The Rise and Fall of Pokémon GO
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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This is such a great breakdown of the highs and lows of PoGo. I first started playing in 2016 and quit by early 2017. Decided to pick it up again in 2023 and was amazed by how much had changed and improved, but the remote raid pass nerf has left a nasty stain on the game...
Bro your amazing
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Couldn’t it be said that it was the remote raid introduction that left the stain?
Remote raids going away has made it very hard to find excitement about playing, I live in an extremely rural area, and remote raids were the only way I could play a raid. Sad to see that many others are in my same situation
they are still here though?
Same here
@@jackpezThey are harder to get now though
Didn’t get rid of anything goofball
bruh only 40 Coins more plus they have realesed campfire
That first month or so was amazing....
Literally everyone was playing the game and everyone was down for hanging out and catching together.
Never have I ever seen a more harmonised society than when PoGo released. Those times were the best.
Sadly I don't play the game now... It just can't hold my interest, no one I know still plays either.
I will remember those times fondly, along with the cool people I met.
I don't agree with you, I been there and most Pokemon Go fans did not even like Pokemon.
The community was very toxic I remerber it was so bad that Pokemon fans and Pokemon Go fans were separate communites, because if you are talking to Go fans back in 2016 you could talk to them only about Go and nothing else about Pokemon, even if you started to talk about other Pokemon games they get angry very easy and call you a hater
@@paradoxzee6834 exactly bro, its better now too, and a whole lot of people play now, i just went to global go fest in my local park and was over 100 people and it was dope asf
@@paradoxzee6834That made me unlock a hidden memory of people reacting with 'you mean Pokemon Go?' at any pokemon mention and call any pokemon that wasn't in Pokemon Go fake
Everything was much better with Trump as president.
@@paradoxzee6834 Who cares
I had my ups and downs with this game, returning every couple of years. One thing that made me excited this year was the remote raid as most of my friends had already stopped playing. Now, I can play with many people wherever they are and it was awesome. Unfortunately, with the pricy item, Niantic actually should not be limiting people to 5 times.
I stopped playing when the remote raid passes went up in price. Won’t be back unless they go down.
Having a hard limit is fine and should have been the "nerf" from the beginning. Not the 100% price hike...
A lot of people are commenting about how remote raids were supposed to be temporary and all…but before remote raids I couldn’t do legendary raids even in a pretty large area (Raleigh NC) because there simply wasn’t a group that I had the time and availability outside of work to meet up with. This weekend I went to a couple of parks to see if anyone was around to try and work on some shadow mewtwo…nothing. I used to buy a few remote raid passes a week and spend a little bit of real money each month and I could jump on invites I had coming from around the world from people in my friends list. Or I could use a service like pokegenie to do a couple of legendary raids and try for shiny or hundo or whatever. I can’t afford to do any of that now. I started playing on the third day after launch in 2016 and now I’m just losing steam and thinking of quitting. I’m not even really a “rural” player, and I don’t have any disabilities that preclude getting out and about so I can only imagine how badly the game has felt limited to those players lately.
I've played since beta. Like 95% of my raids have been in-person, but with friends I don't live near anymore joining me remotely. I was playing a lot (more I should probably) up until the nerf, but I now basically use it to kill 5 minutes and do some rocket balloons, and that's really it. Maybe an hour a week, because the endgame (raids) are dead to me, so what's the point?
Same here but I am actually rural (really out in the sticks, halfway up a mountain rural) and the remote raid passes really opened up the game for me. Previously, I used to sit and watch a legendary on top of a gym wishing I had someone to help me battle it. I had no one. I am pog’s ideal player. I go out and walk miles every single day but I don’t live in a city, which is what N want. Remote raiding was incredible and I often raided between the hours of 10 pm and 6 am when raids aren’t available in person anyway. I often would also lie in bed around 1.00 in the morning and pop an incense when there was a spawn a minute. Those were good times. Now, I barely have the incentive to even open the game anymore, much less play it, especially when the spawns are frankly a snooze fest. The daily incense is really crappy as well and I don’t feel like going out to catch a bunch of pidoves on it and wasting my pokeballs. Thanks, Nerfantic, for giving us something epic then taking it away again. Thanks for nothing.
Same I couldn’t find anyone to do raids in person either so remote raids really helped and the issue is still the same it is hard to find people playing pogo to do the elite raids and shadow raids
Weird im in Raleigh as well🤣 I never see people playing it only rarely around nc state or downtown
@@chancecarlson2023 I’m on the garner side of town and usually play at lake benson/white deer parks. There are usually a few folks out for things like community day but never enough for a solid raid group. And I’m an older player so I’m not super comfy rolling up to a group of teenagers like “hey let’s raid guys!” 😂
Brandon, this is by far the realest, most open and honest reivew of the game and company I have ever seen from anyone. Not only does it serve as an incredibly perfect recap, but also as a letter to the developers.
I appreciate you continuing to be honest about the highs and lows of the game - despite Niantic's not so subtle disapproval of your honesty.
This video is extremely well made. Thank you mystic for all these amazing years of Pokemon Go while it lasted.
agreed
Everyone is making it sound like it’s over, it’s not so many people still play it and the remote raid changes didn’t kill it for everyone
@@SirCusty22 I AGREE. People are acting like its the end of the world. I still play daily. Just keep playing and dont spend money.
