The Last Valor got a hugee buff/mechanic fix. Typically it takes 4 shots to trigger shrapnel, since crits count as two, the counter for shrapnel will carry over to the next shrapnel proc. So 3 non crits and one crit will trigger shrapnel and after that you’d only need to hit 3 non crits for the next shrapnel proc.
last courage is scar its means if u hit 3 normal shot or 1 crit and 1 normal shot and then the next shot is crit it will trigger shrapnel and then u need 3 hits not 4 again since the crit counts as 2 out of 4 hits to trigger shrapnel
@@Happns yeah.. it happens to me alot since I play with 300ms but since the update it's occurring less than before and my dps seems pretty consistent than before as well
18:14 - Deep Deflagration was probably intended for Crank, but I cannot WAIT to see how this goes with my beloved Dual Fury. I sacrificed all my crank frags to make it 5* because nothing compares to the joy of setting myself on fire
@10:05 According to the chinese interpretation of the original post, It is actually a buff: The line starts with +20% blaze damage without any requirement. Reloading still consumes all 4 orbs and each orb gives +8%, so that's +52% blaze damage from max orbs reload. Honestly I don't see them nerfing Pyroclasm anymore than the way it currently is, in within the shotgun department it's already stomped hard by Doombringer in every aspect as is.
5:57 F in chat 14:00 ice blocks count as enemies when you destroy them, you're welcome great patch overall, i like these smal buffs to everything that sucks patch, let's see how my bounce and frost builds work now
12:06 I think "The Last Courage" is the SOCR Last Valor and I think the change is saying if the count is at 3 and you crit, shrapnel used to proc and reset to 0 since it would be 5, but now the extra crit keeps the extra count and carries over as 4+1 so you start the next cycle at 1. I honestly expected a nerf, but I'll take a buff as someone still building up and new to the game.
Yeah. So it looks like by starting the counter at 1 instead of 0 it will smooth out the damage more for the times you may not crit. I don't think in theory its a big buff, but may smooth out bad rng a bit on the noncrit hits.
Literally nothing changed for pvp with Bingo/Wildfire still be vastly overpowered just now you’re even more pigeonholed in to having to use them because Jaws can’t even counter it now. Actual dog shit changes for the PvP side…..
yeah exactly what i said , gave bingo a buff with the speed of the OTS aiming increased and just nerfed frost for PvP so now really only guns left is bingo / wildfire / jaws lmao shits cooked yo devs actually dont even play their own game
With the changes to fire mod i think that might be more for the new fire M416 and maybe the fire HAMR crumble sniper, either way they are still below average guns the fire damage just takes to long on them.. They should add a dragons breath impact effect after a certain amount of shots to all fire weapons without having to collect them balls, similar to shrapnel effect or bounce on impact but with dragon breath damage instead in addition to the existing fire damage, then fire guns would be fun to use.. If enough people say they want it then the devs might change fire guns to give us a dragon breath bullet impact dmg on all fire weapons.. :)
I read the post first then come across your video. I really thought the upcoming buff for Conflicting Memories is juiciest unless I misunderstood the translation. Let me know if math checks out: At 166 magazine size: Old: 166-100=66 66/15=4.4 ~4 4*8= 32% Shrapnel Damage New 166-90=76 76/15=5.066 ~5 5*10= 50% Shrapnel Damage 18% Buff on Shrapnel Damage just on the change alone.
Uhhhhhgggggg just because i don't use jaws and bingo like every other Meta chaser I'm getting punished again. This is so frustrating it's crazy. Head Guard is completely useless for my build now, before it was it only thing keeping me viable. This sucks. I've wanted balancing since launch, but this is gonna punish me again. Holy hell. Smh
Bro like 20 builds just got buffed and you still playing some dogshit? thats a skill issue fr, nothing to do with meta chasing. You actively trying to stay in the dirt.
Thanks for this guide. Can you add some text to the names next time? The translation and what kind of gun is really confusing and have to pause many times just to get what gun was changed.
I think you misunderstood the Dusty rework description, it's not 30% for body and increased by 65% on weakspot, it's increased to 65% on weakspot, so a flat out buff
yeah, but on left side it says 55%. left side is what was old buff. new buff on the right side, why is the 30% included then ? Why not just leave the 65% when hitting weakspots. Properly translated it says it triggers 30% on a hit. If you hit a weakspot it increases to 65%.
