Malplaquet 1709 | 18th Century Europe's Bloodiest Battle

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  • Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
  • With France at the breaking point, and two of history's greatest generals on its doorstep, who and what will save it?
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    References/Sources:
    Falkner, James Great and Glorious Days: The Duke of Marlborough’s Battles 1704-1709
    1 Jan 2003 Spellmount Publishers
    Morris J. Graham The Battle of Malplaquet Battlefield Anomalies
    Retrieved From: battlefieldanomalies.com/the-...
    Nicholas Dorrell, 19 April 2015: Marlborough’s Other Army The British Army and the Campaigns of the First Peninsular War, 1702-1712, Helion and Company
    MacDowall, Simon Malplaquet 1709: Marlborough’s Bloodiest Battle
    2020 Osprey Publishing Ltd.
    Sturgill, Claude C, 1965, Marshall Villars and the War of the Spanish Succession
    University of Kentucky Press
    Kronoskaf, Project WSS Battle of La Gudina
    kronoskaf.com/wss/index.php?ti...
    00:00 Intro
    00:47 Strategic Situation
    06:44 La Gudina
    09:13 The Armies Prepare
    11:23 Bois de Sars Attack
    17:39 Dutch Attack
    20:23 Counterattack Halted
    23:00 Cavalry Battle
    26:01 Results

КОМЕНТАРІ • 443

  • @josesevilla4451
    @josesevilla4451 Рік тому +39

    Inexplicably, the Franco-Spanish victory in the battle of La Gudiña or the Caia River (May 1709), on the Badajoz border with Portugal, is practically unknown or very little valued for its strategic consequences in Spain. Thanks for giving it the spotlight it deserves.

  • @autokrator_
    @autokrator_ Рік тому +92

    “However, they were tired - for unknown reasons - after not even being shot at once.” Haha, love the contempt dripping through that sentence.

    • @FieldMarshalYT
      @FieldMarshalYT  Рік тому +36

      they retired* but yes

    • @MXB2001
      @MXB2001 Рік тому +8

      @@FieldMarshalYT It actually _sounds_ like you say tired although it becomes clear later what you did say.

  • @Raadpensionaris
    @Raadpensionaris 2 роки тому +64

    Fun fact. While Tilly was de facto the highest Dutch commander after Overkirk died, he wasn't officialy promoted. This was because the Dutch provinces of Frisia and Groningen rather saw their Stadtholder, the Prince of Orange, in that position. The fact that the Dutch Republic wasn't a unified state made for these kind of messy politics

  • @blitzcrieg101
    @blitzcrieg101 Рік тому +200

    Find it interesting how this and the Battle of Poltava happened almost simultaneously. 1709 changed the world as we know it.

    • @NobleKorhedron
      @NobleKorhedron Рік тому +11

      Poltava was Sweden VS Russia, right...?

    • @blitzcrieg101
      @blitzcrieg101 Рік тому +4

      @@NobleKorhedron yup

    • @GayTruckDriver
      @GayTruckDriver Рік тому +5

      ​@@NobleKorhedron it marks the beginning of the end for the Swedish empire

    • @Last555555555
      @Last555555555 Рік тому +13

      the most fascinating part imo is how King Charles XII was offered the opportunity to mediate the issue of Spanish succession, and he turned it down. If he had mediated, he could've possibly prevented the war in its entirety and potentially made allies that could've helped him in the Great Northern War.

    • @obsequiouscalumny4981
      @obsequiouscalumny4981 Рік тому +10

      Yes. Plus, Bach and Handel were composing masterpieces every year.

  • @thibaudduhamel2581
    @thibaudduhamel2581 Рік тому +27

    A little known effect of this battle is that a rumor spread in the french army that the duke of Marlborough died at Malplaquet. Although it proved false, it was enough to raise the morale of the troops and civilians alike.
    Nowadays, this event is commemorated in France with the children’s song « Marlborough s’en va t’en guerre » (Marlborough went to war)

    • @erichammer2751
      @erichammer2751 Рік тому +5

      Better known outside of France as "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow."

    • @FredericGaillot
      @FredericGaillot Рік тому

      This song is still known and sang for kids: ua-cam.com/video/DEHJLd8QRz8/v-deo.html

    • @kakab66
      @kakab66 2 місяці тому +2

      In the song he is called "Malbrouk"

    • @christianfournier6862
      @christianfournier6862 17 днів тому

      @@erichammer2751= the two melodies have nothing in common. Try to listen on YT.

    • @christianfournier6862
      @christianfournier6862 17 днів тому +1

      Try on YT “malbrough s'en va-t-en guerre”; You'll see the two melodies are not at all the same.

