Outrage Over Lakers Skipping Mini Camp
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- The Lakers opted not to hold their yearly mini camp this season, which some saw as a clear sign of dark skies ahead for LA. Trevor Lane sifts through the overreaction in this clip from the Lakers Nation Podcast...
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I have a feeling some people are confusing LeBron's mini-camp with training camp.
They have been confusing power forwards with wings for over a year now, so you might be on to something.
At least most PFs can play the 3, like Rui or Bron
@@Daangelvid360 Bron was a SF for more minutes for 14 years until he decided playing defense is overrated and now he won't ever go back, because it won't allow him to retain the same counting stats and play the same minutes. That's why AD was made to play center in the first place. Bron gave up bringing the ball up to conserve energy as well. If he played hard defense and started at SF LA would be much better, but Bron wouldn't be able to play over 26 minutes or so and he would shoot under 35%. At PF he can play 35 and shoot damn near 40%. Grabbing rebounds is easier, too. So that's what he does.
So like I don't know what that even means when you say some PFs can play SF. Sure we call those guys forwards then. Real PFs are classified as power forwards, because they can't play on the perimeter on one of both ends of the court. LeBron can, always could and was always listed as a SF, even when he played PF sometimes in Cleveland for example. Guy is the best SF of all time and was until he wanted to be a nominal PF and play 80% of his minutes there. It's been ignored for three years now. Why does ESPN list him as a SF? I have no idea. The minutes logged at PF paint a completely different picture.
Now Rui, that's a PF. He can't actually play SF. He gets burned at SF every time. When was the last time Rui locked down a shooting guard or small forward, stole a ball, blocked someone on the perimeter or jumped a passing lane? I mean of course it does happen every once in a while, but he clearly lacks foot speed to defend on the perimeter. About 90% of you guys said Kuzma can't play SF, because he lacks the foot speed for years. But Rui can? He can't. Kuzma has way better foot speed. It's better to play Rui at SF than starting Cam or Max, but they aren't on a starter level. In fact they struggle to be rotation players as you can see.
That whole Vando and Rui thing really only works when they play together and Vando is defending on the perimeter while Rui plays like a SF on offense. Then they hide each other's weaknesses. If LeBron doesn't do that you have three interior defenders and two perimeter defenders. Those two are sub par as well. The whole NBA is playing 4 out or 5 out right now. As a result you get that same terrible perimeter defense we had all season long. Third worst in the NBA. That's bad. Really bad. Caruso, KCP and DG as starters went on a 13-1 run and were like +10 against starters. And that was rotation DG, not starter DG.
You guys have just never seen a sensible lineup since then. Put Caruso and OGA with D'Lo, LBJ and AD and they would start the year 15-2 with a +13.5 rating. Nobody would say a word about needing a center.
@peteranders6893 Is that why LeBron was in the top 85 percentile in total defense among all NBA forwards and top 83 percentile in total defense among all NBA players?
@@bamboosho0t also what the hell does Bron have to do with the players we've landed? Its not his fault we haven't found a legit 4/5 that can push him to the 3, other than Wood who's out
Who cares. Mini camp ain't winning any championships.
Getting a center, wing will.
Getting a championship level PG who can play some defense and be reliable in must win games and the post season as well.
The DLO delusion must end!
Lebron and AD resting off an Olympic run is 1000x more important than a mini camp.
The other players can shake off their rust during regular camp and pre season. These guys was just playing high level basketball last month. Not mention even Rui played during the Olympic run so those 3 (Lebron, AD and RUI) need to rest and take it easy long as they can to prepare for carrying the offensive load.
Like others have mentioned, RUI NEED to play like our 2nd-3rd offensive option. I think he could be more consistent and versatile than DLO. Also think he could be a better defender.
Players like lebron, ad, and rui definitely need to skip mini camp
@@mrpete89 right the others should of did it themselves. Dlo reaves etc probably feel too good to do that with some g league players tho
Did Kobe skip camp after playing in the Olympics. I highly doubt it. But I guess we make exceptions for certain players now.
my thoughts exactly. 💜💛
@@tiaingram6680 lebrons mini camp and training camp are 2 seperate things, are you slow in the head?
