I'd be interesting to see you repeat the accuracy test with both types of rival rounds but using an older Rival blaster, say a Kronos... See if that optimized barrel is actually a thing or not.
I do like everything about the blaster except the priming handle. Not a fan of that and afraid I might break it. Also I think there is something wrong with your blaster cuz other people I've seen got average above 90 fps
@@ProtoAzula unless you’re able to get one with a fun switch (which is very unlikely given that you need to have a dealer’s permit) you’re paying upwards of $1500 for a pistol caliber carbine, which are already largely overpriced.
Yeah the guy above is right, unless you have one in full auto It's laughably overpriced for a semi auto and you don't get the full potential of the Super-V system or whatever it's called
@@ProtoAzula oh, please. No major military or police service actually uses the Vector, Kriss offers the licence to its "sci-fi" design out any video game company or movie set they can manage on the cheap (they even told Infinity Ward they could use the Vector for free) to get it in pop culture as advertising, and then makes its money off the overpriced and unwhelming semi-auto civilian models and their cut of officially-licenced airsoft models. The Vector just isn't practical in real life. The Super-V system is worse than the roller-delayed blowback in the over 50 year old HK MP5, let alone its contemporaries like the short-stroke gas piston SIG MPX. The ergonomics are puzzling, with an awkward shape to hold and strangely placed controls, the safety is in an incredibly unorthodox position for such a recent design. It uses Glock magazines, which sounds great for compatibility, but it would have to use the long extended magazines anyway to prevent having to reload all the time. The double-stack, single feed design isn't really all that appropriate for a submachine gun, let alone one with such a high rate of fire, with the automatic models clocking in at around 1,200 RPM. Most successful SMGs that are still around today are at 900 RPM or lower. It's like the Desert Eagle; it has a unique appearance and acts quite differently than the more real-world effective options. It appears on the big screen and small screen alike all the time due to this, but neither of them actually see much combat use due to being impractical and expensive compared to better options.
i'd love to see a flywheal conversion of this make it burt out the entire mag in an instant like an R99 from apex. with the plunger assembly removed there's be space for a battery and probably a small solenoid
I've got the Fate and the Vision, got 2 of each actually, and they both seem to shoot hard and fairly accurate, but all my Rival blasters are pretty accurate. I think you got a dud blaster there.
I feel like the vision I got hits pretty hard (i dont have a crono) and it's definitely accurate as hell, it could be just an issue with the one you used in this vid
But only at 13-15 feet from the target. Clearly the further away the target, the more pronounced any accuracy differences will become. And 15 feet isn't very far for testing rounds that will easily fly 4 times that distance.
Am i the only one who wants a full auto blaster with a priming handle? Theres something about it thats super satisfying. Performance can be meh if it activates neurons lol
Little surprised you didn't mention on of the neat features; the follower slide has an extension that covers the loading port when it's all the way back up, so there's no chance of rounds accidentally falling out.
Yeah I thought so too! Has the look of the round magazine nob and the slanted grip angle. Pretty sick looking design they got going with these new rival series. 👍🏻
I ordered 4 of these and 4 pathfinders for my indoor nerf arena business. Love both of them. Ordering 4 more Pathfinders, I prefer those the most, maybe the best rival blasters every made in my opinion
I went from 90s Nerf guns to the Elite Recon to Rival Perses and Roundhouse... Idk how anyone complains about power and speed all these new guns are INSANE...
A couple years out; the Fate is definitely my favorite of the initial three. Ergonomics wise, it’s perfect for me, and the stock performance is awesome. When I play in an arena, I almost always pick the Fate.
Considering that Nerf were pretty much the pioneers of modern foam dart/ball blasters, and Zuru have been imitating Nerf for years, I think we can let Hasbro off this time. Besides, the much older Nerf Sideswipe and Flex were a similar, if somewhat curvier design.
Of course, if you look at it logically, the design isn't that much different to the much older Sideswipe and it's smaller sibling. They all have sharply angled magazines in front of the grip. Typically, it's Zuru X-Shot that copies Hasbro Nerf, who have been making blasters and coming up with new ideas for a far longer period than Zuru.
I think this blaster would be great if it had a Spectre-like prime. The Nitefinder-style prime would be OK if it had a spring return, or it just stuck out, though.