@@trainfamly1311 yeah it's a little absurd how entitled people are being lol they told everyone off the bat that the pandemic bonuses and cheap remote raid passes were temporary to keep the game afloat during the pandemic
I live in a medium sized town where you pretty much have to go to our Main St to do in person raids with people. I went down there for a few hours yesterday and today and frequently our lobbies for shadow Mewtwo were between 12 and 20. With a little bit of effort (that people apparently had no problem putting in before the pandemic), everyone was able to get some shadow Mewtwos and some got the shinies. I still believe more needs to be done to help out rural players (I used to be in a rural town and pretty much couldn't raid for legendaries) but the people who are mad aren't are rural. It's a bunch of people who got used to buying cheap remote raid passes and now can't be bothered to make a trip out to a raid. I miss being able to do tons of cheap remote raids as well but it's not the end of the world.
@@charlesw7397 i live in a small town where like 3 people (not exaggerating) play the game so without remote raids i can’t even get one normal shadow mewtwo let alone a shiny
Those first few weeks created some fun memories. Parks were full of life again, and everyone was so excited to catch pokemon you wouldnt normally get so hyped over in the main games. Hundreds would show up to a pokemon go meet up at a park, people would bring waters and sports drinks, and snacks, and share, we would all share info on what we are seeing, have friendly three way rivalrys between team instinct, valor, and mystic. On more than one occasion youd hear someone call out something like "Hey there's a gastly over here!" Then that would relay across the park, and someone would sprint toward the spot screaming "Gaaaaasstlyyyyy!!!!!" and everyone would go running to that spot to catch a gastly, which was really hard to find when pogo first launched. If nothing else, we had a fun few weeks that summer, when pokemon felt real, even if it didnt last.
Which i somethin i missed out on and whish ive join in on
God I remember when a Lapras spawned on the other side of town, there were literal hordes of people running to go get it. It was quite a sight.
That and when Legendaries were released.... The sheer amount of people who showed up to the first Articuno raid in the area was mind boggling.
No lie. It truly was a phenomenon for a few weeks in the summer of '16. We'd be driving around to different areas just trying to catch rare pokemon and so was everyone else. I'm almost nostalgic for it haha
I’ll never forget that first summer. Me and my gf and small kids at the time, thought we were thinking outside the box and went out later in the evening to a local park. We walked across the street, walked up this hill, and seen probably 75 people all down in this one area, all playing Pokémon go. It really felt like something huge was happening. Amazing.
This didn't happen in the small town I lived in. In my area walking 15-25 min there was only 2 shops and not much else
The fall is worse than charmander’s tail getting washed
True
Ahhahaah
Sadly true
👌
Someone take charmander out of the washer!!!!
I still get the feeling that, despite everything, there's some semblance of heart behind Pokémon Go, even now. However, if it were to be bought out by a different company, it might be what the game needs.
I think people forget how bad mobile game developers are. Chances are that another company would be just as bad if not worse than Niantic. It is very rare that I find a mobile game that doesn’t have extremely unfair or pay-to-win mechanics. The Pokémon Company tends to be the same way, so I doubt that they would even want to take time to search for a better developer.
They nerfed pay to win by limiting remote passes
I share the same opinion. I don't even mind that they're pushing a prerogative to extend the game's longevity. If Niantic really dedicated themselves they could make this game 10x better for it has HUGE potential, the number one thing pushing them back is not listening to feedback and not accepting that times have changed.
There was a great point made a while ago saying that if the goal is to get us back out again make the rewards better like guaranteed XLs via in-person raids don't remove remote raids to try and force us out
@@itzmatos How does this extend the games longevity? The only people in raids in major cities are spoofers not to mention the main contributors to Niantics bottom line when it comes to that 2 billon in revenue. Going out and having to drive around isn't really going out into the community lol that's just wasting my gas, putting miles on my car and still no one plays this shit anymore.
One thing about recent events that’s gotten really upset is the clicking the Pokémon and it running away still happens, spawns aren’t as common in unpopulated areas where before there was a decent amount of spawns. I’ve left game myself and I was one of the biggest defenders and been on the game since 2016 but I’ve been like many and really upset about how it’s going and how it’s going downhill. Much love mystic for this video and I hope you have still get enjoyment front the game!
Are you driving on the road when you click on pokemon because if you are going fast enough they just run away
@@austinthesavage745 no actually I’m not
Im okneithbthem.rjjning
No emotions can describe my rage towards niantic with the way the shadow raids for mewtwo was handled. I don't think they understand how it feels to know, that the strongest pokemon in the game is finally available for two whole days and you can get as many as you want in that time frame, but only a select few can get them, because you need an in-person team to defeat it. I don't think they know how it feels to see everyone else show off their shiny shadow mewtwo or even their shadow hundo mewtwo or the 26 shadow mewtwos they caught during those two days. Meanwhile YOU have literally none, because you have NOBODY to play with, and you can't use remote raidpasses. I do not care about the horrendous nerf to the remote raid pass, but the freaking fact that you removed it from the the event that can give you dozens of the best pokemon in the game, and only a select few get to have it, is beyond infuriating. What makes this so more infuriating is the fact that this is probably never coming back in YEARS. So, tHanK yoU sO mUch NiAntIc, I had so much fun soloing shadow mewtwo and getting an astounding zero shadow mewtwos for 2 whole days.
irk I live in a rural area were no one raids and every time one popped up I would just stare at it then I see hundreds of videos of people getting shundo shaddows hundo shaddow etc and I couldnt even beat one
And even if you completed the raid, you would probably have a high chance of it being a 0 star Mewtwo anyways.
