Honestly the part I love most about the Death Knight is that they actually used the same Hero Power that Amaz had in his own DK concept all the way back in 2014
I mean, it's pretty obvious. I know several people who had something similar or the same in their own DK theorycraft (I even played with the idea myself, except I didn't have die at the end of the turn). There are only so many ways to make a hero power since they tend to emulate 0 cost cards and that doesn't have a lot of room in budget to do interesting things. Like we saw DH have to break the mold and have a 1 mana hero power, creating new space. We are very close to tapped out for possible 2 mana cost hero powers, so I am curious what people have for their monk hero power actually...
Gnome Muncher says "Lowest Health Enemy" which means it's sometimes a 5/6 Lifesteal charge. If it sticks, and your opponents have no minions, its a 5/6 windfury with lifesteal, hitting your opponents face for 10 damage. Cool card.
While it is really cool, it’s pretty complicated and really out of flavor for the core game functions of hearthstone. A lot of new players are going to have a hell of a time trying to figure it out.
@@djLagwayEnjoyer Stagnation is how a game dies. It remains to be seen how well they can capitalise on the potential of this mechanic, but the core idea of runes is sound and there's no reason for it not to be in the game.
@@victoriarhode8948 I wish it had been there from the beginning honestly. Specializations were a thing in the WoW TCG that Hearthstone was based on, and I think it helped balance certain aspects of the game. Everybody got the opportunity to be “broken” because they could print the most powerful cards and lock them behind specific specializations. You can’t mix and match, so a Holy Priest can’t use Discipline or Shadow talents. I honestly wish a specialization system had been in place from the beginning, with Death Knights being the first who used 3 slivers of specialization instead of all or nothing. Kinda fits the DK class.
@@djLagwayEnjoyer It's perfectly fine for a game to have more complex classes that are harder for new players. Every fighting game includes characters that are easy to play and ones that are hard. If someone new to the game has a hard time with DK they've got every other class to play until they're ready, which will all be new to them, too.
I would love to see a "deckbuilding effect" like Renathal that reads if your deck has no duplicates you get more rune slots, so we can play around with all (or close to it) death knight cards in one deck in a restricted way since they are obviously not meant to be played together but with no duplicates I think it can be fine
Definitely feels like they're leading in with single-rune-type cards and keeping more complex combinations for future releases as a strategy to freshen things up.
@@BradGreer I hope so!!! I love the idea of different combinations of runes on cards. Could be really flavorful. Kind of like Magic the Gatherings colors. Different combos in cards
that system is legit just how deckbuilding works in Infinity Wars, though instead of just being a color choice kinda thing it's moreso like commander purity via the EDH format in Magic, but it is cool lol
@@laffecaffelott Best guess would be that they restrict the DK card pool to just 1-rune cards so that you can always have an option to pick from every type.
Just love how this opens up so many creative deck combinations. The decks I want to try first are a two blood runes and one unholy rune, and another with all three frost runes.
I already have my deck in head,and very control heavy dk,with ability to boardwipe,heal,and to also include two devourers,denthrium,sylvanas,murlocula for more healing,and infusrd clown for res. generation.
Runes felt sort of gimmicky and unreasonably complicated to me when they were first announced but it looks like they really executed them well and I'm very interested in how they play with them going forward
First thing I noticed about Gnome Muncher is that it can ignore big taunts. Opponent has a huge taunt when they're really low, pass turn and Gnome Muncher hits face!
thanks for this, always love your videos. this xpac is making me interested in playing HS again. Haven't played since Castle Nath but really enjoyed Barrens+Unite+AV+Sunken era
I saw the MotLK reveal live stream in my UA-cam feed the other day. It was interesting to see 2K live viewers on a reveal for a Hurthstone expansion. Shizzard must feel very confident in their design team, because the amount of balancing work they've added to the game is humongous. Not just is there another full class, but that class has specializations that require balancing. Those of use who used to play World of Warcraft know how difficult balancing specs has been for that team. All in all, I wish Hurthstone and its players the best of luck!
Look at the blue tattered "shirt/tabard" on the Skeletal sidekick, it's the same colour as the beaming sidekick. So the undead is actually a dead beaming, kind of a cool touch.
Please bring Specs for every class. It’s literally a perfect representation of actual wow talent trees and imo one of the coolest ideas they’ve had in YEARS
Really hope they expand the rune aspect to the other classes, in some form or another, since it seems like a fun balancing mechanic for deck builders to work through, and net deckera can just copy paste like always.
Man it's been a long time since I've been active in Hearthstone, like pre-descent of dragons era, so it's cool to be around when a cool new expansion is dropping
We got a Naga sylvanus portrait as a 'What if she were born earlier?' I think it'd be cool to see one where instead of Breaking the crown and opening the Shadowlands it's a portrait where she put it on
I hope they have a special reaction if you play the lich king when you play as the death knight like well hello handsome. And I know they didn't let you fight the lich king as the demon hunter but I hope they update that single player adventure for the death knight :D
Patchwork might be one of my favorite cards ever made. I am so tired of getting rolled because people have a key minion in their deck (that, if killed, basically makes them auto concede). I’ve always thought they should make more cards with deck disruption.