  • @deteon1418
    @deteon1418 2 роки тому +83

    It's always exciting to learn about a war of which I know next to nothing in great detail. The quality of the script, audio and animation gets better for every video you make!
    Fantastic! 👍🏻

    • @MXB2001
      @MXB2001 Рік тому

      I know. Before this video I knew that Malplaquet was a battle thanks to "Empire Deluxe" which has a city named after it and that the war of the Spanish Succession had something to do with "Colonization". Now I know 10,000 times as much it seems.

    • @secretagent86
      @secretagent86 Рік тому

      Heir not “hair”. Just starting to watch it. I also know no nothing of this

    • @secretagent86
      @secretagent86 Рік тому

      Oh dear. I am sure you are presenting a high quality video but i simply cannot stand mispronunciation. Hair for heir ( pronounced “air”). And hag for Hague… good luck but i suggest a third party review prior to posting

  • @gerrytyrrell1507
    @gerrytyrrell1507 Рік тому +11

    The irish soldiers were called " wild geese" .The majority of the jacobite army ,left for France to fight under the Louis. Patrick Sarsfield been the most famous irish soldier to fight under the French banner.

  • @bofoenss8393
    @bofoenss8393 Рік тому +29

    Excellent video! It is interesting to see how Marlborough used the same tactic as at Blenheim - attacking the flanks to weaken the French center leaving it open for attack - yet the quality of the French troops proved so good it almost failed here where it had succeeded at Blenheim. It speaks to the quality and dedicated work of raising the morale and quality of the French Army.
    Interestingly enough, Napoleon would use the exact same tactic at Waterloo in 1815, only for it to fail like here, and then the overall tactic got lost in the chaos of the latter part of the battle.

    • @CometTheProto
      @CometTheProto Рік тому +6

      If you’ve watched the latest video on Napoleon’s Italian campaign, he also used the same tactic to force Wurmser’s army into Mantua at the battle of San Giorgio.

    • @RodolfoGaming
      @RodolfoGaming Рік тому +1

      Napoleon was more of a flanking or blasting you to pieces from a distance kind of guy and his center attack only happened because his planned attack on the wings failed or were bogged down long enough before the prussians arrived. His plan was to crush the brits then fight the prussians and heby the time he decides to launch the attack he's already under heavy pressure from the arriving prussians

    • @Notteriva
      @Notteriva 10 місяців тому +1

      Napoleon failed because the Prussians arrived

  • @yc2673
    @yc2673 Рік тому +12

    French and English have a common chant about this battle. The one of the English is a very popular folk song. The one of the French is this one :
    Malborough s'en va-t-en guerre mironton mironta mirontaine...
    Malbourough s'en va-t-en guerre,
    Ne sait quand reviendra (x3)
    Which means, Malborough is going to war, don't know when he'll came back !
    Effectively, he never got back !
    Cheers friends !

    • @paulbantick8266
      @paulbantick8266 Рік тому +3

      He didn't come back because of machinations back in England. Marlborough was the best General of the war. Malplaquet was a setback but nevertheless, yet another victory...Luckily for France.

    • @Sir_William_Marshal
      @Sir_William_Marshal Рік тому +4

      @@paulbantick8266 He did comeback, Marlborough launched two more campaigns after Malplaquet and both were very successful, the problem was that he had run out of time to move against Paris because the British were leaving the war after securing favorable terms.

  • @DanNikon1776
    @DanNikon1776 2 роки тому +20

    Amazing video, you are certainly perfecting your craft and niche. I don't think I've seen the Spanish War of Succession covered so well.

  • @hgramofficial8982
    @hgramofficial8982 Рік тому +15

    Absolutely fantastic content, it doesn't seem that any other UA-camr has done this on this war!

  • @WyomingTraveler
    @WyomingTraveler Рік тому +7

    Excellent video! You did a wonderful job of explaining the battle with the aid of your graphics. I think I see the influence of Warhawk in your work. The war of the Spanish succession was a very bloody affair. You just picked up another subscriber.

  • @ashercroy4982
    @ashercroy4982 2 роки тому +29

    Absolutely phenomenal! I watched every second intensely. You are able to portray these battles as the accurate and desperate struggles that they were. The only downside is that now we have to wait until the next video!

    • @FieldMarshalYT
      @FieldMarshalYT  2 роки тому +4

      Fortunately I got a new script writer. He writes for the channel Warhawk and is superb. He also pisses those scripts out like nothing so it's a load off for me. I'm getting to work on the Spanish campaign of 1710 as we speak!

    • @alexandercaliat5958
      @alexandercaliat5958 Рік тому +3

      @@FieldMarshalYT Good job well done sir

  • @fredflintystoneea
    @fredflintystoneea Рік тому +1

    Absolutely amazing. Very well done. Thank you for sharing.

  • @amtmannb.4627
    @amtmannb.4627 2 роки тому +1

    Great work! I like it, that the video is so much detailed and has a good duration.

