Chords Film Composers use for the HOLLYWOOD SOUND
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- How to use Chords by 3rds, aka chromatic mediant chords.
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Chromatic mediant chords are an easy way to use non-functional harmony to create powerful emotional effects. We’ll put the music theory to actual practical use by looking at short examples of moving between different major and minor chord relationships.
Enhance moods, make your chords sound “more major” or “more minor”, and use the harmonic technique that you hear all over film, TV and video game soundtracks! Using chords with roots a third apart is a great step towards broader non-diatonic harmony.
I first heard about this trick from Scott Smalley at a film scoring orchestration workshop in LA, but I’ve since seen it talked about many times, including in the book Hollywood Harmony: Musical Wonder and the Sound of Cinema by Frank Lehman.
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0:00 Intro
0:39 What are Chords by 3rds?
2:01 "More major, more minor"
3:08 Major to Major 1
3:52 Major to Major 2
4:25 Major to Minor
5:36 Minor to Minor
6:27 Minor to Major
7:17 Final thoughts
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Just him saying that non-diatonic progressions are nonfunctional harmony, and it's better to think about the color than anything else, just opened my mind. So simple,,yet so big
yea, never thought of it that way but it works.
Actually, he's precisely right because broadly speaking all parallel or relative chords are the same function by which logic all 24 basic triads can be separated into 3 groups where all the chords that are minor third up or down are basically the same function, so there's no change in function when using flat third modulation method like here because practically all of these chords are the same function.
@@Grigoriy1996what about chords that are tritones apart, I think they’re also nonfunctional
@@RobinsMusic or the "same function". That's why triton substitutions exist. Basically, triton substitutions fall under this category of relative and parallel chords being somewhat the "same" function because chords that are triton apart are relative for a relative chord (a minor third + a minor third equals a triton).
@Grigoriy1996 what does it mean to say "function"? Everything you're saying is above my head.
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I appreciate it, I'm hoping people come away with idea or techniques they can actually use.
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Thanks so much, it really is my hope that people can take these ideas and put them to use immediately.
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OK. There is a basic concept here sometimes know as "multi tonic systems." This happens when you divide the chromatic scale (12 notes) by any number that will divide evenly: 2, 3, 4, 6. In this case Ryan has divided the chromatic scale by 3 (ending up with major 3rds: C, E G#) and 4 (ending up with minor thirds: C, Eb, Gb, A). This will also work with dividing by 2 (tritone C, Gb; listen to the opening phrase of Debussy's Prélude à l’Aprés-Midi d’un Faune) and 6 (whole steps C, D, E, F#, G#, A#). Shifting the chord root to any of these gives pretty much the same effect because it moves away from the diatonic and leaves the listener in tonal no-man's land. Try it!
I don't know much about music theory this "advanced" (for me it's advanced, idk if it really is). But I just viewed Venus Theorys video on reharmonization. Is this the same? When I compared the changes here to the circle of fifths changes he talked about it was following the rules he presented.
@@inanitas You can start off and just play a chord on each division of the octave. For instance: C major, Eb major, Gb major, A major (and back to C). Then add a short melody such as do re mi fa sol (C D E F G on the C chord). And do the same on each chord (Eb F G Ab Bb on the Eb chord, etc). Then add a second chord C Dm C on the C chord, Eb Fm Eb on the Eb chord, etc.) You can make each phrase as long as you want, maybe 4 bars on the C key, 4 bars on the Eb key, 4 bars on the Gb Key, 4 bars on the A key.. Or pick a song (like the Beatles Yesterday) and play 4 bars in the original key of F, the 4 bars in Ab, 4 bars in B, 4 bars in D. You'll get a sense of how "multi tonic systems" can be used to get a "floating" feeling o never landing or needing to resolve to any key.
@@iamtheimagedoctor Thank you :) I'm not classically trained though and I sadly can't even play an instrument. I make music digitally. But I'll programm it into my DAW and play around with it
The minor to minor example nailed the music to Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall
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I've been hearing this shift-a-third trick flipping EVERYWHERE and have been searching for a name to attach to it! This video is an excellent explanation and I'll send it to the next person I need to explain the Hollywood Sound trick to
When I try to write songs, I get tired of the same 1-4-5 and their relative minors that sound so stale. I want to try new combinations, so I subbed.
The last one was my favourite!
Amazing and explained very simply. Anyone else here noticed the similarity with the Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning game soundtrack?
Fantastic lesson. Never thought in this way. Opened my eyes....and my ears!
The simplicity of the examples is really perfect for showcasing this technique! Thanks for the awesome content!
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Unless you're really good at reading a script, you definitely know your stuff. The presentation in all your videos is smooth and easy to follow. Excellent work!