I didn't even try for it. Cause I only got two shards. And when you work 12 hour nights you end up sleeping most of your raids away. And there isn't Amy at night except the other side of the world. Which you can't even do then cause you can't remote it.
Just start spoofing. Seriously though. It's been obvious that Niantic doesn't care about the players and their experience only their location data. No need for fomo anymore 🏃♀️🌎
@@LdangerBonly cunts spoof
Never played PokémonGo, I just remembered the news and people going crazy in 2016, it was fun looking all the people running around catching Pokémon, I didn't know how much the game changed on those years and sad to see that the community is no longer what it was. Really nice video, thanks for uploading it.
It was the closest summer to the 90s I can remember. Pokémon Go was everywhere, we had a decent economy, Blink-182 had a song in the top of the charts, and a Clinton was running for president. It was an amazing summer.
I am not done watching this video but wth, my man, this is so insanely well made u could probably start making videos for large companies. Very much well done! Edit; This production quality is amazing!
Believe he has an editor
Thank you 💙 Glad you enjoyed the video
he has someone edit his videos lol
Played a bunch in 2016 like a lot of people and have come back to the game thanks to our little one discovering and falling in love with the show. Been really loving the game - kind of glad I didn't come back before the remote raid nerf.
Hoping for the best going forward.
Thank you for this man! Decided recently that I will no longer be spending any of my own money on the game. Niantic needs to makes some major changes to get things back on track, first in the area of communication and receptivity.
$4k and going
@@PolaroxideI used to support them, but can't, they need to add new stuff already, new map stuff, new features.
@@Polaroxide imagine bragging about this
@@billybobbobson3797 nah aint got the time
@@Polaroxide $4k on a game? You need help. That, right there, is addiction.
John Hanke would foam at the mouth watching this lol But seriously, thank you for sparking back interest in Pokémon GO. You showed how passionate you clearly are about this game, and you reminded Niantic what it's like to rise and fall. I hope they adapt faster than they die!
My fear that this would be, like Zynga, a total downfall to the bottomless pit
My husband and I have played since 2016 and our son is finally old enough to play with us, it’s such a great thing to get to do together as a family, but the timing is heart breaking.
I hope Niantic feels the heat enough this year to actually respect the players again, and work with us instead of against us..although as of right now that feels unlikely /:
(Copypaste of mine)
And I know people forget that Niantic is the most ambitious and the best at what they do, and people now have their expectations incredibly high and would like their hand to be held through it all. People say it is the remote raid nerf that is killing the game, but couldn’t it be said that the remote raid INTRODUCTION, the thing which Niantic put off its vision for to help the community FOR THE MOMENT, had caused this? People say that Niantic is out of touch… but what if the community has been out of touch with Niantic’s vision ever since the things which are being taken now were introduced? And keep in mind, besides for these things, the game has improved dramatically in many ways. This is something many do not realize or would like to admit.
@@rioluwu5921 3 years is a moment apparently
@Rioluwu completely agree. It's been bizarre watching the tantrums and meltdown of the community to the rollback of temporary pandemic bonuses. People became dependent on them and are having serious withdrawal symptoms.
I miss 2016 and 2017, I was one of the best players in my area because I love to walk and get outside. Then pay to win features were introduced like remote raids, boring gift grinding; sitting on the sofa became a more efficient way of levelling up than actually going outside. The radius bonus has benefitted drivers by enabling them to reach gyms that they previously had to walk to. The in person irl community drifted apart and died.
I want the game to reward effort, to reward socialising and to be immersive.
Even if they feel the heat, and revert the changes for me at least, it would be to late. As Mystic discussed, this is like the 100th time they screwed the community over, they will apologize in a couple of months, lie some more, promise better communication only to screw the community over again. Its a shame my hundo mewtwo or my shundo Celebi will never see the light of day again, but I refuse to play a game ran by people who keep on lying.
This hit the spot, like most I started when it came out and played through for a year. I came back in 2022 and fell in love, started walking 40km a week spending $50-$100 a month and exploring places I generally never went. I have spent a total of 10 hours playing and spent $1 since the raid pass increase. I haven’t been as active(which is really the most depressing thing) and I haven’t been exploring as much either. I used to meet up with 10-30 people every week for raid hour and meet up with pogo buddies once a month for spotlight hour, I haven’t seen any of them for weeks. I also used to watch tons of videos for pogo for pvp, raid counters, prep for future events and now I have watched maybe 3-4 videos this being one of them.
At this point I’m not sure what I want. To become a free to play player, quit the game completely, or fight for change. Thank you for the history lesson it really help to show a returning player the severity of Niantics actions, the depth of their betrayal per their own words.
You crushed this video, thanks for making this! Perfectly summed up my feelings: past, present, and future. Something has gotta change because I’m so checked out and this was one of my favorite communities/hobbies
Wow i dont even play pogo anymore but i still decided to watch the video and i absolutely loved it! Great energy, music etc
Yeah really awsome watching all youtubers catch 100 shadow mewtwo from this weekend event and there I was in my local city hoping someone will show up at a gym.... The game is totally dissbalanced right know, I agree there should be a limit to remote raids, but releasing content like shadow raids and leaving out a huuuge part of your player base out just cause they dont have a local community is trash. They could have at least given everyone the possibility to complete 3 remote raids for the whole weekend so that everyone can participate...but nooo
As a 2016 PoGo grinder, I'm level 47 atm. I no longer play PoGo like I used to, I basically quit 2021, but there is still something PoGo in me, I feel like coming back soon.
