Inside Brexit: How Britain lost Europe | FT Features
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Lol yes no science ever in the UK prior to joining the common market. Get real.
Science will now thrive in the UK without anti-science leftists from the EU smothering it.
Wrong question. Can the EU survive without the UK?
@@rawprawn8198 If the past is a guide the answer to your question is a big fat, NO!
@Jayke S You'll bite what moron? Study HISTORY.
5 years later we're still waiting to see how Brexit will benefit the UK
Wait 5 decades and you will most likely not find much.
@@luvabhi3 well, with five decades of economic pain and political decline, Brexit might actually manage to rid England of its exceptionalism, this would be a great Brexit dividend.
It massively winds up people like you, that's a big intangible benefit 😂👍🏻
So if life is harder for you, that's worth it because it upsets certain people?
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"It's the shock of finding yourself back in control again".
6 years on I still beg to differ. "By taking back control we have exposed to the world that we're out of control." (Jonathan Pie)
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"The shock of being back in control again." LOL. More like the shock of being completely out of control of anything.
We didn't get kicked out, we left. Stop twisting facts to push your own agendas.
You got kicked out when the member states of the EU collectively refused to grant you any special conditions despite Cameron's pleas that he would lose the referendum unless granted these special conditions. You may also have noticed that since the Brexit vote you have been repeatedly told to hurry up and pack your bags but you keep delaying your leaving. Clearly the UK is not as important to the EU as it believed itself to be.
+Helenaville Your brain cell doesn't seem to be working...
+Helenaville. The UK is the EUs largest single market. We buy far more from them than they do from us. For example, around 20% of German cars come here, so any juvenile trade war would have an impact on them too, not just financially, but also in jobs. And we don't want "special conditions", just fairness. Other countries have free or low tariff deals with the EU, so why not us? Spite and revenge is why. Pathetic.
How is that kicked out?
Exactly if the EU want to put tax on our goods then we will do the same to their goods and like you state they sell more to us so we will lift more tax than they will. WE will also charge the Irish Republic for goods passing though our country to the rest of the EU if the EU enforce a hard border.
5:20 exactly, well summarised!
7:30 the joke is that what most people complain about in the UK is immigration from non EU countries which are culturally more different... Being out of Schengen, the UK already has the power to control that non EU migration, yet, it does nothing. It's an internal issue, leaving the EU will not change the UKs current attitude towards migration coming from common wealth countries, for example.
There are SIX MILLION EU CITIZENS in the UK who have applied for settled status. That’s just the ones who applied not the ones who haven’t or who have come and gone over the years. If you think this has not had a significant impact on its own you are mistaken. It’s not just the sex traffickers and pickpocket gangs and the ‘new EU citizens’ from outside the EU who gained the right to live in the UK because EU passports were being given out like sweets, it’s the pressure on housing, schools, hospitals and everything else. Non EU immigration is a problem, yes, but that doesn’t mean mass immigration from Eastern Europe was ok either. The balance was grotesquely out of whack. At least 6 million EU citizens in the UK and only half of that of uk citizens across the whole EU the vast majority of whom in high paying jobs or retirees not low skilled people claiming benefits and sending money out of our country back home including child benefit for kids who don’t even live in the UK! A travesty frankly.
Oh and you are wrong about being able to control it. The EU rules are that you can *ask’ people to leave voluntarily if they don’t have jobs etc but they don’t have to comply. If you take legal action to deport them you have to prove they are a clear and present danger to national security and the lawyers always win because clear and present danger basically means ‘terrorist’ so even scummy rapists, muggers, burglars, murderers etc we had to let them stay.
You’re right.
more like ‘How Europe lost Britain’
My thoughts, exactly
Its just a game mate, Uk just changed his Boss the EU to the US, and remenber that the US controls the EU. Uk need more direct control.English psicology works better in a private system (US) instead of a semipublic system (EU)
@@AlexiAtlante ROFL the stupid is strong with this one.
@ you really should seek medical attention for your uncontrollable whole-body fits......
@@chrisgermo1956 Your fear is noted, run along serf.
Europe lost Britain i think.
@Imper 5 sure we'll see, but there will be no fishing for the French, Dutch and Spanish in our waters.
@Imper 5 you sound as desperate as the EU negotiators lol
@Imper 5 and start speaking your own language too.
@Imper 5 ha ha keep positive
@Fred Jansen fish is imported because the fishing fleet has declined due to overfishing sticks in our waters by the French Irish, Dutch, and Spanish. Very easy to sort out thanks for coming.
Would love them to interview these same people and ask their thoughts now. Would be very interesting if they felt the same way.
They'd just wriggle and prevaricate, insisting that lead can turned into gold.
@@MauriatOttolink Twat Twat Twat, it's funny how your first, middle and last names are Twat! Only a Twat would say "prevaricate" and "insisting that lead can turned into gold"!
A famous quote by a great man: "Get Brexit Done!" pmsl ;-)
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That patient analogy at the end has not aged well.
They have done so. Over half said they would have voted remain if they knew what they do now about how bad it is and only getting worse.
David Cameron simply thought he could re-apply his Scottish Independent referendum project-fear tactics as a strategy for Brexit. Well, he failed.
A shame he turned out to be right in the end.
You are right in that he was probably arrogant enough to think it was a "lay down misere", but I think the real reasons were to avoid a split in the Tory party and to stop UKIP, which was getting close the a FPTP critical mass.
LOL. Try how the EU lost Britain. Season II how the EU lost France and Italy....