  • @xdictionary6162
    @xdictionary6162 Рік тому +2

    Just found this video, thankyou so much! I appreciate your narration. Its like listening to an audio book with visuals. Keep up the great work!

  • @XDspacemanJD
    @XDspacemanJD 2 роки тому +10

    I've been waiting for this one. Very much the 18th Century Borodino. Good work Field Marshal. 😁

  • @conradnelson5283
    @conradnelson5283 Рік тому +3

    Great job explaining the battle. Well done.

  • @nicolasvanhorton5043
    @nicolasvanhorton5043 Рік тому +10

    I have just discovered your channel and I thank you for telling these battles which seem little known to the general public.

  • @Leaffordes
    @Leaffordes 2 роки тому +3

    Excellent work!

  • @AndreevGM
    @AndreevGM Рік тому +2

    Amazing video. Thanks

  • @stonesinmyblood27
    @stonesinmyblood27 Рік тому +2

    Well done, loved it🙏👍

  • @jtcouch
    @jtcouch 9 місяців тому +4

    The scholarship behind this series of videos is exemplary. Well done!

    • @grahammorris6235
      @grahammorris6235 8 місяців тому

      I agree about the scholarship (since I contributed to its content), but where are the credits?

  • @BuergerPT
    @BuergerPT 2 місяці тому

    Excellent material. Thanks so much.

  • @pz3j
    @pz3j Рік тому

    Suberb job this. I doff my hat to you sir. Thank you for this most detailed, thrilling, and elegant history.

  • @raemont1328
    @raemont1328 Рік тому

    This is so well made! Very Good!

  • @Zygmunt-Zen
    @Zygmunt-Zen Рік тому +1

    Great video, really well done Field Marshal. +1 sub.

  • @S2Sturges
    @S2Sturges Рік тому

    Fascinating, thank you !

  • @Otochiro1
    @Otochiro1 Рік тому +1

    Great video thanks

  • @emperorofhistory8724
    @emperorofhistory8724 2 роки тому +2

    Fantastic video! Your channel deserves so many more subscribers and viewers. Keep going.

    • @FieldMarshalYT
      @FieldMarshalYT  2 роки тому +1

      Glad to see this video's steam hasnt run out, thank you very much!

  • @illinoismotionpicturestudi5065
    @illinoismotionpicturestudi5065 2 роки тому +17

    “Hey this is very similar to that one UA-cam series that has cool animated maps and discussed the American Civil War, I think it was called WarHaw-“
    In all seriousness this was an excellent video man, loved seeing the sneak previews for this in the discord server

  • @ComboMuster
    @ComboMuster Рік тому

    Excellent presentation. I see this channel growing. Subscribed.

  • @dancoles2235
    @dancoles2235 Рік тому

    Very well made; captivating story. Thank you.

  • @mahdiziyafati2626
    @mahdiziyafati2626 2 роки тому +4

    I literally enjoyed every second of it

  • @Adonnus100
    @Adonnus100 Рік тому +4

    Great documentary on a massive and underappreciated battle.

  • @konst80hum
    @konst80hum 7 днів тому

    Excellent as always. Love the period artwork.

  • @vinz4066
    @vinz4066 2 роки тому +4

    Outstanding Video. One can realy notice how the quality of your Videos increases. Especialy the Audio.

  • @HamanKarn567
    @HamanKarn567 2 роки тому +1

    Great videos

  • @hassanminbaghdad
    @hassanminbaghdad 2 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video thank you for making this

    • @AlanMorton-yn5ke
      @AlanMorton-yn5ke 25 днів тому

      But the map should not show Paris on the banks of the Somme, or it should show the Seine running west to Normandy.

  • @caiussempronius2342
    @caiussempronius2342 Рік тому +1

    Congratulations, very good job.

  • @isrisentoday
    @isrisentoday Рік тому +5

    What a great video. I've known this battle before but I've never been so riveted. Thanks.

  • @deathwatch5872
    @deathwatch5872 Рік тому

    My friend you earned yourself a sub!

  • @michaelcarlin9153
    @michaelcarlin9153 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent, excellent!!

  • @csl7972
    @csl7972 2 роки тому +2

    Great Job! And this video already surpassed Oudenaarde's views that's impressive.

    • @FieldMarshalYT
      @FieldMarshalYT  2 роки тому +1

      All under one week, even got me enough watch hours to become monetized

  • @leoburgess3030
    @leoburgess3030 Місяць тому +1

    Great video

  • @fredericespie7015
    @fredericespie7015 Рік тому +2

    Merci beaucoup pour cette présentation très intéressante 👍❤️😎

  • @siggevibes
    @siggevibes Рік тому +7

    What a battle, it must have been both truly horrifyingly glorious and terribly grand 😨

  • @stevenverdoliva6217
    @stevenverdoliva6217 Рік тому +1

    Well done.👍🏻

  • @carthagodelenda9014
    @carthagodelenda9014 Рік тому

    Earned yourself a sub - quality video, sir!

