Understanding the Circle of THIRDS

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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
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    Relevant Lessons:
    ➢ 16 Practical Applications of the Circle of 5ths: • 16 Practical Applicati...
    ➢ Chord Construction Basics: • The 3 Most Important T...
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    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Lesson Intro
    1:02 - Formation of the Circle
    5:14 - 7th Chords
    7:57 - Extensions
    11:05 - Modes
    13:05 - New Key Signature
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    Enjoy!

КОМЕНТАРІ • 53

  • @zombieguitar
    @zombieguitar  Рік тому +5

    I just wanted to point out that the "extended" diatonic chords aren't quite as pretty as shown in this video. For example the 3rd chord in 9th form in the key of C actually becomes an Em(b9) and the 4th chord in 11th form becomes an Fmaj7#11...For the sake of keeping things "beginner friendly", I left the #'s and b's (where applicable) out of the extended chord names 😀

    • @Mo-qe4rf
      @Mo-qe4rf Рік тому

      Nothing ruined music but friendly

  • @PhilipHawthorne
    @PhilipHawthorne Рік тому +10

    I agree with Brian that the Circle of Fifths is more practical but this Circle of Thirds really helps me understand better how chords are constructed; nice one 😊

    • @jamesnotsmith1465
      @jamesnotsmith1465 Рік тому +2

      I agree, but not just chords, the circle of thirds provides a very easy visual of the modes as well. I had not heard of the Co3rds before this post. Thanks Brian.

  • @danhusband6154
    @danhusband6154 Рік тому +5

    Ricky Comiskey is other on line teacher that did the Circle of Thirds video some time ago. I also follow him as his style of teaching is excellent like Brian’s. The circle of thirds is great for a quick reference for chord extension (7th, 9th, 11th etc)… thanks for putting your twist on it Brian.. always good to refresh and look at things from a difficult perspective… plink on!

  • @matrixstar2767
    @matrixstar2767 Рік тому +2

    This really helps me figuring note of the 7th chords and beyond, also I was able to trace it in the circle of 5ths....nice!

  • @silkyb9869
    @silkyb9869 Рік тому +2

    Not sure why this concept never occurred to me. Thank you sir!

  • @brettrobinson4894
    @brettrobinson4894 Рік тому +1

    Eyup! Shout out to Rickey! I also follow him online. Zombie Guitar has given me most of my theory training and helped me to achieve some life goals that I thought were impossible. I am a life member and during Covid I completed every one of Brian's classes both on the Zombie site and all UA-cams. I continue to enjoy Brain's new stuff and often go back to the site for a refresher. Ricky has a lot of little ways to remember things and has also give me some AH-HA moments!

  • @keithjackaman9427
    @keithjackaman9427 Рік тому +2

    I use the notes on the TREBLE CLEF as a memory aid to all this - Every Good Boy Deserves Favour (the notes EGBDF on the staff lines) and FACE - the notes between the lines (this has stuck with me since primary school). I sharpen or flatten as appropriate - I've found that this part really helps to fully understand the whole chord building process.

  • @PhilInAustralia
    @PhilInAustralia Рік тому +1

    You're right Brian, this is pretty cool.

  • @Ahmed-kv4up
    @Ahmed-kv4up Рік тому +1

    Thanks, Brian. Very pertinent as always.

  • @mattsullivan7649
    @mattsullivan7649 Рік тому

    Love all the different examples you provide! So helpful!

  • @DaPoopIsInDaPudding
    @DaPoopIsInDaPudding Рік тому +1

    I’d never heard of it before either. This should be good.

  • @martynspooner5822
    @martynspooner5822 Рік тому +1

    Excellent as always, thankyou.

  • @user-sv9by7vf5g
    @user-sv9by7vf5g 9 місяців тому

    Thank a lot
    It helps me to understand cord structure better 👍🙏

  • @Flyright07
    @Flyright07 Рік тому

    I've previously seen the video you referenced - it didn't quite click at the time. While watching your video, there was a eureka moment while watching the 7ths section and again in the 9ths section. Thank you!

  • @john749
    @john749 Рік тому +1

    Great lesson! Light bulbs went off in my head.

  • @aarmstrong751
    @aarmstrong751 2 місяці тому

    David Becker has a book "Getting your improvising into shape" and you can find some UA-cam videos He said for A minor scale you need to raise the 7th tone a half step (G to G#) to give you an E7 for the V chord This is also known as the Harmonic Minor

    • @zombieguitar
      @zombieguitar  2 місяці тому

      The harmonic minor scale has a raised 7th. The natural minor scale has a flat 7th. Both are great scales to use 😀

  • @amorsoloreyes7197
    @amorsoloreyes7197 Рік тому

    Bravo... I found it easy to see the modes and how the 7th (th and even 13 .. Thank you master Brian Kelly..

