When seconds count, the Uvalde Police Department waited an hour and 17 minutes just outside the classroom where the murderer was slaughtering children in. Meanwhile, heavily armed police officers outside the school were physically subduing parents for trying to save their children who they could hear screaming, the job these officers cowardly refused to do.
Not sure how they can sleep at night. I hope those losers are haunted by the screams of those children every night. They need to resign and apologize to the families.
Not only did they refuse to save the childeren ,they helped the killer by not allowing anyone to intervene, who's minions are these officers,and who's agenda are they following.All the times I have turned around to make sure an officer is safe while having a conflict,why?
No, it wasn't. More crying by the ignorant "I took an oath" crowd who are completely ignorant about the document they took an oath to. Which is why they don't touch on the fact that the federal government doesn't have the authority to pass or execute national sweeping laws. These two like the masses are ignorant cowards who support the very things they claim to be against.
Love your channel but I’ll disagree with your comment. I think there need to be a ban of weapons for kids until 21 if they can’t drink they sure as hell shouldn’t be allowed to buy weapons. I agree teachers should carry if they want but I disagree about more police in our schools. I’ll add I do agree with teaching kids gun safety.
I'm surprised that nobody ever references the Czech Republic as an example of how a country can have looser gun laws but lower crime rates. Even with licensing and registration laws, it is much easier to obtain a firearm there than in most first world countries (excluding the U.S.) and their gun laws have continually loosened over the past three decades. They allow civilian ownership of AR-15s and other semi-auto rifles (including "SBRs"), and they allow everyday citizens to conceal carry firearms in similar fashion to many "shall issue" states in the United States, but on a nationwide basis rather than on a state to state basis. Recently, they even wrote an almost Second-like Amendment to their constitution.
Well, here I am :D :D Proudly owner of AK, UZI (open bolt!), M590, SW 5903, 92FS, SW 10, and some old school CZs... I do CCW for about 10 years now, usually most recently PM Makarov/ SW5903 with back-up CZ45. Now seriously: You sum us up pretty well and only what I can add to the topic is- firearms are not the problem, public health IS. If the society is sick, no matter what is or isn´t allowed (I hate this word), people will act more agressively. Look at the china- they don´t have school shootings but they have a lot of knive- hammer- machete- you-name-it attacks pretty often.
We had a firearm safety class in my school! I was in first grade in Baytown Texas. The whole school was brought to an auditorium they brought out a bunch of guns and taught us gun safety. The 1970s God I miss it those were the days.
Or address the problems that USA with health and education, especially the first. And also, only allow the sale of firearms in places specialized in that type of thing with people licensed to sell them; that would help a lot to the problem that USA has.
Speaking of exposing kids to firearm safety in schools, not only did that happen when I grew up in the 1960s, they also warned us about the dangers of picking up blasting caps. Didn't realize that was much of a problem bac, then, but I guess enough kids had fingers/hands blown off where they needed to do something..
Armament Manufacturers and Sales need to be HEAVILY regulated. I hold them solely responsible for our drug problem, gang violence and deaths of service members. Bad guys find ways to get guns but they sure as hell don't mass produce em. In the end i don't mind paying a high price to keep my guns but i don't want negligent morons with guns around me.
I agree that thawed should be classes on gun safety but there should also be a complete deregulation of all firearms because any and all laws that prohibit the use purchase or sale of any weapon of only kind exempt wmd, chem, and bio weapons is an infringement of the second amendment “ A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” and while there are arguments that it is only for a militia. Every single American citizen is that milita tsp that we do not and never have to put up with unjust tyranny like the British rule of old or the nazis and communists that would take everything away from us today even as we watch and listen they strive to bring fascism to the forfront so that their reign of terror can be complete
This is my stance. If YOU REALLY care more about CHILDRENS LIVES than you do about your gun control and subverting the constitution? You will CONSIDER ALL OPTIONS. I will not discuss gun control until after THIS. IT IS THE ANSWER TO MASS SHOOTINGS. The subversives of the constitution. Want more GOVERNMENT LAW. So let's point at it and show the folly of this argument. " law by design exists to define criminal behavior NOT STOP IT. Criminal justice and Sentencing is supposed to be the deterrent. If there is a proliferation of a particular crime? Say mass shootings it is the FAULT OF GOVERNMENT PROSECUTORS AND JUDGES. for example anyone reading this, think to yourself and contemplate the answer. Of all the mass shooters captured, what was the disposition of their cases, what was the punishment, did it fit the crime and did it send a message of deterrent? THE GOVERNMENTS PUNISHMENT FOR CRIME IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE DETERRENT. YET we don't even know what the punishments were. So if we don't know? The next mass shooter doesn't know either. We have this problem because NOBODY IS DISSUADED FOR FEAR OF THE PUNISHMENT. Some of these guys are fine with dying going out in a attention grabbing blaze of glory, in their minds. What would happen if there was a very PUBLIC PAINFUL CORPORAL PUNISHMENT? To those who would say cruel and unusual punishment. I would say yes the children in U vald e Were cruelly and unusually murdered. Think about the visuals of elementary children at that scene............... Now tell me again about the punishment befitting a crime like that . How is it cruel and unusual? The point is government criminal justice punishment is supposed to be the deterrent. YET HERE WE ARE! How can people ask why does this happen? It is glaringly obvious. Government Criminal justice is not justice nor a deterrent." With governments failure so obvious. I will stick to my own guns and be my own first responder".The only thing that needs to be done to STOP MASS SHOOTERS? IS: To get your fricken eyes off the law abiding, the firearm and focus on the THOSE SHOOTERS. !THE PERPETRATORS! It is time to bring swift and painful corporal punishment back as a DETERRENT. IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO? YOU PLACE THE SHOOTER ABOVE THE LIVES OF INCENT CHILDREN SLAUGHTERED PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE. Awesome morality you have. SMH If you are not willing to do this? You digust me I am not willing to listen to you. I sure am not willing to go ANY FARTHER ON MY, NOT GUILTY, CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS FOR YOUR WARPED SENSE OF MORLITY.
How does a gun safety course teach a kid to survive a school shooting…? Wouldn’t that…at MOST just keep the shooter a better grip on what to do? Are we putting guns in their hands to fight back now?
In the same way that left-wing media showcased the complete nutjob outliers of Trump supporters, I have hard time believing that the vast majority in the pro-gun control movement, act like those showcased in Brandon's video. It just adds to the massive division that already exists.
@ ManBearPig Have u ever spoken with these people? the anti gunners really know NOTHING about guns or what laws already exist. Everyday you can find new twitter posts complaining about how easy it is for criminals to buy "automatic" rifles or "assault rifles" bc there aren't background checks....they think 5.56 is the most devastating round ever invented and prefer gun addicts stick with "safer" and "less lethal" 12 gauge shotguns. They think semi auto means warp speed super death mode while saying "guns the police carry are more reasonable"...They are demanding things they don't understand at all, while hysterically calling you a heartless murderer and spitting on you. They "joke" about k1llign NRA members and conservatives bc its not a joke. they want you dead.
@@AdamRitchie2 Yes I have, I have family members and friends who are anti-gun, and they're not as clueless as the loud mouths you see on Brandon's video. Most the people I know who are anti-gun, don't want a total ban on guns or semi-auto rifles, but they want laws that make it more difficult for people like the Uvalde shooter to get their hands on them in the first place. I'm sick and tired of the extreme cases always being put on display, we've seen it time and time again over the last few years, because they grab headlines. But the US is a country of 330 million people, if we were all extreme left-wingers or right-wingers, it would never work. So no, I'm 99.9% certain that this is not a black and white issue for most people.
@@G33KSPALACEdotCOM But there are plenty of people who want to ban rifles and even all guns. And your family members are helping them achieve that agenda one step at a time. They want 'more' gun control laws that dont work and create 'more' victims instead of allowing good people to carry in "gun free zones" like MAC discussed in this video. Are you even pro liberty? U seem kinda lost tbh. And yeah it IS a black and white issue for Americans who actually value and understand the 2nd Amendment.
30 people in Kyoto Animations Japan killed by a guy with gasoline bombs. Happened a few years ago, but only mentioned in a few circles in the US. Why? Nothing to do with guns.
Wasn't there also an incident involving an AR-style rifle over there? I love Japan, but they have some of the strictest firearm laws on the planet - yet it won't stop Yakuza or other criminal organizations from acquiring them and distributing them. Also, last time I visited, there was a person who plowed through crowds of people with a van before hopping out and proceeding to stab them left and right. It ain't the tools - it's the people.
@@tortol4847 Thank you for the clarification. It's a shit world and people need to realize that just because we made all these technological and societal advancements, it doesn't change a damn thing about the rules of nature. Nothing can stop the evil in this world other than equal or greater force.
The Bow & Arrow psycho was in Norway. To female cops armed with both MP5 and HK P30 each, fled the scene when the killing started. Unarmed civillians stopped the killer. Greetings from Norway btw.
@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 Yes thats right. I think he hit an off duty cop inthe back with the bow & arrow. Fortunately the cop survived. The perpetrator claimed he did the killing in the name of Ji%ad. But the authorities denounced that by claiming he was just insane. Go figure.
@@mr.nobody6457 It could be a case of politically correct denialism, but in my country Australia back in 2014, we had a guy who did a siege in a cafe in Sydney and attempted to do a mass shooting of his hostages (most of which barely escaped his rapid fire), he was an Iranian who claimed to have done it in the name of Islam, but the problem with this claim was that he was also involved in Satanic witchcraft which is not compatible with being a muslim (he also lied about being a rogue secret agent to get into the country as an asylum seeker), so it could be possible that a lot of people who do attacks like this are simply mad, I think for a Scandinavian to do it is sign of insanity for sure.
I think the increase in shooters are just symptoms of a sick society. Lost a lot of moral compass in America and kids are being taught to despise others and hate themselves, too soft and can’t deal with problems.
nooooooooooooooooooooooo, they are the result of gun control which disarms citizens making them susceptible to violent attacks, get a clue.🤡 society has always been sick and always will be, carrying guns protects us period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mass shooting is a cultural meme now and it wasn't before. If you hate everyone in society including your own family and yourself, corporate media has shown time and time again that perpetrating a mass shooting is an easy way to make everyone mad on your way out. Mass shooters are fundamentally nothing more than trolls and giving them negative attention is exactly what drives them.
Did Tim just say that Assault Rifle (2:50) is a made-up term? "Assault Weapon" is the made-up term, Assault Rifle is a term used by militaries around the world, where even the US military acknowledges this term: *_“Assault rifles are short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachinegun and rifle cartridges. Assault rifles have mild recoil characteristics and, because of this, are capable of delivering effective full-automatic fire at ranges up to 300 meters."_* _- Document FSTC-CW-07-03-70 - US Army Small Arms Identification and Operations Guide, pg 67 para 68_
One of the main issues with this possible gun ban is how undereducated people are on gun rights, simply because you're not allowed to talk about them in schools unless it's a political debate. People then become adults, go to these protests in the big cities, unaware of how easy it is to be a responsible gun owner.
@@ramonandrajo6348 the US on the whole spends FAR more on mental health than any other time in our country’s history. Clearly meaning we care about mental health. Just doesn’t work on truly crazy people bent on killing.
That would require more government interaction and you can bet your bottom dollar these fine gentlemen would never vote for any politician that would raise taxes to pay for more psychological services. Especially when a fraction of said money would inevitably go to helping teens with gender dysphoria.
@@whitescar2 actually, the vast majority (well over 99%) of gun owners are law abiding good responsible gun owners. Trust me on this….YOU WOULD KNOW IT IF THAT WERE NOT TRUE!!! Lol
I can't help but smile when it comes to the NRA meeting, Brandon Herrera's video was hilarious, don't make the same mistake we did, don't give up your guns, from Sweden.
Sweden is my favorite place to be when I'm away from home. I hope your government stops giving you guys a bend over and you start to get your country back.
When did Sweden "give up their guns" ? I have a friend in Halmstead who is a high school teacher. I visted him while working in Oslo a year ago, He's got about 8 hunting rifles including an FN-FNC and a nice Benelli .12g. AND yes, he has pistols; Browning HP MkIII, HKP7 in .380, and a Walther P99. So when exactly did Swedes gtive up their guns, or is my friend leading a secret life as a Swedish firearms offedner.
@@lacko90 If you are from Sweden, shouldn't you know the process? Lol, sounds like this teacher went through the process just fine. If the police rejected you application for firearms, makes me wonder about you lol.
YES, exactly. They don't want the problem solved. They want the shootings to keep happening so they can use them politically to drive the anti-gun BS. This is why they refuse to actually protect the schools, flat out refuse. But HEY, they're all safe behind THEIR detail of armed guards!
You guys are all special boys, i am live in europe, we don´t have mass shoothings like you guys, and its been more than 20 years since columbine, and nothing changed. Keep doing what you guys do, keep the body count higher and higher.
MAC, I appreciate you consistently advocating and having a dialogue about this. I feel that many pew YT channels avoid the conversation fearing a loss of revenue.
According to the FBI, in 2021, California had the most active shooter incidents, which is the most gun-restrictive state in the union. In 17 of the 61 incidents, law enforcement “engaged the shooter,” while there were 6 incidents where citizens either “engaged” the attacker or where “citizen involvement impacted the engagement.” In other words, it took a "Good Guy With a Gun" to stop a criminal that was misusing a firearm.
Or address the problems that USA with health and education, especially the first. And also, only allow the sale of firearms in places specialized in that type of thing with people licensed to sell them; that would help a lot to the problem that USA has.
They don’t actually want to stop them though. They simply want to use them to further a political agenda. They could care less about the actual victims of these murders.
Much like the climate change thing, no one ever proposes actual solutions, because the climate change people are overwhelmingly socialists and see it as a means to advance redistributionist economic policies.
Exactly. It was Kennedy in the 60's along with the ACLU that stopped our ability to prevent psychos from causing mass murder. The government WANTS this and they will never go back.
i believe its even more insidious than that , seems like the frequency of "mass shootings" goes up when democrats are way down in the polls when an election is close .
Standing guard at my children's' schools would be more meaningful service than the 10 years I spent in the Army. And I guarantee there's a ton of vets that feel the same. I am loving these square table discussion videos. Great job guys.
@@thefrogking481 amen man. I've done security work and those jobs are a joke. Observe and report is it. That will not be the case if working at a school. Like you said, no quarter
How about you spend that time actually trying to solve the problem and help out the people with mental illness (because it's obvious all the mass shooters are mentality ill) and prevent them from getting guns in the first place. Then you wouldn't have to turn your school's into prisons and let the mass shooters still exist and plan around your defenses.
@@thefrogking481 if you give “no quarter” to a suspect expect to spend a few decades locked up. I’ve been a police officer for over 28 years. I can tell you that will NOT work for you here in civilian days.
Having lived in London for 2 years, I can honestly say any gun control is just feel good legislation with no impact on those who would carry out evil deeds. Instead of guns, criminals used knives and vehicles to hurt people while I was in London. Want to buy some new cutlery? I had to show my ID to buy a steak knife because gangs would use those knives to commit crimes. Want to have a folding pocket knife that locks back, sorry, those are illegal in London. You can have one that doesn't lock back, which makes no sense. We can never permit any such bans in the US. Thank god for the 2nd Amendment.
@@NotDumbassable What if they had a homemade IED? What if they had a car bomb? What if they had a biological agent? What if they immolated their victims? What if they just permanently disfigured their victim with acid?
If such a ban is passed I strongly suspect that it will quickly end up in the Supreme Court docket. The existing SCOTUS precedent in Marbury v Madison says that such a law would be invalid even before it gets passed. All laws repugnant to the Constitution are void. Murdock v Pennsylvania has already determined that the state cannot convert a Right into a Privilege and require a license for it. US v Miller defined weapons protected by the 2nd amendment as all that are 'of use to the militia’, and the militia is described as all citizens capable of bearing arms. IE, the entire armed population. I think it was the Heller case that further noted that the 2nd amendment protects arms in common use. And, according to the BATFE, the AR-15 pattern rifle is the most popular rifle, currently. Heller deviates from the Founders somewhat though. Heller limited the “in common use” to lawful purposes, whereas the Founders spoke in terms of “in common use” by the military. This was mainly so that armed civilians that showed up to help the military could be resupplied with ammunition, from the government supplies, that would function in the Militia weapons.
