The 2023 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Is The Ultimate The Driver's SUV
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Every time we review a tech-heavy new vehicle the comment section explodes with "all I want is a fun to drive car" "I want buttons back" "LCD screens are getting out of control." Well if that's you, the Alfa Romeo Stelvio is the answer. It's quite simply the best luxury CUV when it comes to driving dynamics whether you get this very green Quadrifolio model or the base 280 HP RWD model.
Elephant in the room first: No, the Stelvio won't be winning any reliability awards, if you want that, get the Lexus. On the other hand Consumer Reports does rank it above the Land Rover and Jaguar options and even the Mercedes GLB. So take that for what its worth.
The Stelvio isn't about the latest tech (the infotainment system is small and the instrument cluster is mostly analogue). It's not about the latest driving assistant tech, it does have lane centering but you won't find a Lincoln-like self driving system. What it IS about is driving.
Quite simply the best in the segment when it comes to steering, handling, feel, feedback, etc. It's not going to the be the quietest or softest riding, but when it comes to the "shut up and drive" side of the equation, it's fantastic.
What do you think? While some folks buy a car for comfy seats, cargo room, big back seats, or that ever popular "reliability", the sales proposition for the Alfa is all about what happens behind the wheel. Is that enough?
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Note: the Stelvio does have adjustable bolsters, somehow I missed them this time around.
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Maybe it was that check from BMW that made you overlook them
2 small round buttons to inflate them. Difficult to find when you do not know it. 😊
I've adjustable bolsters as standard in my quadrifoglio
@@gabrielesartori3308 they are standard on all sports seats.... Even in the 2L stelvio if you get the sport seats you get the same seats that are in the
Quadrifoglio... Again not referencing the carbon seats which are only available in the Quadrifoglio
I own a 2019 Stelvio 2L turbo and the car has been flawless. Maintenance costs have been on par with my old BMW. I have never had a problem with the car or my dealership.
Driving my Stelvio still brings a smile to my face. I’ve taken a few trips through the mountains of Southern AZ and handling was excellent and noise was minimal compared to any of the other German and Japanese cars I’ve owned.
This is very much true. When I had a lease of a 2019 Stelvio, it was quite a lot of fun, and I never had that feeling in cars that I owned afterwards.
I live in Europe and had 2011 AR 159 SW for 5 years. It was very reliable - other than maintenance I had one minor engine repair for about 600€. The stories of Alfa’s poor quality are abundant in my country but they are getting long in the tooth
@mtumasz - Everybody's complaints of reliability of any brand is getting long in the tooth. Literally every brand has people complaining about reliability, and it's just ridiculous. It's best to just tune out the morons who take pride in their negativity.
We've had Stelvio in the US for 5 years now, there should be enough data to prove reliability. Journalist like @Alex on Autos should adjust their wording on reliability instead of speaking from 1980s memories. I too have a Quadrifoglio and it has been more reliable than previous BMW and Benz vehicles I've owned.
@@jeffs6090Seriously? Reliability is a major concern! Who wants a car they can’t rely on?!😂
It’s actually refreshing to see an instrument panel that has a nice set of GUAGES, and a sensible infotainment screen that fits in the dash.
On the 2023 refresh they've lost them. It's full digital now (in Europe). ...for best (configurable and precise) and for worse (less 'sporty' less classy).
@@miks564 I mean look what they’re doing to the 2024 Porsche 911’s dash, all digital too including the tach.
Sad.
😂😂😂😂
Excellent review except for the cliche "reliability" nonsense at the end. Owner of a 2017 Giulia Quad and a 2020 Stelvio Ti Sport. Both have been flawless. Don't get me started on my German "Uber Quality" car experiences...
M 3 Sub Frame crack
M 5 Rod Bearing failure
911 IMS Bearing failure
S 5 Head Gasket failure
If you truly desire UNRELIABLE transportation, the Germans are they way to go....This isn't 1975...these Alfas are AMAZING (and you say as much multiple times in your review)
FORZA ALFA BABY !!!!
THE KING IS BACK !!!!
Sure except that an Alfa Stelvio broke down on the test track during Car and Driver's review not too long ago.