  • @amesbancal
    @amesbancal Рік тому +4

    Excellent bonne narration très bon montage next vidéo I hope the battle of Denain

  • @kolerick
    @kolerick 14 днів тому

    I like the parallel/reflection with the Antique king Pyrrhus saying "another such victory will see us undone" and this from Claude de Villars "another such defeat will see our enemies undone" (paraphrasing)

  • @GrudgeyCable
    @GrudgeyCable 2 роки тому +2

    Loved the video dude! They just keep getting better. Can’t wait for more

  • @anselmdanker9519
    @anselmdanker9519 2 роки тому +23

    Thank you for your excellent presentation of the French victory at Malplaquet.This battle is seldom covered.

    • @FieldMarshalYT
      @FieldMarshalYT  2 роки тому +6

      More like strategic victory but thank you!

    • @Raadpensionaris
      @Raadpensionaris 2 роки тому +10

      Allied victory*

    • @kyriakospentheides
      @kyriakospentheides Рік тому +8

      It was an allied victory. As I am old school, I don't even go by the idea of a "strategic victory", instead I would say a ''near-Pyrrhic victory" for the Grand Alliance. The reason I'd argue against it being a "strategic" victory is that as well is because the main strategic goals of France were not actually met. It was also famously a tactical defeat for France too, so claiming it as a "French victory" is some jest, surely?

    • @anselmdanker9519
      @anselmdanker9519 Рік тому +2

      @@kyriakospentheides thank you for sharing, I always had a problem with it being classified as on of Marlborough 's victories.

    • @romainmacaire6943
      @romainmacaire6943 Рік тому +13

      @@kyriakospentheides It is a french victory because the allied forces lost so much during this batle that they had to cancel their invasion of France. The Maréchal de Villars who was in command of the french army send a letter to Louis XIV after the battle saying :"another lost like this one and we will win the war".

  • @davidmajer3652
    @davidmajer3652 Рік тому +1

    Very impressive work, count me as a subscriber.

  • @jared6882
    @jared6882 2 роки тому +1

    10/10 mate!!!

  • @matthewkuchinski1769
    @matthewkuchinski1769 Рік тому +4

    This battle seems comparable to the Battle of Guilford Courthouse (March 15, 1781), where Major General Nathaniel Greene compelled Lieutenant General Charles, Lord Cornwallis, to meet in in battle on ground of Greene's choosing. Though the forces involved were vastly smaller than those at Malplaquet (4,400 for Greene and 1,900 for Cornwallis), it still saw a force believed to have been already beaten by its opponent being able to choose a place to fight a bloody battle that would cost heavy casualties (10-15% of Greene's army were casualties, but Cornwallis lost nearly a quarter of his strength) and decisively change the outcome of the conflict.

  • @mario_1683
    @mario_1683 2 роки тому +13

    I just love the clothee of this era. They looked so much better those days.

  • @Jauhl1
    @Jauhl1 25 днів тому +2

    If I must make war,” “I would rather fight my enemies than my children.”

  • @frogwaffle7
    @frogwaffle7 Рік тому

    Down right Fascinating!!! Wish i was a fly on a tree witnessing the battle unfold :)

    • @jimmyohara2601
      @jimmyohara2601 Рік тому +1

      Battle duration would have been more than your lifespan 🤐😐

  • @2ezee2011
    @2ezee2011 Рік тому +1

    very interesting

  • @FrancoisD-kx8fe
    @FrancoisD-kx8fe Рік тому +3

    C'est lors de la retraite Française qu'a été inventé la chanson Malbrouk s'en va-t-en guerre.
    A Malplaquet le lieu de la bataille s'appelle depuis La pature aux boudennes (le pré aux ventres).

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 Рік тому

    Amazing historical coverage of that historical matter of Spanish empire history

  • @reynardthefox
    @reynardthefox Рік тому +1

    well done...great stuff...the first time my ancestors fought for Britain rather than Scotland

  • @skiteufr
    @skiteufr Рік тому +6

    Europe vs France... as very often in those times

    • @Raisonnance.
      @Raisonnance. Рік тому +3

      Depuis Louis XIV jusqu'à Napoléon.
      Trop fort pour eux. 😮

    • @archivesoffantasy5560
      @archivesoffantasy5560 11 місяців тому

      @@Raisonnance.Louis XIV, Revolutionary France and Napoleon I. But not all of Louis XV’s reign, France lost the Seven Years’ War and it was Prussia who had the coalition against them in that time. Also for the American War of Independence, during the time of Louis XVI, it was Britain facing the coalition.
      I agree for Louis XIV and Napoleon though, but not the whole time in-between.

