Thanks for watching this one, you guys loved it by the feedback, and tomorrow we have the flagship 8 core going against the almighty Ryzen 5800X3D. Though I will reiterate I didn't have as much time to tune the intel CPUs as I would have liked, so the 4.4GHz on air is just a stock bang up, and tomorrows overclock on the 8 core i7-5960x is really not that impressive at all (well it might be ok cause we are on a budget air cooler?) Also we are in Taiwan too for Computex, hope to see you guys there! or at least in chat!
love this kind of content. i can see this used stuff becoming very relevant again given the disappointing offerings. loved your content back in the golden era of used pc gaming.
I've always loved these old Intel processors, especially Xeons, but it seems to me that in addition to the newer cheap CPUs from AMD and Intel, they unfortunately have nothing more to look for. Because of videos like this, I've been following you for years and I can't wait for your next installment on this topic. Proud owner of i7 3770K, which I replaced the existing problematic Gigabyte MB with MSI's yesterday and which I have been using for almost 10 years without any difficulties even today. Many greetings from Serbia! ;-)
What ever you come up with for this particular comparison would be amazing Bryan! These are the excact 2 CPUs my friend and I need to compare! Your hard work is always much appreciated!
You are literally the only tech-tuber I can count on for videos like this. I actually thought of this video idea last month and thought of you. Thanks for picking that up from the air waves, mate.
It definitely hangs with first and 2nd gen Ryzen especially when overclocked. I ran an x79 system into the dirt and ended up skipping x99. Turns out that x99 was probably Intel's last terrific HEDT platform for the masses. x299 was terrible and so far nothing new from them which kind of makes sense since 12th and 13th gen are pretty strong. PCIE lanes are an issue though for power users still.
@@TheJamesKFIntel's Sapphire Rapids/W790 HEDT platform launched earlier this year, but motherboard prices are not really as affordable as X99 was, back in the day - yet!
@@ArtisChroniclesyup, I chose 5820K/X99/quad DDR4 over 4790K/Z97/dual DDR3. After a rebate from Intel, the prices weren't very different for the board+CPU (DDR4 was more expensive than DDR3, though). No regrets.
Still rocking a 5960x on an Asus X99 Ws mATX mobo....32 gb Corsair Vengence and Asus Tuff RTX 3070. Been going strong for almost 8 yrs! Hard to believe it was released a Decade ago..Holla Back 2014
Damn that 5820K is damn impressive. I used to have CPU once before I upgraded to my present 9900K. Now seeing this review, I wished I still kept it on a secondary PC.
thanks for the video! I'm still running i7-5820K OC'ed at 4.3GHz (all cores, fully stable, no BIOS tweaking of power delivery) with quad-channel 32GB 2666MHz RAM on ASUS X99-S motherboard, paired with ASUS GTX 1080 Ti, and what's also cool is the (bootable) M.2 PCIe 3.0 port, back in the day almost nobody knew what's it for, and nowadays with NVME SSD prices dropping, it brings yet more life to this platform
Note that this $370 9 year old cpu still plays games totally fine. Back in 2014 quad core i7's were considered as overkill for games and "i5 is all you need" phrase was still very popular. If you add something like 4690k to this test suite, even budget 5820k would absolutely demolish it. The main take away from this is dont blindly follow mainstream media recommendations, look at your needs and expectations, study your available choices and act accordingly. Whoever ignored common consensus and bought this 5820k over slightly higher clocked 4790k, won big time.
Would love to see an update to this comparison with the LAST last (fr this time) DDR 4 6 core: the 5600X3D. The separation in the charts would be phenomenal.
Still running this processor, but with 3200 DDR4 quad channel and an EVGA board. Its an absolute legend and still keeps up in modern games. I'll finally have to upgrade due to tpm requirements for Windows 11 next year. Will be sad to see it go. Had to check in, thanks for honoring this GOAT.
Bro, you're awesome... This is something I love about TYC, being down to Earth and paying visits to past components to compare them to current ones... I remember other channels calling a 7th gen obsolete or very old.... I have personally been rocking an X58 system until last year, when I completely moved to team red... Your videos are always awesome; keep it up :)
With different memory subsystems (dual vs quad) and speeds a couple of shots from AIDA64 memory bandwidth/latency screen would have been greatly appreciated. And to showcase (lack of) memory difference then adding Spiderman: remastered to benchmark suite might be a good idea because it is usually sensitive to memory setup and is a CPU intensive game. Also in a CPU-bound scenarios 4090 might not be the best choice to get best performance (see Iceberg Tech's recent video on Nvidia's driver overhead).
I gotta say, I did *not* expect that old 5th gen intel to hold up that well to something so many generations newer. TBH it makes me feel a little better about still being on my 8c/8t 9700k, which I was otherwise feeling like I "have" to upgrade soon... well, not *have* to , but you know that tech upgrade itch goes. 😅 Thanks for making content like this. There aren't enough channels covering this kind of thing, as opposed to just reviews/benchmarks of the newest releases.
It's actually 4th Gen (haswell) it's not 5th Gen (Broadwell) based. Also the cpu was OC to 4.4ghz which is about where they went without needing really beefy cooling and a whole lot of power. Haswell architecture was only good upto that clockspeed really. I think people also forget that Zen3 came out literally 3 years ago now... So the 5600x utterly destroyed the 5820k for $300 (launch msrp) 6 years later. The Zen2 chips like the 3900x also handily beat it in 2018 but not for less money which is still impressive. Honestly anyone who got a 5820k at launch really got their money's worth in a way that we may never see again.
Funny thing is I am still running a 6900k/x99 based build - still holds it's own, now in some areas I can see it's an aging platform. But I can say it's hard for me to move to something more mainstream with the 40 on-board PCIe lanes compared to consumer mainstream options (The lanes come in handy when running Raid cards and network additions).
That's what still bothers me about the newer stuff. You just don't get anywhere near the amount of PCIe lanes that I'd like. Feels like a regression in that area, especially where nvme slots are concerned. I just don't understand the thought process behind it.
Damn... i was unnececery replaced my 980 ti for used 3000 series card. This CPU can handle 3060/4060ti at 95% GPU utilization. SLI becomes unused technology in year or two after last SLI-comp G-Card release. Think about upgrade ;)
Yes i still use motherboardbasus x99 a + i7 5930k + stok cooling intel thermal solution ts13 delta and sapphire nitro rx580 is still awesome till know. Tech yes city great video as always. cheers
Still rocking my 5820k which was part of my dream build ages ago. Had to tone down my overclock to 4.3 in the past couple of years but it's been a great chip. Thanks for the comparison.
