PIONEER DJ DJ OPUS QUAD vs Denon DJ PRIME 4 - Which is better..for YOU?

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  • Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
  • This is a quick comparison of the key features between two of the best flagship standalone controllers on the market today. Which one is better fit for your DJ needs?
    #Pioneerdj #Denondj #OpusQuad #Prime4 #Mixlive #EarnestDelaine #djequipment

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  • @djndgindagruv214
    @djndgindagruv214 2 місяці тому +2

    I've had the Prime 4 since it first came out and I believe I was the first one if not one of the first ones to get it here in Dallas,Texas after patiently waiting for Denon DJ to release it since the March 2019 deadline kept getting pushed back later throughout that year until around Sept./Oct...... with that being said,I was beyond surprised at the miles of features they packed into this unit and still today we get updates and more added features and this thing is truly a standalone in that you don't need a laptop if you don't want to lug it around..... to me..... the only other thing that can beat it..... is its predecessor..... the latest Denon DJ PRIME 4+...... after seeing your review on both of these wonderful machines...... it's clear no-brainer that the best bang for your buck is in the PRIME 4..... especially since the opus cost almost double and has less features..... even today with the latest firmware version on the PRIME 4(version 3.4.0) the effects on it should be very close if not better then the opus..... just seems unfair to the pioneer faithful to spend THAT MUCH MONEY on a piece of dj hardware with less features than one if it's competitors and one that's almost 3 or 4 years older than the opus during the time of your good review💯💯💯💯👍👍👍

  • @djnaydee
    @djnaydee Рік тому +12

    If the OPUS was the same price as the Prime 4, I could see a future where after many updates to catch it up to what the Prime 4 can do, perhaps it would compete. Otherwise at 50% more money for less features, its definitely a rip off at this point. You'd just be buying into the "Hype" and brand name.

  • @SOUNDMARCO
    @SOUNDMARCO Рік тому +17

    Denon Dj have everything we need. additional good things are updates which is free and giving you new features. For me pioneer a little bit to expensive. Bring now beat jump what was long time in denon. Nothing except look going on pioneer side. I think I will stay for longer with my Denon. Really happy with it 😊

    • @DjVloggers
      @DjVloggers  Рік тому +1

      What's up DJ Marco, and thanks for watching. I agree with everything you said. If I were to be fiercely critical of the Prime 4, I would like to see better FX execution (I'd like to see paddles like on the DJM-S7) and full-size jog wheels.
      Thanks for the comment and please subscribe.

  • @villianaire
    @villianaire Рік тому

    Great comparison. Thanks so much, bro.

  • @DjMarkGuzman
    @DjMarkGuzman Рік тому +4

    Great job with this review just need to remember Prime 4 is already 4 yrs old and is a destroyer!

  • @jakejakejakejakejakejake
    @jakejakejakejakejakejake Рік тому

    Great video, homeboy! This is the video I needed! 👌👌👌👌❤❤❤❤❤❤✌✌🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @giladshaked131
    @giladshaked131 Рік тому +7

    Prime 4 all day long

  • @djfane4790
    @djfane4790 Рік тому +5

    Denon is few years upfront, but of course Pioneer drive the clubs and until the clubs owners will change the equipment take years. Pioneer just good layout and effects, in rest very high price for plastic equipments. I own both brands from Denon DN-2000F in 1992 to Pioneer cdj-3000, all their clubbing equipments last 30 years, Denon is much better build, already few years before Pioneer wifi and various storage options including internal SSD alongside dozens of updates listening the customers side. Keep going Denon DJ.

    • @Juiceb0xable
      @Juiceb0xable 6 місяців тому

      Denon always been underated as hell. First time I played in Denon gear I was blown away.

  • @69rjsg
    @69rjsg Рік тому

    great job review.

  • @Gabri_dj79
    @Gabri_dj79 Рік тому

    Tnks bro... Ciao da Parma italy 🇮🇪🎶🎼

  • @Nogui_Aramburo
    @Nogui_Aramburo 8 днів тому

    Prime 4 definitely has more features - but the user experience on the opus quad is incredible. Same with the prime go vs the Omni Duos

  • @marcosbabeto
    @marcosbabeto Рік тому +2

    Nice video!! 👍👍

    • @DjVloggers
      @DjVloggers  Рік тому +1

      What's up DJ Marcos. Thanks for the kind words and for watching!

