Which Platform Could Replace X/Twitter in 2024?

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  • Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
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    Elon Musk's tumultuous tenure of Twitter/X has seen competitors in the social media space trying to capitalise on its recent controversies and declining users. But do any of them have a genuine shot of filling the void left behind by the big blue bird?
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    1 - www.nytimes.com/2023/11/24/bu...
    2 - www.independent.co.uk/tech/el...
    3 - www.wsj.com/tech/meta-threads...
    4 - www.theverge.com/2023/10/25/2...
    5 - techcrunch.com/2023/10/26/zuc...
    6 - www.statista.com/statistics/3...
    7 - blog.hootsuite.com/what-is-ma...
    8 - www.theverge.com/23686584/twi...
    9 - www.engadget.com/is-decentral...
    10 - mashable.com/article/bluesky-...
    11 - techcrunch.com/2023/12/06/blu...
    12 - blueskyweb.xyz/blog/11-15-202...
    00:00 Introduction
    01:32 X’s Downfall
    04:17 Threads
    06:41 Mastodon
    08:25 Bluesky
    09:37 Could They Replace X?
    12:07 GiveWell

КОМЕНТАРІ • 384

  • @joshuahillerup4290
    @joshuahillerup4290 7 місяців тому +220

    Calling Bluesky "decentralized" at the moment seems inaccurate. They claim they want to become decentralized, but until they do so it is still very much centralized.

    • @yuvalne
      @yuvalne 7 місяців тому +24

      also calling a platform run by a billionaire "billionaire proof" is a joke.

    • @davidioanhedges
      @davidioanhedges 7 місяців тому +8

      @@yuvalne It can't be bought by a Billionaire ...

    • @thebestben
      @thebestben 7 місяців тому +7

      @@yuvalne I want to clear up a few misconceptions about Bluesky:
      Jack Dorsey does not hold a position at Bluesky, PBLLC. He has one vote on the Board of Directors. Also, the technology behind the app, the At Protocol cannot be controlled by a billionaire. It’s simply not built that way. Once Bluesky opens up to the public, they will allow non-Bluesky instances to be created and controlled by other individuals/businesses.

    • @ahriboy
      @ahriboy 6 місяців тому +2

      Unless Bluesky server admins have the power to filter out content they don't like, as well as rejecting requests from other servers

    • @joshuahillerup4290
      @joshuahillerup4290 6 місяців тому

      @@ahriboy there's only one Bluesky instance right now, which is Bluesky

  • @davidioanhedges
    @davidioanhedges 7 місяців тому +183

    Mastodon is not and never has been a replacement for Twitter - it's different, very good at what it want's to be, and has no intention of being a Twitter replacement
    BlueSky is intended to be a Twitter replacement, but is letting people join by invite only so it grows slowly and they can block the spammers, bots, and trolls
    Threads is everything wrong with Twitter ... replicated

    • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
      @GreenBlueWalkthrough 7 місяців тому +5

      So Reddit the reattempt?

    • @digojez
      @digojez 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@@GreenBlueWalkthroughnah, reddit is just a mistake.

    • @xWood4000
      @xWood4000 6 місяців тому

      ​​​@@GreenBlueWalkthroughLemmy/kbin is the improved version of reddit, and is compatible with Mastodon. But it has it's own issues, before Twitter and Reddit scared people away one of the biggest servers on Mastodon was a neonazi server, and one of the biggest lemmy servers is a russian propaganda server that has normal communities on it

  • @GraalsDeadMonster
    @GraalsDeadMonster 7 місяців тому +94

    There is something wrong with the sound, a constant bussing noise

    • @Blorp_
      @Blorp_ 7 місяців тому +4

      Yeah, thought my speaker was broken. Really annoying

    • @kindofanmol
      @kindofanmol 7 місяців тому +4

      More like a hissing noise

    • @thewonderfultartiflette4733
      @thewonderfultartiflette4733 7 місяців тому +2

      No joke my ears were hurting just after 15 seconds. Probably due to his mic, maybe too much gain ?

    • @fathertimegaming17
      @fathertimegaming17 7 місяців тому +1

      You aren't riding the bus are you?

    • @LeahLundqvist
      @LeahLundqvist 7 місяців тому

      @@thewonderfultartiflette4733sounds like a faulty xlr cable

  • @cyberrb25
    @cyberrb25 7 місяців тому +33

    It's kinda funny that Bluesky wasn't supposed to be Twitter's competitor, but the platform Twitter was going to migrate to... The project was actually being on the background since 2019 (from what I've read), and the plan was to get the AT Protocol to become the place Twitter would be mounted over, in time.

    • @thebestben
      @thebestben 7 місяців тому +7

      Yep, Bluesky was gonna be the open-source tech that Twitter would’ve been migrated to, allowing other companies to join the network with their own services. But then Elon tweeted about buying Twitter and the rest is history.

    • @Jasuta123
      @Jasuta123 6 місяців тому +3

      I have bluesky account, i can say that it most likely best alternative . Specially allowing adult content .

    • @ArtsyDreamr
      @ArtsyDreamr 5 місяців тому

      ​@@thebestbenHonestly isn't it great that Twitter died though? If Musk didn't buy it, Blues toxicity would be immediate. Now that's not the case.

