You guys didn’t show the hand with Durrrr versus Ivey over I believe in the UK when they both had a straight but Tom had the higher straight and it was for quite a few million €. or Pounds, I forgot…”oh my Gawd!!”
No, it's a non committed convincing raise the way the hand played out because ENIGMA knows his hand on the river makes no sense and therefore Tom folds irregardless with air.... hopefully. 3x in all reality makes his play valueless because Tom irregardless is going to call or fold and I'm not saying that because Tom paired King's on the river. I never analyze that way, where most others do.....no different than Tom is up against quads and 3x....I would be saying to myself, "call... Tom.....CALL" .... because he or whoever is supposed to or should be calling because once again, all things being equal, the way the hand played out, nothing changes...ENIGMAS hand doesn't make sense. All things being equal once again and Tom has Ace high vs a min raise and QUADS....I guarantee Tom calls quicker than he did here, even though I HIGHLY DOUBT enigma min raises with Quads. I think for certain, Tom didn't snap call with King's because he now has a value re-raising hand and simply reassessed the situation. I think Tom calls a 3x raise here with Ace high just the same except not a snap call because yes, up against a HIGHER PRICE always is a factor, AND ONCE AGAIN WITH MOST PEOPLE, it becomes a play factor, where with a good player or Tom, it's primarily more of a clue factor or information factor rather than the HUGE game theory mistake of: "Oh wait, 75k is too expensive to consider anything else in this situation and therefore I don't FOLD RIGHT AWAY because I simply don't know what the hell I'm doing here other than I don't want to look like I been BLOWN OUT THE POT with a quick fold" ....where it's so LOL, in all reality, the amateur or wannabe thinks he is a good player because he's a bum hunting pretender in the long run....serves himself MUCH BETTER IN IMAGE with a quick fold of being blown out the pot. ....in other words, too stupid and too much ego and definitely not enough poker PSYCH skill to realize being HONEST on a table is not something exactly the OTHER GUY KNOWS.... trying to save face or appear to be what you are not, makes it easier for the better player to read you... When it comes to image of PLAY and it's tough language to understand for the equal or slightly better or less competent player for sure....guys like: Scotty Nguyen Men "the master" Tony G .... for example, play their image correctly because they are more HONESTLY playing the game....THEY HAVE GAME and that's the point. A friend of mine who plays basically like Scotty but much much more sophisticated which is what the above 3 players lack... because they primarily make you react to them first as a foundation and because they are LOOSE AGGRESSIVE, they understand the value of 3rd pair etc because obviously they know they receive more play in opposition because they cannot possibly have a hand every time....but just enough on the front end and understand the value enough to obviously be very tricky players and definitely know what they are doing and DEFINITELY don't sit on a river Knowing they are going to fold for a dumb reason that does not apply such as too high of a price.... Irregardless if they know they are going to fold they don't waste time with it... But anyway, my friend watched Tom back in the day and wasn't impressed, in fact.... irritated that he gets so much notoriety. He honestly expected to see more vs the hype. My friend was right when he emphatically said: "I'm telling you dude, he has no GAME...." IN OTHER WORDS, it's just like the title of this video that in which to be fair....is not anywhere near or close to Tom's best 6 hands ever. ....and my friends point was that Tom from what he saw, isn't making and or the type who is MAKING PLAYS....not as a more standard method of play like Scotty Nguyen where for example another guy I know, told me how impossible it is to play Scotty or some of the other Vietnamese contingency names, especially in those early rounds of a tournament. "I swear it's as if they play literally every hand and whenever I try to counter them pre-flop, they just come over the top....and when I said to myself OK AND THE NEXT TIME I RE-RAISED THEM BACK, they just SHOVE IT ALL IN.... Hyper aggression with a purpose or reason in which they are either one step ahead or GAMBLING and force you to gamble basically as the only tactical strategy on their terms because they are not sophisticated but they are tricky and therefore they are not suckers....yeah, All in when you got pocket aces....far from it, that's part of being tricky, they can swim in the net because they are completely capable of wiggling out when need be because when you pretty much constantly swim in the net as a method, YOU learn to get a feel for why people play back at you and of course how they play back.... Especially those who do not do it often and therefore when they got something to counter you with, there is something different about it that guy's like Scotty etc can sense.... But if you notice, they don't change when they got something or third pair or nothing.... Tom doesn't have game really anywhere near as sophisticated as he is as a player. Phil Ivey is sophisticated.... They can PLAY back oftentimes and especially Phil, where one time Doyle brunson out of frustration laughed after quickly mucking his hand pre-flop and says to ivey.....GOD DANG IT LOL HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN AND NOT LOL...??? That's the million dollar question. You know how Ivey makes PLAYS? ... it's exactly how Antonius said it in a interview once, "...on the river, no matter what he has, if he has the best hand, he calls and if not, HE FOLDS....and he's always right pretty much AND it looks so easy for him"....