I've seen a lot of doomsaying regarding Patchwerk, but I reckon it's no better than Mutanus and Theotar. Mutanus is good because it's often a big tempo swing as well as disruption, and Theotar is good because it gives you a lot of control in which card to take; Patchwerk does neither. It'll see play, but I don't think it'll be the backbreaking menace that people make it out to be.
@@nopenope6150 It isn’t a big threat, no, at 4/6. But deleting three of the opponents minions from their deck/hand/battlefield? That is gonna be nuts for control match ups. Killing a minion the battlefield helps to gain some board control, then hitting a minion in hand (which for some decks can only be a handful of things in the late game), and as a bonus deleting one from the deck? It’s not gonna win you the game every time. Some decks won’t give a shit. But for people running Druid with Bran + delete your entire health because you have infused dude? That’s the deck I want to be countered. I use Mutanus and 5 mana swap guy just to counter that one minion. Other than some other creative decks that catch me off guard, that’s what I lose to because you can’t get your life above 80. The only way to beat that deck is to rush them down (which i never do since I’ve played control since Beta).
Ah yes a class built around freeze mage + combo. I'm sure there will be no problems with this one. Class looks super cool though honestly. Excited to see the rest of it.
Why would you want every class to be full of deckbuilding restrictions? The freedom to put together a deck of your own instead of being railroaded into a build is one of the main attractions of card games. You can play a stealth Rogue without having to limit yourself to only Stealth Spec cards. You can create deck themes without having your arm twisted by a restriction to do so. Speccing in DK is interesting because it is unique. If it was everywhere, it would get real obnoxious real fast. It pushes designs that will lead to hefty power creep because if you're going to restrict yourself to a specific spec, you expect a reward more powerful than your generic good card. Else, why spec at all? The best card in DK should be standalone better than the best card in every other class because other classes can combine those cards with anything while DK can't. The end result will likely be that DK decks will wind up just stuffed to the brim with high spec requirement cards that are so powerful it blows everyone else out of the water. Deckbuilding restrictions often only end up mattering in the deckbuilding phase. Once you're playing the game, it doesn't matter what cards are NOT in your opponent's deck when the cards that ARE in there are all backbreaking.
@@lMarcusl MTG, the game that inspired Hearthstone, uses a spec system since its inception and it makes the game much more interesting than Hearthstone because you can't just pick the best cards your class has, you have to decide which ones you want and spec your deck that way. DK is at a huge disadvantage compared to other classes. Their triple spec cards need to be op in order to compete, because other classes can combine every op card they have into one deck, which by the way is very boring and mindless. Restricting access via a spec system forces you to make decisions, and decisions are fun. There is another advantage as well. Since it divides classes into sub-classes, you need less cards in your collection to compete, since you won't need 3 class legendaries in order to compete, as your spec won't allow all of them.
@@ninototo1 Well, conversely you might also really need a chunky DK collection cause if you have just a bit of all the various specs, you don't potentially have enough ammo to build any of the specs into a reasonably decent deck. If your collection is leaning in the wrong way, like you have a triple Blood legendary but none of the good Blood cards, you're boned. The comparison to MtG is not quite appropriate I think because while yes, you do technically "spec" your deck in MtG, you're also not restricted by class in MtG. You have access to the entire range of existing cards to "spec" into and get to choose which ones are worth the investment and which are not. In Hearthstone, your speccing is restricted entirely to a very small subset of cards: DK cards. Neutrals offer some more variety but are generally not the workhorses of any deck so those are more of a filler, and all the cards for other classes are unavailable to you. If DK is to have 3 dedicated triple rune specs plus X number of hybrids, you have to be able to assemble all of that from just the 50-something cards the class has access to. Every expansion will be adding some 8 new class cards and those 8 cards, split into 3 different specs, potentially lead to a dedicated Frost spec deck getting like 2 cards it can even consider per expansion. The spec restriction will likely lead to a lot problems down the road, between railroading and limited influx of new cards, I'm not sure it's even something worth the benefits it brings. I would definitely not want to see this implemented anywhere outside of the DH class.
what this really looks like is they are adding specializations in for the rest of the classes in upcoming content as well. from a design perspective the only reason death knights had to have this heavy restriction right out the gate is there was no other way they could balance it.
Plague Strike looks pretty insane imo. Is flexible too, you can even use it in your own minions in case you can't kill an enemy with it and get one more fodder to feed your corpse counter. Also only one green rune needed to put it into a deck, so seems like a really splashable card for midrange/controlish decks.
