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  • @generationscomputersystems
    @generationscomputersystems 3 місяці тому +12

    To be honest, an AMD A-series APU’s was to compete with Intel’s Celeron and Atom series processors. They were ‘budget’ systems with integrated Radeon IGPU (Integrated Graphics Processing Unit) as an edge over the then Celeron’s as Intel didn’t really go into the integrated GPU’s at the time. When Intel did start having IGPU’s, they used their own hardware. But most of the time, apart from office and low-budget systems, systems always built with a GPU add-on, bypassing the IGPU’s anyway.
    The system you got is still usable for general use, very low-end gaming and/or retro-gaming machines.

  • @zingwilder9989
    @zingwilder9989 3 місяці тому +22

    Chalk it up as a learning experience. At least now you realize that the old AMD chip doesn't hold a candle to the Intel 3rd Generation CPU's.

  • @mikenelson6630
    @mikenelson6630 3 місяці тому +3

    I could be wrong, but I suspect that your 'Frankenstein' graphics card had an issue was because I noticed that you moved your HDMI cable AFTER you had powered the system on. In my experience, I have always had trouble with HDMI cables if I move them after the PC is powered on. It generally needs to be plugged in BEFORE the power is turned on to work properly.

  • @danthompsett2894
    @danthompsett2894 3 місяці тому +5

    i wouldnt discount actual proper AMD chips A6, A8 and A10 where budget cpu's with intergrated graphics, not intended for hardcore gamers. AMD Phenom II 940 BE, AMD Phenom II 1090T, AMD FX8350 and AMD FX9590 where all good solid CPU's.

    • @jaredcapps7788
      @jaredcapps7788 Місяць тому

      Took the words right out of my mouth. I had the FX-8350 and it kinda bottlenecked my 2060 super. Before that it would run the hell out of my 760. I'm thinking if I were to pick a sweet spot for the gpu to best pair with the Fx-8350 would be a 1070.

  • @DuneRunnerEnterprises
    @DuneRunnerEnterprises 3 місяці тому +15

    Not just "you might wanna..",but "you GOT to get the friggin' bios updated"!!!

  • @johnhudson7055
    @johnhudson7055 3 місяці тому +13

    I still have a couple A series APUs and honestly they weren't that bad.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 3 місяці тому +1

      I have a couple of them also and they're fine for what they can do. I don't play AAA games after 2010 anyway because I refuse to subscribe to the "games as a service" concept and I am not into online multiplayer gaming - I'd rather get my real friends over for beer, pizza or BBQ and a LAN party two or three times a year.
      I also just run Linux (no Windows since Windows 7) so I can play all of the games I want to through WINE on older hardware.

    • @nickfury1279
      @nickfury1279 3 місяці тому

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 you should give Proton a try, you might have a better experience than with WINE. Valve is helping develop it for Steam OS but it can be used on pretty much any modern Linux distro

  • @sirtanon1
    @sirtanon1 3 місяці тому +9

    An A10-9700 won't fit in that board. The A10-9700 is a socket AM4 CPU and that board is socket FM2+. The A10-7800 is one of the fastest CPUs for that socket. You could try to find an AMD pro A10-8850B, but that is only about another 10-15% faster.

    • @ericbauer4559
      @ericbauer4559 3 місяці тому

      I think he said it had a 7800 in it. He did mention that AMD went up to an A10-9700 back in that day.

  • @michaellegg9381
    @michaellegg9381 3 місяці тому +2

    There is something wrong!! Driver issues maybe or bios not set up correctly maybe!! The bulldozer CPU is at 98% in cyberpunk and fortnight and its definitely able to load up the GPU to 95% or more so it capable of pushing the GPU to the 98 to 100% but it keeps dropping from 98% utilisation to 0% and jumps up and down and up and down.. normally it won't load the GPU to a higher value and stick solid at 20 or 30% GPU while the CPU is pegged to 100% but thats not what's happening its keeping a consistent CPU load of 98% and the GPU is dancing around from 0% (which regardless of the CPU should not even get to 0%) but it loads the GPU to 98% so its likely a driver or something else. Because if the cpu could not load the GPU that high it would still have a stable low figure even if it was only like 2% it should not be jumping around..

