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DMC-250-111 Machifit Toolpost Review & My Myford ML7 Fixture Test
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- Опубліковано 27 кві 2020
- See the new Machifit AXA DMC-250-111 Aloris gib type toolpost. Shown in use on my Myford ML7 dedicated toolpost fixture.
SEE LINK BELOW:-
Machifit AXA Size DMC-250-111 Wedge Type Tool Post -- bit.ly/2lO5Kll
Quick Change Turning Facing Holder 250-101 -- bit.ly/2HmNqsO
Quick Change Turning Facing Boring Holder 250-102 -- bit.ly/2Hwh5iw
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Hi Steve,. I have that toolpost and just love it. I do find my toolholder stock is slowly growing as the more frequently used tools are so nice to have. It would be hard to go back now. Sure glad you are back now as I enjoy so much watching your videos. I always learn something and the time goes so quickly when your videos are on. Really looking forward to the next ones. Thanks so much.
Dale in Canada
Love watching you work on the Myford. I like how they look. Wouldn’t mind owning one, but pretty rare find in the states in my experience. Nice review, thanks for sharing.
-Joe
Thanks for the video Steve. Keep safe and stay well.
Thank you for sharing. I just bought one my self and it’s excellent.
Nice work Steve, I love these wedge toolposts
Thank you. I just learned more about QCTP's than all the knowledge I had before the video. (Still using a regular Chinese lathe tool post.)
nice to see does machine running again Steve,
Good to see you, Steve.
Stay safe Adam
Hi Steve. Thanks for your videos I have watched most of the Myford ones as I have a ML7R.I have just purchased the 250-101 gib tool post and 8 holders. I made a block like yours to mount on the cross slide, as the Compound is too high. and using 12mm tools. this works really well. Also made a nut and lever handle to replace the top nut which was 14x 1.5mm on my post
It make machining a lot more rigid. I am still keeping the Dixon will be good for smaller work.
Hi Thanks. That is great. I kept my Dixon set as well as I have two compound slides. Regards Steve
I have the 250-000 coming on Thursday for my Chinese mini-lathe, can't wait to upgrade from the standard toolpost.
that's my next major purchase, let me know how it goes and where from
My question in for the myford, thanks.
Hi Steve. I bought the same tool post. It all works great but, on mine the centre bolt is smaller on the old piston type for some reason! I’m not in the shed right now to measure the old one but the new one is 9/16 18tpi. No great problem but maybe worth mentioning. Thanks for the video👍
A correction. They are both 9/16 bolts but one is 18tpi and the other 20tpi. Not earth shattering news I know but, there it is😁
Hi Steve, I really like the way you explain and do the stuff that u do. Is this an extension of a working life in engineering?
Hi Thanks, yes I worked for 27 years in aerospace engineering. Regards Steve
SEE LINK BELOW:-
Machifit AXA Size DMC-250-111 Wedge Type Tool Post -- bit.ly/2lO5Kll
Quick Change Turning Facing Holder 250-101 -- bit.ly/2HmNqsO
Quick Change Turning Facing Boring Holder 250-102 -- bit.ly/2Hwh5iw
There are also 250-101-xl holders that will hold 5/8" or 15.8mm.
Yes they work well, I use them too.
Chhers for posting this Steve. I have the same 111 toolpost and am going to have a go at copying your mounting plate.
Can I check why you opted to bore the recess and turn down the original baseplate to fit? Wouldn't it have been easier to tap the hole in your mount to accept the post directly?
I was wondering this myself. I am making a similar rigid tool post for my Myford out of a block of cast iron and propose to just drill and tap a mounting hole.
Great Video Steve. Really helpful.
I spied a brake disc at the end of the Lathe..could you shed some light on this? or maybe a link to it previously?
Thanks. J.
Hi If you check out my video list it is titled Myford ML7 disc brake
If you can't find it I will put up link later. Regards Steve
Hi Steve, can you still rotate the tool post? It looked locked at the end of the video when you switched holders. Thanks for the videos, always happy to see you pop up in my subscriptions.
Yes - just undo the nut on top to rotate the toolpost. The lever is just for activating the wedge to fix the tool holder in place. A lot of people make a matching lever-nut to replace the central nut. Some other people modify a ring-spanner/box-wrench by removing the other end, and heating and bending the angle to match (this is what I've done)
Love the channel Steve. Do you have a recommendation (and purchase link) for a mini lathe 100mm 4 jaw self centering chuck upgrade? I currently have a Warco mini lathe with the 80mm chuck as standard.
