DISAPPOINTING! Reason 13, Spectralayers 11, New plugins & more (WNN)
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
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CHAPTERS
00:00 intro
00:24 spectralayers 11
01:54 reason 13
03:56 gamepad control
04:57 people are mad about vocalign 6
06:44 outro
#musicproducer #musicproduction #musicproducers
Unpopular opinion. I love Reason and the new Polytone synth is inspiring.
most people that actually got it, think that
I hate the browser, it's popup only and can't be changed back, won't be updating till they put it back or give an option to have it on the left side again
Ye.. that pop up is strange.
Reason was fun…in 2003-2005(?) because you could press tab and “do the cables”.
LOL!
You still can :)
While other brands now do rack style multi instruments Reason is still the only one that you can see the back of and wire together.
I learned how to route actual gear from using reason back in the day. I’m not a big fan now because it’s chasing these daws when it should just do it’s thing as a virtual studio. Rebirth is and was sick, figure is sick. Idk i feel like other saws ruined the vision of Propellerhead
You still can
I think the browser is actually the most significant upgrade in Reason 13. They went back and tagged their 50'000 stock patches, which, let's be honest, none of us will go through in our lifetimes, but it massively improved searching for things to get inspired with, or even flat out use.
Ripley is pretty cool. Yeah sure it's yet another delay-reverb-shimmer-saturation-distortion-multifx but it's very usable and fun.
Polytone is... eh. It's a generic subtractive synth and it's fine at what it's trying to do. One really good thing is the A/B thing, because you get to not just mix the two sounds (i.e. audio volume crossfade), but also blend them (i.e. actual knobs morphing between the two patches). Still, just another retro-ish synth, i'd call it Subtractor 2.0. It's fine as the Default Synth for putting ideas down.
Stereo Tool is neat (sounds really good! better than the old stock stereo imager), the other 2 are just convenience for what you could already do, but they have some neat tricks too.
Other than that they've rearranged menus and made the sequencer a bit more like Studio One, but it's still 5+ years behind competition.
Correction: 10 years behind competition
Dream Weaver
Spectralayers is so much better than RX11. Version 11 really is a quality of life update (the whole ai thing is marketing of course), but thats not to say version 11 isnt stellar.
Spectralayers has given everything that users have asked for in 10 and 11 expands upon this for the workflow. Its hard though when you have a marketing / executive team that is probably requiring devs to hype up features unnecessarily. What they dont realize is that a lot of times this takes away from the success of the product as you are setting expectations higher than what is required to appreciate the awesomeness of the software.
Not being able to drag a clip from Ableton directly into Spectralayers though is a hindrance. This is where sometimes it is just easier to use RX11 de-click (which I think is the best product in RX11 and is the one module that does better than competitors anyway)
If you are just trying to get vocals separated I would still recommend UVR as it is FREE. The amount of work (and money of buying the software) isn't really worth it if that is your only use case. Processing on the vocal afterward probably would hide any difference you would get anyway. (Depends on genre of course)
… I like the new Reason Update 😭 The new synth, delay and stereo tool is what i need and it makes me happy
It's alright but I just bought bitwig which is. Away better daw for the same price as the reason update
@@owenbulliss2378 If Bitwig works for you then thats great! But honestly I myself find the Ableton and Reason workflow more suitable for me
@@owenbulliss2378 Thats your opinion not fact.
I haven't updated yet, they are good divices but I didn't need them.
Reason 13 upgrade a new synth, and a delay for $199?!?!?! No thanks!
There is 20% discount, but It's still too expensive if you come from 12.
No there are other updates and obviously more coming in all the update coming until 14.
they will end up reducing the price because nobody will pay that, I paid £75 for the reason 12 upgrade
"But wait, there's more!
We also included tools that you might already have from the Rack Extension Store.. ..which is where we got the ideas for those tools in the first place.
We've also made the browser into a floating window.. ..and, for your inconvenience, removed 'device favorites list' you may have developed over the years..
...because who needs all their favorite instruments, eq's, compressors, reverbs, etc organized in one place..
..when you can search for devices by name of the plugin developer." - Reason Studios
@@coldskoolbeatz the direction since the new ceo took over has been toilet
Reason should add a performance mode or some kind of clip launcher
Kyle Beats is the best news anchor for music production news
Spectralayers 11 is super cool I've been using it and its implementation with ARA Chef's Kiss
Love this video. Thanks for being awesome. I would definitely love to see more max devices in the mix for wnn/plugin police.
