Don't Buy Paint Storage, DO THIS!
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2022
- It's safe to say I'm not the best when it comes to DIY. This weekend I decided to finally tackle something I've wanted to do for a while and build a paint rack that will house all my extra paints. While it turned out ok in the end, there were plenty of mistakes along the way and I almost ruined my weekend with DIY. If you're building one yourself, don't make my mistakes.
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I want to like the video but its currently at 666 likes and I cant be the one to mess with that
That makes total sense, I appreciate this comment. Now we just need this comment to get 69 likes and the world is complete.
If it's soft wood you always need to drill it with a bit smaller than the screw. Then run the screws in. That will keep it from cracking and splintering.
Yeah, lessons learnt for the future
Was just about to post the same statement.
I catch myself doing that too. Even when my drill and bit are sitting right next to me. Doesn't take much time and it makes all the difference.
This last weekend I actually added a shelf to my space with nail polish racks. They hold every paint bottle great.
For the longest time I had a desk and wanted a paint rack on a wall but there was no wall where I could fit my desk in the garage. So what I ended up doing was taking a big piece of pine wood from my massive pile of spare wood and drilled it into the side of desk.
I love having the pine because it brightens up the space really well. I have so much more space now on my desk top. Needed to happen.
Sorry for the essay but last thought. When I catch myself rushing a project I remind myself. Take time now and be methodical because I'll be looking at it for a very long time and shoddy work really bothers me when I have to be reminded of it every day or when I'm trying to focus on my hobby.
With that knowledge, you MUST be an American.
This video is really refreshing. No fancy workshop, no expensive tools, minor mistakes, but in the end, works just like intended and looks great.
hahahaha, if it works it works :)
Split wood. Drill pilot hole before screws
No nonsense what so ever, this is exactly what I was about to comment. Word for word 😂
Just gonna say the same thing 😂
Good to see some handy folks that noticed the same ans rushed to Comment lol
As a hobby wood worker, in addition to an extremely new and inexperienced miniature painter, I can tell you that I have a shop with thousands of dollars worth of power tools, fasteners and equipment. But at least you have at least one thing that I don't, and that is a perfectly functional and great looking paint rack for your paints! Great job.
Haha, thank you very much :)
Well... it is certainly sturdy. Lovely cat. 😻
hahaha
This was such a laugh! It's a refreshing thing to see a UA-camr actually show struggle and make mistakes. No fancy workshops and shopping lists of expensive tools and supplies. It's so accurate to 90% of us out there who'd just wing it 😂
Honestly, my track record for DIY is to spend a fortune on all the bits, all the tools, sketching out plans and stuff, then just never getting around to it. So probably never would have actually made anything! That said, I would probably have tried to have slimmer shelves and frame to save on weight and space. Might have had them standing upright and tilted forward a little bit with a lip so they don't fall out and make them more clustered together.
Looks great, being that chunky it should last a very long time. If you do another project like this my tip would be by drilling a small pilot hole where you are going to put a screw will stop the wood from splitting.
Yeah a few people have mentioned that. Defo learnt for the future.
Having just built an entire workbench, with only a janky old jigsaw, I feel this, in my pores. Much empathy and sympathy. Hey! Your rack is complete, and functional; that goes in the "W" column 👍
hahaha thanks man
As someone who has just bought a house and is also shit at DIY you've given me hope I can build my own dream set up lol loving the vids lately!
Thanks very much, always happy to entertain :)
Afew years ago I decided to make myself a paint rack. I basically made a frame from 15mm thick planks, then nailed on a backing from 2mm thick mdf and I used a slightly smaller mdf board to be the ''facing'' of the rack arranged to sit about 40mm from the backing. In Adobe Illustrator I made a mock up of the layout of the circular holes that would host my Vallejo bottles. I marked the centre of each hole, then printed the mockup, layed it over the facing mdf and with a nail I tapped the positions of the centres of the circles I wanted cut out. Then I cut them using a drill with an annular cutter the ones with the diamond dust. The rack could fit over 200 Vallejo bottles. It was very nice and cheap to make BUT.......