It's quite funny how Cameron and his weak attempt at a better deal, was ignored by the EU and both paid the price of their hubris.
They did it to themselves. Hilarious.
@@grazzer88 how can you be right about something that hasn't happened yet voting remain is like turkeys voting for christmas. The pound sterling soared when Boris won the election
ROFL- the people have spoken, yet again, in the December 2019 election.
Indeed, with another hooky election... 🙄🙄
@James Oh hahahaha
@James Oh And look at that - 2 weeks later:
- The German economy has stagnated.
- The EU economy is in decline.
- The GBP is strengthening.
- The UK has re-established Malaysia back into the Commonwealth.
- The IMF have projected a better economic growth rate for Britain than the EU.
- Dutch, Danish & Irish MEP's are scrambling to build relationships to improve their influence within the EU parliment (now that Britain is no longer around to demand that the French & the Germans listen to them).
- The French yellow vests are still rioting (even though the BBC aren't publicising it - I wonder why that is?).
And your still sat their acting like Brexiters are the mindless, brainwashed sheep 😂
Bless your little cotton socks!
@@margaretgordon7481 which part of it was 'hooky' exactly?
Or are you just saying that because you lost?
@@ineedmoreflavour1955 yes, of course. I can't stand losing. I'm just whiney like a baby. I just love to subvert democracy. If I can't get my own way then I want as many reruns until I get a result I want and then say that's enough to make sure I get what I want. I just want democracy to go my way as all whiney lefty remoaners want. There, I save you 3 aneurysm filled minutes writing the usual drone on that usually gets written against anyone who doesn't agree with your position. I hope you thank me 😎
Britian only wanted the Trade part of the EU not the whole one united country thing.
I'm not sure we want the trade part that enables the EU to control our economy. In 1975 I foolishly thought it was just about scrapping tariffs.
@@999cosmos Remove that bit to.
Thats pretty much the definition of the term "Cherry picking". A sinonym of "Egoism"..
@@pendragooon Yeah but working together for trade is a bit different from being forced to form into a United states wanna be.
@Gwyddion Flint Workers Unions are good for nothing but legal aid, they only reduce production with constant bickering and stupid ideas.
I was speaking to someone who was at an event in the European Court of Justice. When the topic of Brexit came up there was no sense of anger or that the UK is getting what they deserve. The only emotion was sadness. A deep sadness for what has happened. :(
It is deeply sad. Watching the EU move on to other things and forgetting the uk is very sad
Never underestimare the stupidity of people in large mobs who have Russian money.
@@patrickporter1864 All 16 million of them
Accurate
Lol.. you wanna cwy 😢you left us like a bunch of traitors..
It was obvious to me, and all my informed friends, that it would be crazy.
We didn't realize how bad it could be, and will continue to get worse.
And that's without even the completely insoluble North Ireland border... 😞
The Border in N Ireland is becoming easier to solve by the day.
The Unionists now realise they fcuked up the Kyber.
The day of REUNIFICATION is coming faster than most realise.
Even they realised which side their bread was buttered on.
Give a royal pardon to Guy Fawkes,all is forgiven.
Yes, and eat more fish!
The more they threatened, the less I listened.
And 2,5 years later it's still dragging on..
NIO WE ARE OUT ...
And when you think that in the first days after that unfortunate referendum rumors where spreading like wildfire about Frexit or Italexit... If there is a good thing about Brexit that will be a warning "don't make the same mistake" :)
3 years
Gabriel Stan mistake? Brexit isn't a mistake you clown.
Roll on the next election. The time to get our own back on the Tory party and deliver a proper Brexit.
This video should be titled "How Europe lost Britain"
Exactly what I was going to say.
@Leslie Guy Who, what?
Britain needs the EU more than the EU needs Britain lol
@@leoissomething6603 Would you explain why?
@@simeonkostov3962 well 50% of british exports go to the EU, 50% of imports are from the EU, so without the EU there will be food and medicine shortages and prizes will rise. The Eu only exports 8% to the UK and imports 8%. The UK had a special deal so it already had to pay less, in total with the money it got back, it cost the Uk 130 million a week not 300 million like the Brexit campaigners pretended.
130 million might sound like a lot, but without the EU subsidies the UK will have mager budget cuts in the farming industry, they are already subsidising them less. The Uk also needs trade deals, Boris clearly won't get a trade deal with Europe, since he wines about the fact the EU won't approve his deal when he hasn't even presented one yet. Now he is talking about an Australia style deal. Australia doesn't even have a deal with the EU. He wants a trade deal with the US, but the US has officially announced that it will first make a trade deal with the EU and that could take years. Most countries want trade deals with the EU and the British economy alone isn't big enough for other countries to see it as more important as the EU economy.
Boris is whining he cant get a Canada stile deal, that is dumb thaugh seeing the proximity of the UK to the EU, it would be dumb to make a Canada style deal for the UK, so yeah that's why the UK needs the EU more.
Watching this back it's so fascinating. We had everything possible and some pig-headed idiots have pushed us into a nightmare based on a fantasy. Now we have "the greatest act of economic self harm" on the books, £100bn a year.
I suspect long term it will be worse than 100bn.
@@RazorMouth that’s the ifs annual projection, so yes I suspect not only will that accumulate annually but the annual rate of lose will increase as we pay more interest on our additional risk.
Replying in Aug 23.
Last year Ireland was borrowing money at NEGITEVE interest rates on the 10 year bond markets UK was paying about 2%.
Today it borrows 1.7% cheaper that the British Government.
What says that about Brexshit?