I’m a truck driver and I drive across the USA and I remember I started playing when the game came out. U couldn’t believe there was promotions in gas stations if u were level 20 u would get a free candy bar stuff like that! Everyone was into it! It was something else
It was crazy how many people used to play it
Pokemon Go, Overwatch, Grand Theft Auto... All games that I love and that are deaf to thier communities. It's saddening. The exceptions to that are Fortnite and Snowrunner which are thriving because they listen to the players.
Yup fortnite is the best example of what game developers listening to the community
What happened with gta?
@@alexhughes2754 No updates. Paid subscription for top content. No major map expansion for free roam for a 10 year old game. Price raises on in game content that's been in the game for years.
Nah Epic Games doesn't listen to their Fortnite community either.
Didn't touch on the fact that Niantic is likely making double the money by selling our data. Hence the push to get back outside.
I've played the game nonstop since 2016, and a huge problem I still struggle to this day is the lack of support for not so large cities. For example, I lived in the 5th biggest city of Brazil and there were close to none pokestops/gyms in the city, but that didn't stop the Pokemon GO craze in 2016 and, of course, the huge drop of the player base soon after. But for an insistent player such as myself, there were no presencial events, and even when I paid for events such as community days, the spawn rate of Pokemon was ridiculously low!! I don't know how I was able to keep motivated in the game. Nowadays I live in a bigger city, but I'm almost quitting the game for good :(
Damn the fifth biggest city in Brazil had only a few???
Just stop playing this game. It was fun for like a week. Enjoy the big city instead! There's much more to do in major cities
I play Pokemon Go every day
This is such a great overview of what went down. Really measured and pretty unbiassed. Niantic would make a good case study on the long term effects when a business works against their community and customer base.
Great video! There were a lot of new players that joined during the pandemic, so the bonuses were all they knew. When Niantic nerfed them, it was a straight nerf to their entire experience of the game.
I think a lot of botched/ rip off events deserved to be mentioned. Egg events with terrible odds, then changing shiny odds mid event, and Niantic even forgetting to turn on the shiny at least one time.
I haven’t really seen this angle discussed much, but I know I’m not the only one that actually did MORE in-person raids before the nerf. It gave me a chance to successfully reciprocate for the remote invitations I’d get (and I was doing A LOT of remote raids).
Now it feels like the community *can’t* be as helpful as it used to be, because everyone will prioritize their own raids/catches over using a pass on another copy of something you’ve already caught 5+ times.
This video was really well made, thank you
Lololol just spotted myself 5:49-5:52 SF Eevee Community Day 2018. Good times :)
Forgot to mention that when shiny Heracross was debuted , a regional to Florida, they removed all wild spawns and locked them behind raids for players that natively had Heracross spawns. You covered a lot of mess ups but there are so many little things like that that have worn down players like me. Honestly if they just give us back normal remote raids with no cap, and give us back our 30 sec-1min spawn incense id be happy, as i cant leave the house often. When they got rid of incense effectiveness and the backlash came, they band aid it with 1 hour incense (instead of the normal 30 min incense) with crappy effectiveness. like great.... i get what, 3 more spawns maybe? I've been so annoyed and disgusted with Niantic ever since 2021. 2018-2020 were def the highlights and i miss it so much honestly.
After the remote raids nerf I tried to adapt to the new play style, started to do lots of in-person raids with the green passes that I've got and never used before (While heavily relying on remote invites), and less than two months later I have lost all of the interest I once had in this game. It's been at least a week since I last did a raid and now I even forget to open the app for the daily catch and spin streak. Even shadow Mewtwo didn't ignite that spark back. It's a matter of days before I uninstall this game and move on with my life entirely. What a shame that Niantic is so determined to fly this plane into the ground.
Facts. I haven’t done a raid in about 3 weeks. And I used to spend so much money on this game.
@xsevenwolfx2395 I have not spent a penny since the remote raids died. Even on egg incubators, I just refuse to do so while the company stomps all over the good will it had built up. I log in on community days, get the shiny and then do not open the app until next community day.
It hurts because no one plays around my city anymore and i can't do any of the raids without online players anymore. So i couldn't even participate in the shadow event since it was local only
Same
Terrible planning for rural players, I get out and play but still bend me over
@@daveboycott374 yeah. I still try to give the game a chance but they keep on making it worse
Personally what makes it worse is the fact that shadow mewtwo was only some stops so those of us who walk, bike, or are disabled struggled to get around from just how far they were spawning from each other at times. Like a bunch would spawn in an area and then once they finished they would spawn on the complete opposite end of the city. It really shouldve been just every gym. Also kinda silly that we cant remove frustration considering its a rocket shadow event...
@DigiPidgy that's very true, I didn't have a single one spawn for the longest time and whenever one did, it'd be all the across town or somewhere annoying to get to as well
All of the features that fixed the game were suggested 7 months before release in the beta forums. PoGo plummeted because when we suggested buddy Pokémon or battles Niantic ignored it.
I started playing Pokémon Go with my son the end of 2019. I remember receiving my first raid ticket for Regigigas. I met up with raiders in person and it was awesome. I got invited to the local Facebook group for raids and that was how I know my local community. When the pandemic hit, remote raids changed the game. I used to raid a ton, it was a chance to finally get that hundo legendary. I took a break in mid 2022. When I came back about a little over a month ago, the momentum for raiding has never been the same. The price of remote raiding is crazy, and now the limits put on it mean that the chance of catching that hundo legendary are slim to none. Niantic shot themselves in the greedy foot with that. With inflation hitting hard, they should have kept the prices the same. I still love Pokémon go, but it’s just not the same.