Amazing teacher! Sir - you make complicated things understandable so easy for people like me - I was actually reading lots of reference books and articles to understand these simple (actually you made that sooo simple) "how to achieve epic sound techniques" - by teaching in the easiest way. A thousand thanks again.
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wow this actually blew my mind its the piece of the puzzle I've been looking for thank you sir!
I just want to say thank you for the way you explained it all. I had a problem in school because they made me feel like these are rules with they way they explained it. The way you explained it made me feel more like these are just told to use to explain what I'm doing with my music.
Thanks Ryan. You made a big subject very graspable (if that's a word) in just a few minutes.
Thank you this is the second video of yours I have watched and both really helped fill in some missing gaps in my music.
You could have mentioned that these chord relations are called mediants and submediants.
This is the kind of harmony that was developed in the mid 1800:s by Wagner, Liszt, Bruckner and Brahms, along with the theoretic teacher Simon Sechter. So film music has its roots in high and late romantic music and its instrumentation.
You should check out 0:30
This is so cool and perfectly timed. God I love UA-cam. Thanks for posting this. It's opened up what I thought was even possible.
This video is so helpful. I always wanted to try new things apart from the usual chord progression or modal interchange. This is one of the jigsaw to my puzzle. Thank you. Share more ideas like this 👍🏻
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Really nice video! Really been liking what you're putting on your channel, hope you continue it!
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I really liked the two examples that used the harp, they reminded me of the track Oversnow from Eric Heberling's soundtracks to Arena And Daggerfall, which makes sense since it has chords moving exactly like this, in a quasi Coltrane-changes major 3rds cycle.
Great video. Great Explanations! I like your orchestrations in the examples.
The last example I experience as discovery or uncovering -- very fantasy-game like.
One you could have also mention (which I love) which is an even stronger transition/effect is if you go a tritone away (using minor-minor, or major to major) - it creates either an ominous discovery atmosphere or a wonderous discovery atmosphere -- both terrifying in their own way. John Williams uses this in Indiana Jones when Indiana finds the arc of the covenant --masterful orchestration. Inversions don't matter either, so the counterpoint/voice leading is easy, and lends itself to chromaticism.
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Wow that minor to minor gave immediate Star Wars vibes
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A really good method for expressive,lyrical harmony,from pop songs to symphonic,is the link of parallel (as opposed to relative) major and minor tonic. C Major and C minor share the tonic,but are a minor 3rd apart in key signature. The use of both keys doubles the I/IV/V sets to use; C,F,G/Am,Dm,Em/Cm,FmGm/Eb,Ab,Bb.
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It could have just been the use of 3/4 and harp but in the final example I got strong Danny Elfman vibes. The way he uses unexpected chord progressions to create a strong narrative for the actions on screen.
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Hello, Ryan. For the minor to minor segment (6:00), the sample you gave sounded like "the wolf" theme in Prokofiev's "Peter and the Wolf".
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Wow really nice video! Thank you for the tips. I subscribed to your channel and I can see that there is a lot of very interesting content. I'm gonna dive deeper into the orchestration section since I'm trying to improve it on my own
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I cannot believe that I missed this video! Great video Ryan, and just what I was getting into lately! I wanted to ask: could you perhaps make some videos on Kingdoms of Amalur’s great soundtrack? I feel it relates strongly to this video.
Cool, I don't know that one but I'll check it out!
That's a great soundtrack and game Paulo. I also commented on the similarity. These patterns seem heavily used by Grant Kirkhope. I'd also like to see a video on it.
The last example could be used well in an 'unhinged' scenario. The colours of happiness within the sad have a very uneasy and false quality. Really interesting.
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Really interesting. Can you mention some of the movies that you have scored?
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Sure, check out Candy Jar on Netflix: ua-cam.com/video/1lXLGwe_DUU/v-deo.html
Some others on a variety of streaming platforms are Fire City: End of Days, Skinning, Pastor Shepherd, Miles Between Us. Lots of indie films!
Major up to Major: heroic, super happy, bold, royal, light/quirky
Major down to Major: magical,mysterious
Major down to Minor: dark, unexpected, sinister
Minor to minor: dark,strange
Minor to Major: mystic, dark folksy (IMO)
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This opened up a lot of chords for me which is exactly what I was looking for. Love the "insider tip". What else do you have? :)
Thanks! Once I get through this orchestration series I'm sure there will be more harmony ones coming.
@@RyanLeach Excellent! And I LOVE the orchestration series too! So good!!
Phenomenal video! Is there any particular reason why you focused chords that are separated by major and minor thirds?