  • @phooogle
    @phooogle 7 місяців тому +94

    Hopefully nothing. The world doesn't need another social media cesspool like the ones we already have.

    • @dennisp8520
      @dennisp8520 7 місяців тому +8

      Actually this X is good enough I don’t want another social account to deal with

    • @phooogle
      @phooogle 7 місяців тому +8

      @@dennisp8520 Yeh I approve of the way Elon is handling X really. I think it's missing the point when reports etc look at the loss in advertising revenue because I remember Elon stating he was taking it over to fix it for ideological reasons really.

    • @shivanshna7618
      @shivanshna7618 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@phoooglei don't know about other things but I liked community notes feature in new Twitter. Also Twitter is sludge enough don't need other's (for now).

    • @ratatatuff
      @ratatatuff 7 місяців тому

      @@phooogle And due to his ideological reasons he turned it into an alt-right cesspool ....

    • @cloudy_xDD
      @cloudy_xDD 7 місяців тому

      Anything would be better than Twitter right now.

  • @Musashi246
    @Musashi246 7 місяців тому +39

    The title having to write "X/Twitter" really says enough about Elon's marketing sense...

  • @patriciaa4451
    @patriciaa4451 7 місяців тому +10

    Does anyone else think Jack Dorsey looks like a tall Peter Dinklage?

    • @CrimsonA1
      @CrimsonA1 4 місяці тому

      Twist: They're the same person, but while being Jack, he sits on the shoulders of a skinny dude.

  • @yuvalne
    @yuvalne 7 місяців тому +29

    CORRECTIONS: there absolutely IS a search function and account verification! saying otherwise is absolutely misleading!
    full-text search, as well as tag based search and advaced search (e.g. "has media", "from this date" etc.) is available in every 4.2 or later instance, which includes >70% of Mastodon instances (older instances have partial search capability). so this point is plain wrong! Mastodon's search isn't any worse than Twitter's.
    as for verification - there isn't centralised verification with ID because there is no centralisation, but there is website-based verification! so if you were to open a Mastodon account and add a link to it from TLDR News's website, that website would appear verified and everyone would know that that account is the same people that run TLDR, or in otherwise, that you are verified to be you.

    • @Elfo_
      @Elfo_ 7 місяців тому +9

      Thank you for clarifying that. I was very surprised to hear that wrong information in that video!

    • @adancingdog
      @adancingdog 7 місяців тому

      There was quite a lot wrong about Threads as well…
      It does have tags, although they were only globally released this week, the feature has been in public testing for at least a couple weeks.
      Also, if they’re calling bluesky decentralised, then you could call threads too, given their intent on implementing activitypub and connecting with mastodon…

    • @tomar81
      @tomar81 7 місяців тому +2

      Such verification is not helpful for existing Twitter users, who apparently have difficulty identifying fake accounts, even knowing that each tweet displays a unique username.

  • @dmhowcroft
    @dmhowcroft 7 місяців тому +22

    Mastodon has search and users can self verify if they have a website, which would be typical of accounts which need it most. The discussion of Twitter alternatives seems very under researched, to the point where it makes me doubt the quality of other TLDR content where I don't happen to know something about the topic already.

    • @yuvalne
      @yuvalne 7 місяців тому +2

      ++

    • @Elfo_
      @Elfo_ 6 місяців тому +1

      I thought the same thing. You start questioning other videos when you see a video about the topic you know something about and you realize that the research was bad.

    • @crypticTV
      @crypticTV 6 місяців тому

      As the name suggests TLDR is also kinda like Wikipedia a lot of questionable info but gives u kind of an idea lol

  • @nickdaniels5892
    @nickdaniels5892 7 місяців тому +11

    I don't usually see sloppy research from the TLDR team, but you know how I know no one at TLDR used Mastadon?
    They didn't happen to notice the GIANT FREAKING SEARCH BOX. 🤦

  • @Elfo_
    @Elfo_ 7 місяців тому +34

    I think one important information is missed in that video. Threads plans to connect to Mastodon in the future. So that Threads acts like a Mastodon instance. That means Threads user can follow and connect with Mastodon user and Mastodon user can follow and connect with Treads user.

    • @valentinkrajzelman4649
      @valentinkrajzelman4649 7 місяців тому +3

      uuh that would be cool

    • @Elfo_
      @Elfo_ 7 місяців тому

      @@valentinkrajzelman4649 News to that from a few hours ago: "Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced that the company has started testing showing posts on Mastodon"

    • @xWood4000
      @xWood4000 6 місяців тому

      ​@@valentinkrajzelman4649It is a cool idea, but if too many people use Threads Meta will control the whole fediverse, and there's no point to have it decentralised then

    • @CallMeTeci
      @CallMeTeci 6 місяців тому +2

      How are they gonna moderate this tho? Threads is highly moderated with relatively strict rules, while Mastodon is basically a free 4 all.

    • @headlesszombie8689
      @headlesszombie8689 19 днів тому

      Except that the vast majority of Mastodon instances have already blocked Threads, and nobody on Mastodon wants anything to do with Threads.

