@UncertainFear One of the hardest things in life to deal with is when you have a close emotional bond with a woman and fall in love with her, but you can't be with her. It's great joy and great sadness all rolled into one. If that's what happened here, then I feel for Tuomas.
Still can’t get it the fact that Tarja friendzoned tuomas. I mean he really loved her, even Marcelo said Tuomas words ‘nobody was never able to stop me loving Tarja’ this means something, the good man that loves you many years, you doesn’t care about his feelings and run to other man. Sad
I believe Tuomas was probably in love with Tarja, but it was unfortunate that Tarja was already married, so it broke his heart. Having Tarja near was probably too painful for him, and so this may have been one small factor in why he so easily agreed with the rest of the band to kick her out.
Oh my god you guys!!!! Do you see what I'm seein'???? It just dawned on me. Yes! Tuomas was in love with Tarja! There's no mistaking it! Do you see how he looks at her! Thar's beyond frienship, that's love! Damn, his love was not reciprocated..... I knew it, boy loves girl, girl loves marcello! There you have it. The vicious circle had to be broken!
It almost feels like we are looking at something secret, that wasn't supposed to be seen. Thank you for this. Tuomas in the santa hat hehe, his face. Some really good shots there. Looks like they are being... maybe, honest? Like "this is how we look in daily life" not throwing up a facade.
IF they would be together, it would be the most awesum couple in the history of metal :P I mean, the combination of music is already enough: Symphonic, kinda Gothic Heavy Metal + More Metal, Classical and Opera! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT! plus the fact that Tuomas seems a real awesome person to me :P he inspires me everytime i see him (even though i don't play keyboard, but guitar, drums and a lil' bass) :P
=[, I would have guessed maybe Tuomas and Tarja had a relationship when they first started Nightwish together, then it probably just never worked out. And when she found a new love..he felt destroyed...=[ aww so sad.
WoW.. this is unlike any other video ive seen on youtube. Tuomas and Tarja in better times. Now they have parted ways so bitterly, like a divorced couple.
tuomas never said he hated tajra, he didn't like the way she changed towards the end. when asked about her feelings toward the band tajra said she had forgiven them for what had happend but she will never forget.
Well, her not being a team player is the band's side of the story. Tarja seemed bewildered when she heard their accusations. Also, she doesn't seem to have any bad things to say in reply. That makes me question the one side of the story. That, and the fact that the band fired her in a most unprofessional and asshole way. Am I defending her? More like I'm aware that I wasn't there and it's hard to take it all on face value.
It's been long-rumored Tuomas was in love with Tarja. Of course, I don't know her, but just looking at her pictures and hearing her sing mesmerizes me, I don't think it's humanly possible to not fall in love while being so close to her.
They ARE the two pieces of the puzzle called Nightwish.She,s been bewitched like Kai and Marcelo is the Snow Queen.I know it sounds chiildish, but still I hope that one day she',ll wake up and... who knows...
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy they split up. They were so perfect together, the perfect combination. Nightwish always gonna be my fave band but it's not gonna be the same without Tarja, she is just perfect and powerful singer, just what Tuomas needs in his songs, just what the band needs to complement their music.
The way that Tuomas look at Tarja in all of those photos is not like "brother and Sister" relationship, is more like he was in love with her o something, like a deep feeling... It's so sad... i wanna saw him smiling in that way again =( It can be posible?
Like Tarja said, "one day all will be forgiven." These are beautiful memories and life goes on, but i hope one day Nightwish reunites again.Man they are an amazing band with Tarja. people make mistakes, but remember no one is perfect. Let them be immature, one day they'll notice it was fucked up to write a letter and kick her out. But spare this situation the agony and pain,let time heal everything.
oh my god this was fucking great! they go perfect together! this vid made it hard for me to drink my water... so full of feeling... too bad they can't be together, I'm sure they were meant for each other... 5 fuckin stars
man they got some of the most striking eyes on earth. they should be in vampire movies or something. i hope no one starts making lovydovy fan fiction about thoughs two, that would be stupid and helarious.
