I have been suffering for the past 2 years with high levels of prolactin and brief jumps in my cortisol levels. My moods have been all over the place my days just feel like pure shit. My relationship has been affected in ways that are really difficult. But recently I have coke to terms with this and that my moods are not how I feel they are due to the hormones. I’ve continued to work on them and in my relationship causing my love and attention to reform. I thought I was doomed but not giving in to these feelings I have found my love again and have been living a happier life. My partner has been so understanding and has been there for me throughout. I had often thought that I was done in the relationship but have been so glad I didn’t give in and found myself again with my man. We have rekindled ourselves and have made life so much better. I hope all you other girls out there do not give in to these feelings and to those who have not had this. I hope it Dosnt come to you and I hope you choose to keep ur life rather than make it worse. ☺️
Just started caber and feel good, dopamine increase has given me more energy and I feel happier, less stressed. This wasn't Dr prescribed, I'm in UK so easy to find online. When I finish this course I will see how I feel and use a private company to get tested properly and do it right, I just can't wait 6 months to see an endocrinologist on NHS to be told it's my fault for self medication 😏
You guys are ahead of me when it comes to this type of treatment. I'd never even heard of it before Mike mentioned it. So I'm glad to hear you guys are ahead of the curve and finding solutions that work for you.
@@PaoloBroccardo Thanks, I always respect how you say to do it through a DR but it's also great that those of us with some education in the subject are allowed to help ourselves. Peace my dude
@@randomhero2960 If you're in UK, I can't give a site but you can find reviews of sites with feedback. Good luck and Caber seems expensive but it's half or quarter tab twice a week. Pretty inexpensive.
The guy in your case being switched from 250 mg Sustanone every 2 weeks to 1000 mg Neibido every 8 weeks is also a typical case of the BS going on in the medical field. Due to the ester mix in Sustanone he got a much more leveled release of testosterone during these two weeks. On Neibido - although getting the same net amount over 8 weeks - he will get an extremely high peak after the first 2 weeks followed by a six week valley. Doctors seem to be - more often then not - only interested in prescribing the most expensive treatment method. And in this case it is obviously causing additional problems of mood swings and depression due to the extreme swings of testosterone and estradiol levels while on Neibido. If it was not already checked in this case, it might be worth to look in the "free testosterone" levels. For example: excess SHBG's might be gobbling up all his testosterone. The prolactine aspect is very interesting however. In bodybuilding circles cabergoline is widely used to counteract the prolactine buildup caused by compounds like Nandrolone and Trembolone. So sometimes it is worth to do a deep dive in these forums even if you are just on TRT. However as far as I understand it, most doctors will be reluctant or outright refuse to prescribe Cabergoline to anyone except Parkinson's and pituitary gland tumor patients. So you would have to go to the grey market to acquire Cabergoline.
This clip is taken from the full interview I did with Balance My Hormones, where Mike answers your viewer questions. You can view that interview here: ua-cam.com/video/GMMWDXU6k1g/v-deo.html
folic acid lowered my mate prolactin from 900 to 200 in two months. caber is horrible, this is why NHS won't prescribe testosterone.... because of the risk of upsetting hormones. doi g that could lead to depression and suicide or heart attack
I am on Nebido and after 3 weeks my testosterone is at 370 from 198 but my prolactin is through the roof!! I feel horrible! Before Nebido I had prolactin at 10 now is at 18.6 ng/ml but my estradiol is even worse! My esterdiol is 49.58 and previously at 20 pg/ml. Nebido sucks a lot!!!!
My estradiol is 66..feel like poop and cry a few times a week..went to endocrinologist today says he can help....the urologist put me on TRT and isn't worth shit. The kicker is I may be hyper responsive 100mg a week puts me over 1000 test level..on just 100mg.....nads shrank more than normal the endocrine said damn guy you are right...the Urologist didn't even check ....this guy did right off the rip..I unfortunately have had problems on TRT
Hey! unfortunately there are not many doctors who know about this. I have been through many who have given me bad advice and made me feel worse or did not help me. But even from the bad you learn, you could talk to your doctor and consider using a low-dose aromatase inhibitor along with a supplement like DIM or Sam E. To help keep estrogen in line and help prolactin. Cheers
I've just had blood tests done privately as despite telling my Dr I don't feel right a d have no drive for many years I just get turned away as apparently I have to much muscle to have a problem. Well my T is normal at 13nmol but estrogen is rock bottom at 40pmol but 3 tests over 9 months has my prolactin at 600mu. In the past theanine makes me feel great and gets my libido up. Not surprised as it promotes dopamine. Only issue is the effects wear off after a few weeks and it doesn't work again for months of not taking it. I've changed my Dr and I hope the new one listens to me. Any advice guys
If your new doctor isn't able to help, it might be worthwhile investing in private treatment with some one like Balance My Hormones, at least initially so that they can help you find out the root cause of the problem, and a solution.
