide spreaded internet, android mobile phones and tablets
Croatia wasn't get donations from West, instead we bought it from Albania or former JNA's warehouses.
Croatia get embargo on weapons.
@@danielm6319 wtf? The Ukraine is being attacked by one of the largest Army. Thats a difference.
War in Ukraine is far more brutal.For 4 years around 25 000 dead in Croatia in both sides and with civilians counted in that number.In Ukraine there is probably 500 000 dead in 2 years.In Croatia there was no heavy artilery (200mm and larger)no ballistic missile with a range greater than 1000 kilometres and ton of explosive in head,no drones,no termal sniper scopes,.......
@@MnOl1979 but it is the same since at that time, Yugoslavia had the third strongest army in the world, similar to how Russia is the second strongest today (USA is first). All the weapons of Yugoslavia were in Serbian possession since the main base was located in Belgrade, so the Croats had to defend themselves with hunting rifles for a while.
Croatia and their militias especially smuggled lots of weapons with the help of the Germans. That’s why they held up against the JNA.
Dane here. We saw the horrors of what was happening.
You will probably not undetstand, but it was almost impossible to do anything about it from our side.
We could only daily watch in horror.
Serb Božidar Vučurević who was one of the leaders of siege said when they destroy Dubrovnik they will build more beautiful and even older Dubrovnik.
Total years imprisonment meted out by ICTY in criminal cases, by nationality:
Montenegro: 17
Croatia: 300
@@hasibhakanovic6682 On the part of the Bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington Accords in 1994, the Bosniaks killed 1,051 Croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soldiers prisoners of war, a total of 1,695, and 152,950 Croats escaped and were exiled, and that is only those for whom there is documentation...
@@hasibhakanovic6682 war crimes in bosnia:
Serbs 92%
Croats 5%
Bosniaks 3%
Barbari sa Istoka...
A kada ste nas vi klali i u jame bacali vi ste to radili na civilizovan nacin?
@@Михаил-ч3н5ц ne zaboravi,turčine pravoslavni tko je nas prvi klao,daleko prije nego su ustaše nastale!
@@Михаил-ч3н5цkoje si godiste? Sjecas se klanja? Ili da pricamo o tome kako ste nas napadali sa jataganima I ko pravi turci nabijali na kolac... ili je to pre stara prica?
@@Михаил-ч3н5цDa 🤘☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
@@goransostaric6556 srbi srusili carigrad skupa s turcima najveci pravoslavni grad u istoriji
Lots of historical disputes here. Let's not forget that before Croatia and Serbia the Republic of Ragusa, was a powerful naval republic and merchant city state.
Samo gamad moze ovakvo nesto izvest i branit.
A ko moze da izvede jasenovac??? 3000 puta gore
@@user-kc6qr5eo1k crybaby
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Stranka Mozemo + vecina medija
a APIS isto njihov
p.s. apel svim Hrvatima da raskrinkaju stranku Mozemo jer u Zagrebu ljudi spavaju, a uskoro preko medijskih manipulacija dolaze na vlast u cijeloj Hrvatskoj
@@user-kc6qr5eo1k say judea free
Extraordinary to think the Serb forces had free reign to use battle ships without intervention coming up from the Med.
How ironic that the Croats, who justifiably complained about the demolition of Dubrovnik and its Old Town, just one year after this demolished Mostar and its Old Bridge in the same way .
The Catholics claim "the Muslims" used the Stari Most to transport soldiers and weapons so it was a legitimate military target and "the Muslims" also destroyed it. Masters of self-contradiction but also extreme arrogance as they expect the rest of the world to hear this nonsense.