@Doomeris that's pretty much how I was reading it. was commenting mostly on you seeming confused whether or not it increased *by* 65% or *to* 65%, and I'm almost certain it's the later. overall straight buff; better chance to trigger Shrap on a weakspot hit, and normal hits aren't completely useless.
@7七hconvict haven't looked into corrosion too much but I been using jaws since release date for pvp. I hope they add some new changes to change it up a bit.
What the hell do you mean "thank god they didn't nerf any of the guns" ?????? they fukin destroyed Frost mods and the PvP frost builds taking a massive amount of damage and ruining the already over nerfed Frost builds. After this Frost will be basically useless like bounce was.
lol translations and this game, when they do these lists they should make them the same as the weapons and armour names in the game, i'm pretty sure there is nothing named The Last Courage in the game, there's the last valour and we could assume that the last courage is a typo for the last valour with it saying bullet fragmentation etc shrapnel.. I'm pretty sure translation issues they replaced valour with courage lol.. fyi it is valour in english, only americans with their backwards english say valor.. :)
dope video but they are just ruining the game even more for PvP , buff bingo and jaws. and just strip frost of all its strength.. people already roll out of it now its going to be weaker and ice crystals do less dmg to players smh and gave us 5% higher proc chance smh everyone still going to be running bingo/wildfire , bingo/jaws or gulp lore /jaws in this case. only buffs i see here are for PvE
okay i have problem understandin some stuff and im new to the game too,...but i normally go with JAWS unnstable bomber and i wanna change to somethin fun and more dmg wise (not wantin the bingo cause i suck with snipers) can some1 tell me whtat would be good to change now? i mean i wanna try somethin but im new an casual an dont have too much chroms to use thanks in advance
my issue with the bounce rework is its basically just diet shrapnel now. later I think they should give bounce weapons the ability to bounce shots off like the ground or walls so you can hit enemies behind cover or something and it'll just be called ricochet and it'll have a niche in pvp servers.
how is it diet shrapnel tho? imo shrapnel guns are a bit over hyped. (excuse my language), these guns are either S tier or F tier depending on how many parts your target has, while this bounce change, it doesn't matter if you're targeting bunch of mobs or a boss, AOE or single target will be good now, especially that kumawink + tattoo pants (considering you're gunning near or infront of the boss).
@@0Creates if you shoot a target with shrapnel it bounces to another body part, if you shoot a target with bounce it just bounces off the air or another target back into the thing you shot. only advantage a bounce build has is that it looks kind of cool to mow down hordes now and the single target dps is a bit better
I hope they hire someone who uses the same name of the guns from the game instead of translating it, it's terrible and I don't know which guns the list refers to with the translated names.
yea... if im not wrong you can prock the explosion every 1 second(or more of procks in that 1 second) if you build your stuff right.. but now 2 seconds cd.. the gun was bad enough to play with but now it's worse.. regret wasting my starcorm on that shit.. it's f tier now. Edit: I noticed now there are more crit&critdamage mod now.. so I guess we're gonna do crit build on fire build now.. dev don't want us to be an arsonist..
Now with that guns, will they bring back the strength of the Mobs? The game is getting dull because of their nerfs 9n the mobs.. getting lesser challenge and need for other player help..
Original post: qrsj.163.com/news/update/20241121/39491_1195150.html
This patch will come out in December 19th.
that link is in korean for me
@@absolim translate
That the original was in Chinese explains the weird names in the document you use in your video
@@Doomeris yeah well its fine for me. im in a german clan tho and they cant understand english^^ tyvm for responding though!
The Last Valor got a hugee buff/mechanic fix. Typically it takes 4 shots to trigger shrapnel, since crits count as two, the counter for shrapnel will carry over to the next shrapnel proc. So 3 non crits and one crit will trigger shrapnel and after that you’d only need to hit 3 non crits for the next shrapnel proc.
damn i didnt see someone got to it before me ... maybe build update????
As a brahminy user I don't really understand these translations, but I'm still using it reguardless.