  • @joshuahillerup4290
    @joshuahillerup4290 7 місяців тому +56

    Tldr itself has had videos pointing out that Twitter was never the largest social media platform. So I think this video needed to do a better job explaining what "replacing X" even means

    • @ToshisanMotonaka
      @ToshisanMotonaka 7 місяців тому +9

      Micro-blogging is replaced; Twitter was the default, especially for breaking news although it wasn't the biggest platform in terms of active and total users.

    • @backlogbuddies
      @backlogbuddies 7 місяців тому +4

      I would prefer to go back to blogging. Having multiple sites with long blogs was fun

    • @joshuahillerup4290
      @joshuahillerup4290 7 місяців тому

      @@backlogbuddies those still exist

  • @joshua_lee732
    @joshua_lee732 7 місяців тому +8

    I want to correct you, mastodon does have search, hash tags, and even has a trending field. All if which are served over federation.

  • @RIPBlueInk
    @RIPBlueInk 7 місяців тому +3

    Why would there have to be a replacement? When a doctor cures cancer they don't start looking for something to replace it.

    • @AugustoCuervo-hx9pr
      @AugustoCuervo-hx9pr Місяць тому

      You do not understand how cancer works. There is no cure for cancer, just remedies to "delay" the inevitable. Oxidation reactions inside the cell can cause cancer by accident, which is normal.
      And, about the social media talking... Remember when Tumblr changed its policies back in 2019? Everyone was after Twitter for that reason.

  • @gardenmice2516
    @gardenmice2516 7 місяців тому +12

    It feels like a strange omission to not mention tumblr, which has 135million active users. Although I doubt it would take the place of twitter.

    • @viskyboi1275
      @viskyboi1275 7 місяців тому +9

      lmao tumblr. Yea, its never going to be as big as it once was

    • @co6308
      @co6308 7 місяців тому

      Tumblr is a cesspool of woke toxic people. Lmao!

    • @taureon_
      @taureon_ 7 місяців тому

      @@viskyboi1275 even without the userbase, tumblr is cozy

    • @CallMeTeci
      @CallMeTeci 6 місяців тому +2

      Yep, weirdly the only platform that i have tried that actually feels like it could work as an alternative that doesnt have the same issues Twitter has. (e.g. no char limit)
      Everything else feels either not made for the average person or simply like it would be in an alpha for the next 2 years.

  • @lensy6
    @lensy6 7 місяців тому +6

    bluesky's intended path of starting invite only and then opening up to be a twitter killer reminds me of gab, so i expect it will have the same impact of only being used by a fringe.

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 7 місяців тому +34

    *_X_* will be able to pick up new advertising, such as pillows, cash for gold and survivalists prep kits.

    • @janvanhoyk8375
      @janvanhoyk8375 7 місяців тому +5

      lol

    • @evepreviouslyknownaslenenjoyer
      @evepreviouslyknownaslenenjoyer 7 місяців тому +5

      ratio

    • @dux_bellorum
      @dux_bellorum 7 місяців тому +3

      😂😂😂 I laugh cause it's true....

    • @GhostOnTheHalfShell
      @GhostOnTheHalfShell 7 місяців тому

      Especially since Musk has identified an unmet need. Small and medium business are simply gagging to have their brands associated with conspiracy and hate groups.

    • @phoenix5054
      @phoenix5054 7 місяців тому +6

      Don't forget masculinity supplements.

  • @DallasMay
    @DallasMay 7 місяців тому +5

    Your Mastodon user count is WAY LOW. I don't know where you got that number. It's more like 14 million users today.

    • @Altralaltral
      @Altralaltral 7 місяців тому +2

      Yes Mastodon has more than 14 million accounts, but TLDR is showing estimated monthly active users. 1.8 million is probably about right.

    • @jasonplayer9047
      @jasonplayer9047 7 місяців тому +2

      He should fix his active user chart:
      ~350 million Twitter/X
      ~10.3 million Threads
      ~1.8 million Mastodon
      ~.5 million Bluesky
      The problem in this video is that he mixes the active users and total number of accounts, kind of messing with the respective scales. He mentions an estimated 10.3 million active users for Threads... but uses the 100 Million total users in his active user chart. Blue Sky is much smaller than Mastodon for both active users and total number of accounts. But by using the total number of users of Blue Sky vs active Blue Sky, he makes them look roughly the same by as Mastodon by comparing the wrong numbers.
      Total number of accounts:
      ~1.3 billion Twitter/X
      ~100 million Threads
      ~14.5 million Mastodon
      ~2 million Bluesky

  • @benpalmer7596
    @benpalmer7596 7 місяців тому +6

    Another question is why there’s never been a serious competitor to Twitter before this time. Was it because twitter was so dominant, or was it because for a vast majority of its history, twitter hasn’t been profitable or desirable to replicate? It’s a loose cannon in terms of content and has a business model which is hard to make work, profit wise.

  • @GrantCelley
    @GrantCelley 6 місяців тому +2

    A hobby programmer here. It is easy to build a social media app(website) but its hard to get the users.

  • @yoshbennett8637
    @yoshbennett8637 7 місяців тому +5

    Hopefully Bluesky opens up since threads is full of the most boring generic people. Twitter is slowly becoming 4chan 2 amd its sad there isnt a good enough competitor.

    • @jeffrey93849
      @jeffrey93849 6 місяців тому

      It’s sad you hate free speech

  • @diogor420
    @diogor420 6 місяців тому +5

    UPDATE: Threads is already available in Europe!