Rep. Mondaire Jones (D-NY) recently said the following about this latest push: "You will not stop us from passing [gun control]. If the filibuster obstructs us, we will abolish it. If the Supreme Court objects, we will expand. We will not rest until we've taken weapons of war out of our communities." These people are willing to burn all institutions to the ground.
I would hate to rely on the Supreme Court because Democrats are trying to destroy that as well. And if Roe v. Wade does get overturned (as it should) you know they will use that as an excuse to be able to try and go back and undo anything they can.
@@CBR600RR05 I can't argue against your point on that. It would be great if SCOTUS came back with a decision on the New York Rifle and Pistol case with a reminder that not only can NY not arbitrarily deny a permit, but that existing SCOTUS precedent prohibited the permit requirements to begin with.
@Kev Campbell And *such* phrases ("a falsely installed regime") shows how you don't have the slightest bit of respect for the rule of law, yet crying me a river about gun laws. Laws don't work in a "pick and choose" fashion. Pathetic.
I live in Romania, there's no de facto gun ban in place, but guns are regulated and you have to pass certain checks when applying for a permit, and getting a gun. We have almost 0 gun crime, and crime is low in general. I think it's down to culture.
@Kev Campbell there's no political polarization in favor or against gun ownership in most European countries. In fact we did have full communism for about 45 years, and the laws were actually tightened a bit by the democratic government at some point.
@Kev Campbell you're still far from it. Comparing even the ineffective government you have there with totalitarian regimes only demeans the tens of millions of victims they left behind.
MAC, as a licensed conceal carrier for nearly 8 years and also being a public high school teacher for over 20 years, I would be comfortable carrying in my work environment if it were legal to do so. I appreciate your support for those of us wishing to protect the lives of our students and ourselves.
We need more teachers who are in favor of doing exactly what you are talking about. Teachers are a great way to harden the school and provide protection of our children. I would like to see this implementated asap. Thank you for your help in bringing this type of behavior into a end.
@@ramonandrajo6348 You are right we need to address mental health issues. If we were smart we would bring back prayer and God in schools. This is what happened that allowed this to start happening. When I was a kid I would bring my guns to school and there was never a school shooting. We need to let people with concealed weapons permits to carry in the schools of our nation.
If it’s going to be gun free zone, they have to do more than put up a sign. Install metal detectors check points etc. You can debate the necessity of schools being gun free zones or lawful concealed carry zones, but it has to be one ore the other. Putting a gun free zone sign up is just an invitation to an evil person he’ll bent on infamy.
The Navy Base where that mass shooter went a few years back was a hardened target with gate guards holding full autos. He killed several so hardening doesn’t work well either.
Last night, a school bus full of 4th graders was struck with a car by a drunk driver, killing 19. The fire department refused to go to help the kids in the burning wreck, holding back bystanders due to fear of a gas explosion. In support of this tragedy, we will be introducing legislation to ban the private ownership and a mandatory buyback of all SUV vehicles. A SUV is defined as a passenger vehicle that can hold more than 2 passengers, has off road capability, and has at least 4 doors. It is sensible motor vehicle controls aimed at saving the lives of children. Noone needs such a large and powerful vehicle to go to the grocery store. Think of the police, there could be a bunch of violent gang bangers in there that could over power an officer during a traffic stop.
As funny and as asinine as this is, it's EXACTLY just how stupid ass, power hungry politicians and anti-gunners think and treat firearms. Pathetic. Great post!
The shooters of Columbine (18, 17 acquired through friends who acquired legally but were under 25), Aurora (24 legally acquired), Virginia Tech (23 legally acquired), Sandy Hook (18 used parents' guns), Parkland (19 legally acquired), Buffalo (19 legally acquired), and Uvalde (18 legally acquired).
Copies of this video should be sent to all members of our governing bodies as well as all teachers, principals and superintendents in all our school systems. You guys are solid!
they asked the biden admin if they were gonna make plans to harden our schools and they said no, they thought that was bad. they don't really care about kids safety, they just want gun control. the dead kids are just a means to an end for them. they could hire multiple veterans for security. have exit only doors, for all back and side exits. have a gun powder sniffing dog who barks, it doesn't even need to be a scary looking dog just one with a good nose. put a chain link fence around certain perimeters, you need a fence so a pervert/kidnappr cant get on the playground. you can harden schools without them feeling like a prison. but they wont because the dems need dead kids for powergrabs.
@@ramonandrajo6348 You dont get it. Even if your perfect healthcare system existed and there was zero mental illness in America, the alphabet agencies would fabricate these shootings in order to achieve the desired agenda which is the eventual disarming of civilians. They are literally paid to run ops like these every day in foreign countries. Why wouldn't they do it here? The goal is ultimate control.
Yup. I've been debating guns on FB with a friend and he finally admitted he just wanted them 100% banned and he was lying about just wanting marginally more gun control. Dems are all about lying and manipulation. Dishonest people. (I say this as a libertarian.)
Or address the problems that USA with health and education, especially the first. And also, only allow the sale of firearms in places specialized in that type of thing with people licensed to sell them; that would help a lot to the problem that USA has.
I very much appreciate you guys having this round table discussion. Tim, you are always great in front of the camera. Jason, you are very articulate and I really appreciate your perspective. You guys make a great team.
Yes, I thought the same. Having one or more assigned SRO to each school will help to deter active shooting. Trained armed school personnel will be force multiplier. Getting rid of gun free zones.
Or address the problems that USA with health and education, especially the first. And also, only allow the sale of firearms in places specialized in that type of thing with people licensed to sell them; that would help a lot to the problem that USA has.
@@ramonandrajo6348 I agree that healthcare should be less expensive. But we shouldn't be required to pay for the healthcare of others. And it isn't illegal to sell a firearm to someone who you know isn't a criminal (nor should it be).
@@brettdavison3870 yes mental health has been an issue. Problem is records like that is private and would violate privacy confidentiality, the Second Amendment is this country's God given rights...gun control of any measure is a violating that right. The only we could do that wouldn't violate any of the two would be to increase security at the school. Tighter access control. Armed presence.
I really appreciate all you do for the Second Amendment. It would be great if you could post sources for studies mentioned. I often point out videos like these to friends with differing opinions and if there are links to sources they can click on it makes the point stronger because they can read it for themselves. Again, thank you!
A round table is not 2+ people sitting around, patting each other on the back for views they knew they shared before they sat down - Fox News and MSNBC has that looked after. You want a round table? Then get intelligent people with different perspectives and have an honest and open debate (with real time fact checking from agreed sources.
What's interesting to me as a nosy foreigner whose opinion doesn't count (🇭🇲) is how easily military ordinance is accepted in American civilian life. Most countries are built on the concept of keeping the military a totally separate entity from the rest of civil space but the US is founded on the idea of making people's civil defense their own responsibility; in that context the civilian ownership of military grade weapons is acceptable and actually expected as part of their civil duty. That makes sense to me. Nice to hear a sensible conversation about this, gentlemen. Good format, too, works for me.
Americans have always had a fetish for police and military. It's nauseating. The whole 1776 fetish plays into it. Look up the 1033 Program. That's just one of the reasons why US police are militarized.
Elementary school, DARE officers explained dangers of drugs, and I'm pretty sure (it's been over 20 years now) they explained guns. Very basic like "don't touch; get an adult", but there was something. For reference, I'm 30 and that was Akron Ohio, Seiberling elementary school.
I Am One of Many VETS That Would Gladly Donate My Time To Defend The Schools! Pay for My Own Required Training and Gear/ Uniforms To Protect The Innocent!
The whole “stop making them famous” thing worked for hostage situations, but will not work for shootings because we will always make a big deal out of the dead. It is a human thing. Most remember Gettysburg not the generals who fought there, they would still want to be the general there though right?
@@daviddundrea3424 That's not true and we can look to China as an example. They had a lot of mass arson and knife stabbings (before they went crazy with COVID and now just locked everyone in their homes) and the government-controlled media always censored the perpetrators' names and pictures. It made absolutely zero difference in stopping copycat crimes. It does not matter whether the killers think they'll become famous or not, they're going to commit their atrocities anyway.
I own guns. I’m not into shooting sports, I’m not into hunting. I have them for one purpose. Self protection and to fight government tyranny. Any effort to ban guns is tyranny in my eyes. And tyranny isn’t tolerated.
Or address the problems that USA with health and education, especially the first. And also, only allow the sale of firearms in places specialized in that type of thing with people licensed to sell them; that would help a lot to the problem that USA has.
This video is spot on. We should be securing our schools instead of banning guns. Criminals ignore laws, passing more laws is senseless and accomplishes nothing. Well trained and armed school security shooting a bad guy dead would protect our children, not silly gun laws.
The Netflix Ricky Gervais special basically highlights how we celebrate mental illness now instead of identifying it and trying to help these people. I mean in the 50's, tons of things were called mental illness that weren't, but today things have gone way too far in the opposite direction. Now, we as a society are paying the price for it.
Mental illness such as the added stress of costs for everything being double to triple in price and all the hate and division pushed by politicians and media?
I had a debate with a friend of mine. She said wants to end these things, and was trying to come up with a solution. I told her exactly what you are talking about; make schools a hard target.
It wont help to harden schools. Mass shootings occur everywhere. Grocery stores, theaters ,colleges, post offices, playgrounds, parks, workplaces. Armed guards have not helped. It’s interesting that this site advocates military arms in its logo. Waiting periods of several days would probably help a bunch. The fact that all mass shooters have bought their guns legally is a massive problem. Law abiding gun owners need to stand up for gun regulation to cut gun violence. A waiting period would reduce suicides, and more mass shootings are themselves suicides by cop. So waiting period of ten days would be essential to curbing impulse buying. Once the gun is purchased it’s almost impossible to stop a mass shooter. I also believe anyone who buys a gun should be required to have in person class training and field training and “active shooter drills” to show gun owners what indeed is possible and not possible where guns are concerned. The myth of gun ownership is that guns make us safer. For the most part they do not. You cannot react quickly enough to respond to an active shooter unless you know ahead of time where one will be. Armed guards have failed in every school shooting; good guys with guns come running into situations and are either shooting innocent bystanders or lot getting shot by police as they confuse the situation. Waiting periods I think are the place to start with substantial in person training in how to use a gun safety and legally.
@@skylark1250 not sure how hardening schools won't help? Will it be 100% effective? No. But beats a "gun free zone" sign. I think allowing faculty to carry is a good step. And according to the FBI, last year 6 civilians stop mass shootings with firemarms, and 14 were stopped by law enforcement. I agree that firearms training is extremely important. But I can't support making it mandatory for ownership. That takes it from being a right to a privilege that can be taken away if you don't jump through the right hoops. Call me cynical but that would just be exploited to make gun ownership harder and hard.
@@andrewdaw6050 You cannot “harden” schools. It won’t do any good. Make schools look like prisons? We have lost our freedom because of guns. And mass shootings should not be something we have to accept so you can have the right to own a gun. And if you don’t take the in person safety training and legal instructions as to what you can and cannot do with a gun, then you should not be allowed to own one. You have to take a test to drive a car. You must pass a course in gun use. Including mass shooter training. Guns won’t save you. We should be the safest country on earth. We are not. And no hardening of schools will work. You still have to buy groceries, visit hospitals (my sister witnessed the murder of a fellow nurse at work), post offices,theaters, colleges, work places, offices, etc. what are you going to do? Put armed guards everywhere? None have ever stopped a shooter. The number one cause of death for children and teens is guns. Armed citizens have never stopped a mass murder. The Gabby Gifford shooting perfectly illustrated the problem. A good guy with a gun cane running out of the grocery store and into the parking lot. He was going to shoot an innocent bystander because he thought that person was the shooter. The crowd yelled at him to stop. Then the police started shooting at him because they thought HE was the shooter. Civilians may end a mass shooting but they don’t stop it before the killings have happened. Guns don’t make you safer. They make you a target.
Love it. I almost feel like even having an anti-gunner/pro-gun control advocate on the round table might be even more productive in conversation. You guys know your stuff and being able to bridge to the other side is exactly what we need right now.
I am the administrator of a 500 student private school in Florida. We have fenced facilities, over 100 monitored security cameras on campus, and highly trained armed security and teachers. The training exceeds FDLE SWAT team gun qualification. We train for tactical entries, room clearing, and ballistic shield training. A large number of law-enforcement officers enroll their children at our school as a result of safety issues. We make it publicly known if you come on our campus with the intent to harm children we will use lethal force. That’s how to stop school shootings.
MAC should talk about the correlation between the rise in social media, general unhappiness, and mass shootings. The channel MedCram has some compelling graphs in their recent video.
Hitch is.. Social media didn't exist the way it does today for several years after Columbine, and we had a mad rush of shootings happening then. A lack of social media may contribute to - but does not stop the epidemic. Also - that genie is out of it's bottle. You'd have to convince millions of parents to not give their children cell phones, and thousands of schools to take away technology from the classroom.
It's never taken more than a couple of calm, respectful conversations with an anti gun advocate, to rethink their emotional response to the problems related to incidents where a gun was used. Talk to people. Ask logical questions. Let them feel good that you have firearms.
@@TheRealHorridus Assault weapon is a fantasy term, yes. But I guess you could use it as some kind of rarely used term for something specificly broad. I don't know, English terminology isn't my best suit.
AR15's are not select fire. They are either on "safe" or "fire". Like the vast, vast majority of firearms in existence whether they are semi-auto, single shot, bolt action, etc. Military grade M16/M4's are select fire. Those are not available to the general public nor legal to own by the general public without special licensing. AR15's are not M16/M4's no matter how much they resemble one another from a distance.
@@mopreppinmolivin Yes, semi-autos aren't select fire. Select fire guns are select fire. The semi-auto AssaultRifle-15 isn't select fire US military rifle Model 16, but the M16 is AssaultRifle-15, because it's ArmaLite's Rifle No. 15.
@@juhokuusisto9339 The point being made in the video regarding the term "assault rifle" being "made up" is in the context of that term being universally used by anti-gun leftists to describe the millions of semi-auto (civilian version) AR15's that are owned by millions of gun owners in the U.S. currently. Which by your definition are NOT "assault rifles/assault weapons". But the politicians who are pushing the anti-gun agenda are not honest about that. Which in turn convinces many Americans that every AR15 sold in the U.S is an "assault rifle". As well it has caused many to believe the AR stands for "assault rifle" when in fact stands for Armalite Rifle (the manufacturer of the original version). Both of those narratives are totally false and continue to be used by dishonest politicians such as the President and reinforced by lackey's in the media.
why does not one ask, "what drove this young man to resort to such vile acts?". Was he perhaps mistreated, disregarded, etc.? Did a combination of factors push him to the brink, causing him to start posting shit, perhaps as a plea for help, and when no one responded in any meaningful way, eventually he snapped. Why do we never look at the root causes of what makes people go bad? Economics, bullying, depression, suicide, single parent households, poverty, lack of discipline, lack of good male role models, lack of purpose in life, social media, etc.
That requires looking at complex factors with a rational, non biased, understanding perspective. The number of people who can do that is rather limited, it seems. It is far easier to shout and stomp and demand action, or to propose or pass feel good laws that accomplish little if anything. Solving the boy problem here in the feminist West would require re-examining far too many ideas that have become ensconced as sacred cows, unquestionable dogma in our "progressive" society. That takes courage, which, sadly, is in short supply in our political class, and is dwindling alarmingly among the general population.
I live in a town of 6000 people. 4 schools. 3 resource officers. Also there are teachers in each school that have firearms . Double entry doors with cameras. You have to be buzzed in unless you are an employee. Signs located at each entry that staff is armed .
I just found out that Ohio governor is signing a bill that allows teachers and adults to conceal and carry on school grounds, I do not know the details exactly but it is something to that extent. Hell when I went to school as a young kid in the 80's. I remember we had to go through armed security, and get checked before we even entered the school, everybody did, and that wasn't even a bad community.
