It's funny that he mentions how difficult it is to break the mainstream when you have a black guy singing "white music". I can imagine how he felt when they got Patton and then boom, instant hits with The Real Thing.
@@edybocman76 I dunno about that one, Chief. Patton has always had a whiny voice, but it’s been tempered recently by age and most likely learning how to properly sing. I like Patton a lot, but his voice in those FNM albums can be tough to listen to.
@@edybocman76 - "Patton had a more easy voice" - "especially in the real thing" Bruh, most of his vocals in The Real Thing is hard to get into. I guess he kinda did that too in Mr. Bungle's debut album but at least that style of voice actually fits with that style of music and it makes it less annoying because the music is already kinda surreal.
@@thewreckofisgard6380 I think the only FNM album with Mike that is kinda tough to listen to is The Real Thing lmao. I agree his voice is annoyingly nasal back then, but in the Angel Dust era, his voice started to become stronger and more tolerable than Nasal Patton did. Also, dude has some range like I think he has six or more octaves and he can mimic animal noises. People say that he has 1,000 souls/demons on his body or that he can do 1,000 voices because of the range he has. Maybe his eerie voice that started in Angel Dust isn't for you and I kinda get that it somehow annoys you but at least it's better than the voice he has in The Real Thing.
@Hope Springs Well, now that I think of it and after really listening to The Real Thing, it's not really that bad but it's still not that great imo, though I agree with you that his vocals doesn't sound as great now. I just don't think his nasal vocals back then were his peak.
Just to clear it up Chuck was 1/4 Black 1/4 Native American and 1/2 Jewish. Theres a few tracks on the 2nd album where the lyrics seem to be about his experiences growing up. Well thats my interpretation anyway. I think the music they made together with Chuck was amazing and for me its much darker, deeper and from the heart than the albums after he left. Annes song : Oh nothing, just wondering what it is you're doing... Why it is you're doing that whatever it is you're doing Oh yeah? WHY? WHY? I dunno It just doesn't seem like something you'd be doing I mean, you of all people, ha! Know what I mean? Yeah I know it's been bugging you since the day I was born, huh? RnR: We've got the same ideas, we got the same old fears; Different colors sometimes, but hey, who cares? So he's growing up on time, I'm growing up in the middle... Oh, now I can really feel it. How could you ever stand it? Now and only now I know the difference when you tell me There is no difference.
yes it was. I just got "The Real Story" (book about FNM) and it says that their roadie attacked Jim and that he later started a new fight with the guy. Jim actually slammed the roadie's (Ghandi) head through the wall ... Jim's a badass, he's awesome! XD
the alchoholica shirt really brings back memories from the mag and rock n metal interviews, somthin ironically are more boring tin the 2000s & really arnt much fun like they were
Not all of The Real Thing was written before Patton but check out Faith No More's "New Improved Song" to hear the beginning stages of "The Morning After".
@Guitarsthatkill That's what I thought he meant by that. I couldn't remember who it was. I thought it was Chuck he punched. I'll need to reread The Real Story. Surprised they would send those two out for an interview together.
Who’s in drag at the beginning of the We Care A lot video? Is it Roddy or Chuck? Anyways Chuck had a great mind for what was going on, I’m glad he stuck by his guns even tho the Brit didn’t see it on CNN and Jim just wanted him to be quiet
yeah thats just what I was about to write on here, must've been really horrible for Chuck when Patton came along and confirmed his anxietys, most of the reall thing was allegedly written before Mike Patton joined, would it have been as big a hit if Chuck Mosely had sang on that album?
Jim is a great guitarist, but he needs a geography lesson. Britain is in Europe, same with, Ireland, Iceland, Malta, the Faroe's, etc. If the interview had to have said 'mainland Europe', he would have been fine.
hah yeah I spose, I like Chucks voice tho, pretty unique, Pattons voice was pretty annoying on the reall thing, that style was better suited to mr bungles first album because it was so cartoony
@Lisa Surlie Leave it alone eh Lisa that's just nasty, Chuck was excellent on Introduce Yourself and that shouldn't be forgotten. Besides it's the democrats who keep indirectly flooding communities with fkn heroin in the first place but i don't see them being blamed.