I love this on sound alone, the looks are already making this S tier but the sound is so satisfying. I was comparing it to the Curved Rival and that is a nightmare compared to Vision
I'm very much looking forward to a hopefully exhaustive video looking at the new vs old ammo. Put a few hundred rounds of each through a somehow firmly held in place Perses to be able to see a broader pattern. Do the same with a Hades (to see Springer vs Flywheeler, saying Hades just cause it's super high capacity for easier testing). Test from 15 feet, 30 feet, 40 feet, etc. Maybe even try hooking a fan up to blow from the side between the blaster and the target if you want to test wind. I really want to know if I should be looking to get new rounds into my college HvZ pool, or if I am going to not care.
@@WalcomS7 I mean, this is true, but it also isn't. I like running my Hades and hanging to the back of the group, trying to take lots of long range shots at the charging horde. A shot hitting or missing at medium range can be the difference between an ally dying or not sometimes. Of course, it's not a massive deal usually, but if there's a flatly better version of the ammo, why not see if I can use it when possible. It most definitely won't be a game changer for me or most any HvZ player, but I don't want to miss a flat upgrade from simply swapping ammo if that's something I could just do.
@@Eragonnogare I like your logic ...cuz why do we mod, to make it better if we can ...who wants to shoot at something 10 times and hit it once ... it gets frustrating! So I see where your coming from.Thanks
Speaking of internal mags, my local Target (East Coast, US) had the Sideswipe and Takedown on clearance for $9 each as well as several other blasters like the Flex, Ultra 4, and Meteor 2-pack for $7 each. YMMV, but it might be worth checking the clearance section of your local store!
The vision does look like a kris vector smg, but single action pullback, it’s compact, similar size, bigger pull handle, and the ammo capacity is 8, which is the same as the takedown, and the reaper overwatch blaster.
when he test's the blaster using the gunpower snt, there is literally a rival pathfinder on the table. It's not properly visible because you can only see the stock of the pathfinder.
Hasbro cynic here ... The adjustability of the sights is both part of the "accuracy" gimmic and sets up user-error as a deflection for any complaints that the product is not delivering the promised accuracy improvement. Also walcom, In the unboxing/initial reaction segment I was losing the black parts of the blaster in the black of your t-shirt. Maybe make a point to wear contrasting colors to avoid this in future vids. Cheers.
8 rd cap is decent for a side arm/ secondary blaster. Thats not a very holsterable shape though. Gonna have to depend on that sling point on the grip. And if its uncomfortable to use, thats a significant strike against it. I dont think this replaces the Kronos
Unlike with the Kronos, having separate access to the magazine tube divorced from the action of cycling the breach means that would actually be useful too, instead of getting in your way.
This has almost similar internals to a Takedown, so It begs the question, can this also shotgun buy loading multiple rounds in the chamber using the jam switch?
I have a similar chronograph and its nearly impossible to get accurate chronograph readings (especially on rival & mega) because the hop up you always seem to graze the inside. Upgraded to a Caldwell which is so much easier to use
I can't see Rival ever being accurate. You can try and try, but Like a French officer once noticed, making the balls more pointed makes them more accurate and shoot much farther. That guy was Claude Minié, and everytime I hear someone talk about the accuracy of Rival, I just think about how the Minie ball just makes sense aerodynamically, and why Rival can't be as accurate as a normal dart. One more reason to put that half dart conversion kit in the knockout, and add magazines to these other blasters. Good on hasbro for making more kronos skins, because the kronos is just a really freaking good platform for mods
I think you may have had a defective blaster? My vision backs a serious 89 fps punch it seems like these accurival guns have less care taken into consistent manufacturing
Hmmm. Like you I am hoping to like this one the best, though the Fate is excellent for a single shot Rival blaster. I have another week or two to wait for mine to arrive.
hey big fan and I was thinking of getting back into nerf and was wondering what blaster I should get as like a starter to get back in the hobby. P.S love the videos keep up the great work.
All depends on you really, If you want to get competitive and play with the big bois, an Adventure Force Pro/Dart Zone Pro blaster will work for you! If you are more about family or friends plinking nearby or in a backyard then the Villainator, Spectrum, Rival blasters, or even a Reflex 6 will work out!
I’m curious if it will fire other brands of ammo. Our league uses Headshot ammo and my Sideswipe will not chamber it. The Vision looks to be of similar design.
