Yep that's basically what it has become, but as someone who recently started serving unfortunately its just engrained into the ways ppl get paid, kitchen staff gets tipped based on net sales, so if someone leaves no tip or tips under a certain %, I quite literally lose income for that table/customer. So many people do tip tho that even when that happens servers are usually still fine, however imo expecting ppl to ignore this culture and find jobs only that have higher base pay is sometimes unrealistic. Thankfully I live in a state where its illegal to count tips towards minimum wage, but that's not everywhere. My biggest problem is with states that let you get paid $2 an hour by counting tips. If ppl really want to be against Tipping culture, they should boycott the businesses that expect it, not the tip itself which would screw over the ppl whose livelihood depends on it. For this to change, the pockets of the people who use tips as an excuse to lower wages are the ones that need to hurt rather than the employees themselves
@@brendon96068 so working people go out to eat and you expect them to pay extra for you, and you think that is good. You have to help pay BOH and that is bad. You are selfish and have entitlement issues. Boycott the business and the owner magically realizes that people are upset with tipping? That doesn’t happen. It is much more effective to refuse to tip and let the worker who AGREED to work complain to their owner. As for the “razor thin profit margin” tough sh*t! ANY business that can not pay its workers minimum wage deserves to fail. Many skilled workers make less money and work more hours than ENTITLED servers. Learn a skill. You write and order and carry a plate. Only needy customers crave the fake sincerity of the server rattling their beggar’s cup for more money. After reading the comments of entitled servers I now REFUSE to tip. Servers DO NOT DESERVE more than $17 an hour. There are already touch screens and robots that replace waitresses. BRAVO!
The problem lies in that they lie about service fees and then still ask for a tip, because ultimately the 'Service fee" doesnt go to the waiter or staff anyway.
@JustSomeIdiot exactly but some1 called me entitled in the comments for basically saying this exact same thing, they bake tips into the way you get paid to the point where they aren't tips anymore, the employment expense has just been pawned off to the customers
There was a huge scandal in Romania over restaurants starting to add tipping fees in their bills. We managed to get over it overnight because people refused to pay the bills on the premise that "I didn't buy that, so I ain't paying for it". Next day they made this illegal.
@@zolikoff seems perfect to me, no way for the employer to syphon anything off and the tax loss should be negligible in the grand scheme of things/be below "small gifts" excemptions anyways if you have that.
@@matt_9112 Oh yeah now that you mention it, I find it amazingly evil that some of the places that have the automatic selectable X% tip on a touchscreen, for card payments, will not actually give that tip to the staff, it just goes to the employer. That should be illegal.
I worked for tips for about 6 years (thru college and a couple years after) but I 100% agree that the requests for tips has gotten out of control. The other night my husband and I ordered a pizza for pickup. When we placed the order online it asked if we wanted to tip and we declined since we were picking up. When my husband went inside the guy working the front again asked if we wanted to tip. Idk what we’d be tipping for. If we got delivery I’d understand but we put our own order in online and drove to pick it up.
Well there's your problem right there. You see nothing abnormal about routine tipping of certain professions, but the reality is that there is no more logic to tipping for delivery than there is for tipping when picking up.
@@takatamiyagawa5688its not a profession making pizzas.. i wouldnt tip either, i tipped the dominos worker, didnt even say thank you and made my pizza shit
@@takatamiyagawa5688 There is a substantial difference between picking up and having it delivered. Employees working inside the store that make pizzas are underpaid, but typically above minimum wage. Delivery drivers make less than minimum wage in states that allow it, then make up the rest in tips. On top of this, delivery drivers typically drive their own vehicles that they are responsible for fueling, insuring, and maintaining. As you may be aware, keeping a vehicle on the road is very expensive these days. On top of this, the delivery driver is literally risking their life every time they leave the store and head out into deadly traffic to bring you your stack of obesity bread. If customers do not tip well, delivery drivers can literally be 'paying to work' in that the cost of fuel and maintenance exceeds their hourly income.
I was actually told not to leave a tip at a local Tex-Mex restaurant by the employees because they said their employer did not give them a share of the electronic tips
I've actually been hit with the 'If you can't afford to tip' shit. As a previous employee in the food service I always respond, "If you can't afford to pay your workers then you can't afford to own a business."
@@domerame5913 how do you know the living wage is in the price of the food near you?? do you know the price of ingredients and all the costs of running and operating a restaurant you would need this information to honestly know this. I'm not tryna grind ya gears I'm just wondering.
look we tip in USA and offer terrible wages so things are cheaper. In the UK you dont tip, call it a service charge, and pay the staff a little higher but things cost an arm and a leg where you can only do it once a month. Its two different worlds and both systems are terrible in my opinion.