@@wotdoesthisbuttondo I think Lisa is actually a conservative man struggling with his gender identity, choosing to angrily troll people online instead of angrily deepthroating dicks, the latter being their secret desire. And I'm not even a Chuck fan.
@Antoine Gingras-Saint Louis lol? What does that mean? In what way? He sounds a bit loose if u get my drift... But I think a lot of people do these days sortof... Ltfol
"Uh we haven't been to... European.." HA! :) Funny when people are nervous what they say. He's trying to play it cool, but he's clearly nervous in the setting.
England and Britain are the same think. UK/Great Britain = Not same thing. Thats as far as I know, I'm half brittish ;). If i'm wrong, thanks for the info
I think the soul was roddy and billy. They were the primary song writers. Jim never seemed all that invested in the band. He wanted to be in a traditional metal band, not doing all this rap rock shit. Same guy that called angel dust “fag rock” after he left. Clearly he wasnt into the music. To my knowledge his favorite song of theirs was surprise youre dead, probably their most metal sounding song but they didnt have many songs like that so i dont think he ever really loved the band.
@@trenken No Jim was always puzzled by Pattons lyrics which were always needlessly provoctive inc with the gay stuff which just sullied the excellent music jim produced and put brilliant solos into which would've otherwise been tedious boring politically correct posey rubbish. I wish there was an instrumental version of Angel Dust with Patton cut out, i'd buy that.
@@wotdoesthisbuttondo patton is divisive. Some people like his wacky style where he changes his voice 18 times in every song and other people think he just sounds stupid. What i know of jims feelings on angel dust is he had almost nothing to do with that album. He showed up for a few hours to record parts he was given and then split. That little kinda techno breakdown part later in midlife crisis is shit he absolutely hated. You can tell from his style he is a straight up old school metal guitarist. He love bands like metallica who hes talked about many times. He didnt want a guy rapping sometimes, no techno stuff. So he lost interest and left. Or he was fired bc he had no interest in being involved in writing angel dust.
@@trenken The songwriting process didn't give Jim much opportunity to contribute, he was bitchily kicked out after they snatched his ace riffs whilst snobbily denigrating him as "just a guitarist" after he put his soul into that band, he was the face of FNM hence being the one invited to be in the Bill and Ted sequel which likely stirred jealousy especially in Patton who got increasingly cliquey and nasty towards Jim onstage who just wanted to play great music and entertain us with his eloquent reliability.
@@wotdoesthisbuttondo im honestly not a huge fan of angel dust. A lot of the songs dont do anything for me. The real thing is what i loved about them so i wanted more of that. The songs feel much more refined. So for me i get why jim wasnt intetested. Hard to be a happy go lucky team player when you think the direction of the music sucks. Now jim is totally private and is a champion pumpkin grower. Didnt even know that was a thing but thats his life now. Not involved in music at all as far as i know.
I don't think you understood my comment. I agree that those first two records don't carry the commercial strength that The Real Thing does but as Chuck mentions in this interview, HE feels slighted by the music industry because of his color. So what I meant is that I wonder if he felt that something like the song, "We Care A Lot" deserved more MTV/radio attention than it got at the time. I personally don't feel that his race was a factor in that. But in this interview, he does.
why not create something yourself rather than just lazily try to pull down someone elses creation? no courage? afraid yours wont cut it? on the contrary, i was on fire that day 2 years ago.
That's a bullshit argument: imagine Patton in this interview in Mosley's place. Can you seee him getting ambushed with exchanges like, MOSLEY: " ... one of the best performers, since... ah... hmm... I don't know..." INTERVIEWER: "since the last guy who dressed up flamboyantly, I guess." MOSLEY: "Yeah." Patton would have torn the guy a new one before allowing himself to be made to look such an inarticulate fool.
as much as I love Chuck, it's not a good idea to do an interview on national tv IN DRAG, complaining about the US government & the theme of racism, when you're strung out on heroin.
I listened to faith no more for about 5 years before i realised chuck was, umm, black? is that the issue here? i'm not really too sure. seriously do not know why race card is being brought up? the fact is Patton is a legend whilst mosely is like a pillow, ie, help you go to sleep. for me, mosely is just piece of shit everyday boring singer, whilst patton activates me. Patton to me is like spinach to popeye, while mosely, just another plate of peas.
