I mean there are audio logs were mrs freeze litteraly confirms the JL we killed are clones by comparing Batman's dna that Lex got to his original dna. But at the same time she isn't sure but then there are other things like Barry in an audio log remembering that Boomerang cut his finger off while Evil Flash never mentioned it... I feel like that'd be something he would mention to joke about ya know. Anyways mrs Freeze goes on to say that these clones were imperfect they had the memories and personality of the original leaguers but easier to mind control. Confirming that the Original League resisted the control so Brainiac cloned them instead. And he brought their qualities and made them worse. Like Superman having real golden retriever/lap dog type energy or Batman playing super strategic yet willing to kill or Flash having a dark sense of humor after what Brainiac did to them. Also the bullet is there when you rescue John but then in his tube there is no more bullet hole. In the brainiac records it's also explained that Brainiac had killed all the other Justice League's on those other worlds at first it was mostly because he wasn't as calculating but later on he saw their uses but couldn't control them it was only with our League that he decided to start cloning but he did collect those other justice league members as we see in episode 1 season of Joker where in his comic story thing there are others trapped in pods who are being tested on. He took the clones bodies aswell so that he can see what went succesfull and copy it. Also they always planned the clone theory because the second the game was available there were already easter eggs hinting at Batman's return. And Brainiac doesn't have ressurection powers else he would revive his other selves.
The biggest proof to me that they aren't clones is that Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth restores The Flash's normal personality. If he was just an evil clone created by Brainiac he wouldn't even have the "good" original version in his mind, Brainiac would've just made him from the ground up totally evil. My guess is that they wanted to intentionally make it arbitrary with things like the recent Mrs. Freeze clone theory audio logs, but like so much else with the storytelling it wasn't executed very well. And I don't think it ultimately matters (assuming in their next game they follow up on this game's story) cause the real JL will still have to deal with the fallout and consequences of what the evil JL did, whether or not they actually did the evil deeds themselves they'll still get all the blame for them.
This can be explained by Brainiac creating their clones and giving them memories, and then adding brainwashing control to them. Because the cloned Alliance was not brainwashed at birth, they still needed to be controlled and given memories.
What also gives it away is that in the Lawless DLC, Lantern has the brainwashed eyes and voice. My thinking for why the Flash doesn’t have it is because of his own regeneration powers mixed with Brainiacs to help the process and he just woke up before Brainiac could put the brainwashing back on
Idk it’s just hard to say otherwise after the audio logs. I think the intention was always clones. It allowed rocksteady to have their cake(make a game about killing the league) and eat it too(still having a league to come back to and wash their hands of the destruction). Between the lantern ring working off of John, Superman eating shots from kryptonite, and the flash finger. It seems like they were clones from the start. Not to mention brainiac did make an army using their dna. Practically all of the enemy forces are imbued with league dna. Not a clone persay, but mixed with league members for sure. Especially considering your need Barry’s dna to tap into the speed force easily and John’s to use the ring. Cheaper and quicker to make than an army of pure JL clones. The memories that people are bringing up is simple. A clone doesn’t always have to be a blank slate. Look at the clone from invincible. He gets cloned and is always convinced he’s the real og version. If clone flash was made using Barry as a template he’d remember everything the original did. The overall reality is this games story has been a mess. There’s audio logs implying both possible outcomes. They are using what they had and piecing was together what they can. To me clone theory is the easiest hand wave they can do, without retconning the game going forward. The OGs come back, Diana is remade, and waller has them under her thumb. This allows a sequel to happen and we as players can actually root for the league. The public distrust would be high, but given the Lois recordings and can’t tell if the public is happy or sad that the league is back. Plus for as much of a disaster this game has been. It would be ten times worse to rug pull clone theory after just dropping a tape with one half baked episode left.
Yeah that’s true I don’t know if we will ever have a real answer it’s really up to interpretation and what you think is the right answer. I don’t think their clones but I understand the argument that maybe they are clones. Thanks for the comment!
If Braniac healed the Justice League on the different Elseworlds after they were killed by the Squad, how did they end up free from his control after their revival?
The corruption still is in them it’s just their able to control it since Freeze was able to break it. It’s sadly not explained in game but audio logs has the best explanation
The answer is that the only way to remove the brainwashing is to kill Brainiac who controls them. However, in the main storyline, neither the squad nor Wonder Woman can get close to Brainiac.