There's an older interview on UA-cam with Tarja and Tuomas back when Century Child had just released. Towards the end of it, Tarja talked about how she wanted to pursue her own dreams. She didn't study and sing classical opera for years to sing in a metal band. Despite her work with the band, it seems to me that Nightwish was getting in the way of what Tarja really wanted to do with her life. IMO, the band (not just Tuomas) firing her was merely hastening the inevitable. She will be missed.
it makes me so sad the see these 2 not together anymore after all those years together making an awsome music ,if it wasn't for the problems between them and her husband ,none of them get seperated ,they were the best couple .
I love them together... This video is amazing, it almost make me cry. Tuomas and Tarja looked so happy in these pictures... I still love them both. Because of their music, they are two important people of my life... I love you with all myself, Tuomas and Tarja!
I wanna know what kind of arguments Nightwish have now, is about Annette? I'm from Argentina, and I love Tarja whit all the strength of my hearth. Long Life to Tarja.
I think that it never will be all okay again. But they all were so close at the beginning of nightwish, i hope they can be the friends again they used to be.. Without arogance and attitude.. I feal such a lamo but i cried to x] x.
@summerchild17 I dont really care either just saying lol... I think the band started to suck when Sami Vanska got kicked out and Marco came not that he is not a good singer/bass player but the music changed and they lost all the emotion they had. Watch the from wishes to eternity concert then the end of an era one which is just flat and cold compared to 3 years earlier. Yes i wish i was in finland right now because i hate getting a sunburn on christmas, Texas how i hate your hot weather.
I thnk their relationship was far more complicated than anyone's going to admit to being. I imagine it's been a mutually painful separation. I just know that if I was close to her, unless she was a total shrew 24/7, I'd fall for her.
Yeah maybe that was the true reason why NW has broke apart. But I belive they will soon be friends again it's just a matter of time. It's not easy to forget all sorrows and scars but this video shows they were trully friends or even more. Things like that are too expensive to forget about them
I guess Tarja had just became victim of male games. Both Tuomas and Marcelo were not perfect. But they tried to control her in different ways. Marcelo reached her by kindness, care and comfort. That's why he succeeded.
No person who really loves another person will publicly humilate that person. Real love does not do that. No matter what, real love is pure & sincere no matter what. if marcelo is not the guy for tarja, then their marriage wont last. Toumas will know that and would not forever have burnt his bridges by doing what he had done. I think he is a coward. No real MAN would do be so pathetic! He is a great musician. i hope annette stays in their good books or her public humiliation is on the way.
holly crap,i miss them together...there was something special between them,some magic,love,friendship,passion,thrill..i don't know how to say that in one word.i mean,look at their lyrics-1she is my sin-come cover me-feel for you-ghost love score....and with anette there's bye,bye beautiful,and it looks like tarja answered with i walk alone,enough,until my last breath,we are and other..maybe i'm wrong,but it's obviously
I mean I love this band, always will, but does anyone find it weird that he has to take awkward pictures with each of the singers they've had? I have my own theories on that one...
all because her aditude changed thats the only reason why she got kicked off tuamas was trying to be nice about it but it was still a hurtfull letter he sent her
we all have no real idea about what happened within the band, so dont say u dont respect her, u dont know what happened there.... anyways, Tarja: keep up the good work!
"Never been friends"... Yeah, right... I think they should both take a look at this. I don't approve of the music though. It's not fitting. Things like these propably makes them feel´sick inside.
Professional artists are somehow emotional disturbed, and can not communicate like normal people do! This is why this would never have become a "perfect" couple. People like this can only communicate in music, not with their heart and mouth.
You think that Tuomas didnt feel for her before, and he fell in love just after she got married? But she married Marcelo after 2 years of dating him. He could have fight for her..
Me and a friend of mine were discussing the potential that these two might have hooked up once a long time ago.... Perhaps they did, and she thought it was a mistake and decided that they needed to just remain friends. Maybe he couldn't get over that, just maybe she broke his heart? Who knows lol, it's fun to speculate though.
:p Marcelo say that Tuomas love her and told something like "everything become bad" when M said to him that he don't have anymore chance to be together with her :p .I don't believe it at all.But who know the truth O_o?