It should be noted similar architecture was destroyed far outside areas of conflict, meaning that it is irrelevant whether there was a military use for the bridge at the time it was destroyed. Stolac is an example of widespread destruction in the absence of military objectives. It was the manifestation of a plan at the highest levels of the Croatian government to change the Islamic and Bosniak image of areas of BiH that Croats had little/no historical presence in but needed to create continuous territory between their enclaves and Western Herzegovina... Not simply architecture and cultural/religious sites, but businesses, apartment blocks, water towers, sanitation plants and the requirements for a civilized existence everywhere the Split Military District forces (HVO) stepped foot. Buildings can be rebuilt but human life can't be brought back.
They have been conditioned for the last 20-30 years to accept and tell lies... not even the ICTY has an effect on Croats when the findings of the ICTY are diluted and only then relayed to the Croatian population by the media and talking heads. Watch Croatian television and there is still war propaganda or themes about the dangers to the existence of "Croats in BiH", it only takes about 10 minutes of listening to a HRT news program to encounter.
Don't call them Croats. Call them Catholics, Dalmatian/Istrian/Slavonian Catholics, Catholics of the former Venetian Dalmatia, or Yugoslav Catholics. "Croat" is a regional identity, we know this because "Horvat" is a popular surname among Hungarian Jews, who can be genetically sequenced as Ashkenazi Jews. Clearly if one can be genetically Jewish and have a surname meaning "Croat", "Croat" does not simply denote a nation.
If they try to write our history, we will accept the invitation to write theirs as well.
Its because bosniak jihadists and mujahedeen tried to exterminate all non-muslims from there
@@zrushu-qx7jq correct 👍
@@hasibhakanovic6682 nasa oluja nikada ne prestaje
Vječna hvala i slava hrvatskim redarstvenicima i vojnicima
Majku im cetnicku
these are yugoslavian forces trying to preserve unity in balkans. Nothing to do with chetniks
@@KolyaUrtz
Hahahahaha, you're funny brate, "yugoslavian forces" just from Serbia and Montenegro. 🤣
@@KolyaUrtz
When Slovenia declared independence, Jović said he didn’t give a damn if the Slovenes left because there were no Serbs there. You only wanted to carve up Bosnia-Herzegovina and Croatia to create your Greater Serbia while simultaneously subjugating Montenegro.
No one believes the story of Yugoslav unity when you were sabotaging the federation until the very end, blocking Mesić from taking the Presidency.
@@gottmituns813 Here's what really happened: Franjo wanted to divide BiH, was as eager as anybody to do so and believed they had a common plan, and after Croats rejected the internal borders of Yugoslavia as the legal basis for a sovereign state, only then did Serbs stab Croats in the back... Now a victim mentality of the Croats who want to tell us they were sentenced to 300 years imprisonment at the ICTY because of Serbs. 😘
Even as you were occupied, you did not give up on your fetishisms for BiH territories... we know the outcome: Croats are 8% of BiH down from 16% in 1991. More Croat military deaths in BiH in battles with the ARBiH than in Croatia itself. 😘
@@hasibhakanovic6682
What you’re saying is completely false. Croatia had the right to independence according to the Yugoslav Constitution. If Serbia intervened, it was to carve up Croatian territory and forcibly unite it with Belgrade. That’s why the Serbs in Croatia became emboldened and expelled Croats from their homes-they felt strong because, by then, Serbia already had full control of the JNA.
Yugoslavia effectively no longer existed in 1991; the Serbs had taken over all federal institutions by force, even preventing a Croat like Mesic from becoming president, among many other things.
That’s why they did nothing to stop Slovenia and Macedonia from leaving Yugoslavia, because there were no Serbs there. Thirty years later, some still think the Serbs were defending Yugoslav unity. 🤣
I was in Dubrovnik in 1990 after the communist regime was gone, it broke my heart to see this ancient city under attack from an autoritharian regime, short after the poeple thought they're free now....
It was under attack for a short time and damage was minimal, easily repaired. It became a functioning tourist destination in 1993, when Mostar was being shelled by Croatian troops into an apocalyptic wasteland.