Mini Camp is a damn Lebron thing. Lakers never did this before.
Well since Pelinka skipped free agency the players said why not skip Mini Camp
Most underrated comment. 😂
@@peteranders6893 😂😂😂I’m so mad at our management mannnnn
Is the fans really mad about that?? Dam let them breathe lol
Those highlights are so sweeeet!! 😃
Trev thanks for being you 🎉🎉 stay popin
Thank you!
The sooner fans accept they aren't very good this year, the better off they will be
If the media didnt bring this up nobody would've noticed.
Preseason will not be enough time to prepare this team to a new style of play.
If the lakers do better than 3-7 first 10 games that would be a win. Fans need to back off and give J.J. some room. This new CBA is destroying the nba.
Don’t confuse negativity with realistic Trevor. Why should we be excited about Koloko when we all know he’s not good enough to compete against the best teams in the west. At the end of the day we are not an elite team.
LeBron brought mini camps to the lakers when he signed the lakers never really did them before lebron signed. I believe the fans are confusing thinking mini camp and training camp is the same thing.
Amazing ..Everybody thought we had a good enough team last year , injuries changed the lineup ,the coach was not capable ,so stop bitching..this years team is healthier , forget the big center BS.. there were no reasonable acquisitions….. Go JJ, Go Lakers! Forget mini camp! I expect big things to come….
Trevor, you talk about the 'feel good' aspect of the Koloko signing being overlooked, but the obvious reason is because the only thing the fans want is a WINNER, What will make the Lakers winners?
And at this point, it's quite clear that Winning is NOT a priority for this team.
in all honesty im okay with them not holding the players only mini camp. especially when i think they are gonna do a lot during training camp with the new coach.
Your are 100% right in this Trev. Come on guys, the guy is almost 40 and was playing an Olympics finals last month. Same for Davis, who's a big that needs lots of rest, plus what you said about the team, is practically the same and they have been training already while the stars had a break.
Say what you will. The Lakers are seen by many as Very Unserious. Hard to argue with this based on what the front office has achieved of late.
Ain't no party like a Diddy party -lebron James
Trev went to the Hidden Micky's LMAO !!!!! Oh man I'm dead hahahahahaha ...
This season is headed to a major disaster. What a let down by the lakers front office.
I don’t care about a mini camp but I hope they don’t go into this season thinking they can just hit a switch & win a championship like they always do
Trevor just stop . Did the Lakers organization tell you to change the narrative?!!!
The big dogs just brought home gold lol see yall at training camp
It sounds like the Lakers brass believe the roster wasn’t the problem last year. If that’s true, it makes sense they didn’t make any moves.
Lebron said if you want mini camp for next year, you gotta earn it
Koloko is going to blow our socks off Trev...telling you man nobody sees it.
“Issues” like this are a prime example of the fact that it’s still the off season. Fans need content and media heads need clicks. Lakers nation gets a pass cause it’s the Lakers Channel. Granted Palinka didn’t do us any favors. It’s crickets lol
I predict the patience will pay off, there will be multiple fire sales by the trade deadline. Possibly ATL, Suns, T-Wolves, Clippers to mention a few
Fire 🔥 🎉Pelinka
Lebron ain't holding his mini camp due to him stressing out about "diddy parties"
new coaching staff no mini camp recipe for disaster
Dont ever say Laker fans aren't smart. These comments are proof of that. .
Buzz and Pelinka don't think this season is worth saving. Nothing worth looking forward to.
It's simple because Bronny is on the team and the team usually Parties in places that lebron probably don't want bronny to see, so the mini camp is cancelled....Lebron is smart he don't want bronny to tell savannah
It’s the Lebron Stans who don’t know the difference in mini camp and training camp…
Crowd gonna be chanting"led.d.i.iddy" when lakers on the road and that would be least nastiest chant 😂
You do know Kobe was around Diddy also ? 😂😂 he attended Diddys 50th bday party and have many photos with him lmao
@jleww8959 exactly! Kobe also had a rape case, we haven't forgotten lol 😂
Magic was known as "Buck". He caught something.