  • @benjamindejonge3624
    @benjamindejonge3624 Рік тому +2

    What a surprise, I never heard about this battle till now

    • @FieldMarshalYT
      @FieldMarshalYT  Рік тому +3

      Unfortunately 18th century wars are often glossed over despite their significance in influencing the outcome of world history.

    • @Unpseudopascommelesautres
      @Unpseudopascommelesautres 11 місяців тому

      Elle est malheureusement peu connue. C'est dommage étant donné que même si nos armées quittent le champs de bataille, on leur inflige une telle concentration de morts et de chaos qu'ils doivent sérieusement remettre en question leur chance dans la victoire finale. Malplaquet a presque annulé à elle toute seule les terribles défaites de blenheim, ramilies et oudenarde.
      En tout cas, merci De Villars de nous avoir sauvé, tout ça en infériorité numérique. Maintenant à notre tour de propager la bonne parole en faisant connaître cette bataille !

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek 2 роки тому +15

    Please keep up the good work friend your a massive inspiration to so many even those bigger than you

  • @bernardotorres4659
    @bernardotorres4659 Рік тому +7

    What a glorious battle ! The French won great glory , the Duch in second place also .

    • @e.s.6275
      @e.s.6275 Рік тому

      BS. Death and destruction being called "glory"...

    • @bernardotorres4659
      @bernardotorres4659 Рік тому +2

      @@e.s.6275 No , not that ; it is the way that individual men face death and destruction , that is called glory .

    • @e.s.6275
      @e.s.6275 Рік тому

      @@bernardotorres4659 there is no sense in facing death for the sake of destruction, and self-destruction.
      Therefore, glory in this context is nonsense.

    • @bernardotorres4659
      @bernardotorres4659 Рік тому +1

      @@e.s.6275 Wars are terrible things and very undesirable , but they do occur , and they are unavoidable in spite of their undesirability and their terribleness.

  • @midnightteapot5633
    @midnightteapot5633 Рік тому +1

    This presentation is like an Osprey volume in video, and that is high praise.

  • @-MaxXxuS-
    @-MaxXxuS- Рік тому +2

    War of Spanish Succession was never forgotten in history... there is simply no reason for such a statement. All in all, great video, thanks!

    • @FieldMarshalYT
      @FieldMarshalYT  Рік тому +6

      Compared to other historical events, it gets very little coverage. There werent very many videos on it on YT before I started making them.

    • @-MaxXxuS-
      @-MaxXxuS- Рік тому +2

      @@FieldMarshalYT Thanks for reply. What I meant was that anyone who likes history has heard of this war or at minimum about battle of Blenheim or Malplaquet. If you are talking about normal people, 80% of them don't know when ww2 started...

  • @MmmGallicus
    @MmmGallicus Рік тому +2

    At 1:13, funny to see the Seine river flowing into the North sea just opposite of Dover.

  • @thebabylonian109
    @thebabylonian109 3 місяці тому

    This video belongs to the best of the best on UA-cam. Bravo!

  • @winterbalm
    @winterbalm Рік тому +2

    so romantic
    18th century, Beethoven, Mozart, organ music, colorful uniforms, men wearing powdered wigs and makeup, white stockings, three cornered hats

  • @timpatrick2109
    @timpatrick2109 Рік тому +3

    I think most major cigarette brands got their names from this war. The Duke of Marlboro. Troops moving Pell-Mell.

  • @ramananrampragash6790
    @ramananrampragash6790 Рік тому +6

    You mention in 19:43 that in 30 minutes over 5000 allied soldiers had been killed. But that is not correct. It is the Dutch army alone under the Prince of Orange who lost 5000 men in less than 30 mins since their initial assault on French positions. The overall allied losses were said to exceed over 20,000.

  • @alundavies1016
    @alundavies1016 21 день тому

    All I knew about Malplaquet was that it is the bane of the House in “Mistress Masham’s Repose” by TH White. Thank you for fleshing out that very thin skeleton for me.

  • @Briselance
    @Briselance Рік тому +3

    11:07
    What??! This is... saddening. How did they feel, knowing that they would kill each others in a few hours? How did the French feel, as they had cheer Boufflers (?) when he told them "we shall have no quarters and give none"?
    Truly, a sad sight.

  • @rhysnichols8608
    @rhysnichols8608 Рік тому

    Love the cheeky mount and blade Napoleonic wars voice line

  • @theschrotsman136
    @theschrotsman136 Рік тому

    What is the drum sound that is used in the intro? It is really good and I want to use it for my own stuff.