Both extremes in our country are crazy. The normal people in the middle who want to go to work, take care of their kids and be left alone need to take the country back.
The difference is their are about 27 crazies on the right who exist primarily online and are ostracized from society at large, including those on the mainstream right. The left is primarily composed of crazies who get hundred of millions of dollars of backing to commit acts of terrorism, are covered positively by mainstream media, and have tacit approval by elected leftists and law enforcement.
The goal should be to prevent the shooting from even happening, and if it starts, putting the shooter down as soon as possible. This shouldn’t be a divisive goal. Imagine for a second if somebody could have stopped the shooter in Texas 5 minutes after it started. There has to be somebody there to actually respond to and eliminate the threat. It never occurs to pro gun control advocates that in order for a mass shooting to happen, there has to be a person who consciously wants to kill a bunch of people. Taking away guns doesn’t make that person not want to carry out an atrocity.
Exactly, as I like to say, for these criminals, the gun is merely a means to an end and not the end itself. These people are deranged and sick in the head, but not having access to gun is going to stop them since their goal isn't to simply shoot up a school, or a church, or whatever, it's to cause as much harm as possible. You deny them a gun, they'll find another way and at the end of the day, the victims will still be dead. It's not like people are somehow more dead because they were killed by a gun as opposed to a knife.
@@jintsuubest9331 which is why cops shouldn’t be the first and last line of defense. Bolster the security, close off entrances into the building. If something still happens, have somebody present who’s trained, willing, and able to dome a shooter if need be. Even if there was 1 cop in Texas, that cop should have had zero problem going in and dropping an 18 year old cross dresser. Even if it was scary for the police, because, you know, kids are being shot.
I went to the SSI office the other day and they had a full armed Security Officer, who was pretty cool fyi, we got to talking about what happened and what was going on...He fully agreed we need people like him "Guarding our Children and schools"...
As a fireman, just because we’re showing up with a fire truck and thousands of gallons of water doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be able to own fire extinguishers. Same thing for guns, just because we have police doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be able to carry your gun. I liked the statement “you are your own first responder”. Moral of the story, don’t rely on anyone but yourself for your own protection. Police, EMS, Fire etc. are all great things to have, but how long will it take for them to get to you?
It's more likely that you are going to accidentally hurt yourself or someone you know than protect yourself with a firearm. Quite a bit different than owning a fire extinguisher.
@@d15p4tch6 Absolutely not, if you train, practice marksmanship and have the right state of mind during a self defense situation you will help the situation. But just to be the devils advocate, someone could theoretically do more harm than good with trying to put out a fire themselves(water on a grease fire etc.), does that mean firemen would advocate that you shouldn’t own a fire extinguisher or be allowed to spray a water hose on a fire on your property? No. Respectfully, your point makes no sense.
@@secedenc5544 it's a fact. Statistically, if you own a gun, you are more likely to hurt yourself or someone you know than to use it in self-defense. Why are you arguing with a fact
@@drewhobbs6837 I would say it depends on the situation, a gun fight & fire can change in a split second. A roof could cave in on the hallway you just walked through, just like you think you have 1 home intruder but really there are multiple and one is coming in the back while a few are coming through the front (blocking your escape route). I would say have a main “pre-plan” set in place, have a backup plan and be able to change it if things start going sideways for both of them. In general tho I would say always go out the way you came in when talking about a fire, for multiple reasons such as the hose, you know it’s structurally sound, etc. but also never leave the structure without the guy(s) you went in with.
16:40 correction, if I may: Government stepped out of the way and basically said they ARENT going to stop this. They showed their true colors and let us know we are on our own. There were multiple opportunities to defuse/de-escalate the "summer of love riots", that were not taken prior to them getting to a point where they could say we CANT stop this
they asked the biden admin if they were gonna make plans to harden our schools and they said no, they thought that was bad. they don't really care about kids safety, they just want gun control. the dead kids are just a means to an end for them. they could hire multiple veterans for security. have exit only doors, for all back and side exits. have a gun powder sniffing dog who barks, it doesn't even need to be a scary looking dog just one with a good nose. put a chain link fence around certain perimeters, you need a fence so a pervert/kidnappr cant get on the playground. you can harden schools without them feeling like a prison. but they wont because the dems need dead kids for powergrabs.
Fun fact the word automatic used to refer to self loading firearms when self-loading firearms were first invented. The word automatic changed in definition to fully automatic firing when it was convenient for politicians to limit the access of powerful small arms for civilians. This is always been about the government maintaining the highest amount of force above the citizens. Every government that is acted like this has subsequently oppressed and killed their own citizens once those firearms were successfully seized.
It changed in definition when weapons could fire multiple rounds with one trigger pull. Why are you talking out your ass like it's a conspiracy? Clearly there's a difference. If you want to talk about the ridiculous semantics of Assault weapons, that's something I can get behind
A comment on gun safety education prompted a forgotten memory of mine - in high school, a health teach had us submit topics we wanted covered that year, and I wrote, then subsequently spoke to him about touching on gun safety, what you do if you find a gun, finger off the trigger, etc, really basic stuff that maybe people hadn't been exposed to. He told me, not that it was inappropriate, but that we wouldn't because he "just didn't like guns". Glad we spent 40 something hours on venereal disease though.
I had constant safety courses, range time, and 1o1 pointers with firearms instructors as a Venturing Scout when I was i teenager. I learned about different types of pistols, rifles, and shotguns, obviously how to properly handle them ad what to do during some type of malfunction. I probably knew more about firearms and ammo by the time I was 19 than most of these politicians grew. An my knowledge and experience only grew from there over the years.
As a gun owner, I really feel we should solidify our talking points, but it really feels like it's not here in this video. Calling people violent, deranged, and hypocritical is not an argument. Self-victimizing and talking about how we're called domestic terrorists and how people wish violence on us doesn't do anything either. If anything, both of those would just contribute to a cycle of refusing to have a proper conversation from both sides. Both sides end up cherrypicking arguments and choosing the worst to deconstruct. Gun safety courses in schools could be beneficial, but its not comparable to sex ed classes. There were some good points in this video, but they weren't expanded upon enough. There have been articles claiming that blunt force trauma has not killed more than firearms, and we would better spend our time disproving that rather than just putting up one screenshot of an article and moving along to the next point. Pointing out that overly detailed media coverage of a shooter's life could inspire other shooters is a great point, but that should be expanded upon again such as talking to mental health professionals and asking if this really could be the case. And while it is true that a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun, that isn't really a solution either because it doesn't prevent a shooting from happening. A huge missed opportunity is talking about how proposed gun control laws are flawed such as red flag laws or so called universal background checks. We have to face the fact that we live in a reality where saying "it's my right" is not a sufficient enough answer to convince others from enacting gun control, and that we have to better explain our perspectives and viewpoints while using constructive language.
I was ready for some well thought out responses but it did sound like a lot of victimization. They are getting the worst arguments of anti gun owners and speaking as if it is the entire community. President Biden even recognized just yesterday that guns can’t be taken away but there needs to be more sensible laws. Let’s be honest it’s pretty easy for anyone to get a hold of a firearm. Bringing up anecdotal things like the H3H3 video about bombing the building and Cecil the Lion is really Hacky. They don’t like catch phrases but use their own “you’re your own first responder” “it’s not the gun it’s the owner”. Nothing new nothing constructive. Sincerely, a gun owner
The debate is over. The other side doesn't want to have one. What gun owners need to do is early-stage cultural outreach. Have community-organized first-time shooter sessions. Go to your local cultural centers and hand out fliers offering to educate non-gun owning demographics and offer range time. Stream something non-political, such as video games and raise money and encourage gun rights activism among your viewer base.
You should interview people who disagree with you. The problem with putting out a discussion where you’re surrounded by people that agree is that there’s not a lot of new ground uncovered.
@@barnett25 the Florida Guardian program acknowledges this and they train with the school resource officers. The police and guardians. will know exactly which teachers are carrying and are present that particular day. They also train together. Every state needs to adopt something like very similar to the Florida school Guardian program.
@@mayorwest3265 So you think I should continue to be disarmed? Are you arguing that I am more capable of defending myself and my students with NO weapons?
Is there a source that I could use against the argument of the 1994 assault weapons ban? I am having trouble finding a source which helps to show that the ban was useless.
If you are seriously suggesting this was a false flag operation for a domestic party’s political game…please go get a psych eval…or cite a concrete source corroborated by primary witnesses, audio, text, and other evidence…. Otherwise save it for Info Wars.
Awesome video! I really liked the conversation format. This is why MAC is one of my favorite channels. Content is always well structured so well and presented professionally.
Having the luxury of having lived a long time I remember the time when there was a proliferation of “gang violence“ that involved shootings. It seems like overnight “gang violence“ has disappeared completely from the narrative and been replaced by “gun violence“. How come no one‘s talking about who’s pulling the trigger?
They don’t really want gun control; their goal is to “do something” while evading addressing the economic issues that drive most homicides and suicides (not just gun related).
Correction, they don't think gun control will fix violence, they just want to use it as an excuse to take away guns. Their real goal is not to end violence, but to deprive the people of the right and ability to resist Tyranny.
I watched a meeting talking about yellow and red flag laws. Most of speakers were for it. The state in question had a yellow flag law that allow law enforcement to red flag people. When asked why those laws were not used on gang dealers to curb gun violence the police rep stated it was too dangerous to serve yellow flag laws on known gang members. I was floored, he basically admitted they had no intention of using red flag laws on actual threats and would only enforce the law on law abiding citizens.
@@mrbreck1 red flag laws are about disarming lawful gun owners. Gun control laws in general have been used to target minority communities with surveillance state. Look into Bloomberg’s involvement with stop and frisk and Everytown, and the Clinton Omnibus Crime Bill. They used an agenda of targeting the fears of college educated urban and suburban white women, in combination with lies regarding the GOP being racist to win elections. Now they are doing the same thing, but expanding the target list to include working class white men. In the present agenda, working class white men will play the combined role of being the object of fear for college educated white women and to drive fears of racial oppression among minorities so that they can evade the consequences of their prior dog whistle policies in the 1990s which cost them the 2016 election.
"An object cannot be defined by it's use , and , or , missuse." A rock is just a rock . If you use the rock to cause harm or loss. Then the "rock" rolls over and becomes a "weapon". Used properly an "firearm" remains" a firearm. Case solved.
A 12 year old cannot use rocks to murder an entire class of students, but a 12 year old firearms can do that. I am a big 2A guy, been supporting this channel for years. But having lived in several countries and seeing how things work abroad... i am ready to give up my 2a for a better future for the community. You guys should too, u dont need guns to have freedom.
@@caliginousmoira8565 Yes, but it is not as easy as what the Ramos guy did. He passed background checks, got his guns ala "good guys with guns" until he went nuts and killed all those kids...
My M-16 (M4 depending on the year) in boot camp was referred to each and every time as my “weapon”. So, no, a firearm is not “just a firearm” as you have posed. A firearm, per my boot camp sergeant, is always referred to as my weapon. Example: secure your weapon. Stow your weapon. “CLEAN YOUR WEAPONS”.
In 1974, terrorists took over the Netiv Meir Elementary School in Israel and murdered 22 children and 3 others with grenades and automatic weapons, which also injured 68 more people. This barbaric attack forced Israel to come up with a solution to prevent such a horrific event from ever happening again. So afterward the nation required its schools to possess a very robust security system, and that policy is still going strong today, which is why they have only had two other school attacks in 48 years, and in both cases, the bad guys were killed by armed teachers. As a law enforcement-trained security professional, I agree with the intelligent and effective plan Israel came up with because it incorporates a multi-layered approach to protecting schools, which is what every successful security system employs, instead of a single-minded approach toward protection, such as eliminating guns on campus, which has actually increased not reduced violence in America's schools. I propose that we truly value and thus protect our children as Israel does with well-trained armed guards, teachers, and bus drivers. Let's employ key cards, high-strength fences, limit and harden all entry checkpoints, install ballistic doors and windows, biometric scanners, metal detectors, individual communication devices, and a whole host of other time-tested methods for securing a building and its occupants.
We've seen how police react in these shooting situations. In parkland the resource officer ran out of the school. In Uvalde they just stood there for an hour. Former military would be better in my opinion. Many of them have actually seen combat before and they have far more training than police. There are plenty of people willing to stand guard at schools.
Except private security are not by law (in Florida at least) allowed to carry a firearm. They must observe and report. Armed police officers however may carry. We really just need cops with a vested interest. Ones that care about the people in the school. Send a sheriff out there who has two kids and a wife in the school and watch how fast a potential shooter gets sent to a quick dirt nap.
My 2nd Amendment right to bear arms is entirely my business and no one else's. Everyone can arm or disarm, to me it is all the same, I will continue to be armed. There could be a million dead and it has no bearing on my rights. A million people could be offended and it has no bearing on my right to say whatever I wish. Unalienable is cut and dry and debate is no strategy because there is nothing to discuss. It may not be today but they will come for them eventually because they will never be satisfied until they get them. Be vigilant and ready to take action when they do.
i am ready to give up my 2A for the betterment of the community, sad but neccessary. Having lived abroad in Europe and Asia for more than 12 years taught me kinda opened my eyes and heart.
As they said: the gun is not the issue. So your right to bear arms isn't about the type of gun you're allowed to carry, as long as you're allowed to carry a gun. So, anything that isn't a musket can comfortably be banned. A good guy with a musket can stop a bad guy with an AR-15. It is, after all, just a tool and totally irrelevant to the question.
@@FelonMusk2021 Not owning a firearm is giving up your 2A. That is your choice. However, the United States is a Constitutional Republic. If by community you mean country, and said country is the United States, the Constitution guarantees rights, one of them being the ownership of firearms and that means any firearm in any quantity. I will be an armed citizen of this sovereign nation. That is my choice. Possessing unalienable rights as an individual member of this country is empowering and giving your rights away is never necessary. If that's your choice, and ultimately it is, you're right, that is sad, but I have no obligation to follow suit.
@@whitescar2 Wrong. Shall not be infringed does not come with stipulations. Any firearm in any quantity with as much ammo as I can keep is exactly what the 2A guarantees including the ownership of artillery, flamethrowers, gatling guns, etc.
@@zerowykd Ah, so clearly the manner of weapon *does* matter after all. The hypocricy is revealed once again. Your right to bear arms is not infringed as long as you have a right to a firearm. It does not infringe upon your right to own a gun if I specify that the manner of operation is muzzle-loading. That was the standard when the constitution was written, and it did not infringe upon their rights in any way. Why would it be infringing on the 2nd Amendment? You still have the right to carry that weapon. Heck, I'd be fine with you taking it to so-called "gun free zones" and thus, it would increase your right to bear arms. There are restrictions, completely legal and constitutional, on the manner of firearms you're allowed to own. The most obvious being the "no modern machineguns" provision. That limitation has held up to constitutional scrutiny just fine, so obviously the manner of firing can be limited whilst still allowing people to freely own guns.
The shooting in Texas should show the world why we should have firearms all the time. The police were on site for 40 minutes to 1 hour for reasons to be debated later and still children were killed if one teacher or security officer could have ended it. We are our own fire line of defense.
There's about 131,000 public and private k-12 schools in America. If we assigned 1 school security officer each at a $40,000/yr salary, that's $5.24 billion US tax dollars per year.
Thanks for bringing up the fact that when you call 911, you are asking for a good guy with a gun to help you. Yes, he has a badge and training but many of us have training also. Both military or civilian training.
Just a comment, When I was in High School a number of schools had shooting teams, Students carried there rifles from there locker to the range every day! that's back when we were taught responsibility and to respect one another!!!
The huge majority of gun owners are rule followers, but there are people out there with so much hate in their life that they want to hurt others on their way out of this life. We do need to fund and implement mental health programs and policies that keep unstable people from getting control of guns. I also think that the minor/adult division in the law needs to be removed.
Maybe what we should do to stop school shootings is get two gun guys who agree on everything, who can’t effectively understand or articulate what the opposite side of the arguments, and have them post a video so that they can get hi-fives from thousands of other people who share their opinion. This was a great video on how to not prevent mass shootings.