It might be because of the way the roots relate to each other. With root motion by 4ths/5ths or 2nds/7ths you get feelings of very strong functional progressions. If I go from C to Fm it feels like I'm moving to a new level of gravity. But the thirds relationships don't have that so you can change the color and mood without also affecting that sense of ground.
@@RyanLeach Great explanation!
So, there’s always a relation with a tonic? If I insert a chord by a 3rd to other chords in a progression, it won’t be considered as chr mediant?? Thnx bro❤
Essential this is using chromatic mediants and double chromatic mediants
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What's another music theory/harmony topic you want to see a video on?
I've lately been into secondary dimished so would like an exploration there at some point to add to the secondary dominant video. I'd also be interested in a video on composing beginning / middle / end and what each bit entails.
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What are some of films, video games, commercials, tec., have you scored ?
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For melody, how do you construct this since you cannot just play diatonic notes. Playing so many chords outside of the key makes it hard. Do you simply play chord tones since there is not really a scale to follow?
I wouldn't recommend venturing out from chord tones (maybe a suspension (sus4) when returning to the first chord), as the first chord in the sequence pretty much presents the key, and the next chord is like a temporary modulation, but not really. You can experiment with passing tones of the key presented by the first chord, but I would keep it simple and stick to chord tones and especially arpeggios, that's the simplest for this effect.
Great video.What are the samples used here?
Thanks! That's NotePerformer in Sibelius.
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Excellent video as always! Isn’t this all called chromatic mediants and chromatic submediants?
Thanks! Yea I think I made a passing reference to that term in the video, but I think it's a bit abstract and makes it sound more difficult than it really is. Also I think if you're being super strict a chromatic mediant has to share a common tone and be the same type (major to major only), so it wouldn't include something like C major to Eb minor.
@@RyanLeach IMO that’s the best type of teaching, specially when we are talking about informal teaching. Simplifying terms so they are easier to understand but still making a reference to the proper terminology is a great strategy. You are not trying to show off your knowledge, you’re passing it on in a way that is easy to digest for your audience/students, kudos my friend.
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05:42 Yeah, Howard Shore Lord of the Rings Technique
Last example felt like 80% of Danny Elfman's work.
A great example of an effect similar to the minor to 3rd major is Brittien's "Balulalow" from "A Ceremony of Carols," in which he almost continuously switches between f# minor and F# major, and then adds a jump from f# minor to C major:
ua-cam.com/video/1iqFXEbSdjM/v-deo.html
The result is a very modal-sounding piece, that also happens to be one of the most beautiful musical work ever created.
Okay so how do you ACTUALLY use modes??
Music isn't just Harmony there's also bass movement there's also melody, Harmony supports the melody, so how do you use modes with these out of key chords?
Great video, but the captions desync at the 2min mark roughly
Weird, thanks for the heads up!
@@RyanLeach sure thing, thanks for responding I appreciate it.
new subscriber here ! if you could show us a keyboard to demonstrate chords it will be great !
Absolutely! I've been trying to do that recently. This is an old video for me, I didn't know how to do that yet lol
@@RyanLeach Perfect ! thank you
Your Gm….Ebm…….Gm…..Bbm progression is very reminiscent of something Bernard Herrman might have written in, for example, Jason and the Argonauts soundtrack.
Yea I totally know what you mean. Seventh Voyage of Sinbad is a favorite Hermann score of mine!
This would be much easier to follow if you played the chord after you named it, so that those of us who aren't familiar with terminology but have it in their ear already could catch up
Consider it a translation job, similar to subtitling, for, uh, the anti-deaf
Thanks for the tip, I'll try to be more mindful of keeping the talking and playing in sync in future videos!
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Great videos, but not reading notes, it would be super helpful if you could show it on the piano keys as well. PS: I do expect to pick up reading notes eventually, but right now I have enough with trying to muddle along on a keyboard lol.
“This emphasis is not on harmonic movement, but instead color and effect.” Would you say that this is one of the things that sets film music apart from other kinds of Western music?
Hm not necessarily, I think the same could be said of a lot of electronic dance music for just one example
Thanks. What does set film music apart from other kinds of music? Or is that a question that’s too huge for a UA-cam comment? I loved the content.
@@d.harrison1570 Film music must serve the story, but a song on the radio or piece in a concert does not have to
3:25 Technically D & F are VI & VII chords of G mixolydian. I dunno. The rest of the tune could go G - Am - G - C - G - D - Am - Geeeeeeeeeeeeeee for all we know,.
Well technically the Ab/C is not a chromatic mediant because it’s not in root position, and there are theorists saying that changing the mode of the chord (going from major to minor or vice versa) is not a chromatic mediant either…
To much theory for my opinion. Lets jump straight to the practise.