No, Mastodon Will Not Replace Twitter

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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Twitter Disaster Recap
    03:28 The Mastodon Exodus
    04:45 Why Twitter Isn't Worth Replacing
    07:04 How Mastodon is Different
    10:06 What Mastodon is Trying to Do
    10:54 Outro
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  • @WolfgangsChannel
    @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому +102

    A small correction: By default, Mastodon has a 500 character limit for posts, not 5000. However, every instance can set its own limit, and tilde.zone has set it to 5000 characters.
    Correction 2: Twitter did turn a profit in 2018 and 2019 (thank you @peacegiant !)
    Correction 3: Twitter was not running a dev build in prod, they were just using internal source maps (thank you @Noah !) nitter.net/wongmjane/status/1591129204422500354

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому +23

      That’s not a “correction”, you just don’t understand how federation works.
      If many people decide to cut out a shitty person from their lives, that’s not because they have a monolithic hivemind. This is also the case on Mastodon - there are instances that are blocked by many servers because of posting CP, gore, etc. and the fact that admins don’t do anything to stop it.
      That being said, if you don’t like the moderation on one instance, you can always move to another. Nobody is forcing independent instances to block certain servers, and there are plenty of "free speech" instances that don't block anyone whatsoever and have no content moderation.
      P.S. Please show me the exact place where the Mastodon source code is “poisoned”

    • @Winium
      @Winium Рік тому +2

      Thanks for the correction especially about Twitter profitability. But it really reflects poorly that you didn't even research well. Fortunately, it's not a main talking point, but I've seen this misinformation from many UA-camrs.
      Re: content moderation. Mods power trip a lot. A lot a lot. I have negative faith in community moderation efforts.

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому +5

      I would rather have 'community' mods power trip over one instance, than some kind of a shadow moderators committee power trip over the whole platform that hosts millions of users.

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому +1

      Would you mind pointing me to the exact place in the codebase though? It shouldn't be hard to find, since GitHub keeps pretty much the entire code history.

    • @sleepywagie8193
      @sleepywagie8193 Рік тому +1

      @@WolfgangsChannel its funny how such power trips only happened on Twitter before Elon came in (bots excluded)

  • @pedroseba8753
    @pedroseba8753 Рік тому +191

    Twitter legitimately contributed to my depressive thoughts during the pandemic. It was a constant cycle of logging in, scrolling, getting mad and sad, scorlling, and then going to sleep. Its scary how optimized it is to make you angry and to make you feed that anger. Glad im no longer on that platform.

    • @AssistDesAnzeigenhauptmeisters
      @AssistDesAnzeigenhauptmeisters Рік тому +10

      Totally that. Spent too many years there with people full of psychological problems. When I finally deleted it I felt so much better and I'm way more productive since then. People who read that really should consider deleting it.

    • @pedroseba8753
      @pedroseba8753 Рік тому +2

      @@AssistDesAnzeigenhauptmeisters it can be very hard for some people to get off

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 Рік тому +1

      I left it about five years ago and haven't missed it - also quit Facebook two years ago for a number of reasons but "the straw that broke the camel's back" were members of my own family going "antivax" and plastering their nonsense over Facebook.
      Fortunately, I still have a good relationship with those family members because I "turned off" their nonsense rather than reacting to it, and now we just don't talk about certain things when we meet up in real life.
      Both Twitter and Facebook are cesspits - and LinkedIn is simply a "cattle market" for middle managers and marketing people to parade themselves up and down in front of their bosses and recruitment consultants. All they ever do is post pictures of sunset beaches overlaid with a clever quote by a dead person that, in life, was a lot smarter than they are.

    • @AssistDesAnzeigenhauptmeisters
      @AssistDesAnzeigenhauptmeisters Рік тому +3

      @@pedroseba8753 Yes it was hard for me too. I guess it helps a lot to begin with being more social in real life. Like meeting more with friends so you don't miss the social component of twitter

    • @neverlookback1244
      @neverlookback1244 Рік тому +1

      Same here but now I only follow my favorite sports teams

  • @TheMinigato
    @TheMinigato Рік тому +42

    Limiting the amount of characters forces you to omit info and makes misunderstandings more likely

    • @ODUBlue
      @ODUBlue Рік тому +1

      🎯

    • @jamesboyle6784
      @jamesboyle6784 Рік тому

      How much research did you do before making this video? Not much I think

    • @garethfairclough8715
      @garethfairclough8715 Рік тому +2

      It also forces you to actively think about how to condense your thoughts, and makes you think more about them in general.

    • @thmooove
      @thmooove 6 місяців тому

      learning to make concise and clear posts is definitely a skill

  • @xuldevelopers
    @xuldevelopers Рік тому +43

    Well structured, good ratio of wit and information. Nice video. Correct length. I managed to watch it at once. Which is good considering my short attention span. Good job.