    • @Tobelia
      @Tobelia 6 місяців тому +2

      *And* joining the fediverse. A lot has happened since this video was uploaded 3 days ago…

    • @Elfo_
      @Elfo_ 6 місяців тому

      @@Tobelia It was already well known that Threads would join the fediverse at the time this video was made.

  • @Anzallos
    @Anzallos 6 місяців тому +2

    2:25 To emphasize how bad it was, the tweet Elon replied to was itself a reply to a tweet literally asking for people who think "Hitler was right" to stop hiding behind anonymity and put their name to what they think.
    So on the one hand maybe Elon doesn't check the context of tweets he replies to. On the other, /maybe he does/

  • @GhostOnTheHalfShell
    @GhostOnTheHalfShell 7 місяців тому +3

    Also a member’s Mastodon timeline is *determined* by follows of people, groups or hash tags. You all really dropped the ball on your research.

  • @AndersHass
    @AndersHass 7 місяців тому +2

    Isn't Threads supposed to be part of the Mastodon network?

  • @Sekhmmett
    @Sekhmmett 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the video

  • @cyberpunk.386
    @cyberpunk.386 7 місяців тому +3

    Most of these social media platforms are overrated. The bulk of tweets is shallower than a sheet a paper and it's highly likely that only the poster will think it's of interest to the world.

  • @arsonal3
    @arsonal3 7 місяців тому +11

    Just a note that Threads does have tags now. I forget what they’re calling them but thought I would ad that detail here.

  • @blackhatmaster88
    @blackhatmaster88 7 місяців тому +14

    For Threads, I'm wondering if the endgame plan from Meta is not to steal enough people from X to hurt their already poor finance even if Threads loses money.
    During that time, they can improve their plateform little by little and you might have a mature plateform ready to welcome X users when it's inevitably falls at which point they can start to think about benefits.

    • @ItsMeChillTyme
      @ItsMeChillTyme 7 місяців тому

      I'm thinking that X will be bought again and renamed back to twitter lol. It'll get sold for pennies on the dollar after elon makes a big show about it. But then again, what platform is he going to go to for massaging his massive ego by yes men?

    • @philipjones3599
      @philipjones3599 6 місяців тому

      Never going to work Instagram is totally the wrong platform to steal twitter users.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 6 місяців тому +2

    Won't be too long until countries offer their own Twitters.

  • @yscol1313
    @yscol1313 7 місяців тому +8

    Elon Musk didn’t tell “all advertisers” to go f themselves… only the ones that were trying to assert influence of what he can and cannot say.

    • @ratatatuff
      @ratatatuff 7 місяців тому

      Sure, those evil evil advertisers who don't want their ads to appear next to Nazi propaganda, conspiracy theorists and alt-right bs ... Damn, just how naive are you?

  • @mikemonkfish2395
    @mikemonkfish2395 7 місяців тому +4

    Hmm, I think that the analysis in this video is incomplete, either intentionally or through poor research. For example the video mentions 'profit' many times, yet only talks about revenue. Whilst Twitter/X under Musk has poorer ad revenue, reduction in staffing costs and also infrastructure costs are not accounted for or even mentioned. Musk had set a target for a $1B saving in infrastructure costs, perhaps this should have been investigated or at least mentioned, if not then just stick to Ad-revenue as your metric rather than 'Profitability'. Secondly, many may see your reporting of a decrease in active users as an implication that these are humans leaving the platform through some sort of protest. Remember, part of the issues of the takeover was the large number of bot accounts that had been mis-reported by the previous board. Musk has a published objective of reducing bots; he has removed 3rd party apps and api access to X. This will have reduced bot presence on the platform, to what extent would have been an interesting angle, but no, this was not mentioned at all.

    • @JulienDLauriers
      @JulienDLauriers 7 місяців тому +1

      I agree, but it's pretty clear they never intended to do an actual unbias analysis of the situation. They are just milking views from Elon's name.

    • @ratatatuff
      @ratatatuff 7 місяців тому

      That's complete nonsense. There are more bots than ever on "X". It was also not an "issue of the takeover", the issue was that Musk tried to find a way out and he needed an excuse. I don't understand how anyone could be gullible enough to believe Musk's lies.
      Reducing the staff is a meaningless gesture when you don't have ad revenue. Don't try to pretend that even firing everyone would make up more than a tiny and forgettable fraction of the money that Musk lost due to his antics in ad revenue.
      You're just a naive Musk simp.

    • @ratatatuff
      @ratatatuff 7 місяців тому +1

      @@JulienDLauriers That's quite an unbiased analysis. Of course, Musk simps get angry when other people don't praise their daddy.

  • @zenroles
    @zenroles 7 місяців тому

    10:24 Yo that screenshot of Mastodon UI tho 😅

  • @karenwang313
    @karenwang313 4 місяці тому +1

    Mastodon and the rest of the "fediverse" don't stand a chance in replacing twitter. If a seasoned tech enthusiast like me has trouble figuring out how the decentralized network works, there is no way a normie will ever give it a shot. It'll probably stick around as a niche internet community, but not as a mainstream competitor.

  • @gligarguy4010
    @gligarguy4010 7 місяців тому +2

    One thing's for sure - it's impossible to be a good person and be a Twitter Blue subscriber.