@@Physics072 The odd bootup overclock failed message. Not a big deal tbh just don't have the desire to mess with it as much anymore. Been a great chip for years.
@@SkylineFinesse Most likely however I have reached that age where I think to myself 'You grew up playing Intellivison is 4 more FPS really that big of a deal?' 🤣
I've always loved these old Intel processors, especially Xeons, but it seems to me that in addition to the newer cheap CPUs from AMD and Intel, they unfortunately have nothing more to look for. Because of videos like this, I've been following you for years and I can't wait for your next installment on this topic. Proud owner of i7 3770K, which I replaced the existing problematic Gigabyte MB with MSI's yesterday and which I have been using for almost 10 years without any difficulties even today. Many greetings from Serbia! ;-)
just ordered a 5820k for 28 euros, and im so excited :D. actually more excited than i was when i ordered my brand new Zen3 setup back then. last week i scored a deal on an (once) epic workstation for 230 euros: - 1080 ti founders edition - xeon 2630v4 10c/20t - max all core boost 2,4GHz (hence the 5820k as replacement) - Asus x99-a ii - 32 GB 2133 DDR4 - BeQuiet Dark Power Pro 11 850w platinum - Bequiet Dark Base 900 (man what a monstrosity)
People talking about how "well the 5820k aged" and how its still a "tank" I think this is more a testament to how it took almost a decade for intel to even remotely innovate
Used to have a 5820k. Great cpu and great overclocker too. At the time the 6700k (I believe) was the direct competitor to it but the 5820k being only slightly more expensive with motherboard and having more cores was the much better deal which is why I bought it originally :).
This was a great video. I always enjoy how your content shows what people can get out of older hardware. Meanwhile my main game these days is Star Citizen and it makes my 8750H cry and was the only reason I upgraded my 6700k when I did to a 12700k lol
I just upgraded a customer of mine for under $300 USD with an upgraded platform from AM3+ to AM4. He is getting a Ryzen 5 5500, an Asus A520M, 32GB of Corsair 3200 DDR4, and a 1TB Silicon Power A60. The price drops and Memorial Day sales are insane. The total was $312.56 (Tax) shipped overnight for free. I'm building the system and installing windows, backing up his files etc...for $60 roughly.
I have this cpu with a Gigabyte x99 gaming 5 mb a 32Gb quad channel memory kit @2666mhz cl12, the cpu is clocked @4.2 ghz. I recently upgraded to an rtx4070ti super and i was very surprised 😊 this decade old cpu now is still able to catch up with an rtx 4070ti super even in cpu intensive games titles such as the last of us part 1, with an average fps of 90 @ 4k max settings dlss quality without frame generation ❤
Man, now this is a hit home video. I bought my 5820k when it first came out. Still running to this day and I just don't have a reason to upgrade yet. Just upped my ram to 64gb, ssds, and a 1080ti and I can do just about anything and I game at 4K!
Playing WoW classic doesn't mean "gaming" at 4k. I had a 1080 Ti, it WAS an awesome card for years but it's outdated. I could list games you aren't playing at 4k, or even 1440p high detail at 60 FPS but there is no need to make paragraphs. again 1080 Ti WAS a great value but I'm so sick of hearing people say it's still a relevant card, it really isn't for any high end graphics game. If older games are your jam (which I still play, I just did a 10th playthrough of Fallout NV 100 mods), then ok. A Ford Model T will still get you around a city with a 30mph speed limit just fine but you aren't cruising the freeways with it.
@@Cruor34? Ummm, okay, I'm not sure where you were going with this or trying to disprove. I play at 4K medium/high or I adjust things. Most uneducated gamers just think slap a setting on ultra means the best. When you game at 4K there's a alot of settings you can turn down or off due to the resolution. This has been debunked long ago. And just for kicks, I play the dead space remake at 4K so 🤷
@@Cruor34 The 1080ti performs around the 2080-level and has more vram. Yes, it lacks RTX-features, DLSS and so on, but saying that it can play games in 4K is so wrong on so many levels. You don´t need the graphics set to ultra in order to play games at 4K and you don´t need 144 fps to enjoy single player games, do you? Yes, the more fps the merrier, but come on, get off your high horse. I currenly use a 2070 @ 1440p and play Forza Horizon 5, WW3, Ready or Not and BF2042, and have zero issues doing so. The 2070 is certainly not as fast as a 1080ti. Why is it that you felt the need to bash on a guys comment about using a 1080ti? Did your 1080ti hurt you or something?
@@Cruor34 what are you on about let the dude enjoy his own things, not everything needs to be the absolute ultra preset to enjoy a game, if it runs well on medium who the fuck cares, a 1080ti can still run a majority of games now so leave the dude in peace.
I game at 4k on a GTX 1080. Currently watching my daughter play apex legends at over 100fps and I've gotten many comments from her about how clear and beautiful it is compared to her setup. You can game at 4k on several generation old hardware. I can't barely see the difference in med and ultra on any game I play so that takes the 1080 up above a 1080 ti just because I understand that resolution is vastly more important than graphical settings. Keep 4k gaming on mid range hardware. Just don't expect Hogwarts or cyberpunk to break 40fps.. still playable.
Older intel cpus still great..but I really like the AMD 65 w cpu TDP Pretty nice longevity…6year old b450 tomahawk…I put 1700,2700,3700x cpu in this board…running great 3700x and 2080ti..to this day
My B450 Tomahawk only lasted for an absurdly short time. I just got it on January 3, 2020 to unexpectedly find it off in the other room one day in summer, 2022! Looks like MOSFET failure. Symptoms: Found it off and it won't turn on again. Not even lit LEDs! The CPU I had on it at the time, was the Ryzen 7 3700X. (still works)
In the UK, CEX sells the 5820K for just 11 UKP + shipping, very cheap (better than ebay). Tricky part is finding a decent mbd. One down side of the 5820K is its more limited PCIe lane provision (only 28 lanes, vs. 40 lanes for the 5930K), which means on typical mbds one must bare in mind tradeoffs of which ports/slots are available at what speeds/widths, but that probably doesn't matter for most use cases, though if one did want the full lane count then the 5930K is only 20 UKP from CEX. 9:15 - That's where one has to take note of the implications of the 5820K's lower lane count. It may render additional M2 slots unavailable compared to using the 5930K instead. I have a Rampage V Extreme with a 6850K. About a year ago the system stopped working properly, turned out the CPU's PCIe controller had become faulty (very cheap XEON 1620 v3 was perfect for testing). Bought a replacement 6850K from CEX for a low price, now it's up and running again. So, if you're in the UK, do check CEX before just hunting ebay, as the prices can be very good (though of course it varies).