The Vision is actually internally dissimilar to a Sideswipe, not a reshell - it's basically a Kronos on the inside, instead of "an Apollo without the gears". I point that out because it chambers rounds by the follower spring pushing them up into the breach and the front of the plunger tube shoving them forward into the fixed barrel; the Sideswipe has a moving barrel that first travels forwards, and then gets pulled backwards back over the round that the follower spring lifts up into the breach.
Good to see you back into your element my brother and yeah I do need us get my hands on these new rivals. Thanks for being my favorite nerf otaku.....and regular weeb my man ✌😊❗
This is faster to reload and top up, but the Takedown is Pump-action and feels more solid. Both are basically the same price, and this looks better with more detail than the Takedown; but I would go with the Takedown.
![[REVIEW] Nerf Rival Pathfinder, Vision, & Fate | Group Review](/img/n.gif)
Just one left to go: the PATHFINDER! I've got my work cut out for me.
I can't wait, (ur my favorite youtuber)
@@the_icon_of_sin_94 same
cant wait
"I FOUND the PATH to Nerf Rivals future." 😏
hopefully its cross compatible with our previous rival magazines
Really digging the color scheme for this series right now!
It's fantastic. Definitely my favorite since Elite.
It's awesome
It gives a retro aesthetic that I really did, also hi bread!
I'd be interesting to see you repeat the accuracy test with both types of rival rounds but using an older Rival blaster, say a Kronos...
See if that optimized barrel is actually a thing or not.
that what i was thinking
The Kronos's muzzle velocity is really low tho
I’m guessing when he reviews the pathfinder the title will be “PATHFINDER is my favorite legend in apex legends
I'd be gravely disappointed if it's not
I hear apex legends is for gamers who get a laid and I'm an asexual otherwise known as an overwatch player
Or, "The PATHFINDER of rival"
Same
I think it’ll be “Nerf’s PATHFINDER to NEW RIVAL PERFORMANCE”
I do like everything about the blaster except the priming handle. Not a fan of that and afraid I might break it. Also I think there is something wrong with your blaster cuz other people I've seen got average above 90 fps
The adjustable rear sight is for elevation and wind direction. Little bit of an overkill but not a bad little feature if you know how to use it.
Would knowing how to use it make those balls not curve?
@@zeroblade6599 basically yeah because it allows you to calculate the wind
It’s like the Fennec from CoD Modern Warfare, which is itself based off of the Vector. It’s probably the coolest blaster of the trio.
Unlike the Vector, however, the Vision actually offers advantages above its counterparts that justify picking it up at its stated price point.
@@stevenbobbybills tell me you dont know about guns without telling me you dont know about guns
@@ProtoAzula unless you’re able to get one with a fun switch (which is very unlikely given that you need to have a dealer’s permit) you’re paying upwards of $1500 for a pistol caliber carbine, which are already largely overpriced.
Yeah the guy above is right, unless you have one in full auto It's laughably overpriced for a semi auto and you don't get the full potential of the Super-V system or whatever it's called
@@ProtoAzula oh, please. No major military or police service actually uses the Vector, Kriss offers the licence to its "sci-fi" design out any video game company or movie set they can manage on the cheap (they even told Infinity Ward they could use the Vector for free) to get it in pop culture as advertising, and then makes its money off the overpriced and unwhelming semi-auto civilian models and their cut of officially-licenced airsoft models.
The Vector just isn't practical in real life. The Super-V system is worse than the roller-delayed blowback in the over 50 year old HK MP5, let alone its contemporaries like the short-stroke gas piston SIG MPX. The ergonomics are puzzling, with an awkward shape to hold and strangely placed controls, the safety is in an incredibly unorthodox position for such a recent design.
It uses Glock magazines, which sounds great for compatibility, but it would have to use the long extended magazines anyway to prevent having to reload all the time. The double-stack, single feed design isn't really all that appropriate for a submachine gun, let alone one with such a high rate of fire, with the automatic models clocking in at around 1,200 RPM. Most successful SMGs that are still around today are at 900 RPM or lower.