To prevent future shootings inside the school, to provide fence around the school. all exits and entrances are provided with security guards. all incoming students are checked for illegal items. all outsiders are allowed only if it passed security protocol. Security guards are important to guard the school. Fence is a must for any property.
Still, these psychos are going to find a way, they will use snipers or kill from long range... But, they usually reveal their plans before doing It, and honestly, Thats the opportunity to kill the killer
I definitely agree with the points made in this video, yet, I will say that not all "good guys with guns" are responsible, fearless human beings. Many cops are cowards; just as many cops are bad apples, and this cannot be overstated. And once civilians with firearms are added that number grows even more. I agree that we need more security but that is not the end all be all. The supermarket with the shooting in Buffalo, had an armed guard, he was shot and killed. That was indeed a good guy with a gun, and a brave one at that. But a security presence does not neccecarily mean no loss of life. We still need to fight this issue at its source, what laws will work that don't infringe on the rights of normal law abiding citizens. Age requirements, looking for red flags in certain individuals, (such as clearly extremely racist or violent rhetoric, and animal abuse; keeping tabs on those individuals, the same way you keep tabs on suspected drug dealers or terrorists), and allowing parents to take legal responsibility if their weapon is used in a shooting. My only problem is that you only hear solutions from the left. For example, if mental health is the problem, why don't Republicans give federal money to mental health organizations, or help schools set up mental health check ins with kids? IMHO the gun community as a whole needs to have these conversations. Whether we like it or not, these are people in our community that carry out these acts; they are legal "law abiding" gun owners, right up until they pull that trigger. Because if we don't talk about ways to cut down on these things the Left will.
Allow willing adults in gun free zones to be armed. Increase physical security of schools and other soft targets. But these options are wholly unpalatable to people who are fine with kids being killed in exchange for banning guns. Republicans make many recommendations but they are loudly stomped out by Democrats yelling about doing something and not making schools into fortresses.
When I was in school, 40 + years ago, we took our own rifles and shotguns to school. Actual gun safety was taught back then, and not one school shooting. It makes me sad to where our country is now. However, logic would seem to dictate that if law-abiding gun owners were the real problem, there would be few, if any, anti gun people out there.
…it’s a cute refrain…. but also poorly thought out. Women not being allowed to vote, 3/5th compromise, prohibition…. the fact that we have a 2nd amendment at all (it wasn’t in the core constitution. Your appeal to authority is someone ironic given what I infer you intend to convey…
After Parkland and now Uvalde, I'm surprised that pro 2A people like yourself are actually still advocating for more School Resource Officers. SRO's don't stop these shootings and some cops (Uvalde PD) are completely willing to sit outside and allow a shooting to continue happening. We've seen time and time again that police do not have an obligation to protect life and they will happily refuse to protect life seeing as there are no consequences for them. Don't bother mentioning increasing funding for "better trained" cops, Uvalde PD takes ~40% of the towns budget and had done active shooter training prior to the shooting. A single entry building is a terrible idea, think about fires. How about each classroom has an emergency exit that can only be opened from the inside so that students are not trapped inside the school during a shooting or a fire.
they asked the biden admin if they were gonna make plans to harden our schools and they said no, they thought that was bad. they don't really care about kids safety, they just want gun control. the dead kids are just a means to an end for them. they could hire multiple veterans for security. have exit only doors, for all back and side exits. have a gun powder sniffing dog who barks, it doesn't even need to be a scary looking dog just one with a good nose. put a chain link fence around certain perimeters, you need a fence so a pervert/kidnappr cant get on the playground. you can harden schools without them feeling like a prison. but they wont because the dems need dead kids for powergrabs.
Seems like a lot of these point to NICS being a failure. People that aren’t supposed to be getting guns are getting them. No amount of legislation will change that. We should just put armed guards at schools and allow teachers to carry. This only “solves” the problem after the bad guy has walked in. The real issue is stopping the bad guy from doing it in the first place. We just need to talk to everyone and make sure they are ok. I’m sure that these peoples friends, teachers, parents, etc knew something was up with these people before they decide to do something terrible.
So your solution, is to try to fix people ? In AMERICA ? That doesn´t sound very capitalist to me, and that would cost tax money. Are you saying that we should go the socialist road, and actualy try to help people ? Impossible, but again, i live in EU, we try to rebeliate criminals and this costs money, money that you guys in the US don´t want to spend on criminals, i don´t have to worry about geting my ass shot at school in the EU at least.
Well I am a gun owner in Australia, prior to the self-loading rifles ban we had a number of mass shootings. The port Arthur incident caused that ban. Regulations got very tight, hand gun only for guards of money transport, sport shooters, police and military. Collectors can own guns, but have also very strict regulations. Those regulations effectively stopped mass shootings. Looking at all senseless mass shootings besides terrorism, seems always young in some cases older angry men with an axe to grind. Many nations have relatively high weapons ownership, however those get filtered and assessed. To me that a 18 year old can buy an AR without some form of assessment makes little sense.
In America you need a background check to own a rifle, but it is hard to have a record at 18. I wouldn't mind moving the age up to 21, but then they would need to move up the age to get drafted, join the military, and to vote for it to make sense to me.
Ya know...I'm a much different person than I used to be. I want to preface what I'm about to say with the fact that there was a time...when I was younger...and less experienced in life, less open minded, faster to jump to defend my core beliefs from people that are opposed to them. Slower to listen reasons once someone wanted to express their opposition to my beliefs. All that kind of changed when I had a profound experience. People have labeled them "near death experiences". It's an incorrect definition. What they should be called are soul form or untethered life experiences. This experience was extremely profound, and though so beautiful and full of awe and love that there are no words to describe it in a way that does it justice or gives the respect to it that it deserves, it was also so traumatic and shocking that I will never fully heal from it. What I learned about this subject is this: We are all born to this earth innocent, pure, defenseless, void of any conception of who or what we are, and more than anything, a SPONGE for knowledge and in desperate need of direction from others. We are 100% the responsibility of not just our parents, but every person our parents expose us to and every environment. The problem is that EVIL/DARKNESS/INDIFFERENCE...it exists. We cannot control whether or not other people allow that darkness into their heart. People don't realize that it's not like the movies where the force on earth that is evil and darkness at it's core doesn't appear to us as itself all the time. It has to appear to be the light so that it can perform it's sole purpose: Leading us away from our intended purpose and the meaning of this life, which to learn how to Love each other as we want to be loved, and to do it without expectations of personal gain and with unconditional forgiveness. To help and serve our fellow man and encourage others to do so. It's here to destroy us and cause pain and suffering and indifference in our hearts for each other. It's selfish, ruthless, narcissistic, vindictive, jealous, violent, immoral, and indifferent. As long as there is this unseen dark force, it's OUR DUTY to fight it. Some of us are better at it than others because of what we absorbed as we have progressed in life. The only way evil prevails is when good men just watch and do nothing. Firearms are 100% necessary to protect us from evil. They will also be used by evil in order to try and tear us apart. Evil doesn't play by rules, laws, or morals. The moment we let down our guard, it wins. The human race...especially in America and parts of Europe that are 1st world countries...has been absolutely ravaged by the darkness, and its done such a good job of appealing to their ego that they have completely surrendered to it and it now is in control of their lives. You see...it comes in that voice in your head that tells you it's OK to hurt others if it benefits you. It helps you justify it or make excuses or blame others. Every time we do something we know is wrong or hurt someone that is innocent or loves us, we let a little more in. It also loves company. The more souls it can lead astray the better, so when there's large groups of people with hate for other people in their heart and threatening or committing violence against people who simply have different beliefs, you know what's at work. I see 2 groups of people that are wanting to take away our right to defend ourselves from the evil in the hearts of men. The first is a group of citizens who have frankly lost any and all sense of what is moral, right, wrong, and just, and have never seen evil's true face because they weren't exposed to an environment where the threat of another person attacking you is a daily reality, and having a means to defend themselves is truly a life or death necessity, and the other group is the people who have the power to make laws and take away our freedom if we break them. That's a scary situation. We can't let the darkness win. Those of us that are still on the right side of what's right and wrong stand to lose everything to those who have blinded those who aren't and the blind themselves. We are at a very dangerous tipping point as a human race. Guns are simply tools. Laws have never stopped evil or the people it has worked itself into. This isn't just a battle for our freedom. It's a battle for our souls.
The shooter was stopped by, for all intents and purposes, an armed citizen while the police basically stood around, and the response the Left has is to try and make it HARDER for lawful gun owners to acquire and use firearms while stating those same firearms should be only for police and military. This is legitimate insanity UNLESS there's a higher motive to these legislative actions. I'm not going to say many politicians aren't factually insane, but it should be very clear at this point that it's not about keeping weapons out of the hands of criminals, they don't actually give a shit about stopping tragedies like this, it's all about control.
Why do I have to wait for someone to start shooting up the school to act? I’m glad someone finally put and end to it…civilian or otherwise…but why did the gunman have to get the gun in the gutsy place? The only argument I’m hearing on the right is that any attempt to stop a maniac from owning a gun is also an attempt to stop lawful ownership. I’m tired of this slippery slope bullshit argument. The weapon the shooter used was legally acquired in all four of the latest mass shootings. It’s a complete red herring whether or not a good guy with a gun is around to stop this! It shouldn’t happen in the first place! How many people need to die before a good guy with a gun stops the shooter for your value system to make sense?
It’s about time attention was brought to these inanimate killers. Now that we recognize inanimate objects as having free will to kill thousands, we have precedent to blame other inanimate objects, like cars.
One way the Uvalde school shooting could have been prevented or stopped is if the police who responded were brave enough to save lives instead of waiting outside the hallway.
As far as I'm aware the killings were over by the time the cops got there, but yes the cops should have immediately made entry. What would have prevented this latest massacre was the ability of an idiot to buy assault rifles.
@@CreachterZ haven't seen anything with such specific information anywhere but I'd imagine most were already dead seeing as they were shot with a high velocity rifle and they couldn't identify some of the bodies and needed dna which would assume they were head shots
UK citizen here. The slippery slope of banning weapons and it doing absolutely nothing reigns true. We in the UK have effectively little in the way of legal firearms, a minuscule firearm culture and many forms of melee weapons are also banned. Despite this laws, we have a staggering amount of knife crime (including the use of machetes) and many rampages in recent times were done using vehicles such as vans, lorries and other heavy good vehicles and like the US, the majority of gun crime is committed using illegally obtained firearms via black markets but it's only the exceptions that used firearms obtained by legal methods used in spree killings that ever make the news and it's only in those exceptional circumstances that suddenly the government is more than eager to make weapon restrictions ever tighter. In short, the laws do nothing but punish the law-abiding citizen and as you said in the discussion, evil people will find a way to commit their evil acts. Must be said that I was genuinely surprised that knives are more prevalent in US crime than rifles which just tells me further than restriction on firearms does nothing to the crime levels: see above.
So sad that most people on the left will never take the time to watch this with an open mind and see that it all makes sense. Great video gentlemen. I shared it on my social media accounts to help spread the word.
…left leaning fellow, firearms history fan…and disgusted American. Two men agreeing on everything and putting out the same suggestions that were floated after columbine…did not impress.
@@H4x0rNetSaber There were no Columbines happening before Bidens gun free school zones. 500 plus kids dead now bud. You think guns are the problem? I live in the most gun friendly state in the country. No gun free zones and yet we are the safest state in the country year after year. Kids here can still take guns to school with consent, Yet no school shootings.. How's Chicago, NY and LA doing tho? Lol
When seconds count, the Uvalde Police Department waited an hour and 17 minutes just outside the classroom where the murderer was slaughtering children in. Meanwhile, heavily armed police officers outside the school were physically subduing parents for trying to save their children who they could hear screaming, the job these officers cowardly refused to do.
YES !!
Not sure how they can sleep at night. I hope those losers are haunted by the screams of those children every night. They need to resign and apologize to the families.
Not only did they refuse to save the childeren ,they helped the killer by not allowing anyone to intervene, who's minions are these officers,and who's agenda are they following.All the times I have turned around to make sure an officer is safe while having a conflict,why?
Those officers (say that loosely) need to be out of a job and on their way to a federal prison.
Agreed!!!!!!!
Excellent discussion!!
How’s SLAMFIRE Sir ?
No, it wasn't. More crying by the ignorant "I took an oath" crowd who are completely ignorant about the document they took an oath to. Which is why they don't touch on the fact that the federal government doesn't have the authority to pass or execute national sweeping laws. These two like the masses are ignorant cowards who support the very things they claim to be against.
@@leonardjanda6181 He's doing fine. Thanks.
Must keep having this discussion. Because they will never stop with the rhetoric until they get what they want.
Love your channel but I’ll disagree with your comment. I think there need to be a ban of weapons for kids until 21 if they can’t drink they sure as hell shouldn’t be allowed to buy weapons. I agree teachers should carry if they want but I disagree about more police in our schools. I’ll add I do agree with teaching kids gun safety.
I'm surprised that nobody ever references the Czech Republic as an example of how a country can have looser gun laws but lower crime rates. Even with licensing and registration laws, it is much easier to obtain a firearm there than in most first world countries (excluding the U.S.) and their gun laws have continually loosened over the past three decades. They allow civilian ownership of AR-15s and other semi-auto rifles (including "SBRs"), and they allow everyday citizens to conceal carry firearms in similar fashion to many "shall issue" states in the United States, but on a nationwide basis rather than on a state to state basis. Recently, they even wrote an almost Second-like Amendment to their constitution.
Well, here I am :D :D Proudly owner of AK, UZI (open bolt!), M590, SW 5903, 92FS, SW 10, and some old school CZs...
I do CCW for about 10 years now, usually most recently PM Makarov/ SW5903 with back-up CZ45.
Now seriously: You sum us up pretty well and only what I can add to the topic is- firearms are not the problem, public health IS. If the society is sick, no matter what is or isn´t allowed (I hate this word), people will act more agressively. Look at the china- they don´t have school shootings but they have a lot of knive- hammer- machete- you-name-it attacks pretty often.
There are far less tribal savages in Czech republic. That makes a difference in overall crime.
@@cappazone1807 Czechs and other Europeans probably do not shoot each other on street corners every day like they do in the US.
@@stancz-5490 not to mention the ethnic cleansing and forced labor camps.
Switzerland? Shooting is a great community event there. There's a bit more hassle in owning a firearm there, but not much.
We had a firearm safety class in my school! I was in first grade in Baytown Texas. The whole school was brought to an auditorium they brought out a bunch of guns and taught us gun safety. The 1970s God I miss it those were the days.
Or address the problems that USA with health and education, especially the first. And also, only allow the sale of firearms in places specialized in that type of thing with people licensed to sell them; that would help a lot to the problem that USA has.
@@ramonandrajo6348 how do you think guns are sold? Licensed Dealers.
@@alanmeyers3957 Read everything I put in my comment; not just a part.
Speaking of exposing kids to firearm safety in schools, not only did that happen when I grew up in the 1960s, they also warned us about the dangers of picking up blasting caps. Didn't realize that was much of a problem bac, then, but I guess enough kids had fingers/hands blown off where they needed to do something..
Armament Manufacturers and Sales need to be HEAVILY regulated. I hold them solely responsible for our drug problem, gang violence and deaths of service members. Bad guys find ways to get guns but they sure as hell don't mass produce em. In the end i don't mind paying a high price to keep my guns but i don't want negligent morons with guns around me.
I agree that thawed should be classes on gun safety but there should also be a complete deregulation of all firearms because any and all laws that prohibit the use purchase or sale of any weapon of only kind exempt wmd, chem, and bio weapons is an infringement of the second amendment “ A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” and while there are arguments that it is only for a militia. Every single American citizen is that milita tsp that we do not and never have to put up with unjust tyranny like the British rule of old or the nazis and communists that would take everything away from us today even as we watch and listen they strive to bring fascism to the forfront so that their reign of terror can be complete
This is my stance. If YOU REALLY care more about CHILDRENS LIVES than you do about your gun control and subverting the constitution? You will CONSIDER ALL OPTIONS.