  • @AriaLavinde
    @AriaLavinde 6 місяців тому +2

    I think more than just naming one of the Fediverse platforms (Mastodon here), it would have been more accurate to talk about the many platforms that Mastodon can mutually communicate to, like Pleroma, Pixelfed, Misskey, etc. As they have the ability to built its feed wih users across these platforms (like how Pleroma users and Misskey users can show up on Mastodon and vice-versa), making the whole group, surely only merely more potent than what is presented on the graph, but still presenting what can be a good alternative to networks on a rivalry with each other.
    That being said, the video still retains a good point: even if we took the conglomerated Fediverse in comparison, Twitter is still miles away in terms of userbase volume despite decaying a bunch by its poor decisions and management. More than new challengers in my opinion, it would take fatal mistakes on X's part for a better platform concurrency to be restored.

  • @PeterPan-ev7dr
    @PeterPan-ev7dr 6 місяців тому +1

    None - Twitter - X is just having an enormous comeback ..

  • @eufrozinak9461
    @eufrozinak9461 7 місяців тому +10

    i'm really enjoying Mastodon at the moment, it's great

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough 7 місяців тому +1

    Honestly Theads sounds like a nice place for creatives to post about their work and connect with each other... Which is one of the biggest reasons people use X at all.

  • @gnoccialpesto
    @gnoccialpesto 7 місяців тому

    "Oi gone rock shoe" 😂😂

  • @victor38542
    @victor38542 7 місяців тому +2

    I fail understand the argument that Mastodon won't succeed because it doesn't want advertisers. Usually, ads follow users, not the other way around; so I don't think a lack of advertisers is a problem in any way. In fact, I'd consider that a pretty big advantage for users, if only because they won't be the product. Conversely, the presence of advertisers on other platforms, and the monetization of user data by the makers of these platforms, are huge deterrents for a growing number of people who realize the inherent risk to all this, especially when government-business collusion peaks new records every year that passes.
    What did I miss in your video?

  • @SeanTube2099
    @SeanTube2099 6 місяців тому +1

    Good video, but it didn’t mention that Threads is working to make their service compatible with mastodon. So that’s a combined service (eventually).

  • @kevincronk7981
    @kevincronk7981 7 місяців тому +7

    Wait Jack Dorsey started a company to compete with X? Did they not have the brains to have him sign a non-compete agreement when he left as CEO?

    • @bobrossopinions
      @bobrossopinions 6 місяців тому

      He was not ceo at the time. It was that no name guy from india who loves to censor people.

  • @cartelion
    @cartelion 7 місяців тому +3

    Cartelion could replace X

    • @MichaelFomenko
      @MichaelFomenko 7 місяців тому

      Cartelion is great

    • @wavealmas5935
      @wavealmas5935 7 місяців тому

      Im one year on Cartelion, Im not shure if Cartelion is a direct replacement of X, it is more a replacement for Facebook.

  • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
    @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 6 місяців тому +1

    I've always said the only chance is for a billion-dollar company to back a replacement or for a startup to do it WITH VC funding. Only Threads fits one of those criteria. I'm absolutely rooting for it, but it needs community features like trending topics and DMs.

  • @jeffrey93849
    @jeffrey93849 6 місяців тому +14

    Judging from the massive failure of threads it’s clear no platform will replace X, the advertisers are already returning and the domain is the fifth most popular in the world

    • @kstark321
      @kstark321 6 місяців тому +3

      Yeah this video left out a lot of information. I'm sure it wasn't deliberate lmao.

  • @tonygq9267
    @tonygq9267 7 місяців тому +1

    I don't want to be the one who says it but Threads won't replace twitter unless is much less censored (allows sensible content +18), have a trends option and let you login without your IG account.

  • @SSingh-nr8qz
    @SSingh-nr8qz 6 місяців тому +1

    Mastodon is NOT TWITTER and never should be. Twitter or X has always been everything wrong with social media. Mastodon has worked hard to prevent that and that is the reason its smaller but more respected when you actually want to have a thoughtful conversion vs being called a racist or anything under the sun for exploring important ideas.

  • @tomar81
    @tomar81 7 місяців тому +2

    If those big companies stop advertising does it mean there is less ads on X right now or other companies took those slots?
    If they left because they worried X will damage their reputation then how are things right now for companies that stayed? Did any of them got cancelled already or at least you think less of them because they are still there?

    • @teekaa2520
      @teekaa2520 6 місяців тому +1

      X currently has about 90% junk advertisement, meaning advertisement with no established brand behind it. compared to UA-cam where the ratio of junk seems to vary between 10% and 40%. Some classic big spenders seem to have dialed down online advertisement across all platforms. But it makes a better press release if you talk about specifically avoiding X.

  • @thevikingbear2343
    @thevikingbear2343 6 місяців тому +1

    Threads finally got Topics, so now Threads can really be the new Twitter. Until now it was kinda useless without the Hashtags, but now we can have Hashtags (just one epr thread though) and use it properly.

  • @zinussan50
    @zinussan50 7 місяців тому +3

    Blue Sky has possibilities to become BS meme

  • @ReddAngry
    @ReddAngry 7 місяців тому

    0:33
    I bet you guys were so excited to be able to make this quote.