It's like the Desert Eagle; it has a unique appearance and acts quite differently than the more real-world effective options. It appears on the big screen and small screen alike all the time due to this, but neither of them actually see much combat use due to being impractical and expensive compared to better options.
i'd love to see a flywheal conversion of this
make it burt out the entire mag in an instant like an R99 from apex. with the plunger assembly removed there's be space for a battery and probably a small solenoid
I've got the Fate and the Vision, got 2 of each actually, and they both seem to shoot hard and fairly accurate, but all my Rival blasters are pretty accurate. I think you got a dud blaster there.
Wouldn't mind a Perseus reskin/remold in the new series.
the dart dust on the front of the chronograph really adds character to these videos
BRO THE WAY THE BALL RISES is so niceeeee
Walcom sums up the Vision right here 4:49 :D
Seeing Walcom's Splatoon shirt just made me think about how NERF X Splatoon is such a missed opportunity
The pathfinder has a nice shell, I just wish It HAD A LONGER STOCK NERF
Speaking of aesthetic As a huge Fallout fan I Love the Vault Tec colors scheme...
I loved the Fate way more than I thought I would!
Now I need to see how the Pathfinder does as I have that on preorder. Fingers crossed it’s good
Pretty cool little blaster.
I think Drac's Vision had some barrel flaws. Vision seems to have QC issues.
Yeah Dracs had a wonky hop up tad and walcom's seems to be hitting soft compared to dracs
Man this thing looks like a Vector without the stock and foregrip, love it
I feel like the vision I got hits pretty hard (i dont have a crono) and it's definitely accurate as hell, it could be just an issue with the one you used in this vid
Pretty sure it's a Finisher inside, meaning it will need a new o-ring on the "breech" to seal properly
Its funny how even with the last outlier round the yellow rounds had a tighter grouping
But only at 13-15 feet from the target. Clearly the further away the target, the more pronounced any accuracy differences will become. And 15 feet isn't very far for testing rounds that will easily fly 4 times that distance.
Hooray,I've finally got the Vision and it's AWESOME.
Am i the only one who wants a full auto blaster with a priming handle? Theres something about it thats super satisfying.
Performance can be meh if it activates neurons lol
Little surprised you didn't mention on of the neat features; the follower slide has an extension that covers the loading port when it's all the way back up, so there's no chance of rounds accidentally falling out.
This one does look pretty sweet.
Am I the only one that saw that grip and sees a P08/04 Luger in it? It even has the grasping nobs of the magazine even if doesn't have any
Yeah I thought so too! Has the look of the round magazine nob and the slanted grip angle. Pretty sick looking design they got going with these new rival series. 👍🏻
wonder what the flywheel versions of these would look like
It's like a Sideswipe and a Meteor had a baby lol.
I ordered 4 of these and 4 pathfinders for my indoor nerf arena business. Love both of them. Ordering 4 more Pathfinders, I prefer those the most, maybe the best rival blasters every made in my opinion
Where is your arena?
I think nerf is finally having a return to form. I think nerf can redeem themselves here. High hopes for the future.
I went from 90s Nerf guns to the Elite Recon to Rival Perses and Roundhouse... Idk how anyone complains about power and speed all these new guns are INSANE...
A couple years out; the Fate is definitely my favorite of the initial three. Ergonomics wise, it’s perfect for me, and the stock performance is awesome. When I play in an arena, I almost always pick the Fate.
Technically that's a X-Shot Meteor clone in many ways ;) Good to see Nerf taking inspiration from the good performers. Oh what odd times.
I see I wasn't the only one to think that
Considering that Nerf were pretty much the pioneers of modern foam dart/ball blasters, and Zuru have been imitating Nerf for years, I think we can let Hasbro off this time. Besides, the much older Nerf Sideswipe and Flex were a similar, if somewhat curvier design.
I wouldn't be surprised if the there's a Nerf FUTURE in the lineup
I like the path finder the most because it looks like it’s good for reloads
Nerf: Can I Copy Your Answer?
Xshot chaos meteor: Yeah but don't make it too obvious
Also Nerf:
It IS pretty blatant isn't it?
Of course, if you look at it logically, the design isn't that much different to the much older Sideswipe and it's smaller sibling. They all have sharply angled magazines in front of the grip. Typically, it's Zuru X-Shot that copies Hasbro Nerf, who have been making blasters and coming up with new ideas for a far longer period than Zuru.
What’s up early squad
Oh nothing but my day has been good
Hi
@@the_icon_of_sin_94 ello
Good just got off the with my friend phone and started watching this vid
Ey
Surprised you didn't say the color scheme isn't pretty much Vortex ETX but in reverse, with more blue than yellow-green. Still cool to see.