Thanks for going through all of that. I had so much faith in bounce and am happy to see it get some attention
last courage is scar its means if u hit 3 normal shot or 1 crit and 1 normal shot and then the next shot is crit it will trigger shrapnel and then u need 3 hits not 4 again since the crit counts as 2 out of 4 hits to trigger shrapnel
they can afford to buff everything because the enemies are so bullet spongy
Bingo Feels Way Smoother to use Now and the Quck Scope thing is way faster than before, its a huge buff for bingo
yay me precious bingo
server desync fucks you anyway and it gets stuck a lot
last thing bingo needed was a buff lmao, yay to being 2 tapped
@@Happns yeah.. it happens to me alot since I play with 300ms but since the update it's occurring less than before and my dps seems pretty consistent than before as well
18:14 - Deep Deflagration was probably intended for Crank, but I cannot WAIT to see how this goes with my beloved Dual Fury. I sacrificed all my crank frags to make it 5* because nothing compares to the joy of setting myself on fire
not just crank, dual fury too, pyroclasm too
I was prepping to run a bounce build next season and now I need to rethink strategies
@10:05 According to the chinese interpretation of the original post, It is actually a buff: The line starts with +20% blaze damage without any requirement. Reloading still consumes all 4 orbs and each orb gives +8%, so that's +52% blaze damage from max orbs reload.
Honestly I don't see them nerfing Pyroclasm anymore than the way it currently is, in within the shotgun department it's already stomped hard by Doombringer in every aspect as is.
happy frost vortex is getting a buff.. I'm still using Doom's Icyrain build
Wait, this rework & buffs didn't just go into effect today, it's not till Dec 19th????
correct
5:57 F in chat
14:00 ice blocks count as enemies when you destroy them, you're welcome
great patch overall, i like these smal buffs to everything that sucks patch, let's see how my bounce and frost builds work now
12:06 I think "The Last Courage" is the SOCR Last Valor and I think the change is saying if the count is at 3 and you crit, shrapnel used to proc and reset to 0 since it would be 5, but now the extra crit keeps the extra count and carries over as 4+1 so you start the next cycle at 1.
I honestly expected a nerf, but I'll take a buff as someone still building up and new to the game.
The Last Courage is SOCR The Last Valor, the Shrapnel AR
Shrapnels going brrr since crit counts as 2 hit and the counter start from 1 instead of 0
Yeah. So it looks like by starting the counter at 1 instead of 0 it will smooth out the damage more for the times you may not crit. I don't think in theory its a big buff, but may smooth out bad rng a bit on the noncrit hits.
So its nerf or buff? I dont really understand
@@SuratiAdi Buff, but i think minor to decent buff. Won't know until testing.
@@jayd6372i see, thank you
Literally nothing changed for pvp with Bingo/Wildfire still be vastly overpowered just now you’re even more pigeonholed in to having to use them because Jaws can’t even counter it now. Actual dog shit changes for the PvP side…..
They need to nerf the boots specifically, not the 2 guns
why nerf a fun build? they only nerf the annoying stagger of bomber
@@skympii6734 Oneshot fun?
yeah exactly what i said , gave bingo a buff with the speed of the OTS aiming increased and just nerfed frost for PvP so now really only guns left is bingo / wildfire / jaws lmao shits cooked yo devs actually dont even play their own game
@@skympii6734 If by fun you mean oneshot bullshit….. it needs to be nerfed in PvP, it can stay the same in PvE
With the changes to fire mod i think that might be more for the new fire M416 and maybe the fire HAMR crumble sniper, either way they are still below average guns the fire damage just takes to long on them.. They should add a dragons breath impact effect after a certain amount of shots to all fire weapons without having to collect them balls, similar to shrapnel effect or bounce on impact but with dragon breath damage instead in addition to the existing fire damage, then fire guns would be fun to use.. If enough people say they want it then the devs might change fire guns to give us a dragon breath bullet impact dmg on all fire weapons.. :)
Bounce in OH is like Magic Arrow in Diablo 2
Last Courage is SOCR the Last Valor
I read the post first then come across your video. I really thought the upcoming buff for Conflicting Memories is juiciest unless I misunderstood the translation.
Let me know if math checks out:
At 166 magazine size:
Old:
166-100=66
66/15=4.4 ~4
4*8= 32% Shrapnel Damage
New
166-90=76
76/15=5.066 ~5
5*10= 50% Shrapnel Damage
18% Buff on Shrapnel Damage just on the change alone.
Any changes about Bingo? Or I missed something?