can't wait to see the 5800x3d vs the 5960x as i own an 5960x currently on my lian li t60 test bench i use for testing gpus and other components , currently using a vega 56 on it that i snatched for 89 dollars - very excellent card foir the price
Hello ! Great test, it shows that the old powerhouse is still a bit relevant ! I just wonder how it can be compared to the same rezé on 5 3600, but with overclocking on the amd processor 😊
Interesting results. And with that video card as well. So with a more mainstream video card, the results would be much closer, at least that is my guess. Thanks for this video
Yes and no actually. Latency scales as well. But yeah, my 1620v3 on stock 2133 CL15(!) on quad goes close to 40 GT/S, which is nice to have for modern OS
These old videos are always great to see. Could we get one from a GPU segment starting with Kepler? It'd be interesting to see a 660/670/680 and so on.
I am very curious about the underdog Xeons like the 2666v3 OEM chip with 10c20t at a similar price point to the 5820k. I also see some diminishing performance returns when pushing the Haswell architecture too far on the OC. Basically I am wondering, will 10core 20thread @3.5Ghz in modern games outscale the 6c12t @4.0-4.2Ghz on the 5820k.
Ah of course. I was probably mixing up the 2666v3 with the 2640v3... Which is embarrassing because I OWN a pair of them. Here I will correct that for you.
@@kenobi639 of course, that would depend on the application. Some modern games can leverage 8+ cores. There are also plenty of engines still running on 2 and 4 core optimization.
I love videos like this. 2014 is about the time I got back into PC gaming, and it's amazing to see how the 5820K aged. I'd like to see it against a newer value model 6 core from Intel like a 10400 (because I have one in my HTPC and it's amazing) or an 11/12th gen. Maybe throw in a 5600X too.
Wow, what a surprise! I was used to the old style of janky and hyper energetic videos that this one felt soothing. Nonetheless, it's nice to see how old PC hardware can still compete with modern one as long as as we know how to properly maintain and tune it. BTW, any plans to revive the good ol' Dunicron build to celebrate the new Transformers movie release? Best regards 👍
still good. got 5820k with 4070ti, runs everything 4k ultra 60fps, enough for me. Hope it will work well with w11 when I will have no other choice than upgrade to w11
I'm still rocking this cpu overclocked @ 4.4ghz for the past 10+ years, with a 3080 playing mostly in 3440x1440, and I still felt like I haven't had a reason to upgrade it.
About power differences, yes that is indeed maybe one of the biggest factor between these technologies. But when we factor the average daily usage at full power X monthly usage, the savings may not be that relevant. Maybe 2-4kwh day between them. 100$ difference pays a lot of "PC time" electricity. Unless you are offgrid, where you may be limited by your energy storage availability/run time, but even there, you can always try to find sweetspots of cpu/gpu power usage and needed performance, something you don't even need to reboot to change (i use power plans when i'm in battery mode and limit cpu to 80% or less and driver-limit FPS to 60).
My 5820K is still kicking with 128GB DDR4. Built this back in 2016 for music production. Just recently started seeing some slow down but I just can’t let it go even with a new 13700K build sitting in the room.
Found an asus x99 pro MB with a 5820k here locally for 120$, think i'm gonna pull the trigger...after trying to get him down a little bit more if I can of course. Love your videos!
Appreciate the X99 content. Still rocking E5 1660v3 myself. There simply isn't a reasonable upgrade yet. X299 really didn't work out all that well due to lackluster single thread improvements and everything past that is simply crazy overpriced. No Intel and AMD, 2 grand for just a motherboard and CPU isn't reasonable.
If you don't need 40 PCIe lanes and >128GB RAM, the 5950x is an amazing performer for the dollar if you're mainly looking for threads. At almost 2x single thread performance and 3x multi-thread, it feels like a good value at under $500. Obviously if you need more than 20 lanes, this may be useless. But remember, the CPU link to the X570 chipset is gen4 x 4, rather than gen2 x 4. That could make up for it depending on your usage.
@Tane 1680 and 1660 are the same. There might be a minor change in silicon quality, otherwise the 1680 just has a couple hundred mhz higher stock clocks. They're both unlocked and will both run reasonable clocks. I have mine at 4.2ghz with 1.275 vcore and 1.8 vccin
@@andrewt9204 40 CPU lanes and quad channel memory or bust. And I agree, the 5950x or 12 golden cove cores in a ring bus would be a perfect upgrade from my current CPU performance wise. I'd like 50% more cores and 50% more single thread performance. I'd consider 5900x, but I don't want a 6 core CCD configuration. I feel that as games become more demanding and have to leave a 6 core CCD, the 900 and 600 chips will fall behind rather significantly. If AMD would just make Threadripper desktop that is functionally 2x Ryzen desktop without being priced for professionals instead of enthusiasts then I'd be set. Also the memory channels are about speed too, not just capacity. I'd be perfectly fine with the platform being 1DPC for HEDT to have the same potential capacity as consumer desktop.
Im still rocking my 5820k with Asus Strix GTX 970's in SLI. Love my PC but sadly after 10 yrs its time to get something new. BTW thank you so much for this review because its like being a proud father at how far your child has succeed.
Great vid! Love seeing this content. I have a Asus x99-m ws board still in uses as a test bench for buying used vid cards. When it was my main rig I had a 5820k@ 4.6ghz with 16GB of 3200 mem. Great system. Looks like it could still hold it own in some titles.
As someone who ran an i7-5820K from 2016 to 2022, with a pair of 980Ti's - it was a solid chip with 64GB of 8x8GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-2400, I was running it at a solid 4.2GHz under multi-radiator (2x 360mm + 240mm) custom watercooling loop (with EKWB's TitanX blocks and backplates on the 980Ti's) to keep it cool in Riverina summertime. After migrating to my current system (R9-5900X, 2x32GB T-Group DDR4-3600, RX 6900XT) back in mid-2022, I've been considering rebuilding my i7-5820K systems (one I built, one hand-me-down from my dad) for NAS and media transcoding usage.
Thank you for this, the 5820k indeed was hell of a processor back then mine will quite happily sit at 4.5ghz all day. I was toying with getting a 7900xtx with the intention of future upgrades down the line, so this is good to know 👍 Actually might have a look at the 6950x for the interim.