@@ACitizenOfOurWorld ... You are confusing that with a Giulia Quadrifoglio that was a Press Car and shame on them for not properly preparing the car for the rigorous testing it was going to have to endure
Amen buddy! Alfa has proven itself. My 2019 Stelvio has been flawless for 4 years! It makes me smile just thinking about driving it!
I own a 18 Ti Sport and I had zero issues over the past 4 years. It's the best car I've ever owned. It kills all Japanese competition and GLC. I would say X5 and SQ5 come close, but it's still not Alfa. This car is an emotion to drive. You are are still thinking, pull the trigger. I think it's the only drivers car left. No scifi gimmick. It's a 100% pure car.
How many miles do you have on your Stelvio?
@@bradh6185 35k miles
I own a Stelvio Sport Ti, heavily optioned. Great car. Living in remote Vancouver Island, I have a 2 hour drive to down island through mountains with curvey roads...lots of fun.
Alex , Alfa Romeo owners are simply not having any major issues with these cars what so over. I’m so shocked to hear you say that. I come here because you normally put a spot light on false rumors in the automotive space and tell the truth , but with you saying the Mercedes bmw and Audi will be more reliable than the stelvio is just 100% false. You’ve even debunked consumer reports in a video which I point to all the time for reference so i hope your not saying the Alfa reliability is bad because of what metrics like consumer reports say ... these cars are EXTREMELY solid SAYS owners. They too are even shocked because they assumed the worst !
Consumer reports knows toasters and vacuum cleaners and they love Toyotas so there you have it
Lol sure buddy. That's why mechanics love AR's because they don't see them at all. 🤣
@@stillatin they don’t. Show me where they do.
@@dinopappous6639 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLEASE BE MY FRIEND 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that is such a ME sentence 😂😂. I can’t stand Toyota’s.
@@stillatin and BMWs Mercs Audis and Porsches are bulletproof ?
I am leasing a 2022 Alfa Romeo Stelvio, and it has been fantastic! I will lease the Giulia next. 🇮🇹🇮🇹👍
Reliability for non-Quad models isn't much of an issue. What is a major issue is the dealer network. Good dealers are hard to come by, making service very tricky. You're good if you happen to be near a dealer with a competent and well-staffed service department. Otherwise, I'd look elsewhere. It's beyond frustrating not being able to have scheduled maintenance done at the dealer, with many non-dealer shops unwilling to touch an Alfa.
I’ve owned two stelvios and a levante. This is the biggest issue
Why do you think only Quads have reliability issues?
@@logical_lb3059 I don't know about Quads since I've never owned one or researched them. I only spoke to my personal experience. I wasn't suggesting that Quads were unreliable. I wouldn't know.
The Quads are pretty robust, but what does get you is the maintenance costs. Pads and discs £2.4k, Tyres £1.4k (full set PS4s) major service at 37k miles £1.4k. But smiles per miles, priceless! For me I’d say the best SUV on the market for the money, ha d mine nearly 3 years and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned
I'm not sure if its the shortage or associated dealer markups with other brands, but I took my 2017 Giulia in to my local dealer for an oil change and I was looking at the Stelvio as I'm probably going to get that next. The sales guy was telling me that the first four years they were open it was really hard to sell cars; they only had the Giulia and 4C and only gear-heads bought them. He said now the Stelvio is flying out of the store; it is the right size, great looks, fuel economy, and good enough performance for the "mass market". The purists still buy the Giulia but the Stelvio is an SUV so it is getting people who four years ago had never even heard of Alfa Romeo. It helps that no Alfa dealer in this country marks up-----they want to SELL! Market share is more important to a new brand.
Alfa Romeo is the best car for those who hate Toyota.
Toyota is the best car for those who hate cars.
I had a 2.0L Giulia for nearly five years and it was the best vehicle I've ever owned. It was more reliable than all our previous German cars and way more fun to drive. I regret selling it and would buy another Alfa in a heartbeat.
Yeah the 2.0t and ZF trans basically has killed the legacy "Fix It Again Tony" jokes from the old people. My 2017 Giulia is at 70K miles and I've replaced the battery, spark plugs, and tires------that's it.
I am an Alfista convert as of March 30 when I picked up my '23 Giulia Estrema. It's an incredible car, and with a piggyback ECU it's approaching C43 and M340i like performance, with far superior steering/handling, and in my opinion, far better looks. It's also a unique car that you will get compliments on. Personally I am not a fan of sport SUVs, but if I had a single car garage, the Stelvio would be it. Great review as always Alex.
where is your piggyback from?