Ireland always paid more to borrow money than the UK.
Not anymore.
"...the shock of being back in control again." I wonder if Daniel Hannan felt much control when the financial markets dropped the pound and got the UK govenment's borrowing costs soar past that of Greece, following the disastrous Truss administration.
One think I can say is that people have seen the true colours of our politician's and they will not vote for either of them.
I think they are all yellow gutless wonders who want power with no responsibilty.
@@dimsung8724 agree totally
Where is the Brexit hero? Firage ? Why is he not leading this Brexit?
Coward
I think you are right. To add the LGBT seems to have taken over the Tories. They are not a true party. They are not a party that honours democracy neither do they allow people to have their own consciences but have instead set up a pack mentality of political correctness.
Foreigners are human with human rights.
We didn't loose Europe , we fought tooth and nail to get out.
Lose
Fought about as hard to get in? Need I remind you the number of times you were vetoed to stay out?
You never wanted to be part of the EU to cooperate in unison with other European countries. You expected to rule them all and profit from it.
And you were shocked when you realized that you discovered that power was distributed equally among countries, rather than exclusively to the once Great Britain. And shocked when you discovered that the EU was to the benefit of all, and not just the UK.
But if you truly are the great champions of democracy and freedom as you claim, then let Scotland and Northern Ireland vote.
@@Thor.Jorgensen The UK are going, watch the beloved EU try and find the extra funds.... watch the EU cut back on funded resource ... the UK will laugh at the pathetic EU
@@fwof3347 Sure, whatever. The EU doesn't have to fund the UK's NHS or farmers anymore either, or everything else listed at myeu.uk
But will you let Scotland and Northern Ireland vote? You're not hypocrites after all, right?
exactly
I find it deliciously ironic that a member of the "Remain" campaign was called "Letwin"
That would be due to your really low IQ.
😂 🤣
To admit stupid things you‘ve done, is the hardest thing.
Nicely edited documentary. Well done!
Seems to me that Europe lost the UK.
Alright. Tell me then. What did I as a European in the European Union lose? As I see it, I still have the same benefits I always had.
Britain, on the other hand, will no longer gain the benefits of the EU, such as freedom of movement, cybersecurity on your personal data, equal price on internet roaming across the EU, banned spam mail, product quality guarantees across Europe, guaranteed 14-day return refund rights, 25-month product repair guarantee, EU-funded healthcare and medicine subsidies.
So really, with the UK leaving, what do I lose? I can still go there, and unlike in the UK, I won't get "immoral content blocks" or "porn blocks" on our internet.
Thor Jørgensen Because the UK is a rich country and to put it simply, you always want rich countries with powerful economies in a trade conglomerate.
@@mattg8600 And? It's not like EU countries can't trade with non-EU countries. Still doesn't seem like Europeans lose much in comparison, does it?
For example my country exports a huge amount of pork to the UK. We've already found alternatives. China is having a massive pork crisis, with over 40% of pigs lost. You know, there's a lot of money to be made there, rather than selling bacon for English breakfast.
Not to mention our windmill technology and the fact that we own the biggest international shipping company in the world. Not doing so bad.
Does it not still seem like the UK citizens are the ones missing out here? Europeans hardly lost anything.
Thor Jørgensen Seems to me that you could not care less about your country’s sovereignty and is totally okay with the fact that the real power in Europe relies on the hands of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels just as long as you can get all the “benefits” that come with being an EU member.
You may take it as a joke but I believe the EU is doomed to fail, Brexit was just the beginning. The rise of conservatism, nationalism and populism will ultimately dismantle the EU conglomerate. I’m not saying it will be a positive thing or anything but it’s hard not to think of this outcome considering the facts, also this will be an evident result of a failed attempt to transform a whole continent into one country.
Brexit means Brexit.
Yeah...but what does that mean *exactly* , Voldy?
Just listen to James Obrien's radio show this morning - shoots Brexit to pieces. They should do a follow-up on Brexit from this program.
They should and it would be pretty grim, I would imagine.
London is now well on the way to losing its status as Europe's no. 1 financial capital. It no longer has the largest stock exchange in Europe - that's now in Paris.
Those who said London would maintain its status as the financial capital of Europe despite Brexit were either naive or just people who refuse to see the reality of what Brexit has done....not just to London, but to the UK in general.
By 2030 London will most likely no longer be the financial capital of Europe. It'll be either Paris or Amsterdam. Not Frankfurt.
People will soon see the ridiculousness of having a financial capital of Europe in a country that's not in the EU. In fact many are starting to see this already.
Wrong wrong wrong.
@@mogznwaz ...no, you're the one who's wrong.
If we can't work with other European countries in a mature and collaborative way, then I'm sorry to say this, but our businesses will lose out - heavily.
This will then have a knock on effect on the whole UK economy....which in turn will see the large investment banks move jobs out of London and to cities such as Paris and Amsterdam. This WILL happen unless the UK government start getting on with the rest of Europe more, and stop fighting it.
The main markets for most UK businesses are in EU countries, or wider Europe in general. This is a fact!! The main markets for them are NOT Australia or America or India - but EU countries....aswell as others such as Switzerland and Norway.
Until our government realises all of this, and that they need to buck up their ideas and work WITH other European countries, and not AGAINST them - the better.
It's only going to rebound on us otherwise. We no longer have the power to 'shape the world' to our benefit - yet most Brexit voters are of the opinion that we do. We don't.
Speaking of Brexit, it's looking more and more like one of the stupidest decisions and costliest of mistakes in British history. It's been an absolute colossal own goal.