  • @Mitsunee_
    @Mitsunee_ Рік тому +40

    "Everything's displayed in chronological order - how it's supposed to be"

  • @JM-tj5qm
    @JM-tj5qm Рік тому +42

    I like Mastodon, I'm glad is getting new people. But yeah, it isn't Twitter. Some people are worried a bunch of toxic people are going to get into Mastodon, I don't really worry about that, they will eventually move into bad instances or quit the platform entirely.

    • @Tark_
      @Tark_ Рік тому +7

      A lot of bad people were there before it got popular recently

    • @thereddrob
      @thereddrob Рік тому +15

      hi, I am toxic and bad, and you two have just convinced me to take my toxicity to masterdon

    • @JM-tj5qm
      @JM-tj5qm Рік тому +7

      @@thereddrob What's good about decentralisation is that there is a place for you too. So, Welcome.

  • @FabianZettl
    @FabianZettl Рік тому +45

    Avril Lavigne is the most random example.

  • @HannesTrapp
    @HannesTrapp Рік тому +29

    I think Twitter usage/setup might be a bit easier than Mastodon, but the complexity of choosing your Mastodon instance compares to the complexity of choosing your email service, which is something people also managed over the last 25 years.

    • @YellingSilently
      @YellingSilently Рік тому +2

      The problem is that you are not joining a community when you make a Hotmail or Gmail account. If you are not on an instance, you can watch another's "Local" feed, and you can respond to a thread on the server, but you cannot post a thread on the remote server. Choosing which instance you want to make home has too much consequence. There is a real problem that is not being addressed here.

  • @UnixOath
    @UnixOath Рік тому +24

    Agreed, Mastodon is supposed to be a communication platform with microblogging vibes for building a niche community, not just a content-consuming machine.
    We don't need Mastodon to replace Twitter tho, Mastodon is not commercialized and should keep that way. Speaking of the fediverse, would like to see if you make an entire video about it?
    Also the real Chad makes their own blogging website and forum built from scratch (or use any existing free and open source framework such as Hugo and Discourse).

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 Рік тому

      Your last point is similar to the "destroy the evil record companies and let the artists sell their own music online" argument - that is, "nice in theory" but when many people simultaneously are clamoring for your attention to "buy my music" or "use my blogging forum", it all gets lost is a cacophony of noise.
      The idea is sound but unlikely to work in the real world.

    • @UnixOath
      @UnixOath Рік тому +1

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 is it wrong for being independent at least?

    • @UnixOath
      @UnixOath Рік тому +1

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 wait I do remember you from that "How Linux respects your privacy" video. Fancy meeting here stranger.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 Рік тому

      @@UnixOath "wait I do remember you from that "How Linux respects your privacy" video. Fancy meeting here stranger."
      It's really of no interest to me whether you remember me or not - I guess we both like Linux and just "hang around" in Linux channels, the chances are we will cross paths occasionally.

    • @UnixOath
      @UnixOath Рік тому

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 alright that's fine, just saying.

  • @AklemTech
    @AklemTech Рік тому +23

    Hot take: I know its hard to imagine but the way I use and experience Twitter is completely different to your experience and for me, it would be a shame to lose it.

    • @ilikenicethings
      @ilikenicethings Рік тому +4

      I agree and it annoys me to see so many people claiming that it’s totally ok if twitter disappeared. I can understand if there are people that don’t like it. But I have had positive experiences with it mostly. I learn things and engage with philosophers, authors, scientists, and others in a way that is different from any other medium. I don’t want to “move away” from twitter because I don’t see other options as being “the same” or even similar enough to do so. Over the years, I have had evolving opinions about twitter and I haven’t always appreciated it the way that I do now.

    • @GiuseppeColaneri7
      @GiuseppeColaneri7 Рік тому

      because that's the main narrative. Social media works on engagement, it's true, but you have some leverages to control it: the first part is choosing who to engage with (if you engage with toxic people, you'll see more toxic content); second part is to hide the toxic people. But it's way easier it seems to give all the agency to one person setting up a Mastodon instance and see if you like it.

  • @bigboyart1
    @bigboyart1 Рік тому +3

    I've tried Mastodon. It doesn't fill that same niche and feeling that Twitter does. I like how Twitter's search function works a LOT, and I really want to find a place like Twitter was before elon.

  • @dmitrynikolaev5743
    @dmitrynikolaev5743 Рік тому +4

    Federation is easy. It's like e-mail. You can set up your own instance, you can find free e-mail providers in the internet, you can set up e-mail for your company, etc.

