WHAT IS A HOOK RULE short #24 tubalcain lufkin starrett

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  • @bearsrodshop7067
    @bearsrodshop7067 Рік тому +2

    Lye, I can remember to this day when my Granpa Tim ( master cabinet maker) always wore bib overall's and never went any where with out a folding ruler in the side leg pocket. When he was made to go to church with us and Grandma, it was part of his dress attire. She would scold him, but she never won out. If he could have his wishes, I think he would wanted to be buried along with one of his folding wooden ruler's 🤔. I still have 3 of them today, thanks for the memories!

  • @danermer2955
    @danermer2955 Рік тому +2

    Now I know what another mystery piece in the box of tools is, a drill grinding gauge. Thanks!

  • @bobbyw9046
    @bobbyw9046 Рік тому +1

    Mr.Pete - you are always costing me more $$ - lol!! Never had a 6"hook rule and always wanted one. Will get one now.

  • @chuckyounger7298
    @chuckyounger7298 Рік тому +7

    OMG... I’m 77 years old, have two Lufkin Zig-Zag wooden rulers, and JUST learned this morning that the one end swings down to form a hook!

  • @BigPete7407
    @BigPete7407 Рік тому +3

    Hi Mr Pete, I'm Pete and a printer by trade from the old letterpress days. To answer your question 12 points to a pica 6 picas to an inch or 72 points. Great episode and a fine instructional piece on hook rules. Best shop teacher ever!

  • @tuffymartinez
    @tuffymartinez Рік тому +1

    I CONFESS... I AM HOOKED ON WHATEVER YOU FEEL LIKE PRESENTING. I ALWAYS LEARN, AM INTERTAINED AND I DO NOT WANT YOU STOP E-V-E-R-!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you Lyle Peterson .. Your true value will probably not be appreciated until you find you have to stop ... When that happens I will cry!!!!!..... TM

  • @jimbennett1519
    @jimbennett1519 Рік тому +13

    The hook rules were cool but the fascinating part of the video was the variety of them you have. You managed to make a hook rule video extremely interesting. Thanks for sharing

  • @AWDJRforYouTube
    @AWDJRforYouTube Рік тому +2

    Another great video Lyle...I'm hooked!

  • @bobjimenez4464
    @bobjimenez4464 Рік тому +2

    Good Morning Mr. Pete, the hook rule is one of those tools that I've neglected to buy for my toolbox. Trust me, I've been tempted many times to lay down the cold cash for one of good quality.
    You can take pride in knowing that this video has initiated my mission to obtain at least the thin Starrett and possibly the Lufkin with the knife edge hook rules. : )

  • @DominickCascianoIII
    @DominickCascianoIII Рік тому +1

    thanks Mr Pete, I'm hooked, enjoyed the short subject and the extra credit pictures of the catalog and the self portrait

  • @P61guy61
    @P61guy61 Рік тому +2

    Your videos RULE! Thank you for posting.

  • @roylucas1027
    @roylucas1027 Рік тому +10

    Once again you’ve filled in my knowledge on a subject I should have been competent in. Thank you.

  • @dannyl2598
    @dannyl2598 Рік тому +3

    Thank you Mr Pete. I did not know about the screw being eccentric. Not knowing, I would have screwed it up. Have a great day.

  • @pyromedichd1
    @pyromedichd1 Рік тому +8

    My dad was a carpenter and he used a folding rule for years until tape measures came out. That sliding extension is great for inside measurements.

  • @aceroadholder2185
    @aceroadholder2185 Рік тому +2

    PEC rules are still USA made and are available from suppliers like Travers Tool. A few dollars less than the Starrett but nicely made. PEC uses the cam screw to adjust the position of the hook. As best I can tell the Starrett hooks are all fixed now which is the reason I bought the PEC. Somewhere between $30-$40 for either rule.
    Import rules are much cheaper, but as always, in 25 years the Starrett and PEC quality will still be there and the price long forgotten. An often overlooked feature of tools such as those made by Starrett is that if you lose or damage a special screw or component you can get a replacement part. With your mystery brand tool you are pretty much out of luck fixing it.
    Cheers from NC/USA

  • @Jack-yl7cc
    @Jack-yl7cc Рік тому +5

    Thanks for the vid! My only problem with these "shorts" is that they tend to show things I haven't seen before but now want to get. Like that PEC tools drill point gauge; I looked them up and found that they are still being made in the USA but only sold via industrial suppliers.