  • @midi1529
    @midi1529 Рік тому

    Yes very good and through explication of stacking 3rds.
    I learned from this the Maj min Maj structures of the crd arpeggios that allows a 2 note per string approach to arpeggios.
    Also solidified many other things. You're nailing such important concepts ... best

  • @davidconwell848
    @davidconwell848 Рік тому +2

    This is an awesome lesson. Thanks for putting it together and it appears so logical when seen visually. Thank you for going much farther to include the extended chords. Hearing the arpeggiated tones was also an added benefit. Bravo, Bravo.

  • @tonymccormick21
    @tonymccormick21 Рік тому

    I like it. You are right that it isn’t as useful as the circle of 5ths, but it still gets some points across very well.

  • @cancelbubble6535
    @cancelbubble6535 Рік тому +2

    Pretty interesting. Seems like this would be more popular in learning chords.

    • @alex-esc
      @alex-esc Рік тому

      It's literally just a Major scale. Probably the first thing most music teachers tackle on day one.
      But here the Major scale is wrapped around a circle.

    • @BantheDan
      @BantheDan Рік тому

      @@alex-esc well it's a bit more than that. It's not in the regular order for a start.

  • @latinmez
    @latinmez Рік тому

    Makes more sense on piano than guitar. Amazing !

  • @notreadytogig
    @notreadytogig Рік тому

    I started watching. Was skeptical.. then you got to th 7 chord .. and I finally understand the diminished.

  • @skrijal9417
    @skrijal9417 Рік тому

    Good lesson for us to make chords easily

  • @invisigoth777
    @invisigoth777 Рік тому

    wish I could give you more than 1 thumbs up
    even though I knew this, in the back of my head
    you explained it so clearly that it makes more sense

    • @zombieguitar
      @zombieguitar  Рік тому

      Thanks Juan! Glad to hear the video was helpful 😃

  • @simontemplar3359
    @simontemplar3359 Рік тому

    Eyup!! Ricky is a cool dude! I'm interested in your take on this as well.

  • @undersoundproductions1915
    @undersoundproductions1915 Рік тому

    Another link in the chain that helps the mind unconsciously gain the full theory experience. I think. 😂. Thanks again Brian. Well explained as usual.

  • @romanwestenholtz4396
    @romanwestenholtz4396 Рік тому

    I am subscribed to Ricky- EYUP- haha- Between you and Ricky I learned alot just two different minds of thought you both give me that Barts DAD moment- DOH- with your lessons haha there is another with the Chords in a key Minor and Major where he calls it the L7 Grid which is awesome but he does not post much anymore most of the vids are old- you are more extensive in your lessons and explain in terms anyone can understand like I said before you are one of the best Ricky is numer 2 lol! Love your lessons Brian thanks for all of your hard work!

  • @randallmiller8314
    @randallmiller8314 Рік тому

    Until watching your video, I could not understand why the 5th of the harmonic major scale was a dominant chord as opposed to a major chord. I know it sounded better (to me) when played as a dominant but I did not think about counting the interval distance of the added 7th.

  • @lesacadiens-natachavincent6986

    This video was very clear as I like to think that I understand the "basics" of chord construction, but the pinned comment raised questions in my head.
    "the 3rd chord in 9th form in the key of C actually becomes an Em(b9)"
    Cmaj9 => CEGBD (M3rd, m3rd, M3rd and m3rd) (distance between notes discribed around the circle)
    Dm9 => DFAGE (m3rd, M3rd, m3rd and M3rd)
    E??? => EGBDF (m3rd, M3rd, m3rd and m3rd)
    Does this mean that a m9 chord goes by the formula (m3rd, M3rd, m3rd and M3rd) (2nd chord) and since the 3rd chord has this formula (m3rd, M3rd, m3rd and m3rd) it becomes m(b9), just like M3rd + m3rd => major chord and m3rd + M3rd => minor chord and m3rd + m3rd => diminished chord??
    In other words, a chord gets its name based upon the 3rds that are stacked.
    M => 1 3 5 => M m
    m =>1 b3 5 => m M
    maj7 => 1 3 5 7 => M m M
    min7 => 1 b3 7 b7 => m M m
    7 => 1 3 5 b7 => M m m
    maj9 => 1 3 5 7 9 => M m M m
    min9 => 1 b3 5 b7 9 => m M m M
    9 => 1 3 5 b7 9 => M m m M
    At 8 minutes into the video (Extensions), should you not have named the 3rd chord Em(b9) rather than Em9?
    I now like to think that my understanding of chords has gone up a notch, thanks to you.
    Great video! Thank you.
    Vincent

    • @zombieguitar
      @zombieguitar  Рік тому +1

      Hey Vincent...you've basically got everything down, except for just 1 thing...
      Let's take the Em9 vs. Em(b9)
      In semitones we have:
      1.) m9 chord: 1 - b3 - 5 - b7 - 9
      2.) m(b9) chord: 1 - b3 - 5 - b7 - b9
      With the actual notes:
      1.) Em9: E - G - B - D - F#
      2.) Em(b9): E - G - B - D - F
      The distance between D and F# is a major 3rd, but the distance between D and F is a minor 3rd.
      If I would have tried to fit all of this extra explanation into the video, it would have gotten too long. So I just simplified it instead!