The last major attacks by Serbian Nazis - Chetniks on the area of Dubrovnik was in August 1995, but even then they did not succeed.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 its because radical islamists attacked croats there...1 year ago HVO defended Mostar against serbs
Digusting
Ne daj Grade da te tuđin shrva,
Stari plode hrvatskoga drva,
Pjevaj rodu da na tvojoj stijeni,
Sloboda se iznad svega cijeni!
This civil war serves as a lesson for many multicultural, multiethnic and multireligious nations.
Yugoslavia had the fifth largest armed forces and one of the most prosperous societies in the Communist Bloc, but, that did not help to overcome ethnic and religious differences.
Tito managed things well, but, after his death, the nation couldn't keep Serbian aggression down.
Sadly, many lives were lost.
Yugoslavia didn't fall apart due to being multicultural or multi ethnic. They fell apart due to deep seated hatred between these groups and the socialist government's failure to resolve it. Hiding your issues and pretending they don't exist will lead to these problems. The second Tito died, the entire charade fell apart. Ignoring calls for peace and understanding between separate groups leads to conflict. Separate nations exist under the EU and it still functions, same in the US. It still works. Because there is dialog between groups. We need peace, not ignorance and blind racism between groups.
@@noco7243now don't be silly
@@noco7243 the rise of the far right in the EU and the UK, including what Trump promises to bring to the USA is both dangerous and destabilising
Yugoslavia had a domino effect which we can see for ourselves now in the West
Multiculturalism has only worked well in Newzealand or to done Extent in Canada
Elsewhere woke as a concept has failed
As Margaret Thatcher said: The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. After Tito's death the credit lines were cut and all of the communist military, intelligence and political leaders knew economic collapse is coming and different national factions within the communist party started to make plans who gets the leftovers. They partnered up with the nationalist who were up until that moment under constant reppresion by the communist regime which included breaking basic human right, assasinations, imprisonment etc.
Federal army was controlled by the serbian faction with over 80% of officers being serbian nationality. In mid 80's the federal army reformed it's military districts. Before the reform, each of the 7 republics had its own district (+ the navy) and its own Territorial Defense. After the reform there were only 3 districts, and one of them was basiclly an outline of Great Serbia borders. The Territorial Defense was stripped of its weapons leaving the smaller republics defensless before the war even started. Weapons embargo was also put in place by the international community. A decision which favoured only the federal army which already had more then enoguh weapons. Military solution to the Yugoslav crisis was set in motion by the ones who controlled the army. Serbs. It was planned out and preparations were made a decade before the war began.
So, no Yugoslavia was not prosperus, it wasn't even economicly sustainable without the international credit lines which were open only to Tito who (as a stone cold killer and a leader of the most organized anti-nazi gerilla movement) enjoyed great respect in the international community. The war wasn't fought over ethnic and religious differences it was fought over who gets what after Yugoslav economy collapses and ethnic and religious differences were only fuel to the fire. And last thing, from strategic point of view... it wasn't a civil war, it was textbook occupation of territory by a minority (rebel serbs) backed up by an invading force (federal army). Almost identical scenario as the start of invasion on Ukraine.
@@YorickReturns it could be a contributing factor due to diminishing marginal returns
But didn’t Yugoslavia had decent living standards.
And to this day they cry about NATO intervening and stopping this nightmare. It may have caused civillian deaths, but the consequences of not intervening would have been catastrophic. If anything, we entered too late. It's so nice to see how well croatia is doing today, lovely country and nice people.
NATO did not intervene to save Croatia, but Albanians in Kosova. It has nothing to do with what happened in Dubrovnik, which was a clash between two armies after Croatia rejected the internal boundaries of Yugoslavia, meaning Croatia's borders or Croatian territory did not legally exist. Do not turn Croats into Kosovo Albanians.
