Rubber Tracks on Tanks - Are they worth it?
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Should rubber band tracks replace metal tracks on tanks and armored fighting vehicles? I have been skeptical in the past but now I am starting to come round to the idea...
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Remember, if you need protection wear rubber
Can you get glow in the dark ones ??..
Ian Farr-Wharton
You can
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How the hell isthat gona stop a bulet?
Oh I get it
Really appreciated the footage of a rubber track field repair. It's really good to know that they can sometimes be patched. Segmented rubber seems like a likely alternative to band, but regardless, it seems not as bad as one would expect.
I used to be a commander on one of the Danish army M113 G4´s with rubber track and my experience is that it is a love hate relationsship (especially on slippery slopes)
Did they have any track attachments to help with those slopes? Like little screw on spikes like the ones on track/ cross country spikes? Ofc it wouldn’t be as good as metal tracks but might help solve the issue in a shorter period of time.
They are super useful for when you dont want to make the main street look like a crazy man used a jackhammer as a pogo stick. In combat probably not the best idea.
Correction - maybe not the best in heavy combat or if you dont have a good stockpile of spares. Otherwise they seem rather awesome.
Love seeing al the turretless cv90's
They actually worked great for us, much less problems from the vehicles running "rubbers" and everyone much preferred them while I was in Syria.
VAC2 Aww that is cool where you operating tanks over there.
No but everyone knew what one you got in if you had a choice.
VAC2 Oh that is neat
Rubber band tracks have advantages and disadvantages.
Advantages:
-On support misisons, you don't trash their infrastructure (roads) as bad as you do with steel tracks (even with rubber pads).
-As mentioned, quieter and less vibration inside the vehicle. However that can also be solved with a decoupled running gear (requires a new vehicle though).
-Lighter, however again, modern steel tracks also have significantly better weight effincency. DST's DLT 464D steel track is 40% lighter than a Leopard 1 steel track, while having the same durability.
Disadvantages:
-Rubber band tracks aren't as robust, thus they can't handle as high vehicle weights as steel tracks do. The rubber tracks used on the CV90 are only qualified for a relatively low maximum weight of 35 metric tons. The tracks used ASCOD 2 for only 38 tons or less. The ASCOD 2 version used by the british (AJAX Scout-SV) is heavier, thus requires steel tracks. So no, you won't see AJAX, Puma, T-15, Namer or even MBTs with rubber tracks.
-Durability is lower. On steel tracks you simply change the rubber pads, if you use them without it (only steel, so called 'combat track'), it is MUCH more durable than rubber anyways.
I think the biggest problem is the landmine
Another some disavantages: rubber dry and became brittle, and some chemicals (acetone) can dissolve or at least damage the rubber
That question is relatively simple
But you do have greater traction on stuff like tarmac and concrete surfaces compared to steel tracks
Steel tracks with rubber pads have pretty much the same traction as tracks made entirely of rubber. However the steel tracks can also be fitted with spike pads that enhance traction in snow drastically (you can see those spike pads at the turret backside of many nothern Leopard 2 versions, as example the danish or swedish version. They look like the rubber pads, but are made from steel and with an 'X' shaped spike on it). In case of a all-out war, they run the tanks without rubber pads at all, on steel. The performance on road is slightly reduced while in terain it enables even more traction.
had the rubber track on my TLAV in Afghanistan. worked well for me but I never got detracked. Not really repairable by the crew in the field. they were wider than the standard m113 tracks which made them better in the mud. track maintenance at the user level is almost nothing They are reasonably durable too I ran over a PMN landmine and it didn't do too much at all to the track. an anti-tank mine would knock them off probably. I'd say overall they are good as long as you have the logistics to deal with the difficult repairs. I'll have to keep an eye on the segmented rubber tracks. That should mitigate one of the largest downsides.
I see more pros here than cons.
Excellent summary. You fairly much hit the nail on the head with respect to my own thinking. In my experience, the M113 is a noisy uncomfortable vehicle at the best of times and I can really see the comfort benefit in putting rubber tracks on a lighter vehicle, such as this. I found your comments on vibration interesting, because I can't say that I ever experienced this problem in the Leopard 1. While I certainly felt the vibration, I never found it uncomfortable, or felt that I wanted it to stop. Mind you, I hated those occasions when I had to crew the M113 for this very reason and because the suspension was terrible.