Now that Reason finally natively supports Apple silicon, I'm gonna try it. Although the OTP license not containing all their plugins is a massive turn-off. Seems like Logic and FL are really the only options (out of the big names) for those of us who don't sh!t money.
@4:10 I've always wanted to use my controller's analog stick as an XY pad for MIDI automation. It would be nice for recording effects automation. Two analog sticks and I can control 4 MIDI parameters? sounds great to me!
YES. You're the first 'influencer' that has actually stated what I've been screaming on twitter for days. Mad respect for you, because you're actually just deadpan serious and dismissive about it and saying exactly what it is and then moving on.
6:12 omg I made it to one of your videos and you disagreed with me, I can die happy now
also I really do sometimes get better and faster results with Ableton's complex pro, mostly when VU can't figure out the timing properly and those manual sync point are not doing anything remotely close to what I'm expecting them to, and I've also found that VU can often have far worse stretch artifacts than complex pro
in my experience VU only works well when vocals just need a bit of a squeeze to get them perfectly aligned, and unfortunately I often need it to do quite a bit more than that
Don’t think there’s been an even number update that was worth it since the introduction of rack extensions and that was a .5 update from 6. Stuck with 10 till I got 12 at a discount and going to stick with that for as long as I can. I still have a lot of stuff I made with Pro Tools and Reason via rewire and the new method with reason as a plug-in within other DAWs can be a complete chore to deal with when it comes to automating instrument parameters.
My cat said that he wanted that bag, so he gave it a like! 😂🐱
I miss reason. Loved combinator and its still unrivaled in usability. WAS AWESOME TO MAKE DESTRUCTIVE DELAY LINES IN. Still cant find plugins that allow audio to be routed back to the input for feedback lines... But what a cash grab.
Reason devices are the usual high quality however they are not that special as they once where because We can buy a huge amount of 3rd party rack devices. I think the updats are good but nowhere near other Daws like FL Studio, in terms of midi edit functions.
the ableton gamepad thing is a funny coincidence because literally only a few days ago i figured out that a couple of fl's controllers like the x-y and x-y-z ones actually have this kind of functionality integrated so you can automate shit using your gamepad's analog inputs. it's fun
The company that makes VocAlign makes revoice which on top of alignment it does pitch and volume matching with a tight or loose slider that will make a lot of vocal layers sound so damn good.
As a reason user I do think that the main reason problem is the wxtra steps u need to do to do some "easy things"
The Spectralayers makes it sound like radio. :) It reminds me of all them tapes from the 90s like Hemisync mind entrainment provided by CIA fronts. Now we all can have the sound of self improvement! It is the sound of Manchuria. I actually am so close to getting reason after I found out you can use them as plugins. Weaver but the hardcore gamers be like jdlkeajflewjgalkwjlke;ajgljlkwsjhglkjalkhjgklj and it is magical. This will add a new dimension to Live speed running for sure.
you're my favorite samoan youtuber
I have. Wii modular controller from Addac it’s seriously rad
As someone who has used both, Spectralayers kills Izotope RX.
Control midi with cool flight simulator gear!!!!!!
The game thing could be useful - ps5 controller has two xy joysticks and xy Force Touch pad (something all midi controllers lack) not to mention all that with motion tracking. If the software is fleshed out it could be extremely useful and stop the price gouging with stuff like the Touché
Hmmm... im actually super happy with the new Reason Update. I would actually say its the best one they've released in many years.
I won't upgrade Reason VST for $200. Nothing significant is being added for users no longer using the DAW, the new devices for the VST can all be replaced with stock devices from other DAWs. The modulation and routing offered by using the cables is obsolete. Reason is trying to milk customers with this upgrade or by joining a subscription model. For the price, I would recommend getting any other DAW that cares for their users, even if it is as a glorified VST plugin. I think if you offered reason devices only as VST more people would use Object or Parsec. I.E. The 20% discount currently for old users is a slap in the face. Reason needs to get things together if they want to remain somewhat relevant. Their announcement video currently has only 8k views and 215 likes vs 150 dislikes from 202k subscribers is looking bad.