(as he shakes his head with the Patrick serious poker face) Tom is definitely similar.... this is sophistication and therefore more balanced. To be just loose tricky aggressive, means you ultimately limit yourself to reactionary tactics and strategy within a particular range where guys like Phil etc keep it more open to interpretation. So of course it doesn't surprise me when I remember viewing many player stats where Phil Ivey online at FTP with the lesser sample size of hands played, but definitely enough to quantify even more and just how above the rim he is... even compared to the online dorks who would play in the biggest online games as long as there was a fish or two like gus Hansen or GUY LIBERTE the billionaire.... Now keep in mind, Phil Ivey is not doing that versus Phil galfond is etc and therefore as a perfect example you have two players and one has a way huger hand sample size with a clear fish edge much much higher in degree than Phil ivy who has a smaller sample size but definitely enough hands where it's clearly not an anomaly. NEITHER IS THE ABSOLUTE outer space inexplicable reality of theoretical fact AND FORGET ABOUT GAME THEORY... Phil Ivey in 6 handed NLH games for instance, had the highest BB win rate I think of 7 or 8 BB for every hundred hands, BUT, lol....plays something like 56% of the hands dealt to him. Obviously if his live performances didn't back up his ability, one or MANY would be complaining that he has a superuser account or something....for real. ... because the fairly well known online player "Im2FAST" I used to talk to and play heads up often, and who definitely concentrates on as a method of playing more like what my friend said about Dwan having no game and therefore Im2FAST also agreeing ....so in other words, highest level of play is LOOSE AGGRESSIVE WITH TRICKY SOPHISTICATION...which is just about where Ivey is but just not as tricky aggressive as can be because in reality even though possible, it's the mental energy requirement that one would need to sustain as a constant way of playing day in and day out as a method is too difficult...even for Phil Ivey. ...but my point is, one time a player mentioned something about a 38% of hands played being his sustainable best and 42% is where he cannot profit and starts to lose money in the long run and Im2FAST laughs and says, "Lol, 42% is MANIACAL" .... when later I pointed out that Phil plays 56% of his hands with a 7-8 BB win rate....he didn't believe it but at the same time it made him think and conclude what even he would say because he himself thought he was the best player in the world and said about Phil that there's no doubt he has innate ability. ....it cannot be explained or learned.... It doesn't surprise me look how big his frontal lobe is.
6:00 This raise is from Black is awful. The commentators are saying nonsense, you are not afraid of draws, the flop is rainbow, you've got a blocker on KJ, and you want to keep J9 in the hand because of the reverse implied odds for them if they hit their K. If an 8 comes on the turn you can adapt your line quite easily.
I agree it was a bad play because he obviously isn't a good enough player to play it that way with 7-2 or in other words, a rag hand and not because he has the effective nuts. Remember, it's a late position limped pot 3 way. (I'm playing it by Andy's position and scenario....NOT knowing what Tom and the girl have in their hand and when you truly or honestly derive Andy's hand this way, we can at least find a reason why he played it that way, despite it being incorrect. ...for the record, I would raise Tom's lead out bet if I were Andy...but I'm not Andy, so I'm just trying to make a point here that ANDY IS NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE SMALL BLIND and that is obvious. He's just some idiot who happened to get lottery type lucky in the main event and go deeper than one man could ever deserve. THE GIRL COMPLETED THE SMALL BLIND WITH A RAISING HAND AND JUST FLOPPED THE EFFECTIVE JOINT WITH ALL THINGS CONSIDERED where I know for a fact TOM IS PAYING ATTENTION, that's why he led out. ....it's because he knows The girl has business on that flop and this is guaranteed, and the proof of her unawareness is the fact that she is raising or whatever her position is pre-flop It doesn't matter... She should know better and she doesn't, which also proves without a doubt that Andy sure as hell is not paying attention AND does not have that kind of game to be tricky sophisticated because why else does Tom fold a MONSTER in that spot.... This is why I say I'm playing Andy's position but I'm not Andy and therefore and foremost I'm not limping in with King 10 there....but I would with a rag hand and definitely not to fold at the first sign of being played back pre-flop or the flop and that is the point... But I repeat I am just distinguishing the difference even though I am forcing myself to play Andy's position with that hand. Tom