I will not discuss gun control until after THIS.
IT IS THE ANSWER TO MASS SHOOTINGS.
The subversives of the constitution. Want more GOVERNMENT LAW.
So let's point at it and show the folly of this argument.
" law by design exists to define criminal behavior NOT STOP IT.
Criminal justice and Sentencing is supposed to be the deterrent. If there is a proliferation of a particular crime? Say mass shootings it is the FAULT OF GOVERNMENT PROSECUTORS AND JUDGES.
for example anyone reading this, think to yourself and contemplate the answer.
Of all the mass shooters captured, what was the disposition of their cases, what was the punishment, did it fit the crime and did it send a message of deterrent? THE GOVERNMENTS PUNISHMENT FOR CRIME IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE DETERRENT. YET we don't even know what the punishments were.
So if we don't know? The next mass shooter doesn't know either.
We have this problem because NOBODY IS DISSUADED FOR FEAR OF THE PUNISHMENT.
Some of these guys are fine with dying going out in a attention grabbing blaze of glory, in their minds.
What would happen if there was a very PUBLIC PAINFUL CORPORAL PUNISHMENT?
To those who would say cruel and unusual punishment. I would say yes the children in U vald e
Were cruelly and unusually murdered. Think about the visuals of elementary children at that scene...............
Now tell me again about the punishment befitting a crime like that . How is it cruel and unusual?
The point is government criminal justice punishment is supposed to be the deterrent. YET HERE WE ARE! How can people ask why does this happen? It is glaringly obvious. Government Criminal justice is not justice nor a deterrent."
With governments failure so obvious. I will stick to my own guns and be my own first responder".The only thing that needs to be done to STOP MASS SHOOTERS?
IS: To get your fricken eyes off the law abiding, the firearm and focus on the THOSE SHOOTERS.
!THE PERPETRATORS!
It is time to bring swift and painful corporal punishment back as a DETERRENT. IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO?
YOU PLACE THE SHOOTER ABOVE THE LIVES OF INCENT CHILDREN SLAUGHTERED PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE.
Awesome morality you have. SMH If you are not willing to do this? You digust me I am not willing to listen to you. I sure am not willing to go ANY FARTHER ON MY, NOT GUILTY, CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS FOR YOUR WARPED SENSE OF MORLITY.
How does a gun safety course teach a kid to survive a school shooting…? Wouldn’t that…at MOST just keep the shooter a better grip on what to do? Are we putting guns in their hands to fight back now?
We had hunters ed/firearm safety in school as recently as the late 90's. It was required in Indiana
Brandon Herrera went down there in Houston and showed how those people had a very real thought process problem.
I saw that, made me laugh.
In the same way that left-wing media showcased the complete nutjob outliers of Trump supporters, I have hard time believing that the vast majority in the pro-gun control movement, act like those showcased in Brandon's video. It just adds to the massive division that already exists.
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ManBearPig Have u ever spoken with these people? the anti gunners really know NOTHING about guns or what laws already exist. Everyday you can find new twitter posts complaining about how easy it is for criminals to buy "automatic" rifles or "assault rifles" bc there aren't background checks....they think 5.56 is the most devastating round ever invented and prefer gun addicts stick with "safer" and "less lethal" 12 gauge shotguns. They think semi auto means warp speed super death mode while saying "guns the police carry are more reasonable"...They are demanding things they don't understand at all, while hysterically calling you a heartless murderer and spitting on you. They "joke" about k1llign NRA members and conservatives bc its not a joke. they want you dead.
@@AdamRitchie2 Yes I have, I have family members and friends who are anti-gun, and they're not as clueless as the loud mouths you see on Brandon's video. Most the people I know who are anti-gun, don't want a total ban on guns or semi-auto rifles, but they want laws that make it more difficult for people like the Uvalde shooter to get their hands on them in the first place.
I'm sick and tired of the extreme cases always being put on display, we've seen it time and time again over the last few years, because they grab headlines. But the US is a country of 330 million people, if we were all extreme left-wingers or right-wingers, it would never work. So no, I'm 99.9% certain that this is not a black and white issue for most people.
@@G33KSPALACEdotCOM But there are plenty of people who want to ban rifles and even all guns. And your family members are helping them achieve that agenda one step at a time. They want 'more' gun control laws that dont work and create 'more' victims instead of allowing good people to carry in "gun free zones" like MAC discussed in this video. Are you even pro liberty? U seem kinda lost tbh. And yeah it IS a black and white issue for Americans who actually value and understand the 2nd Amendment.
30 people in Kyoto Animations Japan killed by a guy with gasoline bombs. Happened a few years ago, but only mentioned in a few circles in the US. Why? Nothing to do with guns.
Most of the African countries have child soldiers who are killing people everyday ..but hey America has a Gun problem 😳😳🙃🙃😌😌
Wasn't there also an incident involving an AR-style rifle over there? I love Japan, but they have some of the strictest firearm laws on the planet - yet it won't stop Yakuza or other criminal organizations from acquiring them and distributing them.
Also, last time I visited, there was a person who plowed through crowds of people with a van before hopping out and proceeding to stab them left and right. It ain't the tools - it's the people.
People hell-bent on killing others are going to find a way.
Sagamihara stabbings in Japan... 19 dead, 26 injured. One guy with a knife. Japan's gun laws did nothing to stop it.
@@tortol4847 Thank you for the clarification.
It's a shit world and people need to realize that just because we made all these technological and societal advancements, it doesn't change a damn thing about the rules of nature. Nothing can stop the evil in this world other than equal or greater force.
The Bow & Arrow psycho was in Norway. To female cops armed with both MP5 and HK P30 each, fled the scene when the killing started. Unarmed civillians stopped the killer.
Greetings from Norway btw.
The weird thing was that guy's primary murder weapon was actually a knife and used the bow mainly for suppressive fire to pin down the police.
@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 Yes thats right. I think he hit an off duty cop inthe back with the bow & arrow. Fortunately the cop survived. The perpetrator claimed he did the killing in the name of Ji%ad. But the authorities denounced that by claiming he was just insane. Go figure.
@@mr.nobody6457 It could be a case of politically correct denialism, but in my country Australia back in 2014, we had a guy who did a siege in a cafe in Sydney and attempted to do a mass shooting of his hostages (most of which barely escaped his rapid fire), he was an Iranian who claimed to have done it in the name of Islam, but the problem with this claim was that he was also involved in Satanic witchcraft which is not compatible with being a muslim (he also lied about being a rogue secret agent to get into the country as an asylum seeker), so it could be possible that a lot of people who do attacks like this are simply mad, I think for a Scandinavian to do it is sign of insanity for sure.
I think the increase in shooters are just symptoms of a sick society. Lost a lot of moral compass in America and kids are being taught to despise others and hate themselves, too soft and can’t deal with problems.
nooooooooooooooooooooooo, they are the result of gun control which disarms citizens making them susceptible to violent attacks, get a clue.🤡 society has always been sick and always will be, carrying guns protects us period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mass shooting is a cultural meme now and it wasn't before. If you hate everyone in society including your own family and yourself, corporate media has shown time and time again that perpetrating a mass shooting is an easy way to make everyone mad on your way out. Mass shooters are fundamentally nothing more than trolls and giving them negative attention is exactly what drives them.
This is the answer.
Correct. And thus it can’t be addressed through political means
School is sick place that thrives on abandonment, bullying, conformity, and dumbing-down. ABCDD
Did Tim just say that Assault Rifle (2:50) is a made-up term? "Assault Weapon" is the made-up term, Assault Rifle is a term used by militaries around the world, where even the US military acknowledges this term:
*_“Assault rifles are short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachinegun and rifle cartridges. Assault rifles have mild recoil characteristics and, because of this, are capable of delivering effective full-automatic fire at ranges up to 300 meters."_*
_- Document FSTC-CW-07-03-70 - US Army Small Arms Identification and Operations Guide, pg 67 para 68_
The assault rifle term used comes from the Sturmgewehr44 meaning literally assault rifle. “ full auto “
Full auto is a fantasy for normal people...and a huge waste of ammo...3 round burst would be handy though
@@Rumpleskin IMHO 3 round burst is the most useless thing ever invented...
@@BloPsy__ ok gi joe...I like it but you do you boo
The Assault Rifle was named by A. Hitler who was a leading Nazi... So those who put Assault Rifles in the headlines may be Nazis... tjl
One of the main issues with this possible gun ban is how undereducated people are on gun rights, simply because you're not allowed to talk about them in schools unless it's a political debate. People then become adults, go to these protests in the big cities, unaware of how easy it is to be a responsible gun owner.
Perhaps if people in the US cared about people's mental health, as well as health in general; those mass shootings would be less frequent.
@@ramonandrajo6348 the US on the whole spends FAR more on mental health than any other time in our country’s history. Clearly meaning we care about mental health. Just doesn’t work on truly crazy people bent on killing.
Not sure if anyone has a problem with how easy it is to be a responsible gun owner. But rather how easy it is to be an unresposible gun owner.
That would require more government interaction and you can bet your bottom dollar these fine gentlemen would never vote for any politician that would raise taxes to pay for more psychological services. Especially when a fraction of said money would inevitably go to helping teens with gender dysphoria.
@@whitescar2 actually, the vast majority (well over 99%) of gun owners are law abiding good responsible gun owners. Trust me on this….YOU WOULD KNOW IT IF THAT WERE NOT TRUE!!! Lol
I can't help but smile when it comes to the NRA meeting, Brandon Herrera's video was hilarious, don't make the same mistake we did, don't give up your guns, from Sweden.
Sweden is my favorite place to be when I'm away from home. I hope your government stops giving you guys a bend over and you start to get your country back.
When did Sweden "give up their guns" ? I have a friend in Halmstead who is a high school teacher. I visted him while working in Oslo a year ago, He's got about 8 hunting rifles including an FN-FNC and a nice Benelli .12g. AND yes, he has pistols; Browning HP MkIII, HKP7 in .380, and a Walther P99. So when exactly did Swedes gtive up their guns, or is my friend leading a secret life as a Swedish firearms offedner.
@@maxzorin9425 So, do tell me, what did he go through to own all those firearms? and what is the restrictions?
@@lacko90 If you are from Sweden, shouldn't you know the process? Lol, sounds like this teacher went through the process just fine. If the police rejected you application for firearms, makes me wonder about you lol.
@@lacko90 okay? So then your point is even more dumb. The guy is able to own those firearms with restrictions, congrats on making my point.
none of this matters, its all about an agenda. they could not give a rip about saving lives and safety...
Exactly
YES, exactly. They don't want the problem solved. They want the shootings to keep happening so they can use them politically to drive the anti-gun BS. This is why they refuse to actually protect the schools, flat out refuse. But HEY, they're all safe behind THEIR detail of armed guards!
I’m glad we have you here to speak for everyone lol
You guys are all special boys, i am live in europe, we don´t have mass shoothings like you guys, and its been more than 20 years since columbine, and nothing changed.
Keep doing what you guys do, keep the body count higher and higher.
what this is really about is they can't talk about the economy and gas prices so they need a policy to run on for the midterms.
MAC, I appreciate you consistently advocating and having a dialogue about this. I feel that many pew YT channels avoid the conversation fearing a loss of revenue.
I think he avoided the core of his point. Uvalde schools pays for armed police.
The officer just wasn’t on duty.
According to the FBI, in 2021, California had the most active shooter incidents, which is the most gun-restrictive state in the union. In 17 of the 61 incidents, law enforcement “engaged the shooter,” while there were 6 incidents where citizens either “engaged” the attacker or where “citizen involvement impacted the engagement.” In other words, it took a "Good Guy With a Gun" to stop a criminal that was misusing a firearm.
They also have 6-8 times the average state population…so per person that’s far less… but good effort trying to distort that statistic.
Or address the problems that USA with health and education, especially the first. And also, only allow the sale of firearms in places specialized in that type of thing with people licensed to sell them; that would help a lot to the problem that USA has.
They don’t actually want to stop them though. They simply want to use them to further a political agenda. They could care less about the actual victims of these murders.
Much like the climate change thing, no one ever proposes actual solutions, because the climate change people are overwhelmingly socialists and see it as a means to advance redistributionist economic policies.
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Exactly. It was Kennedy in the 60's along with the ACLU that stopped our ability to prevent psychos from causing mass murder. The government WANTS this and they will never go back.
i believe its even more insidious than that , seems like the frequency of "mass shootings" goes up when democrats are way down in the polls when an election is close .
True.
Standing guard at my children's' schools would be more meaningful service than the 10 years I spent in the Army. And I guarantee there's a ton of vets that feel the same. I am loving these square table discussion videos. Great job guys.
10x better than 60 scared police officers standing by outside of a classroom with no plan in sight 🤦🏻♂️😰😢😢😢😢
I did 16 years with the Marines. The only way I'd stand watch is if we'd be allowed ) as we were taught) to handle a situation.
No quarter.
@@thefrogking481 amen man. I've done security work and those jobs are a joke. Observe and report is it. That will not be the case if working at a school. Like you said, no quarter
How about you spend that time actually trying to solve the problem and help out the people with mental illness (because it's obvious all the mass shooters are mentality ill) and prevent them from getting guns in the first place. Then you wouldn't have to turn your school's into prisons and let the mass shooters still exist and plan around your defenses.
@@thefrogking481 if you give “no quarter” to a suspect expect to spend a few decades locked up. I’ve been a police officer for over 28 years. I can tell you that will NOT work for you here in civilian days.
Having lived in London for 2 years, I can honestly say any gun control is just feel good legislation with no impact on those who would carry out evil deeds. Instead of guns, criminals used knives and vehicles to hurt people while I was in London. Want to buy some new cutlery? I had to show my ID to buy a steak knife because gangs would use those knives to commit crimes. Want to have a folding pocket knife that locks back, sorry, those are illegal in London. You can have one that doesn't lock back, which makes no sense. We can never permit any such bans in the US. Thank god for the 2nd Amendment.
Just asking, what do you think would have happened if these guys had guns instead of knives?
Lot harder to kill 23 people with a knife
Our own government has its dirty hands in all of this
These are psyops by the FBI. Nothing is as it appears.
@@NotDumbassable
What if they had a homemade IED?
What if they had a car bomb?
What if they had a biological agent?
What if they immolated their victims?
What if they just permanently disfigured their victim with acid?
@@NotDumbassable Just asking, what if bad guys can't be bad guys?
If such a ban is passed I strongly suspect that it will quickly end up in the Supreme Court docket. The existing SCOTUS precedent in Marbury v Madison says that such a law would be invalid even before it gets passed. All laws repugnant to the Constitution are void.
Murdock v Pennsylvania has already determined that the state cannot convert a Right into a Privilege and require a license for it.
US v Miller defined weapons protected by the 2nd amendment as all that are 'of use to the militia’, and the militia is described as all citizens capable of bearing arms. IE, the entire armed population.
I think it was the Heller case that further noted that the 2nd amendment protects arms in common use. And, according to the BATFE, the AR-15 pattern rifle is the most popular rifle, currently. Heller deviates from the Founders somewhat though. Heller limited the “in common use” to lawful purposes, whereas the Founders spoke in terms of “in common use” by the military.
This was mainly so that armed civilians that showed up to help the military could be resupplied with ammunition, from the government supplies, that would function in the Militia weapons.
Rep. Mondaire Jones (D-NY) recently said the following about this latest push:
"You will not stop us from passing [gun control]. If the filibuster obstructs us, we will abolish it. If the Supreme Court objects, we will expand. We will not rest until we've taken weapons of war out of our communities."
These people are willing to burn all institutions to the ground.
I would hate to rely on the Supreme Court because Democrats are trying to destroy that as well. And if Roe v. Wade does get overturned (as it should) you know they will use that as an excuse to be able to try and go back and undo anything they can.
@@CBR600RR05
I can't argue against your point on that. It would be great if SCOTUS came back with a decision on the New York Rifle and Pistol case with a reminder that not only can NY not arbitrarily deny a permit, but that existing SCOTUS precedent prohibited the permit requirements to begin with.
@Kev Campbell
It would seem like "they" are trying every manipulation to actually spark the next Lexington and Concord.