  • @joelcarson9514
    @joelcarson9514 3 місяці тому +4

    12 GB of RAM? A 4 GB and an 8GB DIMM, NOT running in dual channel mode there. Two of the same capacity and speed would help some though, dual channel mode is better any day of the week.

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices Місяць тому

      You can run dual channel with different capacity chips.

    • @joelcarson9514
      @joelcarson9514 Місяць тому

      @@EvilTurkeySlices They both must be of matching capacities, IE the same memory size to get full bandwidth performance. Apparently different capacity DIMMs will put you in what Intel calls FLEX mode if the system board, CPU and BIOS supports it. More RAM is better than less, that's good with Windows 10. It's just nice to get any extra performance you can.

  • @iscariotproject
    @iscariotproject 3 місяці тому +4

    if you are gamer yeah maybe not exciting but if you are into linux and opensource that is a beast in hardware

  • @nickvirgili2969
    @nickvirgili2969 3 місяці тому +3

    That 580 is making me cry a little. I have my old rx 580 gts and its so pretty im almost feeling obligated to send it to ya out of pity, but i love a good resourceful move so touche!

    • @DLMtechgarage
      @DLMtechgarage  3 місяці тому +3

      no junk left behind is my theory lol

  • @catherinemorgan2741
    @catherinemorgan2741 3 місяці тому +4

    Found my old FX 8350 was not bad and in bios I turned on all the cores

    • @edgkenny
      @edgkenny 3 місяці тому +1

      Turned on what cores in BIOS? I have one in use and it comes with all cores enabled.

  • @lawrenwimberly7311
    @lawrenwimberly7311 3 місяці тому +5

    pick up an FX8310.. similar performance as I7 3770

  • @johnt.848
    @johnt.848 3 місяці тому +3

    That socket definitely isn't worth keeping as a gaming system, still ok as a basic home computer for UA-cam and emails etc.

  • @FunctionalFelix
    @FunctionalFelix 3 місяці тому +4

    wowzer ive been waiting for this video, good content keep it up!

  • @matthewday7565
    @matthewday7565 3 місяці тому +1

    Might scrape a bit more performance with balanced RAM, not sure if it can flex like Intel or if it's forced to 100% single channel.
    Not that much more CPU to put on a FM2+ They didn't make 8 "core" for that platform

  • @cliffordreynolds1835
    @cliffordreynolds1835 3 місяці тому +1

    You're poor like me, I like that. Not like Linus tech tips who would throw in an I9 14th gen, and a 4090 they both got for free! Lol

  • @kirasaiki
    @kirasaiki 3 місяці тому +1

    im watching this video in my pc with a10-7890k cpu....XD

  • @biomechanique6874
    @biomechanique6874 3 місяці тому +1

    Yeah but no, A series AMD was for low end office and school supply. Ebay has a ton of them that nobody wants.

  • @iamperplexed4695
    @iamperplexed4695 3 місяці тому +1

    Wresting names? Those are names of construction equipment. Wtf?

  • @Dennn90
    @Dennn90 3 місяці тому +2

    This motherboard cannot be used with FX cpu or any AM3+ ones, it has FM2+ socket, even best quad core cpu (most cores that ever came out for the platform) for FM2+ is as slow as i3 3220 if not worse. So I think GTX560 ti will be a great match for it to play GTA5 or Valorant, dota 2 and other kind of online shovelware.

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices Місяць тому

      Honestly a GTX 970 would be a good fit. Nvidia drivers have lower CPU overhead.