  • @WongInvests
    @WongInvests 7 місяців тому +9

    surprised you didn't talk about Reddit? I've personally stopped using it too be clear I hate the platform but there are a lot of people still using it.

    • @thekingoflordagames3517
      @thekingoflordagames3517 7 місяців тому +9

      reddit isn't an alternative to twitter tho, it's an entirely different structure.

    • @Blorp_
      @Blorp_ 7 місяців тому +10

      Twitter is a blogging website, Reddit is a forum website

    • @xWood4000
      @xWood4000 6 місяців тому

      Lemmy and Kbin are Mastodon compatible alternatives to Reddit then again. But they don't have all the interesting communities that Reddit has

  • @bigbadslimee
    @bigbadslimee 7 місяців тому +2

    none of these alternatives are going to replace x becuase non of them support nsfw content, people don't want to admit it but they are a major driving factor for x's success.

    • @taureon_
      @taureon_ 7 місяців тому +2

      there are mastodon instances for that

    • @jwolternova1051
      @jwolternova1051 7 місяців тому +1

      I believe mastodon and bluesky do, which is also why I know they both have a large furry comunity...

  • @nanopulga098
    @nanopulga098 7 місяців тому +5

    As someone who has used all four. I think Bluesky has the better chance. It's basically twitter again and works fine. It lacks some features but it's still a closed beta so I don't mind it. It feels the most familiar to Twitter while the others don't. Threads is only algorithm based, something not even Twitter was (it still and has always let you use chronological timeline), and it feels full of people who hates the internet in a way? Plus it's owned by Meta and it works terribly in the EU even with a VPN, it's yet another thing Instagram tries to copy and doesn't fully do it. Mastodon is the one that actually feels like tech people, not Bluesky from my experience over the months, a hive mind of tech people who can't accept things can be improved, if you criticise Mastodon they tell you to just find a new instance, so many instances, all with different rules and UI, i hate it.

    • @davidioanhedges
      @davidioanhedges 7 місяців тому +2

      Mastodon is not a Twitter replacement, but then it never was intended to be, If you only saw tech people complaining about twitter, that was just the instance you were on, the advice to pick another one was valid - it's very closed, and group centric ..

  • @juliaschiero659
    @juliaschiero659 6 місяців тому

    How aboUt discord?

  • @ashleyrose.
    @ashleyrose. 2 місяці тому

    Mastodon isn’t a social media, it is social networking

  • @bobbrown8661
    @bobbrown8661 7 місяців тому +2

    Yea nah they wont.

  • @user-bk4pm6me8i
    @user-bk4pm6me8i 7 місяців тому +1

    5:40 Hopefully, they give priority to genuine engagement from real individuals, allowing brands to tailor their marketing strategies accordingly.

  • @CDestroyR
    @CDestroyR 7 місяців тому +1

    Follow the furries that run the whole Internet.
    They went to BlueSky.

  • @shubhankar915
    @shubhankar915 7 місяців тому

    Threads added tags recently

  • @VinceroAlpha
    @VinceroAlpha 7 місяців тому

    I just love how causally nonchalant British people use the f - bomb.😂😂😂

  • @86fuser
    @86fuser 7 місяців тому +2

    LinkedIn has exploded since the whole X madness

    • @DarkFruitsAnimation
      @DarkFruitsAnimation 7 місяців тому +6

      No, it has not. Nobody uses LinkedIn.

    • @Dani-kq6qq
      @Dani-kq6qq 7 місяців тому

      LinkedIn has way more users than twitter and makes way more money. And yeah, im never calling twitter "X".😂@@DarkFruitsAnimation

    • @guizaoacc
      @guizaoacc 7 місяців тому

      Twitter is the fifth most visited website in the world with 5.9 billion monthly visits.
      That is a 9% increase since Musk bought it.
      Linkedin is the 16th most visited website with 1.7 billion monthly visits.
      It decreased 0.2% in the same period.
      So you are lying.

    • @86fuser
      @86fuser 7 місяців тому

      @@DarkFruitsAnimation houkey dad

    • @86fuser
      @86fuser 7 місяців тому

      In my field it has become indispensable. literally found all my jobs through it

  • @AndreAmorim-AA
    @AndreAmorim-AA 7 місяців тому +1

    The Nostr protocol will be truly decentralized, where users actually control their data. Perfect for bitcoiners…

  • @Kyrephare
    @Kyrephare 7 місяців тому +5

    One very big thing that this video misses is how X might kill itself. In a few countries, it started to test a 1$ fee to create a new account. While thats not much, pretty much anyone is going to look at another service first instead of forking over $ buy an account on X. As this video points out, some of the difficulties of Blue Sky and Threads is the inability to just make an account and use the platform directly.
    Not to mention Elon has said that he intends Twitter to be a profitable company, and he is still losing money after cutting staff to the bare bones. Banks got burned with his purchase of X and investors in Tesla arent happy he sold stock to buy X. As such he might have more trouble raising capital for it in the future. So the question is, how long does he let if live under his rule if its seems like a money pit?