As a bartender in the Netherlands, the American tipping system has always baffled me. If I give a whole rundown of beer styles, whiskeys and explain the different flavours and the like, I will be very happy with a €20 tip on a €400 bill, cause it confirms I did a very good job. In the US, I had a service so bad, the food was cold, took 1.5 hours to arrive, the waiters would simply ignore you, were rude and grumpy, so I decided to not tip at all, and the owner actually came up angry saying I had to tip. Like, do the waiters have to punch you in the face or aim a gun at you before you're allowed to not tip? Tipping should imo be something extra you give as a gratitude, not a mandetory thing cause I think it discourages quality of service.
@n00b Also a big reason waiters don't protest is because A LOT of them quite frankly make much more than minimum wage through tips. Like everyone feels bad thinking they aren't being paid minimum wage when they are likely making way more money than the cooks who are. The whole thing is lucrative and thrives on misinformation and social pressure.
@@edwardelric4975 Yep. I make six figures and I met two waitresses who were both making more than me working part time (total hours, not days per week) at a very high end restaurant. They LOVE tipping because extremely wealthy people tip well on expensive tabs. They averaged 500/night and worked Thursday - Sunday. They also under reported their tips so their take home was higher than it should have been. However those type of restaurants are a completely different experience to going to ihop as minimum gratuity is automatically included and you know this ahead of time.
Most places here in the us will spit in your food if they know you have a history of not tipping. All of us lower class people in America are underpaid and starving, cant afford our bills and waiting for us and our family to die of whatever unafordable medical bill takes us out. Not tipping, even once is like telling the workers there in the future "Hey let out all of your pent up frustration of living in a dystopia on my food/drink" With coffee shops here 1-3$ per drink is almost mandatory if you dont want spit in your drink The sad thing is most if these places "divide" tips with owners getting like 80% of your tip so the worker usually only gets .25 for every 5.00
I stopped tipping after I spent time in Japan in 2000. It made me realize the companies were getting all the money from the food/service we buy AND expected us to pay their employees' salaries. I paid for the food and service, YOU pay for your employees to work there. Every other service based business gets it except dine in restaurants.
I live in Japan and am always stressed anytime I visit Europe, America, etc., which all have tipping cultures. I have always thought the same as you, "aren't you getting paid for this?" I have tipped in Japan, but usually in special circumstances. Even when small, it has always been deeply appreciated and not expected
Here in germany tips are a thing, but voluntarily. And 10% is the gold standard for a good tip. I tip at the barber if Im happy with the service and at restaurants if food and service was good. Both around the 10%
@@Imfphas20 No one will expect a tip in Europe. The only places where people usually tip an small amount are restaurants (something like 2 or 3$ in a 100$ restaurant bill) but they won't get mad or get offended if you don't.
There is a quite easy fix for this "problem": don't tip at all. After a certain time, employeers need to fill the gap as they should from the very start. What they do is simply transfer their salary obligations to the customer and make higher and higher profits. In germany we usually tip if there is extraordinary service OR we round. Lets say you'd need to pay 18,50 then you tip 1,50. Beeing to the US multiple times and it really hurts me. Because not only is it extremly expensive over there but also you'll never pay the offered prices since a) they are not able to put the price incl. taxes on the menue b) 15-20% tip is expected. So if you go out and eat for 25$ you have another 5$ on top. That sums up quite fast...
The problem is the impact to all the people on the ground. It's easy to say just don't tip, and it probably would eventually force companies to start paying fair wages, but in the meantime it's the underpaid workers who will be impacted the most. I think first they need to eliminate the tip worker minimum wage.
It's amazing how there is a "minimum wage" and yet, that is not the "minimum". They are in America, speaking their native language and the word "minimum" has different meaning. Amazing!
@@daboss640 1. It's not your problem to pay for these worker's salary and 2. If you don't stop tipping, they companies won't pull it out. Think on the perspective of the company. You getting $500 extra a month on tips that you can use to pay for wages, why would you pull that out? Is there any merit for you as the owner to remove the tipping culture in your restaurant/company? No. You gain money because people are afraid of getting bashed online for not tipping. And to be fair, if tipping is a good thing, every companies in every country should've followed suit by now. AI kiosk was a good idea and now even Jollibee in Philippines have that. Yet, we don't have tipping culture in Philippines. Because the workers here get "MINIMUM WAGE" especially if they're under a company. It's by law. If you're tipping because you think it would help the "people on the ground", then just adopt them or sponsor their house, bills etc. I literally doesn't see any difference between tipping and begging. JUst different words.