RIP Chuck
It's funny that he mentions how difficult it is to break the mainstream when you have a black guy singing "white music". I can imagine how he felt when they got Patton and then boom, instant hits with The Real Thing.
Mm patton had more a easy voice to get into it especially in the real thing
@@edybocman76 I dunno about that one, Chief. Patton has always had a whiny voice, but it’s been tempered recently by age and most likely learning how to properly sing. I like Patton a lot, but his voice in those FNM albums can be tough to listen to.
@@edybocman76
- "Patton had a more easy voice"
- "especially in the real thing"
Bruh, most of his vocals in The Real Thing is hard to get into. I guess he kinda did that too in Mr. Bungle's debut album but at least that style of voice actually fits with that style of music and it makes it less annoying because the music is already kinda surreal.
@@thewreckofisgard6380 I think the only FNM album with Mike that is kinda tough to listen to is The Real Thing lmao. I agree his voice is annoyingly nasal back then, but in the Angel Dust era, his voice started to become stronger and more tolerable than Nasal Patton did. Also, dude has some range like I think he has six or more octaves and he can mimic animal noises. People say that he has 1,000 souls/demons on his body or that he can do 1,000 voices because of the range he has. Maybe his eerie voice that started in Angel Dust isn't for you and I kinda get that it somehow annoys you but at least it's better than the voice he has in The Real Thing.
@Hope Springs Well, now that I think of it and after really listening to The Real Thing, it's not really that bad but it's still not that great imo, though I agree with you that his vocals doesn't sound as great now. I just don't think his nasal vocals back then were his peak.
It's pretty funny how this is an FNM interview and either Jim or Chuck would be in the band by 1994 ...
Just to clear it up Chuck was 1/4 Black 1/4 Native American and 1/2 Jewish. Theres a few tracks on the 2nd album where the lyrics seem to be about his experiences growing up. Well thats my interpretation anyway. I think the music they made together with Chuck was amazing and for me its much darker, deeper and from the heart than the albums after he left.
Annes song :
Oh nothing, just wondering what it is you're doing...
Why it is you're doing that whatever it is you're doing
Oh yeah?
WHY? WHY?
I dunno
It just doesn't seem like something you'd be doing
I mean, you of all people, ha!
Know what I mean?
Yeah I know it's been bugging you since the day I was born, huh?
RnR:
We've got the same ideas, we got the same old fears;
Different colors sometimes, but hey, who cares?
So he's growing up on time, I'm growing up in the middle...
Oh, now I can really feel it. How could you ever stand it?
Now and only now I know the difference when you tell me
There is no difference.
Jewish is a religion, not an ethnicity.
@@anacoreta9381 Hmm not sure, they were ethically cleansed in WW2. Anyway what I was trying to say is he has a mix of cultural influences.
Nailed it man
WE FUCKING LOVE YOU UNCLE CHUCKLES
Chuck was hilarious. Love the Liberace wig.
I like how Chuck asks Jim what happened to his hand. This was right around the time he whacked Chuck on the head with a bottle I believe.
MoratheImpaler nope, punched his roadie
No, Jim Martin knocked out Chuck's Friend who was a Roadie for the band during introduce yourself.
Good thing this video is in HI-FI.
@mrjcoolness I have the "Milk & Blood" CD. Got it off an auction site. It's awesome!
comedy gold
It's people like us that just let it happen
yes it was. I just got "The Real Story" (book about FNM) and it says that their roadie attacked Jim and that he later started a new fight with the guy. Jim actually slammed the roadie's (Ghandi) head through the wall ... Jim's a badass, he's awesome! XD
Ooh, makes much more sense! Very true aswell, although there are alot of other countries in Europe that are very different to others ;)
"We haven't been in Europe yet"
"What about england?"
LOL'D
Nah this is Britain, easy to confuse us with it as right next to it of course.
great... !
jim has an alcoholica t-shirt on :)
yes. yes, he does.
It's funny how I personnaly think that Jim's voice doesn't fit with his physique!