@@robtyman4281 I think you are ignorant of what’s actually going on. But do continue to be a puppet of the elites and a slavish believer of Remainer propaganda. Please look up what the EU is attempting to do re ‘equivalence’ - it’s refusing equivalence to the UK that has been in place with the USA without issue for YEARS. Blatant anti competitive move. It’s also trying to pass laws to FORCE companies to use EU centres rather than London because they won’t go voluntarily. The exodus never happened. They are being warned this move will backfire and the only beneficiary will be the USA. If the UK is so insignificant and unimportant why resort to such measures at all? Oh and are you also aware that in international trade it’s common for companies to set up satellite offices across jurisdictions. UK companies will set up satellites in the EU AND EU COMPANIES ARE DOING THE SAME IN THE UK. Because funnily enough the UK is still a major global economy and a large customer.
Oh and another thing. The hysterical headlines about negative forecasts are great remain fodder but the UK has consistently outperformed all forecasts. The UK grew again but Germany is now officially in recession. Where are the hysterical headlines about THAT?
@@robtyman4281 The eu is an unDemocratic farce. No eu citizen has any control over the elites that run it. Democracy is when the People control those in power over them. Having the vote, a voice to make change. None of that within the eu, no vote or voice over those eu elites. Mep's do not hold the power!
Brexit means the break up of the act of union and the implosion of the Tory party. Apart from the "pick your own farm's" I don't know of any other benefits .
young people these days have been trained to give up freedom.
Education sector teach the pro side of EU
What freedom did we ever give up?
@Ray Well considering how shockingly appalling brexit is going currently, I'd say the oldies weren't capable of any logical foresight and therefore brain dead
@Ray So how would you change the way brexit is moving now if you could?
@Ray So does it not bother you having no agreement in place with our biggest and most important trading partner by far? How about having no free trade deals in place across the world at all if we crash out? Even if we do strike free trade deals with other countries in years to come, they would be hilariously unbeneficial to the economy's growth. Trade predominantly works with geography. Naturally we are going to trade far more with country's in close proximity. By crashing out we severly isolate ourself.
There is plenty to gain for being inside the EU. I honesty have no idea where brexiteers are getting these theories suggesting it's a massive cost to be a member. We benefit massively from it, and it will be very clear how much we rely on the bloc once we leave the customs Union. Its going to be catastrophic economic suicide.
Not to mention we can say bye to Scotland and Northern Ireland too. I really don't see how there can be a single benefit to leaving the customs Union without a deal. Please enlighten me
5 years on and the pound still hasn't recovered from the damage done by the vote
"How Britain lost Europe"? We never had Europe :-D What kind of utter nonsense is this?
The biggest mistake was May calling a election ,her majority was barrel buggered at the stroke of a pen
Let's all stay in a reformed EU... Oh yes, the EU will never reform, in a way that we feel it should.
It's always reforming, since the start the EU has gained more and more power, so in fact it has and will reform
@@Azknowledgethirsty My point is that the EU won't reform in a way that the majority of people in the UK want it to!
Alan Jackson maybe uk is reforming in a way the EU does not want. Leave ffs
@@remcovanek2 You're right. That's why we left
How Europe lost britain more like.
Quite. But even more accurately, "How the EU lost the UK and European people."
Well said!
@@sixmagpies You junkies and your Daily Express delusions.
@ Arguments initiated with ad hominem are always so gloriously self-illustrative, don't you think.
Procyon - More delusions of grandeur. I recall Britain in crisis before we joined. Just look at wikipedia on EU trade agreements at how many there are on in progress or in negotiation. The UK could never catch up or get as good terms and government outclassed by them at every turn
Listening to the pompous declarations of those City cretins on how good it felt to “take back control” 6 years in hindsight, is appalling. How does it feel now with this control, hope you are enjoying it.
This should be titled "How Britain lost Britain"
David Cameron, what a smug knob he really is
calm down, I`m not his fan either but I`m not sure I`m your fan Mr. My opinion only matters. Everyone has one.
@@wdanowel4331 First of all, what ever gave you the opinion that I care you're not a fan of me, very odd indeed. Secondly, I don't remember leaving any comment anywhere which gives a clear indication of my ego being so big that I actually believe my opinion matters more than others. I think that maybe it is you with a problem because clearly you make assumptions.
@@jasonpaul6488 I believe what you say, in that case " the second of all" should be "first of all". /Referring to David Cameron what a smug knob he was/
@@wdanowel4331 😂🤣
@@wdanowel4331 thank you for correcting me, haha. Has anyone ever told you that you are funny
I do not consider Britain losing europe, but instead how europe lost Britain.
Agreed.
Music simiilar to House of Cards; this version is called Box of Post-its.
I love the fact that no leave voter ever talks about job losses as companies are already talking about moving their businesses to mainland Europe. These include Deutsche Bank, Barclays Bank. Some games companies need talent from abraod cos we just don't have enough programmers. Goldman Sachs, Lloyd’s of London, Microsoft, Easy jet and some major car producers. Europe wants us to pay for the sattelite system if we want to use it.
@@snowyowel7961 lol
That thumbnail of Cameron's losing face is just perfect, lmao.
You call this a victory?
Before Brexit I regularly ordered from English webshops, since Brexit I stopped because of high shipping and custom costs,
Daniel Hannan nails it at 3:25. The fact that David Cameron failed to realise this proved just how far out of touch he was with the electorate.
The only thing Hannon every nailed was the people of the UK to a cross.