  • @TheLoyalOfficer
    @TheLoyalOfficer Рік тому +4

    Nice work but can you zoom out the maps a bit? It would be more useful to have a larger overview of the battle.

    • @FieldMarshalYT
      @FieldMarshalYT  Рік тому +2

      Yep! Ive kept this in mind in more recent videos

  • @brunodragas2417
    @brunodragas2417 2 роки тому +3

    Will there be a separate video about the time 1710.-1714. of the war?

  • @tbuxt3992
    @tbuxt3992 Рік тому +59

    Another of many French victories fighting outnumbered and against coalitions.

    • @FieldMarshalYT
      @FieldMarshalYT  Рік тому +15

      This was not a victory, albeit not exactly a defeat either.

    • @tbuxt3992
      @tbuxt3992 Рік тому +26

      @@FieldMarshalYT geopolitically, no, not a victory. Militarily, it was a victory. Defending against a numerically superior enemy, inflicting 2 to 3 times as many casualties, and retiring from a strategically insignificant field without incurring a route would absolutely be considered a victory in any military academy.

    • @CometTheProto
      @CometTheProto Рік тому

      @@tbuxt3992 “Militarily, it was a victory”
      In order to qualify as a military victory they would have had to stand their ground against the allied army, which they did not. Inflicting higher casualties is not enough to make Malplaquet a French victory.
      “Defending against a numerically superior enemy”
      Both the Allies and the French had about 90,000 men according to multiple historians. The main difference was that the French army was occupying a strong defensive position while the Allied army had to attack without the necessary numerical superiority required to guarantee a victory. The fact that the allies still managed to dislodge the French is an achievement in of itself, heavy casualties were inevitable.
      “Inflicting 2 to 3 times as many casualties”
      Most modern historians put the Allied losses at 20,000 and French losses at 17,000. Double casualties is already unbelievable enough, triple is ludicrous.
      “Retiring from a strategically insignificant field”
      Which for the allies enabled them to besiege Mons and later on besiege the other fortresses of Northern France while for the French it was just another source of casualties.
      “Would absolutely be considered a victory in any military academy”
      The battle which you’re describing would most likely be considered a tactical failure but an operational and strategic success for the retreating army in military academies. However, as I have made clear, none of the things you have described apply to the battle of Malplaquet.

    • @lahire4943
      @lahire4943 Рік тому +15

      @@CometTheProto
      You're obviously completely distorting reality.
      "In order to qualify as a military victory they would have had to stand their ground against the allied army"
      What counts is who was happy at the end of the day.
      "Both the Allies and the French had about 90,000 men according to multiple historians."
      Absolutely not. Most historians give the French between 70,000 and 80,000 men, the allies between 85,000 and 120,000 men.
      "Most modern historians put the Allied losses at 20,000 and French losses at 17,000. Double casualties is already unbelievable enough, triple is ludicrous."
      Here is where you lie. The consensus for French losses is between 8,000 to 12,000. It's been established. What you call "most historians" is two partisan Dutch historians. A voluntary lie. That's what's ludicrous. Allied casualties are estimated between 21 to 25,000 men. So not only double casualties is totally believable, but triple is possible too.
      Funnily you claim the allies didn't have the necessary strength to dislodge the French, but then you claim that them losing vastly more men is ludicrous. Lol.
      "Which for the allies enabled them to besiege Mons and later on besiege the other fortresses of Northern France while for the French it was just another source of casualties. "
      The allies' main objective was to take Paris and finally end the war. As a result of Malplaquet, not only would the allies never dream of taking Paris anymore, but they would never attack a French army on the battlefield for the remainder of the war. And you're saying "it was just another source of casualties." Ludicrous indeed.