    • @eta0carinae
      @eta0carinae Рік тому +5

      you forgot the part where the vast majority of emails are hosted on gmail, defeating the point of federation

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому +9

      I've read an interesting blog recently. Looks like the big email providers are trying to kill email as an open standard and make it a walled garden with 3-4 options cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oligopoly-has-won.html

    • @c4llv07e
      @c4llv07e Рік тому +1

      @@eta0carinae Hmm, remember that the Internet was supposed to be decentralized too?

    • @afivey
      @afivey Рік тому +2

      ​@@WolfgangsChannel The problem this linked article deserves much more coverage. The consequences of centralisation of email are alarming.

  • @t.m.9182
    @t.m.9182 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for letting us know about it!

  • @teacon7
    @teacon7 Рік тому +4

    The model of inter-federated social platforms seems to better reflect how ideological communities tend to interact. A person has a "home" with a relatively like-minded group of people, and there are neighbors who speak similarly. In that model, one doesn't have to deal with fringe/extreme positions on a regular basis, nor the associated outrage. Adventurous types can go interact directly with strangers, but an overly centralized platform robbed people of a social "home" with their own sorts, and a lot of people ended up getting radicalized (to the left or the right). I suspect our social psyche needs a "home" like this, because for the most part, people are not good at interacting with those who hold different positions on really fundamental questions... we end up arguing about policies or "vibes," but rarely the root philosophical issues.

  • @st3v3sm1th
    @st3v3sm1th Рік тому +2

    Mastodon reminds me immensly of Usenet (newsnet) which was the "forum" of the Internet right up until the late 90s. Decentralized infrastructure was its biggest strength (just like Mastodon). But one of its biggest failings (just like Mastodon) was its lack of moderation which eventually turned many of its groups into cesspits of hatred, porn and spam. I bet most people haven't heard of it now. I wonder if Mastodon will succeed where Usenet eventually failed (once the general public got hold of it)

  • @rentristandelacruz
    @rentristandelacruz Рік тому +8

    Yes, Mastodon will replace Twitter.
    EDIT: Sorry, wrong timeline.

  • @burnzy3210
    @burnzy3210 Рік тому +12

    I just wish people would use this as an opportunity to realise how addicted they are to twitter/social media and try to quit rather than finding an alternative drug to get hooked on.

  • @ZenIsFluffy
    @ZenIsFluffy Рік тому +1

    Excellent video as always!!

  • @alex.prodigy
    @alex.prodigy Рік тому +6

    i agree with your assessment of twitter being kind of toxic and that it has a lot of feuds going on but probably the same thing can be said about youtube or other social networks, although maybe not quite at the same scale
    i mostly follow tech companies and/or oss tools/apps and wasn't exposed to any of the bad parts of twitter ... don't think i'll leave twitter any time soon :)

    • @Raya.T
      @Raya.T Рік тому +1

      You are technically only exposed to the bad parts of twitter if you did not curate everything yourself. It's why i and most people i have helped with curating their stuff. have been enjoying most social media's without getting furious on some dumb shit being posted.

  • @terrydaktyllus1320
    @terrydaktyllus1320 Рік тому +10

    I quit Twitter about 5 years ago, Facebook a couple of years ago and haven't looked back at either since - my mood also improved by doing so being I stopped being like the old guy waving his walking stick and scaring the birds eating his grass seed in the garden who just come back and eat the seed again when he goes back indoors. That sums up completely pointless arguments on social media anyway.
    Communications between groups of people generally becomes more friendly when they have a common topic to discuss, which is why I personally enjoy technical discussions on UA-cam when I am subscribed to channels of particular interest to me.
    Whilst I've not used Mastadon yet, I get that it is focused around communities of people that can enforce their own local rules and I always adhere to philosophy (even in Linux) of "use what someone else created or build it your way" - and therefore is something I will look into joining.
    But Twitter and Facebook are just complete cesspits of the worst traits of humanity - including extreme narcissism.

  • @jozsefizsak
    @jozsefizsak Рік тому

    Excellent explanation and dissertation!

  • @bunger8658
    @bunger8658 Рік тому +14

    I think Github will be the true twitter replacement just you wait. You'll see..... they'll all see! Ps: this video is different from the usual, I like! Nice to see that you're branching out.

    • @paulnuker1831
      @paulnuker1831 Рік тому

      Unfortunately Github is also censor-happy. They banned the tornado cash code and bent the knee to government pressure.

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому

      First Google search result tells me that the account has been restored.

    • @paulnuker1831
      @paulnuker1831 Рік тому

      @@WolfgangsChannel Ah ok, well that's good to hear!

  • @lagunagfx
    @lagunagfx Рік тому +2

    Pretty nice rant about social media in general. Glad to hear your opinions beyond the strictly technical. Nice video, Sir

  • @marctamtonthat
    @marctamtonthat Рік тому

    Brilliant analysis. Ty.