Unfortunately, dopamine agonists do not help, especially if the blood is macroprolactin. It is not affected by dopamine agonists, as it is generally not secreted by the pituitary gland only by something else. The dopamine agonists are even worse in well-being. My territory is different here. Testosterone itself is a potent dopamine agonist. The problem may be the disturbances in the production of the neurotransmitter dopamine.
@Locutus @vein Interesting points gents. I'd never heard of cabergoline until this conversation, and then again when you guys raised it. There is some research on pubmed regarding cabergoline and positive results. However, as always, the context is important, and one of the more convincing cases related to women, not men. I'm inclined to believe that like most things when it comes to human health, in some cases things like this may have success, and in others not. What's important is that we keep the dialog going and try to learn as much as we can.
@@vein9156 Well - if men have a pituitary gland tumor that leads to extremely high prolactine levels the symptoms will be very obvious i.e. getting gynecomastia and starting to lactate. Besides the Parkinson's patients these are usually the only men who would get a legal prescription of cabergoline.
@@vein9156 So one of the doctors in the endocrinology department at the hospital. Macroprolactin can produce internal organs such as the pancreas, liver ...
I am also suffering from low testosterone and high prolactine after my pitutary tumor surgery my endocrinologist suggest me dostinex tab...when i take medi my sex drive is fine but when i missed medicine a week or a month same problem...how i get rid of this... I'm depressed kindly guide me
Im a teen and my prolactin is at 500 as well. My testosterone is normal, estrogen is also fine. It’s just for some odd reason it is elevated and yeah, I do have the effects of high prolactin.
@@PaoloBroccardo yes ofc, i wrote that i have all of the effects of high prolactin. Meaning all of the sexual sides and my test is lowered a bit for my age because of this.
Paolo Broccardo im 19 yo. No morning wood, lack of bloodflow “down there”, difficulty maintaining, long refractory period. Although, my libido is normal, but I suspect that it is because my test is not completely destroyed.
Hello, I have around 1 000 prolactin which is very high and super low estrogen, my simptoms are mainly depresion low energy low libido. Soon i Will do MRI but im constantly searching how to fix it. All other key hormones around 20 are perfect but i feel my testosterone is low even i cheked it its ok. My beard have bald spots and i have like childish face bones and muscles!
Odd thing I'm noticing 8 weeks into TRT is prolactin going up. I do have a pituitary adenoma and have been on Cabergoline for 4 years. My last scan a few weeks ago showed the adenoma had shrunk for the first time though. So despite that, my prolaction has crept up from 340 to 410 to 425 over the last month. So not getting too concerned, but looks like the TRT might be playing an active role in raising prolactin.
Ray I'm having the same issue. Going for a glucose test for high igf and prolactin is high as well. I don't even feel like I'm on TRT right now and haven't for weeks.
Hello buddy mick here from amsterdam .. gotvmy results for testerone comes n at 15.500nmol/l .. my doc say my t is good and wont refer me to andros clinic arnhem.. so now i need ur help first r my levels low.. and where can i buy cypionate .. how much per month does it cost .. and do u hav an easier way of contacting u if u got time to help me ..
Johnny Sins sure knows what he's talking about.
Nice
I have been suffering for the past 2 years with high levels of prolactin and brief jumps in my cortisol levels. My moods have been all over the place my days just feel like pure shit. My relationship has been affected in ways that are really difficult. But recently I have coke to terms with this and that my moods are not how I feel they are due to the hormones. I’ve continued to work on them and in my relationship causing my love and attention to reform. I thought I was doomed but not giving in to these feelings I have found my love again and have been living a happier life. My partner has been so understanding and has been there for me throughout. I had often thought that I was done in the relationship but have been so glad I didn’t give in and found myself again with my man. We have rekindled ourselves and have made life so much better. I hope all you other girls out there do not give in to these feelings and to those who have not had this. I hope it Dosnt come to you and I hope you choose to keep ur life rather than make it worse. ☺️
Try cabergoline
Just started caber and feel good, dopamine increase has given me more energy and I feel happier, less stressed.