This looks like it has potential. I wonder how much air is being lost in the internal mag system. The Fate looks spectacular though.
I think this blaster would be great if it had a Spectre-like prime. The Nitefinder-style prime would be OK if it had a spring return, or it just stuck out, though.
The Pathfinder has to be my absolute favorite
I love this on sound alone, the looks are already making this S tier but the sound is so satisfying. I was comparing it to the Curved Rival and that is a nightmare compared to Vision
I would be curious to convert the internal mag to a removable one to use the 12rnd ones, and exctend the shell to be more kris vectory.
I'm very much looking forward to a hopefully exhaustive video looking at the new vs old ammo. Put a few hundred rounds of each through a somehow firmly held in place Perses to be able to see a broader pattern. Do the same with a Hades (to see Springer vs Flywheeler, saying Hades just cause it's super high capacity for easier testing). Test from 15 feet, 30 feet, 40 feet, etc. Maybe even try hooking a fan up to blow from the side between the blaster and the target if you want to test wind. I really want to know if I should be looking to get new rounds into my college HvZ pool, or if I am going to not care.
It's HvZ. Buy the cheapest non-jamming ammo that isn't hard tipped as you can. Accuracy doesn't matter.
@@WalcomS7 I mean, this is true, but it also isn't. I like running my Hades and hanging to the back of the group, trying to take lots of long range shots at the charging horde. A shot hitting or missing at medium range can be the difference between an ally dying or not sometimes. Of course, it's not a massive deal usually, but if there's a flatly better version of the ammo, why not see if I can use it when possible. It most definitely won't be a game changer for me or most any HvZ player, but I don't want to miss a flat upgrade from simply swapping ammo if that's something I could just do.
@@Eragonnogare I like your logic ...cuz why do we mod, to make it better if we can ...who wants to shoot at something 10 times and hit it once ... it gets frustrating! So I see where your coming from.Thanks
Something I want to point out: This blaster has arguably better internals than the Fate; The Fate has a plastic trigger spring, the Vision does not.
This makes me have hope for nerf rival
Speaking of internal mags, my local Target (East Coast, US) had the Sideswipe and Takedown on clearance for $9 each as well as several other blasters like the Flex, Ultra 4, and Meteor 2-pack for $7 each. YMMV, but it might be worth checking the clearance section of your local store!
12:52 nice
The vision does look like a kris vector smg, but single action pullback, it’s compact, similar size, bigger pull handle, and the ammo capacity is 8, which is the same as the takedown, and the reaper overwatch blaster.
I’m loving the daily walcom
AWESOME REVIEW of the vision (very thurogh) thanks WALCOM
It works like the X-Shot Chaos. the ammunition with the hexes too
when he test's the blaster using the gunpower snt, there is literally a rival pathfinder on the table. It's not properly visible because you can only see the stock of the pathfinder.
Nah, I got won over by your Fate review, I'm buying one of them, passing on the Vision and awaiting your Pathfinder review with great interest.
Need that blaster in an NGE Unit 1 colour scheme
Keep up everything man amazing work
Hasbro cynic here ...
The adjustability of the sights is both part of the "accuracy" gimmic and sets up user-error as a deflection for any complaints that the product is not delivering the promised accuracy improvement.
Also walcom, In the unboxing/initial reaction segment I was losing the black parts of the blaster in the black of your t-shirt. Maybe make a point to wear contrasting colors to avoid this in future vids.
Cheers.
maybe test the new rounds in one of the flywheelers perhaps the charger or a perses.
I love how this Nerf looks, best Nerf looking gun ever, reminds me of KWA Ronin TK45 and the Kriss Vectors in airsoft and irl
This thing looks more like the needler than the NERF needler
Good review! I like the design so much that I’ll mod it’s shortcomings to improve it. Hopefully they fix the QC.
Right away, I can see liking this blaster way more than the 1shot-wonder that hope someone does haft mag mod to eventually.
I got mine today for $15 and I can tell it shoots harder than yours but I do not have a chronograph.