The worst is when people got the "If you don't tip me I'm going to treat you like shit" mentality, forgetting that tipping is the reaction to your actions.
I do not tip. In my country tip is a bonus, not a main income. If anyone would ever say anything about not getting a tip I would never again visit that place.
Yep, this pretty much. I had a restruant yell at me beacuse i only tipped 15% and how dare you tip so low...never come back here again! I didnt go back there again but again seeing how 20%+ is expected almost makes it more a service fee then tip.
@An_Equal I realize some servers want to profit off of going the extra mile for your customers, but screw tipping culture. Its garbage and needs to go. Just because these servers wanna profit from being a "decent" employee doesn't justify its existence. No dice bro
In EU tipping is encouraged but that it's seen as a positive feedback for the service provided, in Asia tipping isn't common but if you're a tourist we understand, but some countries find it insulting to tip. NA is weirdman
this is genuine question. are the employers don't want to pay more for their employee or can't afford to pay more for their employee ?. in my country in some restaurant instead of tips, in the bill we put a service charge that gonna be given to the employee so like mandatory tips, and we can still pay a living wage for the employee.
@An Equal don't you get what a tip was once? you did a better job than i expected: "here have a few bucks as gratitude." now it's: "pay me extra i rely on it. or be ridiculed because i can't ask my boss to pay me what i am worth." let them do their worse jobs and get no tip for it. it's fine.
I have a distain for the places/ services that want you to tip up front before receiving a service. It's like, you worry about not giving a "good enough" tip then the service will do worse than the bare minimum. But if you leave a good tip, it still feels like the bare minimum and you can't change your tip to reflect the service you got >.>
Agreed. It's not a tip if it's upfront. It's bribery and extortion. Bribery on your part so you can get good service. Extortion on their part "if you want me to do my job, you'll have to pay me extra first"
Tipping is great when is totally optional without guilt tripping or any other kind of manipulation tactics. It needs to be just an option to give an extra reward to the one who's giving you a service that you honestly appreciate higher than what they are charging.
Said by someone who doesn't understand how operating a restaurant works. Most restaurants pull between 5 to 9 cents to the bottom line for every dollar spend.
@@byteresistorsure they can. Food for thought what happens to restaurants in the US when they increase the cost of everything on the menu overnight to make the change? Also I was a tipped employee for 15 years. I'd take tips over set wage any day. Too many people making that argument don't earn a living off tips. Maybe mind your own business
@@johnrodgers8457 Then why do restaurants in other countries do just fine without it? Trying to pass off your employee costs to customers is a scumbag move. All you did was point out that most restaurant owners don't actually know how to run a profitable business, and so rely on paying shit wages to keep the lights on. There is zero reason why a restaurant can't just charge the profitable price for their goods and services like literally every other industry does.
in australia tipping is super uncommon, people only tip if they feel the service they recieved was above and beyond what would be considered normal. its something that has to be EARNED and not just expected. or its just a jar at the counter to chuck loose change into lol
I denmark you dont tip at all like tipping here does not exits thats why for me when i went to thailand on vacation i was super confused when annother tourist shit on me for not tipping lol
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko Yeah, "rounding up" is very common in the Czech Republic because you just don't have to bother with having your wallet full of small coins, if something costs e.g. 95, you give them a 100 CZK bill and tell them to keep it. But sometimes even this kind of "tip" can be 20 or 25 %, especially for cheap things, e.g. 8 CZK -> a 10 CZK coin OR 15 CZK -> a 20 CZK coin
its only NA that has a tipping culture, thats USA, Canada and Mexico. Nowhere else in the world has it. Or if they do its like busker work. stuff that is given free, or cheap.
I think the most fucked up thing about it is the reversal of the tipping meta. Now you tip so you don't get shitty service, not tipping AFTER you've received exceptional service.