The shelling of an area that is defended is not a war crime. Either Dubrovnik was a civilian area and Croats were cowardly to not be defenders, or the area around Dubrovnik was indeed defended, which Croats indeed acknowledge as they are praising their veterans even on this channel. It can't be both! But Croats have normalized a contradiction: self-pity in which they are victims against insurmountable odds, and arrogance according to which they are a "regional power" in Europe. Croatia is the only country in the world where David is Goliath, and Goliath is David.
Nobody had the idea Croatia was a victim, not in 1991, or in 1993, or in 1994, or even in 1995.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 croatia was recognized in 1992 by the UN and gets enough Support from the west (particullary germany)...because croatia was the victim of greater serbian aggression, nor croats ethnic cleansed serbs nor croats killed servian civilians...
Serbs didnt accept boundared and authorities of any yugoslavian country + vojvodina, kosovo
There's nothing worse than a war between brothers sharing the same language and culture, as a spanish I know it pretty well... the scars of the civil war are still very fresh.
2 totally different nations, serbs are not our brothers, never were.
Almost the same language, but opositly different culture...
@@Marijan-fg4mdWe share the same language, blood, culture, but not the same mindset. We wanted brotherhood, they wanted Greater Serbia.
@@erikb2358
Not culture, religion.
@@Marijan-fg4mdWe always were brothers and forever will be!
Awesome. This'll make a good segment for a new Call of Duty game.
Ni danas ne staju
Memorandum SANU 2
Sve od HRT-a pa do Sportskih Novosti i Faktografa..
Stranka Možemo je njihova, kao i APIS (Dimitrijevic) kuća u kojoj se broje naši glasački listići.
Pametnom dosta
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The video accurately claims that the Serbs (more precisely, the Serbian version of the Nazis - Chetniks) living in Montenegro were destroying the Croatian city of Dubrovnik. In this war crime, Serb Nazis - Chetniks were armed and supported by the heavily armed socialist-communist Yugoslav army. The saddest thing is that even after the whole civilized world watched in 1991 how the socialist-communist Yugoslav army united with the Serbian national-socialist Chetniks (Serbian version of Nazis) were savagely destroying the Croatian city of Dubrovnik, which is a jewel of world cultural heritage, thus embarrassing the Serbs and Serbia in front of the eyes of the whole world, even today, after the evil they did, one can hear and read how some of the Serbs declare without any shame that they will try to attack Dubrovnik again when they get the chance. The last major attacks by Serbian Nazis - Chetniks on the area of Dubrovnik was in August 1995, but even then they were stopped, defeated and suppressed by the Croatian army.
Yugoslavia was a powder keg ready to explode, we didn't know then.
Yugoslavia didn't exist at that time...
Sa Lovcena vila klice, oprosti nam Dubrovnice! To su bili sve cetnici, Momirovi placenici!
The Serbian animals, I remember it when I was a kid in Hungary
Total years imprisonment meted out by ICTY in criminal cases, by country:
Montenegro: 17
Croatia: 300
In criminal cases against citizens against the Croatian state acting within the official organs of the Croatian state, the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia has meted out sentences in total of about 300 years, and named Croatia's elected leaders as members of a JCE (joint criminal enterprise) in a foreign country, Bosnia-Herzegovina. The crimes in question include everything short of genocide. The events in Mostar during 1993 meet the objective definition of Genocide under the Genocide Convention.
Dubrovnik was a tourist destination in 1993; Mostar still has the scars of destruction by Croatian militants. Who really suffered & who were the real victims?
@@hasibhakanovic6682 On the part of the Bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington Accords in 1994, the Bosniaks killed 1,051 Croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soldiers prisoners of war, a total of 1,695, and 152,950 Croats escaped and were exiled, and that is only those for whom there is documentation...
Croats did nothing wrong, they defended themselfs
@@hasibhakanovic6682bla bla bla liaaaar
@@user-tk3cb6im5o ICTY for you means Tudjman regime news portals and Slobodan Praljak's self-published manuscripts.
Hrvoje, are we up to our 10th sock puppet account?