Every summer usually Im moving to my summer house, so I have to take my hobby stuff with me. As always I forget to take something and its the ONE thing that I need. When there is no hobby store or even a decent art store around you need a portable solution. The fastest and cheapest solution was to buy some sturdy corrugated board boxes intended for comic book storage. They are impressively durable. Then I made some stackable trays from sturdy board. I can fit over 200 colors + primer bottles + small accessories in a quite small box around 35x 25 x 25 cm. It can be easily stored and when Im painting I can have the trays out to see all the colors.
Guess what. When I returned from vacations the colors never left that box. Its way more practical than a wall rack that takes valuable space.
PS I see an Ibanez (Universe?) in the background. You sir are a man of culture and good taste!
Sounds like a great solution. I don't often go to my local store to paint. On the occasions I do I just take something simple and a few colours. Lucky enough to have a case from Frontier Wargaming too. That is a great bit of DIY advice though. And yeah, I have an Ibanez RG series, it's my baby.
Only advice I have is drill some pilot holes get a jigsaw make your life easier and for stronger joints use a pocket hole they are great for right angle joints and if you want to attach it to the wall I'm sure it would be fine if you used proper raw plugs and brackets
Cheers for the tips :)
Finally saw this in my feed. If you haven't already, I strongly suggest covering the tops of the caps on your paint bottles with the paint itself so that you have an accurate, dried color reference facing you.
Great tip :)
Aww yea Pickle, homemade paint shelves !
You have given me inspiration to use the spare Picket fence wood I have in the shed to build paint shelving too. Thankyou my friend 😀🤘💜💚💙
I've read through the comments and am amazed that not one person suggested pre-drilling holes. Glad I'm able to be the very first to suggest this.
Glad someone suggested it! Surprised no one else did
I actually like the thicker wood. It creates a pleasant gap between your line of paints allowing enough room for some decorative labels so you can 5S them rather than haphazardly looking for a specific color. :-)
As for attaching to the wall, I would make a French Cleat for it. You can have the DIY store rip a couple pieces of 12mm plywood into strips with a 45° bevel and hang it on your wall. Make sure you put another strip of 12mm at the bottom to keep it off the wall. That cleat should be plenty strong if you drill it into studs.
Oh! And pre-drill them holes mate. That’ll fix the splitting issues.
French cleats are so underrated!
@@Himle_ absolutely! So many use cases
Great advice, will look into it and see what I can do
I swear by Velcro for just securing something easy like that. Not the full weight of course, but just to help hold it. If your walls are smooth! Turned out great btw! Good job you two!
I made "steps" from 2x4's. Simple cuts, weights a ton, but doesn't move around. Made 280 bottle rack for under $5 US. Does take up space on the desk but totally worth it.
That's my problem, I don't have a tonne of desk space as it is. Kudos on your build though!
I always pre-drill my holes slightly smaller than the size of the screw so it is less likely to split and still gives the screw plenty to grab.
Great project and I will likely use bits of this as inspiration for my own!
Happy to have inspired, just don't use the bits I did wrong haha
My wife suggested using 1/2 a wooden pasting table as the frame. Add shelving with thinner wood, voila!
That’s genius!
Other than using the saw correctly and using clamps you’ve done a bang up job.
Thanks very much :)
I personally use nail polish racks. They fit most mini paint pots. They come with screws or you can use sticky velcro tape to hold them up.
Nail polish racks were my second choice tbf, but I do like a bit of DIY...even if I'm bad at it
Great vid thanks. Love the idea of using foam core for the backing. Much cheaper than thin plywood. Only thing I would have done differently is to drill small pilot holes for the screws first. Stops it splitting.
Yeah, cheaper and lighter. Cheers for the pilot hole advice too :)
Thank you for your content Mate. I am a U.S Special Forces Operator well retired now. I got into the hobby to help me get back to living a normal life without combat. I served 24yrs. I wanted to say next time you build another paint rack and notice your wood is splitting drill pilot holes into your wood. Cheers Mate. From your friend across the "pond" also I want to shout out to Loki the cat! Love seeing Loki on your vids! I have a cat that looks almost identical! His name is Comanche among other 4 letter words. Lol
Thanks for commenting dude, always nice to hear from our friends across the pond. Glad you like the content and I'll pass on your compliments to Loki haha
@@ThePickleJar lol cats man. Lol
Some quick tips for your next DIY Pickle.