@@logical_lb3059 Madness Autoworks
Very good review! I'm super happy with my Misano blue Stelvio 280hp. Drove autobahn the other day going from Sweden to the Netherlands, very steady in high speed. Superfun! But it really excels in curvy roads. Brakes on the 280 is very good. Since we have a lot of snow in Sweden I can confirm that it's a great wintercar. The perfectly balanced chassi makes it very steady on slippery surfaces. If infotament comes high on your list, go with a German car, but otherwise the Alfa has so much more personality.
Life is short, and boring cars suck, that's why I love the new Alfa's. For all their faults, they're FUN.
They have to add more exclusivity, not be afraid of being more exotic, and stop chasing bland competitors. More colors and materials options for interior, exterior, more customization. They need to learn from a Ferrari in this part of the game. All in all still a dream car!
2020 and 2021 were the peak of interior design... After that they cheaped out and went all black very gloomy... Have a 2020 Stelvio TI Sport... Trofeo white with the red interior with contrasting black accents... Bright and cheery interior especially with the panoramic roof.... starting in 2022 and beyond, if you got a red interior only the seats were red and everything else was black
Great review and I love the Alfa brand. I drive a Giulia Veloce since 2017 with no problems at all. Only a big smile every day 🔥🇮🇹👌
How many miles are on your Giulia?
@@bradh6185 65.000 km
It’s very expensive I can’t afford it. New Beautiful car
500 HP out of less than 3 liters?! That's pretty crazy. More (reported) horsepower per liter than a 911 turbo S.
That’s what you get when Ferrari develops and engineers your engine
This is standard practice for European performance engines.
@@mynameIan What other engines are 500+ HP and less than 3 liters? Any in vehicles under $100k?
@@emoney1231 I have no idea. But sport engine with high outputs in European hot hatches and other vehicles is very very common. Look at the Golf R or Mini JCW as two examples that are available in North America. If electric motors hadn’t come along, this would be very common place in the States already, simply for compliance.
@@mynameIan My point was that 500 horsepower from an engine under 3 liters is rare. Are you just saying small performance engines are common? Because obviously that's true, especially in European engines.
The stelvio and x3 and macan are the best driving SUVs.
If you want ultimate go with the stelvio or macan. If you want a responsible reliable entry get the x3 or a gv70 if you want an even safer bet with excellent driving dynamics
I’m so tired of you people butting Hyundai’s be kias with the word reliability with the engine issues and fires they continue to have. You’re literally repeating what people tell you on the internet.. and I know this because people have been putting out the vibe that the Koran’s are right under Toyota and it’s simply not true. Toyota isn’t as good as it once was either. It’s all average these days.
@@Natethegreat200c but there is a major difference in warranty, with Genesis at 10 years
@@Natethegreat200c what do u mean by u people?
Alfa Romeo all day any day over the competition! These vehicles are phenomenal!!❤
I smile every time I see one of these on the road, such a cheeky and fun vehicle in a sea of boring crossovers
The battery is in the back and in the middle just to help with the weight balance, which was one of the goals of both the Stelvio and the Giulia.
I enjoy the simplistic dash/infotainment setup of my 2018 Giulia. Real analog gauges. 👍
I have a '21 Stelvio Sport Ti from new. None better. This is THE one. 👍👍
Great analysis and I think you’re spot on if this is in the price range of a sporty SUV that’s on your shopping list. 15:20
Definitely way beyond BMW or Audi on my list. This is so different from those mass produced lollipops
You must be high
I had a 2018 Stelvio Quadrifoglio, then a Model Y Performance and now I'm back in a Stelvio Quadrifoglio. I figured one last kick at the ICE can and this thing is simply the most fun you can have in an SUV. For those that are interested consider the full carbon shell buckets that are optional. I mean, come on! How ridiculous it that!?! I couldn't resist...twice LOL
I'd consider an Alfa Romeo, but there are exactly three dealers in Northern California and they are all in the Bay Area. Sacramento (closest city to me) with 2.5 million people in the metro area doesn't have one. Going north of the Bay Area there isn't another until you hit Portland Oregon. Going south - Los Angeles. That's just way too spotty of a dealer network to feel comfortable buying one.