I got two for $7.50 each on sale at Target
Honestly. I have the new 1 and this 1. This 1 shoots A LOT better the the new 1
8 rd cap is decent for a side arm/ secondary blaster. Thats not a very holsterable shape though. Gonna have to depend on that sling point on the grip. And if its uncomfortable to use, thats a significant strike against it. I dont think this replaces the Kronos
It looks pretty dang cool, but I feel like the x shot meteor's or the kronos's internal mag design is probably easier to use.
I guess the vision was designed for you to hit those nut shots
I see C02 cartridges? Could it be possible you have the new Rekt blaster?
2:28: looks down the barrel of gun
Can’t wait to see the pathfinder vid
Would love to see a return spring on that prime
Unlike with the Kronos, having separate access to the magazine tube divorced from the action of cycling the breach means that would actually be useful too, instead of getting in your way.
Hasbro is finally making good blasters how
When can there be a mag kit for this? It would be awesome
Definitely put a returning spring mod
"Nerf just go broke and make us a blaster that is perfect lol"
The mag looks like a Kriss Vector
This has almost similar internals to a Takedown, so It begs the question, can this also shotgun buy loading multiple rounds in the chamber using the jam switch?
It's probably the density of the blue rounds that make them more accurate (just a guess)
I have a similar chronograph and its nearly impossible to get accurate chronograph readings (especially on rival & mega) because the hop up you always seem to graze the inside. Upgraded to a Caldwell which is so much easier to use
Just ordered it thats why im watching😅
Edit: its here and its pretty cool🎉
I can't see Rival ever being accurate. You can try and try, but Like a French officer once noticed, making the balls more pointed makes them more accurate and shoot much farther. That guy was Claude Minié, and everytime I hear someone talk about the accuracy of Rival, I just think about how the Minie ball just makes sense aerodynamically, and why Rival can't be as accurate as a normal dart. One more reason to put that half dart conversion kit in the knockout, and add magazines to these other blasters. Good on hasbro for making more kronos skins, because the kronos is just a really freaking good platform for mods
flex and fate= single shot breach load
Vision and Sideswipe = internal mag fed
Helix and Pathfinder = pump action
Thanks for the review, I can't wait for your take on the Pathfinder. Which do you prefer the X-Shot Chaos Meteor or the Vision?
The vision feels more solid in the hand.
Regards from Vienna (Austria, Europe ) Erik
I think you may have had a defective blaster? My vision backs a serious 89 fps punch it seems like these accurival guns have less care taken into consistent manufacturing
Hmmm. Like you I am hoping to like this one the best, though the Fate is excellent for a single shot Rival blaster. I have another week or two to wait for mine to arrive.
hey big fan and I was thinking of getting back into nerf and was wondering what blaster I should get as like a starter to get back in the hobby.
P.S love the videos keep up the great work.
All depends on you really,
If you want to get competitive and play with the big bois, an Adventure Force Pro/Dart Zone Pro blaster will work for you!
If you are more about family or friends plinking nearby or in a backyard then the Villainator, Spectrum, Rival blasters, or even a Reflex 6 will work out!
Looks like a vector with out the stock
It's nerf rival 2.0 but done right
I saw the third gun in the series walcom, was this intentional
word play, i like it
I’m curious if it will fire other brands of ammo. Our league uses Headshot ammo and my Sideswipe will not chamber it. The Vision looks to be of similar design.
My Sideswipe will not chamber Little Valentine ammo for some reason.
The Vision is actually internally dissimilar to a Sideswipe, not a reshell - it's basically a Kronos on the inside, instead of "an Apollo without the gears". I point that out because it chambers rounds by the follower spring pushing them up into the breach and the front of the plunger tube shoving them forward into the fixed barrel; the Sideswipe has a moving barrel that first travels forwards, and then gets pulled backwards back over the round that the follower spring lifts up into the breach.
Good to see you back into your element my brother and yeah I do need us get my hands on these new rivals. Thanks for being my favorite nerf otaku.....and regular weeb my man ✌😊❗
Is there a path to find with rival. Does that help a little bit with the next video title
Wow dude awesome
Я один увидел pathfinder в кадре на 9 минуте?)
This vs takedown which would you prefer? Same 8 rounds capacity
This is faster to reload and top up, but the Takedown is Pump-action and feels more solid. Both are basically the same price, and this looks better with more detail than the Takedown; but I would go with the Takedown.
@@WalcomS7 i see, thanks for replying. I look forward to your pathfinder review.