I was waiting for this for a while, thanks! I picked up my x99 ws locally for only $50 paired with a $50 1680 v3 (5960x equivalent). It can clock high to 4.5ghz and the performance is solid. However, I did recently switch to a bclk b660 board and i3 12100f. At $200 its double the x99 setup but the single core perf is so strong it matches the 5960x multicore perf. X99 will always be cool so I'm not gonna sell the board but while it's still relevant I still think the newer stuff is worth saving up for
I’ve had my 5820k for almost a decade now. And finally, something in my computer gave. I just upgraded to a 5700x. Honestly the performance I was getting from the old 5820 with my gtx 1080 (still going strong and won’t get upgraded any time soon) was more than satisfactory for me. Which is why I didn’t really see a need to go with more than a budget option now.
Have to admit I am currently still on my 5820k now as I type. About to upgrade soon, had no issues since 2015 and still works really well. Was well spent money.
Wouldn't be nice this cpu comparison with RX 7600 and RTX 4060 in the mix, could be very interesting, 1080p 1440p and 4K low/med/high when needed (or FSR/DLSS 2)?
Had a 5930k with an Asus x99 deluxe till around this Christmas, I would have to power cycle it about 50 times for it to boot. Probably the motherboard as I had already rma'd it twice. There was just so little reason to upgrade. Ended up getting a 13600k, but if it was still working, I'd still be using it.
Going from 3rd gen i5, to the 5820K was such a massive computing boost when it came out. Video encode speeds were nearly cut in half, it was amazing. I ran mine at 4.2GHz in order to be stable and keep the power draw low enough for a Hyper 212 to cool it. I ran my RAM at the stock 2133MHz. Faster stable RAM was pretty expensive at that time. I then upgraded to the 3700x on launch day and it wiped the 5820k at half the power. Even though the 3700x had 4 less direct PCIe lanes, that was more than made up for by the X570 chipset using a gen4 x 4 link to the CPU rather than gen2 x 4 on X99.
Am I understanding correctly that you are running an extremely overclocked CPU against a normal clock CPU? What wattage are you pulling? 220 watts on the i7 CPU vs 65 watts on either of the Ryzens?
Thanks for watching this one, you guys loved it by the feedback, and tomorrow we have the flagship 8 core going against the almighty Ryzen 5800X3D. Though I will reiterate I didn't have as much time to tune the intel CPUs as I would have liked, so the 4.4GHz on air is just a stock bang up, and tomorrows overclock on the 8 core i7-5960x is really not that impressive at all (well it might be ok cause we are on a budget air cooler?)
Also we are in Taiwan too for Computex, hope to see you guys there! or at least in chat!
love this kind of content. i can see this used stuff becoming very relevant again given the disappointing offerings. loved your content back in the golden era of used pc gaming.
I've always loved these old Intel processors, especially Xeons, but it seems to me that in addition to the newer cheap CPUs from AMD and Intel, they unfortunately have nothing more to look for. Because of videos like this, I've been following you for years and I can't wait for your next installment on this topic. Proud owner of i7 3770K, which I replaced the existing problematic Gigabyte MB with MSI's yesterday and which I have been using for almost 10 years without any difficulties even today. Many greetings from Serbia! ;-)
Yes! Still have my 5960x! Its still a Beast! Mine is stable et 4.6ghz and in gaming it's better than the Ryzen 7 3700x I built for work a while back!
What ever you come up with for this particular comparison would be amazing Bryan! These are the excact 2 CPUs my friend and I need to compare! Your hard work is always much appreciated!
The i7-5960x seems to react to decent overclock significantly compared to stock so far!
Good old X99 still hanging in there. At least in Australia, if you have a 6KW solar on your roof, well you have to use the electricity for something 🙂
Nice to see you here man, love your channel.
@@PadPoet Indeed! :)
use it for cryptomining?
@@wigunad1637 🤢
Windows 3.11 king 😂❤❤❤❤❤
You are literally the only tech-tuber I can count on for videos like this. I actually thought of this video idea last month and thought of you. Thanks for picking that up from the air waves, mate.
@Miyconst
@Tane RandomGaminginHD does a ton with older hardware, but less head to head comparisons.
His bothered to test older CPU's thats why and he knows what "Durries" mean.
Iceberg Tech has been working a series involving a lot of these older HEDT CPUs (and some relatively obscure gems like the i7 5775C)
Checkout "jagat review" too
The 5820k is a TANK. I'm really surprised by how well it holds up. Seems like it's probably in the ballpark of my 3600 for gaming.
It definitely hangs with first and 2nd gen Ryzen especially when overclocked. I ran an x79 system into the dirt and ended up skipping x99. Turns out that x99 was probably Intel's last terrific HEDT platform for the masses. x299 was terrible and so far nothing new from them which kind of makes sense since 12th and 13th gen are pretty strong. PCIE lanes are an issue though for power users still.
Seems I actually should've went for x99, I'd very much like the extra PCIe lanes lol
its hold up, because back in the days you could overclock 1ghz without any problems!
if this cpu were Stock, it wont charge any other modern 6 core°!
@@TheJamesKFIntel's Sapphire Rapids/W790 HEDT platform launched earlier this year, but motherboard prices are not really as affordable as X99 was, back in the day - yet!
@@ArtisChroniclesyup, I chose 5820K/X99/quad DDR4 over 4790K/Z97/dual DDR3. After a rebate from Intel, the prices weren't very different for the board+CPU (DDR4 was more expensive than DDR3, though). No regrets.
Still rocking a 5960x on an Asus X99 Ws mATX mobo....32 gb Corsair Vengence and Asus Tuff RTX 3070. Been going strong for almost 8 yrs! Hard to believe it was released a Decade ago..Holla Back 2014
Honestly you still have plenty of CPU for years to come
Bruhhh im still on 3930k :))) from 2012 still goes strong 4.2 on all cores
I think u might be bottleneck your gpu
Im still pebbling a E5-1660 V2!
Right on Brother love that its still rolling in 2023!
That 9 year old CPU is holding its own quite well.
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@@jcsoriap thats a gpu bottleneck in 4k.
pair it with a 1080ti and you will be set for a long while. or potentially a 2060/3060 12gb or a good deal on a 2080ti.
how big is the r5 7600x make?
Yeah but at more than double the TDP
Damn that 5820K is damn impressive. I used to have CPU once before I upgraded to my present 9900K. Now seeing this review, I wished I still kept it on a secondary PC.
thanks for the video!