Alfa has some work to do in dealer count/locations and advertising.
I hear you, and the one in Portland is terrible.
It comes down to Porsche Macan or Alfa Stevio, no question. Both of these leave BMW, Mercedes and the others in the dust !
The x3m competition is close though
@@naveenthemachine test drove the X1 and X3 a week ago, hated the facelift dash, the screen sure is big , but has no flow with the rest of the dash or interior. Everything was on the touch screen , no buttons (I like buttons, hate finger prints, especially with kids). Just felt like everything was thrown together ....very odd for a German vehicle
I'm pretty sure the Stelvio does have power adjustable seat bolsters. I can even see them in the video. Am I smoking?
You're right, and I'm smoking. 👍
Considering the Stelvio body is actually 1cm wider than most rivals like the X3, GLC, Q5, I always find it funny how easy people point out that's narrower on the inside.
I believe the reason might just be the seat design that gives that impression.
3:53 - what is said about the cargo area is also wrong and it's a very common mistake we see all the time on UA-cam.
Yes the Stelvio offers 4% less cargo space than the boxy versions of the GLC, X3 or Q5 (525lts vs 550). However, it offers the same as the X4, X3i, GLC Coupe, and even more than then Q5 Sportback, the Volvo XC60 and the Macan just to mention a few.
Love this car and your reviews !! Keep up the good work
I think a lot of people hear "280 hp" (with the base version) and go to another brand such as BMW or Jag. What they don't realize is that the 280 hp Stelvio has the same 0-60 time as the 400 hp version of the Jaguar F-Pace and the Stelvio handles much better (and gets better mpg). Alpha went with lightweight materials such as aluminum body and even a Formula inspired carbon fiber drive shaft standard on all models helping keep weight down, rotational mass down, and acceleration and handling exceptional.
All in all, a fine detailed good review. But you might rethink the reliability comment.
Yes, it's known Alfa Romeo cars have been unreliable, but only amongst those who don't / never owned one.
Just sold my 2.0L Giulia Sport... for a STELVIO! ALFA POWER BABY
QV actually has adjustable bolsters. There are the two round buttons on the seat. I don't think that it uses Uconnect. I wish it had that. I own the 2.0L. Thank you for saying good things about these cars. People don't know what they are missing. In '21' April, I have got my '20 base model $10k under MSRP($33k +TTL). I'm at 22k miles and not a single issue yet.
Jaguar F-Pace SVR, Porsche Macan GTS and X3M are the real competitors.
Reliability is definitely not an issue- you are wrong.
In Race mode she chugs gas, but it’s well worth it because of the fun factor. She starts popping and banging at 3500.
FYI: I don't know if it matters, but I noticed that your last couple of videos still show a copyright date of 2022 at the bottom of the final few seconds. I enjoy your videos--keep up the good work.
The competiion is the Porsche Macan S and GTS. The Macan is exactly the same size, shape, slightly compromised interior volume and similar dynamic (if not acceleration) performance. The Macan does not start as low as the base Stelvio, but "typical" configurations are priced in line with the Stelvio. But you never mentioned it.
Macan is more reliable as well
@@ACitizenOfOurWorld Try equipping a Macan like the Stelvio and I think you'll find it way more expensive.
The Stelvio Quad handles way better than the Macan GTS. Not even close. And I own a 991.2 911 GTS. I love my Stelvio. More fun than even comprehensible.
I believe the infotainment is not UConnect related - or at least, not the standard UConnect offer we find on other Stellantis (maybe it would be better if it were). :)
And the software is not laggy. ...just to the touch screen. Using the center dial the software doesn't lag. ...but all in all, it could be better. However, it has Apple Carplay / Android Auto, so it's almost a non issue.
I own a 2020 Giulia Ti Sport and have had no issues. I'd put the reliability on par with the German competition.
I was surprised thay he didn't compare this Stelvio to Porsche Macan Turbo
Or even Macan S.
This is the only vehicle I will afford it Alex.
Stupid reliability bias. The Stelvio ranks higher in reliability than any German alternative. Do your research.
Very odd that you're reviewing a pre-facelift model just after a facelift has beeen released...many of the dowsides you've mentioned have been addressed.