Gnome muncher is interesting, due to it being able to attack the enemy hero automatically if they have lower health than their minions. Generally, they're already losing if that's the case. But, I can see some niche situations where you can get around a board of life stealing taunts and whatnot, and especially if they have a lot of armor but low health. It's just interesting to me, don't mind me lol.
You can technically gain 60 additional health from neutral generation cards....so you could get up to 110 health. 1 method is controlled so you can controlled generate at least +20 additional generate.
Something I find interesting that people who might not play World of Warcraft or DKs in WoW might not know: The Hearthstone team has actually done something unique in that they are taking abilities that are from one spec in the game and altering them in order to meet the requirements of what they want the sub specs to be. Example being Obliterate which needs 1 Blood but is a Frost spell in WoW and Corpse Explosion which is 2 blood but is actually an iconic Unholy Ability. But it makes sense. Both are heavy control spells in Hearthstone and Blood is the control sub spec. I actually don’t mind it. I think it avoids some of the trappings of the WoW TCG itself where they tried to make things line up with the game as much as possible.
I'm glad it's not the case, but I'm also a little sad that patchwerk isn't just a massive pile of stats with no special effects. Feels almost weird to see him with mechanics.
I think that rune mechanic is THE thing that will save hearthstone. It's a fantastic addition and i hope they do that on every class. Such a cool way to balance card combinations. Making the weaker cards of every class available for each rune combination. OP cards being limited to not interact with other OP cards. We'll see. By the way, they tooked their time to have that shadowspell mechanic.
I would bet half of my fortune that future HS will have these rune ( = talent) mechanism for every class. It will spice things up, it can push out more op cards while being able to limit unwanted combos etc, as well as it will be more loyal to the World of Warcraft style with talent trees/specs.
I like the idea of DK. The idea that with the rune system and strong cards all over the place, that DK will be a class with multiple decks focused on different concepts or abilities. The question will be if people will be willing to play "unoptimal" decks that use different rune combinations or will only one deck be found to be strongest and that's all people will play. In theory DK should be able to balance itself but HS tends towards meta gaming pretty hard for most people instead of just playing decks for fun. So, who knows.
People will always meta game and use the one set that pros say is "optimal". In truth you can easily beat them by countering their "optimal" decks and even if pros come up with them, there will be other good options. But sadly most people mindlessly copy the pros so eventually you will run into the same 3 decks forever. Hearthstone is sooo much more fun if everyone has a different deck though.
I like the runes idea. This hopefully means they can have some really cool cards without having it be too broken in combination. A card game with classes sounds good.
Haven't played or watched Hearthstone in over 6 years. But when I read that they are finally adding Lich King I couldn't believe it. Didn't even know if Trump was still making Hearthstone videos.
The runes could realistically be applied to every class. Every class card in the game could have a level of specialization into each of their wow talent trees. Too late for Hearthstone, but Hearthstone 2, maybe? Also don't forget to take note of Blood Boil's usage against an enemy board that can't attack.
6:25 Not like 'Rush'. More like 'Charge' with requirements. 15:33 The real nerf of Snowfall Guardian was the removal of the +1/+1 for each frozen minion.
The deckbuilding for death Knights could be very great or very Bad. Going a Lot into 1 color will make your deck stronger. But Splitting into 2 or even all 3 colors will give you more versatility. The Problem is they need to Balance it so either Option stays viable. Or we will only See one Type of Deck( either 3x 1 color or all 3 colors)
they should update all the classes over time like this, except instead of runes it could be different specs like from WoW (example: A paladin could have holy, retribution, or protection etc)
I’m going to assume if you discover a rune card as deathknight if it doesn’t have the runes you have might not work seeing how the rune is next to the cost.
Funnily enough, reminds me a lot of the Mox system from Inscryption. Obviously you don't play the runes to the board, but picking the runes at the start is sort of analogous to picking your mox balance.
I’m very curious if DK are gonna get weapons. According to lore, they should get weapons 100%. But we haven’t seen any yet. That’s only one of many questions I have for Blizzard.
@@leeartlee915 They had Frostmourne in the reveal trailer I think. Though that might be generated by the Lich King. Anyways I'm very sure they will get weapons and I'm sure they will hit hard.
@@ninototo1 Wasn’t Frostmourne a generated card from before? The one that spits out enemies it’s killed? I always loved that weapon but back in old hearthstone, it was hard to regenerate life. Now you can start at 40 and build up lots of armor. Anyways, it looks like this is gonna be a good expansion. I left HS for a few years but have been dabbling in it again. It still frustrates me to no end sometimes but it’s okay from time to time.