  • @rafaszymanek5370
    @rafaszymanek5370 Рік тому

    Very insightful thoughts, it was pleasure to watch 🙂

  • @qwertyTRiG
    @qwertyTRiG Рік тому +2

    I joined Twitter only just before it blew up, and Mastodon more recently, and I like neither. I don't think microblogging is for me.

  • @austin.rojers
    @austin.rojers Рік тому

    Your rant was indeed entertaining!

  • @heliophane
    @heliophane Рік тому +2

    Good job!

  • @Tarodenaro
    @Tarodenaro Рік тому

    I know it's moot but (a mock) video of you blocking the verge on Mastodon is a very specific kind 2022 funny thing i've watch so far.
    We've come a long way from StatusNet; what a ride.

  • @VisiV
    @VisiV Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this. I’ve been loving the culture of my chosen Mastodon instance, and the larger community.

  • @XxBlueSkiesx
    @XxBlueSkiesx Рік тому +8

    I’ve never had a twitter account and I never will. I don’t think there’s been a social media (I’ve been using computers since 1997) that has done more to damage the mental health of its users like twitter has

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 Рік тому +6

      I'd definitely put Facebook up there with it too as "dangerous" to mental health.

    • @UnixOath
      @UnixOath Рік тому +4

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 don't forget Instagram as well.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 Рік тому +1

      @@UnixOath I've never used Instagram - I don't even know what purpose it serves, apart from feeding narcissism.

    • @UnixOath
      @UnixOath Рік тому +1

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 Agreed, hate seeing all "friends" publishing their own "unfiltered" photos of their face while yelling out "Privacy."

    • @AverageUsernames
      @AverageUsernames Рік тому

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 And maybe youtube comment section.

  • @HumblyNeil
    @HumblyNeil Рік тому

    Hi Wolfgang, your channel has been my new favourite, congrats! I'd love to hear your opinion of RSS, I recently was thinking of how to reinvent social media and when I enjoyed the web most, circa 2004-2006, and realized that what worked well then, still exists today, and that's a feed of different sources, albeit a blog, a podcast, and even a youtube channel can all be put into a syndication feed, and what is most beautiful beyond the chronology of the feed, the fact you can categorize it, is that you're outside of the scope of adverts and algorithms in the feed. I have been experimenting with self-hosted RSS readers with some failures and successes; and would love to hear your opinion of this. :-)

  • @m3vm3
    @m3vm3 8 місяців тому +2

    I understand why they dont want to show likes and replies but not seeing them makes me feel lonely, like im scrolling on a ghost town like website

  • @brunofelix
    @brunofelix Рік тому

    Great video, man!

  • @jonathan.sullivan
    @jonathan.sullivan Рік тому +3

    Let's not pretend that the social network TRUTH is basically running Mastodon underneath.

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому +1

      Gab too iirc

    • @jeder6915
      @jeder6915 Рік тому +1

      @@WolfgangsChannel i think gab already moved on, and stopped federating few months ago to make it even funnier

  • @michaelvilain8457
    @michaelvilain8457 Рік тому

    Wish there was a link to that list of Mastodon servers in the show notes. This really explained some of the quirks of Twitter I've just internalized over my use of it these years. Somehow I manage to curate my timeline so that it doesn't piss me off as much. Created a Mastodon account on a LGBTQ tech instance in April but couldn't connect with other instances very easily, so I deleted it. Now most of the instances are closed.

  • @tagret2051
    @tagret2051 2 місяці тому +1

    If decentralized, and open source. What third parties are getting out info?? Such as Name, Email, age etc. WT HECK???

    • @soundsnags2001
      @soundsnags2001 Місяць тому

      Decentralized yes, but you're still joining someone's instance if you're not running your own. They have all your data.

  • @davidpetersonharvey
    @davidpetersonharvey Рік тому +2

    Personally, I'm not seeing racial slurs on Twitter. It's actually a bit calmer now that people can communicate with each other.

  • @mrsansiverius2083
    @mrsansiverius2083 Рік тому

    Wolfgang uploaded, we're back

  • @benspiers6147
    @benspiers6147 Рік тому +1

    100% agree. I love the way people are nice on Mastodon too.

    • @chandlerbing7570
      @chandlerbing7570 Рік тому +1

      Did you skip over 4:03 ?

    • @rkvkydqf
      @rkvkydqf Рік тому

      @@chandlerbing7570 Did you skip over the rest of the video? The whole point is that these instances can be isolated into their own bubbles through community consensus and defederation. You can say anything you want, but no one is obliged to listen to you against their will.

    • @Hellohiq10
      @Hellohiq10 Рік тому +2

      @@rkvkydqf users don’t get to choose which instances get banned, the admins do.