Sadly the 2024 Stelvio will take a while to make it here, the 2023 will be the only one on dealer lots until latre this year. The 2024 refresh in Europe is more or less on sale now.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Gotcha, thanks. Yeah, I'm in Europe, that's why I was confused.
How reliable are BMWs in comparison? At least no-one is telling anymore that Alfas are rust-prone. Hm.
I wish someone would honestly review a normal, 2 liter version.
There are plenty on UA-cam, including some long term assessments.
@@DDd-hr6mz I haven’t seen any. All I see are Quad reviews.
The new 2024 Chevy Trax looks to be a huge value in the sub compact SUV category. Would make great content for future review if possible.
Hey Alex, what about this vs a Jag F Pace SVR?
I love this thing. Not roomy enough to replace my Durango - but I'd love to drive it!
Thanks... Good review.
would you get this or a porche macan?
my Dream Car in the new few years i Will Own this Car.. Manifest it.. Love and Blessings to All.. Peace
I am sorry but I can't stand the look of this vehicle, especially the front end and the Olympic ring style wheels. The interior looks pretty good overall. Why put the start/stop button on the steering wheel? Thanks for your review.
HAPPY THURSDAY ✌️ HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A GOOD DAY.............
I want to purchase just worried about maintenance
How much shoukd i be paying per month forcone of these. I love it and am thinking more and nods about gettinfm one
Looks like a fun car. Beyond me but nice looking.
Not U-connect. It's an Alfa based software. The 2024 refresh are going to U-Connect.
I spoke with the Alfa PR reps, they confirmed it is uConnect, it's just not uConnect 5 which is coming soon.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Thanks, I was told the opposite. Appreciate the update.
Although updated for 2020 and on model year, Stelvio and Giulia Nav systems are NOT based on U Connect....they are Tom Tom / Unique to Alfa based....The new Tonale uses U Connect 5.....
Gave up on BMW due to maintenance required and cost, not to mention ugly and poor user interfaces
I would buy NOTHING over this car. Its perfect.
Isn't the v6 engine co-developed by Ferrari?
Entire car
What about compared to the svr?
It really bothers me that the infotainment screen is noticeably not level compared to the carbon fiber trim directly in front of it.
This is the 2023 US version but not the refreshed one Alfa Romeo released a few months ago
Hey, were you at MudFest? That sure looks like the retaining wall at the Ridge!
"the european competition" you mean the german competition, as this is an italian car, right?
To me, an Alfa is the perfect car to lease. You have your fun with it and get rid of it.
That's one approach, but I purchased my Giulia as a vehicle I can keep long-term to avoid the EV craze.
@@rlsedition What do you consider long-term?
@@Radek3887 For me, at least 5-6 years ownership.
@@rlsedition I think you should be ok holding onto it for that long. My concern with an Alfa is the longer term reliability, availability of parts, and availability of people who know how to fix them. They're unique vehicles after all. Anyway, good luck. Hopefully one day I can get one for myself for a little while.
@@Radek3887 I share some of your concerns, particularly the dealers and parts, which is why I was so incensed when Stellantis chose to badge engineer the Tonale into the Dodge Hornet. I'm not interested in that type of car, but the move will hurt Alfa in the US at a time when they're vulnerable, with two older products and only three total in the showrooms. I know Dodge also needed new product, but you shouldn't rape your sister brand to get there.
Very nice SUV, but horrible lease deals!!!!
Love my 2.0 stelvio. But lease is over and I worry about buying it due to reliability
Pretty 👏
Top end trim has monotone interior....What were they thinking ?
Show me one with a decent color combo inside and out.
Again, the unreliable Alfa line is old and outdated. Reliability has been good ever since the mid 2000s when production methods changed. And the newer still Stelvio's and Giulia's have been really good as they are totally new models built differently from the ground up.
I have had 3 Alfas now, 100k miles in one, 20k in a Giulia and now into Stelvio ownership and not a single issue on any of my cars. There will always be some exceptions and the odd car that has issues, but they are rated above most of the Germans now - level with BMWs and above Audi and Mercs. Although still behind the Japanese of course.
Seriously good cars that people just need to know that they are reliable and for people to actually do homework and not just repeat what they hear others say from out of date tag lines.
My ex owned bmw and traded it after few months not reliable at all. German cars hyped!