Can we just appreciate how much work he put into this video? I see you my guy🌟
The remote raids didn't effect people going outside and playing if anything it made more people go outside and want to play more it brought more communities together more people could play and have fun and now they destroyed
They think they could go back to 2016 when the whole world played this game, but that will never happen again. Nobody in my area plays pogo actively. The pokemon in a nearby gym have been there for months without having a single fight. Guess I‘ll never get a Shadow mewto, or even a normal legendary
For someone that lives in a rural area the nerf to remote passes has stopped me and my group from doing multiple raids in a day and when doing a raid in person everyone sits in their car does the raid and leaves so basically went back to what it was like before remote passes.
@@taki7546 They bragged about how cool those special gems were that calmed down the enraged shadow pokemon, but I kept encountering a glitch where the pokemon weren't "enraged". So I couldn't use them. Until Mewtwo day I couldn't find anything but 1 star raids, so when Mewtwo launched I thought I would see if it was a glitch or if I just couldn't use the gems on 1 star raids, but I couldn't even use them on Mewtwo.
So much nostalgia seeing all those clips from over the years 🥲
Same ugh 😩
At the end of the day they got greedy, the same way streaming services got greedy. There was no point to increasing the price on remote passes besides them wanting more money.
I honestly feel like they want me to lose interest and I am
Beyond frustrated today. Spent all weekend using Campfire and Discord trying to find groups to do Mewtwo raids with. Only was able to get a group for 1 raid. One. For the entire weekend. I live in the suburbs of the capital city of my state, so it is not a small town. But at the places with the most gyms, where players were most likely to go, there was only one raid every 2 to 3 hrs. They should have cluster scheduled raids to encourage people to go to these places. Nobody went to our park that is recommended by PoGo as the best place to play in the city. We are going out. We are trying. And that's still not good enough for Niantic.
Basically stopped playing after the remote raid price increase. I have no passion for the game now.
To be honest though, it’s nice, I forgot what the world actually looked like as I’ve been walking around for years with my head in a screen
I am disabled, and I bloody love Pokemon, including Pokémon go. So the remote raid removal struck me hard. Some days I can’t leave the house and I still want to play. :/
Lots of people still playing.
Yes in fact I only play this game because it’s not playable from home. People can still remote raid. They just have to work harder for it and they can’t stay at home all day.
Pokemon Go is over. Thanks Niantic, you ruined one of the best games in history.
Yeah i feel like they want it to die intentionally
how is it over if this was the best weekend in the last years? felt like the beggining😍
Thank you for this concise video. The whole situation just makes me so tremendously sad. I've been with the game since the very beginning, have had annoyances with it at times, however it always generally remained fun enough for me not to give up on it completely. But more and more I too get the feeling that the game may well shut down for good as more and more players leave, too frustrated with the decisions being made. And it really is frutrating; With most other games, one gets tremendously frustrated over any blatant cash grabs. However with Pokémon Go, players are implicitly encouraging and asking for such cash grabs, so long as it provides an enjoyable experience; this through incenses being useful as they were before, remote raids being properly available and so on. It could be easy money on Niantic's behalf, and one that players encourage, too, yet here we are.
And even if they wish to stubbornly cling to this whole "make people go outside and play", I feel like they should have kept up all the current perks that keep the game viable, while introducing updates that makes real-life play viable, enjoyable and worthwhile, to the point the alternative "stay at home" methods are not too relevant anymore. For instance, many people may not care about remote raids per se in a sense of "I'm too lazy to leave my house", but because it simply was the only opportunity to do raids at all. As a person living in a rural area myself, my only options at clearing legendary raids were to join raids remotely, or to "go out and explore" by hosting a local raid for others to join remotely. But now with these "in-person only" raids, I find myself missing out entirely on very elusive, major events like Hoopa, Regidrago and shadow Mewtwo. If anything, the only possibility I'd have to actually partake would be to intentionally break the game's rules (account sharing to a friend in a large city, multi-accounting to solo a raid with some 8 accounts, or spoofing outright). These new changes are doing the opposite of "encouraging me to go outside and exploring"; they are taking away any incentive to do so, as I know walking to the nearby gym for that shadow Mewtwo is a futile waste of time. Meanwhile stuff like this could be easily resolved by making more gyms/raids available anywhere, and making sure people can do them solo one way or another. If they wish to encourage social play, they could throw in additional bonuses for clearing raids with multiple people. It's not impossible, and a great deal of players would likely be satisfied with stuff like that, then would have no qualms to see remote raids largely fade out (which may unfortunately not be the case for these with accessibility issues however).
But no, instead they simply take away the positive changes that actually allowed everyone to enjoy the game at their own pace, whilst giving little to nothing in return to actually make playing in-person feasible for a large deal of players.
And on top of that, there is not even the mention of how adventure sync has been malfunctioning for several months now, while to boot many recent events revolve around egg hatching. On one hand I generally can no longer participate in the raid events, on the other hand I cannot passively hatch eggs by logging in every so often during breaks, as I go about my day in which I have walked around quite a bit, making me also miss outo n the hatching events. Consistently missing out on a great deal of otherwise fun content can rapidly turn the game from "fun though mildly frustrating" to a downright miserable, unenjoyable experience.