@@mirkokapor1249 Yes, ICTY convictions which you can look up are lies.
serbs would do the same today if only they could..but they cannot 'cause Croatia is not anymore defended by a groups of lightly armed civilians and police,now Croatia have a respected army which is a NATO member also.
Croatia has basically no army at all. The younger generation of Croats has no military training. If war began, which it will not as Serbia does not pose any threat to Croatia, Croats would simply leave their country for Germany en masse. It's not a respected member of NATO because its electorate puts into power a president who regularly attacks NATO in front of the press.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 actually mooslims from bosnia are all in germany, austria, sweden etc. live as asylum seekers...and at least croats dosnt lick serbian btts like mooslims do who almost extermianted you
ALARM: This comment section is full of Nationalists from both sides, proceed with caution and ignore any comments written on any of the Slavic languages. Trust me I am a Croat and I have experience with both side’s nationalists, they are mostly early teens who try to assert dominance
teens who have no clue about the war
I am a defender of Croatia in 1991 to 1995, do tell your bs? You are not Croatian.
Sounds like all the hate is in English, actually.
@@Marijan-fg4mdOf course I support my homeland, but I do not support the absolute hate between us and Serbs and spreading hate about each other’s country
@@B1_Bis there is no apsolute hate ,there are good and bad people in every nation , but when the bad raise their head from there, after all they did and never apologized nor many punished for war crimes, i will not just do nothing. We know and the world knows who was the agresor and probably would do the same if had the chance.
I was born the day the siege ended. As a Serb I am so disapointed by Balkans recent history, and the hatred many are trying to refuel even today.
The essence of the war had nothing to do with Croatia, except Croatia wanted to divide, with Serbia, the state of Bosnia-Herzegovina. Everything else is pure self-victimization from the Croats. The Serb attack on Croatia was after Croatia had embraced the idea internal boundaries could be changed and did not matter, believing this would not be to Croatia's detriment -- and the Serbs and Montenegrins simply took that to the logical conclusion, which is Croatia's borders no longer needed to be the as its internal boundaries in Yugoslavia. For this reason, there was no "aggression", only armies fighting for territory. It was when Croatia was losing territory that it cried foul. More civilians were killed by the Croatian Army in Gornji Vakuf and Mostar than by the Serbs and Montenegrins in Dalmatia. If Croats were existentially endangered and threatened by Serbia, why did they send half their arsenal to fight Bosniaks in 1993? There is no explanation, of course. Just the anticipation Croats' victim narrative will be accepted, and Croats think like this because they do not hear opposing views. Croatia's genocide lawsuit against Serbia ended with a loss for Croatia, at a profound financial cost to Croatia. I wonder how many people in Croatia this caused to re-think their preconceived notions about the war... Probably zero.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 Brother, as long as you try to take sides in a war like this, you are a part of the problem, so please do better.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 islamists in bosnia tried to ethnic cleanse all non-muslims from bosnia and you failed...so dont be mad
@@CharlieTheAstronaut That's moral relativism. The reality is: Croatia denies its army was ever in BiH. One "side" therefore denies the most basic of demonstrable fact, the reason being it is engaged in systematic war crimes and wishes to avoid responsibility as a state. It's not about whose side, it's about evidence and where it leads. And people are perfectly capable of evaluating evidence. Most of what I have written has been known since 1993 by anybody who chooses to listen.
@@CharlieTheAstronaut I wonder from your comments how much time you have spent thinking through what you are saying and what it would imply. Do you deny before a bullet was fired, Serbia and Croatia had agreed to divide BiH at Karadjordjevo '91? Because this is denied, but also demonstrable fact. When the United Nations Security Council decreed Croatia as a state was a participant in aggression against a Member State, Bosnia-Herzegovina, was it "taking sides"? I'm guessing it's "taking sides" if a Bosnian states the same thing, correct? I quote American diplomats, international diplomats, ICTY judgements, ICJ judgements, historians such as Noel Malcolm and Josip Glaurdic -- that is my source of information. And just because facts hurt, doesn't mean they're not true.