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому +2

      @I am Rox The admins of smaller instances often ask for the opinions of the users before defederating from another instance. And even then, if you don't agree with the decision, you can always migrate to another instance - many of which have an explicit "anything goes" policy. Both of those things are a big improvement compared to Twitter, where the decision to ban a certain account from the entire platform is taken by a single group of moderators, and you have no way of influencing or circumventing the decision.

  • @archigoel
    @archigoel Рік тому +2

    I just don't see it happening. Musk will make Twitter a beast. You will have 100's of changes, backed by some of the best AI, within a year.

  • @RoxyStellar
    @RoxyStellar Рік тому

    no doubt excellent summation ✌😸funny too thanx

  • @slikedollar4656
    @slikedollar4656 Рік тому +7

    Wolfgang.

  • @weridplusho
    @weridplusho Рік тому +2

    I've played with the fediverse including Mastodon and eh, I don't really like it? This was a few years ago, but I found it cumbersome to filter and I didn't like how anything I commented on would be on the instance's main page. I'm more of a lurker while Mastodon seems to be for more social peeps.

  • @blevenzon
    @blevenzon Рік тому +1

    I loved techtwitter made so many connection and found mentors and etc. But jumped to mastodon. It takes some getting used to and changing domains is a Pain still

  • @Abandex369
    @Abandex369 Рік тому +1

    I like how each fediverse instance feels like it has a shorter lifespan than the abnormal tech giants. The community there is temporary so I learn to enjoy what I have while I have it.

  • @thiagoalves9606
    @thiagoalves9606 Рік тому +2

    Nice video. I would really like if you went deeper into the Fediverse in another video, with subjects like PeerTube.

  • @vert9252
    @vert9252 Рік тому +2

    great video bro

  • @NaudVanDalen
    @NaudVanDalen Рік тому

    7:39 Yet it looks almost exactly like Twitter. Even my Twitter clone doesn't look as much as Twitter, but that's because I designed it to look like the last version of Twitter (with the popup tweets and giant banner) and I stopped working on it, so now it looks very different from the current Twitter.

  • @lesumsi
    @lesumsi Рік тому

    People thinking that federated platforms can't succeed forget that email exists and has a large user base. Yes, self-hosting is not feasible for everyone, just for enthusiasts. But the majority will end up using commercial services like GMail (or AOL fwiw).

  • @jmr5792
    @jmr5792 Рік тому +6

    I had some of the most toxic experiences of my life on twitter. Some guy created impersonator accounts of me over a dumb argument and the twitter support team wouldn't suspend the account for months. In a way I'm happy twitter is collapsing.

  • @raeplaysval
    @raeplaysval Рік тому

    trying out mastodon now

  • @loudthattrack8974
    @loudthattrack8974 Рік тому +1

    i didnt knew mastodon thanks for explaining everything along with your rant, i dont use twitter but im a very vocal supporter of free speech in general... suddenly i wanna run a mastodon instance

  • @sicko_the_ew
    @sicko_the_ew Рік тому +1

    Maybe Usenet is going to make a comeback?

  • @teacon7
    @teacon7 Рік тому

    great video.

  • @user-kv9dw4tp3y
    @user-kv9dw4tp3y Рік тому +1

    Пожалуйста делай побольше видосов. Очень интересна каждая тема. Кстати. Можно вернутся к линукс на телефоне. Сам попробую установить postmarketOs на старый сяоми. Потом на покофон пробую

  • @NaudVanDalen
    @NaudVanDalen Рік тому

    5:32 Remember when it was only 140 characters? That was even worse.

  • @ashishpatel350
    @ashishpatel350 Рік тому +5

    mastadon couldnt even replace myspace.

  • @dr00by
    @dr00by Рік тому +1

    Ratio first applied to a single tweet when someone said something so stupid or objectionable that they received more replies than likes. Sometime in the last year or so gen z has appropriated it to be some kind of bully tactic where someone just posts "RATIO XD" and it's succesful if they get more likes than the OP.

  • @techyougo
    @techyougo Рік тому

    I don't think anyones expecting it to. Would rather go on multiple platforms that get popular for a couple months or a couple years then switch then use Twitter right now

  • @OmegaMusicYT
    @OmegaMusicYT Рік тому +1

    Its good that Mastodon wont replace twitter. But we still need a FOSS privacy preserving app that will be able to do that.

    • @OmegaMusicYT
      @OmegaMusicYT Рік тому

      Just having more of these proof of concept experiments floating around wont fix the real issue that is people using propietary spyware ran by multi billion dollar corpos

    • @joelchrono
      @joelchrono Рік тому +3

      emm, but mastodon IS foss, and you only need an email to have an account...

    • @OmegaMusicYT
      @OmegaMusicYT Рік тому

      @@joelchrono Yeah but If you have watched the video, he argues, correctly in my opinion, that mastodon will not replace twitter and is not trying to do so.