Hi I think you can buy a conversion backplate from Arceurotrade to take a 100mm chuck. Regards Steve
I have the 250- 111 coming tomorrow Steve...
Hi David, I think you will be most impressed with it. It's the best toolpost I've used. Regards Steve
Hello Steve i have a myford ml 7 is it not better to take the 250- 001
I'm not a machinist by any stretch, and my knowledge is not the best, but I do play around with my Harbor Freight 8x12 bench top lathe.
I would like to upgrade my tool post to a quick change post like these but am unsure which one is needed as a direct swap out to the original.
I also want to install a larger chuck but I'm unsure exactly what I need to purchase to accomplish these changes, any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thank You.
Hi Steve, It is many moons ago since I owned a Myford 7 tri lever but I see your various mods and tool post set up have made great improvements to this Myford. I run a Harrison L6/12" swing lathe which I've had since 1991. Do you mind giving me an approx size of the Aloris type post, height and width,please.
Hi the height of the toolpost block is about 57mm and the width is about 60mm. The Harrison lathe is a nice one to have. Regards Steve
By the way, what is the thread for the tool locking handle of the 250-000? I got my QCTP without the handle and the thread is not M8. Imperial screws doesn't seem to fit either.
Hello Steve,
thank you for your great videos! Can you tell me, if the threadings of the tools (brass knob and fixing screws) are made in metric or in inch size? :-)
They are metric. Regards Steve
Thank you! :-)
Hi Steve, can you tell me what the thread is that is used on the tool holder post for the 250-111?
Hi Steve, I loved your video again! I have just one question about the fixture block, do you have dimensions of it and how have you fixed it to the slide. (don't see the underside of it) Thanks in beforehand!
I made my toolpost block 100mm long X 75mm wide X 20mm thick. It is secured to the cross slide with six 6mm bolts and T-nuts in the Myford ML7 T-slots. That is 3 bolts front and back. The toolpost bolt goes in from the underside of the block so that the flange head (previously turned from the square bolt supplied with the toolpost), fits in a bore up to its shoulder. Regards Steve.
@@SteveJordan Thanks Steve for the quick answer. Where can i find T-nuts?
Thanks in beforehand!
If you are in the UK you can buy them from Arceurotrade. ie (6mm for 8mm slot.) Sometimes they are on eBay but I did a search and couldn't see of that size at the moment. Regards Steve
@@SteveJordan Hi Steve I live in Belgium. I found where to buy the T-nuts. Thanks again for your help and very interesting video's. KEEP ON THE GOOD WORK!
I forgot to ask you about your cutting oil you used. I liked that it was thicker and seemed to hold better to the turning parts. Could you shed some light on the cutting oil your using and how you like it. Thanks
Dale in Canada
Hi I just use a thick engine oil. I found it just as good as any cutting oil. Regards Steve
Thanks so much for the reply. I will definitely be checking that out. I sure liked the way it seemed to be working. Can't wait for your next video. I always learn so much from them and how you can do so much in a very short time.
Dale in Canada
hi steve do you know if i can get the tool holders for the wedge type from bangood or elswhere i noticed they are not shipping to uk
Are the tool holders compatible with the 3 models?
Tool Post: 250-000
" " 250-100
" " 250-111
Thank you
you'll get it quicker if bought on Ebay or Amazon and better customer service than Banggood
Cheaper too
Hey Steve. Would the 250-111 tool post fit on the ML7’s compound?
Hi no it is too large. You need the smaller version. Regards Steve
Steve: Has the larger 250-111 toolpost reduced the maximum diameter you're able to turn on the lathe, vs the 250-000?
Hi no I don't think it has. It's about the same. Regards Steve
Good to see you back Steve. I've also got the wedge type toolpost, they are purportedly more rigid than the piston type. The 250-1XX toolholders (there are at least half a dozen types) will fit any of those compatible AXA sized toolposts. Aloris, Phase II, Bostar, etc.
Regarding fixed toolposts, Robin Renzetti also has a great video on this topic: ua-cam.com/video/pG3YSfgyJPI/v-deo.html
Back to the toolpost for a second - it hasn't ever been on the lathe and you've got brass knobs on it. Very good :)
I haven't done the fixed toolpost mod to mine yet, but your video might just provide enough inspiration to get the job done :)
I see you have fitted thhe 250-111 and the 250-000 to your ML 7, is there any advantage of one over the other?