I'm still running i7-5820K OC'ed at 4.3GHz (all cores, fully stable, no BIOS tweaking of power delivery) with quad-channel 32GB 2666MHz RAM on ASUS X99-S motherboard, paired with ASUS GTX 1080 Ti,
and what's also cool is the (bootable) M.2 PCIe 3.0 port, back in the day almost nobody knew what's it for, and nowadays with NVME SSD prices dropping, it brings yet more life to this platform
Note that this $370 9 year old cpu still plays games totally fine. Back in 2014 quad core i7's were considered as overkill for games and "i5 is all you need" phrase was still very popular. If you add something like 4690k to this test suite, even budget 5820k would absolutely demolish it.
The main take away from this is dont blindly follow mainstream media recommendations, look at your needs and expectations, study your available choices and act accordingly. Whoever ignored common consensus and bought this 5820k over slightly higher clocked 4790k, won big time.
Would love to see an update to this comparison with the LAST last (fr this time) DDR 4 6 core: the 5600X3D. The separation in the charts would be phenomenal.
Still running this processor, but with 3200 DDR4 quad channel and an EVGA board. Its an absolute legend and still keeps up in modern games. I'll finally have to upgrade due to tpm requirements for Windows 11 next year. Will be sad to see it go. Had to check in, thanks for honoring this GOAT.
Bro, you're awesome... This is something I love about TYC, being down to Earth and paying visits to past components to compare them to current ones... I remember other channels calling a 7th gen obsolete or very old.... I have personally been rocking an X58 system until last year, when I completely moved to team red...
Your videos are always awesome; keep it up :)
With different memory subsystems (dual vs quad) and speeds a couple of shots from AIDA64 memory bandwidth/latency screen would have been greatly appreciated. And to showcase (lack of) memory difference then adding Spiderman: remastered to benchmark suite might be a good idea because it is usually sensitive to memory setup and is a CPU intensive game.
Also in a CPU-bound scenarios 4090 might not be the best choice to get best performance (see Iceberg Tech's recent video on Nvidia's driver overhead).
I gotta say, I did *not* expect that old 5th gen intel to hold up that well to something so many generations newer.
TBH it makes me feel a little better about still being on my 8c/8t 9700k, which I was otherwise feeling like I "have" to upgrade soon... well, not *have* to , but you know that tech upgrade itch goes. 😅
Thanks for making content like this. There aren't enough channels covering this kind of thing, as opposed to just reviews/benchmarks of the newest releases.
stock amd vs OCed intel more power.
It's actually 4th Gen (haswell) it's not 5th Gen (Broadwell) based. Also the cpu was OC to 4.4ghz which is about where they went without needing really beefy cooling and a whole lot of power. Haswell architecture was only good upto that clockspeed really.
I think people also forget that Zen3 came out literally 3 years ago now... So the 5600x utterly destroyed the 5820k for $300 (launch msrp) 6 years later. The Zen2 chips like the 3900x also handily beat it in 2018 but not for less money which is still impressive.
Honestly anyone who got a 5820k at launch really got their money's worth in a way that we may never see again.
Funny thing is I am still running a 6900k/x99 based build - still holds it's own, now in some areas I can see it's an aging platform. But I can say it's hard for me to move to something more mainstream with the 40 on-board PCIe lanes compared to consumer mainstream options (The lanes come in handy when running Raid cards and network additions).
That's what still bothers me about the newer stuff. You just don't get anywhere near the amount of PCIe lanes that I'd like. Feels like a regression in that area, especially where nvme slots are concerned. I just don't understand the thought process behind it.
@@ArtisChronicles threadripper exist.
@@coffee7180 Do they though? The non-pro version? At least in the country I live it seems to me that the Zen 2 Epyc is more available.
@@ArtisChronicles Fewer lanes saves money. They are not making server class MBs for the kiddie overclockers.
What GPU do you have?
Man this is a video topic I NEVER would have thought of. Great video and topic I hope this one goes viral.
Still running a 5820K, MSI x99 Sli with 2 gtx 970s... 9 years later!
Damn... i was unnececery replaced my 980 ti for used 3000 series card.
This CPU can handle 3060/4060ti at 95% GPU utilization.
SLI becomes unused technology in year or two after last SLI-comp G-Card release.
Think about upgrade ;)
i have a bit of a soft spot for former flagship products and it's always nice to see when one holds up even years later
Yes i still use motherboardbasus x99 a + i7 5930k + stok cooling intel thermal solution ts13 delta and sapphire nitro rx580 is still awesome till know. Tech yes city great video as always. cheers
Wow how does it holds up so well.
Whoever had this cpu got its moneys worth
Monolithic die, heaps of cache, quad channel memory, full implementation of AVX instructions, and an unlocked multiplier all combine to explain how.
The power draw on the 5820k is a deal breaker for me in 2023. Very cool to see the comparison though, what an absolute unit. Thanks Brian
Yeah I have had to undervolt and underclock my 5960x setup as it's saving my around 100w of draw having to run it 7 hours a day.
Still rocking my 5820k which was part of my dream build ages ago. Had to tone down my overclock to 4.3 in the past couple of years but it's been a great chip. Thanks for the comparison.
What forced you to stop overclock it?
@@Physics072 The odd bootup overclock failed message. Not a big deal tbh just don't have the desire to mess with it as much anymore. Been a great chip for years.
@@Hoop27might have been degredation, and needed a little more voltage to keep stable
@@SkylineFinesse Most likely however I have reached that age where I think to myself 'You grew up playing Intellivison is 4 more FPS really that big of a deal?' 🤣
I've always loved these old Intel processors, especially Xeons, but it seems to me that in addition to the newer cheap CPUs from AMD and Intel, they unfortunately have nothing more to look for. Because of videos like this, I've been following you for years and I can't wait for your next installment on this topic. Proud owner of i7 3770K, which I replaced the existing problematic Gigabyte MB with MSI's yesterday and which I have been using for almost 10 years without any difficulties even today. Many greetings from Serbia! ;-)
Awsome, love these videos comparing the old with the new. I have a 5960x so looking forward to tomorrow's video. Thanks Bryan.
good vid, i'd like to see more of these old intel chips vs older ryzen chips plz
tysm for adding the R5 4500; not surprised at all to see Haswell chip pull some wins!