  • @AmateurRedneckWorkshop
    @AmateurRedneckWorkshop Рік тому +1

    yes I am hooked on rules. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus Рік тому +1

    I have that exact same Lufkin zig zag ruler with the brass extension but I never noticed the little hook on it until now. It was my dad's and I inherited it after he died a few years back, I don't use it which is probably why I never noticed the hook portion, I just keep it hanging above my work bench as a reminder of him.

  • @richardlafleur3974
    @richardlafleur3974 Рік тому +2

    I have a 6", 12", 24", and 48" Starrett satin chrome hook rules with # 4 graduations. I use them all the time for laying out patterns and general lay out work for the last 50 years as a cabinet maker / millman

  • @Radiotexas
    @Radiotexas Рік тому +1

    12 points = 1 pica. Six picas to the inch. 72 point type is 1 inch tall. They called them "pica poles" around here. I still have several! Thanks Mr. Pete!

  • @joecolanjr.8149
    @joecolanjr.8149 Рік тому +3

    I have acquired 3 of those over the years. Back when i was a material handler at the first shop i worked at the boss gave me my first one!! Still have it! The other 2 were from garage sales or flea market finds! Thanks for the video Mr.Pete!!

  • @tjr4744
    @tjr4744 Рік тому +1

    Now i know everything ... or maybe not .lol ... Thank you Mr Pete :)

  • @jimdean7335
    @jimdean7335 Рік тому +1

    You’ve really got me hooked now….

  • @paulhunt598
    @paulhunt598 Рік тому +1

    For all the vast number of machinist tools that I own, I do not have any machinist grade hook rules. I haven't found any in my used tool sources and I haven't sprung for the cost of new tools. Your collection and variety makes me jealous, bordering of breaking a 10 Commandments.

  • @robert574
    @robert574 Рік тому +1

    Very informative, thanks for a great and up to date video. You might laugh, but I use these small rulers all the time on my computer. I capture pictures of the rulers on my screen and save them in a Rulers directory. When I see something like a chuck or a part I'm interested in, I capture a picture of it, paste it onto a spreadsheet then insert one of the rulers on top of it. I stretch the ruler to match some dimension on the part and then it's to scale. Then I can easily move the ruler around, flip it, rotate it and take any measurement I want. I use them all the time, sometimes metric, 1/10 inch scale or fractions and lots of different lengths. I hadn't realized that hook was on some of the rulers I've used in the past. My dad always had one of those folding rulers in his overalls pocket when he built and worked on our house. I fiddled with it a lot and never saw that hook (that was probably best). BTW Did you see me? I had my hand up.🙋‍♂

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  Рік тому +1

      Yes, I did see your hand up and I called on you. Great idea you had on using and scaling pictures with an imaginary ruler. I often would like to measure something that is on the screen to get an idea of the true dimensions.

    • @robert574
      @robert574 Рік тому +1

      @@mrpete222 The other nice thing is that I don't have to put them up when I'm done. I just leave them on the picture and keep scrolling down dropping another picture below that one. It gets to be like a long roll of toilet paper. I have to remember to put some actual words around them so I can search and find it again. I have years and years of them. What do you call that when they put a whole bunch of pictures together? That's what it looks like, then another topic and another...

  • @4SafetyTraining
    @4SafetyTraining Рік тому +2

    Got to say you got me hooked on your shorts, 😊

  • @TonyBarr99
    @TonyBarr99 Рік тому +1

    Great video. I have a B&S hook rule that I use. I never knew the screw was an unthreaded eccentric. I know now! Thank you Mr. Pete!

  • @rossstenner4402
    @rossstenner4402 Рік тому +1

    Another tool I didn't know that I needed added to the shopping list

  • @davehiggins5903
    @davehiggins5903 Рік тому +1

    Now I need a hook rule.thanks for the video.

  • @davidbramel345
    @davidbramel345 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting!! You have forgotten more than I'll ever know!!

  • @edwickyates5374
    @edwickyates5374 Рік тому +3

    Interesting, always something to learn.

  • @ErikBongers
    @ErikBongers Рік тому

    Screws without threads!? Sure, I learned something today!

  • @johnquinn3899
    @johnquinn3899 Рік тому +1

    Keep one in my apron pocket all the time. John

  • @4GSR
    @4GSR Рік тому +1

    Dad had a 9" Starrett hook rule he carried in his hip pocket when he used to work in the shop. Over the years the edges became so worn you couldn't read the lines on the scale. I wish I had that hook rule today. I did score a 9" Union hook rule off eBay years ago. I have several in my collection including a 36" Starrett hook rule I bought new back in 1980. Oh, don't get me started on zigzag Lufkin rules!!! As always, thanks for sharing!