But the issue of sharp stone terrain is significant. When on exercise in Australia's Northern Territory (which seems to be mostly made up of sharp rocks) with the Leopards, we had to replace our brand new rubber track pads within two weeks of arriving and then again on return after completion of the one month exercise. I'd hate to think of what this kind of terrain would have done to rubber tracks. I am curious to know whether the vehicles in Afghanistan encountered this type of terrain and if so, how they fared.
Thing is that you don't get to chose the ground on which you are deployed, so my thoughts are better safe than sorry. Stick with known technology with all AFVs until the rubber track can demonstrate that it can reliably handle whatever conditions are thrown at it. Maybe Norway can test some of their vehicles in the NT! :-)
Also, I don't think that it would have made much difference if that bridgelayer had been equipped with rubber tracks. You undoubtedly have a better understanding of the physics than I, but the issue there seems to be that you had a heavy tracked vehicle pivoting on an rough surface, which had poor adhesion to the underlying road foundation. I never did the Special Equipment Course, and can't remember how much the bridge layer weighs but IIRC it is significantly greater than the Leopard's 42 tons and when you are a cobblestone road, this has gotta hurt, irrespective of what the tracks are made of.
The problem at 8:12 is not the cobblestone, its the tank. Ive seen a 42 ton truck drive across cobblestone.
Tanks are fucking nightmares to road construction.
It comes down to perspective:
Tanker: Who the fuck puts cobbles down outside a fuckin barracks?!
Road maintenance: FUCKING TANKERS!
See? The problem changes based on perspective :D
I agree with the first one but most of the cobblestone paths were made before the creation of the tank, let alone car or truck.
yes and it was more like parade as he said? they were driving through old town to show their shit off
Shouldn't track pads help prevent road destruction with tracked vehicles?
Problem is ground pressure is focused down onto a very narrow area.
I was taught years ago that rubber pads in tank tracks were used in peace time to stop roads being chewed up and that in war they would simply not be replaced.
As ex CVRT, Chieftain & Chally crewman I must say if we had the segmented rubber tracks back then it would have made track bashing reasonably enjoyable :)
Geoff Smith thanks for your service buddy!
Geoff Smith Rubber existed around ww2 but THE japanese cut off our supply so we made synthetic rubber.
Loved track bashing on Chieftain;-) Especially in Soltau
Mary Dominguez These are '70s era vehicles, not WW2. Also the power to drive a class 60 vehicle would shred rubber track
LOL
Very professional and enlighting piece of work, it's always good to receive the imput from those with hands on experience. Thnaks for the good work mate.
What I really like about your videos is that you are open for perspectives that are not your own and go about it in a relatively objective manner.
Very good video with talk from actual experiance to back it up, love it.
In the 1980's I was involved with the Leopard 1 improved main battle tanks. For us, rubber tracks meant peace-time tracks to save the roads. Almost all movement over public roads was still done with FTF low boy carriers. When activated, all our tanks would change over to steel tracks.
We never had a track failure that I remember and the ride was smooth without vibrations. Not so for our YPR personnel carriers which shook the fillings from our teeth.
p.s., in Germany we won the tank trophy with our old tanks from Leopard 2 and the Abrams tanks with their cheap smooth bore cannons :-)
rubber tracks on a leopard? or do you mean steel tracks with rubber pads on them!!!???
My Father was involved in the Testing of Armored vehicles pre WWII. The track system most of the crews wanted was the Christy system. He was also part of the transition from all metal to rubberized tracks, Dad preferred the rubberized tracks. I wish he were alive so I could ask him about the tracks on the halftrack.I think they a form of rubber track with spring steel molded into the rubber. Rubber tracks overall should be an improvement, depending on the ability of the track to absorb battle damage and then be repaired in the field.
The track used on the U.S. halftracks was a single piece "Rubber-Band" with steel cables running the length(circumfrence), similar to how a steel belt is laid in a tire. Later versions made by the Israelis used stainless steel cable, as once the rubber is cracked, it's very easy for water to wick up in the cables and corrode/weaken them.
www.militaryfactory.com/imageviewer/ar/pic-detail.asp?armor_id=71&sCurrentPic=pic11
Yes, those are crossplates, there are steel cables running the circumference that provide the trnsion to the "band". Hunnicutt's book on the development of U.S. half and semi-tracks has far more on the subject than I can put here.
John Rodrigues: They were molded with spring steel, this made the M3 halftrack faster than German and French halftracks of similar weight, very foreward thinking for 1940.
jgranger3532 pity the army resisted the development of a heavy tank. Could have saved thousands of lives. Aviation gas and and shrapnel are a bad combination. The lead Sherman took an 8.8cm round through the front and into the engine near Brest, in my Dad's company. Five men were turned hamburger with that hit.