leads out, he can have anything and since I'm Andy not paying attention to the girl who obviously flopped something then I just call like Andy did not realizing either way he just screwed himself because at the very least the girl is now to act with definite business in that pot we know she's not making a play and I'm definitely not putting her on Queens in the hole and so on... No matter what, she's going to think about it and give off or confirm what she definitely gave off when the flop was dealt... She decides to raise, Tom calls and If you think Tom calls the girl or is even worried about her you are dreaming... He calls because of Andy.... Tom knows she isn't in the hunt and now what is Andy up to... and Andy like a retard gives his hand away because we know he can't be doing it with anything else. If Andy had pocket aces, It would all look different and if he raised just the same it would definitely look different. He's an idiot... It's really irritating that the luck in poker does afford the luxury of changing an idiot's life who I guess is only legitimate in the sense he did put up or earned the $10,000 right to sit down and play the main event whether out of his pocket or a super satellite or however his entry was initiated.... But that's about it... This is why I raise Tom's bet and this will change the dynamic with the girl to play next and who knows what she does from here other than definitely take a long time to make a decision that much I know and of course I wouldn't be surprised if she reluctantly spaz shoves all in with a shrug of the shoulders in which that's what makes her a goofball too because I seriously doubt she could ever find a fold along with a more appropriate shrug of the shoulders or another words she has appropriate and reluctant as two concepts more than likely ass backwards. And Andy is just a straight up idiot.
Tell Dwan to show up at my table . World series of power app. Is free app. I call him out. Be a man and play me . Look for me in the leaders board. My name is Mr Dinero/LA pass the message to these wimp.
The bluff against ivey is one of the best plays ever♥️
8-10 years ago I used to love watchin a young durr play with Vets at the table and just win on crazy bluffs good calls and just big poker balls
How nice to wacht young Tom play
The hand against Esfandiari is also fantastic♥️
You guys didn’t show the hand with Durrrr versus Ivey over I believe in the UK when they both had a straight but Tom had the higher straight and it was for quite a few million €. or Pounds, I forgot…”oh my Gawd!!”
ESFANDIARI:”I really think he’s bluffing”
Easy to say when you don’t have a $268k decision
lol the enigma, put the mortgage on the table that day
0:35 Ziggy looking around to see where this beehive in the room is.
7:20 how is that not an obvious angle play?!?
Easy fold from Tom Dwan 10-3
Lol Antonio deserved that for trying to make fun of Dwan, love seeing him lose a pot.
13:12 - starting at Dwan vs. Ivey is a LONG hand, skip to 19:37 if you wish!
The river bet was a quarter million and the pot was more than half a mil. Wish Ivey could find the call. Either way great play.
Eu com as calças do meu pai sou um Grande homem. 😂
If villain raises 3x what he did on the river he gets Tom to lay down the best hand? Seemed like a weak raise with air.
No, it's a non committed convincing raise the way the hand played out because ENIGMA knows his hand on the river makes no sense and therefore Tom folds irregardless with air.... hopefully.
3x in all reality makes his play valueless because Tom irregardless is going to call or fold and I'm not saying that because Tom paired King's on the river.
I never analyze that way, where most others do.....no different than Tom is up against quads and 3x....I would be saying to myself,
"call... Tom.....CALL"
.... because he or whoever is supposed to or should be calling because once again, all things being equal, the way the hand played out, nothing changes...ENIGMAS hand doesn't make sense.
All things being equal once again and Tom has Ace high vs a min raise and QUADS....I guarantee Tom calls quicker than he did here, even though I HIGHLY DOUBT enigma min raises with Quads.
I think for certain, Tom didn't snap call with King's because he now has a value re-raising hand and simply reassessed the situation.
I think Tom calls a 3x raise here with Ace high just the same except not a snap call because yes, up against a HIGHER PRICE always is a factor,
AND ONCE AGAIN WITH MOST PEOPLE,
it becomes a play factor, where with a good player or Tom, it's primarily more of a clue factor or information factor rather than the HUGE game theory mistake of:
"Oh wait, 75k is too expensive to consider anything else in this situation and therefore I don't FOLD RIGHT AWAY because I simply don't know what the hell I'm doing here other than I don't want to look like I been BLOWN OUT THE POT with a quick fold"
....where it's so LOL, in all reality, the amateur or wannabe thinks he is a good player because he's a bum hunting pretender in the long run....serves himself MUCH BETTER IN IMAGE with a quick fold of being blown out the pot.
....in other words, too stupid and too much ego and definitely not enough poker PSYCH skill to realize being HONEST on a table is not something exactly the OTHER GUY KNOWS.... trying to save face or appear to be what you are not, makes it easier for the better player to read you...