When you saw, take full strokes, it's much more efficient than limiting yourself to about 7 teeth. You'll get shagged much less fast.
When you screw wood together, drill appropriate sized pilot holes. Then the wood won't split.
Also buy some clamps.
Cheers for the advice, will defo remember it in the future
I love that THAT was the saw your neighbor gave you.
"Oh honey, the neighbor is here, he was wanting you use one of you saws."
"Wot? I've seen how that sod treats his tools, he been looking alover his garden for his i bet... give him the blue handled one..."
Hahahaha
Good job, at least you went and did something. Paint and putty are your friends in woodworking.
Get yourself a couple of small L brackets and drywall screws to mount it to the wall. If you can find the studs you could even get 4 and mount above and below (heck you could cut slits in the posterboard and mount pairs on several of the shelves for extra support). As for the thickness of the wood, for anyone considering doing one themselves, the frame is probably good, but you could certainly go thinner for the shelves ... though depending on just how thin, you might want a vertical brace in the middle (or maybe two braces at thirds if you use really thin wood, or make the shelf considerably wider. A second benefit to thinner shelves would be more rows of paint. I'd check prices on trim as that's already going to be finished on 3 sides so you could probably skip the sanding & painting stage except on the frame.
That’s a tonne of useful advice. I’m sure I’ll be building more shelving in the future so always good to have ideas for improvement
looks fantastic, when you said about Wendy doing the sawing and you were going to help, I thought you were going to say you went and made a cup of tea for you both
I think I'd have been better off doing that tbh haha
@@ThePickleJar I only know from trying to help my wife lol
Ahahaha
tip for next time, if you dont have self tapping screws you can predrill a slightly smaller (pilot) hole to make sure the wood doesn't split when you put the screw in.
Your projects remind me a lot of my own, I inherited tools from my pops who wasnt the most organized man, so most of the time when i start a project I usually end up relying on tools that are nearby over what is actually meant for the job.
Yeah, mend and make do is very much a moto I live by
I’m just happy to watch someone else approach DIY like I do!!! 🤣 Seriously though, the end result looks great.
Thank you!! 😊
As at least one other has said, pre-drilling the holes will help a lot with the splintering and cracking issue. Sharp saws also help a lot. ;)
Haha. Great advice with the saw 😅
I'm proud that you had a go but we definitely need to level up your man skills 😂
What are you implying? haha
Massively respect how humble you were in the video regarding your DIY skills but with that said, you’ve actually done a perfectly good job. So long as you can stand back and look at it with pride, all the minor imperfections are meaningless. Ironically not too different from painting a miniature really! Great work and I’m about to make myself one today.
Nice little project, and hey, everyone has to learn what not to do, it's all in the experience. But it's my opinion that its better to do it yourself even if you fail, as I enjoy making things. Those sentences sounded better in my head, and hopefully my point came across and it just didn't come out as rambling, lol.
For using screws, it always beneficial to use a smaller that the screw itself size drillbit to pre-drill wholes for the screws to go into. This will help out emensly when putting the screws in, and it takes some of the pressure off the wood as the screw tries to take up space.
And I think you did a great job, it looks pretty good.
Cheers for the kind words and advice!
Projects that do not work out for us teach us the most. At the end of the day, no matter what measures or difficulties, the paint shelf is built.
Exactly :)
This is a very entertaining video with how everything went wrong, but I'm glad to see it turned out really good
Thanks very much!!
Honestly pretty refreshing for a hobbyist to show all the mistakes along the way!
Never understood why most UA-cam hobbyists act like they get everything right first time.
Great vid dude, I use nail polish racks I have two. If I built one though I would have it so the bottles stand up label facing out instead of lid facing out.
I was tempted to have them stood up but I'd not have been able to fit as much on if I had done.