  • @eightiesinsane
    @eightiesinsane 3 місяці тому +1

    this is a budget socket called fm2, you can not compare this to am3+ sockets, those chips were pretty awesome, a10-7800 would be sufficient for a home theater pc setup then

  • @danc843
    @danc843 3 місяці тому +1

    try an old usb fllash drive plug it in and set it to ready boost smoothed out the gaming performance for me on my old amd

  • @edgkenny
    @edgkenny 3 місяці тому +1

    Bulldozer Family (AM3+ socket):
    Bulldozer Core (Zambezi) (FX-41xx, FX61xx, FX62xx, FX81xx)
    Piledriver Core (Vishera) (FX-43xx, FX63xx, FX83xx, FX93xx, FX95xx)
    I never had one of those AMD A series APUs which were on the FM2 and FM2+ sockets. I have a couple other CPUs which don't have integrated graphics.
    Computer #1
    CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 960T BE (socket AM3)
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 560 (1GB)
    Computer #2
    CPU: AMD FX-8350 (socket AM3+)
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060 (6GB)
    You might try the AMD FX-8350 which should work better than the AMD A10-7800 with games.

    • @Sadler2010
      @Sadler2010 3 місяці тому

      I had the Phenom II X4 960T unlocked to 6 cores on a basic MSI 870 chipset board until I got my 990FX Gaming board and an FX8350!!!

  • @laowai2000
    @laowai2000 3 місяці тому +2

    When the time comes all electronic products will have their time to be sent to ewaste. Moving at the moment and sent the wifes old HP mini to the trash after it's been sitting around unused for a decade. Amazingly it still started up like it was new!

  • @blooder81
    @blooder81 3 місяці тому +2

    the a10 9700 its only for am4/ddr4!

    • @seanwood5443
      @seanwood5443 3 місяці тому

      yea i bought one of the 9700s just so i could uodate my b350m gaming pro bios

  • @TheNoodlePan
    @TheNoodlePan 2 місяці тому +1

    what happened to this poor computer? someone took some inspiration from the film Office Space and tech guy missed them taking a bat to it in your front yard? "ah, the computer garage neighbor can have a go then!"

  • @Mirra2003-f9s
    @Mirra2003-f9s 3 місяці тому +4

    These used to be really cheap when they were new,and the Bulldozer was AM3+ AMD FX which was better than these. If i remember right these old AMD APUs are outperformed by the Core 2 Quad processors which were already old when these APUs came out. These were just generic cheap home/office PCs that would get obsolete in 2 years lol

    • @zingwilder9989
      @zingwilder9989 3 місяці тому +1

      True. This Lenovo that was thrown on the lawn was a cheap off-the-shelf PC made for general use. Nonetheless, it served its function and was always less expensive than an Intel machine.

    • @Mirra2003-f9s
      @Mirra2003-f9s 3 місяці тому +1

      @@zingwilder9989 Could have been worse. I had my hands on a Lenovo that had a low powered Celeron dual core soldered on the motherboard. Built in 2016 and it was outperformed by my old Pentium Dual Core E5700 lol

    • @zingwilder9989
      @zingwilder9989 3 місяці тому

      @@Mirra2003-f9s Oh yeah, some real junk has been placed on a shelf. Even today, there are many, many people that have no idea what they are buying. I'm glad that I learned how to build back in 2007.

  • @ToddTinkersWithTech
    @ToddTinkersWithTech 3 місяці тому

    I use an A10 in an ITX Kodi HTPC, just because I had it around. Paired with a GT 1030, it does the job, but definitely not great... And I have 3 of the Logitech K400 keyboard/trackpad. Thanks for the video!

  • @retropcscotland4645
    @retropcscotland4645 3 місяці тому

    Replace the A_series cpu with something else. You don't get the full 16x lanes on the pcie bus with APU cpu's. Maybe a Quad Athlon or something with no integrated graphics.