That's crazy... this is fantastic marketing since I was just coming out of the game. This feels like a class that I'd dust my other classes for. It's a single class that seems like it can do SO much stuff. I'm mainly worried for how this is going to go in the future. With the way it's looking Death Knight seems to want more cards in general, and unless it gets unfair treatment it might be a little screwed with new sets coming out
Honestly the part I love most about the Death Knight is that they actually used the same Hero Power that Amaz had in his own DK concept all the way back in 2014
Omg yeah thats where I remember it from
I was waiting for it and I smiled when it was predicted from so long ago
Holy shit you're right
I mean, it's pretty obvious. I know several people who had something similar or the same in their own DK theorycraft (I even played with the idea myself, except I didn't have die at the end of the turn).
There are only so many ways to make a hero power since they tend to emulate 0 cost cards and that doesn't have a lot of room in budget to do interesting things. Like we saw DH have to break the mold and have a 1 mana hero power, creating new space. We are very close to tapped out for possible 2 mana cost hero powers, so I am curious what people have for their monk hero power actually...
@@Tinil0 I'm thinking 2 mana return a random friendly minion to your hand
Gnome Muncher says "Lowest Health Enemy" which means it's sometimes a 5/6 Lifesteal charge. If it sticks, and your opponents have no minions, its a 5/6 windfury with lifesteal, hitting your opponents face for 10 damage. Cool card.
I wonder if you could have a taunt minion with more hp than your hero and they just bypass it and kill face
@@devilsblade2543 It would bypass the Taunt. Taunt only stops targeted attacks, not random attacks.
@@MysteryMan16 taunt stops manually targeted attacks*
This is straight up one of the coolest gimmicks I've seen added to hearthstone. I adore the rune mechanic
I actually really hope the "rune" system (they could reflavor it or whatever) makes its way to the other classes for some cards too honestly.
While it is really cool, it’s pretty complicated and really out of flavor for the core game functions of hearthstone. A lot of new players are going to have a hell of a time trying to figure it out.
@@djLagwayEnjoyer Stagnation is how a game dies. It remains to be seen how well they can capitalise on the potential of this mechanic, but the core idea of runes is sound and there's no reason for it not to be in the game.
@@victoriarhode8948
I wish it had been there from the beginning honestly.
Specializations were a thing in the WoW TCG that Hearthstone was based on, and I think it helped balance certain aspects of the game.
Everybody got the opportunity to be “broken” because they could print the most powerful cards and lock them behind specific specializations.
You can’t mix and match, so a Holy Priest can’t use Discipline or Shadow talents.
I honestly wish a specialization system had been in place from the beginning, with Death Knights being the first who used 3 slivers of specialization instead of all or nothing. Kinda fits the DK class.
@@djLagwayEnjoyer It's perfectly fine for a game to have more complex classes that are harder for new players. Every fighting game includes characters that are easy to play and ones that are hard. If someone new to the game has a hard time with DK they've got every other class to play until they're ready, which will all be new to them, too.
There definitely needs to be a tri-color legendary, would be hard to make work but encouraging mixing runes would be cool
I would love to see a "deckbuilding effect" like Renathal that reads if your deck has no duplicates you get more rune slots, so we can play around with all (or close to it) death knight cards in one deck in a restricted way since they are obviously not meant to be played together but with no duplicates I think it can be fine
Definitely feels like they're leading in with single-rune-type cards and keeping more complex combinations for future releases as a strategy to freshen things up.
@@BradGreer I hope so!!! I love the idea of different combinations of runes on cards. Could be really flavorful. Kind of like Magic the Gatherings colors. Different combos in cards
Wouldn't that technically just be runeless
@@dinothedinosaur69 A runeless card could still be added to a 3-blood, 3-unholy, or 3-frost deck. A tricolor card could not.
Finally. Can't believe quillboar got a tribe before undead
I suspect it was partly a technical issue where they didn't want to add Undead until they had the ability to give a minion two tribes.
@@Watdee also quillboar were a bigger addition to battlegrounds than constructed.
@@evansaschow furthermore they aren't in standard at all
I was thinking the same thing!!
@@evansaschow only thing thta matters/mattered in standard with them really is n'zoth god of the deep
Another important thing about Skeletal Sidekick, your Ghoul from the hero power is an undead. You always have access to a good target for it.
2 mana wolfrider pog
@@nicolarobatto7469 technically still 3 mana
He mentioned this at one point but not while talking about the +2 attack guy, which was certainly my most immediate thought when I saw the card.
The level of thematic gameplay for the new class makes me hope that they will go back and revamp the old classes.
I know it's a tall ask, but my biggest wish is that every class will eventually get a unique non-keyword mechanic like Death Knights do with corpses.
I just hope it will be better than priest's revamp lol
I'd love a "rune' system for each hero. Build some classes.