This wasn't Dr prescribed, I'm in UK so easy to find online.
When I finish this course I will see how I feel and use a private company to get tested properly and do it right, I just can't wait 6 months to see an endocrinologist on NHS to be told it's my fault for self medication 😏
Any sites for caber or just Google?
You guys are ahead of me when it comes to this type of treatment. I'd never even heard of it before Mike mentioned it. So I'm glad to hear you guys are ahead of the curve and finding solutions that work for you.
@@PaoloBroccardo
Thanks, I always respect how you say to do it through a DR but it's also great that those of us with some education in the subject are allowed to help ourselves.
Peace my dude
@@randomhero2960
If you're in UK, I can't give a site but you can find reviews of sites with feedback.
Good luck and Caber seems expensive but it's half or quarter tab twice a week. Pretty inexpensive.
@@vein9156
Half every three days seems ok for now, I have no side effects either. You?
The guy in your case being switched from 250 mg Sustanone every 2 weeks to 1000 mg Neibido every 8 weeks is also a typical case of the BS going on in the medical field. Due to the ester mix in Sustanone he got a much more leveled release of testosterone during these two weeks. On Neibido - although getting the same net amount over 8 weeks - he will get an extremely high peak after the first 2 weeks followed by a six week valley. Doctors seem to be - more often then not - only interested in prescribing the most expensive treatment method. And in this case it is obviously causing additional problems of mood swings and depression due to the extreme swings of testosterone and estradiol levels while on Neibido. If it was not already checked in this case, it might be worth to look in the "free testosterone" levels. For example: excess SHBG's might be gobbling up all his testosterone. The prolactine aspect is very interesting however. In bodybuilding circles cabergoline is widely used to counteract the prolactine buildup caused by compounds like Nandrolone and Trembolone. So sometimes it is worth to do a deep dive in these forums even if you are just on TRT. However as far as I understand it, most doctors will be reluctant or outright refuse to prescribe Cabergoline to anyone except Parkinson's and pituitary gland tumor patients. So you would have to go to the grey market to acquire Cabergoline.
I really hope my prolactin levels are high, and that reducing them will help me solve my problems
This clip is taken from the full interview I did with Balance My Hormones, where Mike answers your viewer questions. You can view that interview here: ua-cam.com/video/GMMWDXU6k1g/v-deo.html
@@vein9156 you make me want to take proviron lol
folic acid lowered my mate prolactin from 900 to 200 in two months. caber is horrible, this is why NHS won't prescribe testosterone.... because of the risk of upsetting hormones. doi g that could lead to depression and suicide or heart attack
How much?@@andrewwright.
Simple straight forward advice.
Wow some over complicate TRT and discuss to a level way above my head. Thanks again 💪🥇🇦🇺
definitely not going back to have 2nd dose. Don’t play with your hormones unless your testosterone is very low it’s not worth it
I am on Nebido and after 3 weeks my testosterone is at 370 from 198 but my prolactin is through the roof!! I feel horrible! Before Nebido I had prolactin at 10 now is at 18.6 ng/ml but my estradiol is even worse! My esterdiol is 49.58 and previously at 20 pg/ml. Nebido sucks a lot!!!!
My estradiol is 66..feel like poop and cry a few times a week..went to endocrinologist today says he can help....the urologist put me on TRT and isn't worth shit.
The kicker is I may be hyper responsive 100mg a week puts me over 1000 test level..on just 100mg.....nads shrank more than normal the endocrine said damn guy you are right...the Urologist didn't even check ....this guy did right off the rip..I unfortunately have had problems on TRT
Hey! unfortunately there are not many doctors who know about this.
I have been through many who have given me bad advice and made me feel worse or did not help me.
But even from the bad you learn, you could talk to your doctor and consider using a low-dose aromatase inhibitor along with a supplement like DIM or Sam E.
To help keep estrogen in line and help prolactin.
Cheers
I've just had blood tests done privately as despite telling my Dr I don't feel right a d have no drive for many years I just get turned away as apparently I have to much muscle to have a problem. Well my T is normal at 13nmol but estrogen is rock bottom at 40pmol but 3 tests over 9 months has my prolactin at 600mu. In the past theanine makes me feel great and gets my libido up. Not surprised as it promotes dopamine. Only issue is the effects wear off after a few weeks and it doesn't work again for months of not taking it. I've changed my Dr and I hope the new one listens to me. Any advice guys
If your new doctor isn't able to help, it might be worthwhile investing in private treatment with some one like Balance My Hormones, at least initially so that they can help you find out the root cause of the problem, and a solution.