@Kev Campbell And *such* phrases ("a falsely installed regime") shows how you don't have the slightest bit of respect for the rule of law, yet crying me a river about gun laws. Laws don't work in a "pick and choose" fashion. Pathetic.
I live in Romania, there's no de facto gun ban in place, but guns are regulated and you have to pass certain checks when applying for a permit, and getting a gun. We have almost 0 gun crime, and crime is low in general. I think it's down to culture.
@Kev Campbell there's no political polarization in favor or against gun ownership in most European countries. In fact we did have full communism for about 45 years, and the laws were actually tightened a bit by the democratic government at some point.
@Kev Campbell you're still far from it. Comparing even the ineffective government you have there with totalitarian regimes only demeans the tens of millions of victims they left behind.
MAC, as a licensed conceal carrier for nearly 8 years and also being a public high school teacher for over 20 years, I would be comfortable carrying in my work environment if it were legal to do so. I appreciate your support for those of us wishing to protect the lives of our students and ourselves.
Perhaps if people in the US cared about people's mental health, as well as health in general; those mass shootings would be less frequent.
We need more teachers who are in favor of doing exactly what you are talking about. Teachers are a great way to harden the school and provide protection of our children. I would like to see this implementated asap. Thank you for your help in bringing this type of behavior into a end.
@@ramonandrajo6348 You are right we need to address mental health issues. If we were smart we would bring back prayer and God in schools. This is what happened that allowed this to start happening. When I was a kid I would bring my guns to school and there was never a school shooting. We need to let people with concealed weapons permits to carry in the schools of our nation.
@@jsharp1776 Eh, no.
Carry anyway. Legal or not. YOUR STUDENTS NEED YOU TO!!!!!!
You hit the nail on the head - get rid of "gun-free zones". The more hardened target will always be better able to resist violent confrontation.
We don't need to arm anyone. Simply let people be able to defend themselves.
If it’s going to be gun free zone, they have to do more than put up a sign. Install metal detectors check points etc.
You can debate the necessity of schools being gun free zones or lawful concealed carry zones, but it has to be one ore the other.
Putting a gun free zone sign up is just an invitation to an evil person he’ll bent on infamy.
So simple.
@@basketofdeplorables4253 wrong, gun free zones are a target.
The Navy Base where that mass shooter went a few years back was a hardened target with gate guards holding full autos. He killed several so hardening doesn’t work well either.
Last night, a school bus full of 4th graders was struck with a car by a drunk driver, killing 19. The fire department refused to go to help the kids in the burning wreck, holding back bystanders due to fear of a gas explosion. In support of this tragedy, we will be introducing legislation to ban the private ownership and a mandatory buyback of all SUV vehicles. A SUV is defined as a passenger vehicle that can hold more than 2 passengers, has off road capability, and has at least 4 doors.
It is sensible motor vehicle controls aimed at saving the lives of children. Noone needs such a large and powerful vehicle to go to the grocery store. Think of the police, there could be a bunch of violent gang bangers in there that could over power an officer during a traffic stop.
Excellent way to lampoon the idiocy of gun control.
This is satire, but just you wait. It will become true soon enough. Probably for environmental reasons, but you know, close enough.
As funny and as asinine as this is, it's EXACTLY just how stupid ass, power hungry politicians and anti-gunners think and treat firearms. Pathetic. Great post!
Well played there... your Satire skill has increased
The shooters of Columbine (18, 17 acquired through friends who acquired legally but were under 25), Aurora (24 legally acquired), Virginia Tech (23 legally acquired), Sandy Hook (18 used parents' guns), Parkland (19 legally acquired), Buffalo (19 legally acquired), and Uvalde (18 legally acquired).
Copies of this video should be sent to all members of our governing bodies as well as all teachers, principals and superintendents in all our school systems. You guys are solid!
None of this matters, it’s all about banning the guns.
Perhaps if people in the US cared about people's mental health, as well as health in general; those mass shootings would be less frequent.
It’s all about control
they asked the biden admin if they were gonna make plans to harden our schools and they said no, they thought that was bad. they don't really care about kids safety, they just want gun control. the dead kids are just a means to an end for them.
they could hire multiple veterans for security. have exit only doors, for all back and side exits. have a gun powder sniffing dog who barks, it doesn't even need to be a scary looking dog just one with a good nose. put a chain link fence around certain perimeters, you need a fence so a pervert/kidnappr cant get on the playground. you can harden schools without them feeling like a prison. but they wont because the dems need dead kids for powergrabs.
@@ramonandrajo6348 You dont get it. Even if your perfect healthcare system existed and there was zero mental illness in America, the alphabet agencies would fabricate these shootings in order to achieve the desired agenda which is the eventual disarming of civilians. They are literally paid to run ops like these every day in foreign countries. Why wouldn't they do it here? The goal is ultimate control.
Yup. I've been debating guns on FB with a friend and he finally admitted he just wanted them 100% banned and he was lying about just wanting marginally more gun control. Dems are all about lying and manipulation. Dishonest people. (I say this as a libertarian.)
Yes, the average policemen definitely aren’t as tough or committed as combat arms veterans
Yes. Create jobs for vets in a field they know very well. So much money wasted for other countries and nonsense that does not affect US citizens.
@@ANHON888 All citizens should have the right restored to defend themselves anywhere.
Or address the problems that USA with health and education, especially the first. And also, only allow the sale of firearms in places specialized in that type of thing with people licensed to sell them; that would help a lot to the problem that USA has.
I very much appreciate you guys having this round table discussion. Tim, you are always great in front of the camera. Jason, you are very articulate and I really appreciate your perspective. You guys make a great team.
Yes, I thought the same. Having one or more assigned SRO to each school will help to deter active shooting. Trained armed school personnel will be force multiplier. Getting rid of gun free zones.
The problem is they have no legal duty to protect others. Which is why it shouldn't be a crime for a faculty member to shoot a mass shooter.
JFC.. tell me you've never met an SRO without telling me you've never met an SRO.
Or address the problems that USA with health and education, especially the first. And also, only allow the sale of firearms in places specialized in that type of thing with people licensed to sell them; that would help a lot to the problem that USA has.
@@ramonandrajo6348 I agree that healthcare should be less expensive. But we shouldn't be required to pay for the healthcare of others. And it isn't illegal to sell a firearm to someone who you know isn't a criminal (nor should it be).
@@brettdavison3870 yes mental health has been an issue. Problem is records like that is private and would violate privacy confidentiality, the Second Amendment is this country's God given rights...gun control of any measure is a violating that right. The only we could do that wouldn't violate any of the two would be to increase security at the school. Tighter access control. Armed presence.
I really appreciate all you do for the Second Amendment. It would be great if you could post sources for studies mentioned. I often point out videos like these to friends with differing opinions and if there are links to sources they can click on it makes the point stronger because they can read it for themselves. Again, thank you!
If you want to see a really good one check out: Do studies show that gun control works? By reason tv. It's on UA-cam.
People use guns to murder children in schools.
A round table is not 2+ people sitting around, patting each other on the back for views they knew they shared before they sat down - Fox News and MSNBC has that looked after.
You want a round table? Then get intelligent people with different perspectives and have an honest and open debate (with real time fact checking from agreed sources.
What's interesting to me as a nosy foreigner whose opinion doesn't count (🇭🇲) is how easily military ordinance is accepted in American civilian life. Most countries are built on the concept of keeping the military a totally separate entity from the rest of civil space but the US is founded on the idea of making people's civil defense their own responsibility; in that context the civilian ownership of military grade weapons is acceptable and actually expected as part of their civil duty. That makes sense to me. Nice to hear a sensible conversation about this, gentlemen.
Good format, too, works for me.
By that logic, we should be allowed to own WMDs. After all, how else are we supposed to fight back the corrupt government when they start nuking us?
i don't have any military ordinance... i don't know anyone who does....
Americans have always had a fetish for police and military. It's nauseating. The whole 1776 fetish plays into it.
Look up the 1033 Program. That's just one of the reasons why US police are militarized.
Elementary school, DARE officers explained dangers of drugs, and I'm pretty sure (it's been over 20 years now) they explained guns. Very basic like "don't touch; get an adult", but there was something. For reference, I'm 30 and that was Akron Ohio, Seiberling elementary school.
I Am One of Many VETS That Would Gladly Donate My Time To Defend The Schools! Pay for My Own Required Training and Gear/ Uniforms To Protect The Innocent!
The whole “stop making them famous” thing worked for hostage situations, but will not work for shootings because we will always make a big deal out of the dead. It is a human thing. Most remember Gettysburg not the generals who fought there, they would still want to be the general there though right?
@@MushroomKing001 Well if the media doesn’t talk about it, then it won’t be a big deal. People only know what the media chooses to show them.
@@daviddundrea3424 That's not true and we can look to China as an example. They had a lot of mass arson and knife stabbings (before they went crazy with COVID and now just locked everyone in their homes) and the government-controlled media always censored the perpetrators' names and pictures.
It made absolutely zero difference in stopping copycat crimes. It does not matter whether the killers think they'll become famous or not, they're going to commit their atrocities anyway.
I own guns. I’m not into shooting sports, I’m not into hunting. I have them for one purpose. Self protection and to fight government tyranny. Any effort to ban guns is tyranny in my eyes. And tyranny isn’t tolerated.
Or address the problems that USA with health and education, especially the first. And also, only allow the sale of firearms in places specialized in that type of thing with people licensed to sell them; that would help a lot to the problem that USA has.
Yes. Murdering children in schools is okay.
This video is spot on. We should be securing our schools instead of banning guns. Criminals ignore laws, passing more laws is senseless and accomplishes nothing. Well trained and armed school security shooting a bad guy dead would protect our children, not silly gun laws.
The Netflix Ricky Gervais special basically highlights how we celebrate mental illness now instead of identifying it and trying to help these people. I mean in the 50's, tons of things were called mental illness that weren't, but today things have gone way too far in the opposite direction. Now, we as a society are paying the price for it.
Mental illness such as the added stress of costs for everything being double to triple in price and all the hate and division pushed by politicians and media?
I enjoy having Jason out in front of the camera and hearing his opinions and input! Really digging the round table talks
round table?
@@deepdawgie did you watch the video? It’s actually a square table but Mack stated everyone is calling these round table talks
I had a debate with a friend of mine. She said wants to end these things, and was trying to come up with a solution. I told her exactly what you are talking about; make schools a hard target.
It wont help to harden schools. Mass shootings occur everywhere. Grocery stores, theaters ,colleges, post offices, playgrounds, parks, workplaces. Armed guards have not helped. It’s interesting that this site advocates military arms in its logo. Waiting periods of several days would probably help a bunch. The fact that all mass shooters have bought their guns legally is a massive problem. Law abiding gun owners need to stand up for gun regulation to cut gun violence. A waiting period would reduce suicides, and more mass shootings are themselves suicides by cop. So waiting period of ten days would be essential to curbing impulse buying. Once the gun is purchased it’s almost impossible to stop a mass shooter. I also believe anyone who buys a gun should be required to have in person class training and field training and “active shooter drills” to show gun owners what indeed is possible and not possible where guns are concerned. The myth of gun ownership is that guns make us safer. For the most part they do not. You cannot react quickly enough to respond to an active shooter unless you know ahead of time where one will be. Armed guards have failed in every school shooting; good guys with guns come running into situations and are either shooting innocent bystanders or lot getting shot by police as they confuse the situation. Waiting periods I think are the place to start with substantial in person training in how to use a gun safety and legally.
@@skylark1250 if people would just carry a handgun such as a .38 they could easiy take out a mass shooter while they're distracted.
@@skylark1250 not sure how hardening schools won't help? Will it be 100% effective? No. But beats a "gun free zone" sign. I think allowing faculty to carry is a good step. And according to the FBI, last year 6 civilians stop mass shootings with firemarms, and 14 were stopped by law enforcement.
I agree that firearms training is extremely important. But I can't support making it mandatory for ownership. That takes it from being a right to a privilege that can be taken away if you don't jump through the right hoops. Call me cynical but that would just be exploited to make gun ownership harder and hard.
@@skylark1250 94% of mass shootings occur in gun free zones.
@@andrewdaw6050 You cannot “harden” schools. It won’t do any good. Make schools look like prisons? We have lost our freedom because of guns. And mass shootings should not be something we have to accept so you can have the right to own a gun. And if you don’t take the in person safety training and legal instructions as to what you can and cannot do with a gun, then you should not be allowed to own one. You have to take a test to drive a car. You must pass a course in gun use. Including mass shooter training. Guns won’t save you. We should be the safest country on earth. We are not. And no hardening of schools will work. You still have to buy groceries, visit hospitals (my sister witnessed the murder of a fellow nurse at work), post offices,theaters, colleges, work places, offices, etc. what are you going to do? Put armed guards everywhere? None have ever stopped a shooter. The number one cause of death for children and teens is guns. Armed citizens have never stopped a mass murder. The Gabby Gifford shooting perfectly illustrated the problem. A good guy with a gun cane running out of the grocery store and into the parking lot. He was going to shoot an innocent bystander because he thought that person was the shooter. The crowd yelled at him to stop. Then the police started shooting at him because they thought HE was the shooter. Civilians may end a mass shooting but they don’t stop it before the killings have happened. Guns don’t make you safer. They make you a target.
Tim God-bless you for getting this information out and speaking the truth. Keep it up, we need you brother
Love it. I almost feel like even having an anti-gunner/pro-gun control advocate on the round table might be even more productive in conversation. You guys know your stuff and being able to bridge to the other side is exactly what we need right now.
It almost always ends the same way.
Demonstrating how ill informed they are then "flipping the table" in a slurry of logical fallacies and insults.
I am the administrator of a 500 student private school in Florida. We have fenced facilities, over 100 monitored security cameras on campus, and highly trained armed security and teachers. The training exceeds FDLE SWAT team gun qualification. We train for tactical entries, room clearing, and ballistic shield training. A large number of law-enforcement officers enroll their children at our school as a result of safety issues. We make it publicly known if you come on our campus with the intent to harm children we will use lethal force. That’s how to stop school shootings.
MAC should talk about the correlation between the rise in social media, general unhappiness, and mass shootings. The channel MedCram has some compelling graphs in their recent video.
My grown son 100% apolitical and usually noncommittal. He just told me exactly what you said in your comment.
good point.
Hitch is.. Social media didn't exist the way it does today for several years after Columbine, and we had a mad rush of shootings happening then. A lack of social media may contribute to - but does not stop the epidemic. Also - that genie is out of it's bottle. You'd have to convince millions of parents to not give their children cell phones, and thousands of schools to take away technology from the classroom.
@@pinchekittybiker or just make social media illegal. it doesnt seem to be helping improve anything
It's never taken more than a couple of calm, respectful conversations with an anti gun advocate, to rethink their emotional response to the problems related to incidents where a gun was used. Talk to people. Ask logical questions. Let them feel good that you have firearms.
Assault rifle is a type of firearm that has: intermediate cartrige, detachable magazine and is select fire. It's not just some made up term.
He mispoke, he of course meant assault weapon. Which is in fact a fantasy term
@@TheRealHorridus Assault weapon is a fantasy term, yes. But I guess you could use it as some kind of rarely used term for something specificly broad. I don't know, English terminology isn't my best suit.
AR15's are not select fire. They are either on "safe" or "fire". Like the vast, vast majority of firearms in existence whether they are semi-auto, single shot, bolt action, etc. Military grade M16/M4's are select fire. Those are not available to the general public nor legal to own by the general public without special licensing. AR15's are not M16/M4's no matter how much they resemble one another from a distance.
@@mopreppinmolivin Yes, semi-autos aren't select fire. Select fire guns are select fire. The semi-auto AssaultRifle-15 isn't select fire US military rifle Model 16, but the M16 is AssaultRifle-15, because it's ArmaLite's Rifle No. 15.