Hannan, yeah the guy who moaned about unelected bureaucrats all his life and who got a life peerage to become an unelected Lord. Ohh, the irony
@@lucius1976 I would keep that one quiet if I were you. He is probably hoping that people hadn't noticed
Thank FT first time I have watched your videos excellent analysis.
Thank you, that's much appreciated.
Millennials have never known anything but the EU. This must have been the shock of their lives.
Indeed, and now our lives will never be the same, or our kid's.
I was born in the 1990's. It wasn't a shock for me. I've wanted Britain out of the EU ever since I became interested in politics in the early/mid 00's. Anyone with common sense and a good knowledge of history and politics, know a nation is more prosperous when it governs its own affairs. And historically, all political unions in Europe have eventually failed. This one will do the same. It appears in my experience, those who do not follow political affairs, voted remain. Those who do follow politics, voted leave. Says a great deal.
@@dean1039
So I guess we'll be back to warring then?
@@VideoGameAnimationStudy No my friend. As I stated, a little common sense is needed here. The times have changed. This is no longer the volatile Europe of the 1930's and 40's with nations led by the likes of Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, and Francisco Franco. There is no logical reason for two European powers to enter into military conflict with one another in the 21st Century. If NATO and the Warsaw Pact avoided war during the 45 years of the cold war, I don't believe Angela Merkel will send her tanks through the Ardenne forrest, or France prepare an invasion fleet for Great Britain at Boulogne any time soon..
@@dean1039
Fair enough. I'm sure it'll all be fine. People just want politicians to do their job competently, I guess
Cameron in 2016: "No, my people is not that stupid. Oh, wait..."
true brittons always wanted freedom to trade with who we like
And that is what uk dont have now...
From a world superpower into a lost nation.
The Title should be ....…. How Europe lost Britain!
Why?
@@hildetoepoel812 Because they need us way more than we need them! Why do you think they're making it so hard for us to leave properly?
AndromedaChords, so we invited the UK into the EU? I thought they begged to join EU.
@@OneBiteoftheCherry They need us more than we need them how come they hold all the ACES there get real for goodness sake.
@@hildetoepoel812 In 1963 and in 1967 when the UK was near to economic collapse had a loan off the I M F got it to 1973 when the UK joined the then EEC some people live under past illusions there as we know.
French farewell: leave without saying goodbye
English farewell: say goodbye and don't leave
Haha, golden.
EU farewell: Quick, lock all the doors before they escape!
But we ARE leaving, haven't you heard? The English people have spoken yet again in a General Election, giving a big victory to pro-leave candidates.
@@Danc1978 i'll believe it when i see it.
I heard those promisses before and yet you are still here.
@@Danc1978 British people mate. There are THREE other countries here. The UK isn't just England and its capital Londonistan.
I was dismayed at how democracy was dismissed as ‘populism’ by the BBC etc. We should not be afraid of democratic process as people are actually for the most part pretty sensible. In fact studies have shown that personality disorders such as narcissism are more rife in the political classes and senior business leaders. Narcissists are attracted to power and people lacking normal compassion will latch onto ideologies. Therefore, it is imperative that normal people are listened to and would be political dictators controlled. This is why I support Brexit and I still like Our European neighbours and wish them well.
Brexit reminds me of the ending of the "Waldorf Salad" episode of Fawlty Towers:
Basil pisses off all the guests, kisses his wife goodbye, storms out only to find out it's raining and outside is an unpleasant place to be...
Its amazing to think how many of the people who pushed for it, won't have to live with it lol .
I can't help thinking of the french taunting in Python's movie "Holy Grail" 😂😂😂
*How Europe Lost Britain*
Should be the correct title.
The way Roxas returned to fight Xemnas and Isa was fire!
How Europe lost Britain surely??
The result was totally predictable from the people's point of view
worst intergenerational betrayal in history... you had a bunch of people who won’t even be alive in 10/15/20 years voting on the future for my generation of people in our teens and 20’s who will have to live with their terrible decision for the next 50/60/70 years. I strongly believe there should have been an age cap on who could have voted in that referendum... if you aren’t gonna be around to see the full future effects of whichever decision was made you shouldn’t get a say... sorry, not sorry. I hope to god if labour gets into power over the next few years they find crafty ways to begin to reverse this decision and gradually realign us with Europe. I don’t believe it was a legitimate decision to begin with, not when you have over 70% of the people who will have to live with the full effects of this voting to remain and a large majority of the ones who likely won’t live to see much of the aftermath voting to leave.
dont be bitter be better ,,,you lost get over it ..
Made 3 years ago.....and as with the whole referendum and the 1 deal breaking issue....it never once mentions the Irish border
Mark Madigan / John Sinclair: exactly.
Forgetting tge Irish and Scottish is English tradition at this point.
Every time there's a call for voting, I always have the same feeling. My vote has the same value as that of people who understand the related consequences much better than me - and vice-versa of course.
Do people know what's better for them? Maybe Brexit is the right things for Britains, I don't honestly know, but I doubt people have a full understanding of all the consequences, that's why I feel bad in reading so many strong opinions on the subject.
Let's hope for the best, in any divorce, are always the children the one who pays
People, whomever they be, never have a *full understanding of all the consequences* of anything. Does that mean we ought to abolish democracy? Of course not. Advisers (politicians) advise, and ministers (the public) decide.
@@misterteaification Constructive comment, you're right.