The X99 platform have always been of my favorite, It provides a lot of performance for it’s aged still. Great Video. Thank You.
just ordered a 5820k for 28 euros, and im so excited :D. actually more excited than i was when i ordered my brand new Zen3 setup back then.
last week i scored a deal on an (once) epic workstation for 230 euros:
- 1080 ti founders edition
- xeon 2630v4 10c/20t - max all core boost 2,4GHz (hence the 5820k as replacement)
- Asus x99-a ii
- 32 GB 2133 DDR4
- BeQuiet Dark Power Pro 11 850w platinum
- Bequiet Dark Base 900 (man what a monstrosity)
wow those who bought 5820k originally made a really good investment. It's still very usable in 2023
Had a 5820K. Was such a monster at the time. Got it from Microcenter for $349 if I remember correctly.
Good to see a vid on used stuff again. Been a while.
wont forget 2014 or 2015 I built my pc with this i7 and a 980ti I felt invincible
People talking about how "well the 5820k aged" and how its still a "tank" I think this is more a testament to how it took almost a decade for intel to even remotely innovate
Used to have a 5820k. Great cpu and great overclocker too. At the time the 6700k (I believe) was the direct competitor to it but the 5820k being only slightly more expensive with motherboard and having more cores was the much better deal which is why I bought it originally :).
I think it took longer, i7-8700K was really the first 6-core competition from Intel with literally equal performance
This was a great video. I always enjoy how your content shows what people can get out of older hardware. Meanwhile my main game these days is Star Citizen and it makes my 8750H cry and was the only reason I upgraded my 6700k when I did to a 12700k lol
I was planning on upgrading from the I7-5820K but it seems like I can squeeze a couple of more years out of it.
Looking forward for that old 8 cores vs newer 8 cores comparison Bryan. 👍
Yes xeon e5 1660 v3 versus ryzen 5600x.
I just upgraded a customer of mine for under $300 USD with an upgraded platform from AM3+ to AM4. He is getting a Ryzen 5 5500, an Asus A520M, 32GB of Corsair 3200 DDR4, and a 1TB Silicon Power A60. The price drops and Memorial Day sales are insane. The total was $312.56 (Tax) shipped overnight for free. I'm building the system and installing windows, backing up his files etc...for $60 roughly.
I have this cpu with a Gigabyte x99 gaming 5 mb a 32Gb quad channel memory kit @2666mhz cl12, the cpu is clocked @4.2 ghz.
I recently upgraded to an rtx4070ti super and i was very surprised 😊 this decade old cpu now is still able to catch up with an rtx 4070ti super even in cpu intensive games titles such as the last of us part 1, with an average fps of 90 @ 4k max settings dlss quality without frame generation ❤
Great build 👍🙂
I still run a 5820k on an Asus x99 pro with a m2 nvme and it's still solid for games. 5820k was a very under-rated hidden gem.
Mate I'm learning so much about PCs because of you. Thank you so much.
Man, now this is a hit home video. I bought my 5820k when it first came out. Still running to this day and I just don't have a reason to upgrade yet. Just upped my ram to 64gb, ssds, and a 1080ti and I can do just about anything and I game at 4K!
Playing WoW classic doesn't mean "gaming" at 4k. I had a 1080 Ti, it WAS an awesome card for years but it's outdated. I could list games you aren't playing at 4k, or even 1440p high detail at 60 FPS but there is no need to make paragraphs. again 1080 Ti WAS a great value but I'm so sick of hearing people say it's still a relevant card, it really isn't for any high end graphics game. If older games are your jam (which I still play, I just did a 10th playthrough of Fallout NV 100 mods), then ok. A Ford Model T will still get you around a city with a 30mph speed limit just fine but you aren't cruising the freeways with it.
@@Cruor34? Ummm, okay, I'm not sure where you were going with this or trying to disprove. I play at 4K medium/high or I adjust things. Most uneducated gamers just think slap a setting on ultra means the best. When you game at 4K there's a alot of settings you can turn down or off due to the resolution. This has been debunked long ago. And just for kicks, I play the dead space remake at 4K so 🤷
@@Cruor34 The 1080ti performs around the 2080-level and has more vram. Yes, it lacks RTX-features, DLSS and so on, but saying that it can play games in 4K is so wrong on so many levels. You don´t need the graphics set to ultra in order to play games at 4K and you don´t need 144 fps to enjoy single player games, do you? Yes, the more fps the merrier, but come on, get off your high horse.
I currenly use a 2070 @ 1440p and play Forza Horizon 5, WW3, Ready or Not and BF2042, and have zero issues doing so. The 2070 is certainly not as fast as a 1080ti.
Why is it that you felt the need to bash on a guys comment about using a 1080ti? Did your 1080ti hurt you or something?
@@Cruor34 what are you on about let the dude enjoy his own things, not everything needs to be the absolute ultra preset to enjoy a game, if it runs well on medium who the fuck cares, a 1080ti can still run a majority of games now so leave the dude in peace.
I game at 4k on a GTX 1080. Currently watching my daughter play apex legends at over 100fps and I've gotten many comments from her about how clear and beautiful it is compared to her setup. You can game at 4k on several generation old hardware. I can't barely see the difference in med and ultra on any game I play so that takes the 1080 up above a 1080 ti just because I understand that resolution is vastly more important than graphical settings. Keep 4k gaming on mid range hardware. Just don't expect Hogwarts or cyberpunk to break 40fps.. still playable.
Older intel cpus still great..but I really like the AMD 65 w cpu TDP
Pretty nice longevity…6year old b450 tomahawk…I put 1700,2700,3700x cpu in this board…running great 3700x and 2080ti..to this day
My B450 Tomahawk only lasted for an absurdly short time. I just got it on January 3, 2020 to unexpectedly find it off in the other room one day in summer, 2022! Looks like MOSFET failure. Symptoms: Found it off and it won't turn on again. Not even lit LEDs! The CPU I had on it at the time, was the Ryzen 7 3700X. (still works)
You just continued a bad choice with more bad choices
@@tilapiadave3234 your parents made bad choice🤣
@@srinathshettigar379 Your parents sadly brother and sister
@@tilapiadave3234 typical intelNvidiot copycat🤣🤣🤣
In the UK, CEX sells the 5820K for just 11 UKP + shipping, very cheap (better than ebay). Tricky part is finding a decent mbd.
One down side of the 5820K is its more limited PCIe lane provision (only 28 lanes, vs. 40 lanes for the 5930K), which means on typical mbds one must bare in mind tradeoffs of which ports/slots are available at what speeds/widths, but that probably doesn't matter for most use cases, though if one did want the full lane count then the 5930K is only 20 UKP from CEX.