  • @elvinlewis4233
    @elvinlewis4233 10 місяців тому +2

    Need a comparison to the P4+. Those FX may be better now.

  • @ericjohnston4151
    @ericjohnston4151 Рік тому +1

    Great video prime 4 all day 👌

  • @JL-bu8bz
    @JL-bu8bz 26 днів тому

    Good job. Design Pioneer wins. Features Denon wins. And durability? Quality components? Quality Sound?

  • @agentjay8644
    @agentjay8644 10 місяців тому

    I am not afraid to say that I switched over to Denon when the sc6000s came and the prime 4. I got poth sets. 2 years running strong!!

  • @DJTEDDY507
    @DJTEDDY507 Рік тому +2

    Denon is the best bang for your money. Great review, very methodical.

  • @massimomarazzo9180
    @massimomarazzo9180 Рік тому +1

    SCREEN: Graphic / Fonts and the Spotify standard view of the Prime 4 is much better than the old graphic design of Pioneer with old fonts and without a parallel view of playlist and tracks.

  • @alexdefrancisco3066
    @alexdefrancisco3066 Рік тому +1

    Has the prime 4 ever frozen on you? Mine froze yesterday. The hardware controls still worked but the screen froze until it came back 20 minutes later

  • @donruga627
    @donruga627 Місяць тому

    Only thing the killing the Opus on is you can stream directly from Tidal Apple etc

  • @Reticuli
    @Reticuli Рік тому +3

    Good job. Also, Denon DJ Prime can read traditional Rekordbox and Engine DJ playlists and databases. Opus Quad can't read either and requires an entirely new database. Opus Quad lacks a split cue hardware button or switch. Opus Quad firmware has better sound quality with extended treble and lower aliasing & IMD, but if you think Pioneer DJ is too pristine and not enough grime & 'warmth' added to your sound, then maybe Prime is for you. As you've already said, Prime 4 is cheaper, but it also has a better community on the forum.

  • @kellyaustin7487
    @kellyaustin7487 Рік тому +1

    Denon all day 👍🏾

  • @nunobrito3366
    @nunobrito3366 Рік тому +1

    Prime 4 all the way

  • @djmotion86
    @djmotion86 Рік тому +1

    Denon needs to work on their design for sure

  • @itspotionmana
    @itspotionmana Рік тому +4

    to be honest, Denon UI it is more better, imo

    • @DjVloggers
      @DjVloggers  Рік тому

      What's up and thanks for watching. I find Denon's UI a bit more user-friendly too.

  • @SnaikHead
    @SnaikHead Рік тому

    Finally someone said something about the garbage effects quality of Engine dj compared to Pio. it truly is noticeable

    • @djmartinsk
      @djmartinsk Рік тому +1

      Engine DJ is Desktop software, doesnt have FX. Engine OS is performance software for all Denon DJ standalone units.
      Wait for new firmware 3.1.0 (coming soon). Will have Huge huge improovements for FX, on the all standalone units. It will be big, (mega improvements) and the effects will be much much better than before. (included touch FX in all prime standalone systems and single players). Even better than Pioneer DJ gears.

    • @SnaikHead
      @SnaikHead Рік тому

      @@djmartinsk sure maybe in the future, but they got a mountain to climb. pioneer effects are DAW level good, dare I say even better. u know something, I actually bought the prime 4. had it for just under a month. effects sounded crap, no active loops etc. etc.... and for me as a mobile dj, I just cant wait for a (soon to be better with update) to decide the quality of my sound. keep in mind this was 2 years ago, and till this day didn't improve. Denon or engine or whatever just keep focusing on adding features that Pioneer don't have, problem is that they are attempting that without nailing the fundamentals. so am glad I didn't wait to return it. and get my pioneer.
      anyways cheers my brah!!✌

  • @anthonygato407
    @anthonygato407 5 місяців тому

    the opus is a bit of a baller piece.

  • @frank060272
    @frank060272 Рік тому +4

    Does standard matter? Both Denon and Pioneer are easy to play with.