Then dont upgrade then, they uave to make money like every other brand, do they get it right all the time no, are they the best brand out there, no. There Ableton system for 11 was good with lite $99, Standerd $300, Suite $500 then with 12 it was $500 standard, or $20 a month subscription. That lost them a huge amount of long turm users who never come back, there was so much hate and it a decision made bybthere new CEO. I dont think the rack system with cables is obviously, but there is very good FREE VCV Rack which has the exact same moduler wire system. I love Reason and I want to support there brand but they are not perfect at all but still do enough right for Me to stick but saying that I went from Reason 4 to 12, used 4 for over 10 years. Not sure if I'll update to 13 yet.
Has Reason 13 for Mac been cracked yet?
Reason can't be cracked since version 5
@@tsmpungose1986 That's not true any more. Code Meter was cracked a couple of years ago. They moved on to a different copy protection since then so I'm not certain 13 has been cracked.
@@tsmpungose1986 Why not?
They're registration/license protocol changed after 5, i dont know the details but every crack I've found from 6 onwards is absolutely useless.
@@tsmpungose1986 Reason is so outdated compared to every other DAW. It sounds like their licensing system is the only thing they have managed to keep updated
Surprised you didnt cover that news that all those record labels are looking to sue udio / suno for ip theft.
is this real??
@@iamsyntact yeah article is up on billboard
No objekt?
If i wasn't using studio one/6 I may found value in upgrading from reason 10 to 13.
While of course I don't know your workflow, I would say Reason 12 alone is worth the upgrade because
1. you will be able to use it as a VST inside Studio One (with an arguably better mixer and sequencer) and
2. the HD rack instruments look gorgeous, plus
3. players in Reason rack are fun
4. messing with CV and cables in Reason rack can be fun
Reason 13 part of the upgrade could be worth it for you if you'd find value in using the new browser to go through some of the 50'000 stock patches that ship with Reason.
pulsar was good no one is running out of ideas there’s generally an small offset between papers written in places like mit iit and Cemi etc and when people begin implementing them for to be explored by the public if they go no further….. and I can name three independent plugin makers who are dominating at the moment.
"thank you kyle beats" we all say in unison
As a dev myself, I used to worship Reason devs up to 11, but since then, they lost their way. I just wasted three hours trying to record anything in 13, MIDI clock not sent to devices, record enabled tracks when I didn't expect them to be, weird MIDI sync signals sent to my synths...I'm really sad, the best piece of software out there just got lost in translation. That's too bad really. Not sure I'll open the standalone anytime soon, I'll stick to the rack plugin, whenever I remember I have it..sad reality but that's how it is anyways 😕
it went super down hill when the new ceo took over
Couldn't you always just map a game controller to midi and use that to trigger things in Ableton (or whatever DAW) ?
New Hoest just dropped
Side brain is dope
nonsense! Spectralayers is way better than iZotope RX in these days! We are here in post pro and audio restauration. We don´t care about modern "Unmix Stems"...
SL 11 = highly recommend. BTW, Spectralayers is cheap compared with iZotope RX (now Native Instruments!!) or other audio restauration competitors.
watch out for the kyle beats impersonator
Wtf reason? Where was my multiband combinator with built in band splits for multiband tool building and a new patch eco system for sales?…I have more ideas but this was my biggest wish lol.
For me, it's an inferior upgrade compared to most former upgrades. An analog synth like hundreds of others without any creative approach, tools which are available with the same functions (and even more functions) for free. An overhaul of the sequencer without true improvement of workflow. And all this for 199€/USD to upgrade? Thanks, but no thanks. It may be useful for people who need Silicon support but for those who don't need this compatibility upgrade, it's not worth the price tag in my opinion.
Reason 12 is already silicon supported if you have that.
This is not al, the update there will be more coming but I really qant stem separation from them to be honest no the new instruments are not special to Me, they are Reason Studios great quality but I think they should let 3rd partys make there new devices so they can spend all there time and resources updating the DAW and Rack.
@@Noldy__ I am running on Windows. So I didn't check if R12 also supports Silicon :)
@@HOLLASOUNDS I own and upgrade Reason since R5 and I'm familiar with their intermediate updates. However, the intermediate updates are mostly minor. As said, if someone is satisfied with this upgrade and willing to pay 200 Bucks for it, here you go.. For me it's not worth the money for different reasons. I didn't use Reason since R11 anymore due to its aged sequencer and due to the fact that I can use the devices as VST Rack in other DAWS - I upgraded to R12 mainly for the high resolution GUI (resulting in a higher readability of the rack). But R13 does not offer anything interesting for me. Only stuff I have tons of it already. Propellerhead once brought really innovative devices into Reason but R13 isn't like that at all (and R11 and R12 didn't either to be honest). The innovative devices are sold separately as RE and I am sure Reason Studios will pursuit this way in the future (the bare minimum within an upgrade to justify the price and sell the interesting stuff as RE for almost the same price tag). In the end, DAWs are always a matter of taste and what workflow a musician prefers.