Nice informative video...the main issue as you rightly pointed out is the tensioning method..its critical to the whole operation of the rubber track.
Well, Segmented rubber tracks are way to go. the section won't expand as much as a full track belt because it will be supported by its linkages if they are made up some durable metals. The Tracks can be made with some fiber steel meshing mixed in with the rubber that can help make the track sturdy enough to deal with thermal dynamics. So you won't need a hydraulic system to keep the track tight. Just an old-fashioned track tension wheel that the US M47's had in the back to make sure the track stayed when clearing obstacles low and high speed, but Later remove because of better track and suspension designs. All and all I'm sold on the rubber tracks.
I agree. It's not like this a new technology still in it's infancy, they've been using segmented, fortified rubber conveyor-belts in the mining-industry forever, and those things are designed to take a beating 24 hours a day. And a lot of those conveyors nowadays have fully automated systems that can repair/replace damaged segments and regulate the tension, implement that on a tank and you're one step closer to not needing a tank-crew at all.
"implement that on a tank and you're one step closer to not needing a tank-crew at all."
.... HERESEY! BURN THE HERETIC!
lol Hey! if we can get a car to drive on its own, a tank is no different. Well maybe by a few tons more, but it is still possible. :)
Omega Zer0 I think I might be more comfortable with self-driving cars now that I think about it though... seeing as my Toyota probably won't/can't murder us all once it becomes self-aware :)
It'll be interesting to keep on eye on this stuff in the coming years as new composites are developed.
Hey Matsimus. I'm designing my light tank at the moment and your video is very useful for me and for the discussion with other experts on this question. :)
One benefit to rubber tracks is also a dramatic speed increase.
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You know that steel has way more heat expansion than rubber? In other words, different temperatures should have less effect on rubber tracks staying on than with steel tracks.
I think the way forward will be segmented rubber tracks so that you can repair them in field conditions. Some steel and kevlar to strenghten the structure just like in tyres and it should be durable enough even for MBT.
Rubber sectional tracking is mainly limited by the weight it can carry, and how it behaves on very rocky terrain. (cutting/punching/taking a permanent set). It will be a while before you see sectional rubber/composite tracks replacing steel tracks on armor heavier than ~25 tons.
Kevlar is neat stuff, but using it in an application like a section of track is not good. It is hydrophilic, meaning you could suffer nasty delaminations when the outer rubber is cut to where the cord/plies are exposed, in cold/freezing weather.
In case of rubber you probably wouldnt be worrying about heat expansion (rubber contracts when heated) but how its elasticity is affected.
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/app.1984.070291118/abstract
You adjust the track tension as needed. Use to be on rubber track m113 in the CAF
Isn't there any steel cables to hold it together, like in garden size excavators?
You also expanded my point of view, couldn't expect that I'll take the rubber seriously. Good vid
Good video Matsimus. The first use of "rubber band" tracks that I can remember was the US M-3 half-track in WWII.
looks like CASIO G-SHOCK watch band.
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St. Vick lol nah. Mongs are not accepted
I been wanting to know this but what does Mong mean. Like I know it means an idiot but why is it called Mong
Hey..Matt, at moment 1:34, was that U, in person?? If that was, ma'an U look so much like H.R.H. Prince Harry.
St. Vick Or a Pro Gamer
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Here's a thought.
Implement the basic design of airless-tire on the outer rim of road wheels and use the same design principle to upgrade solid rubber pads into more elastic, comfortable rubber pads.
It should shred weight off tanks and also save money to purchase entire new tracks.
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The first part reminds me of some of the things professors at the university I attended were working on for the Army. Ever since the US military went to all volunteer they have been making more and more investments in human factors studies. The short term benefits are retention since soldiers are not being discharged for medical reasons relating to back and joint injuries which means less need to increase incentives to raise numbers. Long term the benefits are less severe back and joint injuries later in life. So even if rubber tracks cost more the cost to replace an infantryman can be substantial between the need for incentives, such as signing bonuses, GI Bill costs, training costs all adds up. Also losing a soldier with specialty training to being discharged for preventable injuries can have an impact on combat readiness and effectiveness of a group that is avoidable.
nice video of the bronco 2 at the end. i operated the previous model during my active days. yes changing the rubber track during maintenance was a daylight nightmare and throwing a track out in the field was worse.