    • @DjVloggers
      @DjVloggers  Рік тому +1

      What's up Frank and thank for watching. It matters to some. I am a long time Pioneer user and still have several pieces of their equipment, but began looking at other innovative brands like Denon. Pioneer was the 'New Kids' in the early 2000's. I gave them a try and glad I did, just like when I made the move to Denon several years ago. Please subscribe :)

    • @DJGlashammer
      @DJGlashammer Рік тому +1

      the Prime 4 is a great device ! -
      but you said that right at the beginning.
      I also don't like the FX and also the cheap plastic buttons.
      he can do a lot - yes.
      but sometimes less is more.
      pio what is there works 100%.
      that's more important to me.
      Its a bit of a comparison like Windows vs MacOS - Windows definitely has a lot more options than macOS but what's available with macOS just runs without any problems. An example is the XDJ XZ.
      everyone gets upset about him because technically he should be able to do a lot more for his time, but everyone still has or would like to have him.
      so many forums are full of people wanting to sell or exchange Prime 4 on xz - I've never seen it the other way around.
      it has its reasons.
      At the end I would like to say the point of sound -
      one of the most important points for us DJ’s and this clearly goes to Opus.
      by the way Prime 4 = meanwhile also at 2500€ in Germany
      Thx for the Video 👍

    • @DjVloggers
      @DjVloggers  Рік тому +1

      @@DJGlashammer Thank you for watching and for your comments.
      2500€ in Germany? WOW! How much for the Opus?
      I agree with you about Pioneer's reliability. I have never had a failure on any piece of Pioneer equipment. Denon DJ is pushing the envelope when in comes to technology, and with that they have had some issues. For me, none of those issues have caused me any major problems during a gig. What I like about Denon DJ is that they listen to the feedback from consumer and respond to consumer request's (the Sampler feature was suggested on their forum and it was implemented in the latest firmware release).
      Thanks you again for watching and please subscribe.

    • @DJGlashammer
      @DJGlashammer Рік тому

      @@DjVloggers
      Yes, right 2500 € currently
      It started at €1800
      The Opus Quad currently €3299 - €3499
      As I said before, I'm absolutely with them.
      What denon has thrown onto the market with the Prime series is really remarkable.
      I also agree that denon listens to its users and implements things.
      It will be very interesting to see how they will continue.
      At the moment I am personally going to Pio. Remain.
      The ecosystem is just super good.
      Rekordbox - Cloud - cloud direct play - Rekordbox app
      With this alone, I always have my entire collection in my pocket and can manage my library
      Playlists - Hotcues - Grids etc
      And always have everything up to date on all my devices.
      Even if I change things on tracks with Pioneer devices, such as saving loops etc., it will be transferred directly to my library if I wish.
      Greetings 🖖

    • @Reticuli
      @Reticuli Рік тому

      What about the Opus Quad is standard? The word 'Pioneer' on it? Literally nothing else on it is standard, though. New proprietary database system required. Pioneer's never done 4 layers before. Hot cue triggers are new buttons. Jog is different. Shape is different. Color scheme is different. Preview function is different. Not even the cueing system is the same.

  • @PGVladimirovich
    @PGVladimirovich Рік тому +1

    Second rate effects, Engine db issues, and half assed implementation of streaming (no way to sort without a crazy rekordbox to lexicon then back to engine workaround) are really making the Pioneer look good to me. Granted Pioneer has to still demonstrate competence when it comes to streaming service integration but at least there is a simple (but paid) workaround via rekordbox cloud streaming. Note I started on Pioneer, then moved to Denon with the release of Prime 4 so have experienced both sides.
    As a side note, it seems to me Denon has a similar approach to Tesla when it comes to development. This leads to the release of many fun, exciting and innovative features however on the flip side many features remain in a beta state and priorities are all over the place as well as timelines on deliverables. At the end of the day I have little interest in paying a company for a product so I can spend my time doing QA (at this rate I am seriously considering starting an open source project, time permitting).