  • @EastAngliaUK
    @EastAngliaUK 3 місяці тому

    My amd ryzen 9 7940hs & 4070 laptop is the first powerful AMD I have ever used also often stick with intel

  • @foamyflightmaster9385
    @foamyflightmaster9385 3 місяці тому

    This AMD CPU series were real dogs, I skipped them completely, recommend avoid for anything gaming related

  • @InternationalLiaison
    @InternationalLiaison 3 місяці тому

    Ironically AMD , A6, A8, and A10 are all based on the XBOX360 architecture. Originally the first set of xbox 360's that got the red ring of death had an IBM power PC 3 core 3 thread power PC CPU. The cpu's were causing the red ring of death as it would warp the boards and the solder balls would crack and disconnect.... So in 2008 to 2010 AMD under a NDA hush agreement with microsoft redesigned the CPU and GPU all in one for the APU found in the corona mother boards at 40nm, versus teh older CPU and GPU 90nm chipsets. The reason why AMD makes the best APU's (CPU/GPU) all in one is because of that relationship with microsoft and the 360. The final versions of the xbox 360 were the most efficient, long lasting and best version of the xbox 360. If you put these AMD chipsets to operate under linux/FAT32 it will free up about 25% of the CPU computation, but its operating as expected in windows.

  • @ZGDX_Smiling_
    @ZGDX_Smiling_ 3 місяці тому +1

    *1:06** K-SWAP Case*

  • @Sadler2010
    @Sadler2010 3 місяці тому

    The A series was never meant to be a bruiser of a cpu, they were for basic home and office pc's. They could just get someone to be able to play some games until they dropped in a dedicated GPU. try an FX CPU from back then with a good GPU and then you'll see. I ran an FX-8350 on AM3+ until last year and I now have a 5900X.

  • @travis4798
    @travis4798 3 місяці тому

    I pulled the board out of an HP Pavilion 500-590 to temporarily replace my motherboard that bit the dust. The bios update allowed higher end cpu's up to a 4790T (motherboard's limitations is 85 watts) to be used and the ability to turn off the annoying fan error it gives if a fan is unplugged. Totally worth the update. Went from 8.1 to Windows 10 and it did something weird to the bios, now the fan error is back without the ability to disable it, with or without the drive even being plugged in. Pretty weird issue.
    As for your graphics card problem, I believe it has to do with the card's device ID and updating the bios allows it to "see" it.

  • @JuanGonzalez-hv6vs
    @JuanGonzalez-hv6vs 3 місяці тому

    Lenovo mob needs to get along with Frankenstein GPU! Ok, the BIOS update got along with your Frankenstein GPU.

  • @lesseroun0
    @lesseroun0 3 місяці тому

    Most important upgrade you want to do to this setup is to make sure that it's memory are workin in dual channel. And i'm sure 8GB cannot be bind with 4GB as DUAL. And remember IPA is your friend. Cheers.

  • @schmutz1g
    @schmutz1g 3 місяці тому

    the best of the series was the A12-9800 , it was an OK cpu.. 4 core 4 threads 3.8 base 4.2 boost. Still adequate as a multimedia machine or web browser, not too great for games.

  • @patg108
    @patg108 3 місяці тому

    though A10 was only laptops for awhile. I have on in a laptop but not a desktop. And should of shown us a video on fixing the case up. There might be a hidden bios for that motherboard too.
    Could always use it for a low power server.
    And i would HATE that keyboard. I don't like the more modern low travel keyboards much less on wireless

  • @fradd182
    @fradd182 3 місяці тому

    I think the main issue with those APUs was that they were not true 4-cores. I believe they have 2 clusters of 2 integer cores and just one FPU and L3 cache. So, some resources are shared.

  • @baoquoc3710
    @baoquoc3710 3 місяці тому

    if the mobo is an AM4, you could have a wayyy better chance - but sadly amd of the era sucked, and am4 socket prebuilts had the socket locked with certain cpu generation which is hard to justify

  • @AndrewWormald-b3m
    @AndrewWormald-b3m 3 місяці тому

    Did you disable the Start Up/Background Apps, also with using a SSD there are other things that need to be done in Advanced Settings that would help with the CPU

  • @carolimhoff2231
    @carolimhoff2231 3 місяці тому

    My goto GPU is a Nvidia 740 that came in a HP prebuild from 2015

  • @edwarddesposito4476
    @edwarddesposito4476 3 місяці тому

    A garbage tier AMD CPU. I still have a Ryzen 1700 in a PC. That is a very workable PC 7 years later.