Yup, that's why I stopped eating out or using uber apps, I'd tip but it's never enough apparently so you get treated like shit, I worked for uber a short time and I saw people putting food on door handles so when the customer opened their door it would fall and make a mess, shameful, even when I got an order I was going to lose money on I still treated everyone with the same respect
I remember trying out a breakfast place with my gramps and sister. We were all paying for are own food separately. I just ordered regular eggs and toast, I ended up getting my eggs raw. The eggs whites weren't fully cooked and were goopy, snotty lookin. I kindly, as nicely as I could, asked are waiter if I could get my eggs cooked. I told them I didn't care if they were burnt, as long as there fully cooked, ill be happy. They gave me new eggs and it was the same story, my eggs were liquid. I ended up not eating my food and my family were getting angry at me, calling me picky. THERE RAW EGGS! Do you want to eat slime?!? I just waited for my family to be done with their food then when it came to the bill, all of them put down some kind of tip, but I didn't. If I couldn't even eat at a restaurant, which im just throwing away money, then why should I leave a tip?? I came there for one thing and I didn't even get that thing. And my family are getting even more ticked off at my calling me rude and saying that its the only way are waiter makes a living..... THATS NOT MY FAULT! In the end, I left still hungry and had my family chew my ear out.
Because they didn’t want to learn a real skill or use their own brain to better their lives so they want the person already paying for the service to now also pay them more for the “more than likely shitty service” they gave them. All while constantly complaining about being a server
@@Ragecon87 most skills in a modern economy aren't 'real skills' in fact some of the high end jobs aren't even productive they just serve white collar clientele who happen to pay more. Western economics is such a huge con and has basically been a massive brainwashing campaign for rich people wanting to keep their money since the 1950s. Other countries don't view accountants and business owners as commodities in fact they don't even care who is comes from. Only in the US and even Europe do people have this misguided belief countries trade for the people and not the product.
@@Ragecon87 And yet you expect those people to be there to serve you when you go to a restaurant, or check you out at the store, or to help maintain your house if you're too busy to mow your own lawn or clean your own house. If you want services, expect to be charged so that these people can live their lives while making yours easier.
This is true. I commented this elsewhere as someone who waited tables in “fine dining/upscale” restaurants for a decade. Waiters “tip out” roughly 3% of their sales to be distributed to the “non-tipped” employees. So if I sell $1,000 worth of food/drinks in a shift, I pay $30 out of my hourly. The hourly is so low, if I get tipped 0 dollars that day, I paid $30 to work that day. It’s another example of the way employers are stingy. I made a livable wage thanks to tips. But if my employer paid me a livable wage and customers didn’t tip, I’d be fine with that system too. I can see both sides.
There was a Japanese restaurant I used to go in NYC, the food was so tasty and authentic. The first time I went, after I paid there was no space for me to write the tip amount. I asked the waitress there, who proudly told me that "we have pride in what we make here and we don't require tips . We just happy our customers love our food." It shocked me. As someone who come from another country to live in the States, I totally appreciate it. I don't mind paying a bit more for great food instead of being forced to pay a lot of tips when the service was bad.
And about the prices, people always in these videos complain that the prices would rise, but cmon you are already paying 20-30% more on top of the price, what if every item would go up by 15% and you didn't "need" to tip, you would actually get the food cheaper.
We have a restaurant wher the owner is Japanese and he keeps the tradition of "no tipping is allowed" and everybody likes it so much the place is packed. It's also a nice place.
@@clutchcure6821 this is like saying if you don't like being hot, try being in a fire covered in gasoline it's much worse, but America is a first world country silly, there needs to be a standard, and begging at you job when most people walk around with a 500 dollar+ mobile phone isn't exactly living in a mud hut in the middle of a cow heard, the scalings are different, the standards are different, it's like comparing the flu to ebola and saying "live through that it's worse" such a dumb argument we know some countries are so poor they eat dirt and bark but we are talking about a first world modern technological and medical advancement hub of the world it needs a standard of living and wages
@@clutchcure6821 Maybe we have TV and smartphones but honestly most of us are just subsisting and never able to save just like the people in 3rd world.
@@MsHojat well each person in the position of receiving tips is under different conditions, some jobs will take all the tips and then hand out whatever is left to the employees, some employees will sabotage others for tips even if they are getting a wage, some people are greedy as hell and others are desperate for different reasons, get rid of tips and pay a clear hourly fee would be the general solution but some people and companies make so much extra money from tips you wouldn't see it gone everywhere unless you made it law, I'm not saying get rid of tipping but get rid of forced/coerced tipping when let's face it, in some cases you either tip or you get a burger from off the floor or the duct tape the bumped to your broken car because you get the absolute bare minimum service despite you paying the full asking price
its crazy lol check out uber eats and doordash subreddits those guys are on a whole other level about this. "NO TIP NO TRIP" more like NO TRIP NO INCOME
5:16 no that's not ok at all. That's not a tip, that's a scam. A tip should never be requested or presumed, and it should NEVER be part of the check. *A tip should always be an entirely separate and voluntary transaction between a customer and the specific worker(s) that attended that customer, and have nothing at all to do with the check or the employer.* It's a direct *offering* to the worker, and that's it. Team tips are also a scam, as the workers that weren't involved in serving you are not entitled to a share of your tips. They did nothing to deserve being tipped by you.