Great video! Segmented rubber tracks sounds like a good idea, assuming that terrain/weather conditions will not cause major problems.
I've been waiting for this video to come out. I didn't know much about rubber tracks ,besides rubber track pads. I was surprised to see how good they are. My main problem with them is the track repair, having them in chunks seems easier to repair than getting a whole new tread. Rubber has a low melting point than most metal. so if someone stuck a bottle of highly flammable liquid on the track and light it on fire. Would melt the tracks giving you a bad time. I'm guessing it would to take to long to burn through or its not a realistic example of it happening in combat. Imagine how bad it would smell if a tank was to catch on fire and burned for awhile. but hey now you got a good signal smoke.
Expansion should not be an issue, perhaps they will make different types to deal with hot, mediate and cold weather though, so that with some segmentation seems to be a good step to the future. Reducing noise outside of a tactical advantage is very important to the crew inside as constant noise and vibrations are tiresome, having less of that seems to me would allow the crew to remain at their best for longer.
Anyhow just my thoughts on this I aint no expert on any of this.
A tank designed for rubber tracks could have an automatic tensioner that makes it a non-issue. Retrofitting to a tank designed for metal tracks, with an external manual tensioner, might be a huge issue. Such is the nature of retrofits though.
Mostly you hear engine noise first. At least for MBT:s
Hi - great vid (again) - if those rubber band tracks are anything like the old Airfix ones, you can join them with a hot screwdriver... Also, covering your tank with pieces of rubber track makes it show up less on sonar..
Are there any track technologies out there that have steel tracks "coated" with rubberband tracks?
Do a video on the TR85M1
Attempt no.3. I will not stop unless I get an answer or I see the video.
I love your channel and I would like to see some love towards my country's military, and maybe get some more information on my favourite tank if you find anything interesting about it, which I havent heard of already. Keep up the good work.
ParaBellum only the gun its weak at that tank
Vémundr romanians modified , and modified the t55 , and now they have this , its modernized but only , only the gun is weak
Vémundr we had 4-5 versions by now
You: T90 its just a t55 with a different look
ParaBellum these tanks still can destroy a abrams or t90 , so its not so bad , who says communism saved countryes and made them better , theyre fucking idiots
Great video
Absolutely love your channel
I was the driver of Norways new CV90 with the rubber band tracks 1,5 year ago. There were a lot of upsides, but we had a lot of problems too. Hard to compare as I haven't driven one with steel tracks, but I could share further pros and cons, other than those in the video.
Ok, I'm no tank expert but I can put 2 and 2 together and figure out that neutral steering an already heavy Leopard with an entire bridge on its back on a cobbled road is a stupid idea
They did that on purpose to prove a point. I drove my M60A3 and M1A1 on many cobblestone roads and motorpools without any damage. (2 tours [4.25years total] in W. Germany) Look closely, you will see that there was a significant "pothole" or whatever you wish to call it where the cobbles were already coming loose. They CHOSE THAT SPOT to neutral steer. This is not coincidental. Cobbles rely on there interlocking properties to give them strength.
So they pretty much destroyed a large chunk of this walkway/road just because they could?
Yes, The road was already slated for repair. It was made into a "public service announcement of sorts. also, cobbles are reused. they will simply come in, pull out all the disturbed stones, lay, smooth and compact the sand and gravel underpayment then re-set (place, wedge install or whatever have you) the original cobbles. It is actually a very durable (if not smooth or high traction) road surface. I have destroyed German roads before, nearly every time by accident of mishap (in my M60A3) only once did I wreck a chunk on purpose, an old lady would throw rotten food at me when I walked past her house to buy Brochen and meat from the metzgeri (My german is a bit rusty) so I got "Babe the Blue rubbing up against the curb (curbs in Germany are made from roughly 1 meter long pieces of granite laid into the ground) then steered as hard as I could. Threw three section up into the yard. Felt like a jerk afterward, until I pulled that uniform out to wash it, the smell caused me to decide to throw it away instead. It was close to unserviceable anyway.
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You will always remember the sound of the metals tracks because of your tinnitus ringing away.
What is the name of that self propelled artillery vehicle at 5:16 ?
I guess if you don't want to go around ripping up local city streets.
DAMMIT MAT, LET ME SLEEP FOR ONCE!!
I heard about the rubber perform worst than steel track on snow/ice surface in WW2 so do those rubber track we have today still have that issue?
Good day I would like to know where buy machine to make rubber tank track thanks
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there's a link, that links directly to his discord chat group, just talk to him through that.