I truly hope they will change course for the better. I truly believe that people love this game, want to keep on loving this game, or get back into loving this game, and people are trying real hard to be patient about all of this in hopes of seeing it all get better instead of having the game die out entirely. But months upon months of poor decisions that lead down a rabbithole of frustrations is making it very hard for the playerbase to remain patient.
Loved this video, thank you for being so honest and informative about the history! Really enjoyed reliving the journey in good detail!
My issue with the game is that it drains a phones battery really quickly, you really need a battery bank to play for multiple hours. And another factor early on was when they banned radar apps that helped me know exactly where are the rare Pokémons
I've played a little of the game but it always gets old for me at some point, the most I played was I think 1 year after the pandemic. It was very interesting to learn about the entire history of the game since launch, it's so weird that they seem to be ignoring the players now after they were listening to them at some point.
this was very well done. great breakdown of its history, the highs and lows, and the choices that led the game there
To me it is absolutely insane that they continue to push the narrative of wanting people outside. WHO CARES????? Games are for the user to enjoy and the developer to provide. How we play it should be up to us. If I choose to sit at home and play it then it should be my decision. Has everyone forgotten that there are no leaderboards or prizes??? What I have in my dex is of little importance to anyone but myself. To put all these restrictions and limitations doesn't make any sense until you remember the fact that Niantic gets sponsorship from local business when they drive foot traffic to that business and then it all makes sense. This is why they force all this stupid stuff onto the game. Fact of the matter is they say its about getting out just to hide the real reason and where they make a big if not the biggest chunk of their cash.
They want you to walk around so they can sell your location data to advertisers
Data, my boy, data. That's where the top dollar is hiding.
I bet they have a secret partnership with data companies to get you to use
data when you go out and they profit more from that
I have to be honest, I think they are not wrong. They made a gamr called Pokemon GO. They inventwd the game and its core feature is outside exploration, which also makes it unique to any other game. If you want to play a game at home then play any other game. I still cant grasp why people are upset about going outside to play Pokemon GO. Its in the name goddamit.
Start spoofing bro
No trading, no friends and no battling against one another in 2016 is what killed this game
They killed a majority of their audience when they doubled the price of simple raid boss battles.... it went from 1$ usd each chance to 2$ just to have a chance to fight and catch a legendary..... that's insane!!!
This was a great breakdown. It is well informed and touches on so much of what happened to Pokemon go. I do wish he would have put his foot down a little hard about what might happen in the future. Niantic is about to kill this game and I'm not sure they care. Soon people will refer to Pokemon go like they do to Raid shadow legends. It will instill a feeling of body cringe at how much you loved something that abused you and your wallet
And I know people forget that Niantic is the most ambitious and the best at what they do, and people now have their expectations incredibly high and would like their hand to be held through it all. People say it is the remote raid nerf that is killing the game, but couldn’t it be said that the remote raid INTRODUCTION, the thing which Niantic put off its vision for to help the community FOR THE MOMENT, had caused this? People say that Niantic is out of touch… but what if the community has been out of touch with Niantic’s vision ever since the things which are being taken now were introduced? And keep in mind, besides for these things, the game has improved dramatically in many ways. This is something many do not realize or would like to admit.
@@rioluwu5921 woah you are one of the biggest dick riders I have seen this week. Good luck, I hope your able to help yourself get out of that state of mind
The only video game ever to make people touch grass
Honestly I wonder why niantic didn’t make the Apple Watch integration better? Like auto catch; auto poke spin at stops; even syncing during workouts to help walking buddy get an extra friendship boost during activity.
i'm a female honduran married to a taiwanese and still remember the craziness in daan park when game was released, on 2016, but the way level up in game has made lot of people away and stop playing the game.
I mean I still play it😅
Now people don't touch grass
This is probably the greatest video i have ever seen about Pokemon GO current state. To me, this video has 2 things.
1st: It shows that Niantic has the potential to (re)build the game at a point for everyone to play
2nd: A message to them that if they won't take the community seriously they'll lose more and more people.
Thank you MYSTIC7 for this upload. We needed it, *they needed it.*
This game really likes me to touch grass outside to catch a Pokemon
Aw man . I’ve just started grinding again more frequently after being super casual over the past 7 years lol . Hope it doesn’t fall off completely
I’m loving shiny hunting lol
The game in entirely held together by community bonds. Niantic is only pulling in the other direction as much as they think their doing the opposite
Summary of the video:
Niantic does something, everyone happy
Niantic does something else, everyone pissed
I returned to Go in 2021, really played a lot, but the remote raid nerf made me completely stop playing again.
Agree with the other guy, this video is very well made and its clear there have been a lot of hours behind making it.
Keep it up! - as you always have.
(Hope Niantic soon is making some good decisions - This shadow raid event have been very nice tbh.)
I cant do any of the shadow mewtwo raids without remote raid passes
Then use campfire to coordinate raids with the local community which you probably don’t realize exists
I stopped playing it years ago. It was clear that, as a rural player, they didn't care a single bit about my experience in the game. It's nonexistent outside of heavily populated cities. Which is absolutely stupid.