That would explain everything, when Tuomas was in love with Tarja he was not abel to wright music for her after her marriage, and he was not thinking clear about her anymore. It yust might be what has happend.
actually there are proofs... when marcelo answered to fans in tarjs's website, someone asked if tuomas felt something about tarja, marcelo said that he confronted tuomas and he just said and i quote "As usual he didn't speak much, but he said to me that nobody was going to be able to stop his love for Tarja." so its all true...
Tarja has been more like a mother to Tuomas; its like she was or at least she looked so serious and mature unlike Tuomas who was always the cute,intelligent, funny and childish one! Tuomas needs not a Tarja, but someone like him!
No he said the opposite. This is full text of Marcelo's answer: "To cut a long story short, in October 2004 I needed to ask Tuomas to come to talk to Tarja and me in our hotel room in the middle of the tour. Even though he knows Tarja many years before me, he never could achieve his goal. In this meeting I clearly told him that his chances to be with Tarja were gone. I needed to tell him that there was no reason to keep on trying any longer, since I married her. As usual he didn't speak much, but he said to me that nobody was going to be able to stop his love for Tarja".
no puedo creer que... ese tipo saque a tarja del grupo !!! eran lo mejor =( bueno ella sigue siendo lo mejor, ella era el alma del grupo!!! te amo tarja.... (me gusta esa canción de evanescene
im don't know for sure but when Marcelo wrote his own open letter thingy he said that tuomas was in love with her and that He had to sit down with tuomas and tell him that his chance to be with Tarja had passed and Tarja is his wife now. like i said idk if its true but i did read that in marcelos letter.
Of course, he would never admit, even if it was true... Toumas is the one who will never open up before one's eyes. Maybe man and woman can be friends. But one thing doesnt prevent another, and it doesnt mean that one of them cant fall in love with his friend, especially if they spend so much time together.
At some point Tuomas was in love with Tarja...
@UncertainFear One of the hardest things in life to deal with is when you have a close emotional bond with a woman and fall in love with her, but you can't be with her. It's great joy and great sadness all rolled into one. If that's what happened here, then I feel for Tuomas.
Still can’t get it the fact that Tarja friendzoned tuomas. I mean he really loved her, even Marcelo said Tuomas words ‘nobody was never able to stop me loving Tarja’ this means something, the good man that loves you many years, you doesn’t care about his feelings and run to other man. Sad
Gosh it almost made me cry x] I have the feeling Tuomas 'kicked' someone out of his life he loved most of everything.
I believe Tuomas was probably in love with Tarja, but it was unfortunate that Tarja was already married, so it broke his heart. Having Tarja near was probably too painful for him, and so this may have been one small factor in why he so easily agreed with the rest of the band to kick her out.
1:20 Friendzoned meme, good quality stuff
really good video...i miss nightwish when they were togheter tarja!!!!
and i miss tarja!!! her voice was fantastic and unic!!!
this make me cry!! .. this couple!! was the BEST!!
Oh my god you guys!!!! Do you see what I'm seein'???? It just dawned on me. Yes! Tuomas was in love with Tarja! There's no mistaking it! Do you see how he looks at her! Thar's beyond frienship, that's love! Damn, his love was not reciprocated.....
I knew it, boy loves girl, girl loves marcello! There you have it. The vicious circle had to be broken!
Que hermoso love forever Tarja y Toumas
It almost feels like we are looking at something secret, that wasn't supposed to be seen. Thank you for this. Tuomas in the santa hat hehe, his face.
Some really good shots there. Looks like they are being... maybe, honest? Like "this is how we look in daily life" not throwing up a facade.
IF they would be together, it would be the most awesum couple in the history of metal :P
I mean, the combination of music is already enough: Symphonic, kinda Gothic Heavy Metal + More Metal, Classical and Opera!
WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT!
plus the fact that Tuomas seems a real awesome person to me :P
he inspires me everytime i see him (even though i don't play keyboard, but guitar, drums and a lil' bass) :P
nightwish needs tarja
and....tarja needs tuomas and nightwish
=[, I would have guessed maybe Tuomas and Tarja had a relationship when they first started Nightwish together, then it probably just never worked out. And when she found a new love..he felt destroyed...=[ aww so sad.
yeah she was kicked out but she was gonna leave the band anyway , just that Tuomas needed to say "i kicked her , she didn't leave me"
WoW.. this is unlike any other video ive seen on youtube. Tuomas and Tarja in better times. Now they have parted ways so bitterly, like a divorced couple.
tuomas never said he hated tajra, he didn't like the way she changed towards the end. when asked about her feelings toward the band tajra said she had forgiven them for what had happend but she will never forget.