I love watching these paint storage builds because I have been able to be inspired to build something similar to each of them, combining different aspects. I like your tower against the wall look. Agreed with you that materials could have been thinner to save on weight. Also wall mounting hardware would have helped. As well, I saw someone using trim molding to create a visual angle to see the paints better for access. I will be utilizing my carpentry degree to make something. All that time spent in school I better! And I wont pile on with the "pilot hole" comment since everyone else seems to have pointed that out. Nice work for not having many tools.
Good job! Thanks for the deep dive.
pointing something at the back of something and pushing a button
that sounds like an execution 😂😂😂😂
bahahaha
@@ThePickleJar great content and production quality good sir!
Looks good Josh. You could get a couple of L-brackets just to hold it to the wall. I would have used thinner wool and just hardboard for the back but ive got nowhere to put one like that. At the moment i used a Vallejo paints corner unit, a 3d printed rack and a mdf rack from Etsy. However, i do have a metric feck ton of paints not on display lol
I like the idea of the corner racks, they just wouldn't hold the full range and take up loads of desk space
I know this is a little too late for this specific project, but you can pretty easily prevent wood from splitting by pre-drilling a hole for every screw. just take a drill bit that is a bit smaller than the screw, line up the pieces and make sure the drill goes into both pieces of wood. you need to make room for the screw, or the expansion causes the piece to split.
Aye, I'm beginning to see from the comments here that I have much to learn haha
haha! i will follow every one of these steps EXACTLY to the letter.
I did pretty much the exact same thing and mine has been going strong for I think about 5 years now. If you decide to mount it to the wall, I'd recommend screwing a cross piece to the wall for it to "sit" on at the bottom to take the weight, and then anchoring it at the top with some small L brackets. This way all the weight is spread across the bar you put at the bottom, rather than on the screws in the shelves.
That’s a good shout! I think I’ll end up making a new one later this year/next year as I get more paint, so will leave wall mounting until then
simple tip when you want to screw wood together drill the hole first to prevent the wood from splitting.
Thanks for the great tip :)
Oof. My handyman side made me sad. Lol
The wood split due to pressure. Your suppose to do a pilot hole to help the screw go in and to prevent the wood from splitting. Getting a drill bit with a counter sink is your best friend. Lol
Watching the process of you making this paint rack was humorous, horrible, hysterical and fantastically entertaining!😂
And I must say the end result wasn’t half bad. Nice work, Josh! And thanks for yet another entertaining video! I really enjoy your work😁
Thanks so much, always nice to hear positive comments like this :)
lol cringeworthy yet inspired me to make a better video with proper techniques.i wont. but it was entertaining!
Good work! Simple and super effective!
All successful diy projects require 3 trips to the hardware store and a blood sacrifice.
It is known
Poor cat is probably thinking how the hell he manages to open the cat food cans ^^ but kudos to you for doing this and sharing this :) I'm sure it was a great learning experience.
hahahaha, she always doubts me
I built one like this with craft wood, trim, wood glue and a hacksaw.. mine was designed for them to stand up to and is certainly not up to par for Pro Acryl.. thankfully wood glue is usually strong enough to hold the weight of paint bottles without much help.. always do it how you know.. much like painting you get new skills and knowledge through the mistakes..
Hey, if it does the job it does the job
My paint stand is made from foam board held together with skewers tape and spare cutting vinyl its rather full though and sits on the floor to my left when I'm painting
Sounds like a really nice simple way of building one tbf. How much paint can that hold?
Fighting the urge not to cover everything in my computer room with blankets and towels while I watch you guys saw and sand wood indoors
I made a storage chest like this once. Go to DIY shop. Buy many pieces of board. Have vague plan. At least yours came out looking respectable! Mine is a nightmare even after painting. Cheers!
But it's yours, and that's what matters
At least one of you knows how to build stuff =) Also if you have a way to find studs, I would suggest looking at a french cleat hanging system for it, they will hold hundreds of pounds, you can still take it down if you need to and they are pretty easy to install. The hardware stores in the US have metal cleat systems you just screw on to the project on one side and the wall on the other.
I should always just listen to Wendy 😅
As a married man I can attest this is the correct answer, even if it is wrong =)
Nice job mate, mine are mostly in a GW paint case or trays
Nice, organising is half the battle
Tightbond II (wood glue) and clamps are your friend for these sorts of projects - you can completely forego the screws, unless you're storing this project outside for some reason.