9:15 - That's where one has to take note of the implications of the 5820K's lower lane count. It may render additional M2 slots unavailable compared to using the 5930K instead.
I have a Rampage V Extreme with a 6850K. About a year ago the system stopped working properly, turned out the CPU's PCIe controller had become faulty (very cheap XEON 1620 v3 was perfect for testing). Bought a replacement 6850K from CEX for a low price, now it's up and running again.
So, if you're in the UK, do check CEX before just hunting ebay, as the prices can be very good (though of course it varies).
can't wait to see the 5800x3d vs the 5960x as i own an 5960x currently on my lian li t60 test bench i use for testing gpus and other components , currently using a vega 56 on it that i snatched for 89 dollars - very excellent card foir the price
i'm still using this cpu build today for everything. its holding up very good.
⚠NOTE: The i7-5820k only has 28 CPU lanes vs 40 lanes with the i7-5930k & i7-5960x.
You mean pci-e lanes
@@Jimster481 Yes.
It`s more than enough if u using 1x G-Card + 1...2 SSD/NVMe.
I had all eight slots full on my x99 with 5820k 32gb ram
At 2400 mhz. It had 65gb bandwidth way back in 2015 when purchased.
I love my 5930k, thanks for making this video. It's amazing to see how capable this processor still is.
Hello ! Great test, it shows that the old powerhouse is still a bit relevant !
I just wonder how it can be compared to the same rezé on 5 3600, but with overclocking on the amd processor 😊
very interresting, also good that you used the 0.1% lows, not many use them.
Can you do i7 5775C vs Ryzen 4100 ? or newer 4c8t cpus
Interesting results. And with that video card as well. So with a more mainstream video card, the results would be much closer, at least that is my guess. Thanks for this video
I would expect to run the 5820k in quad channel mode. This would allow it to match the speeds of faster ddr4 while also having low timings.
Yes and no actually. Latency scales as well. But yeah, my 1620v3 on stock 2133 CL15(!) on quad goes close to 40 GT/S, which is nice to have for modern OS
These old videos are always great to see. Could we get one from a GPU segment starting with Kepler? It'd be interesting to see a 660/670/680 and so on.
I am very curious about the underdog Xeons like the 2666v3 OEM chip with 10c20t at a similar price point to the 5820k. I also see some diminishing performance returns when pushing the Haswell architecture too far on the OC. Basically I am wondering, will 10core 20thread @3.5Ghz in modern games outscale the 6c12t @4.0-4.2Ghz on the 5820k.
correction, 2666v3 is 10c/20t
Ah of course. I was probably mixing up the 2666v3 with the 2640v3... Which is embarrassing because I OWN a pair of them. Here I will correct that for you.
No because the higher clock speeds will be the deciding factor rather than the overall core count
@@kenobi639 of course, that would depend on the application. Some modern games can leverage 8+ cores. There are also plenty of engines still running on 2 and 4 core optimization.
Very interesting test to perform!
I love videos like this. 2014 is about the time I got back into PC gaming, and it's amazing to see how the 5820K aged. I'd like to see it against a newer value model 6 core from Intel like a 10400 (because I have one in my HTPC and it's amazing) or an 11/12th gen. Maybe throw in a 5600X too.
I still have the 5820K + mb + ram here, gonna set it up one day with windows 7
Wow, what a surprise! I was used to the old style of janky and hyper energetic videos that this one felt soothing. Nonetheless, it's nice to see how old PC hardware can still compete with modern one as long as as we know how to properly maintain and tune it. BTW, any plans to revive the good ol' Dunicron build to celebrate the new Transformers movie release? Best regards 👍
time to rename this since there is a new DDR4 6 core (5600x3d)
Picked up a 5820k and x99a godlike board in a full watercooled system for 150 bucks aud couple days ago. Very happy everything works
still good. got 5820k with 4070ti, runs everything 4k ultra 60fps, enough for me. Hope it will work well with w11 when I will have no other choice than upgrade to w11
Occed to 4Ghz (reasonably) with 64Gb ram 👌
Wow so great you still have 5820K and pair it with 4070Ti ❤ 🙂 👍 I only got RTX 3070 and planning to get E5 1660V3 or maybe i7 5820K like yours 🙂
I'm still rocking this cpu overclocked @ 4.4ghz for the past 10+ years, with a 3080 playing mostly in 3440x1440, and I still felt like I haven't had a reason to upgrade it.
About power differences, yes that is indeed maybe one of the biggest factor between these technologies.
But when we factor the average daily usage at full power X monthly usage, the savings may not be that relevant. Maybe 2-4kwh day between them. 100$ difference pays a lot of "PC time" electricity.
Unless you are offgrid, where you may be limited by your energy storage availability/run time, but even there, you can always try to find sweetspots of cpu/gpu power usage and needed performance, something you don't even need to reboot to change (i use power plans when i'm in battery mode and limit cpu to 80% or less and driver-limit FPS to 60).
My 5820K is still kicking with 128GB DDR4. Built this back in 2016 for music production. Just recently started seeing some slow down but I just can’t let it go even with a new 13700K build sitting in the room.
How did you manage to handle 128GB if official specs says i75820K supports at most 64GB of RAM?
Found an asus x99 pro MB with a 5820k here locally for 120$, think i'm gonna pull the trigger...after trying to get him down a little bit more if I can of course. Love your videos!
I think the Asus x99 boards have the OC socket that lets you overclock the cache which really helps with 1% lows!
Appreciate the X99 content. Still rocking E5 1660v3 myself. There simply isn't a reasonable upgrade yet. X299 really didn't work out all that well due to lackluster single thread improvements and everything past that is simply crazy overpriced. No Intel and AMD, 2 grand for just a motherboard and CPU isn't reasonable.
Holy cow this is closer than I thought it'd be. I was fully expecting 50% improvements across the board in cpu bound scenarios.
If you don't need 40 PCIe lanes and >128GB RAM, the 5950x is an amazing performer for the dollar if you're mainly looking for threads. At almost 2x single thread performance and 3x multi-thread, it feels like a good value at under $500. Obviously if you need more than 20 lanes, this may be useless. But remember, the CPU link to the X570 chipset is gen4 x 4, rather than gen2 x 4. That could make up for it depending on your usage.