    • @lesacadiens-natachavincent6986
      @lesacadiens-natachavincent6986 Рік тому

      @@zombieguitar Thank you for the quick reply. This all makes sense to me now, thank you very much!
      Just one thing that I'd like to confirm: the 3rd diatonic 9th chord should be m(b9) and not m9 as written in your video, @minute 8. Is that correct?
      Thank you for these great videos, and for sharing your passion for music with us all.
      Here is something I found on the web:
      Diatonic 9th Chords in C Major
      9 D E F G A B C
      7 B C D E F G A
      5 G A B C D E F
      3 E F G A B C D
      1 C D E F G A B
      Name: Cmaj9 Dmin9 Emin7b9 Fmaj9 G9 Amin9 Bm7b5b9
      Thanks again.
      Vincent

  • @Knowyourintent
    @Knowyourintent 2 місяці тому

    Great lesson. Great channel. Thank you Brian.
    I would like to know which graphics program you use to create this lesson please.

    • @zombieguitar
      @zombieguitar  2 місяці тому

      Thanks man! I use Affinity Designer for all of my images, and then Vegas movie studio for the video editing 😀

  • @fdre3wsd
    @fdre3wsd Рік тому

    maybe it can apply to augmented scales

  • @felipe8511
    @felipe8511 11 місяців тому

    it doesnt change much from actually seeing the scales horizontally and writing the thirds under each degree

    • @zombieguitar
      @zombieguitar  11 місяців тому

      You're right. It is a cool chart though 😁

  • @arturoaguilajr2009
    @arturoaguilajr2009 9 місяців тому

    I count up four frets From C note and get F not E..just learning guitar..help me to understand anyone

    • @arturoaguilajr2009
      @arturoaguilajr2009 9 місяців тому

      I stand corrected now…I did not considering intervals

  • @frankaq3951
    @frankaq3951 Рік тому

    I'm guessing you couldn't play all the notes in a 13th chord anyway, since there are only six strings?

    • @zombieguitar
      @zombieguitar  Рік тому

      That's where the rules of chord construction come into play! ua-cam.com/video/mj6jVzcWRUw/v-deo.html

  • @MrDoneboy
    @MrDoneboy Рік тому

    I doubt if this will replace the circle of fifths, but...Lol

  • @blackberrywhite7581
    @blackberrywhite7581 Рік тому

    Brian I love your Guitar tutorials But your music theory is not always fully Transparent The Circle of Thirds doesn’t demonstrate Ninth extensions accurately this is because Eminor 9th does not come from the scale of C Major it comes from the G Major scale which contains the F# it needs to create Eminor 9th.
    An E chord that does fit the C Major scale that has 5 notes is E7sus4(b9) E,A,B, D,F.
    Therefore I would not recommend using the Circle of thirds beyond 7ths.
    Thank you for your Valuable Guitar Tutorials.
    Best ,V

    • @zombieguitar
      @zombieguitar  Рік тому +1

      Yup you are right. The diatonic chord would be an Em(b9). I didn't want to bring this up because I didn't want to spend time explaining why it was a 'b9' in this video and get off track. I do have a few other videos where I talk specifically about the 2/9 interval, and I talk about the b9 in those videos. Here is one of them: ua-cam.com/video/qf-aVkLGdG4/v-deo.html

    • @blackberrywhite7581
      @blackberrywhite7581 Рік тому

      Thank You for Acknowledging my Observation I had Never heard of or used the Circle or thirds before in my Opinion understanding the Circle of 4ths and 5ths with the ring of 6ths inside like you use is all anyone would ever need if they took a little time to digest it’s brilliance.
      I still favour the E7sus4(b9) over Em7(b9) as it is IMO far more versatile and introduces you to world of Phrygian Dominant which is never a bad thing.
      Brian I was taught all the 7th chord Formulas (1357’s)very early on then I was taught (246’s) become the extensions of the 7ths as 9 11 and 13’s with the Rule ONLY 11ths with 7ths that have a b3’s and omit the 11th when playing a 13th.
      I think this would make a Great lesson and your Style would do it Justice the the Circle of Thirds would have its use then - to learn the 7ths.
      Not trying to tell you how to do you Job just remembering my Father he was a Great teacher of Music Theory but I was too interested in Soccer, Sinorita’s and Smoking to be his Pupil.
      He finally stopped trying when I was about 15 if only…
      Best, V

  • @john749
    @john749 Рік тому

    So many notes, but only 5 fingers! ha