Im from Serbia, and while I dont live there any more, I did spend 15 years of my life there. And from the banter here and there, I have never heard anyone younger ever say anything against Croatia. Also many here are saying that the Serbian mentality is that Dubrovnik is Serbian. This is the first time that I have head that.
Let past stay in the past. Both sides have more than enough skeletons in the closet. We are all the same people, and this civil war was brought on by selfish politicians and a dumb population, on all sides.
None of us are better off because we split up, regardless of who is in which camp. We all have zero military and financial might. And as such are invisible on the world stage.
And the only thing that can happen by holding grudges is more war in the future.
Total years imprisonment meted out by ICTY in criminal cases, by nationality:
Montenegro: 17
Croatia: 300
If your statemen is true, the war would be fought on the territory of Serbia also. The war started because your side had an army and we did not, and because your political leadership believed that they could take all Bosnia and part of Croatia and annex it to Serbia. Your leaders were so crazy from that burden that they even supported a military coup in Russia against Yeltsin. We had the misfortune to find ourselves on the path of your tanks towards the planned new borders of Serbia. There was no JNA barracks or its combat units in Dubrovnik. They all comes from your sides.
Branitelj Dubrovnika
@@nednorth8883 Sure, and you can hold a grudge and not move on. All the politicians were pulling towards their own side, and not focusing on what was the best for the nation.
The only thing not moving on gets us is another war later on where our kids will die because we could not let go.
Again ,we are the same people. Life goes on. France and the UK were at war for centuries, and now they are good neighbors who trade and work together. Its because they dont have the problem that our people do. Passing on generational traumas.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 On the part of the Bosniaks from January 1993 to the Washington Accords in 1994, the Bosniaks killed 1,051 Croat civilians (of which 121 children) and 644 HVO soldiers prisoners of war, a total of 1,695, and 152,950 Croats escaped and were exiled, and that is only those for whom there is documentation...
@@user-tk3cb6im5o Post any independent source confirming this. 🤣
I really like the 50 Hz footage!
This happens in Ukraine right now, except the Russians don’t stop until the city is rubble
true
Aint nothing same what happened here in this video or whole war in Croatia in 90s and todays Ukraine.
@@lukazulj9554 why?
@@maksym_x because Croatia had nothing and won against 4th rated military power in Europe and Ukraine is getting everything and still losing against so called weak and old military that is Russia. Also Ukraine has independence and Croatia didnt.
@@lukazulj9554 There are some differences between these two wars, but the same thing is happening in Ukraine which happened to us in Croatia. We were both attacked by our imperialistic neighbours who outnumber and outgun us. Remember, we won after 4-5 years, after we already lost a good chuck of our territory. The main difference is the sheer size of Ukraine/Russia war and the majority of it being in the trenches.
The woman risking her life for her dog , amazing as a dog owner myself I understand why she did it .
Aaaaa komšije, nije vam ovo trebalo nikako
Nije ni vama
Ne treba njima ni nacizam pa ga i dalje gaje.
@@ekolog8201 aaaaaaa nije baš kršćanski od vas..
Mi smo nacisti a koji je vaš izgovor onda? Šta je vama bilo?
@@nah7856 bome nije nam trebalo da nas susjedi bombardiraju, istina
@@RicoBanani Niste svi nacisti naravno, ali Vaša država se do danas nije obračunala sa neoustaštvom. Moje skromno mišljenje je da je za Vašu državu i društvo bolje da se distancira od tekovina NDH, prvenstveno ideologije i identifikacije sa tim periodom. Pogledaj samo one idiote koji idu u Blajburg. Kada bi u Nemačkoj velika grupa u full SA uniformama donosili cveće na Hajdrihov grob to bi bio skandal svetskih razmera. Ali ne smeju jer je to država zabranila i obračunala se sa ideologijom. Što se tiče ovih bombi sramota ali računaj da je Beograd bio komunistički sve do 5. oktobra 2000. godine. U to nema sumnje. Nema izgovora za ovo ali 46 godina su JNA vodile ideološki zatucane komunjare, koji su sanjali da održe SFRJ.