  • @jandkwhite6459
    @jandkwhite6459 3 місяці тому

    I mentioned in the last video I have at least 7 tubes of not garbage thermal paste for you if you want it...just let me know and I will send it!! I'm not some kind of weird scammer lol

  • @douglasbennett1768
    @douglasbennett1768 3 місяці тому +1

    That's looks like a power button I got for one of my customers. It was so light and the cable was so stiff that it wouldn't sit flat on her desk. I hit Home Depot for a handful of large washers, maybe 1 1/2" wide. I wrapped them in electrical tape and then super glued them inside the case. It was enough weight to make it sit flat and stable on the desk.

  • @JuanGonzalez-hv6vs
    @JuanGonzalez-hv6vs 3 місяці тому

    Potatoe PC can play some low to medium games. Why not? Introductory level to PC gaming.

  • @MouseHunteR77n
    @MouseHunteR77n 3 місяці тому +2

    Good for the kid's to learn on with few game's with strip down Windows would be killer

    • @fiskrond9212
      @fiskrond9212 3 місяці тому

      stick Linux on it... u be surprised what Linux can do with 'old' kit

  • @Daydricoldsmith
    @Daydricoldsmith 3 місяці тому

    Interesting how it runs cyberpunk alright but cant handle fortnite.

  • @jparker4293
    @jparker4293 3 місяці тому

    I have the keyboard used it for the Livingroom tv computer.

  • @Allen811973
    @Allen811973 3 місяці тому

    Well its a good for internet browsing with a budget video card for 5 k youtube videos but gaing it look like it was bad

  • @catherinemorgan2741
    @catherinemorgan2741 3 місяці тому

    Hell yea RGB makes anything faster ROFL

  • @Manny422kmbrt
    @Manny422kmbrt 3 місяці тому

    They were terrible chips but they could overclock pretty good see how far u can push that one

  • @Woodwerker
    @Woodwerker 3 місяці тому

    The only thing that could possibly be a good use for this setup is emulation.

  • @ferjarvis2841
    @ferjarvis2841 3 місяці тому

    What's the power connector called you use to power it on?

  • @proximitea
    @proximitea 3 місяці тому

    i use that logitech keyboard but its a ten year old version from my dad that is missing all the feet lol

  • @russellmccoy1587
    @russellmccoy1587 3 місяці тому

    i had a x6 phenom amd was not bad but always was slow but they were cheep

  • @EvilTurkeySlices
    @EvilTurkeySlices Місяць тому

    Some OEM boars from 2013-2016 don't like AMD GPUs and won't post with them installed.

    • @jaredcapps7788
      @jaredcapps7788 Місяць тому

      Some Chinese boards only work with Nvidia because of the pcie being "wired" differently

  • @DuneRunnerEnterprises
    @DuneRunnerEnterprises 3 місяці тому

    You got to get Athlon 860k,not the "A" series cpu.

  • @richardmarkert7736
    @richardmarkert7736 3 місяці тому

    Brown connector? Homie, that's orange.

  • @roasthunter
    @roasthunter 3 місяці тому

    Old AMD pre-RYZEN cpus are trash, Intel was totally bossing it from the core I series from gen 2

    • @Sadler2010
      @Sadler2010 3 місяці тому

      The Phenom and FX chips on AM2-AM3/+ were far superior to the A series basic CPUs.

  • @radradR0bot
    @radradR0bot 3 місяці тому

    Install batocera and run it in the integrated graphics

  • @manw3bttcks
    @manw3bttcks 3 місяці тому

    Just take it down to Best Buy recycling

  • @Geekzmo
    @Geekzmo 3 місяці тому

    Is still good for a HOME File Server PC!

  • @dwcinnc
    @dwcinnc 3 місяці тому

    I love that keyboard, I got one a few weeks ago.

  • @kidpiper9642
    @kidpiper9642 3 місяці тому

    That's why you threw it in your yard, isn't it?