How does the vehicle compare to porsche macan gts
Blows away the GLORIFIED VW
2.0 L turbo is reliable
Thank you for the informative review. But the real question is, when will Stellantis build a Dodge version, which will undercut it?
I think they have, and it's called the Hornet.
@@CuriousGeorge1111
The Hornet is the dodge version of the Tonale, a transverse-AWD CUV using the same platform as the jeep renegade.
They can't...This is built on the retired Giorgio platform
That's incorrect logic.... Since the Giorgio Evo/STLA Large EV are the replacement platforms.... Of course they can....
@@CrazyWeeMonkey Thanks for the correction, I was hazy on the details. :)
That Alfa is sooooo sexy. Reliability be damned 😮😊
Nothing wrong with the reliability of these.
I think you're mistaken sir
Alex, When does the Dodge version come out? Will you trade your Durango for one? 😉😂😉😂
The Dodge Hornet is an Alfa Tonale.
@@nc3826 You're not welcome, Mr. Negative. 😉
Will never happen.
How does it compare to the Porsche Macan GTS?
The Macan GTS is about $10-$20k more expensive depending on options. It's much more luxurious and premium in terms of goodies and design. It's just as fast and quick in a straight line but it's not quite as nimble and sporty in the handling compared to the Stelvio QV. So the Macan is slightly more design for luxury, tech, and comfort. Stelvio is a bit more on dynamics, handlng, and sport.
Thanks for the reply gents.
How about GV70 3.5T Sport Prestige. About 70k and a hoot to drive.
Like Jesus it comes to you from the horses /animal farm.
$40K-$90K hmm buy 2 base models ?
Every hot dog version is expensive.
Only negative is the v6 Ferrari engine, should obviously be a v8
Drivers SUV? Ah yes, like the frugal man’s yacht, and the politician’s honesty.
I dare you to try driving one of these.
@hughdunn6486 People are so narrow-minded. All you have to do is watch the damn Nurburgring record lap. This thing is incredible. Mine's been perfect for 2 years. I keep up with 911's, Jags and BMW coupes in thr canyons and switchbacks of Arizona. Other drivers can't believe it.
The history of reliability keeps me from considering an Alfa Romeo. What will the same money get me at Toyota or Lexus?
It won’t get you anything 😂. You’ll 99% chance get a dressed up rav4.
I’ve wanted one for years, but I wish it had the chops to go the distance. :(
Distance of what? The grocery store ? If you’re talking about reliability you’re a lost soul If you think these are unreliable. Better do research WITH OWNERS. If you keep doing research with consumer reports and other bs outlets, you’ll continue to be lost.
@@Natethegreat200c I've never understood why people put their faith in Consumer Reports. I have owned many cars that were rock-solid reliable but that Consumers rated as having poor reliability.
@@tedunguent156 same. I have two DON DON DON 🥁 roll please !!! Chrysler 200’s!! 🥰 Neither have been problem free but never UNRELIABLE or extremely problematic and one has 200k. I always can count on both my Chryslers. Mom has been with them since the Lebaron! We have and always will drive Chrysler products and have and always will have great experiences owning or leasing them. Period. I wouldn’t be caught dead in a accord or Camry.
Hey Alex, could you start reviewing Porsche?
Beautiful ride. But can’t handle the Pontential for having it service bay instead of the road
Alex 5'11 but 6'0 on youtube and Tinder
I've been reading lots of owner comments, and I'm not convinced that this isn't a fairly reliable car. It's hard to consider though, being familiar with the history of Italian brands and their reliablility.
6:00 *Peugeot
A French suv built by Chrysler- what could go wrong?
@@m-cw7er When was the last time you tried a French car?
Alex, Isn't this Stelvio just a plus-sized Dodge Hornet? 😉😉😉
No this is a rwd based car based on a different platform compared to the fwd based platform in the hornet
Wrong car. The Alfa Tonale is the one based on the Dodge Hornet
@@jonathanhidalgo4591 I know 😉
@@jonathanhidalgo4591 .. Wrong...Hornet is based off Tonale ..not the other way around
@@dinopappous6639 Yes, Stellantis ripped off Alfa Romeo for the Hornet.
How did you keep the mechanic out of the frame?!
What a headache owning that must be. No thanks.