As a mechanic I've never heard of any shop asking or having a suggestion during check out for tipping. The tire/oil boys get tips sometimes. But it's 100% customer driven. And it's like 1000 degrees outside in FL so it's pity more than anything.
mechanics can deliberately sabotage someone's car just because he didn't get a tip well? he wanted to end someone's life over $10? is america morally bankrupt?
Right, like I tipped my exhaust guy because I brought it in during a snow storm and they were having slush fall down on them and down their shirt lol. I felt bad.
The moment I started getting asked for tips when I came to PICK UP my food from a call in, with no service required on their part, I knew these businesses just need to be allowed to die out if they can't pay their employees.
So they didn't have to pick up the phone, put in your order, plan it around the other tickets to get it out before all the people who actually came to the restaurant?
The only time I tip in restaurants is to show off in a nice restaurant. I'm sure they're very impressed by that 10 euros. And the bill was like 200 euros, which is A LOT for two people and 10 euros was still a huge tip. Usually its like 1 - 4 euros if that.
I live in the UK so tipping is a strange thing to do. But if I am in a place and someone goes well and beyond what I should expect then I consider it, the strange thing is that most will refuse it.
In the Czech Republic, and perhaps most of Europe, tipping is a tool for service quality recognition. If it sucked, you don't tip. If you were happy, you do. Commonly, you get anywhere between 10-15 per cent, and aside of that people are used to rounding up. Here, you mostly show your appreciation by coming back and giving good review since that's what keeps the business running in the first place, customer-side. I've worked in gastro for almost two years so I do value the work, if it's worth it. Personally, I never tip in fastfoods or beforehand (such as food ordering apps, where I already pay for gas and premium). And if someone basically forced me to tip, and especially something like 30+ percent as seen in those kiosk tablets, I'd be like where tf is my foot massage?
I don't live in Europe but I normally see videos of people playing in streets. I think it's called "Basking", they play music, people donates. Tipping should be like that. If they do a good performance, people will tip. If you do bad, some may do but mostly don't. In the end, the tipping and/or basking is all optional and should not be forced in your face.
Yep. You're already paying for OVERPRICED drinks and food, because you pay for the fact you're in a restaurant... and part of that money should be going to paying the staff.
5 Euro for Cola, WHAT. I can get 2L bottle from the store for 1.05€ and make my own ice in fridge. I could drown myself with 14€ 😂People are nuts for paying this OP prices to begin with, not even talking about the tip.
@@4X10S its called fair prices, a tshirt made by child slave workers wil always be cheaper than a tshirt company that pays fair wages in healthy workenvironments
I am from Europe and when I went my first time to the US, I went to Miami for Ultra Miami. So I was at this beach party and wanted to buy a Beer. So they charged me 33 dollars for that beer. I saw on the bill service charge was included. So I walked away and the waitress rudely asked me: "what about a tip." I turned around and told her what do you need a tip for when all you did was open the can of beer and charge 33 dollars.
@@reaziel9438 Beer that is at an event full of relatively wealthy individuals, and a full capture on the market. When the only beer available is a $33 beer.......
Tipping culture is so weird for many of us outside the US, though some places here may ask you if you want to tip your driver or server etc but it is never expected. I have given a tip but only on rare occasions when I really liked the person whose service I used
I recently got a job at Starbucks and we get a fair bit over minimum wage PLUS benefits... DO NOT TIP AT STARBUCKS. In general don't tip. Plus besides tipping, I'm getting bombarded are virtually every grocery store to donate to charity.
I passed through a US airport. As a Brit, I found the whole experience infuriating and sad. Prices should be final and include gratuity. Also some checks had auto-gratuity and the server asked for more tip on top of it.
Ya'll are just falling for tourist traps. You are 100% not obligated to tip anywhere in the US. Some places have a automatic "gratuity" charge for large parties (like 10+ people) and its just a fancy word for a service charge (they're moving tables around, putting the entire kitchen on your table's meals, etc. -- its not a tip for sure). Otherwise they just put a suggested tip, like 15%, 20%, 30% and hope you make the assumption that everyone does it (we don't).
I refuse to tip for take-out. You didnt serve me, i picked up food the guy in the back made. Tip was always explained to me as a thanks for a job well done.