  • @alwayslate5490
    @alwayslate5490 6 місяців тому

    Ironically threads came out to Italy Yesterday 😂😂😂 so the video is out of date already lol

  • @RandomPerson-uw1oo
    @RandomPerson-uw1oo 6 місяців тому +1

    Mastodon is my favorite one, I like the idea that no one owns them. Ads may be important to support the creator of the App, but it's ok in Mastodon cause no one owns them unlike literary all other platform in this video, which also mean there's no distraction for users. And it having alot of community like Reddit and Amino, but having all community connected so not needing to join multiple means you won't leave out your friend for joining a community they are not into, and some can also join a community that has a rules they like more too. Lol XD
    At the moment, Mastodon feel like the most community-driven and the more freedom, which is why Mastodon is my favorite. Lol XD
    I don't think open-source automatically make the app good, even more so if it ended up being very complicated for casual people to use in order to become open-source, but if it's both that good and open-source and not all that complicated for casual people to even start using the app then AWESOME! That's why I like Mastodon so much. Don't get me wrong, it is abit more complicated than Twitter but mostly because it had things I never experienced in Twitter before such as a community system like Reddit but with all community connected, not because there's some coding involved like Linux. So it was easy to get used to it after I started using Mastodon. Lol XD

  • @cw6043
    @cw6043 7 місяців тому

    "no search function" is technically invalid... but yes search is less nice than twitter's

  • @Fr_g
    @Fr_g 7 місяців тому

    Threads is launching in Europe tomorrow

  • @MRMixedup
    @MRMixedup 7 місяців тому

    Not Threads launching in Europe a day after TLDR said it's not available due to strict data laws ☠

  • @__Liza__
    @__Liza__ Місяць тому

    Bluesky should change its name and logo. Threads and Mastodon UI are beautiful

  • @wadas9042
    @wadas9042 6 місяців тому

    i dont think people start using program that cancels some topics. if youtube would be new, nobody would start using it.

  • @Newt1969
    @Newt1969 6 місяців тому

    Mastodon: Twitter for people who love Statism. Which is the very ironic.

  • @sidensvans67
    @sidensvans67 6 місяців тому

    So it is true that these companies are blackmailing X Twitter . Hmm

  • @yuvalne
    @yuvalne 7 місяців тому +61

    I'm rooting for Mastodon. not only does its decentralized nature save it from the ever looming threat of the enshittification that killed Twitter, but it's the most feature-full alternative, is the second largest after Threads even without counting the whole Fediverse ecosystem, and is the oldest and most mature of them. plus, it doesn't spy on you.

    • @xt5181
      @xt5181 7 місяців тому +11

      Mastodon is obscure for new users. It requires too much knowledge before even getting started. People will never bother to learn enough to even start using the platform.

    • @yuvalne
      @yuvalne 7 місяців тому

      @@xt5181 open the official app and tell me that it requires too much knowledge. literally guiding you through the steps and even picking a server for you.

    • @joshuahillerup4290
      @joshuahillerup4290 7 місяців тому

      Mastodon feels like the heyday of Google+ for me, without the worry of Google shutting it down. But I think I'm one of the three people on the planet that used Google+

    • @joshuahillerup4290
      @joshuahillerup4290 7 місяців тому

      @@xt5181 what I think might happen is some social media site will end up being federated on Mastadon, maybe several sites, that actually market themselves and sell to advertisers and whatnot. Mastodon itself will just be a technical detail that most users don't care or know about

    • @dennisp8520
      @dennisp8520 7 місяців тому +1

      Mastodon isn’t very good though I tried it and it kinda sucks. I’m rooting for something that isn’t threads by Facebook to crop up but more then likely that will be the replacement

  • @BodyByBenSLC
    @BodyByBenSLC 6 місяців тому

    Hopefully none. We need less social media not more.

  • @duck1123
    @duck1123 7 місяців тому

    Shame that there was no mention of nostr in this.

  • @captainnakou
    @captainnakou 7 місяців тому +1

    oh for f* sake guys seriously you're a news network, you can't say shit like "jake dorsey is behind bluesky" when it's not the case for more than a year, yeah he bootstrapped the project and is technically on the board but it's jay's network now, it's mostly piloted by jay and her dev team and jake like it so much than he deleted his bluesky account and left for Nostr (the twitter clone for cryptobro).

    • @taureon_
      @taureon_ 7 місяців тому

      also theyre wrong about mastodon not having a search function or verification

  • @Financial_Revolution
    @Financial_Revolution 7 місяців тому +1

    Bla bla bla. WHO is paying you?

  • @johnnydoe3603
    @johnnydoe3603 7 місяців тому

    Finally an Admission from Elon
    that he is a Fool. 🤣🤣

  • @ryanhileman3757
    @ryanhileman3757 7 місяців тому +2

    Everyone is mad at youtube 24/7. The dislike button, the algorithm, questionable motives n policies, etc. And alternatives to youtube do exist! They just havent been able to take off due to yt monopoly. Hopefully, twitter is the same story.

    • @davidjennings2179
      @davidjennings2179 7 місяців тому

      Do you mean hopefully twitter's competitors can't take off?

    • @ryanhileman3757
      @ryanhileman3757 7 місяців тому

      @@davidjennings2179 ideally lol. Lets just keep the world simple with one big public square social media. Theres already 5 too many.

    • @davidjennings2179
      @davidjennings2179 7 місяців тому

      @@ryanhileman3757 interesting. What makes you feel like one having a monopoly is better than having many different ones?