  • @strongandco
    @strongandco Рік тому +1

    I have a 6" hook rule on my desk, it's been with me for 25+ years and was issued to me shortly after my apprenticeship. It has a hook that most closely resembles the Brown and Sharp model but otherwise it more closely resembles the one with a drill guide (it too has a drill guide) except one side is metric (it was purchased in the UK). Other than Tempered and USA though it has no markings except for the scale. It would be interesting to find out who manufactured it?
    On a side note one of our old boys used to say you should be able to machine down to 0.005" with a hook rule and he could put his money where his mouth is.

  • @brianatbtacprod1989
    @brianatbtacprod1989 Рік тому +1

    You keep showing Lufkin tools, and until I started watching your channel I didn't know they were as big a deal as they are/were. My first tape measure was a Lufkin. It wasn't anything special. It had a plastic case, was 50f long, the tape cranked in (no spring). I used some of my birthday money to buy it. I think I was 6 or 7. I still have it, and occasionally use it. Somewhere along the way the fastener that held the tape to the crank broke, and I decided to fix it, rather than toss it. After seeing some of your videos, I look for Lufkin first.
    PEK is still in business. There as tons of tools that look just like them online, but I have bought several of theirs because I liked my original double square, and they are made here. Even better, I lost the adjustment screw out of my double square, and they actually would sell me just the adjustment screw. It wasn't a ridiculous price, nor the shipping.

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown Рік тому +1

    I only last year got my first hook rule and find I really love it.....thank you for a great video, cheers, Paul

  • @oddshot60
    @oddshot60 Рік тому +2

    Mr Pete, every time you mention Starrett, Brown & Sharpe or Lufkin on your program, prices of their tools listed on Ebay go through the roof. So much so, I really think you should be getting a piece of the action, or at least a mention: "As Seen On Mr. Pete's".

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  Рік тому +1

      Yes, I wish somebody would do that

  • @DDB168
    @DDB168 Рік тому +2

    Love the cartoon at the end. You hide the hole in your hand very well 😉

  • @edcallahan6952
    @edcallahan6952 Рік тому +2

    Like the content I have have several 9 inch combination squares they are a nice size, I know at least one of them is lurkin thank s again Ed

  • @RRINTHESHOP
    @RRINTHESHOP Рік тому +1

    Very nice review and all the options to the rules. For hand grinding drill the drill gauge is a must.😊😊😊😊😊

  • @swarfscaledrossandflash1884
    @swarfscaledrossandflash1884 Рік тому +1

    I was recently restoring my slightly rotted barn window and wanted a tape with a hook on the top side. I found the Lufkin L1116 with hooks and markings on both sides of the tape. I was able to get a more accurate measurement looking across the still un-rotted portion of the window stile to the tape.

  • @llapmsp
    @llapmsp Рік тому +1

    Like the subject, love the cartoons. I didn't know there are so many different types of hook rules. Thanks for sharing.

  • @62Cristoforo
    @62Cristoforo Рік тому

    The rules you’ve shown remind me of the collection of rules I inherited from my uncle and my father, both technicians in their own fields.

  • @jjbode1
    @jjbode1 Рік тому

    That loose hook you found and described at 6:00 is indeed a Starrett, just like the one that fit the slide I lost in the laundry.

  • @jameshudson7471
    @jameshudson7471 Рік тому +1

    I'm hooked on this channel.

  • @charleskutrufis9612
    @charleskutrufis9612 Рік тому

    Didn't have a clue, do not remember seeing one. Learned something today. Thanks

  • @oralpierce45
    @oralpierce45 Рік тому

    Love the education keep up the great work you remind me of my shop teacher back in the 70,s

  • @bc65925
    @bc65925 Рік тому +1

    I have that exact Lufkin in my blacksmith tool box, really like it. Never did see one of those logger rules in the 40 some odd years of being around the sawmill. Dad always had his 4 foot Lufkin Log and Lumber rule in the side pocket of his bibs though.

  • @phillipjones3342
    @phillipjones3342 Рік тому

    How very cool and interesting thanks for sharing this one

  • @peltona
    @peltona Рік тому

    Always more to lean. Thanks Mr. Pete

  • @ggordon4127
    @ggordon4127 Рік тому +2

    Interesting in that the only hook rule in the KBC catalog, all 836 pages, that I could find, is the PEC.