The Rune system is really cool. I almost wish we had it for all classes.
that system is legit just how deckbuilding works in Infinity Wars, though instead of just being a color choice kinda thing it's moreso like commander purity via the EDH format in Magic, but it is cool lol
Imagine you can build shadow priest, holy priest or both
And mage with arcane, frost and fire
seems fun but how in the hell is this gonna work in arena
@@laffecaffelott Best guess would be that they restrict the DK card pool to just 1-rune cards so that you can always have an option to pick from every type.
waana appreciate the editor for all these well edited video. no excess memes, just clean and well edited!
Just love how this opens up so many creative deck combinations. The decks I want to try first are a two blood runes and one unholy rune, and another with all three frost runes.
All cars not out yet
I already have my deck in head,and very control heavy dk,with ability to boardwipe,heal,and to also include two devourers,denthrium,sylvanas,murlocula for more healing,and infusrd clown for res. generation.
I’ll be going triple unholy runes for the ultimate DK aggro deck!
@@ThallanarRabidtooth blood deffo here, cuz i hate aggro.
Runes felt sort of gimmicky and unreasonably complicated to me when they were first announced but it looks like they really executed them well and I'm very interested in how they play with them going forward
Death Knight + Infuse sounds like an OP combination
Unholy infuse? Fuuuuuck, that’s gonna be b r u t a l xD imagine getting to just… double up on all of your infuse cards.
I really like the idea of a card in the future using one each of two different runes, or even one of each, as a way to add more balance a card
10:32 They dont call him *The Madman* for nothing
He's already going mad with value
He only wants to cast Vampiric Blood twice before playing Reno. That's mild.
@@Elias_Ehler THEMILDMAN
First thing I noticed about Gnome Muncher is that it can ignore big taunts. Opponent has a huge taunt when they're really low, pass turn and Gnome Muncher hits face!
thanks for this, always love your videos. this xpac is making me interested in playing HS again. Haven't played since Castle Nath but really enjoyed Barrens+Unite+AV+Sunken era
Can't wait for the videos of him going insane trying to figure out the best rune setup for a 40 cards highlaner dk.
Can't wait for Lord Marrowgar to yell BOOOONESTOOOORM! every time he attacks.
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To note, in frost, you can use a brann denathrius combo again with the mana refresh.
2 Frost 1 Unholy spec max Sire let's go!
I saw the MotLK reveal live stream in my UA-cam feed the other day. It was interesting to see 2K live viewers on a reveal for a Hurthstone expansion.
Shizzard must feel very confident in their design team, because the amount of balancing work they've added to the game is humongous. Not just is there another full class, but that class has specializations that require balancing. Those of use who used to play World of Warcraft know how difficult balancing specs has been for that team.
All in all, I wish Hurthstone and its players the best of luck!
It's honestly a bit sad that Breath of Sindragosa was "wasted" as mage spell all the way back.
so true. maybe dk will get something like reindeer breath to compensate
Look at the blue tattered "shirt/tabard" on the Skeletal sidekick, it's the same colour as the beaming sidekick.
So the undead is actually a dead beaming, kind of a cool touch.
Trump reviewing cards is just the best thing ever
Please bring Specs for every class. It’s literally a perfect representation of actual wow talent trees and imo one of the coolest ideas they’ve had in YEARS
would be too much effort to do it for all the other classes
Really hope they expand the rune aspect to the other classes, in some form or another, since it seems like a fun balancing mechanic for deck builders to work through, and net deckera can just copy paste like always.
Yeah having "specs" is kinda dope
I wonder if corpses will only ever be a death knight mechanic, it could be the precursor to a more standardised graveyard system
Corpses are confirmed to only be a death knight mechanic and other classes cannot randomly generate cards that require corpses to be played
@@javyz6197 It's also nice that the enemies can't make good use of them when they steal corpse cards
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@@sev5032 the last 4 minutes of the video
There was some cutting error in the end where you could hear two different clips at the same time
The music from the WotLK trailer is still beautifully haunting. Blizzard really did make some good trailers.
Man it's been a long time since I've been active in Hearthstone, like pre-descent of dragons era, so it's cool to be around when a cool new expansion is dropping
it's interesting they decide to add deck building mechanics like renathal and runes so late in hearthstone's life
We got a Naga sylvanus portrait as a 'What if she were born earlier?' I think it'd be cool to see one where instead of Breaking the crown and opening the Shadowlands it's a portrait where she put it on
The legend of the Bitch King.
The less we see of sylvanas the better.
I'm just happy Trump is still making HS vids, what a throwback from the UA-cam algo.
I hope they have a special reaction if you play the lich king when you play as the death knight like well hello handsome. And I know they didn't let you fight the lich king as the demon hunter but I hope they update that single player adventure for the death knight :D
Going full Blood rune with Daddy D seems very strong and fun, maybe constructed will be good for the first time in months.
Two questions:
1) What does Justicar do?
2) What does Whizbang do?
Patchwork might be one of my favorite cards ever made. I am so tired of getting rolled because people have a key minion in their deck (that, if killed, basically makes them auto concede). I’ve always thought they should make more cards with deck disruption.