    • @CometTheProto
      @CometTheProto Рік тому +7

      @@lahire4943 "What counts is who was happy at the end of the day"
      You're right, let's look at what Madame de Maintenon has to say about Louis XIV after news of the battle reached him:
      *"Sometimes he has a fit of crying that he cannot control, sometimes he is not well. He has no conversation."*
      "Absolutely not. Most historians give the French between 70,000 and 80,000 men, the allies between 85,000 and 120,000 men."
      Michael Clodfelter: 90,000 French
      Gaston Bodart: 90,000 French
      John Fortescue: "An equal number of French"
      No source I have ever come across mentioned 120,000 save for maybe the BritishBattles website (which FYI claimed that the French had just as many).
      "Here is where you lie. The consensus for French losses is between 8,000 to 12,000. It's been established. What you call "most historians" is two partisan Dutch historians. A voluntary lie. That's what's ludicrous. Allied casualties are estimated between 21 to 25,000 men. So not only double casualties is totally believable, but triple is possible too."
      The only source which mentions 8,000 casualties is Nicholson, who also provides no explanation whatsoever as to how they got that number, there is no bibliography. 12,000 is one of the lower estimates for the French and only counts killed and wounded. There were also 3,000 prisoners of war which have been excluded from the count. Other sources such as G.W.L. Nicholson put the French killed and wounded at 14,000, add 3,000 prisoners (Bodart's estimate for how many) and you get 17,000, which just so happens to be the numbers claimed by those "partisan Dutch historians" you speak so lowly of. Speaking of historians, may I know what credentials you yourself have to be charging those who have actually studied the subject with something as audacious as a voluntary lie? Especially when the figures given correlate with those given previously by older historians?
      As for the Allied losses, Clodfelter using allied records puts their count at about 24,000, this number just so happens to include 4,000 missing who would have rejoined their units (as is what usually happens in battles with victorious armies). 20,000.
      "Funnily you claim the allies didn't have the necessary strength to dislodge the French, but then you claim that them losing vastly more men is ludicrous. Lol."
      I said the allies didn't have the necessary strength to *guarantee victory,* not that they didn't have the necessary strength to dislodge the French. That comes entirely down to the performance of the commanders, who did in fact manage to dislodge them from that position with equal numbers. Them losing more men is an inevitability, losing triple is ludicrous. Pay attention.
      "The allies' main objective was to take Paris and finally end the war. As a result of Malplaquet, not only would the allies never dream of taking Paris anymore, but they would never attack a French army on the battlefield for the remainder of the war. And you're saying "it was just another source of casualties." Ludicrous indeed."
      Perhaps you can try explaining why if the allies could never dream of taking Paris, how over the course of the next two years, Marlborough and Eugene went on to capture five major fortresses in Northern France and come within one fortress (Quesnoy) of Paris itself before it all came tumbling down due to Marlborough's dismissal? As for "never attack a French army on the battlefield," that was due to Villars' own reluctance to accept battle and the fact that he had a perfectly good line of fortresses from which to defend Paris. He had multiple opportunities to fight a battle when the Allies were besieging Douai, Aire, Saint-Venant, and Bouchain, he took none of them and was instead outmaneuvered.
      "You're obviously completely distorting reality."
      Rather funny coming from someone who claimed Malplaquet stopped an allied advance on Paris when they calmly resumed their advance in 1710 and 1711.

  • @guypierson5754
    @guypierson5754 Рік тому +4

    Hey if you google the names of these leaders and locations, you can see a pronounciation guide. It's only a couple of minutes per name, and would really help with your videos, since it's very hard to take them seriously when people have negotiations at "The Hag" 😄

    • @FieldMarshalYT
      @FieldMarshalYT  Рік тому +4

      I guarantee you, you are not the only person who has brought up the issue of pronunciation.

  • @ludsl7136
    @ludsl7136 Рік тому +4

    Bravo, excellente vidéo sur une bataille mal connue. J'ai eu l'occasion de visiter le champ de bataille en 2010, La zone est finalement très petite au vu des effectifs engagés. La topographie a peu changé: bois et plaine et Il ne reste rien de visible. Un passionné avait créé un petit musée à Bavay mais il semble qu'il n'existe plus.
    Merci pour cette vidéo très détaillée

  • @johndoe-xv3yy
    @johndoe-xv3yy Рік тому +1

    Goes great with the book "The coronet of horse" by GA Henty

  • @Fatherofheroesandheroines
    @Fatherofheroesandheroines Рік тому +2

    This was one of those battles you just ask " why?""

  • @Urlocallordandsavior
    @Urlocallordandsavior 2 роки тому +1

    Commented for the algorithm.

  • @tonyhawk94
    @tonyhawk94 Рік тому +3

    The wars of Louis XIV already prefigured the push of Revolutionnary France eastward with the Kingdom / Empire fighting against european coalitions.

  • @JelMain
    @JelMain 3 місяці тому

    I love the YT voice transcription of Bourbons - Bull Balls. But then again, the AI voiceover it was transcribing got Cambrai wrong - Cambr-eh not Cambr-aye.

  • @d.mfrost6801
    @d.mfrost6801 Рік тому +2

    I watched this on a train, with sub titles, they must have been done by computer and not a human......