When it comes to image of PLAY and it's tough language to understand for the equal or slightly better or less competent player for sure....guys like:
Scotty Nguyen
Men "the master"
Tony G
.... for example, play their image correctly because they are more HONESTLY playing the game....THEY HAVE GAME and that's the point.
A friend of mine who plays basically like Scotty but much much more sophisticated which is what the above 3 players lack... because they primarily make you react to them first as a foundation and because they are LOOSE AGGRESSIVE, they understand the value of 3rd pair etc because obviously they know they receive more play in opposition because they cannot possibly have a hand every time....but just enough on the front end and understand the value enough to obviously be very tricky players and definitely know what they are doing and DEFINITELY don't sit on a river Knowing they are going to fold for a dumb reason that does not apply such as too high of a price.... Irregardless if they know they are going to fold they don't waste time with it...
But anyway, my friend watched Tom back in the day and wasn't impressed, in fact.... irritated that he gets so much notoriety.
He honestly expected to see more vs the hype. My friend was right when he emphatically said:
"I'm telling you dude, he has no GAME...."
IN OTHER WORDS, it's just like the title of this video that in which to be fair....is not anywhere near or close to Tom's best 6 hands ever.
....and my friends point was that Tom from what he saw, isn't making and or the type who is MAKING PLAYS....not as a more standard method of play like Scotty Nguyen where for example another guy I know, told me how impossible it is to play Scotty or some of the other Vietnamese contingency names, especially in those early rounds of a tournament.
"I swear it's as if they play literally every hand and whenever I try to counter them pre-flop, they just come over the top....and when I said to myself OK AND THE NEXT TIME I RE-RAISED THEM BACK, they just SHOVE IT ALL IN....
Hyper aggression with a purpose or reason in which they are either one step ahead or GAMBLING and force you to gamble basically as the only tactical strategy on their terms because they are not sophisticated but they are tricky and therefore they are not suckers....yeah, All in when you got pocket aces....far from it, that's part of being tricky, they can swim in the net because they are completely capable of wiggling out when need be because when you pretty much constantly swim in the net as a method, YOU learn to get a feel for why people play back at you and of course how they play back.... Especially those who do not do it often and therefore when they got something to counter you with, there is something different about it that guy's like Scotty etc can sense....
But if you notice, they don't change when they got something or third pair or nothing....
Tom doesn't have game really anywhere near as sophisticated as he is as a player.
Phil Ivey is sophisticated....
They can PLAY back oftentimes and especially Phil, where one time Doyle brunson out of frustration laughed after quickly mucking his hand pre-flop and says to ivey.....GOD DANG IT LOL HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN AND NOT LOL...???
That's the million dollar question.
You know how Ivey makes PLAYS?
... it's exactly how Antonius said it in a interview once,
"...on the river, no matter what he has, if he has the best hand, he calls and if not, HE FOLDS....and he's always right pretty much AND it looks so easy for him"....(as he shakes his head with the Patrick serious poker face)
Tom is definitely similar.... this is sophistication and therefore more balanced.
To be just loose tricky aggressive, means you ultimately limit yourself to reactionary tactics and strategy within a particular range where guys like Phil etc keep it more open to interpretation.
So of course it doesn't surprise me when I remember viewing many player stats where Phil Ivey online at FTP with the lesser sample size of hands played, but definitely enough to quantify even more and just how above the rim he is... even compared to the online dorks who would play in the biggest online games as long as there was a fish or two like gus Hansen or GUY LIBERTE the billionaire.... Now keep in mind, Phil Ivey is not doing that versus Phil galfond is etc and therefore as a perfect example you have two players and one has a way huger hand sample size with a clear fish edge much much higher in degree than Phil ivy who has a smaller sample size but definitely enough hands where it's clearly not an anomaly.
NEITHER IS THE ABSOLUTE outer space inexplicable reality of theoretical fact AND FORGET ABOUT GAME THEORY...
Phil Ivey in 6 handed NLH games for instance, had the highest BB win rate I think of 7 or 8 BB for every hundred hands,
BUT,
lol....plays something like 56% of the hands dealt to him.
Obviously if his live performances didn't back up his ability, one or MANY would be complaining that he has a superuser account or something....for real.
... because the fairly well known online player "Im2FAST" I used to talk to and play heads up often, and who definitely concentrates on as a method of playing more like what my friend said about Dwan having no game and therefore Im2FAST also agreeing ....so in other words, highest level of play is LOOSE AGGRESSIVE WITH TRICKY SOPHISTICATION...which is just about where Ivey is but just not as tricky aggressive as can be because in reality even though possible, it's the mental energy requirement that one would need to sustain as a constant way of playing day in and day out as a method is too difficult...even for Phil Ivey.