    • @joelchrono
      @joelchrono Рік тому +1

      @@OmegaMusicYT We dont need a replacement, the reason mastodon is not a replacement is because it does not follow the dark patterns and other practices twitter has. A perfect replacement that is also FOSS will not exist, I think

    • @OmegaMusicYT
      @OmegaMusicYT Рік тому

      @@joelchrono Well, not *perfect* but we need smth that is good enough for ppl to drop the spyware crap and use it instead

  • @moth.monster
    @moth.monster Рік тому +1

    #AkkomaGang represent

  • @Jose04537
    @Jose04537 Рік тому

    Mastodon's instances sounds like Reddit's subreddits (just more open).

  • @gFamWeb
    @gFamWeb Рік тому +1

    The "dev build in production" is actually a false allegation. The proof is that the browser was attempting to read source maps and getting 404's. The way source maps work is that there's a comment and the end of a script file that points to them.
    Those comments have existed since before Elon. It's not a dev build, just comments that point to source maps only accessible internally. Those comments actually make sense in context, because sometimes they have to debug the prod build.

  • @tinyentropy
    @tinyentropy 11 місяців тому

    What do you say about Blue Sky then?

  • @vibhupande
    @vibhupande Рік тому

    Some insight on identity spoofing, content flagging, verified accounts and micropayment handling over these federated networks would've made this vid better. Thanks for the comparison, regardless. IMHO, the trend feels like a step back in social networking.. centrality has been what pulled people in.

  • @toast1797
    @toast1797 Рік тому +6

    Let twitter keep what it does best: collect all the crappiest interactions known to mankind to unload other platforms from that cesspool mentality

    • @AcidiFy574
      @AcidiFy574 Рік тому

      They're called cancer for a reason

  • @ofernandofilo
    @ofernandofilo Рік тому

    how can a platform that has been making losses for decades be accused of being profit-minded?

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому +2

      They might be struggling with profit, but that’s not for a lack of trying

  • @ThatSkiFreak
    @ThatSkiFreak Рік тому +2

    I feel like mastedon is a weird cross between reddit and twitter, and discord already is serving the purpose of allowing independent communities. It is possible that mastedon will do a better job of carrying the torch of old forum culture, which previously I would have said discord is the closest reasonable option we had.

    • @schukaproallied9834
      @schukaproallied9834 Рік тому +2

      @@RyuFitzgerald ??

    • @ThatSkiFreak
      @ThatSkiFreak Рік тому

      @43_XA_Ashutosh Sononey Yeah this is true, I haven't used it enough to determine how important that is. In my eyes the main reason you would want to post globally is to self promo though and I'm not sure many more people would see that anyway in such a situation. Otherwise I feel like you would be better off just sticking to the smaller community you know has nice discourse.

    • @SuzD0n
      @SuzD0n Рік тому +1

      The forum culture was the golden age imho. I'm in favour of a decentralised internet, but the main drawback will always be the corners where hate speech lurks. This really is inevitable regardless of what social media model you choose. I suspect forums worked out so well because discussion was organised topically, so people headed for what they were interested in and conversations were more productive. But put a crowd together and the dark side of human psychology emerges - fights eventually break out. The option to self-police seems the best way, such as with self- governing wikis. Wikipedia has it's flaws but is a good example of internet self-policing in progress.

    • @ThatSkiFreak
      @ThatSkiFreak Рік тому

      @@SuzD0n I agree. I think trying to make sure that the awful people just dont exist on the internet or change their minds is a lost cause, just shove them in their own little corner and leave everyone else to pick their own corner and move on. Obviously this runs the risk of echo chambers but echo chambers really only exist in certain corners spesifically designed for a political or idealogical purpose, so I believe the echo chamber fears are greatly exadgerated (at least on the platform level).

    • @weridplusho
      @weridplusho Рік тому

      @@SuzD0n The organization of forums is easily what makes it superior to any social media. You stick to what you were interested in and the fights were minimal. Social media always felt being packed into an elevator and trying to talk to like-minded people.

  • @hugoedelarosa
    @hugoedelarosa Рік тому

    I made a mastodon account two weeks ago, and it is loads better than Twitter. It’s nothing like Twitter. Only log into the Bird app to look for people’s Mastodon user names.

  • @singletona082
    @singletona082 3 місяці тому

    No it won't, and that is perfectly ok.

  • @franirene2967
    @franirene2967 Рік тому

    All social media is💩

  • @BorealBlizzard
    @BorealBlizzard Рік тому

    I don't think it will die however I don't think it will grow

  • @GiuseppeColaneri7
    @GiuseppeColaneri7 Рік тому

    Mastodon is not a social platform as the ones we know today. And it's fine, I totally relate and understand some people prefer to have a smaller community of similiar peep. It's quite sad however to see the idea of internet as a "global space" totally crushed and the reaction to the everpresent filter bubble is just to jump into other bubbles.. even smaller too. Twitter, Facebook and other platforms are indeed full of toxic people, it's true.. but it's just as life. Our worldviews are forged by our experiences and content we see; limiting ourselves to smaller and smaller niches can lead us to a better internet experience, of course... but at the cost to see only the smallest part of the reality. It's a difficult tradeoff to balance, the one between a better social network experience and the knowledge of our world/society.