PokémonGo was such a letdown from the start in 2016. The game not being what it was hyped up to be cost it a lot of players for sure, but those of us who love Pokémon stuck around to give it a try. I think it not being virtual Pokémon game that is like the handheld games and it never becoming like one is something it can’t recover from. You gotta learn to love it for what it is. I took it back up on 2019 to make my walks more interesting, but I couldn’t ever fall in love with it so it was easy to put it away. If they could ever make our Pokémon dreams come true of raising a team to challenge gyms and become champions that would be amazing. The ultimate dream is the ability to take on the other careers in the Pokeworld, being researchers, breeders, gym leaders…and being able to interact with our Pokémon as if they were real, that’s the ultimate dream.
hopefully they can either make it a decent game again or they just get rid of it entirely. Pokemon GO has ruined the mainline pokemon games and deminished the value of hunting shiny pokemon. it was great in 2016 and thats it. the paywalls and community days tarnished the mainline games. anyone who plays pokemon go today is a disgrace to society.....
this is why people spoof
bring back old remote rading then ⬆️
Nope they won't they deserve every bit of this. I hope they go bankrupt and someone else stepps in cut ties with Niantic as a whole
@@charlesschwartz7284 yes sadly
they have brought the old, presencial raiding back
@@andregustavo1130 and it's killing the game wether you believe it or not
Please!!!!
I remember just not caring about the rollbacks in 2020-2021
Or the remote raid price hike, I find raids tedious anyway
Not that I interact with the go community much anyway, I just play when I feel like it
as a clash royale player who recently just joined the pokemon go community yall lucky asf. Pokemon go way better than clash royale. if you think niantic developers suck just look at clash roylae and you'll feel infintely better. i promise yall.
It's been a year since I last played Clash Royale. Recently I saw a video about some of the changes, including the mega knight evolution. To be honest, I thought it was a mode 😂😂
@@David-rb9lh evolution megaknight....
well made. remote raid is still there as an option, but niantic want to go back to the roots - in person raiding. i dont get why you cant move on. just stop playijg if you are not happy.
Shut up Niantic paid Troll.
i still think that there is a chance they meet us in the middle with the remote raid passes. maybe not fully back to what it was, but something like back to normal prices of 100 coins per pass.
sheesh it’s still just as fun, tons of people still play. and they’ve added a bunch of new features i think it’s actually at its best right now. it’s just not trending anymore but the true fans still enjoy it
Another correction. Johto tour felt underwhelming and from what I had a negative response. The positive was wild legendary. Free shiny gyarados. I didn’t mirror the community and enjoy it but didn’t enjoy Hoenn tour. It was a let down since I was used to getting every Pokémon for the dex caught/evolved/traded
I mainly used the remote raids for legendaries and megas I didn’t have since I’m not a serious competitive player and since the only new mega this season has been pinsir and all the legendary Pokémon I don’t have have been locked to elite raids (I’m looking at you galar regis) it’s not as much an issue for me to pay more for raids but I still would’ve preferred to have an easier time hatching larvesta especially since it’s getting hotter in my area with the early summer heatwave coming in hot (pun intended)
Great overview and completely spot on. My playing has tempered off immensely thanks to the revert from the pandemic changes (I really got into it then) and the lack of any major changes to the way the game plays. It just hasn't evolved enough to remain interesting and they have increasingly locked new features behind paywalls or players and needing to party up with friends to do anything. I am a solo player and don't have a group to play because nobody else I know wants to play the game anymore. I still play it every so often mostly just a catch a day to keep my streak going or shiny check but I don't really want to bother with the events because they aren't even worth it anymore to spend the time doing it, which they made shorter recently too. Just a lot of bad parts of the game (revert of pandemic changes, lackluster events, having to rely on having a group to be able to do 5 star raids because there's hardly any people there doing them like they used to, bad spawns, shiny rates, the same 7km egg pool, remote raid nerfing, etc.) and a lack of game growth has made the game treading water.
I'd love to get back into it, but I can't see it happening with the game as constructed. The novelty may have finally worn off for me and I spent hours every day on it for years. It actually felt nice to go out to a new city and not be worried about regionals or getting Pokestops or gyms. I love the game and appreciate what all they put into it, but the excitement isn't really there for me anymore. Surprised it took 7 years for it to start to feel this way, pretty impressive honestly. I thought it would have come and go after a year or two at most.
Thank you for this, We need our loudest voices to bring back the raid engagement levels, and force them sack Cruella from the board. Thank you for not being scared like the other "poke-influencers" who "chose" to remain neutral in this battle.
Problem is he was a scared influencer the last year. Now he is just doing a history. The game died this year. My community when I quit playing - the gyms hadn’t changed colors in 61 days. During COVID they changed every 4-8 hours. I have 4 gyms in my neighborhood- 61 days. No changes. The only person who used to stand up for community was BranTan now the rest of them are seeing a dying game and probably their funds dropping from less views on UA-cam
Mark Zuckerberg .. what is he doing here
The gym at the end of my block changes every few hours lol. This game isn’t even close to dead
@@dg4720 disagree - the game is dying/dead. You’re area maybe active or it maybe pokebots playing for IVs/Raids. When I can do a raid day and not find 2 other people and see former community day places empty it’s a good tell its dead
@dg4720 I live in the city, and I've seen a huge decrease in activity except for like the same 5 players taking over the local gyms. In the city.
I startedback in 2016 but due to the lack of pokestops I stopped, I checked in back Jan. 2023 we got a gym and pokestop right in my backyard, came back to the game since then
So basically, if you wanna play Pokémon Go, you gotta be a UA-camr, rich, or just have a lot of free time. Its impossible to have good pokemons withount grinding it
People got lazy. That’s it.
In the beginning, all you could do was catch Pokémon. They should’ve released the game so you could battle other trainers like you can now. It was very limited, but still fun while it lasted.