  • @oliviervece6121
    @oliviervece6121 6 місяців тому +1

    2° Ligne : 25 bat, 45 esc DEUXIEME LIGNE SEULEMENT
    Généraux : Son Altesse Royale Monseigneur le Duc deWürtemberg Général de la Cavalerie
    Lieutenants Généraux: Auerox, Bettendorf Efferen, Friesheim, Fenniger
    Majors Généraux :Cheuse, Horndorf, Canits, Sternefels, Darlburg, Dewitz
    Reysig Dragons 6esc. Impériaux
    Falkenstein Dragons 6 esc.Impériaux
    Helmstedt Dragons 4esc.Würtemberg
    Haen 3 esc. Palatins
    Hatzfeld 2esc.Palatins
    Fenninger Carabinier 3 esc. Palatins
    Fechenbach Infanterie 2 bat Würtzbourg *
    Dahlberrg Infanterie 1 bat. Würtzbourg *
    Tastungen Infanterie 1 bat. Würtzbourg *
    Grenadiers Gardes de Würtemberg 2 bat. Würtemberg *
    Herdans Infanterie 2bat. Würtemberg *
    Sternfels Infanterie 2bat. Würtemberg *
    Saxe Meiningen Infanterie 2 bat. Palatins
    Sultzbach Infanterie 1bat. Palatins
    Dillemburg Infanterie 1bat. Palatins
    Spiegel Infanterie 1bat. Hessois
    Exter Infanterie 1bat. Hessois
    Stukerad Infanterie 1bat. Hessois
    Wartensleben Infanterie 1bat. Hessois
    Furstenberg Infanterie 1bat. Saxons
    Weisenfels Infanterie 1bat. Saxons
    Chur Priz v. Sachsen 1bat. Saxons
    Vonstecken Infanterie 1bat. Danois
    Pretolius Infanterie 1bat. Danois
    Sponeck Infanterie 1bat. Danois
    Bielche Infanterie 1bat. Danois
    Milckow Dragons 4esc. Saxons
    Spiegel 2esc. Hessois
    Boinebourg 2esc. Hessois
    Auerox 4 esc. Hessois
    Cheuze 1esc. Danois
    Würtemberg 2esc. Danois
    Schmettau 2esc. Danois
    Juhl 2esc. Danois
    Würtemberg-Oels Dragons 2esc. Danois

  • @obsequiouscalumny4981
    @obsequiouscalumny4981 Рік тому +1

    The top musical artists were baroque composers like Bach and Handel. The violence of battles like these seems the opposite of the relaxing harpsichords, woodwinds and strings of a baroque ensemble.

  • @olavtryggvason1194
    @olavtryggvason1194 Рік тому +3

    What about the devastating battle of Kunersdorf 1759 where king Friedrich II lost most of his army ?

    • @FieldMarshalYT
      @FieldMarshalYT  Рік тому +1

      34,000 casualties at Kunersdorf vs 41,000 at Malplaquet. The numbers I used in this video are a bit outdated as it's more likely the French suffered 17,000 while the allies suffered moreso around 24,500.

    • @lahire4943
      @lahire4943 Рік тому +5

      @@FieldMarshalYT Your numbers are not outdated since the consensus of historians who studied the battle is of about 11,000 French casualties and 22-24,000 allied losses. Only one Dutch primary source claims 17,000 casualties. Also the deathtoll was largely superior at Malplaquet than at Kunersdorf.

  • @jgirlLVR
    @jgirlLVR Рік тому +1

    Interestingly, the toilets at Blenheim Palace are called the Malplaquet Outhouse.

  • @JohnEstenCooke398
    @JohnEstenCooke398 Рік тому +1

    This battle is almost like the 18th century version of Spotsylvania Court House

  • @iainclark5964
    @iainclark5964 8 місяців тому

    I like the factctheyvuse illustrations from the Osprey Campaign series book on this battle.

  • @LuqmanHM
    @LuqmanHM Рік тому +3

    I wished that you had used Napoleon Total War or Empire Total War to illustrate this battle

  • @chasechristophermurraydola9314
    @chasechristophermurraydola9314 2 роки тому +3

    Just saying but I enjoyed every second and minute of this video and just saying but I would say that this battle in my opinion is the Antietam of the 18th century.

    • @FieldMarshalYT
      @FieldMarshalYT  2 роки тому +1

      I'd refer to the Prince of Orange's attack on the French right as the "Pickett's Charge" of this war. Definitely my favorite battle of the period to study.

    • @chasechristophermurraydola9314
      @chasechristophermurraydola9314 2 роки тому

      @@FieldMarshalYT oh okay.

    • @lionelhutz5137
      @lionelhutz5137 2 роки тому +2

      Marlborough: "Prince, see to your division"
      Prince of Orange: "Sir, I have no division!"

  • @williamreymond2669
    @williamreymond2669 Рік тому +1

    The Allied attack on the Bois de Sars reminds me rather of the Battle of Cold Harbor a hundred and fifty years later.

  • @Albukhshi
    @Albukhshi Рік тому

    @ 4:00
    I'm not surprised: Villars is in charge--a man they knew and trusted.
    @ 4:35
    Any worse, and he'd be hurling the trigonometric function Cos(M)

  • @thomaslinton5765
    @thomaslinton5765 Рік тому +3

    ThePrince of Savoy was a Savoyard, not German, much less a German heavy crusier - "You gene."