It's how democracy works, probably not perfect but most people who live in democracies (including me of course) believe that it's the best form of governor. It's just that democracy is more "fragile" than dictatorship. With a (relatively) few money anyone can democratically influences elections making our gloried democracy _à la merce_ of whomever have will and money. Which bring the question if this happened in UK Brexit or in US Trump Elections.
Three years later, however, my remaining feelings is that Brexit has been a failure on both sides. Europe lost a valuable member, UK lost a valuable membership.
For what ? Cod fishing quotas ? Better China trade agreements ? Looking at what the world is today, every possible Brexit arguments looks a little silly. Sure, contexts were different three years ago.
@@misterteaification great point. I guess the freedom to choose means also there is a freedom to make uninformed decisions or even mistakes on occasion. As long as the decision represents the will of the people, we need to accept it whether we like it or not and whether it makes sense rationally or not.
In that sense the biggest fear I have going forward is the problem of intentional misinformation. When certain interests groups spread lies, in the age of social media with bots, and confirmation bias this may lead to votes being cast that so not serve the intentions of the voters.
And the second harm is especially in the US but also to some degree in UK and other countries, that the party structure, the voting laws etc may lead to a situation where people are forced to choose the lesser evil and the vote of people in some parts of the country are worth more than the vote of people in other parts
well you now have your answer
My viewpoint is that in general the British Public knew very little about how the EU works. We all probably are far more knowledgeable now.
The leave campaign was particularly misleading, full of disinformation and false promises, that NHS bus is a perfect example. I remember the very next day Nigel Farage admitted that the 50 millon a day for the NHS was a lie!
Actually, listen to Sir Ivan Rodgers, in his interview with Andrew Neil. (Spectator TV) There definitely was a need to have an in-out referendum.
"I just didn't think it would be sustainable for him to stay on, It was the right thing to do, he didn't believe in Brexit"
Christ, ending up with a PM who'd campaigned for Remain; and didn't believe in Brexit, handling our withdrawal from the EU, what a disaster that would've been...
...Oh wait!
Emm yeah........
What were they thinking? Cameron was honourable in resigning.
Sorry I’m not British and I might be a bit dumb honestly 😂, but who are you talking about? Cameron didn’t handle the withdrawal from the EU, he resigned, Boris Johnson is for Brexit, were you talking about Theresa May?
Yea I was referring to May
It was brilliant the look on his face when he lost
david simmons I could watch it over and over 🤣 he nearly cried 😆😆
When? In this video?
david simmons very sad because we are going to struggle outside
it was the knowledge and fear of what was to come ... and you like that???????????????????????????
Congratulations you played yourself. 😆
I was always confident LEAVE would win, but after the main tv debate where Sturgeon, Rudd and Eagle were such a car crash, then I knew leave would win.
Wish I had put money on it
well..........when Indyref2 cometh we shall see!
Britain has left a tired, old EU. Good on you!
Quiet down you subhuman dunce.
@ .....OHHHHH, you SOOOO angry.......you are following your meds schedule, aren't you????
@ only a pikey would say that.
So we have Nigel farage and Boris to thank for this disaster.
You guys have been brainwashed. UK will be much better off. Losing your sovereignty to unelected bureaucrats who don’t give 2 shits about you is not a disaster.
I think ,Europe lost Britain!!
Not the other way around!!
i never mist east european
Comments below make an interesting reading. Most of them express emotions and positive or negative expectations for the Brits. The fact is none of you can predict the final net value of this decision on a single-person basis, let alone on a society level. I would only say that interventions in workings systems more often than not bring negative consequences. When a system is, say 80% efficient, it is much easier to decrease that numer than increase it..Also, taking decisions through voting by non-competent persons is a bad idea. I hope , your surgeon will not consult patients in the waiting room regarding his next move and follow the majority.
Glad we are leaving as most of Britain is
Still here ey?
What do you regard as most of Britain?
@@janethomas7584 Well, obviously the majority of people of Britain who voted to leave. I thought that would be obvious.
@James Oh says the one who doesn't know the difference between, you're and your... You're Just sad!
@@janethomas7584 I think the majority of 80, the biggest since 1987 and the biggest loss for Labour since 1935 speaks for itself...
In hindsight the breaking point poster was pure genius! Well done Nigel
Stupid propaganda!
Brexit is a fantastic opportunity for us.
But then, I'm Irish and its well known that Britain's difficulty is our opportunity...
You think? Your economy is almost attached to ours by an umbilical cord.
@@mersey9956 I am Irish and you Sir (@Mersey) speak the absolute truth. I am astonished at all these pseudo economists stating that UK isn't our major trading partner (correct) and you'd nearly think that the UK then didn't matter..
@Sean - I totally respect your opinion and I believe that short term UK will struggle outside EU but there are long terms structural EU problems and if you don't simply want to be a province of Brussels/France/Germany then you and I (Ireland) had better start waking up to the problems of the EU....more EU is not the solution. The EU and all people who love that institution need to concentrate on ensuring that we can trade freely amongst each other instead of determining to usurp freedom and the democratic process. The EU has delivered ZERO in terms of BREXIT for Ireland at this point. The EU is so anti-democratic that one can only weep. BREXIT, the subsequent UK election and Article 50 have been a completely democratic process - the pursuit of BREXIT and it's implementation is a disaster and anti-democratic and there is no doubting that.
@Both - while I would love to see NI back as part of the Republic you need to take a look at Mary McAleese article ;
"“Dr McAleese paid tribute to former Taoiseach Enda Kenny’s securing of an agreement among European leaders post-Brexit that dictates should partition end Northern Ireland will be able to be seamlessly re-enveloped into the European Union.