Well, her not being a team player is the band's side of the story. Tarja seemed bewildered when she heard their accusations. Also, she doesn't seem to have any bad things to say in reply. That makes me question the one side of the story. That, and the fact that the band fired her in a most unprofessional and asshole way. Am I defending her? More like I'm aware that I wasn't there and it's hard to take it all on face value.
It's been long-rumored Tuomas was in love with Tarja. Of course, I don't know her, but just looking at her pictures and hearing her sing mesmerizes me, I don't think it's humanly possible to not fall in love while being so close to her.
I love the old Nightwish too... Nothing compares with Tarja singing with Marco!! Long live Tarja and Marco!!!
They ARE the two pieces of the puzzle called Nightwish.She,s been bewitched like Kai and Marcelo is the Snow Queen.I know it sounds chiildish, but still I hope that one day she',ll wake up and... who knows...
Tarjaaaaa!!!
she was the only singer for the band...she was made for them!!!
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy they split up. They were so perfect together, the perfect combination. Nightwish always gonna be my fave band but it's not gonna be the same without Tarja, she is just perfect and powerful singer, just what
Tuomas needs in his songs, just what the band needs to complement their music.
Very sad... Yes, it can't become, but my biggest wish is to Tarja return to Nightwish. They're my life.
The way that Tuomas look at Tarja in all of those photos is not like "brother and Sister" relationship, is more like he was in love with her o something, like a deep feeling...
It's so sad... i wanna saw him smiling in that way again =(
It can be posible?
Like Tarja said, "one day all will be forgiven." These are beautiful memories and life goes on, but i hope one day Nightwish reunites again.Man they are an amazing band with Tarja. people make mistakes, but remember no one is perfect. Let them be immature, one day they'll notice it was fucked up to write a letter and kick her out. But spare this situation the agony and pain,let time heal everything.
BEAUTIFUL VIDEO!!! Sooooo sad!!! I wish the best for each one in their musical career. WE MISS THEM TOGETHER. THEY ARE GREAT.
If you watch them (pics) with the attention of the years they made .. the smile and good feeling betwenn seems to fading away
just sooo pretty, couldn't imagine a prettier goodbye to the best singer from the planet... thanks!!!
oh my god this was fucking great! they go perfect together! this vid made it hard for me to drink my water... so full of feeling... too bad they can't be together, I'm sure they were meant for each other... 5 fuckin stars
Actually why they kicked her out?
how someone can do such a mistake!
Tarja is a treasure!!how you can throw away something so valuable?
beatiful video!!!
i miss the old era..:(
man they got some of the most striking eyes on earth. they should be in vampire movies or something. i hope no one starts making lovydovy fan fiction about thoughs two, that would be stupid and helarious.
simple a small video showing moments of together Tuomas and Tarja,
forever in heart , only...
What a beautiful couple...only in my dreams...and maybe Tuomas dreams too!
The both of them can deny it until the day they die.. I don't care. There is SO clearly some sort of connection that they shared.
There's an older interview on UA-cam with Tarja and Tuomas back when Century Child had just released. Towards the end of it, Tarja talked about how she wanted to pursue her own dreams. She didn't study and sing classical opera for years to sing in a metal band. Despite her work with the band, it seems to me that Nightwish was getting in the way of what Tarja really wanted to do with her life. IMO, the band (not just Tuomas) firing her was merely hastening the inevitable. She will be missed.
And know there is no Nightwish, also no Tarja & Tuomas.
Damn :(
I love them so.
Really touching. I think that if eitherone of them would see this they'd have tears falling on their cheeks.
it makes me so sad the see these 2 not together anymore after all those years together making an awsome music ,if it wasn't for the problems between them and her husband ,none of them get seperated ,they were the best couple .