Hi Carl. There are no real advantages other than one can take larger shank tools. I only use it because of the fixtures I made up to go on the toolpost. I tend to leave the smaller one on the ML7 now as my Chinese Mini lathe has the same toolpost and I made both the same center height. I can use the tools straight on both lathes without adjustment.
I only use the larger toolpost after using special fixtures I made up like the toolpost drill...It saves time not having to change back to the smaller one. Regards Steve
How
What is the depth of the base you made please?
Thanks
Mitch
I made mine 20mm thick. Regards Steve
Steve, do you think it's possible to run 16mm tooling on a ml7 with the oversized holder? Would it be worth it over 12mm?
It's not worth it as they do exactly the same. I use 10 or 12mm and they work fine. Regards Steve
Mmm Not sure about that swarf, should be broken up more than that with the chip-breaker on the tip you're using. Adjusting your speeds and feeds should help.
I find it easier to clean the lathe removing this type of swarf rather than chips. Although it is nicer to see the action of proper chip breaking on this type of tool. Regards Steve
@@SteveJordan glad to see you back posting. After the "aussie shed" channel comments and you stopped posting, I feared the worst. Hope to see you making more interesting mods to both your lathes soon. Love your dual oilers they look hard to make accuratly. You do so many things with such limited machines it's sometimes hard to believe. I have the 111 size toolpost on my holbrook c8, it works great like you say. Repeatability of centre height is absolutely fantastic, ease of use unbelievable and the fact it is rarely noticed during use is the sign of slick working parts.
Мне нравится, ваш канал. Частотный преобразователь себе такой взял, 2200 Вт. Можно перевод на русский. Буду очень рад!
Would it be possible for you to publish ML7 Thread Dial Indicator complete assembly drawings as no longer available. Many Thanks.
Hi I think I showed how to make it on another video but I do not have any dimensional drawings. I just made it up but by bit. Regards Steve
@@SteveJordan I'll have a root your videos and see if I can find it. They are very difficult to find if not next to impossible. I see you have one fitted to your lathe hence the reason for asking.
I've got an AXA 250-000 and toolholders 250-001, 250-002 that can take 1/2", 12 mm, tools. What's the difference between 250-000 and 250-111?
It's just a much bigger toolpost. It measures about 57mm high and about 60mm square.
Thanks Steve! Just measured my one, and yes, much bigger. I suppose the toolholders also use a wider dowe tail gap then my smaller ones..
Being a novice I still have things to learn, like what AXA stands for. Don't want to buy not compatible tool holders from Internet Sales places.
hi stefan just ordered the 250-000 hoping to use 12mm cutters the bad news is the tool holder only have a slot width of 8.5 mm, witch means you have 3.5 mm hanging out , sick as a parrot
Why do you feel the wedge-type post is superior? I have been living with a piston-type one for years and am perfectly happy with itl But my new PM1130 lathe came with a cheap chinese 250-111 wedgen type and the feel is AWFUL.
Hi I have now come to the conclusion that they are both very good now. There's really not much difference between them. Regards Steve
I’m using 250-201 holders with a 250-100 tool holder(undersized)I’ve built up the wedge with a glued&filed stanly blade.
I’m looking to change my tool post for a new wedge type,does anybody know what wedge tool post is compatible with 250-201 holders.
Thanks lads
Paul
If you are in the UK you can get the 250-222 wedge type from arceurotrade.co.uk
I think it is the 250-222 toolpost that takes the 250-200 toolholders. You can check out the 250-222 wedge type toolpost dimensions, to be sure, on the Banggood page listing.
Steve Jordan
Hi Steve,yes your right,i looked up the tool posts on eBay and got the compatible tool holders.love the videos very informative.Thanks
i ment 250 - 100
The 250-100 is too big to use on the Myford ML7 compound slide. It is ok to mount it on a home made toolpost block directly on the cross slide though, like I have done.
steve , what is thickness of adapter plate thatyou made that mounts to crosslide
Hi Simon, it is 20mm thick. Regards Steve
Steve Jordan I’m gonna order something me stock to make one, where did you get t nuts from
Steve Jordan I have slab of 20 mill by needs surfacing down 50thou off each side, can I get away with that ?
Hi Simon yes that will be fine. I got my T Nuts on eBay and Banggood.
Steve Jordan thanks for you help Steve, cheers
Hi, do you know the thread size of 111 toolpost, is it 9/16 unf?
I'm not sure. I will measure it up etc later and check.
Steve Jordan thanks Steve
Hi the thread size is 10mm on this one. Regards Steve