I've seen a lot of doomsaying regarding Patchwerk, but I reckon it's no better than Mutanus and Theotar. Mutanus is good because it's often a big tempo swing as well as disruption, and Theotar is good because it gives you a lot of control in which card to take; Patchwerk does neither. It'll see play, but I don't think it'll be the backbreaking menace that people make it out to be.
@@nopenope6150 how is destroying a minion and summoning a 4/6 not tempo swing?
@@nopenope6150 It isn’t a big threat, no, at 4/6. But deleting three of the opponents minions from their deck/hand/battlefield? That is gonna be nuts for control match ups. Killing a minion the battlefield helps to gain some board control, then hitting a minion in hand (which for some decks can only be a handful of things in the late game), and as a bonus deleting one from the deck? It’s not gonna win you the game every time. Some decks won’t give a shit. But for people running Druid with Bran + delete your entire health because you have infused dude? That’s the deck I want to be countered. I use Mutanus and 5 mana swap guy just to counter that one minion.
Other than some other creative decks that catch me off guard, that’s what I lose to because you can’t get your life above 80. The only way to beat that deck is to rush them down (which i never do since I’ve played control since Beta).
Amaz exact hero power concept from years ago
So love the flavor. Everything is spot on. The only thing im wondering is how oblitirate ended up being a blood care instead of frost.
Because blood cards have health effects. And Obliterate has one.
Ah yes a class built around freeze mage + combo. I'm sure there will be no problems with this one.
Class looks super cool though honestly. Excited to see the rest of it.
Sadly, can't have death knights without the frost spec. It's a must.
@@ShamliseG true but they didn't have to build it around face damage
Every class needs this "spec" system
Why would you want every class to be full of deckbuilding restrictions? The freedom to put together a deck of your own instead of being railroaded into a build is one of the main attractions of card games. You can play a stealth Rogue without having to limit yourself to only Stealth Spec cards. You can create deck themes without having your arm twisted by a restriction to do so.
Speccing in DK is interesting because it is unique. If it was everywhere, it would get real obnoxious real fast. It pushes designs that will lead to hefty power creep because if you're going to restrict yourself to a specific spec, you expect a reward more powerful than your generic good card. Else, why spec at all? The best card in DK should be standalone better than the best card in every other class because other classes can combine those cards with anything while DK can't. The end result will likely be that DK decks will wind up just stuffed to the brim with high spec requirement cards that are so powerful it blows everyone else out of the water. Deckbuilding restrictions often only end up mattering in the deckbuilding phase. Once you're playing the game, it doesn't matter what cards are NOT in your opponent's deck when the cards that ARE in there are all backbreaking.
@@lMarcusl
MTG, the game that inspired Hearthstone, uses a spec system since its inception and it makes the game much more interesting than Hearthstone because you can't just pick the best cards your class has, you have to decide which ones you want and spec your deck that way. DK is at a huge disadvantage compared to other classes. Their triple spec cards need to be op in order to compete, because other classes can combine every op card they have into one deck, which by the way is very boring and mindless. Restricting access via a spec system forces you to make decisions, and decisions are fun.
There is another advantage as well. Since it divides classes into sub-classes, you need less cards in your collection to compete, since you won't need 3 class legendaries in order to compete, as your spec won't allow all of them.
@@ninototo1 Well, conversely you might also really need a chunky DK collection cause if you have just a bit of all the various specs, you don't potentially have enough ammo to build any of the specs into a reasonably decent deck. If your collection is leaning in the wrong way, like you have a triple Blood legendary but none of the good Blood cards, you're boned.
The comparison to MtG is not quite appropriate I think because while yes, you do technically "spec" your deck in MtG, you're also not restricted by class in MtG. You have access to the entire range of existing cards to "spec" into and get to choose which ones are worth the investment and which are not. In Hearthstone, your speccing is restricted entirely to a very small subset of cards: DK cards. Neutrals offer some more variety but are generally not the workhorses of any deck so those are more of a filler, and all the cards for other classes are unavailable to you. If DK is to have 3 dedicated triple rune specs plus X number of hybrids, you have to be able to assemble all of that from just the 50-something cards the class has access to. Every expansion will be adding some 8 new class cards and those 8 cards, split into 3 different specs, potentially lead to a dedicated Frost spec deck getting like 2 cards it can even consider per expansion.
The spec restriction will likely lead to a lot problems down the road, between railroading and limited influx of new cards, I'm not sure it's even something worth the benefits it brings. I would definitely not want to see this implemented anywhere outside of the DH class.
If you want clever deckbuilding and agency just play a different game, this is just a cosplay
@@ninototo1 can't work unless there are more cards available to choose from. MTG actually supports that argument.
what this really looks like is they are adding specializations in for the rest of the classes in upcoming content as well. from a design perspective the only reason death knights had to have this heavy restriction right out the gate is there was no other way they could balance it.