Nah terrible take. Your server also just gives you food that a guy in the back made, except they get it plated and walk it to you. We get all your food boxed up and make sure we have everything in there (you'd be missing entire dinners if not for the person coordinating takeout where I work) and you guys don't even throw a couple of bucks on hundred dollar orders that we have to put up to an hour into. Tip to be a better human because some people can't even afford their bills after working 12 hour days when they get shitty tippers that they have to pay to wait on via tipouts and such.
@@jacobmeals6930 Difficulty of the work doesn't mean anything. It is not the consumer's fault that carry-out deliveries don't get tipped because for decades it has not been the standard to tip for things where direct service interactions aren't involved. It's also not the consumer's responsibility if a restaurant isn't properly paying their carry-out employees. I'm not saying the system isn't extremely unfair in its' current state to carry-out workers, but you don't get to call the customers sh*tty humans when carry-out tips were never an established practice, and you signed up for a job with that drawback. I actually hope that less people tip carry-out because it will then force a food price increase that translates into actual wage bumps, but it will suck for the people currently in that situation and I get the frustration.
I used to work for a casual fine dining restaurant. We gave 25% of total tips to the chefs. I was going at $3/hr while the chefs were $15-20/hr. On average, I give about 3-400$/week. Tipping culture has definitely gone way to out of hand and this is coming from someone that was a part of the industry. What needs to happen are restaurants to raise their prices so that the they can pay their servers actual wages!
You are right, they need to pay a fair wage. It is not the customers job. I refused to tip when I visited the US. I had to deal with angry owners, and I told them point blank, that its their job to pay workers, not me. And most of them began to ramble. Im sorry but americans need to stop being shamed in to tipping, it is weak
@@KarmasAB123 I didn't realize this comment, but I would've quit if I only made $50/day. I worked about 4 days/week and tipping out average $300-400/week is equivalent to making about $1200-1600/week. Just to clarify: Tipping out is when you give a percentage of your tips earned to the tip pool for bussers, runners, and chefs. Ex. If I make $100 that day and the tip out is 25% of your earnings, I go home with $75.
We don't want a living wage though, we do better than that bare minimum off of tips. Like, we all have circles talking about our stocks and investments and teaching others about options etc.
@@user-zj4rg9kn1c Just include the cost of service in the prices. I would rather choose higher prices and no tips instead of lower food prices and constant begging through the terminal.
@@kitkitos but that will require them raging wages anywhere from 6x to 30x. The price raises will be much worse in places without alcohol because the profit margin is like 30 percent on food, but that's before taxes and most other operating expenses. So, your bill will go up like 20 to 30 percent if not more.
@@user-zj4rg9kn1c >your bill will go up 20-30% Yeah, and the average tip is 20-30% anyway, so just charge me that amount, pay the wait staff decently for a decent job, and save me the embarrassment.
@@user-zj4rg9kn1c And when I say "pay the wait staff decently," I also mean "fire those who perform poorly". Good work should be a responsibility, not a reward for tips.
One of my issues with tipped positions is this; i have MANY friends in the service industry. I used to work in the restaurant industry for almost 20 years. Tipped employees always found a way to complain about how little they made while simultaneously making FAR more than anyone else in the restaurant except the GM. Don't compare base wage, compare take home pay.
The problem is that it varies from place to place, as tips aren’t guaranteed income. If you don’t serve customers who tip, and tip well, your take home pay for the night could range from 20 to hundreds of dollars. That’s why tipping should be discouraged and base wage for everyone should be the standard, but that’ll take sweeping changes from the top down. If the employee doesn’t receive the optional tip, they won’t make a living wage.
Yeah I’ve had friends in the service industry as well and if they work in a place that gets a pretty good amount of business from what I understand the average income that night is usually around 100$ where as a good night could be 300$ or over that. If it’s not a busy place though or a bad week income will suck. People will complain about a lot though, I’m willing to tip my servers and people who deliver my food to my house but tipping someone for as little at making me a cup of coffee is ridiculous and people are asking for tips for almost anything these days and if you don’t tip them then you’re a villain.
@@timopint1125 Thats not how it works around the world. If the customer knows the price, they won't ever eat at a restaurant. Customers would try to intrude on the profit margin to get a better deal. Both in the west and east they do not want customers to know the actual price. In the west, you can expect the actual cost of the food to be 1/4th to an 1/8th of the price you are paying. In the east, they over price everything, so they can give "discounts" to avoid hagglers and arguements.
my dad told me if you tip someone in the restaurant is because he give you great service but if that person was give you bad service and in a mad mood don't tip.