Thats what i need, gonna build some oncommon weaps...just to be not bored
too many fun build to do!
They didnt touched the corrosion? thank god
I was considering moving to corrosion over pryoclasm, but with the change, I'm not too sure.
Corrosion still broken
No need to change
Uhhhhhgggggg just because i don't use jaws and bingo like every other Meta chaser I'm getting punished again. This is so frustrating it's crazy. Head Guard is completely useless for my build now, before it was it only thing keeping me viable. This sucks. I've wanted balancing since launch, but this is gonna punish me again. Holy hell. Smh
Bro like 20 builds just got buffed and you still playing some dogshit? thats a skill issue fr, nothing to do with meta chasing. You actively trying to stay in the dirt.
Cool changes! Thank you devs!
Silent Anabasis is already amazing, especially when paired with the Snow Camo gloves.
Finaly Bounce will be useful
imagine bouncing bullet to mass enemy, that look amazing
If they don't fix the lag with these fire/ice effects. Get ready for massive lags, during public events.
Thanks for this guide. Can you add some text to the names next time? The translation and what kind of gun is really confusing and have to pause many times just to get what gun was changed.
I'm hitting 99k with the Silent Anabasis with your Crit build. Looking forward to your elemental build version.
What!? how? the explosion of ice spikes or actual bullets?
@@DictatorJayy probably his total damage on dummy after firing for 5 mins lol
@@DictatorJayy idk, it seems the crystals are self exploding now without having to shoot them.
@@rjgeigersmusic No, it's 99k dps. That's my spike per second and it levels out in the 80k range per second.
Good thing I had a calibrate plus 10 anabis with elemental in my crates lol
My silent is gonna be stronger. Love it!
Wait dude which one do u think is the best for Frost build , is it snowsprite or jellyfish ?
I think you misunderstood the Dusty rework description, it's not 30% for body and increased by 65% on weakspot, it's increased to 65% on weakspot, so a flat out buff
yeah, but on left side it says 55%. left side is what was old buff.
new buff on the right side, why is the 30% included then ? Why not just leave the 65% when hitting weakspots.
Properly translated it says it triggers 30% on a hit. If you hit a weakspot it increases to 65%.
@Doomeris that's pretty much how I was reading it. was commenting mostly on you seeming confused whether or not it increased *by* 65% or *to* 65%, and I'm almost certain it's the later. overall straight buff; better chance to trigger Shrap on a weakspot hit, and normal hits aren't completely useless.
Ice crystals no longer homing in on enemies? Does anyone else experience this?
Yup same. Not a happy camper.
Damn they are so scared to fix the bingo cancel animation bug ,its stupid now pvp is just bingo fiesta
So what are the top 3 best builds after this patch?
bingo , wildfire , jaws... for PvP nothings changed except they erased the idea of frost for PvP now smh its a joke
Corrosion is still great too, idk why but i always seem to out damage good (those ppl with proper mod substats) Jaws users in PvE content.
@KyleNasaFilm damn alright would of been nice to see a change but I guess ill stick with jaws since I'm comfortable with it
@7七hconvict haven't looked into corrosion too much but I been using jaws since release date for pvp. I hope they add some new changes to change it up a bit.
12:08 that weapon its the legendary scar
Let's cooking doomeris! Waiting for new meta build you got.
so what build to use now ?.im switching between jaws and wild fire for difrent bosses sometimes memento
Ok so no Silent Anabasis for this season 25/11, ill wait for next season. :)
Can't find this link anywhere on their site. Did they take it down?
Pls talk to dev's to redo the handling vehicles, they destroyed them...
Are you going to update your silent anabasis build?
eventually
The changes to Butterfly just seem to make it the same as the Blue Butterfly. Is there no point searching for the blue one now?
no because blue syncing will give you 6% weapon damage and vulnerability.
while red one wont
What the hell do you mean "thank god they didn't nerf any of the guns" ?????? they fukin destroyed Frost mods and the PvP frost builds taking a massive amount of damage and ruining the already over nerfed Frost builds. After this Frost will be basically useless like bounce was.