Probably they make them clone because the original story is scrapped since here were a lot of audio of flash and green lantern waking up early and talking about what they did but since the game flopped soo hard they are trying to do damage control so this game dont affect the status quo for future arkham game (kinda)
They were forced to stop production in March but lines were finished in 2020 that’s why we have audio and indicators of the flash and gl alive and out and about in metropolis according to Lois Lane. And their def not going to decannonize the game their rolling with what they got since all the additional audio logs are leaked online. If anything the next game will just be Justice League reusing the assets of this game and retelling the story to fill in gaps
@@PineappleSwae well reportedly rocksteady isn't making a justice league game next. And I do agree they won't decanonize since what was done is done but that doesn't meant everyone will be on the same page.
Yeah I’ve seen that I’m sure we will find out what is the next title in about a year. Since Sefton and Rocksteady teased their next game shortly after AK however we didn’t get an official reveal until July 2020 and trailer in August 2020. So hopefully Rocksteady can move fast to reestablish hype with their next title with whatever it is
@@PineappleSwae They (Warner bros) won’t decolonize it? …Tell that to the Snyderverse. Better yet tell that to James, he keeps changing what is and isn’t canon every 15 minutes.
You have access to all of it from the Audio logs but I think it would offered a lot more depth that the game desperately needed. Listen to the audio logs when you have the time and I’d just imagine that with cutscenes since Deathstrokes audio logs prove the JL is alive already and Lois talks about how the league are out in about in metropolis even though their not lol
Green laturn on the cliffside is what i use for the clone theory to be wrong. Also, not relevant to the discussion but do you know when store discounts change? Been trying to figure out how to use my Lex Coins
@@PineappleSwae I appreciate it homes. Not subscribed for some reason. Thought I was since I see your vids all the time. Doing that now. Keep up the good work
I mean there are audio logs were mrs freeze litteraly confirms the JL we killed are clones by comparing Batman's dna that Lex got to his original dna. But at the same time she isn't sure but then there are other things like Barry in an audio log remembering that Boomerang cut his finger off while Evil Flash never mentioned it... I feel like that'd be something he would mention to joke about ya know. Anyways mrs Freeze goes on to say that these clones were imperfect they had the memories and personality of the original leaguers but easier to mind control. Confirming that the Original League resisted the control so Brainiac cloned them instead. And he brought their qualities and made them worse. Like Superman having real golden retriever/lap dog type energy or Batman playing super strategic yet willing to kill or Flash having a dark sense of humor after what Brainiac did to them. Also the bullet is there when you rescue John but then in his tube there is no more bullet hole. In the brainiac records it's also explained that Brainiac had killed all the other Justice League's on those other worlds at first it was mostly because he wasn't as calculating but later on he saw their uses but couldn't control them it was only with our League that he decided to start cloning but he did collect those other justice league members as we see in episode 1 season of Joker where in his comic story thing there are others trapped in pods who are being tested on. He took the clones bodies aswell so that he can see what went succesfull and copy it. Also they always planned the clone theory because the second the game was available there were already easter eggs hinting at Batman's return. And Brainiac doesn't have ressurection powers else he would revive his other selves.
The biggest proof to me that they aren't clones is that Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth restores The Flash's normal personality. If he was just an evil clone created by Brainiac he wouldn't even have the "good" original version in his mind, Brainiac would've just made him from the ground up totally evil. My guess is that they wanted to intentionally make it arbitrary with things like the recent Mrs. Freeze clone theory audio logs, but like so much else with the storytelling it wasn't executed very well. And I don't think it ultimately matters (assuming in their next game they follow up on this game's story) cause the real JL will still have to deal with the fallout and consequences of what the evil JL did, whether or not they actually did the evil deeds themselves they'll still get all the blame for them.
Yeah I completely forgot about that! It’s such a cool moment in the story that had me puzzled from the very beginning but that’s a good point
This can be explained by Brainiac creating their clones and giving them memories, and then adding brainwashing control to them. Because the cloned Alliance was not brainwashed at birth, they still needed to be controlled and given memories.
The issue with using the comic lore is that the people making this game very likely didn't bother to take any of it into account.
What also gives it away is that in the Lawless DLC, Lantern has the brainwashed eyes and voice. My thinking for why the Flash doesn’t have it is because of his own regeneration powers mixed with Brainiacs to help the process and he just woke up before Brainiac could put the brainwashing back on
I've never once believed the clone theory. It's obvious it was just someone making excuses for the writers not doing any research.
Suicide Squad: Healing Comas the Justice League.
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Idk it’s just hard to say otherwise after the audio logs. I think the intention was always clones. It allowed rocksteady to have their cake(make a game about killing the league) and eat it too(still having a league to come back to and wash their hands of the destruction).