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому +2

      Although I definitely agree that echo chambers and filter bubbles are an issue, I also think that the desire not to be exposed to toxic content online (or even just the kind of content that you don't vibe with) is totally understandable. In real life, we often don't have control over who we're interacting with - you don't choose your parents, your neighbors, colleagues, acquaintainces or even passers-by on the street, and a lot of people work with customers at their job, who they also have to serve regardless of their political beliefs, taste and even behavior (to a certain extent).
      Internet, on the other hand, is pretty much the only place in life where you get to fully choose which content and what people to engage with. It's the only place where you can 100% set your own rules and boundaries, and cut toxic people out with no financial or social repercussions. What's the definition of toxic? You get to decide. You think that people who dislike Zelda are toxic? All power to you, block them everywhere
      And I think that having a "safe space" like that is good. The majority of people certainly don't get the privilege of maintaining their 'bubble' irl, and rest assured, they get exposed to all sorts of opinions and views at work, school, college and family table. But I think that on social media, the desire to engage and be exposed to new things should come from the users, not from the social media corporations playing saviors.

    • @GiuseppeColaneri7
      @GiuseppeColaneri7 Рік тому

      @@WolfgangsChannel and I totally see your point and even if I work - also - with social media my online "social life" is mainly on private groups on Whatsapp, Telegram or Discord. I think the only way to strike a balance between the two extremes (interacting only with people like me vs being able to interact or see also thing we like less) can be reached only by a new kind of education that, starting from the school, is able to teach everyone that modern citizenships is formed through digital media and internet too. Being able to discern, dissect, absorb and even reject informations is crucial to form informed voting people. I repeat myself: there's not an easy solution to this problem and I totally understand people willing to block or hide anything that they do not like. I hope this kind of solution will not lead to bigger problems in the future.

  • @NaudVanDalen
    @NaudVanDalen Рік тому

    2:16 I 100% believe that's the real Chiquita account. It has been active for a long time tweeting normally. There's also not a single other Chiquita account that could be the real one besides this one. It's just a Wendy's wannabe tweet. Wendy's Twitter account looks even faker if you look at what replies they often tweet like them roasting people and companies.

  • @PetrifiedAdolescents
    @PetrifiedAdolescents Рік тому

    Dude I have the same name as you, I've never seen anyone with the same name as me.

  • @Gigachad-mc5qz
    @Gigachad-mc5qz Рік тому +1

    Whos gonna see a racial slur or trad wive wojak and think: man fuck vitamin water

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому +1

      Enough people for a company that used to have a $750k/mo ad budget to pull their ads from Twitter:
      nitter.net/pic/orig/media%2FFiF_m-5VIAAanfz.jpg

    • @Gigachad-mc5qz
      @Gigachad-mc5qz Рік тому

      @@WolfgangsChannel well they know better. I didnt expect a respone thanks c:

  • @stellarorbit1341
    @stellarorbit1341 Рік тому +2

    I didn't use Twitter until Elon bought it, just for the show, but Facebook was my Crux. It made me feel depressed and angry all the time and I hate it. So now I joined Fosstodon and am on the waiting list. Maybe I can scroll happy stuff rather than sad and anger inducing stuff from now on.

  • @loopje
    @loopje Рік тому +1

    i’m a 1.5 minutes in and you have gotten almost all of the facts wrong. never seen something like that before

    • @seriouscat2231
      @seriouscat2231 Рік тому

      You don't put an 'a' before a plural. But the facts about Twitter were the least interesting and important part of this video anyway.

  • @Davy-oq9pn
    @Davy-oq9pn Рік тому

    I miss the good ole days when twitter was a bird content only social media site. I hope that Elon Musk gets his shit together and returns it to glory. BIRDS ONLY!

  • @kmr_tl4509
    @kmr_tl4509 Рік тому

    Pleroma

  • @AIC_onyt
    @AIC_onyt Рік тому

    Wolfgang ratiod Twitter and matodon. XD

  • @lottery248
    @lottery248 8 місяців тому

    high-traffic servers are what Mastodon needs right now. by the way, free speech needs to protect the least popular ones especially hate speech (which literally anything can be).