The wood glue is a good shout!
Interesting technique - discovering all of the potential pitfalls by falling victim to them.
Haha, learn through mistakes, it’s the best way
Honestly there is nothing better than being a completely idiot and DIY and somehow ending up with a more than working solution. Good Job.
Looking good mate. I have made similar things with lighter wood. And hardboard in the back. Drill a pilot hole to stop your wood splitting, but other than that it looks spot on. My Contrast paint is stored in the bottoms of kitten food boxes . These are in my writing bureau...aka my painting desk. I did buy a couple of mdf racks for the Dropper bottles as they fitted on top of the desk. I chose these over my own made one as it is jn the lounge and are a bit more discrete.
Only issue I've had with MDF racks for droppers in the past is how flimsy they are. Which make did you get?
@@ThePickleJar hi Josh, I got mine from Colour Forge made of 3mm MDF. Totally solid when superglued together. Mine holds 24 Dropper bottles. Hope that helps.
The saw was .....sub-optimal.... I laughed my A- - off!
I mean, it was!
I have done far too much cutting with saws similar to this, you have my commiserations! Your overall DIY approach is so similar mine - leap in, buy too much or too little (realise that once knee deep in the project), while also realising that my tools are not quite what I need but could possibly do in a pinch. Make do with the not great tools, rather than go and source a more appropriate tool. Repent later and remind myself that it is actually always worth finding the right tool for the job. Forget all those lessons by the time I do another DIY project.
Short version - this is my ADHD life…
Hehehe as I get further into this I see we also have another commonality - a slightly judgemental cat 😂😻
Hahaha, that about sums up my DIY skills yeah 😅
I 3D printed 6 dropper bottle racks for the paints i currently have.
Nice!
Nice job and heavy duty looking. Well done. I like the guitar also..... and most importantly, how much does Wendy charge if I need a hand...
Philip
NYC / Jersey Shore Area
I love it, especially since it was a challenge for you both. Nicely done, it's a success. Now figure out how to mount it - you might not care today, but you will the first time it falls over.
That's actually a lot better than the one I tried to build. 😅
Doesn't have to be fancy as long as it does its job :)
I use Talon 22mm pipe clips from screwfix @ £4.00 for 100. I just screwed them to a sheet of MDF and place my paints upside down in them. Total cost around £10
That's a genious idea! I might steal that if (when) I need to expand haha
Looking at the rows of paint, only thing i can think of differently would have been to have the store employees bevel the slats so there is an inward slope that kind of helps to keep the paint from toppling off. Otherwise it looks great man, definetly a solid shelf lmao
Well done! Grit is usually printed on the paper side of the sandpaper.
Ahhh, that's what those numbers are haha
It's all good and well all the people suggesting drilling pilot holes but I see two problems. One, if you couldn't find a saw, could you find a drill and bits, two, adding extra power tools to a project never really seems to make it go any smoother when I've done it.
A good build, and if only one or two bits split, I'd call that a win.
It didn’t bother me much as the shelves are all covered with the paint on then anyway, so you can’t see the couple of splits
I used backing board from an old bookcase for mine and I too didn't measure up resulting in some shelves fit contrast paint some don't, and i also have paint bottles sat on top of the thing because its was too small to fit all my paint on
If it does the job it does the job :)
I like your project alot. about how may paints can you hold in that?
I like the unit. It is important to ask someone at your DIY store about timber good to use and access the walls before going to the store. But otherwise, it is a really good unit that you and Wendy built.
Looks great! Everyone starts somewhere. I would suggest to use a French bracket and fix it to the wall, nice and secure. I love the channel!
Thanks very much :)
always pre-drill pine, or any "white wood" they just split, its their jam.
Sounds like a lot of my DIY projects. I figure any proper DIY project requires at least 3 trips to the store and one new tool.
Oh yeah, predrilling your screw holes will help keep the wood from splitting. Drill a hole that smaller than the screw diameter so it still has something to grip, but it doesn't have to push as much material out of the way when it goes in.
Not mounting it on the wall was probably the right call. If you had tried to hang it from the foam board backer, it would have just ripped right off the wall.