I'm Europeean so I know my opinion doesn't hold any value for Americans, but I do think tipping should be considered a reward for good service, rather than the US tipping system which is more akin to a mafia racket - "tip or I'll do a shit job"
@@PBNIP its not about how much money the servers makes. Its about the business not paying the full wage. They can get away with paying less because people tip. That should not be accepted. In my country we tip the waiter by rounding up alot of times. They get full wage + tips. Isnt that better?
@@johncenashi5117 The job really is not worth that much and people would stop tipping if they knew servers were getting payed 16 an hour. This is not a job you for someone 30 and trying to pay a mortgage. Non chain restaurants run on tight margins. If tips went away a cheeseburger with fries would be 20 bucks.
@Krioque That’s why some/most restaurants share tips, the one that I work, the tips are share between everyone, servers, cooks, bartenders and even the dishwasher (a small percentage but still)
I am very thankful for this tipping development, because it completely made me stop visiting bars or restaurants years ago. Saved me a lot of money already!
As a Brit the tipping culture in the US blows my mind, half the time you're not even getting good service, let alone service good enough to be worth a 20% tip.
I worked as a waiter and bartender for 10 years. Tipping has gotten to be too high, and tipping anyone who isn't giving you full service for an extended period of time is ridiculous. I'm not tipping a person who hands me a bag of food through a window, but if someone is constantly refilling my drink, bringing my food in a timely manner, being polite or making our meal enjoyable, and clearing away clutter as new things come out, then I'm more than happy to tip.
@@ActrixTheTank And that's the true purpose of tips. Extra pay that comes out of your own will, because you want to reward an exceptionally good service
this, but Tip Jar. They're not gonna swipe their card for you, but a jar full of money and people expecting you to put money in it as well? At least that would be more dramatic.
When I was younger, I used to be a pizza delivery driver. Every company I worked for paid me a wage but honestly it wasn't enough to justify the cost of keeping my vehicle in service. With tips I was able to make sure I had gas in my car for the next shift. I was also able to keep the maintenance up on my vehicle. I remember at the time with my wage and tips I was averaging around $18 per hour, but that does not count the cost of the vehicle and fuel. so honestly, I was probably only making around $13 per hour after expenses. Now when I order pizza or mexican or whatever I will call in my order and drive and pick my food up because price of food and fuel has got so expensive that its cheaper for me to drive and get it myself. The past few years I have avoided going to dine in restaurants because the price of the food and the expected tips.
I mean, if the money actually went to the waiter or whomst'd'ever, it's one thing. Unfortunately, in a lot of cases, it goes directly into the manager's pocket along with half of the waiter's salary that's defined as "rewards for good work" and is literally never given to them. Allows to pay below the minimal wage with this loophole. My aunt used to work as a waitress when I was a kid and she got bullied into giving up the tip money to her boss, and she couldn't leave at the time. This shit is scary.
I always feel like I’m being guilted into tipping or when they ask “would you like to round up the rest for donation to children’s hospital” even worse when big chains like Panda Express does it.
Rounding up for donations becomes a tax writeoff for the corporation as they can claim that they made the donation with their money. If you want to donate, do it in your name so you get the tax benefits, not the corpa
I get asked that a lot and I always say no. Idc what they think, inflations a bitch and I need to look out for myself. I’m not even sure these donations go to the right people
@@orbbb24 the main point is that the company uses it as a tip write off and they arent actually donating it. theyve already donated money and are just trying to make some more off of it by showing everyone theyre “partnered” with a charity.
I'm so tired of being pressured into tipping. I only tip at sit down restaurants, if I get food delivered, or on the off chance I get valet parking somewhere. Also I find it crazy Starbucks is asking for tips considering how much they pay employees
I tip barbers/hairdressers gratuitously if I like my haircut, but I’ll be damned if I ever start tipping at drive through windows and the like. Also yah I’m not tipping a barista unless there’s some magical extenuating circumstance where I believe they’ve really earned an extra dollar for pouring a cup of coffee (almost never)
I'm with you, I tip for actual service when I feel it was done well. That's always been the point... pay for exceptional service, not because the company isn't paying their employees adequately. Now most of the places I where people do work for tips almost always make quite a bit more working for tips than being paid what the companies would pay them, and I can say that minimum wage gets you minimum effort employees (look at fast food in the US). What is going on now is bad, but paying minimum wage doesn't just fix things.. it just exchanges one problem for another.
Recently visited Stockholm and gave a tip 2 times due to 90% of the payment screen was different options with tip included. Apparently restaurant owners really want to cut wages and rely on tipping here as well...