That was a “gift” and a resource to be built on she told a DCU Brexit event.
“Now what you are offering people is not - as some people fear - absorption into the Republic where people will be preening themselves because now past injustices have been righted - but rather what you will be offering people is the prospect of this wonderful new democracy within the European Union fresh and different and reconciling of all identities - something really qualitatively different,” she said.” To be planning to hand the North over to the EU is arrogance beyond belief. Are we giving the “gift” of Northern Ireland to the EU though it is not ours to give or is the EU gifting us Northern Ireland when the can’t even keep the U.K. on board?. So far there is absolutely NOTHING delivered by the EU in the current Brexit chaos.
@@james09995 I so wish the Irish would leave with us and work far more closely and united with us than they ever have. The E.U is evil. I fail to see what Ireland has to offer once they're cut free and I only see the worst pillaging and desolation Ireland has ever known once the UK has totally left the E.U, by the E.U. it's bad enough as it is, that Argentinian beef has lowered the beef value for instance. My farming family is struggling over there and is closing down the farms they have.
smiler I think Ireland leaving EU is unjustified as the EU and EEC has benefitted Ireland remarkably. However whatever benefit we received is now zero’ed out based on the enormous debt imposed by EU/IMF following economic collapse so that the benefit of the EU must be judged by post 2008 crash. We’re now a new contributor to EU and the great worry I have is that our closest natural ally, the U.K., will no longer be there to help fight for issues that jointly benefit us. The EU missed the opportunity for reform because it is irreformable. They are hell bent on federation and they are madly undemocratic. I live in France and have experience of the EU in Belgium and Holland where I worked and I am a proud Irishman. I really fear for what is going to happen to Ireland post Brexit - the EU have delivered no Brexit solution for Ireland or England and yet people, especially in Ireland, are so besotted with this institution. Bottom line, the EU is anti-democratic, anti-business and irrevocably socialist determined to impose social costs “we cannot afford with a declining % of world trade”...those are Angels Merkeks words. Meantime Ireland has convinced itself that it can do without its neighbour and open up new markets to compensate...as someone who marketed a product my company built I can assure you that is no easy task and we gained not a single contract outside U.K.
In short there are many deluded on Brexit side re: NI border and equally many on Remain side who are arrogantly and wilfully deluded of the reality of the EU. I support BREXIT because it is seriously time to curb the EU...Hungary is the model. Nation states working in close cooperation and agreeing tight integration but without federation and whose national population are and remain sovereign. The whole disaster of Brexit is that the desire for sovereignty, so clearly expressed by the Brutish population, determined to reclaim it fro Brussels is frustrated at EU level and at parliamentary level in a manner so anti-democratic it’d make you weep.
Sean O'Connor Really! That historical cliché is no longer applicable in a world so integrated!
Britain joined the EU because their economy was in rapid decline. By all means let them take it back to decline.
We didn't get any good deal (never) that's why we left plus we have left the Mafia
Yeah the illiterate filth have spoken. Amazing only one language and you can't even spell.
@ obviously an uneducated out of work remoaner . looooooser
@@user-hp5fz3qs1u I'm actually educated far beyond anything your serf peabrain could conceive of. You once again demonstrate the acuity which led you to treason. Trot on.
@ please please don't have any children we don't want more of your delinquent's roaming the streets .Mr O numbhead
YAY!! WE ARE LEAVING! Let's hope the rest of Europe follows suit so that each country can regain control of their country, their laws, culture and pride.
The UK won the war, Europe didnt, so the average continental europeans concept of pride is different to the average UK person's.
@James Oh " For no reason! "
Brexit didnt happen for no reason. Just the same way as Scotland independence referendum of 2014 didnt happen for no reason.
Seems to me that youre very quick to throw the "twelve year old" insult around, but display immature thinking yourself. Its a classic hypocritical insult.
@Fred Jansen Nope - MEP's are not our politicians, and MEP's do not implement laws - unelected commissioners do. Now, MP's are our politicians - and we WILL control those. Watch and learn. ;-)
Britain was never EU, so, nothing to lose...
Dare yes it was fucker
How the EU lost Britain 🇬🇧 yeah
Exactly.
Precisely
"How Britain lost Europe" is such a ridiculous and biased title. Obviously chosen by a pro-EU person for drama purposes.
Britain is part of the European continent and European culture and will always have strong ties with the rest of Europe.
And, unlike what the media attempt to portray, 99% of Europeans hold no animosity to the British because of Brexit, at all. So silly!
It's now 29 October 2022, six years after the vote to leave. I wonder what all who participated in this documentary think now.
It’s unfortunate the citizens of other European countries weren’t given the opportunity to vote on Thatcher’s demands for greater and greater privileges for UK back in the 80s. She should have been shown the door; EU rejection of Cameron’s further demands was too little, too late.
I think UK should have been told from the beginning, in no unclear terms, that the European project is a union of equals and that, if UK wanted the benefits of membership, it had to comply in full with the associated responsibilities.
De Gaulle vetoed UK accession twice, as he predicted the long term outcome. History proved him right.
Would be wonderful to interview all these guys once more, now that we're weeks before brexit really happens.
Or now even, when post Brexit woes are starting to show.
m.ua-cam.com/video/wO2lWmgEK1Y/v-deo.html
Britain leaving the European Union is the best thing that could have ever happened
to the EU
@@plum_bit Who told you that ? We're angry because nothing happens. Door is open for quite long now, and we'd all apreciate to close it, and the best for everyone
How much has it already cost to both sides ? For what pityful result ? Your move
@@plum_bit This might be a matter of perspective. On the other side we see a country that want to leave bad things (basically politics) while keeping the good ones (basically trade)... and well, we disagree indeed.