This is a best cursed DIY I’ve seen for 2023 😂 thank you for sharing the mishaps and process along the way, those mistakes we all learn from. I always forget I need clamps
I don't know many other people using turbo dork, can i ask what medium you use to thin it? i use standard thinner but feel like its reducing the pearlescent effect
I’ve used them a couple of times and both times I just used the same water I use for all other airbrush thinning. 150ml squirt bottle filled with water and a drop of washing up liquid. I have a video where I paint the Necron void dragon using them :)
@@ThePickleJar ty, ill check out the video.
my plan is to buy/salvage plastic pipe and cut into 2 inch lengths, plywood backing and a wood frame
Not a bad shout that
chunky isn't a bad thing, less likely to bow over time, good work :)
hahaha thank you :)
I found some vertical cosmetics racks for nail varnish on amazon which are the perfect size for the 17ml dropper bottles and pretty cheap, but I still haven't brought myself to buy them, since I got this nagging feeling in the back of my head that I could probably do it worse and for more money myself... but I would probably like it more too...
I have very quickly outgrown this paint rack, now having more than double the amount of paint, and I'm sat wondering how to solve my new storage issue haha
Didn’t think things out then? Also when using the saw use the full length of the blade, it’ll be more efficient and cut faster. To stop the wood cracking, drill pilot holes, but you probably don’t have a drill or bits.
Planning? What's that? Cheers for the feedback and advice though :)
Do you have a file svg you could share w me for the mdf paint files??
The ones I use for my citadel paints? They aren't my design I'm afraid, they're from Charlie Foxtrot Models
Trial and error is a worthy journey ⚡️
This video has no right to be as popular as it is hahahaha
Screw a bracket into the wall at the top? Tape of any kind might atrophy over time.
Aye, some sort of bracket might be a good shout
'My wood is too thicc!'
Modern gamer problems.
bahahaha
I would 10/10 watch this show on TV. Lol 😂
Man is bad at life, watch as he slowly loses his mind and everyone else loses all respect for him
I use 10ltr boxes from a company called "Really Useful Boxes" they are ideal for figures and paints as they are stackable.
I use IKEA Skådis pegboard and 3d printed shelves, perfect for army painter and vallejjo :)
That's a really good shout actually!
@@ThePickleJar Thank you for the reply! Enjoying your content alot mate!
I love your cat. She looks like a bandit.
FYI you could have avoided screws and just used wood glue. Looks great now though.
Some people use nail polish racks to hold paint.
Nail polish racks were the other option I looked at but would have cost loads more for less storage. Wood glue tip is a good one though, good shout
pre drill a little hole (smaller than screw) before put the screw in :p , no splits and splinters ;)
you should pre drill 1 by 2 it will stop it slitting. if you do want it on the wall grab some L brackets the same length as the wood, paint black and you could hide them by putting them up side down at the top like a 7 and L at the bottom, put them on the wall first then screw them to the shelf it will hold nicely use about 4 2 at the top 2 at the bottom hope that helps. i use ikea picture shelfs i will be making a 3D model so there stepped but it works fine atm
Thanks for the suggestions!
dont even need one since i use a old shelf for mine but if it breaks i have an idea now good video
:)
It looks nice! Definitely would have been better with thinner shelves, but 20/20 hindsight is something we all end up with when doing this stuff 🙂And thanks for checking out my Knight at the store today!
Yeah that’s it. I’m sure I’ll be building more in the future. No problem on the knight dude, looked sick!
To fix the splintering of the wood, drill a smaller pilot hole first. It's a pain, and takes a while but you wont get splintering
Aye, lesson learnt for the future
Great work mate. I’m utterly hopeless at DIY although I did manage to re-seal my shower during lockdown and it hasn’t leaked so that is something at least! 😄🤣
Sounds like a win to me dude :)
Enjoyed the hell out of this, and really loved how relatable it is to my experience of DIY.
Edit - finished product looks great though, I must say. The chunky shelves look really premium.
Nice! One thing for next time, if no one’s mentioned it yet, is to pre-drill some screws for your holes so the cracks don’t wood.