@Tane 1680 and 1660 are the same. There might be a minor change in silicon quality, otherwise the 1680 just has a couple hundred mhz higher stock clocks. They're both unlocked and will both run reasonable clocks. I have mine at 4.2ghz with 1.275 vcore and 1.8 vccin
@@andrewt9204 40 CPU lanes and quad channel memory or bust. And I agree, the 5950x or 12 golden cove cores in a ring bus would be a perfect upgrade from my current CPU performance wise. I'd like 50% more cores and 50% more single thread performance. I'd consider 5900x, but I don't want a 6 core CCD configuration. I feel that as games become more demanding and have to leave a 6 core CCD, the 900 and 600 chips will fall behind rather significantly. If AMD would just make Threadripper desktop that is functionally 2x Ryzen desktop without being priced for professionals instead of enthusiasts then I'd be set. Also the memory channels are about speed too, not just capacity. I'd be perfectly fine with the platform being 1DPC for HEDT to have the same potential capacity as consumer desktop.
I have the E5 1660 V2 W 4770 32 gigs quad. No compelling reason to upgrade.
Great video!
Amazing performance for such an old cpu. Thank you for this content.
Im still rocking my 5820k with Asus Strix GTX 970's in SLI.
Love my PC but sadly after 10 yrs its time to get something new.
BTW thank you so much for this review because its like being a proud father at how far your child has succeed.
Great vid! Love seeing this content. I have a Asus x99-m ws board still in uses as a test bench for buying used vid cards. When it was my main rig I had a 5820k@ 4.6ghz with 16GB of 3200 mem. Great system. Looks like it could still hold it own in some titles.
This is an excellent video and I always wanted to see this type of comparison. You have the Tech and Yes City! 😮 I mean Tech Yeah! Thanks!
Cool video, never thought a CPU this old was still viable
This info hugely relevant now we are going into a CPU stagnation era, 4-6 core CPUs will be relevant for many years ahead..🎉
As someone who ran an i7-5820K from 2016 to 2022, with a pair of 980Ti's - it was a solid chip with 64GB of 8x8GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-2400, I was running it at a solid 4.2GHz under multi-radiator (2x 360mm + 240mm) custom watercooling loop (with EKWB's TitanX blocks and backplates on the 980Ti's) to keep it cool in Riverina summertime.
After migrating to my current system (R9-5900X, 2x32GB T-Group DDR4-3600, RX 6900XT) back in mid-2022, I've been considering rebuilding my i7-5820K systems (one I built, one hand-me-down from my dad) for NAS and media transcoding usage.
I've heard that timings on the memory makes a big difference. Maybe I missed you mentioning it. What's your thoughts on that?
What about some of the newer DDR5 CPUs that are backwards compatible with DDR4 via select motherboards?
Building my first pc with this intel and gtx 1660 super. What motherboard you recommend?
Thank you for this, the 5820k indeed was hell of a processor back then mine will quite happily sit at 4.5ghz all day.
I was toying with getting a 7900xtx with the intention of future upgrades down the line, so this is good to know 👍
Actually might have a look at the 6950x for the interim.
I have just now replaced the 5820k and 1080ti with the 13600k and 4090. X99 and the 5820k were truly impressive and powerful platforms.
I want to do a 5820k novelty build some day. Still an amazing CPU / platorm.
I was waiting for this for a while, thanks! I picked up my x99 ws locally for only $50 paired with a $50 1680 v3 (5960x equivalent). It can clock high to 4.5ghz and the performance is solid. However, I did recently switch to a bclk b660 board and i3 12100f. At $200 its double the x99 setup but the single core perf is so strong it matches the 5960x multicore perf. X99 will always be cool so I'm not gonna sell the board but while it's still relevant I still think the newer stuff is worth saving up for
Just paired a Ryzen 5 4500 with a vega 64 for my friends new pc build, do you think this is a good pairing?
This is grass roots tech yes city I miss this stuff❤
I just upgraded from a 5820k to a 7800x3d about 2 weeks ago. I had the 5820k for 8 years!
The description talks about the 8c/16t CPUs, not these 6c/12t. Im guessing you're also going to test the 8 cores in another video.
What about Devil's canyon i7-4790K, how does it compare to this 5th gen cpu?
Great video, I have an i7 5820k + 32gb 3200mhz + rtx3060ti and an asus rampage xtreme V x99 motherboard, will I need to change the kit anytime soon?
How are you running 3200mhz on 5820k? I can only run 2133mhz, when I installed 3600mhz ram, it never could boot…
Thank You! This video saving me money!
Thanks a lot for this benchmark. Gracias
I’ve had my 5820k for almost a decade now. And finally, something in my computer gave. I just upgraded to a 5700x. Honestly the performance I was getting from the old 5820 with my gtx 1080 (still going strong and won’t get upgraded any time soon) was more than satisfactory for me. Which is why I didn’t really see a need to go with more than a budget option now.
Have to admit I am currently still on my 5820k now as I type. About to upgrade soon, had no issues since 2015 and still works really well. Was well spent money.
Get the 5960x and drop that in! It won't even bottleneck a 6950xt
Wouldn't be nice this cpu comparison with RX 7600 and RTX 4060 in the mix, could be very interesting, 1080p 1440p and 4K low/med/high when needed (or FSR/DLSS 2)?
if you run the cpu at 4.4ghz does it end up using more power in idle than stock or does it use the same?
Had a 5930k with an Asus x99 deluxe till around this Christmas, I would have to power cycle it about 50 times for it to boot. Probably the motherboard as I had already rma'd it twice. There was just so little reason to upgrade. Ended up getting a 13600k, but if it was still working, I'd still be using it.
Going from 3rd gen i5, to the 5820K was such a massive computing boost when it came out. Video encode speeds were nearly cut in half, it was amazing. I ran mine at 4.2GHz in order to be stable and keep the power draw low enough for a Hyper 212 to cool it. I ran my RAM at the stock 2133MHz. Faster stable RAM was pretty expensive at that time.
I then upgraded to the 3700x on launch day and it wiped the 5820k at half the power.
Even though the 3700x had 4 less direct PCIe lanes, that was more than made up for by the X570 chipset using a gen4 x 4 link to the CPU rather than gen2 x 4 on X99.
X99 is PCIe gen 3
How did you manage to forget about the it 12600 (non k)?
The top end CPU for the x99 series boards is a 22 core CPU. It would be interesting to see that as well as how that works currently.
Am I understanding correctly that you are running an extremely overclocked CPU against a normal clock CPU? What wattage are you pulling? 220 watts on the i7 CPU vs 65 watts on either of the Ryzens?