I view a players only mini camp would be to build camaraderie and unity. It hasn't worked before, so I guess LeBron said eff it.
Oh come on . Like I been saying prior to the Olympics. Lebron and AD were not going to camp and not playing pre season. Lebron AD playing 56-62 games don’t be surprise
Lakers are 1-8 in their last two playoff series. They need mini camp period
Mini Camp isn’t the same thing as training camp
Negativity is all over the place. I'm struggling to say something good about the team
Mini Camp - Lebron’s team bonding camp (he pays for) with just the teammates before preseason starts
Training Camp - Official Team pre season training camp
So many idiots on here confusing the two camps just to hate 😂😂
Well Lakers did not have it when LeBron fist joined the Lakers when we had Lonzo Ingram Hart
I have put a Lakers jersey since Kobe passed away and don't plan it anytime soon and if the Lakers don't make the playoffs we know why
I agree.
5:14 of no mini camp. 😢
i don't think it's a big deal. i think it's possible that they want to give JJ every opportunity to make his mark and a mini camp for the players only could step on JJ's toes. if LeBron does respect JJ, he might want to give him his shine. it's not like the mini camp helped them last season or the season before anyways lol. in the big picture, this is probably the least of their issues. and i'm still not sold on the signing of Koloko. i'm gonna need to see it first.
Mini camp isnt training camp, yall arent wrapped too tight
Dude LeBron played in the Olympics. He needs a rest this year
queen of balco needs rest?
@@sebaztionabsolutionyou dudes are so corny
@@sebaztionabsolutionPeople always assume something negative when they don't like a player but never show proof or source.
@@pmp521 sure. LEzesty ramone shames hasnt played defense las 15 yrs an there's proof of that when he stands around an or doesnt get back on that side of the floor. stop glorifying him when he wont retire.
At least we have to dodgers!
LeBron's too busy hiding his tracks with Puff Daddy
Missing out on Clay Thompson has to be the worst of all the BS .. how do you let one of the most respected shooters go to Dallas.. I would have fired pelinka after the end of negotiation!!!
Because he is on the tail end of his career! The injuries have caught up with him. And he has little to no defense! So the Laker would have been crazy to bring on other aging 🤔 persons.
Uumm he said he chose to go to Dallas become of the taxes he gets to keep millions of dollars in his pockers thats not something the Lakers can match
In the long run, "missing out" on Klay will be a good thing. He simply isn't worth the contract they were offering him at this point of his career. Remember, he lost his starting job this past season and a year before that, he was terrible in the playoffs against the Lakers. He's more name than game.
Klay wanted nothing to do with the Lakers.
As much as we want the Lakers to sign a certain player, Pelinka can't order that player to sign with the team.
What's the point of holding a minicamp with these players
Come on man, The fan base needs to take a look in the mirror.
Not surprised this is the BRON AND BRONNY year this is to be expected …The Olympics also snipped it
you’re delusional bro
@@IsaacClark23 time will reveal to you thx giving Christmas black history mothers and Father’s Day etc will see historic Father/Son play
Keyboard warriors be angry for absolutely no reason. Boo Hoo.
No need to be vague, Trevor, we all know we're talking about Anthony Irwin. That dude was all doom and gloom even in the championship year/years of legit contending.
I just take it as they’re taking this season serious that’s all
They did mini camp last year ... did they win ?
This kind of a duh moment. Bron and AD just came off the Olympics. They don't need the mini camp and the players that weren't in the Olympics should have already been working. It's not a big deal
Bron might need a break from the “guys” the Diddler strikes again!!