  • @adamgarrison4400
    @adamgarrison4400 Рік тому +2

    Very interesting, thank you for all your hard work.

  • @727jetjumper
    @727jetjumper Рік тому

    More great content... thanks again Mr. Pete!

  • @michaelcerkez3895
    @michaelcerkez3895 Рік тому

    I didn't know the "screw" at the end was in fact an eccentric. Thank you Sir.

  • @PaulSteMarie
    @PaulSteMarie Рік тому +2

    Long 'e' sound in "pica" when you're referring to the typesetting unit. We always called that a "pica pole" in the newsroom.
    There's 12 points to a pica. The better question is "How long is a pica?", to which the answer is 0.166", exactly.
    I wonder if that rule has garnets on the other side. Those used to be used for measuring ads in layout.
    PEC is still in business. Not quite as nice as Starrett, but much less expensive. They're the only company that seems to be selling a 16R hook rule these days. Starrett only has them with fractional graduations.

  • @Stillpoint23
    @Stillpoint23 Рік тому +1

    Nice video, I'm currently getting into blacksmithing, and I've noticed that most if not all blacksmiths have a hook rule. I might make one from an old carpenters square I have in my pile of old tools. Might be aluminum so that poses a problem or two. But I like knowing that there are options out there that might be more precise. Thanks Mr. Teach for the overview of the va5rious types out there to choose from 🔥

  • @tonypike5785
    @tonypike5785 Рік тому

    I enjoy all your videos. Thanks

  • @2dividedby3equals666
    @2dividedby3equals666 Рік тому

    I had no idea that some of these had that, in my opinion, very elegant, cam locking lug. I do believe that PEC is still in business, but I could be wrong. Despite not owning any, they do appear to be very good quality. Thanks for sharing Mr. Peterson, it is alqays a pleasure!

  • @frankward709
    @frankward709 Рік тому

    The blacksmith Hook rule Thanks for the video

  • @kitmaira
    @kitmaira Рік тому +1

    I shop estate sales all the time and have found many machinist tools of all types, but have yet to find a hook rule. I look for them all the time.

  • @angelramos-2005
    @angelramos-2005 Рік тому

    Yes,very interesting.Thank you.

  • @briantaylor9266
    @briantaylor9266 Рік тому +2

    I'm primarily a woodworker, and even I have a 12" hook rule.
    It looks like the hook on your tape measure may be bent, maybe from a drop. My friend's tape measure was bent that way, and it took us quite a while to figure out why we could never agree on measurements 🙂

  • @donaldkormos5529
    @donaldkormos5529 Рік тому

    Thanks Mr Pete!!

  • @floridaflywheelersantiquee7578

    Good info thanks for sharing MrPete

  • @rwallace1625
    @rwallace1625 Рік тому

    Thanks Mr Pete

  • @100yojimbo
    @100yojimbo Рік тому

    Wonderfull selection of hook rules you have there MrPete 😍😍

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown Рік тому

    some good learning with this video.....thanks

  • @grntitan1
    @grntitan1 Рік тому +2

    PEC still makes tools including hook rules. I believe they are still USA made as well.

  • @scottjones7279
    @scottjones7279 Рік тому

    Bubba stays busy. Ebay prices jump on the items that you highlight. Always hang around for the extra credit.

  • @tom87pate
    @tom87pate Рік тому +2

    I bought my first hook rule on eBay a couple of years ago and I jokingly told the guys in the shop that I bought a hooker over the weekend.

  • @athrunzala5337
    @athrunzala5337 Рік тому

    Nice video

  • @G1951-w1y
    @G1951-w1y Рік тому

    Besides being a hobby machinist, I'm also a woodworker, have a 24" hook rule and do my tablesaw setups with dial indicators and thickness measurements with calipers.

  • @filobeto1691
    @filobeto1691 Рік тому +1

    Nice vid. I recognized that small Lufkin tape measure with the ‘Chrome Clad’ blade. Have several myself.
    PEC rules were purchased by the government since they were USA made. I was a machinist in the Air Force and that was the brand supplied. Never liked them as the scale is difficult to read. Not as crisp as a B.S., Lufkin, or Starrett.
    The sharpest scale I own is a ‘Arch’ brand, made in Japan. I have 2, 6” 4R scales. One satin one black.
    As a professional tool nerd I have searched for years looking for a few more. Nothing, zilch, nada. Anyone heard of ‘Arch’ scales?