...but my point is, one time a player mentioned something about a 38% of hands played being his sustainable best and 42% is where he cannot profit and starts to lose money in the long run and Im2FAST laughs and says,
"Lol, 42% is MANIACAL"
.... when later I pointed out that Phil plays 56% of his hands with a 7-8 BB win rate....he didn't believe it but at the same time it made him think and conclude what even he would say because he himself thought he was the best player in the world and said about Phil that there's no doubt he has innate ability.
....it cannot be explained or learned.... It doesn't surprise me look how big his frontal lobe is.
Best ever...to bluff catch with a river king?
the Best.. call with 9 high. w t f.
Nice video!
6:00 This raise is from Black is awful. The commentators are saying nonsense, you are not afraid of draws, the flop is rainbow, you've got a blocker on KJ, and you want to keep J9 in the hand because of the reverse implied odds for them if they hit their K. If an 8 comes on the turn you can adapt your line quite easily.
I agree it was a bad play because he obviously isn't a good enough player to play it that way with 7-2 or in other words, a rag hand and not because he has the effective nuts.
Remember, it's a late position limped pot 3 way.
(I'm playing it by Andy's position and scenario....NOT knowing what Tom and the girl have in their hand and when you truly or honestly derive Andy's hand this way, we can at least find a reason why he played it that way, despite it being incorrect.
...for the record, I would raise Tom's lead out bet if I were Andy...but I'm not Andy, so I'm just trying to make a point here that ANDY IS NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE SMALL BLIND and that is obvious.
He's just some idiot who happened to get lottery type lucky in the main event and go deeper than one man could ever deserve.
THE GIRL COMPLETED THE SMALL BLIND WITH A RAISING HAND AND JUST FLOPPED THE EFFECTIVE JOINT WITH ALL THINGS CONSIDERED where I know for a fact TOM IS PAYING ATTENTION, that's why he led out. ....it's because he knows The girl has business on that flop and this is guaranteed, and the proof of her unawareness is the fact that she is raising or whatever her position is pre-flop It doesn't matter... She should know better and she doesn't, which also proves without a doubt that Andy sure as hell is not paying attention AND does not have that kind of game to be tricky sophisticated because why else does Tom fold a MONSTER in that spot....
This is why I say I'm playing Andy's position but I'm not Andy and therefore and foremost I'm not limping in with King 10 there....but I would with a rag hand and definitely not to fold at the first sign of being played back pre-flop or the flop and that is the point... But I repeat I am just distinguishing the difference even though I am forcing myself to play Andy's position with that hand.
Tom leads out, he can have anything and since I'm Andy not paying attention to the girl who obviously flopped something then I just call like Andy did not realizing either way he just screwed himself because at the very least the girl is now to act with definite business in that pot we know she's not making a play and I'm definitely not putting her on Queens in the hole and so on...
No matter what, she's going to think about it and give off or confirm what she definitely gave off when the flop was dealt... She decides to raise, Tom calls and If you think Tom calls the girl or is even worried about her you are dreaming...
He calls because of Andy....
Tom knows she isn't in the hunt and now what is Andy up to... and Andy like a retard gives his hand away because we know he can't be doing it with anything else.
If Andy had pocket aces, It would all look different and if he raised just the same it would definitely look different. He's an idiot...
It's really irritating that the luck in poker does afford the luxury of changing an idiot's life who I guess is only legitimate in the sense he did put up or earned the $10,000 right to sit down and play the main event whether out of his pocket or a super satellite or however his entry was initiated.... But that's about it...
This is why I raise Tom's bet and this will change the dynamic with the girl to play next and who knows what she does from here other than definitely take a long time to make a decision that much I know and of course I wouldn't be surprised if she reluctantly spaz shoves all in with a shrug of the shoulders in which that's what makes her a goofball too because I seriously doubt she could ever find a fold along with a more appropriate shrug of the shoulders or another words she has appropriate and reluctant as two concepts more than likely ass backwards.
And Andy is just a straight up idiot.
Tell Dwan to show up at my table . World series of power app. Is free app. I call him out. Be a man and play me . Look for me in the leaders board. My name is Mr Dinero/LA pass the message to these wimp.
WHATS WITH THE DUMBAZZ WITH THE "kiss" MAKEUP ..I LOVE WHEN LOSERS LAUGH
I think he has a tell where his face goes really red, so he paints it lol.