This make me very sad.
Siege of Kings Landing
meanwhile in Dubrovnik, already for centuries
i don't know if it is a video montage that makes it that way but this is the stupidest bombardment that i have seen, wtf are they even shooting at,
having large arsenal of larger bombs and they use artillery shells and small caliber ballistics missiles and mortar to hit buildings......... doesn't make any sense
They didn't have any tactics. They were drunken hordes on a mission to kill and destroy.
@@MrSatelit28 Like the Croatian Army in Mostar, which didn't exist?
@@hasibhakanovic6682 That's different. The Croats in Mostar were betrayed by their Muslim comrades, whom they armed and defended against the Serbs. After that, the Muslims stabbed them in the back. So, there were elements of revenge.
@@MrSatelit28 That's great. Is that why the Croatian Army denies ever stepping foot in Mostar and Gornji Vakuf? Is the "betrayal" the reason Mostar was shelled into apocalypse, Prozor was looted for over a week (then burnt to the ground) and Stolac, outside of any war zone, massively destroyed?
I am interested to know your source of information. Would I be correct in guessing it is state-controlled mass media in Croatia or writings of participants in the war?
In June 1992, Mostar was where Zagreb militias under the effective control of Zagreb, who were overwhelmingly non-native to Mostar or the Neretva Basin, pulled off a coup against the elected local government, replacing the Crisis Staff and Mayor Milivoj Gagro, with Jadranko Topic, guaranteeing war would happen in the future.
In October 1992, Prozor came under attack by regular units of the Croatian Army dressed in 1940s uniforms, and the entire town was looted.
Of course, it's "different". Because it's you. And the insurmountable obstacle to Croatia on a mission to convince the world of its moral righteousness -- and failing to do so for over 30 years. And of course, nobody serious outside Croatia believes Croats, sentenced to 300 years imprisonment by an international court, are not guilty of aggression and systematic war crimes.
@@MrSatelit28 You're right about the difference: How many civilians died in Dubrovnik versus Mostar?
Can you tell me any major battles that occurred between "Croats in Mostar" and "Serbs"? Can you list names of killed/captured officers, where important battles took place, as well as casualty counts on your side and the enemy side? Can you tell me, roughly, what percentage of Serb deaths in the Bosnian War happened due to Croatian Army in/around Mostar?
The answers to these questions tell a familiar story: There were no infantry battles or documented conflict between "Croats in Mostar" and Serbs. Serbs, in a very orderly fashion, withdrew along the entire Konavle Ravno Dubrovnik Mostar Stolac line in a day, taking their arsenals to Nevesinje, and the Croatian Army (not "Croats in Mostar") "conquered" undefended and unoccupied territory. There was not a single bullet fired anywhere in or around Mostar, let alone Stolac, because there was nobody to fight.
When fighting began in Bosnia, and in fact before that, when fighting began in Croatia, about fifty percent of Croats either fled to Western Herzegovina or to Croatia, and it was Bosniaks who predominantly bore the burden of defense of all major cities of BiH.
It was the realization of the Graz Agreement, which was a formalization of Karadjordjevo '91, where Tudjman and Milosevic agreed to the division of BiH at the expense of Bosniaks.
Croats and Bosniaks were never comrades -- Bosniaks overwhelmingly fought in the TO that Croats sought to disarm. Croats never anticipated Bosniaks would form an organized resistance, and in transcripts of Croatian discussions, you can hear Tudjman believing he could simply position his forces and take administrative control of wherever he wanted. This was guaranteed to cause war.
Res žalostno, da je moralo priti do take agresije.
Montenegrians strike Dubrovnik not serbs...hahaha lol this is silly.