I'm crying now, :(
Good work, it was a great vidio!
I wish Tarja could come back in the band,
I love them together... This video is amazing, it almost make me cry.
Tuomas and Tarja looked so happy in these pictures... I still love them both. Because of their music, they are two important people of my life... I love you with all myself, Tuomas and Tarja!
I wanna know what kind of arguments Nightwish have now, is about Annette?
I'm from Argentina, and I love Tarja whit all the strength of my hearth. Long Life to Tarja.
I think that it never will be all okay again. But they all were so close at the beginning of nightwish, i hope they can be the friends again they used to be.. Without arogance and attitude..
I feal such a lamo but i cried to x]
x.
I love u Tuomas
@summerchild17 I dont really care either just saying lol... I think the band started to suck when Sami Vanska got kicked out and Marco came not that he is not a good singer/bass player but the music changed and they lost all the emotion they had. Watch the from wishes to eternity concert then the end of an era one which is just flat and cold compared to 3 years earlier. Yes i wish i was in finland right now because i hate getting a sunburn on christmas, Texas how i hate your hot weather.
It's a shame that they can't get back together again even do an odd gig together.
I could say, one of the most epic music couples....
I thnk their relationship was far more complicated than anyone's going to admit to being. I imagine it's been a mutually painful separation.
I just know that if I was close to her, unless she was a total shrew 24/7, I'd fall for her.
Im gonna freakin cry over here! can't believe she's not in the band anymore.
Tarja's new solo thing is awesome! But her in nightwish with Tuomas was so awesome! I wish they could have kept goin :(
Yeah maybe that was the true reason why NW has broke apart. But I belive they will soon be friends again it's just a matter of time. It's not easy to forget all sorrows and scars but this video shows they were trully friends or even more. Things like that are too expensive to forget about them
I dont like Marcello. I am sorry but i think he is conman and creep. I think part of this fiasko was Marcellos fault. He is creedy man .
I guess Tarja had just became victim of male games. Both Tuomas and Marcelo were not perfect. But they tried to control her in different ways. Marcelo reached her by kindness, care and comfort. That's why he succeeded.
wow, they look as though they were pretty close. It must've been hard for him to let her go from nightwish.
No person who really loves another person will publicly humilate that person. Real love does not do that. No matter what, real love is pure & sincere no matter what. if marcelo is not the guy for tarja, then their marriage wont last. Toumas will know that and would not forever have burnt his bridges by doing what he had done. I think he is a coward. No real MAN would do be so pathetic!
He is a great musician. i hope annette stays in their good books or her public humiliation is on the way.
How right you were! Speaking from 2020
holly crap,i miss them together...there was something special between them,some magic,love,friendship,passion,thrill..i don't know how to say that in one word.i mean,look at their lyrics-1she is my sin-come cover me-feel for you-ghost love score....and with anette there's bye,bye beautiful,and it looks like tarja answered with i walk alone,enough,until my last breath,we are and other..maybe i'm wrong,but it's obviously
Even after all this time...
ALWAYSSSS
I mean I love this band, always will, but does anyone find it weird that he has to take awkward pictures with each of the singers they've had? I have my own theories on that one...
HAHAHA i also think
I don't know but I feel something different in his view when he was close to Tarja
I think Toumas probably a has hidden sociopathic tendencies.
all because her aditude changed thats the only reason why she got kicked off tuamas was trying to be nice about it but it was still a hurtfull letter he sent her
we all have no real idea about what happened within the band, so dont say u dont respect her, u dont know what happened there....
anyways, Tarja: keep up the good work!
LOL @ 0:36 xD
I can imagine them saying:
Tuomas "I am now your master mind"
Tarja "The PHAAAAAAANTOM of the opera is here!!!"
"Never been friends"... Yeah, right... I think they should both take a look at this. I don't approve of the music though. It's not fitting.
Things like these propably makes them feel´sick inside.
Professional artists are somehow emotional disturbed, and can not communicate like normal people do! This is why this would never have become a "perfect" couple. People like this can only communicate in music, not with their heart and mouth.
They were a great fuckin' team
You think that Tuomas didnt feel for her before, and he fell in love just after she got married? But she married Marcelo after 2 years of dating him. He could have fight for her..