@@juhokuusisto9339 The point being made in the video regarding the term "assault rifle" being "made up" is in the context of that term being universally used by anti-gun leftists to describe the millions of semi-auto (civilian version) AR15's that are owned by millions of gun owners in the U.S. currently. Which by your definition are NOT "assault rifles/assault weapons". But the politicians who are pushing the anti-gun agenda are not honest about that. Which in turn convinces many Americans that every AR15 sold in the U.S is an "assault rifle". As well it has caused many to believe the AR stands for "assault rifle" when in fact stands for Armalite Rifle (the manufacturer of the original version). Both of those narratives are totally false and continue to be used by dishonest politicians such as the President and reinforced by lackey's in the media.
why does not one ask, "what drove this young man to resort to such vile acts?". Was he perhaps mistreated, disregarded, etc.? Did a combination of factors push him to the brink, causing him to start posting shit, perhaps as a plea for help, and when no one responded in any meaningful way, eventually he snapped.
Why do we never look at the root causes of what makes people go bad?
Economics, bullying, depression, suicide, single parent households, poverty, lack of discipline, lack of good male role models, lack of purpose in life, social media, etc.
That requires looking at complex factors with a rational, non biased, understanding perspective. The number of people who can do that is rather limited, it seems. It is far easier to shout and stomp and demand action, or to propose or pass feel good laws that accomplish little if anything. Solving the boy problem here in the feminist West would require re-examining far too many ideas that have become ensconced as sacred cows, unquestionable dogma in our "progressive" society. That takes courage, which, sadly, is in short supply in our political class, and is dwindling alarmingly among the general population.
@@FraterMerovius Unfortunately…
Not just that, how did he afford 1000s of dollars in guns and ammo?
@@creativevisiongaming How do you pay your bills?
@@SoloRenegade, I'm pretty sure he didn't have a job.
I live in a town of 6000 people. 4 schools. 3 resource officers. Also there are teachers in each school that have firearms . Double entry doors with cameras. You have to be buzzed in unless you are an employee. Signs located at each entry that staff is armed .
I just found out that Ohio governor is signing a bill that allows teachers and adults to conceal and carry on school grounds, I do not know the details exactly but it is something to that extent. Hell when I went to school as a young kid in the 80's. I remember we had to go through armed security, and get checked before we even entered the school, everybody did, and that wasn't even a bad community.
Both extremes in our country are crazy. The normal people in the middle who want to go to work, take care of their kids and be left alone need to take the country back.
The difference is their are about 27 crazies on the right who exist primarily online and are ostracized from society at large, including those on the mainstream right. The left is primarily composed of crazies who get hundred of millions of dollars of backing to commit acts of terrorism, are covered positively by mainstream media, and have tacit approval by elected leftists and law enforcement.
I remember the NRA Eddie Eagle Training program for schools! We need that again.
The goal should be to prevent the shooting from even happening, and if it starts, putting the shooter down as soon as possible. This shouldn’t be a divisive goal. Imagine for a second if somebody could have stopped the shooter in Texas 5 minutes after it started. There has to be somebody there to actually respond to and eliminate the threat.
It never occurs to pro gun control advocates that in order for a mass shooting to happen, there has to be a person who consciously wants to kill a bunch of people. Taking away guns doesn’t make that person not want to carry out an atrocity.
Exactly, as I like to say, for these criminals, the gun is merely a means to an end and not the end itself. These people are deranged and sick in the head, but not having access to gun is going to stop them since their goal isn't to simply shoot up a school, or a church, or whatever, it's to cause as much harm as possible. You deny them a gun, they'll find another way and at the end of the day, the victims will still be dead. It's not like people are somehow more dead because they were killed by a gun as opposed to a knife.
The place was surrounded by police, and they failed to stop the shooter because they were afraid of his gun.
@@soundped it’s insane
Yeah, the cops stand around and do nothing.
@@jintsuubest9331 which is why cops shouldn’t be the first and last line of defense. Bolster the security, close off entrances into the building. If something still happens, have somebody present who’s trained, willing, and able to dome a shooter if need be.
Even if there was 1 cop in Texas, that cop should have had zero problem going in and dropping an 18 year old cross dresser. Even if it was scary for the police, because, you know, kids are being shot.
I really enjoy these discussions. Thanks Mac and Jason
I went to the SSI office the other day and they had a full armed Security Officer, who was pretty cool fyi, we got to talking about what happened and what was going on...He fully agreed we need people like him "Guarding our Children and schools"...
As a fireman, just because we’re showing up with a fire truck and thousands of gallons of water doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be able to own fire extinguishers. Same thing for guns, just because we have police doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be able to carry your gun. I liked the statement “you are your own first responder”.
Moral of the story, don’t rely on anyone but yourself for your own protection. Police, EMS, Fire etc. are all great things to have, but how long will it take for them to get to you?
As a fireman what are your thoughts on “one door, one entry, one exit” that was mentioned in this video?
It's more likely that you are going to accidentally hurt yourself or someone you know than protect yourself with a firearm. Quite a bit different than owning a fire extinguisher.
@@d15p4tch6 Absolutely not, if you train, practice marksmanship and have the right state of mind during a self defense situation you will help the situation. But just to be the devils advocate, someone could theoretically do more harm than good with trying to put out a fire themselves(water on a grease fire etc.), does that mean firemen would advocate that you shouldn’t own a fire extinguisher or be allowed to spray a water hose on a fire on your property? No. Respectfully, your point makes no sense.
@@secedenc5544 it's a fact. Statistically, if you own a gun, you are more likely to hurt yourself or someone you know than to use it in self-defense.
Why are you arguing with a fact
@@drewhobbs6837 I would say it depends on the situation, a gun fight & fire can change in a split second. A roof could cave in on the hallway you just walked through, just like you think you have 1 home intruder but really there are multiple and one is coming in the back while a few are coming through the front (blocking your escape route). I would say have a main “pre-plan” set in place, have a backup plan and be able to change it if things start going sideways for both of them. In general tho I would say always go out the way you came in when talking about a fire, for multiple reasons such as the hose, you know it’s structurally sound, etc. but also never leave the structure without the guy(s) you went in with.
16:40 correction, if I may: Government stepped out of the way and basically said they ARENT going to stop this. They showed their true colors and let us know we are on our own. There were multiple opportunities to defuse/de-escalate the "summer of love riots", that were not taken prior to them getting to a point where they could say we CANT stop this
they asked the biden admin if they were gonna make plans to harden our schools and they said no, they thought that was bad. they don't really care about kids safety, they just want gun control. the dead kids are just a means to an end for them.
they could hire multiple veterans for security. have exit only doors, for all back and side exits. have a gun powder sniffing dog who barks, it doesn't even need to be a scary looking dog just one with a good nose. put a chain link fence around certain perimeters, you need a fence so a pervert/kidnappr cant get on the playground. you can harden schools without them feeling like a prison. but they wont because the dems need dead kids for powergrabs.
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Fun fact the word automatic used to refer to self loading firearms when self-loading firearms were first invented. The word automatic changed in definition to fully automatic firing when it was convenient for politicians to limit the access of powerful small arms for civilians. This is always been about the government maintaining the highest amount of force above the citizens.
Every government that is acted like this has subsequently oppressed and killed their own citizens once those firearms were successfully seized.
It changed in definition when weapons could fire multiple rounds with one trigger pull. Why are you talking out your ass like it's a conspiracy? Clearly there's a difference.
If you want to talk about the ridiculous semantics of Assault weapons, that's something I can get behind
A comment on gun safety education prompted a forgotten memory of mine - in high school, a health teach had us submit topics we wanted covered that year, and I wrote, then subsequently spoke to him about touching on gun safety, what you do if you find a gun, finger off the trigger, etc, really basic stuff that maybe people hadn't been exposed to. He told me, not that it was inappropriate, but that we wouldn't because he "just didn't like guns". Glad we spent 40 something hours on venereal disease though.
I had constant safety courses, range time, and 1o1 pointers with firearms instructors as a Venturing Scout when I was i teenager. I learned about different types of pistols, rifles, and shotguns, obviously how to properly handle them ad what to do during some type of malfunction. I probably knew more about firearms and ammo by the time I was 19 than most of these politicians grew. An my knowledge and experience only grew from there over the years.
As a gun owner, I really feel we should solidify our talking points, but it really feels like it's not here in this video. Calling people violent, deranged, and hypocritical is not an argument. Self-victimizing and talking about how we're called domestic terrorists and how people wish violence on us doesn't do anything either. If anything, both of those would just contribute to a cycle of refusing to have a proper conversation from both sides. Both sides end up cherrypicking arguments and choosing the worst to deconstruct. Gun safety courses in schools could be beneficial, but its not comparable to sex ed classes. There were some good points in this video, but they weren't expanded upon enough. There have been articles claiming that blunt force trauma has not killed more than firearms, and we would better spend our time disproving that rather than just putting up one screenshot of an article and moving along to the next point. Pointing out that overly detailed media coverage of a shooter's life could inspire other shooters is a great point, but that should be expanded upon again such as talking to mental health professionals and asking if this really could be the case. And while it is true that a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun, that isn't really a solution either because it doesn't prevent a shooting from happening. A huge missed opportunity is talking about how proposed gun control laws are flawed such as red flag laws or so called universal background checks. We have to face the fact that we live in a reality where saying "it's my right" is not a sufficient enough answer to convince others from enacting gun control, and that we have to better explain our perspectives and viewpoints while using constructive language.
Well said
I was ready for some well thought out responses but it did sound like a lot of victimization. They are getting the worst arguments of anti gun owners and speaking as if it is the entire community. President Biden even recognized just yesterday that guns can’t be taken away but there needs to be more sensible laws. Let’s be honest it’s pretty easy for anyone to get a hold of a firearm. Bringing up anecdotal things like the H3H3 video about bombing the building and Cecil the Lion is really Hacky. They don’t like catch phrases but use their own “you’re your own first responder” “it’s not the gun it’s the owner”. Nothing new nothing constructive. Sincerely, a gun owner
The debate is over. The other side doesn't want to have one. What gun owners need to do is early-stage cultural outreach. Have community-organized first-time shooter sessions. Go to your local cultural centers and hand out fliers offering to educate non-gun owning demographics and offer range time. Stream something non-political, such as video games and raise money and encourage gun rights activism among your viewer base.
You should interview people who disagree with you. The problem with putting out a discussion where you’re surrounded by people that agree is that there’s not a lot of new ground uncovered.
I'm an elementary school teacher.. My students would absolutely be safer if I was allowed to carry just as I do everywhere else outside of school.
@@barnett25 the Florida Guardian program acknowledges this and they train with the school resource officers. The police and guardians. will know exactly which teachers are carrying and are present that particular day. They also train together. Every state needs to adopt something like very similar to the Florida school Guardian program.
your 9mm will be basically useless when a kid walks in with a ar-15 wearing body armor
@@mayorwest3265 So you think I should continue to be disarmed? Are you arguing that I am more capable of defending myself and my students with NO weapons?
Thank you! We need more coherent voices of reason out there like you. Very well discussed.
People use guns to murder children in schools.
Is there a source that I could use against the argument of the 1994 assault weapons ban? I am having trouble finding a source which helps to show that the ban was useless.
We are a threat to their agenda. we are not a threat to national security, We are the national security and that is the problem.
The British would have called the founding fathers domestic terrorists.
They were committing treason against the crown although it wasn't domestically. That being said, I believe they were justified in doing so.
There always seem to be some “events” just before a major election.
If you are seriously suggesting this was a false flag operation for a domestic party’s political game…please go get a psych eval…or cite a concrete source corroborated by primary witnesses, audio, text, and other evidence…. Otherwise save it for Info Wars.
Awesome video! I really liked the conversation format. This is why MAC is one of my favorite channels. Content is always well structured so well and presented professionally.
Having the luxury of having lived a long time I remember the time when there was a proliferation of “gang violence“ that involved shootings. It seems like overnight “gang violence“ has disappeared completely from the narrative and been replaced by “gun violence“. How come no one‘s talking about who’s pulling the trigger?
They don’t really want gun control; their goal is to “do something” while evading addressing the economic issues that drive most homicides and suicides (not just gun related).
Correction, they don't think gun control will fix violence, they just want to use it as an excuse to take away guns.
Their real goal is not to end violence, but to deprive the people of the right and ability to resist Tyranny.
I watched a meeting talking about yellow and red flag laws. Most of speakers were for it. The state in question had a yellow flag law that allow law enforcement to red flag people. When asked why those laws were not used on gang dealers to curb gun violence the police rep stated it was too dangerous to serve yellow flag laws on known gang members. I was floored, he basically admitted they had no intention of using red flag laws on actual threats and would only enforce the law on law abiding citizens.
@@mrbreck1 red flag laws are about disarming lawful gun owners. Gun control laws in general have been used to target minority communities with surveillance state.
Look into Bloomberg’s involvement with stop and frisk and Everytown, and the Clinton Omnibus Crime Bill.
They used an agenda of targeting the fears of college educated urban and suburban white women, in combination with lies regarding the GOP being racist to win elections.
Now they are doing the same thing, but expanding the target list to include working class white men. In the present agenda, working class white men will play the combined role of being the object of fear for college educated white women and to drive fears of racial oppression among minorities so that they can evade the consequences of their prior dog whistle policies in the 1990s which cost them the 2016 election.
"An object cannot be defined by it's use , and , or , missuse." A rock is just a rock . If you use the rock to cause harm or loss. Then the "rock" rolls over and becomes a "weapon". Used properly an "firearm" remains" a firearm. Case solved.
A 12 year old cannot use rocks to murder an entire class of students, but a 12 year old firearms can do that. I am a big 2A guy, been supporting this channel for years. But having lived in several countries and seeing how things work abroad... i am ready to give up my 2a for a better future for the community. You guys should too, u dont need guns to have freedom.
@@FelonMusk2021 you sure about that? humans always find a way to kill. no gun fine... pipe bomb... gas..... poison...............
@@caliginousmoira8565 Yes, but it is not as easy as what the Ramos guy did. He passed background checks, got his guns ala "good guys with guns" until he went nuts and killed all those kids...
My M-16 (M4 depending on the year) in boot camp was referred to each and every time as my “weapon”. So, no, a firearm is not “just a firearm” as you have posed. A firearm, per my boot camp sergeant, is always referred to as my weapon. Example: secure your weapon. Stow your weapon. “CLEAN YOUR WEAPONS”.
A firearm is manufactured for one purpose only and that's to kill. If it wasn't. It wouldn't be a firearm.
From your title, I hoped you had the glimpse of an answer, but it was just the usual rambling.
In 1974, terrorists took over the Netiv Meir Elementary School in Israel and murdered 22 children and 3 others with grenades and automatic weapons, which also injured 68 more people. This barbaric attack forced Israel to come up with a solution to prevent such a horrific event from ever happening again. So afterward the nation required its schools to possess a very robust security system, and that policy is still going strong today, which is why they have only had two other school attacks in 48 years, and in both cases, the bad guys were killed by armed teachers.
As a law enforcement-trained security professional, I agree with the intelligent and effective plan Israel came up with because it incorporates a multi-layered approach to protecting schools, which is what every successful security system employs, instead of a single-minded approach toward protection, such as eliminating guns on campus, which has actually increased not reduced violence in America's schools.
I propose that we truly value and thus protect our children as Israel does with well-trained armed guards, teachers, and bus drivers. Let's employ key cards, high-strength fences, limit and harden all entry checkpoints, install ballistic doors and windows, biometric scanners, metal detectors, individual communication devices, and a whole host of other time-tested methods for securing a building and its occupants.
Thank you for this conversation.
You do not need a police officer in the schools. Private security would be cheaper and more accountable to the school district.
And easier trained.
We've seen how police react in these shooting situations. In parkland the resource officer ran out of the school. In Uvalde they just stood there for an hour. Former military would be better in my opinion. Many of them have actually seen combat before and they have far more training than police. There are plenty of people willing to stand guard at schools.
@@nopenada7195 Schools have a hard time paying teachers. What's the pay for the security with a 9mm and little training?
@@amie704 Maybe that 40 billion to Ukraine can be shared with our public servants.
Except private security are not by law (in Florida at least) allowed to carry a firearm. They must observe and report. Armed police officers however may carry.
We really just need cops with a vested interest. Ones that care about the people in the school. Send a sheriff out there who has two kids and a wife in the school and watch how fast a potential shooter gets sent to a quick dirt nap.