    • @ryanhileman3757
      @ryanhileman3757 7 місяців тому

      @@davidjennings2179its not that its a monopoly that makes it better. Its just i dont think social media in general is healthy, and having many of them does 2 things. 1. Isolate people into progressively worse echo chambers as now entire platforms are dedicated to that demographic (view trumps truth network), and 2. Split our already damaged attentionspan between multiple apps sucking up even more time.

    • @davidjennings2179
      @davidjennings2179 7 місяців тому

      @@ryanhileman3757 Don't get me wrong, there is a tonne wrong with social media - I agree with you there - but monopolies don't feel any pressure to improve if they don't feel their customers have an alternative. Ideally they always feel someone is snapping at their heels and need to get better. Echo chambers are terrible but I'm not sure they're really avoidable either - things like trump social are worse, certainly, but people will always find a way to create spaces like that whether it's a Masterdon server or the corner of their local pub if people don't want to hear the opinions of anyone who disagrees they'll make it happen.

  • @WhatsTheCode
    @WhatsTheCode 7 місяців тому

    The dreamers 😅

  • @bryrusmi4001
    @bryrusmi4001 6 місяців тому

    5:36 Twitter isn't a news source, not sure how to characterize it, but not news and I won't touch it.

  • @davidblair9877
    @davidblair9877 7 місяців тому

    I am so grateful that I don’t use Twitter.

  • @KenMathis1
    @KenMathis1 7 місяців тому +6

    Google should relaunch Google+, but this time as a standalone product without forced integration with their other services.

    • @Rafael-vi4to
      @Rafael-vi4to 7 місяців тому +4

      The most privacy invasive service? Bring it back?
      Please no.

    • @KenMathis1
      @KenMathis1 7 місяців тому

      @@Rafael-vi4to What part of "...but this time as a standalone product without forced integration with their other services" did you not get?

  • @marcanthony8873
    @marcanthony8873 7 місяців тому

    The app just launched today in the EU

  • @hifijohn
    @hifijohn 6 місяців тому

    Twitter may go the way of the hyperloop.

  • @ajfrostx
    @ajfrostx 7 місяців тому +4

    Threads already added search and hashtags, and they are removing hard link with Instagram accounts soon. The comparison to Reels also doesn't work as TikTok is as popular as ever while Twitter is actively self-destructing.

  • @bendrihem2002
    @bendrihem2002 7 місяців тому

    views in some X posts in 4 hours is more then the users of all of the alternatives

  • @ThePerks2010
    @ThePerks2010 7 місяців тому

    I'm done with social media no new one will take my fancy unless there's hard guarantees of no data harvesting, otherwise they can all get to f***

  • @WorldWithoutApples
    @WorldWithoutApples 7 місяців тому

    It's about the message.

  • @grrgrrgrr0202
    @grrgrrgrr0202 3 місяці тому

    Twitter just should disappear without replacement.

  • @martinfobert9407
    @martinfobert9407 7 місяців тому +6

    Any of these apps, or one we haven't heard of yet, can take over for X-Twitter. I think it's also still possible that Twitter will take over for 'X' (formally known as Twitter). It's still possible that Musk will f off one day, due to a variety of possible reasons, and whomever takes over reverts it back to what it was. Then there will be a mass return to the platform. If Musk drives the platform into the ground someone can buy it for a fraction of it's current value, restore the app to a previous version, then sell it for billions.

    • @yscol1313
      @yscol1313 7 місяців тому

      Musk himself could decide to revert to Twitter branding… he’s not afraid of admitting his mistakes.

    • @JB-pu8ik
      @JB-pu8ik 6 місяців тому

      ​@@yscol1313right! Because he doesn't make any! 🙄

    • @xWood4000
      @xWood4000 6 місяців тому

      ​@@yscol1313He is very afraid of admitting his mistakes 😂 e.g. the infamous pedo calling case

  • @AndrewTSq
    @AndrewTSq 7 місяців тому +1

    Why would you replace x? With something that fbi has involvement in like threafs? Lol

  • @gideonsteward93
    @gideonsteward93 6 місяців тому +1

    threads sucks, i tried it.

  • @CaiRobinson
    @CaiRobinson 7 місяців тому

    Bluesky is to me the one most set to fail, mastadon works by appealing to subcutures and interest groups. Threads obv has Meta behind it and thus can exisit. But Bluesky just feels pretentious

  • @taipizzalord4463
    @taipizzalord4463 7 місяців тому +9

    Threads once it has a lot of depth in features will still threaten Twitter especially when users migrate to it as they are sick of being rate limited.

    • @cameronmitchell8180
      @cameronmitchell8180 7 місяців тому +1

      People migrate and leave. A bunch of company and generic posts.

  • @MemoryMori
    @MemoryMori 7 місяців тому

    Why we dont just erase all the "social platforms" and go back to forums and like speaking to people face to face?....
    Oh I forgot...snofffffflakes...

    • @davidjennings2179
      @davidjennings2179 7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, you'd get snowflakes claiming you're restricting their freedom of speech

  • @zain7270
    @zain7270 6 місяців тому

    no body

  • @czarcoma
    @czarcoma 7 місяців тому

    The most foolish thing he ever sid on the platform was...
    But it in the first place 😂