That's what I think and the Marcelos opportunity appeared in Mexico with that terrible incident, that was Tuomas moment not Marcelo.
Me and a friend of mine were discussing the potential that these two might have hooked up once a long time ago.... Perhaps they did, and she thought it was a mistake and decided that they needed to just remain friends. Maybe he couldn't get over that, just maybe she broke his heart? Who knows lol, it's fun to speculate though.
:p Marcelo say that Tuomas love her and told something like "everything become bad" when M said to him that he don't have anymore chance to be together with her :p .I don't believe it at all.But who know the truth O_o?
they are always in our hearts
old pics, old life, tuomas is fat now, ohh boy...life pass down very quickly uhh?
Are you CRAZY?? You made a Tuomas & Tarja tribute with THAt song??? Sorry, one star...
He must have been in love with her!!
OMG i really miss the rel NIGHTWISH!!!!!
That would explain everything, when Tuomas was in love with Tarja he was not abel to wright music for her after her marriage, and he was not thinking clear about her anymore. It yust might be what has happend.
actually there are proofs... when marcelo answered to fans in tarjs's website, someone asked if tuomas felt something about tarja, marcelo said that he confronted tuomas and he just said and i quote "As usual he didn't speak much, but he said to me that nobody was going to be able to stop his love for Tarja." so its all true...
if tarja is happy, i am too happy
but really, i think they could be a nice pair
OMG tarja is beautiful : 0:41
Tarja has been more like a mother to Tuomas; its like she was or at least she looked so serious and mature unlike Tuomas who was always the cute,intelligent, funny and childish one! Tuomas needs not a Tarja, but someone like him!
She's been married to someone else for a long time, even before they asked her to leave the band.
"Broken" by Seether w/ Amy Lee-Hartzler. Shaun -Seether's lead singer- and Amy were dating for a while, hence the duet.
que es lindo todos los momentos que pasron juntos que hermoso
they are cute together !!! ^^
ainda tenho esperança q a Tarja volte para o NW
nice video :-) although why did you choose a seether song for the sound track instead of a nightwish one
so hard to belive that there was so much sadness and hate behind those two smiling faces...
Tuomas loved her.. I mind. They were friends.. and now? =( It's so sad..
beautiful photos and music.
its so sad T_______T
i want the OLD nightwish back!!!
i wish tarja was still with nightwish ;( i dont know what to say right now :(((
I cried ;(...i miss tarja in nightwish...... ;(
They were such a good team. I love this song
love it... made me cry for hours
You've got Tuomas's words wrong. He said to Marcelo, "Nothing can stop your love for Tarja"
No he said the opposite. This is full text of Marcelo's answer:
"To cut a long story short, in October 2004 I needed to ask Tuomas to come to talk to Tarja and me in our hotel room in the middle of the tour.
Even though he knows Tarja many years before me, he never could achieve his goal.
In this meeting I clearly told him that his chances to be with Tarja were gone.
I needed to tell him that there was no reason to keep on trying any longer, since I married her.
As usual he didn't speak much, but he said to me that nobody was going to be able to stop his love for Tarja".
most beautiful guys in the world
tuomas looks so much happier with tarja.
no puedo creer que... ese tipo saque a tarja del grupo !!! eran lo mejor =( bueno ella sigue siendo lo mejor, ella era el alma del grupo!!! te amo tarja....
(me gusta esa canción de evanescene
im don't know for sure but when Marcelo wrote his own open letter thingy he said that tuomas was in love with her and that He had to sit down with tuomas and tell him that his chance to be with Tarja had passed and Tarja is his wife now. like i said idk if its true but i did read that in marcelos letter.
They look sooo good together!!!!!
these are so wonderful pictures ! very well done!
the song is also great - love Amy Lee
Of course, he would never admit, even if it was true... Toumas is the one who will never open up before one's eyes.
Maybe man and woman can be friends. But one thing doesnt prevent another, and it doesnt mean that one of them cant fall in love with his friend, especially if they spend so much time together.
When they met the Nightwish I thought they were lovers ...^^
Who would like everything would end ...
I LOVE THEM TOO!!