My 2nd Amendment right to bear arms is entirely my business and no one else's. Everyone can arm or disarm, to me it is all the same, I will continue to be armed. There could be a million dead and it has no bearing on my rights. A million people could be offended and it has no bearing on my right to say whatever I wish. Unalienable is cut and dry and debate is no strategy because there is nothing to discuss. It may not be today but they will come for them eventually because they will never be satisfied until they get them. Be vigilant and ready to take action when they do.
i am ready to give up my 2A for the betterment of the community, sad but neccessary. Having lived abroad in Europe and Asia for more than 12 years taught me kinda opened my eyes and heart.
As they said: the gun is not the issue.
So your right to bear arms isn't about the type of gun you're allowed to carry, as long as you're allowed to carry a gun.
So, anything that isn't a musket can comfortably be banned. A good guy with a musket can stop a bad guy with an AR-15. It is, after all, just a tool and totally irrelevant to the question.
@@FelonMusk2021 Not owning a firearm is giving up your 2A. That is your choice. However, the United States is a Constitutional Republic. If by community you mean country, and said country is the United States, the Constitution guarantees rights, one of them being the ownership of firearms and that means any firearm in any quantity. I will be an armed citizen of this sovereign nation. That is my choice. Possessing unalienable rights as an individual member of this country is empowering and giving your rights away is never necessary. If that's your choice, and ultimately it is, you're right, that is sad, but I have no obligation to follow suit.
@@whitescar2 Wrong. Shall not be infringed does not come with stipulations. Any firearm in any quantity with as much ammo as I can keep is exactly what the 2A guarantees including the ownership of artillery, flamethrowers, gatling guns, etc.
@@zerowykd Ah, so clearly the manner of weapon *does* matter after all. The hypocricy is revealed once again.
Your right to bear arms is not infringed as long as you have a right to a firearm. It does not infringe upon your right to own a gun if I specify that the manner of operation is muzzle-loading. That was the standard when the constitution was written, and it did not infringe upon their rights in any way.
Why would it be infringing on the 2nd Amendment? You still have the right to carry that weapon. Heck, I'd be fine with you taking it to so-called "gun free zones" and thus, it would increase your right to bear arms.
There are restrictions, completely legal and constitutional, on the manner of firearms you're allowed to own. The most obvious being the "no modern machineguns" provision. That limitation has held up to constitutional scrutiny just fine, so obviously the manner of firing can be limited whilst still allowing people to freely own guns.
The shooting in Texas should show the world why we should have firearms all the time. The police were on site for 40 minutes to 1 hour for reasons to be debated later and still children were killed if one teacher or security officer could have ended it. We are our own fire line of defense.
Exactly!
Worse, 2 security officers on campus exchanged gunfire and ran.
There's about 131,000 public and private k-12 schools in America. If we assigned 1 school security officer each at a $40,000/yr salary, that's $5.24 billion US tax dollars per year.
Thanks for bringing up the fact that when you call 911, you are asking for a good guy with a gun to help you. Yes, he has a badge and training but many of us have training also. Both military or civilian training.
Just a comment, When I was in High School a number of schools had shooting teams, Students carried there rifles from there locker to the range every day! that's back when we were taught responsibility and to respect one another!!!
The huge majority of gun owners are rule followers, but there are people out there with so much hate in their life that they want to hurt others on their way out of this life. We do need to fund and implement mental health programs and policies that keep unstable people from getting control of guns. I also think that the minor/adult division in the law needs to be removed.
Maybe what we should do to stop school shootings is get two gun guys who agree on everything, who can’t effectively understand or articulate what the opposite side of the arguments, and have them post a video so that they can get hi-fives from thousands of other people who share their opinion. This was a great video on how to not prevent mass shootings.
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There were no guns allowed at the NRA meeting in Houston let the irony sink in.
To prevent future shootings inside the school, to provide fence around the school. all exits and entrances are provided with security guards. all incoming students are checked for illegal items. all outsiders are allowed only if it passed security protocol. Security guards are important to guard the school. Fence is a must for any property.
Still, these psychos are going to find a way, they will use snipers or kill from long range... But, they usually reveal their plans before doing It, and honestly, Thats the opportunity to kill the killer
I definitely agree with the points made in this video, yet, I will say that not all "good guys with guns" are responsible, fearless human beings. Many cops are cowards; just as many cops are bad apples, and this cannot be overstated. And once civilians with firearms are added that number grows even more. I agree that we need more security but that is not the end all be all. The supermarket with the shooting in Buffalo, had an armed guard, he was shot and killed. That was indeed a good guy with a gun, and a brave one at that. But a security presence does not neccecarily mean no loss of life.
We still need to fight this issue at its source, what laws will work that don't infringe on the rights of normal law abiding citizens. Age requirements, looking for red flags in certain individuals, (such as clearly extremely racist or violent rhetoric, and animal abuse; keeping tabs on those individuals, the same way you keep tabs on suspected drug dealers or terrorists), and allowing parents to take legal responsibility if their weapon is used in a shooting.
My only problem is that you only hear solutions from the left. For example, if mental health is the problem, why don't Republicans give federal money to mental health organizations, or help schools set up mental health check ins with kids? IMHO the gun community as a whole needs to have these conversations. Whether we like it or not, these are people in our community that carry out these acts; they are legal "law abiding" gun owners, right up until they pull that trigger.
Because if we don't talk about ways to cut down on these things the Left will.
Well said.
Allow willing adults in gun free zones to be armed. Increase physical security of schools and other soft targets. But these options are wholly unpalatable to people who are fine with kids being killed in exchange for banning guns. Republicans make many recommendations but they are loudly stomped out by Democrats yelling about doing something and not making schools into fortresses.
When I was in school, 40 + years ago, we took our own rifles and shotguns to school. Actual gun safety was taught back then, and not one school shooting. It makes me sad to where our country is now. However, logic would seem to dictate that if law-abiding gun owners were the real problem, there would be few, if any, anti gun people out there.
And if they do pass these unconstitutional acts, DO NOT COMPLY!
…it’s a cute refrain…. but also poorly thought out. Women not being allowed to vote, 3/5th compromise, prohibition…. the fact that we have a 2nd amendment at all (it wasn’t in the core constitution. Your appeal to authority is someone ironic given what I infer you intend to convey…
Could not agree more. Guys keep the "round table" going.
I love when u guys have these round tables lot to talk about
After Parkland and now Uvalde, I'm surprised that pro 2A people like yourself are actually still advocating for more School Resource Officers. SRO's don't stop these shootings and some cops (Uvalde PD) are completely willing to sit outside and allow a shooting to continue happening.
We've seen time and time again that police do not have an obligation to protect life and they will happily refuse to protect life seeing as there are no consequences for them.
Don't bother mentioning increasing funding for "better trained" cops, Uvalde PD takes ~40% of the towns budget and had done active shooter training prior to the shooting.
A single entry building is a terrible idea, think about fires. How about each classroom has an emergency exit that can only be opened from the inside so that students are not trapped inside the school during a shooting or a fire.
You are conflating entries and exits.
Of coarse there will be multiple exits.
they asked the biden admin if they were gonna make plans to harden our schools and they said no, they thought that was bad. they don't really care about kids safety, they just want gun control. the dead kids are just a means to an end for them.
they could hire multiple veterans for security. have exit only doors, for all back and side exits. have a gun powder sniffing dog who barks, it doesn't even need to be a scary looking dog just one with a good nose. put a chain link fence around certain perimeters, you need a fence so a pervert/kidnappr cant get on the playground. you can harden schools without them feeling like a prison. but they wont because the dems need dead kids for powergrabs.
Seems like a lot of these point to NICS being a failure. People that aren’t supposed to be getting guns are getting them. No amount of legislation will change that. We should just put armed guards at schools and allow teachers to carry. This only “solves” the problem after the bad guy has walked in. The real issue is stopping the bad guy from doing it in the first place. We just need to talk to everyone and make sure they are ok. I’m sure that these peoples friends, teachers, parents, etc knew something was up with these people before they decide to do something terrible.
So your solution, is to try to fix people ? In AMERICA ? That doesn´t sound very capitalist to me, and that would cost tax money. Are you saying that we should go the socialist road, and actualy try to help people ?
Impossible, but again, i live in EU, we try to rebeliate criminals and this costs money, money that you guys in the US don´t want to spend on criminals, i don´t have to worry about geting my ass shot at school in the EU at least.
Well I am a gun owner in Australia, prior to the self-loading rifles ban we had a number of mass shootings. The port Arthur incident caused that ban. Regulations got very tight, hand gun only for guards of money transport, sport shooters, police and military. Collectors can own guns, but have also very strict regulations. Those regulations effectively stopped mass shootings.
Looking at all senseless mass shootings besides terrorism, seems always young in some cases older angry men with an axe to grind.
Many nations have relatively high weapons ownership, however those get filtered and assessed. To me that a 18 year old can buy an AR without some form of assessment makes little sense.
In America you need a background check to own a rifle, but it is hard to have a record at 18. I wouldn't mind moving the age up to 21, but then they would need to move up the age to get drafted, join the military, and to vote for it to make sense to me.
Ya know...I'm a much different person than I used to be. I want to preface what I'm about to say with the fact that there was a time...when I was younger...and less experienced in life, less open minded, faster to jump to defend my core beliefs from people that are opposed to them. Slower to listen reasons once someone wanted to express their opposition to my beliefs.
All that kind of changed when I had a profound experience. People have labeled them "near death experiences". It's an incorrect definition. What they should be called are soul form or untethered life experiences. This experience was extremely profound, and though so beautiful and full of awe and love that there are no words to describe it in a way that does it justice or gives the respect to it that it deserves, it was also so traumatic and shocking that I will never fully heal from it.
What I learned about this subject is this: We are all born to this earth innocent, pure, defenseless, void of any conception of who or what we are, and more than anything, a SPONGE for knowledge and in desperate need of direction from others. We are 100% the responsibility of not just our parents, but every person our parents expose us to and every environment. The problem is that EVIL/DARKNESS/INDIFFERENCE...it exists. We cannot control whether or not other people allow that darkness into their heart. People don't realize that it's not like the movies where the force on earth that is evil and darkness at it's core doesn't appear to us as itself all the time. It has to appear to be the light so that it can perform it's sole purpose: Leading us away from our intended purpose and the meaning of this life, which to learn how to Love each other as we want to be loved, and to do it without expectations of personal gain and with unconditional forgiveness. To help and serve our fellow man and encourage others to do so. It's here to destroy us and cause pain and suffering and indifference in our hearts for each other. It's selfish, ruthless, narcissistic, vindictive, jealous, violent, immoral, and indifferent. As long as there is this unseen dark force, it's OUR DUTY to fight it. Some of us are better at it than others because of what we absorbed as we have progressed in life. The only way evil prevails is when good men just watch and do nothing. Firearms are 100% necessary to protect us from evil. They will also be used by evil in order to try and tear us apart. Evil doesn't play by rules, laws, or morals. The moment we let down our guard, it wins. The human race...especially in America and parts of Europe that are 1st world countries...has been absolutely ravaged by the darkness, and its done such a good job of appealing to their ego that they have completely surrendered to it and it now is in control of their lives. You see...it comes in that voice in your head that tells you it's OK to hurt others if it benefits you. It helps you justify it or make excuses or blame others. Every time we do something we know is wrong or hurt someone that is innocent or loves us, we let a little more in. It also loves company. The more souls it can lead astray the better, so when there's large groups of people with hate for other people in their heart and threatening or committing violence against people who simply have different beliefs, you know what's at work.
I see 2 groups of people that are wanting to take away our right to defend ourselves from the evil in the hearts of men. The first is a group of citizens who have frankly lost any and all sense of what is moral, right, wrong, and just, and have never seen evil's true face because they weren't exposed to an environment where the threat of another person attacking you is a daily reality, and having a means to defend themselves is truly a life or death necessity, and the other group is the people who have the power to make laws and take away our freedom if we break them. That's a scary situation. We can't let the darkness win. Those of us that are still on the right side of what's right and wrong stand to lose everything to those who have blinded those who aren't and the blind themselves. We are at a very dangerous tipping point as a human race. Guns are simply tools. Laws have never stopped evil or the people it has worked itself into. This isn't just a battle for our freedom. It's a battle for our souls.
Good video . In these times we need more sensible folks like y’all. Thanks for all you do.
The shooter was stopped by, for all intents and purposes, an armed citizen while the police basically stood around, and the response the Left has is to try and make it HARDER for lawful gun owners to acquire and use firearms while stating those same firearms should be only for police and military.
This is legitimate insanity UNLESS there's a higher motive to these legislative actions.
I'm not going to say many politicians aren't factually insane, but it should be very clear at this point that it's not about keeping weapons out of the hands of criminals, they don't actually give a shit about stopping tragedies like this, it's all about control.
Why do I have to wait for someone to start shooting up the school to act? I’m glad someone finally put and end to it…civilian or otherwise…but why did the gunman have to get the gun in the gutsy place? The only argument I’m hearing on the right is that any attempt to stop a maniac from owning a gun is also an attempt to stop lawful ownership. I’m tired of this slippery slope bullshit argument. The weapon the shooter used was legally acquired in all four of the latest mass shootings. It’s a complete red herring whether or not a good guy with a gun is around to stop this! It shouldn’t happen in the first place! How many people need to die before a good guy with a gun stops the shooter for your value system to make sense?
It’s about time attention was brought to these inanimate killers. Now that we recognize inanimate objects as having free will to kill thousands, we have precedent to blame other inanimate objects, like cars.
Attention is the new currency
Perhaps if people in the US cared about people's mental health, as well as health in general; those mass shootings would be less frequent.
Isn't there plenty of legislation on the safety of cars? Cars are legislated and regulated to hell and back.
And rocks
hear hear...
One way the Uvalde school shooting could have been prevented or stopped is if the police who responded were brave enough to save lives instead of waiting outside the hallway.
The shooter had all the red flags
As far as I'm aware the killings were over by the time the cops got there, but yes the cops should have immediately made entry. What would have prevented this latest massacre was the ability of an idiot to buy assault rifles.
@@Truthbomb918 That’s not true. They say several of the kids may have been saved had they not been left to bleed out for an hour.
@@CreachterZ haven't seen anything with such specific information anywhere but I'd imagine most were already dead seeing as they were shot with a high velocity rifle and they couldn't identify some of the bodies and needed dna which would assume they were head shots
@TJ they were shot repeatedly while the police stood outside.
UK citizen here. The slippery slope of banning weapons and it doing absolutely nothing reigns true. We in the UK have effectively little in the way of legal firearms, a minuscule firearm culture and many forms of melee weapons are also banned.
Despite this laws, we have a staggering amount of knife crime (including the use of machetes) and many rampages in recent times were done using vehicles such as vans, lorries and other heavy good vehicles and like the US, the majority of gun crime is committed using illegally obtained firearms via black markets but it's only the exceptions that used firearms obtained by legal methods used in spree killings that ever make the news and it's only in those exceptional circumstances that suddenly the government is more than eager to make weapon restrictions ever tighter.
In short, the laws do nothing but punish the law-abiding citizen and as you said in the discussion, evil people will find a way to commit their evil acts.
Must be said that I was genuinely surprised that knives are more prevalent in US crime than rifles which just tells me further than restriction on firearms does nothing to the crime levels: see above.
Thank you for a much needed conversation
So sad that most people on the left will never take the time to watch this with an open mind and see that it all makes sense. Great video gentlemen. I shared it on my social media accounts to help spread the word.
Plenty of armed leftists out there. You’re thinking of libs that hate guns
…left leaning fellow, firearms history fan…and disgusted American. Two men agreeing on everything and putting out the same suggestions that were floated after columbine…did not impress.
@@H4x0rNetSaber There were no Columbines happening before Bidens gun free school zones. 500 plus kids dead now bud. You think guns are the problem? I live in the most gun friendly state in the country. No gun free zones and yet we are the safest state in the country year after year. Kids here can still take guns to school with consent, Yet no school shootings.. How's Chicago, NY and LA doing tho? Lol