Max Dahlin Murphy thanks for the help
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Hey that sad video music at the beginning is also used by Jabzy. I asked him once and he answered but I forgot what he told me. What is it?
Don't play around with rubber tracks, get to work on hover tanks!!!
MrKalashnik0va the answer is recoilless rifles
The amount of energy required to hover would ludicrous without some sort of antigravity matter which would be a game changer in pretty everything.
this covers some hover tank problems if i remember right.
ua-cam.com/video/KfgifHh5R4Y/v-deo.html
Sromotny Kobziarz The amount of energy required to hover a vehicle, especially one as heavy as a tank is ludicrous. They would burn so much fuel you could not operate them.
Recoil of the weapons would be a concern, these tanks would produce massive amounts of noise. Control would be somewhat questionable.
Bob Lob Law That’s when you just drift over the enemy sideways if you can’t take them out with your main gun. It’ll be like ten pin bowling.
American half tracks had band tracks in WWII. FYI.
U mean M3 Halftrack? its still has steel on it
The American half-tracks of World War Two had wire band tracks covered with rubber, so that all you see from the outside is rubber. And that applies to ALL American Half-tracks, not just the M3.
The latest rubber band tracks all have metal in them too.
I always enjoy your videos and the information you provide, but for some reason I always wondered, after seeing a WW II halftrack, why they weren't used more on modern armor. Especially with all the different and exotic rubber and core materials in use or development.
very informative and a great video!
During war time or active service, id still prefer the steel tracks.mainly because I don't think the rubber bands would hold up against a high velocity projectile like steel would...That bit of "extra armour" .
matt gratton flashback to Warthunder tracks blocking a 120mm AP round :/
Given the penetration value of modern weapons, I really don't think "extra armour" is a real life thing...
bandholm
In fact, some WWII German testing showed that, supposedly, tracks as addon armor actually made penetration easier to a degree because they were soft, and allowed the shells to bite in more, unlike the hard-faced armor plates.
Warriorcat49 that would actually make more sense too.
Never mind being hit directly and squarely by a 120mm APFSDS, they usually show up to the party with friends and obviously that's going to be the end of your war. The real question is which type of track will stand up the best to the tank running over a IED or anti tank mine.
4:22 oouuh you really butchered the name Hägglunds there xD.
Yeah, hes shit with languages and names.
Many native english speakers are for some reason.
long live the fiberglass wonder!
#Bandvagnlivesmatter ;)
@@martialme84 its because native english speakers primary language is ENGLISH. Ive heard people with english as their second language pronounce english words totally wrong
Great review and comments!
Great Topic you picked there ! Gives me much to think about too. Well i did some times because im Serving on the Leopard 2 and yes... on our german range roads its terrible with the steel tracks. But i cant really imagine a 62t mbt running on rubber. It might be a good and game changing technology but still a bit awkward. For afv´s n Example Puma or Marder it is a Very good choice.
Tension is the point i am a bit concerned of. But great upload again ;) gives me something to think about this evening. Cheers from Germany
I don’t care what kind of tracks it has, I just want a tank.
You can get a used one for less than 100K on the inter-webs :p
Cameron Foord where are you gonna put it though?
Quadeer Cherma I bet your neigbour would let you use his driveway if you ask nicely ;)
SonsOfLorgar lol
Ajaxarmoured
Hirmh... What about rubber encased metallic track? Perhaps something light like aluminium? Best of both worlds?
The rubber would be harder than the aluminum.
Interesting how early Norway was at adopting the rubber tracks, yes the Danes joined them after 6 years but i still feel like that is a while.
Norway has a very high focus on health and safety in everything so im not surprised actually, but interesting to see nonetheless.
Good video man! Enjoyed it
Do you think this also has an implication in a mined area? do rubberet tracks change the preassure footprint enough?
Your extra and erroneous use of "inherently" is grating...
Besides that, nice video.
douglasg14b the fact you have a mine craft avatar is also grating :-) but thanks for the feedback
Are they all just solid rubber or do they have any internal steel belt or similar?
What's the vehicle that looks like It has a trailer called? The last vehicle shown in the video.
very informational, thank you :)
About this, i saw some 1950s tank prototypes with air core tires. Is that any good??
how does an HE round or a rpg shot at the tracks area affect the rubber track like i dont know much about tanks just curiosaty
Hey matsimus do you think modern MBTs should retain the hull machine gunner's position?
Your b-roll was on point.
This is amazing! I enjoy these inovations in AFVs.