Same
Looks like a serial killer. I was a fan of FNM from the time I was 5, and used to watch Brixton over and over. He scared the shit out of me
Hahaha, Chuck keeps inspecting and asking about Jim and his injuries?! Jim really and i mean really reminds me of Kerry Kings, mannerism and all.
the alchoholica shirt really brings back memories from the mag and rock n metal interviews, somthin ironically are more boring tin the 2000s & really arnt much fun like they were
wow that was clever. great. thanks so much.
Not all of The Real Thing was written before Patton but check out Faith No More's "New Improved Song" to hear the beginning stages of "The Morning After".
David Barajas yep
Looks like neither one of these guys will be part of the FNM's reunion.
Jim doesn't know Britain is in Europe.
Now we know where FNM had the idea of performing in suites from.
@Guitarsthatkill That's what I thought he meant by that. I couldn't remember who it was. I thought it was Chuck he punched. I'll need to reread The Real Story. Surprised they would send those two out for an interview together.
Who’s in drag at the beginning of the We Care A lot video? Is it Roddy or Chuck? Anyways Chuck had a great mind for what was going on, I’m glad he stuck by his guns even tho the Brit didn’t see it on CNN and Jim just wanted him to be quiet
Its their old manager
Chucks sounds so drunk lol
yeah thats just what I was about to write on here, must've been really horrible for Chuck when Patton came along and confirmed his anxietys, most of the reall thing was allegedly written before Mike Patton joined, would it have been as big a hit if Chuck Mosely had sang on that album?
No. Patton wrote the lyrics and vocal melodies. Chuck would have fucked that up.
Jim is a great guitarist, but he needs a geography lesson. Britain is in Europe, same with, Ireland, Iceland, Malta, the Faroe's, etc. If the interview had to have said 'mainland Europe', he would have been fine.
I think Jim and Chuck was fighting before this interview... Chuck keep asking him what happen to his hand in a sort of mocking way.
I didn't know Harpo sang in Faith No More.
I think he meant mainland Europe.
That's exactly what he ment
does anyone know the name of the show this interview is from?
alguien puede darme el resumen de esta entrevista?? no entendi muy bien lo ke dijeron : (__
@JosephKuby They may have played a small role but it was mainly because the band just got sick of JIm and needed a change.
hah yeah I spose, I like Chucks voice tho, pretty unique, Pattons voice was pretty annoying on the reall thing, that style was better suited to mr bungles first album because it was so cartoony
they both got fired, not at the same time.
I think Jim quit
@@cajonesAFK they fired him by fax.
Chuck is no idiot. He sounds a bit out of it though. (jet lag?)
I must listen to more of his Faith No More.
@Lisa Surlie Leave it alone eh Lisa that's just nasty, Chuck was excellent on Introduce Yourself and that shouldn't be forgotten.
Besides it's the democrats who keep indirectly flooding communities with fkn heroin in the first place but i don't see them being blamed.
@Lisa Surlie Are you really an angry Mike Patton sick of being told We Care a Lot is the definitive FNM song?
@@wotdoesthisbuttondo I think Lisa is actually a conservative man struggling with his gender identity, choosing to angrily troll people online instead of angrily deepthroating dicks, the latter being their secret desire. And I'm not even a Chuck fan.
Chuck appears a tad on the stoned side!
@Antoine Gingras-Saint Louis lol? What does that mean? In what way? He sounds a bit loose if u get my drift... But I think a lot of people do these days sortof... Ltfol
"Uh we haven't been to... European.." HA! :) Funny when people are nervous what they say. He's trying to play it cool, but he's clearly nervous in the setting.
England and Britain are the same think.
UK/Great Britain = Not same thing.
Thats as far as I know, I'm half brittish ;). If i'm wrong, thanks for the info
The other guys really treated Jim like sh*t but he was the soul of the band.
I think the soul was roddy and billy. They were the primary song writers. Jim never seemed all that invested in the band. He wanted to be in a traditional metal band, not doing all this rap rock shit. Same guy that called angel dust “fag rock” after he left. Clearly he wasnt into the music. To my knowledge his favorite song of theirs was surprise youre dead, probably their most metal sounding song but they didnt have many songs like that so i dont think he ever really loved the band.
@@trenken No Jim was always puzzled by Pattons lyrics which were always needlessly provoctive inc with the gay stuff which just sullied the excellent music jim produced and put brilliant solos into which would've otherwise been tedious boring politically correct posey rubbish.