@@skadimusic Great comment and I agree, there it apears since Plus subscription come about the stand alone DAW gets minimal new devices. 12 had the new Combinator 2 and I thought that was great and thought I would be making tons of custom Combinators with and designing My own graphics but no, I haven't finished even one Combinator, also I think they should of made a ton of half rack devices and have that as a modular system specifically designed to make Combinators with. 12 had Mimic sampler that wont get an update to do stems if they did get stems it would be a new device.
When Reason releases an "update" I suddenly feel free to splurge 200 bucks on something else.
Anything else.
Last time I got a discounted Maschine 3.
This time I got a 2nd hand iPad and Cubasis 3.
Much better value than the slightly different filing system and a soft synth Reason was offering.
I wonder what I'll get next time. 😂
I hate that they use the worst beats possible for demos 😒
:)
Use artifacting to you’re advantage
Stumbled 😂
I don't get all the Reason hate. I love it. It's super fun and unlimited combinations of an insane amount of features. The players are insane. Honestly, $20 a month for reason plus is the way to go for me. The update is awesome. I could see people paying $200 for it could kind of suck. But for us Reason Plus users, its like Christmas :)
One of the main reasons for the Hate was the transition from 11 to 12. 11 had lite for $99 Standard for $300 and Suite for $500 then for 12 they made standard $500 and made a subscription service for $20 a month and change there logo and company name. All this basically loat them tens of thousands of there long time Reason supportors it was like they was saying Fxxx You long term supporters We Want young newbies. Im a Reason user I love it but I payed the equivalent of 3X the price to get the equivalent of 11 Suite for 12, and that is wrong.
500 for Reason is unreasonable
Why? Its a huge multii instrument on ots own let alone everything eles it comes with. You Pay the same or more for Arturia V Collection or Native instruments Kontact, which Reasons rack is a dirrect competitor to.
@@HOLLASOUNDS I want to use the Chord Sequencer only. I’m not gonna pay 500 for all of the other things I won’t use
@@h.hristov I think they should make plugin packages or bundle that are cheaper and have the stuff people want.
RIP to my project file, I was on reason beta, now 3 months of work is locked behind a £200 pay wall that adds nothing
You knew that would be the case going into it though, right? Betas generally have an expiry date when they stop working, and the features have been finalised, so it's a gamble to use them for a project unless you're sure you'll upgrade. At least with Reason you can use the subscription if you really need to open it.
@@DjangoFlaherty they didn’t clearly state the end date leaving me with no opportunity to export to audio or anything
that kinda sucks I feel your pain, I still remember when one of my songs that I really liked corrupted my heart was broken af
how being a sourpuss at all times makes you look like a genius
13th reason
I like the new workflow improvements in Reason 13 🤷🏾
Is there a company that has let down its customers and users more than Reason studios ? It's been more than 10 years of disappointing upgrades.
Due to its lack of essential MIDI re-routing capabilities in 13. Reason goes on my shit list. Canceling subscriptions as of today.
Reason still doesn't have a legit sampler. Insane
Mimic is a good sampler , ofc u cant compare 2 serato sample but....
Reason Studios ruined Reason since R8
Aw almost first lol
Remember trying to use Reason around 7 or 8 but all the devices have way too many features, and the ‘hardware’ approach is clunky af on a computer. I think they’d need something like their own Push controller.
Reason Rack needs to include all of the extensions for a single price... Or it needs to be FREE and the extensions should cost less individually.
The kontakt model doesn't work at scale. Scoring artists use sample libraries and rarely utilize sound design at a level that rack extensions provide. Scoring artists are the target market with the current pricing structure. This in turn doesnt work.
The weird thing is that if i am able to recognize this what is going on over at Reason. They have never been great at marketing rack extensions as i think there is someone over there that thinks if they acknowledge that other DAWs exist too much that it might somehow hurt them.
weaver look like he smells like hot dog water..
Do you really really can't think of any use case for a gamepad as a music controller? 🤔 You either lying or your music concept is very limited
where the cat nip at lol
You should be one of the last persons talking about bad sound quality.
Lol just a few years away from becoming Rick Beato.
Really just need gray hair at this point.