I just bought a MagBox and Creative Gels right before this came out. I'm so so excited to try this out!!! Thank you for bringing these recipies to life, it's truly MAGnificent!! 🙏😃👍 Big thanks to Pye as well for explaining the framework clearly and all the awesome personality he brings 😎
Quick thought. So you were keeping your skin tones more natural but you have different ambient color. That’s the gist of what I’m getting. The photos are fantastic by the way thank you. I haven’t learned how to mask and or remove objects. Thanks again.
Does anyone know what is the process called at the 3.22 mark. With the plate shot and how it can be later removed with photoshop! Trying to find the tutorial for beginners! Thank you 😊
Hello there! Excellent teaching. Let’s see if I got it right. 1-The correction you do in camera is with white balance only? 2- The correction put emphasis on keeping more or less the subjects the same to just change the scene’s ambient color different, right?
Every gel has its temperature in K, so yes you change only the white balance. For example 1/2 CTO you should put your cameras white balance on 3200K. This works for changing the complete ambient for creative result like in this video, or to adjust your flash for correct white balance when artificial lightning is bad (very warm lightbulbs or similar).
Great tutorial. I shoot mostly family portraits on the beach during sunset. I try to blur out the background, using 2.0 or wider f-stops. Why did you use f14?
Pye might be able to add to this, but our guess would be that because he was shooting quite a bit before sunset, that he needed to darken the sky down a bit in order to get some color in it. So he brought his ISO as low as it goes, put his shutter speed at the flash sync speed which is typically 1/200th or 1/250th speed, which left him with closing down the aperture in order to darken the scene down even more. In this case all the way to f14. Had he shot this photos closer to sunset or even after sunset he could have used a lower aperture. So the short answer is he used f14 to simply darken down the exposure in camera, after he had already pushed ISO and Shutter Speed to their lowest settings while using flash.
I think this way he can have sky details kept sharp and in focus with the f14. He specifically underexposed the scene to bring out those sky details, so I understood the goal here was not to make the background blurry. Just my guess
I get what you’re saying here but I think the question I have is…why would I add gels if I’m just going to have to cool down or warm up the image in post or in camera! Why not just leave the flash alone and warm up subjects in post? I’m new to flash photography and clearly don’t have a good understanding of white balance. Is the goal to just change the look of the entire scene, with the goal of getting the same skin tones, regardless of flash gel color? Someone give me the why and when we would want to do this and make the corrections!
It's more about having the ability to control the subject and background color independently. You can choose to make your light blend in or stand out with color as well as exposure. For example, I use a CTB during sunsets so i can add more orange in post without my subject looking like they got a bad spray tan
It would you would just need to make even more dramatic shifts in the white balance, something that often times are cameras don't have the ability to do, so you would need to make the change in a program like Lightroom later. Ideally the correction gels are best for these scenarios but I once had to use an Orange and Blue gel when in a pinch and was able to get it to work in Lightroom.
Often times it depends on the time of day and personal preference in the look. But as a starting point when using 1/2 blue (trying to get warmth in sky) I usually will push my Kelvin to 7000, and Full Blue to 9000K. When using 1/2 CTO (trying to get coolness in sky) I will usually go about 4000K and full CTO to 3000K. From there I will shoot and make minor adjustments to the white balance to get the look I am after. Hope that helps. - Trevor
You can definitely do it afterwards as well. I enjoy doing it camera because it is super fun to turn the camera around and share with your clients. It's always a great reaction to the sky you were able to capture with a little bit of light and color magic.
That is correct. Use the white balance to change the entire scene. Then pick the opposite color (complimentary color) as the gel for your flash. Now wherever the light from your gelled flash touches it will offset the white balance change you made in camera to make the light on your subject look regular while leaving the rest of your scene (like the sky behind them) change.
@@hollyjostudios two things to help with saturation of color. Make sure you are shooting the scene underexposed a bit and the closer your flash is to your subject will help with that as well. We have a few other videos highlighting this same trick that might be helpful to watch as well as there might be some tips in there that can help you out.
Actually it's super fun to show your clients the back of the camera after making an epic sunset behind them and letting them see your ability to create magic in the camera. Every time I do it my clients get super excited.
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I just bought a MagBox and Creative Gels right before this came out. I'm so so excited to try this out!!! Thank you for bringing these recipies to life, it's truly MAGnificent!! 🙏😃👍
Big thanks to Pye as well for explaining the framework clearly and all the awesome personality he brings 😎
Thank you for the great comment. We can't wait to see the MAGic you create on your next shoot.
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Quick thought. So you were keeping your skin tones more natural but you have different ambient color. That’s the gist of what I’m getting. The photos are fantastic by the way thank you. I haven’t learned how to mask and or remove objects. Thanks again.
Yep exactly. It’s a great method to create the ambient you want.
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Can I put these corrective gels on the Profoto Speedring directly or do I need to put them inside a modifier?
Love the video ❤. Any way to have a video on using corrective gels in real estate photography?
Hi there! We don't currently but we will add it to our idea list :)
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I follow the entire video which was great. Couldn't follow the magenta settings which I assume you made in Lightroom ???? or in camera (somehow) ???