O reallly hope so
Plague Strike looks pretty insane imo. Is flexible too, you can even use it in your own minions in case you can't kill an enemy with it and get one more fodder to feed your corpse counter. Also only one green rune needed to put it into a deck, so seems like a really splashable card for midrange/controlish decks.
why not hero power and trade? same effect and you keep the card! Still a very strong card indeed.
So excited for DK to be highest win rate control, aggro, and combo deck
Omg trump your singing of the lich king theme was just perfect
I love that the runes are similar to Magic the Gathering's color system.
I am thrilled for this expansion, it's gonna be so cool watching you play it.
Gnome muncher is interesting, due to it being able to attack the enemy hero automatically if they have lower health than their minions. Generally, they're already losing if that's the case. But, I can see some niche situations where you can get around a board of life stealing taunts and whatnot, and especially if they have a lot of armor but low health. It's just interesting to me, don't mind me lol.
Damn, if this also comes with some sweet Single Player stuff like a Dungeon Run it'll be tough to not dip a toe in.
nice throw back outro music from the last time deathknights were around lol
the most important question, WHAT WILL THE UPGRADED DK HERO POWER BE?!
Probably makes a 2/2 instead of 1/1
@@seank5358 or!!!
It loses the "It dies at the end of the turn" OR it mirrors paladin and summons TWO
@@christopherbronson3275 I don't think the former is a buff, since DK wants them to die. I think summoning 2 is the best upgrade
I've been wanting resource systems like runes for a long time, hopefully one day we get soul shards for warlocks and things like that
The risen minions might not leave a corpse but they do count for denathrius, unholy deathknights could really build up a massive denathrius
0:00 INTRODUCTION
1:25 Death Knight hero power
2:16 Death Knight rune system
3:04 RUNELESS CARDS
3:16 Icy Touch
4:02 Skeletal Sidekick
4:53 BLOOD RUNE CARDS
5:10 Obliterate
5:58 Gnome Muncher
6:46 Patchwerk
7:54 Corpse Explosion
8:50 Blood Boil
9:36 Vampiric Blood
11:30 FROST RUNE CARDS
11:49 Glacial Advance
12:08 Defrost
12:28 Acolyte of Death
13:06 Frost Strike
13:45 Overseer Frigidara
14:18 Horn of Winter
15:07 Frostwyrm's Fury
16:00 UNHOLY RUNE CARDS
16:27 Graveyard Shift
17:11 Plague Strike
17:44 Dark Transformation
18:12 Battlefield Necromancer
19:43 Army of the Dead
20:21 Lord Marrowgar
21:47 FINISHING THOUGHTS
10:57 "And then the opponent will be in despair" *Add evil laugh*
You can technically gain 60 additional health from neutral generation cards....so you could get up to 110 health. 1 method is controlled so you can controlled generate at least +20 additional generate.
Something I find interesting that people who might not play World of Warcraft or DKs in WoW might not know:
The Hearthstone team has actually done something unique in that they are taking abilities that are from one spec in the game and altering them in order to meet the requirements of what they want the sub specs to be.
Example being Obliterate which needs 1 Blood but is a Frost spell in WoW and Corpse Explosion which is 2 blood but is actually an iconic Unholy Ability.
But it makes sense. Both are heavy control spells in Hearthstone and Blood is the control sub spec.
I actually don’t mind it. I think it avoids some of the trappings of the WoW TCG itself where they tried to make things line up with the game as much as possible.
These rune cards are a fantastic mechanic. Superb for balancing!
im wondering what death knight in duels looks like
I'm glad it's not the case, but I'm also a little sad that patchwerk isn't just a massive pile of stats with no special effects. Feels almost weird to see him with mechanics.
Horn of winter looks like a super nice combo card... can't wait to try frost Knight with malygos
I haven't played HS for a long time, but this is increadible.
I think that rune mechanic is THE thing that will save hearthstone. It's a fantastic addition and i hope they do that on every class. Such a cool way to balance card combinations. Making the weaker cards of every class available for each rune combination. OP cards being limited to not interact with other OP cards. We'll see.
By the way, they tooked their time to have that shadowspell mechanic.
I would bet half of my fortune that future HS will have these rune ( = talent) mechanism for every class. It will spice things up, it can push out more op cards while being able to limit unwanted combos etc, as well as it will be more loyal to the World of Warcraft style with talent trees/specs.
0:10 - For a second, I thought this was turning into a DogDog stream
Paladin Hero power should be summon 1/1 silverhand recruit with taunt at this point.
Yes...
Has it been specified yet if they'll be adding the Undead tag to older minions?