When he says consistently above 3, what does he mean by 3??
Unfortunately, dopamine agonists do not help, especially if the blood is macroprolactin. It is not affected by dopamine agonists, as it is generally not secreted by the pituitary gland only by something else. The dopamine agonists are even worse in well-being. My territory is different here. Testosterone itself is a potent dopamine agonist. The problem may be the disturbances in the production of the neurotransmitter dopamine.
@Locutus @vein Interesting points gents. I'd never heard of cabergoline until this conversation, and then again when you guys raised it. There is some research on pubmed regarding cabergoline and positive results. However, as always, the context is important, and one of the more convincing cases related to women, not men. I'm inclined to believe that like most things when it comes to human health, in some cases things like this may have success, and in others not. What's important is that we keep the dialog going and try to learn as much as we can.
@@vein9156 It will only work on prolactin from the pituitary. It will not work on macroprolactin which is not secreted by the pituitary gland.
@@vein9156 Well - if men have a pituitary gland tumor that leads to extremely high prolactine levels the symptoms will be very obvious i.e. getting gynecomastia and starting to lactate. Besides the Parkinson's patients these are usually the only men who would get a legal prescription of cabergoline.
@@vein9156 So one of the doctors in the endocrinology department at the hospital. Macroprolactin can produce internal organs such as the pancreas, liver ...
Disturbances in the production of dopamine like what for example?
My prolactin levels are 20000 my testosterone levels are 3.6
I am also suffering from low testosterone and high prolactine after my pitutary tumor surgery my endocrinologist suggest me dostinex tab...when i take medi my sex drive is fine but when i missed medicine a week or a month same problem...how i get rid of this... I'm depressed kindly guide me
Im a teen and my prolactin is at 500 as well. My testosterone is normal, estrogen is also fine. It’s just for some odd reason it is elevated and yeah, I do have the effects of high prolactin.
Why does that worry you? Are you experiencing any issues because of this?
@@PaoloBroccardo yes ofc, i wrote that i have all of the effects of high prolactin. Meaning all of the sexual sides and my test is lowered a bit for my age because of this.
Dextor - how old are you and what are your (physical) symptoms mate?
Paolo Broccardo im 19 yo. No morning wood, lack of bloodflow “down there”, difficulty maintaining, long refractory period. Although, my libido is normal, but I suspect that it is because my test is not completely destroyed.
@@D2_receptor did you fix it?
Hello, I have around 1 000 prolactin which is very high and super low estrogen, my simptoms are mainly depresion low energy low libido. Soon i Will do MRI but im constantly searching how to fix it. All other key hormones around 20 are perfect but i feel my testosterone is low even i cheked it its ok. My beard have bald spots and i have like childish face bones and muscles!
Get a full thyroid panel bro, also check for antibodies and reverse T3. Might be an auto immune problem.
dear dr, I have microprolactinoma of 7.5x5.5 mm. how long it will take to get rid of this tumor with cabergoline. timeline?
Odd thing I'm noticing 8 weeks into TRT is prolactin going up.
I do have a pituitary adenoma and have been on Cabergoline for 4 years. My last scan a few weeks ago showed the adenoma had shrunk for the first time though. So despite that, my prolaction has crept up from 340 to 410 to 425 over the last month.
So not getting too concerned, but looks like the TRT might be playing an active role in raising prolactin.
Ray I'm having the same issue. Going for a glucose test for high igf and prolactin is high as well. I don't even feel like I'm on TRT right now and haven't for weeks.
Curt Walter my Igf level has been right at the maximum of normal for a few years now.
Apparently in the context of having an adenoma, elevated estrogen can increase prolactin and it’s resistant to cabergoline.
Hello buddy mick here from amsterdam .. gotvmy results for testerone comes n at 15.500nmol/l .. my doc say my t is good and wont refer me to andros clinic arnhem.. so now i need ur help first r my levels low.. and where can i buy cypionate .. how much per month does it cost .. and do u hav an easier way of contacting u if u got time to help me ..
And ways to lower prolactin say without Cabergolin?
Increase dopamin
L tyrosine , L theanine and B vitamins
My age is 47 and not pregnant. My prolactin is 51.9.
What is 500 converted to ng/mL?
Does high prolactin decrease SHBG?
My test is high and everything is normal but prolactin is high? Why is this guys?
Same here. Have you figured out why?
He should take a testosterone with a short ester
Its cus u need caber