Salutation doomeris. Respect for your work
I do not get can I believe in numbers in this video. Maybe petter to wait when it will be released
I'm new to these gun names ..
lol translations and this game, when they do these lists they should make them the same as the weapons and armour names in the game, i'm pretty sure there is nothing named The Last Courage in the game, there's the last valour and we could assume that the last courage is a typo for the last valour with it saying bullet fragmentation etc shrapnel.. I'm pretty sure translation issues they replaced valour with courage lol.. fyi it is valour in english, only americans with their backwards english say valor.. :)
Yo , what they do with silo ! This devs are sick ...
I didn't understand the info of the pyroclasm, is good or down to the grown?
it's good.
No power surge love again.
I was expecting also they make differences
hi which is the best weapon for ice vortex is it iceyrain or m416?
Does the original bounce bounces back to the same target?
The T is silent in richochet
Silent Anabasis build when?
hmm also wird das Silent Anabasis ice build total schwach gemacht. mit den eiskristallen?
when will this be?
dope video but they are just ruining the game even more for PvP , buff bingo and jaws. and just strip frost of all its strength.. people already roll out of it now its going to be weaker and ice crystals do less dmg to players smh and gave us 5% higher proc chance smh everyone still going to be running bingo/wildfire , bingo/jaws or gulp lore /jaws in this case. only buffs i see here are for PvE
okay i have problem understandin some stuff and im new to the game too,...but i normally go with JAWS unnstable bomber and i wanna change to somethin fun and more dmg wise (not wantin the bingo cause i suck with snipers) can some1 tell me whtat would be good to change now? i mean i wanna try somethin but im new an casual an dont have too much chroms to use
thanks in advance
Last courage is Scor last valor ?
There is no buff or nerf for outer space, right? power surge build?
no
my issue with the bounce rework is its basically just diet shrapnel now. later I think they should give bounce weapons the ability to bounce shots off like the ground or walls so you can hit enemies behind cover or something and it'll just be called ricochet and it'll have a niche in pvp servers.
kinda agree, but atleast it bounces from target to target so you have to do less aiming :D
how is it diet shrapnel tho? imo shrapnel guns are a bit over hyped. (excuse my language), these guns are either S tier or F tier depending on how many parts your target has, while this bounce change, it doesn't matter if you're targeting bunch of mobs or a boss, AOE or single target will be good now, especially that kumawink + tattoo pants (considering you're gunning near or infront of the boss).
@@0Creates if you shoot a target with shrapnel it bounces to another body part, if you shoot a target with bounce it just bounces off the air or another target back into the thing you shot.
only advantage a bounce build has is that it looks kind of cool to mow down hordes now and the single target dps is a bit better
I hope they hire someone who uses the same name of the guns from the game instead of translating it, it's terrible and I don't know which guns the list refers to with the translated names.
wow... kvd boom boom tier C now, yes?
yea... if im not wrong you can prock the explosion every 1 second(or more of procks in that 1 second) if you build your stuff right.. but now 2 seconds cd.. the gun was bad enough to play with but now it's worse.. regret wasting my starcorm on that shit.. it's f tier now.
Edit: I noticed now there are more crit&critdamage mod now.. so I guess we're gonna do crit build on fire build now.. dev don't want us to be an arsonist..
damn, Dec 19 xD so long
Mr octopus 🐙🐙🐙🐙
ejecteris
Now with that guns, will they bring back the strength of the Mobs? The game is getting dull because of their nerfs 9n the mobs.. getting lesser challenge and need for other player help..
I do like playing solo though.. but i want the feeling of needing help from other player even if i want to play solo..
So little jaws is gonna be good now?
yeah
doomeris going to be busy
… no today huh..
nothing for power surge??
Live please
last courage = last valor?
Rick-o-shit lol
how do you mess up translations so badly once human devs...
the last courage = socr last valor btw
the original website is on chinese, he used machine translation thats why its so bad
Are this changes to be implemented or already live? I still have to get home to play someone tell me plz
The changes are not yet implemented. This is for the Dec 19 update.
december 19 will be there
@@fernie6299 thank you.
@@Doomeris Thanks a lot for the info.
ok then i still use my bingo 6 star lol
Whats up with those names ?
translation
0082?
Gradle 😂
Link
frost vortex meta is coming!
Its the first weapon blueprint i bought from the wish machine months ago. Happy to see it buffed. Such a fun weapon.
thank god for nerf stupid mod😂
niceris
noice
make doombringer great again😅
it is great..