Yes that’s confirmed
I like the idea of DK. The idea that with the rune system and strong cards all over the place, that DK will be a class with multiple decks focused on different concepts or abilities. The question will be if people will be willing to play "unoptimal" decks that use different rune combinations or will only one deck be found to be strongest and that's all people will play. In theory DK should be able to balance itself but HS tends towards meta gaming pretty hard for most people instead of just playing decks for fun. So, who knows.
People will always meta game and use the one set that pros say is "optimal". In truth you can easily beat them by countering their "optimal" decks and even if pros come up with them, there will be other good options. But sadly most people mindlessly copy the pros so eventually you will run into the same 3 decks forever. Hearthstone is sooo much more fun if everyone has a different deck though.
First time it went private - but it’s back now
That intro. Give this men an Oscar.
I like the runes idea. This hopefully means they can have some really cool cards without having it be too broken in combination. A card game with classes sounds good.
Haven't played or watched Hearthstone in over 6 years. But when I read that they are finally adding Lich King I couldn't believe it. Didn't even know if Trump was still making Hearthstone videos.
Haven't been excited for Hearthstone in a long while. The Death Knight class is definitely bringing me back to the game!
I miss the original video where Trump was voicing over Trump at the 20 min mark with the greenscreen in the back.
i like the rune idea, i wish all classes get this system
This kinda works like the bones from Inscryption, super cool concept, pretty cool they implemented it.
I like how blizz is acually 7 years or more behind the fans who created the deathknight class as a yt video
looking forward to the prince renethal vampiric blood reno deck, 1 match=1 hour video o/
Blood boil in a freeze deck could be a pretty interesting combo
The runes could realistically be applied to every class. Every class card in the game could have a level of specialization into each of their wow talent trees. Too late for Hearthstone, but Hearthstone 2, maybe?
Also don't forget to take note of Blood Boil's usage against an enemy board that can't attack.
6:25 Not like 'Rush'. More like 'Charge' with requirements. 15:33 The real nerf of Snowfall Guardian was the removal of the +1/+1 for each frozen minion.
Hm since this isn't all the cards, i wonder if he'll have any resurrection cards, if so marrowgar can be even more insane with the corpses...
The deckbuilding for death Knights could be very great or very Bad.
Going a Lot into 1 color will make your deck stronger. But Splitting into 2 or even all 3 colors will give you more versatility.
The Problem is they need to Balance it so either Option stays viable. Or we will only See one Type of Deck( either 3x 1 color or all 3 colors)
I really hope we'll get all 4 of the Horseman, or even Bolvar Lich King as DK skins at some point. My favorite is Nazgrim!
Where can I find that nice background image?
they should update all the classes over time like this, except instead of runes it could be different specs like from WoW (example: A paladin could have holy, retribution, or protection etc)
Can someone explain the joke at 5:50 with obliterate? I don't get it.
I’m going to assume if you discover a rune card as deathknight if it doesn’t have the runes you have might not work seeing how the rune is next to the cost.
Very cool concept, hope it will not be ruined by discover cards.
Neutral discover cards are king
So is that immune jailer card also work with The new hero power from death knight?
Which decks will be for my golden whizz?
I wonder if there'll be any one rune of each type cards?
how is arena going to work with the rune system?
Sire in frost can combo with bran with de mana refresh
so will rogue be able to play any cards with runes oooor .....?
corpse explosion is guaranteed board clear right?
1 mana 2 damage cards (Icy Touch) are really good they counter Irondeep Trogg you have to evaluate cards as answers to the meta
Funnily enough, reminds me a lot of the Mox system from Inscryption. Obviously you don't play the runes to the board, but picking the runes at the start is sort of analogous to picking your mox balance.
corpses is bones too i reckon
I’m very curious if DK are gonna get weapons. According to lore, they should get weapons 100%. But we haven’t seen any yet. That’s only one of many questions I have for Blizzard.
They will. We didn't see a lot of cards.
@@Careidina342 So what do you think, will it be a buff kind like paladin or big hitting like warrior? Or something completely new?
@@leeartlee915 They had Frostmourne in the reveal trailer I think. Though that might be generated by the Lich King.
Anyways I'm very sure they will get weapons and I'm sure they will hit hard.
@@ninototo1 Wasn’t Frostmourne a generated card from before? The one that spits out enemies it’s killed? I always loved that weapon but back in old hearthstone, it was hard to regenerate life. Now you can start at 40 and build up lots of armor.
Anyways, it looks like this is gonna be a good expansion. I left HS for a few years but have been dabbling in it again. It still frustrates me to no end sometimes but it’s okay from time to time.
@@leeartlee915 Yeah me too. I'm sure I will have fun tho.
That's crazy... this is fantastic marketing since I was just coming out of the game. This feels like a class that I'd dust my other classes for. It's a single class that seems like it can do SO much stuff. I'm mainly worried for how this is going to go in the future. With the way it's looking Death Knight seems to want more cards in general, and unless it gets unfair treatment it might be a little screwed with new sets coming out