  • @jandekok9349
    @jandekok9349 9 місяців тому

    Sound of pioneer is better , but its expensive pioneer must reduce the price a little

  • @hristian33
    @hristian33 Рік тому +2

    As a Prime 4 user I'm actually not really regretting my purchase, but I would've rather stuck with Pioneer if they didn't have the shortage. My story with Denon has been quite unreliable. My unit has already been sent in for repair and it isn't even a year old yet. Since the new 3.0 update my streaming quality has gone down significantly. Like you said, the FX on Pioneer is just better overall. I find that the Echo and the Reverb aren't as smooth or clean sounding as on Pioneer. But the new 3.0 update has also brought in samples that I already use on the regular. But if you're planning on buying any 2 of these I would save up a bit more and go for the Opus Quad. I'm not that amazed by the Prime 4 as I would've hoped to be.

    • @alanaban3519
      @alanaban3519 Рік тому +3

      Prine 4 better all the way

    • @alanaban3519
      @alanaban3519 Рік тому +1

      Good try pioneer but not good enough on all fronts

    • @hristian33
      @hristian33 Рік тому

      @@alanaban3519 honestly, wish I could say the same hahahaha

    • @alanaban3519
      @alanaban3519 Рік тому +2

      I have not use pioneer latest product but at a glance the prime 4 is the better all round unit / I an totaly please with my prime 4,/ at that price i would purchase another one / it is ahead of its time only bluetooth is missing / after using it it is hard to go back to pioneer / i also had others that was good but p4 is the best yet

    • @djbean08
      @djbean08 Рік тому +2

      I love the features on the prime 4 but the build quality doesn't feel as good as any pioneer kit I have played on. I have a prime 4 in my 28 years of djing it's the only kit I have managed to easily snap off an upfader. I'm sticking with the prime 4. I can't justify paying that much more money for the opus

  • @giladshaked131
    @giladshaked131 Рік тому +1

    Prime cost half of opus - prime best

  • @shearcreatif
    @shearcreatif Рік тому

    prime 4 fx section is in the wrong place and i hate it because im right handed

  • @bboymac84
    @bboymac84 6 місяців тому

    Prime 4+ comparison tho…

  • @TerrenceLP
    @TerrenceLP 4 місяці тому

    Pioneer is so disappointing lately 😢 reminds me of the downfall of many other brands that rest on their success. Tides are turning 🎉 yay for DJs and more choice ❤

  • @pajtimdj
    @pajtimdj Рік тому +1

    Pioneer Opus-Quad all day

  • @stylpup
    @stylpup Місяць тому

    Lost me as soon as you said Opus has more features than the Prime 4+ because thats incorrect. Do better

  • @dj-ericvisa-nyc
    @dj-ericvisa-nyc Рік тому +1

    So glad I waited for this. Opus Quad all day, every day! PS: great review!!! I, too, love the looks. But I know not everyone does.
    I def prefer it to the Prime I actually haven’t bothered with a Denon device since their dual CD players back in the early 2000s. Denon design is just “too busy” for my taste.
    And now with the Opus Quad out, I feel like Denon design in general is too bland and square for me. The only thing that would make me consider Denon over Pioneer at this point would be stems on the hardware. Whoever lands that feature wins!

  • @ozkars.5175
    @ozkars.5175 Рік тому

    Denon Prime 4 is better than Opus wierd...😂

  • @crooty9
    @crooty9 Рік тому

    Prime 4 looking a bit dated now.

  • @bj6570
    @bj6570 Рік тому +1

    Prime engine is garbage the controller looks cheap and the effects are trash lol

  • @DJPOPAAL
    @DJPOPAAL Рік тому +1

    Prime 4 is trash.. I sold mine long ago.

    • @DjVloggers
      @DjVloggers  Рік тому +4

      What's up DJ Popa, and thanks for watching. Sorry you had a poor experience with the Prime 4. As I mentioned in the video, I've had mine for over 3 years and have experienced great fun reliability with it. I've been a LONG time Pioneer user (bought the 1st CDJs before Serato was a thing) and I still have several pieces fo Pioneer gear in my arsenal (DJM-S7, DDJ-SZ2). With Denon DJ, I saw how forward-thinking they were with with their product line up and decided to give them a try. I'm glad I did.
      Anyways, thanks for watching and keep spinning.

    • @giladshaked131
      @giladshaked131 Рік тому

      How much pay you

  • @thelapander
    @thelapander Рік тому

    I was just about to pull the trigger and it's launching without streaming services? Fail