Maybe UK should remember UE never asked anything neither for it to come in, nor for it to leave... plus it has been a PRIVILEGED member through the years.
UK is not a child we should give an alimony to, but maybe is it a capricious one.
UE is no more punishing than helping... we've done the mourning and now just waiting for you to solve the issues you created yourself (by joining in the first place maybe, but no one forced you to do so, and some even tried to prevent it in the past)
As long as you keep paying. It's ok.
Has not happened lol.
Wrong title. Should be How Europe lost Britain.
But in essence Political class have themself removed from population.
You are absolutely correct Rodion. The ultimate test would be the next election. We need to get out before they get their army as then we might not have a choice.
@@Rayblondie very true. The EU is failing anyway. More and more countries will leave. Well done UK from America.
@Frankly Frank You don't have an argument any longer only insults.
@Frankly Frank But you just give insults instead of reasons? Very persuasive.
No one wanted the European Union only the common Market for trade only?
Common market requires common regulations.
Nigel Farage is happy to be EU bureaucrat with 150k euros salary.
Good luck, Britain.
Thank you, Jerry.
And to you.
They will never ever ever give up their e.u pension end of
How can we trust in the likes of these after all we've seen !
You can't have a discussion about Brexit without including the occupants of 55 Tufton Street... Should've asked Matthew Elliott while the FT was interviewing him.
How the EU lost UK is more adequate. I voted in a referendum to join a trading block of 8, not the EU farce, by stealth.
The last referendum was a return to Democracy but to date that has failed.
Load of rubbish mate.
The EU was never a mere trading block but a political project using trade as a means to achieve its political goals. Read the preamble to the Treaty of Rome if you have any doubt.
Nobody in the EU is currently advocating for UK to return, and why should we? We don’t need, and many of us don’t want, a reluctant member state stalling our decision process.
I hope you are enjoying your Brexit!
@@paologat Wrong. We Jouned the European Ecconomic Union when we confirmed by referendum .The Eurooean Union is entirely different and an attempt to create a United States in Europe by stealth and support the Demograhic disaster in the USA .
@@christophercook723 back in the 1970s, UK was unfortunately allowed to join, and to benefit from the trade aspect of the European political projects, despite a comparatively large number of people, such as yourself, being only interested in financial gain while opposing the political goal. In hindsight, De Gaulle was right in vetoing UK accession twice for this very reason.
If you read the founding document of what eventually became the EU, the political aspect is clear from the very preamble - no stealth at all. UK chose to disregard it out of expediency.
EU has to thank Farage and the Brexiteers for freeing it from an overprivileged and recalcitrant member state that could not be expelled against its will.
When and if UK changes idea and a large majority decides to accept the EU political project, you are welcome to apply to join again, this time with no opt outs or rebates. Until then, enjoy your Brexit.
Farage Nigel is also = Trump
The latest polls in the US after a month long government shutdown has Trump at a 52 percent approval, May and Macron are at less than 25 percent... Who lectured who? LOL...
So?
We don’t need political ties just trade like how it all started.
The Prime Minister who was so sure he'd get his desired result that he gambled a countries future whilst promising whole heartedly to stay on as PM whatever the result.... Of course he lost, and yep you guessed it he bolted and left others to clear up his mess, that's his legacy!!
As of the 21st of June 2019. "What a Mess". I think some of these politicians are not fit to be let out in the street. May's gone, and we may get Boris. Well who ever ends up with the job has got their work cut out for them.
How Europe lost Britain
"Strides out into the garden". That did not age well, now did it...
Certainly one of my lifetimes grimmest moments 😩
Britain voted to leave the EU! Get it right for goodness sake!
Get it right? Walking away should be the easiest thing in the world. Only the halfwit British Brexiteers seem to find it difficult.
i VlogBuzz Yeah, just go away.
Henk Oosterink
"Go away"? Rather moronic. I was stating something factual so why you just have to make such a comment is beyond me! It makes you look a little cretinous as you imply you don't want to get Brexit smoothly? It's a fact - its going to happen - like it or not - so try supporting the democratic choice!
IVlog I sure like it, and i really hope you leave as soon as possible.
Rune Jensen
You should pay more attention to get your medication more regularly.
The Title of this video should be:
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"How Europe Lost Britain"
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The EU and the UK had a mutually beneficial relationship. The both lost each other. If you're writing the story from the british perspective, this video's current title is more accurate than your version.
Brimenting
Europe lost? Europe cooperate for PEACE and Prosperity....UK drift to unknown...
Brimenting my thoughts exactly Europe lost the uk by leaving the eu we will gain not lose anything
Artur Hoffman absolutely rubbish what prosperity the southern states of Europe have been beggered by the eu with slow growth and mass unemployment!
Spaz Coyle,
The national problems of the EU Mediterranean states have always been deeply engraved in their structures and political incompetence, and their economic situation would be much worse if they were not in the EU.
Moreover, this only proves that the southern states are fully sovereign and responsible. What is the reason why not enough jobs are created in these countries?
But it is always so convenient to always blame others to distract from your own corrupt incompetence.
how about organising a mass lighting of all the armada beacons on the coasts and islands facing Europe so the Euros can see the UK Brexit victory!
oh Rose dont go lighting beacons .it will only attract gangsters in small rubber boats.