  • @kensherwin4544
    @kensherwin4544 Рік тому +2

    8:02 "He used it as a hammer". Remember, to some people, everything's a hammer.

  • @backyardbasher
    @backyardbasher Рік тому

    In the UK a company called Axminster sell Metric 300mm & 150mm satin stainless hook rules, they are excellent quality, I have one of each size as well as their rule with the 0 in the center and really happy with them.

  • @Raymond.Butler
    @Raymond.Butler Рік тому +2

    If you had asked thar 30 years ago, I'd have a solid answer. I was studying printing for a job that disappeared and I never used that bit of information. But a shot in the dark, I think 12.

    • @dannyl2598
      @dannyl2598 Рік тому +1

      I just remember that the two options on an electric typewriter were 10 and 12. I don't even remember what the other one was called.

    • @samclemens2916
      @samclemens2916 Рік тому +2

      Elite

    • @dannyl2598
      @dannyl2598 Рік тому

      @@samclemens2916 thanks

  • @christurley391
    @christurley391 Рік тому

    Thanks again

  • @richardoleson7934
    @richardoleson7934 Рік тому

    OK, now I want one, but which one?? Thanks for continuing to educate us in all things machining.

  • @henryneyens5066
    @henryneyens5066 Рік тому +1

    Good comic, where'd you find it?

  • @4speed3pedals
    @4speed3pedals Рік тому +1

    i had to look up the Pica. There are 12 points in 1 pica and 6 picas in 1 inch. There are 72 points in 1 inch. I too have a hook rule and forget to use it. More often than not, my choice has been a 6" or 8" dial caliper and the hook rule sits.
    I have a couple zig zag rules and we my dad always called it a carpenters rule,

  • @goptools
    @goptools Рік тому

    Hi Mr. Pete. There is a company called Products Engineering Company and goes by the abbreviation PEC Tools, that sells hook rules on Amazon. Supposedly, they are made in the USA. I don't know if they are the same PEC mentioned in your video or just a coincidence. Thanks for the video!

  • @duron700r
    @duron700r Рік тому

    I wonder if I have a peco type for sewing in grandma's then mom's accessories. Has a slot down the middle of the rule. Suppose for marking or some-such.
    I've never seen these before and yes a couple would be awful handy in the shop.

  • @donmittlestaedt1117
    @donmittlestaedt1117 Рік тому +1

    To measure thread depth, I used a broken tap extractor finger that i ground to narrow the hook end to catch the thread at the bottom of the blind hole. I also ground notched on the length of the leg to indicate the depths. Those legs could also be brazed into a small hole in the end of a rod to get extra length. The alternative was taking time to turn in a thread gauge to the depth.

  • @c0mputer
    @c0mputer Рік тому +1

    12 points in a pica. 6 picas in an inch. I worked in prepress and typesetting.

  • @62Cristoforo
    @62Cristoforo Рік тому

    I used to know kerning, points, picas, ems and ens when I was learning typesetting and layout design.

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  Рік тому

      I used to know all of that my heart 50 years ago

  • @Ensign_Cthulhu
    @Ensign_Cthulhu Рік тому

    Now I want one. :)

  • @beetlejuice4693
    @beetlejuice4693 Рік тому

    I have one in my apron with the drill point attachment I use it as a depth gauge alot

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  Рік тому

      It never occurred to me to use it as a depthstop. Thanks.

  • @johncloar1692
    @johncloar1692 Рік тому

    Thanks Mr Pete for the video I have heard them call rulers as well as rule I don't think it make any difference, except to my english teacher.

  • @rcurry8531
    @rcurry8531 Рік тому

    👍👍👍

  • @DavidHerscher
    @DavidHerscher Рік тому

    Only Mr Pete can send me to eBay in legitimate search for rulers…

  • @roysnider3456
    @roysnider3456 Рік тому

    I have a hook rule because I worked as a CNC machine operator.

  • @MrAvjones
    @MrAvjones Рік тому +1

    When's Bubba's birthday?

  • @comictrio
    @comictrio Рік тому

    I have probably 30 steel rulers, but not one has a hook rule. :)

  • @williamellis3961
    @williamellis3961 Місяць тому

    I have a folding rule for brick work.

  • @debeeriz
    @debeeriz Рік тому

    12 points to pica and 6 ems to an inch

  • @1957StrokerPan
    @1957StrokerPan Рік тому +1

    Are you kidding? You haven't even reached your prime yet!