They were playing on team USA, don’t mean a thing
Could a mini camp help? Sure, mainly to build comradery between teammates, especially new ones that just joined the team. Is it necessary? No. Most of the team is the exact same anyway roster-wise. They don't need a mini camp. LeBron, AD and Rui competed in the Olympics. Them getting extra rest is fine. The mini camp was always led by LeBron. If LeBron doesn't want to hold one, that's fine. This isn't going to make or break the Lakers season. For the other Lakers fans that are angry or outraged by this, go have some fun in your life
Maybe they aren’t having mini camp because of a trade coming
Everyone don't count the Lakers out, if everyone will stay healthy I believe this team will make some noise,darvin ham is gone, a great basketball mind is taking over.
I blame the media and these lakers channels for making lakers fans so soft and negative too many followers not enough basketball mind leaders
This is pretty silly. First of all, these Lebron mini-camps are more for bonding than anything else (there is still the official training camp next week), and how have these mini-camps really helped the past 2 years? They've had terrible pre-seasons and starts to the year. I say do something different this time.
Lakers have *no* chance anyway ..
not with this roster 😂
Yall starting Already lmao
Not a big deal don't know why people are tripping out on it
Way to downplay this!!
Next topic. Non story.
In other news 🙄
I am frustrated with the Lakers because Buss handed the organization to LeCancer. I am done with the LeBron clownshow until LeBron and Buss are gone.
Buss clearly has no vision other than pleasing LeBron. She is out of her depth.
Koloko will b good as.. Thomas Bryant or Wenyen Gabriel at best.. not much impact
He has much more defense than bryant and gariel and longer wing span
Change teams then
Minnie Campos
Who cares? Just win baby.
Laker fans should be more concerned if Diddy's tapes will bring down Lebron. Thats concern #1.
Lebron's mini camp is purely for team building. Same team so there is no need. 🤷🏻♂️
Laker fans been so @nnoying lately 😂 just accept we probably gonna be trash and support your team. Only way to go is up
ngl i’ve been staying away from your content just because of all the winy babies in the comments..it’s embarrassing
Fake outrage for likes and clicks.
I just want laker season to start so the media can ask Lebron about those pdiddy parties lol
😂😂😂😂😂
🤡
The latter diddy parties were nothing like the parties in the early 2000s. That’s when LeBron went.
all the top players in the league went to a diddy party …
Lakers are a joke
Lakers Nation is getting harder and harder to watch. With a new coaching staff, new playbook, and a recent history of slow starts, we need all the practice and chemistry we can get.
They are practicing. Thats just it, they are still training at the facility. They aren’t putting in any less work
@@LakersNation Not the same as when you get away from all the noise / distractions as a team and lock in. Never should have stopped the Hawaii trip. Even more so when we need to ramp up Connect, Christie, and to some extent JHS.
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Austin Reaves is a bench player on any other team in the league.
Lmao what a stupid ass thing to say, the way y'all overrate other teams and underrate ours is insulting
Maybe a top 15 team but he could still start on 16 - 30
That’s why so many teams want him. Bench strength is integral.
who cares because LEzesty ramone shames doesnt practice an or is a good teammate. stop the lies an narratives.
Somebody call a Doctor for the guy..
You say we're looking for things to complain about. Fans dont have to look too far. We wont start winming again until we let the King sail into the sunset. He is crippling us. I am looking forwar to the play-in .
Totally agree Trevor and I rarely agree with you. 😊
Lol happy to be in agreement for a change
Kobe won with paul gasol and Derek Fisher...lakers fans know what greatness looks like....this ain't it 40 yr old bron not winning no ring
Prime a.d couldn't make the playoffs as a number 1 option
There's nobody that they can get that's worth having for the prices being asked might as well draft and start building up there assets now to make them valuable for the future everybody that they've signed for more than 2 years in the pasted couple of seasons keeps getting hurt when they changed the rules to penalize players the all Stars were a little more healthy but that's about it the mavs were in the finals so they made moves but the lakers haven't really shown that they are one move away they seem to be 3 moves away and that's with lebron whose 40 and probably about to retire lakers don't have the assets to get 3 quality players a new young team would be more exciting to watch build around austin and ad