I wish there was an instrumental version of Angel Dust with Patton cut out, i'd buy that.
@@wotdoesthisbuttondo patton is divisive. Some people like his wacky style where he changes his voice 18 times in every song and other people think he just sounds stupid. What i know of jims feelings on angel dust is he had almost nothing to do with that album. He showed up for a few hours to record parts he was given and then split. That little kinda techno breakdown part later in midlife crisis is shit he absolutely hated. You can tell from his style he is a straight up old school metal guitarist. He love bands like metallica who hes talked about many times. He didnt want a guy rapping sometimes, no techno stuff. So he lost interest and left. Or he was fired bc he had no interest in being involved in writing angel dust.
@@trenken The songwriting process didn't give Jim much opportunity to contribute, he was bitchily kicked out after they snatched his ace riffs whilst snobbily denigrating him as "just a guitarist" after he put his soul into that band, he was the face of FNM hence being the one invited to be in the Bill and Ted sequel which likely stirred jealousy especially in Patton who got increasingly cliquey and nasty towards Jim onstage who just wanted to play great music and entertain us with his eloquent reliability.
@@wotdoesthisbuttondo im honestly not a huge fan of angel dust. A lot of the songs dont do anything for me. The real thing is what i loved about them so i wanted more of that. The songs feel much more refined. So for me i get why jim wasnt intetested. Hard to be a happy go lucky team player when you think the direction of the music sucks. Now jim is totally private and is a champion pumpkin grower. Didnt even know that was a thing but thats his life now. Not involved in music at all as far as i know.
ahahahahah
a tad ?
Chuck's ideas about racism were rather circumspect ...whilst Jim tries to avoid the subject OUCH !
I don't think you understood my comment. I agree that those first two records don't carry the commercial strength that The Real Thing does but as Chuck mentions in this interview, HE feels slighted by the music industry because of his color. So what I meant is that I wonder if he felt that something like the song, "We Care A Lot" deserved more MTV/radio attention than it got at the time. I personally don't feel that his race was a factor in that. But in this interview, he does.
why not create something yourself rather than just lazily try to pull down someone elses creation? no courage? afraid yours wont cut it? on the contrary, i was on fire that day 2 years ago.
what about BRITAIN, actually it's quiet different... (not geographically speaking)
you must be joking...
Chuck keeps saying "what happened to your hand Jim"? because Jim punched Chuck in a fight.
MikeyLikesIt punched chucks friend/roadie
I miss Jim. He had a strong character (visually) completed the other character visually. Patton absolutely better than chuck.
Jim will always be my favorite faith no more axeman
@Lisa Surlie really. RIP Chuck, thanks for being around and providing alternatives to bands like whitesnake
black?
That's a bullshit argument: imagine Patton in this interview in Mosley's place. Can you seee him getting ambushed with exchanges like,
MOSLEY: " ... one of the best performers, since... ah... hmm... I don't know..."
INTERVIEWER: "since the last guy who dressed up flamboyantly, I guess."
MOSLEY: "Yeah."
Patton would have torn the guy a new one before allowing himself to be made to look such an inarticulate fool.
Too much acid and weed
Wait, so Jim is black? Since when?
as much as I love Chuck, it's not a good idea to do an interview on national tv IN DRAG, complaining about the US government & the theme of racism, when you're strung out on heroin.
Coldacre - it's a free country
noooooooooob
Chuck calling himself black is a bit of a stretch, I think he's a quarter or eighth black and doesn't look it
Sorry I didn't really agree with Chucks conspiracy theories.
I listened to faith no more for about 5 years before i realised chuck was, umm, black? is that the issue here? i'm not really too sure. seriously do not know why race card is being brought up?
the fact is Patton is a legend whilst mosely is like a pillow, ie, help you go to sleep.
for me, mosely is just piece of shit everyday boring singer, whilst patton activates me. Patton to me is like spinach to popeye, while mosely, just another plate of peas.
Patton is a legend...to jazz & funk dilettantes; Chuck's ideas about racism were rather circumspect & Jim tries to avoid the subject OUCH !
Wait, so Jim is black? Since when?
I mean he is not white to