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Does anyone know what is the process called at the 3.22 mark. With the plate shot and how it can be later removed with photoshop! Trying to find the tutorial for beginners! Thank you 😊
Hello there! Excellent teaching. Let’s see if I got it right.
1-The correction you do in camera is with white balance only?
2- The correction put emphasis on keeping more or less the subjects the same to just change the scene’s ambient color different, right?
Every gel has its temperature in K, so yes you change only the white balance. For example 1/2 CTO you should put your cameras white balance on 3200K. This works for changing the complete ambient for creative result like in this video, or to adjust your flash for correct white balance when artificial lightning is bad (very warm lightbulbs or similar).
Is the AD200 strong enough to use with gels if you're not shooting in mid-day bright daylight?
I wish they were made for Broncolor. Can they handle the strong power?
Why are these gels discounted on the magmod website?
Nice. Also, there's no Instagram for your assistant. Here we always support any way we can
In the first pic without gels why did you shift magenta +14? The light is white outside
Great tutorial. I shoot mostly family portraits on the beach during sunset. I try to blur out the background, using 2.0 or wider f-stops. Why did you use f14?
Pye might be able to add to this, but our guess would be that because he was shooting quite a bit before sunset, that he needed to darken the sky down a bit in order to get some color in it. So he brought his ISO as low as it goes, put his shutter speed at the flash sync speed which is typically 1/200th or 1/250th speed, which left him with closing down the aperture in order to darken the scene down even more. In this case all the way to f14. Had he shot this photos closer to sunset or even after sunset he could have used a lower aperture. So the short answer is he used f14 to simply darken down the exposure in camera, after he had already pushed ISO and Shutter Speed to their lowest settings while using flash.
@@MagnetMod But he began at ISO 400. Why not widen the aperture and shoot at ISO 100?
I think this way he can have sky details kept sharp and in focus with the f14. He specifically underexposed the scene to bring out those sky details, so I understood the goal here was not to make the background blurry.
Just my guess
I get what you’re saying here but I think the question I have is…why would I add gels if I’m just going to have to cool down or warm up the image in post or in camera! Why not just leave the flash alone and warm up subjects in post? I’m new to flash photography and clearly don’t have a good understanding of white balance. Is the goal to just change the look of the entire scene, with the goal of getting the same skin tones, regardless of flash gel color? Someone give me the why and when we would want to do this and make the corrections!
It's more about having the ability to control the subject and background color independently. You can choose to make your light blend in or stand out with color as well as exposure. For example, I use a CTB during sunsets so i can add more orange in post without my subject looking like they got a bad spray tan
Would this work with the darker gels??
It would you would just need to make even more dramatic shifts in the white balance, something that often times are cameras don't have the ability to do, so you would need to make the change in a program like Lightroom later. Ideally the correction gels are best for these scenarios but I once had to use an Orange and Blue gel when in a pinch and was able to get it to work in Lightroom.
So when using these gels, the 1/2 blue orange magenta, what will I change my Kelvin to.
Often times it depends on the time of day and personal preference in the look. But as a starting point when using 1/2 blue (trying to get warmth in sky) I usually will push my Kelvin to 7000, and Full Blue to 9000K. When using 1/2 CTO (trying to get coolness in sky) I will usually go about 4000K and full CTO to 3000K. From there I will shoot and make minor adjustments to the white balance to get the look I am after. Hope that helps. - Trevor
@MagnetMod when you using a green and orange, what would you put your Kelvin to
If i add blue and green gel at the same time I have to compensate with warm + magenta tint? Is it possible?
Great question and idea. Try it out tonight and let us know how it goes. We'd love to see your results!
rookie question: Why would you change white balance in the camera after gels instead of just doing it in Lightroom afterwards?
You can definitely do it afterwards as well. I enjoy doing it camera because it is super fun to turn the camera around and share with your clients. It's always a great reaction to the sky you were able to capture with a little bit of light and color magic.
You may not want the effect all over the photo, and cardinal rule, do as much as possible during shoot, reducing the amount you have to do in post
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2 AD200s ???
This doesn’t seem to work. It’s lighting up the whole scene. So if I change the color or temperature, the whole scene changes with it.
That is correct. Use the white balance to change the entire scene. Then pick the opposite color (complimentary color) as the gel for your flash. Now wherever the light from your gelled flash touches it will offset the white balance change you made in camera to make the light on your subject look regular while leaving the rest of your scene (like the sky behind them) change.
@@MagnetMod Understandable.. I believe I have to turn up the saturation as well to get a deeper color?
@@hollyjostudios two things to help with saturation of color. Make sure you are shooting the scene underexposed a bit and the closer your flash is to your subject will help with that as well. We have a few other videos highlighting this same trick that might be helpful to watch as well as there might be some tips in there that can help you out.
as a photographer I really appreciate the learning curse!.. BUT customers dont really care for this kind of stuff..
Actually it's super fun to show your clients the back of the camera after making an epic sunset behind them and letting them see your ability to create magic in the camera. Every time I do it my clients get super excited.