Between the lantern ring working off of John, Superman eating shots from kryptonite, and the flash finger. It seems like they were clones from the start. Not to mention brainiac did make an army using their dna. Practically all of the enemy forces are imbued with league dna. Not a clone persay, but mixed with league members for sure. Especially considering your need Barry’s dna to tap into the speed force easily and John’s to use the ring. Cheaper and quicker to make than an army of pure JL clones.
The memories that people are bringing up is simple. A clone doesn’t always have to be a blank slate. Look at the clone from invincible. He gets cloned and is always convinced he’s the real og version. If clone flash was made using Barry as a template he’d remember everything the original did.
The overall reality is this games story has been a mess. There’s audio logs implying both possible outcomes. They are using what they had and piecing was together what they can. To me clone theory is the easiest hand wave they can do, without retconning the game going forward. The OGs come back, Diana is remade, and waller has them under her thumb. This allows a sequel to happen and we as players can actually root for the league. The public distrust would be high, but given the Lois recordings and can’t tell if the public is happy or sad that the league is back.
Plus for as much of a disaster this game has been. It would be ten times worse to rug pull clone theory after just dropping a tape with one half baked episode left.
Yeah that’s true I don’t know if we will ever have a real answer it’s really up to interpretation and what you think is the right answer. I don’t think their clones but I understand the argument that maybe they are clones. Thanks for the comment!
If Braniac healed the Justice League on the different Elseworlds after they were killed by the Squad, how did they end up free from his control after their revival?
The corruption still is in them it’s just their able to control it since Freeze was able to break it. It’s sadly not explained in game but audio logs has the best explanation
The answer is that the only way to remove the brainwashing is to kill Brainiac who controls them. However, in the main storyline, neither the squad nor Wonder Woman can get close to Brainiac.
Nice SS theory video. Been back on grinding episode 7.. actually been fun returning 🔥 🎮
Probably they make them clone because the original story is scrapped since here were a lot of audio of flash and green lantern waking up early and talking about what they did but since the game flopped soo hard they are trying to do damage control so this game dont affect the status quo for future arkham game (kinda)
They were forced to stop production in March but lines were finished in 2020 that’s why we have audio and indicators of the flash and gl alive and out and about in metropolis according to Lois Lane. And their def not going to decannonize the game their rolling with what they got since all the additional audio logs are leaked online. If anything the next game will just be Justice League reusing the assets of this game and retelling the story to fill in gaps
@@PineappleSwae well reportedly rocksteady isn't making a justice league game next. And I do agree they won't decanonize since what was done is done but that doesn't meant everyone will be on the same page.
Yeah I’ve seen that I’m sure we will find out what is the next title in about a year. Since Sefton and Rocksteady teased their next game shortly after AK however we didn’t get an official reveal until July 2020 and trailer in August 2020. So hopefully Rocksteady can move fast to reestablish hype with their next title with whatever it is
@@PineappleSwae
They (Warner bros) won’t decolonize it?
…Tell that to the Snyderverse.
Better yet tell that to James, he keeps changing what is and isn’t canon every 15 minutes.
How many story content do you think we would have gotten per season? If this game was a hit
You have access to all of it from the Audio logs but I think it would offered a lot more depth that the game desperately needed. Listen to the audio logs when you have the time and I’d just imagine that with cutscenes since Deathstrokes audio logs prove the JL is alive already and Lois talks about how the league are out in about in metropolis even though their not lol
I been wondering if the whole thing was real and not some simulation from Amanda Waller in case if the justice league ever went rogue
That would be insane but leaked dialogue from the Flash makes it seem like their going to continue with what they started though
Do you know a good way to farm ninth metal resource.
Playing Finite Crisis there’s no cap in that season. While the other ones are capped at 5
Green laturn on the cliffside is what i use for the clone theory to be wrong. Also, not relevant to the discussion but do you know when store discounts change? Been trying to figure out how to use my Lex Coins
Yeah that makes sense. And nah I’m not sure when store discounts change I would just log on everyday and check when you can and go from there
@@PineappleSwae I appreciate it homes. Not subscribed for some reason. Thought I was since I see your vids all the time. Doing that now. Keep up the good work
Oh wow. Thank you so much!!!! I greatly appreciate it. Have a good day
Does it matter?
Nah not really I just like to speculate about it
Is pineappleswae a clone? Or did #MCH😔
Nah bro
#MCH
#MCH
At this point who cares, game sucked anyway.
Sorry you feel that way