The addition of frequent events was definitely crucial into keeping people playing, especially myself
Great video. I only played it for a few months in the infamous 2016 summer rush, only to quit after feeling like the progression was too slow and unrewarding. Very interesting to see how it's progressed since I left it, though I still have very little appetite to try it out again.
Recently there was a 4x xp and Dust event, I didn't realise and only just started playing again. I was leveling so fast and getting so much dust to level up spacific Pokimon, now my xp and dust grind has slowed way down.
It sucks so much that small towns and cities get screwed. The Pokémon here sucks, low levels, little amount of pokestops, little amount of gyms, barely anyone plays so it’s hard to do raids. I really want to play this game cuz I like Pokémon but its hard
It’s weird though, I came back to the game and I’m enjoying it so much…
This is probably because I don’t have the bias of all the things that happened before, but it’s still and awesome game!
Very similar situation. I played in 2016 (before the official release in my country by side loading). I stopped in 2017 probably, I don’t even know why. Just got bored I guess.
I picked it up again this summer and I’m having a lot of fun, probably as you said, because I didn’t get the good, and other than the hype back in 2016, it feels better made now.
Raids tho, I just don’t bother. I have yet to find a single person to raid with. Levels 1-3 can be solo’d but the coolest shit is at 4 and 5 and I can’t find anyone.
SilphRoad getting dumpstered is possibly one of the worst things that could’ve happened to the game (I didn’t use it back in the day and it got killed a few weeks after I picked up this year). I’m surprised the video didn’t mention it.
@@TechWiz717 Same thing here! I picked it up a few days ago on a whim and have been having fun! I haven't even left the house with it yet LOL
Granted I am in a really good area and can battle and catch things just casually sitting in my garage and when I do leave the house I'll have more fun because there are two gyms and a ton of centers less than five minutes away. But I caught shiny abra yesterday morning around 2 am. And have had lots to do still in the house and haven't put money into it yet.
I imagine getting to raids based on what you say about people may be stressful. >>
as a ftp player, the remote raid change didnt really impact me, but i understand the issues it caused. personally for me, this is by far the most fun and excited ive ever been to play the game. theres an event almost every week, and i actually have people to play with. being home from college makes it hard to play, and i do think something needs to be done for rural players to help make the game a little more fair, and wayfayer doesnt seem to help since legitimate submission get rejected for no reason. i do know the game has flaws, but i actually enjoy it a lot
$4k in the game already
@@Polaroxide Who asked?
@@MetalRaimon no one he said he was ftp I was just saying I could never not pay money I’m too much of a gotta have it now and have no patience lol
@@Polaroxide ye cool yet u flexing the fact u dumped 4k on a game on almost every comment rofl. it's not a flex my guy
@@MetalRaimon and your point ?
I love this game now far much more than the beginning or at least tied. This current version is amazing
Seeing how Pokémon GO affected the development of main games size gen 7 , this is kinda good news to me
I hope they will stop putting special event in special city because i don’t wanna pay 4,000 € for a game just because Niantic don’t want to be fair .. like he tell the shiny rate were boosted in Las Vegas ..
It’s still sad that such a fun game was ruined be the creators of the game are a player that lives in a rural area I have almost stop playing the game as I can’t do most of the new events as there in person like the recent mewtwo events could not even bring one down
And I know people forget that Niantic is the most ambitious and the best at what they do, and people now have their expectations incredibly high and would like their hand to be held through it all. People say it is the remote raid nerf that is killing the game, but couldn’t it be said that the remote raid INTRODUCTION, the thing which Niantic put off its vision for to help the community FOR THE MOMENT, had caused this? People say that Niantic is out of touch… but what if the community has been out of touch with Niantic’s vision ever since the things which are being taken now were introduced? And keep in mind, besides for these things, the game has improved dramatically in many ways. This is something many do not realize or would like to admit.
@@rioluwu5921 I get what your saying, but with Niantic making good Pokémon hard to get for people who live in rural areas or places with no Pokémon go players, it is much easier to get those Pokémon from a remote raid from a place where there IS many players. And making new Pokémon locked by a paywall has nothing to do with making people go outside. What they SHOULD do is buff the in-person events so players are more likely to be motivated to walk and go outside instead of nerf the global features. and stop sucking Niantic's dick, they fucked up
@@rioluwu5921 bot
For me the part that killed the enjoyment of catching was shadow pokemons damage bonus. The slow rollout of pokemon (like raids) meant if I power up and invest in this pokemon it'll be out classed later on by a shadow version. It made every power up feel like a total waste of stardust. I still played heavily at this point as I was an xp grinder becoming the highest xp player in my area by a long shot. Almost in a twist of irony when the level cap was increased this was the final nail in the coffin. I was excited to get the new levels and managed to get lv 50 only 2 weeks behind when it was first possible. I enjoyed the challenges on the way through the levels like the 999 excellent throws which I made in a single day. But afterwards I stopped playing anything close to what I had been. The game had been completed. I was never going to travel the world or trade spoofers so my pokedex was as complete as it could be. Nowadays I still open the app where I am to see whats around but I don't go out at all for events or raids. Another aspect of remote raiding was it killed off the in person meeting that often occurred pre-pandemic, everything that made the game fun was gone.
The gofest 2022 in person was a let down. Only unique Pokémon were the rotom and cowboy snorlax. The elemental monkey were the “regional” but was released to the public
They actively choose not to listen to the playerbase.
It is a choice!!!