The only thing needed in your video is a good audio clip of what it sounds like. Interested to know what a rubber tracked vehicle actually sounds like as it is screaming past. The roar of a diesel without the clack clack clack? I wanna know hehehe
Nice&fair pro/contra spot on this technical topic. I would agree to see those on more vehicles, but i could imagen it on MBTs if ther's enough steelwire into to make it shred be enemy fire, but possibly not infunctional to further carry the tank. It would be a problem if we're still in a time where tanks love to crush through buildings and solid obstacles, buuuut, guess at last so far off this that we can rate the combat value with rubber bands higher then metal tracks.
Are there no hybrid designs, metal frames with rubber inserts linked together by soft-bushed linkages?
Hmm, any opinions on new UK army recruitment video?
great vid man
Any reason for not making rubber tracks in module pieces like matel tracks? So it solves repair problem.
You earned a sub cool vid matsimus 👌
The segmented rubber track sounds very promising. BTW, wouldn't it be possible to cut used tires and screw the pieces to the outside of a steel track to get the best of both worlds?
Is it true that the new m1a3 will be equipped with rubber tracks as a measure to save wheight
Matsimus.. I really enjoy your engaging informative vids.. you are my go to guy on weapons systems..
I understand that you are a ex-tanker guy (REME).. I had several pals in REME in the early 70s served at Padderbon sp?
also my grandfather was a World War One tanker (driver) and was in several battles from the 1st Somme onwards (they used to move the tanks to various battles). so he was in several battles injured 3 times and each time patched up and sent back!
I have an amazing photo of my grandfather with his tank crew mates taken after the Aug 8th 1918 Battle of Amiens.. 8 men - two British (driver and officer) and 6 Australians.. he is sitting the ground with the regimental goat between his crossed legs..
I wonder do you know anything about tanks in these late WW1 battles? hope you do :-)
If you have a continuous band track and throw a track, how do you get it back on?
You make mention of the M114 of the 70's that used rubber tracks. I remember going to the field at Ft Lewis with 24 of them and by the time they had gone 10 miles half were on the side of the road with thrown tracks.
Cool, metal tracks looks great in an image kind of way, but maybe this is the future for most use.
does the vibration effect helicopter crew as well?
An interesting show would be a steel vs rubber tyres comparison!
Very informative!
cool man, that's a good presentation.
Great channel more power
It's not just crew who benefit from the smoother ride of rubber. It's all the electronics that need to be beefed up and protected from vibes.
That means you can use more sensitive equipment like, night vision, sights, IR etc, or extend service life of current equipment with less failure and lower maintenance demands. I think those cost and time savings will swing it in favour of rubber (or is it Kevlar?).
Thank you for your service sir
If the rubber track is completely severed in a combat situation how do you repair it in a timely manner? There doesn’t look to be any links that are interchangeable
Have you, in your career heard anything from german tank crews how bad the vibration is in the leo 2 for example?
Im planning on signing up in september but still gathering all sorts of information.
i was a leopard 2a4 / 2a5 gunner ..... i can still feel the vibration many years later ;)
in the terrain you hardly notice, but the more solid the ground gets ..... , the worse is at low speed on concrete, you feel every damned pad
but all that annoying stuff gets forgotten when you pull that trigger :P
Drove an m113 with rubber tracks in the norwegian army 10 years ago, had very few issues with them except for the occational debelting.
What's the name of the afv in the thumbnail?
We (Can) used ARTHUR (Counter Bty Rdr) on a BV chassis in Afg in 04. No issues on rough terrain however we flatbeded them on long road moves because of vibration / wear at speed with the addition weight of the rdr. Also worked on ADATS which had both steel and rubber track during it's lifecycle. The electronics really benefit from the rubber, moreso than the Troops.. I'd never thought of the long term health effects from many years in track veh; time to contact Veterans Affairs :) . Another advantage is the rubber trk doesn't p/u 10% of the crap a steel track does. We caught razor/ concertina wire on a steel track in Germany, stopped us in very short order and removing it was hell.. Yes, go all rubber.
It seems like in modern urban warfare tanks often spend a lot of time on roadways going between locations or out on payroll.
Wouldn’t it be possible to create a modular system that could attach to the underside or each corner of a tank that would have tires on electric motor hubs that could be lowered for traversing smooth roadways and raised for terrain?
Could even power the electric hubs from the tanks engine and reduce fuel consumption on smooth roads.
Make the failsafe position be retracted so it they fail the tank can simply use its tracks.
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