  • @user-cu6yh7po2f
    @user-cu6yh7po2f Рік тому +1

    Why I am not having bad experince on twitter? maybe cause I have friendly non english feed
    anyway cool video
    will think about mastodon, but not as twitter replacament

  • @GlutesEnjoyer
    @GlutesEnjoyer Рік тому +5

    Based

  • @okkiesmaster7820
    @okkiesmaster7820 Рік тому +1

    srsly, whats on your right ? you keep peeking on your right...

  • @middle_pickup
    @middle_pickup 2 місяці тому

    We do need decentralized social media, but mastodon isn't it. It's too complicated. We need a simple solution.

  • @AQDuck
    @AQDuck Рік тому +2

    Elon bought a crashing airplane, yeeted the pilots and everyone on one side of the airplane, then disconnected the autopilot that kept it in a somewhat stable and survivable downslope and the plane is now flaling around as Elon orders every surviving passenger to engineer new wings on the falling plane so that instead of engines it can continue to fly by flapping its static wings.
    Or in rocket terms since he owns a space company: He flipped his rocket around and pointed the flamy end up.

    • @CaptainRon1913
      @CaptainRon1913 Рік тому

      Nope, you got that wrong. Twitter was already flipped upside down. Now that all the employees that never showed up for work in the first place, are gone, Twitter now has a chance of surviving

  • @brucebarnes8138
    @brucebarnes8138 Рік тому

    Good video. I never liked twitter, I just tried mastodan. I like it. I like the server I picked. The people are nice and interesting. They like science, rock climbing etc.
    My only problem, it is not a big thing, but I am and not interested in reading gay stuff. If you know a server that likes science, rock climb, etc without as much gay stuff please comment.

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому +1

      Not sure what exactly you mean by gay stuff, but you can use filters to hide posts on the timeline

  • @Keyshooter
    @Keyshooter Рік тому

    based take

  • @void-qy4ov
    @void-qy4ov Рік тому

    Mentioning blue checkmark without saying what it become in latest years is only telling part of the story. I'm very far to be 'Elon's boys', but at least Twitter became funny again.

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому +1

      It became funny in spite of Elon's efforts, not thanks to them. Moreover, the moderators now ban all accounts that parody Elon (even those that have "Parody" in the name - which Elon said should be ok). So much for free speech

  • @RealShinpin
    @RealShinpin Рік тому +1

    Twitter is so much more fun since elon took over...

  • @johnthomas2970
    @johnthomas2970 Рік тому

    Thanks for the update mate. Love from Australia. Will have to jump on it. Sick of twitters manipulative behaviour

  • @nikkgstore
    @nikkgstore Рік тому

    yuo are not writhe to toking about this reviev of twitter

  • @jasongreenwood3260
    @jasongreenwood3260 Рік тому +2

    Good review.
    I firmly believe:
    All speech is free speech.
    Buyer beware
    You get what you pay for.
    Be careful what you wish for.
    And, personal responsibility.
    If more people believed the same we wouldn't need moderators.
    But that's not the world we live in.
    I still prefer "No moderators".
    But I also don't allow social media to sway my thoughts. This is something our world seems to have an issue with. Therefore, the need for a mommy and daddy to keep the kids in check.
    *Sigh*

  • @derdreckigedan_6679
    @derdreckigedan_6679 Рік тому +3

    Junge was geht bitte bei deinem Englisch? Kann man ja garnicht mit dem Durchschnitt der deutschen vergleichen. Richtig stark 👌👍

    • @Jimmy_Jones
      @Jimmy_Jones Рік тому

      Scripts will help

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  Рік тому

      @Watcher do tell which ones! so that I can pronounce them correctly in the future 😁

  • @heygema
    @heygema 10 місяців тому

    Threads is the middle ground, since they're about to integrate with ActivityPub

    • @WolfgangsChannel
      @WolfgangsChannel  10 місяців тому +2

      It wouldn't surprise me if they rug pull the federation functionality.
      Threads doesn't really need it to become huge, they've already hit 100 million users in under a week.

  • @jw4659
    @jw4659 Рік тому

    Mastodon rules over Twitter!

  • @rabidrivas
    @rabidrivas Рік тому +1

    The fact that instaces can block other instances just rubs me the wrong way.

    • @birdbrainiac
      @birdbrainiac Рік тому

      You can move from an instance to another instance, so if one you want to view is blocked you can get it. So why is this an issue?

    • @rabidrivas
      @rabidrivas Рік тому +2

      @@birdbrainiac Because I would like an instance that doesn't block anything and keeping track of when an instance starts blocking something is tedious. Also most instances that don't block some content are also blocked by instances that do.
      Don't get me wrong, I want to block stuff. I just want to do so myself (and not be blocked from other instances)

    • @fattypopulista8189
      @fattypopulista8189 Рік тому

      @@rabidrivas Then just host your own instance for a few bucks.

  • @mitchellquartero
    @mitchellquartero Рік тому +1

    Twitter is 🤮