  • @rmcdudmk212
    @rmcdudmk212 3 місяці тому +2

    Its ALIVE! 🎉

  • @maladamedialabs4214
    @maladamedialabs4214 3 місяці тому

    Free computers are fun! It may not be a gaming system but I'll bet some poor soul would love it for web browsing and such.

  • @MojoWrangler
    @MojoWrangler 3 місяці тому

    I had gotten ahold of a 970 blower style card and the fan was noisy as could be. Found a replacement that was also bad bearing. I ended up taking off the shroud and mounting a fan from some old AMD platform directly to the cooler. I found the wiring diagram and was able to get the new fan up and running off the GPU temp sensors. I took a bit of cable sleeve off an old LED lighting kit and alongside some zip ties made a pretty decent looking card in spite of the jankiness. The real plus was that it cooled and performed better than it ever had.

  • @DarkWEB76
    @DarkWEB76 3 місяці тому

    Same Keyboard here. its the best

  • @PapaMav
    @PapaMav 3 місяці тому

    Are you really surprised bro?

  • @j.lietka9406
    @j.lietka9406 3 місяці тому

    Is the A10 a quad core?

  • @TheDextermat
    @TheDextermat 3 місяці тому

    Proprietary tech is programmed obsolescence. This has cost more for them to engineer since the standard already exist. Good thing guys like you can make it work!

  • @StuffJason437
    @StuffJason437 3 місяці тому

    Thrown for a reason.

  • @j.p.h.8126
    @j.p.h.8126 3 місяці тому

    I do use that very same logitech keyboard on my HTPC. 🙂

  • @Woodwerker
    @Woodwerker 3 місяці тому

    You said it runs like garbage - and that is where you found it - very fitting - you found this as garbage on your lawn.

  • @Mack-op1vw
    @Mack-op1vw 3 місяці тому

    Would have been nice to see on more mem, although I remember hearing how bad amd were back in the day!

  • @Alpha-ms9nj
    @Alpha-ms9nj 3 місяці тому

    I'm curious as to how you rigged Franken GPU with those fans lol. Before I knew better, I scored an HP Pavillion with an A12-9800 CPU for cheap to do a quick flip and it overheats like crazy and BSOD's within 2 minutes smh. I have another one with the A10-9700 CPU that runs great but I can't move it and appears I am stuck with both of those AMD units smh.

  • @mussman99
    @mussman99 3 місяці тому

    This channel is the reason why I use that keyboard

  • @catherinemorgan2741
    @catherinemorgan2741 3 місяці тому

    SATA cords with the metal clips

  • @thompi8
    @thompi8 3 місяці тому

    consoll pc :D in a matx chassi :D

  • @Kelekona_808
    @Kelekona_808 3 місяці тому +1

    I think Buldozer was the generation that was caught misrepresenting the thread count of the chips. Not a great generation, bu they turned it around shortly after with the start of Ryzen.

  • @catherinemorgan2741
    @catherinemorgan2741 3 місяці тому

    Good day sir

  • @Dutch-linux
    @Dutch-linux 3 місяці тому

    AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D processor is more powerful then any intel shit cpu's

  • @Dutch-linux
    @Dutch-linux 3 місяці тому

    and you need to connect the 4 pin cpu power you are starving the cpu from power.... you got to learn about pc's and boards dude

  • @oturanboga6225
    @oturanboga6225 3 місяці тому

  • @JimKJ3N
    @JimKJ3N 3 місяці тому

    IMO, anything that runs on DDR3 is e-waste. That includes Intel, not just AMD.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 3 місяці тому

      Yo momma is ewaste

  • @wowitsshit9734
    @wowitsshit9734 3 місяці тому

    looks like you sold someone garbage and they returned it to you

  • @GirlOnAQuest
    @GirlOnAQuest 3 місяці тому

    You just built a better steam deck lol

  • @Matbombardier6985
    @Matbombardier6985 3 місяці тому

    I have 3 of them that are used often and Microsoft version that I use for testing