Restaurants are basically the only place where you sometimes see ppl tip here in scandinavia. Only if you get exceptional good service. I have tipped one time this past year, and it was exactly for that. Im in Denmark. And there isnt a special law in scandinavia where they get to pay them super low wages. So the staff is getting the full amount on top.
I remember when i went to america for the first time. I looked at the menu prices at a restaurant and thought "wow that's so cheap". But at the end when we were paying, they gave us dirty looks for paying exactly the amount stated. In Australia we don't tip unless service is above and beyond. In the end the prices came out to be more expensive than the same meal in Australia.
@@Thefluff99 i'll be honest, im thinking this is a uniquely American problem. servers in Australia get paid minimum wage which is around 14.15 usd after conversion
@@domerame5913it's unfortunately more complicated than that... For starters, maybe they're trying to find a better job but until then the only place that'll hire them right now is the Cafe that only pays them... Two Whole Dollars an hour?? an amount so outrageously low that the person NEEDS tips just to survive... Like damn, is the Cafe about to go under, that it can't afford to pay its workers enough to survive?
@@KategariYami minimum wage is there for a reason, in every normal country minimum wage is at least barely livable and tips are *extra* for going above and beyond
When I worked in a restaurant in NZ, I had to explain to foreign customers a few times that we do not do tips. You're paying for the food, about a third of that price goes to paying the staff that are expected to give you good service. That's the transaction we do in this establishment, not some random surcharge - I'm not a stripper.
"If you can't afford to tip, eat at home" So, the poor (who can still pay for the meal???) are never allowed to go out and have a nice meal? Be upset with the company for not paying you enough and relying on other people to pay you, not the consumer who just wants to have a nice meal. And with how prices are nowadays, some places are cheaper to eat out at rather than making food at home.
The disgusting thing is that companies have also increased the price of items for delivery. At KFC in the UK you can get 10 mini fillets for £6. However to order online the price increases to £10, plus a £4 service charge plus a £2 delivery fee and sometimes there is even a bagging fee added too. So we are paying almost triple to get it delivered and we still get asked for a 10%, 20%, 30% or 40% tip.
I REFUSE to contribute to this culture thats seemingly been borrowed from the US. I know its very convenient but I could just as easily get ready meals or batch cook several meals to eat throughout the week.
I got a $50 massage last week , asked the front desk to break a $20 and gave a $10 tip and the front desk person was trying to shame me for not giving the 20 which is like a 32.5% tip. I laughed and said naa im good.
It's also such an America thing. I had an American client (I work in translation) and I sent my bill to him, and he added a tip. I've never asked and I would never expect a tip. I price my work with the fees and costs I have in mind. I know he just wanted to be nice so I said "thank you" and left it at that. I never happened with my other clients.
I usually like tipping people because it's nice to make someones day better with a nice tip. The problem now is that businesses expect you to tip no matter what. I've eaten at places where the tip is already added to the bill and then servers expect to be tipped again on top of that. Bonus points for businesses that force you to confirm whether you want to tip or not before even giving you the bill, almost as if they're trying to guilt trip you into tipping.
When travelling through American as a non-American the whole tipping culture drives me crazy. They can happily be rude to you while serving you and then get upset when you don't tip. Or the worst one was a girl refused to hand over my drink until I tipped.
I'm from Africa and tipping is mostly a personal choice and in most cases you tip when the expected service goes beyond what's required, at least by the judgment of the customer. So when I get asked if I want to tip I just think if the service goes past what i expect or if the the worker goes out of their way to meet a request I make
In my country there is no even question about tip usually. Especially with card payment (still astonished how still overwhelming card swiping is in USA. We use NFC basically almost everywhere for many years already). Anyways, with card payment tipping is usually done after you get check via QR code and bank application. With cash you can just pay over sum and tell "no change" for example. Or leave more money that was in toll. Or after getting change leave some of it in counter thingy. No question, pure free will. Moreover tips are legally must be excluded from check since 2021. Usually tips are from 5 to 15%, with optimal around 10%.
last year in italy i ordered some Gelato (ice cream) for me and my girl, we both got 4 huge icecream balls with diffrent flavors, the bill was like 3.5 euro or something, i gave the young dude 5 euros and he was as happy as can be, even asked if im sure. i was happy i didnt receive some change. thats how it should be
Yes, because we dont really have tipping culture in most european countries. If the owner cannot pay a decent wage, then maybe the business shouldnt exist. Restaurants are probably the only place i have seen someone tip. If they get exceptional service.
So he was happy because it probably happens rarely, his take home pay is factored in to the price. As it should be. I refused to tip multiple times in the US, on my trip. Had to deal with an angry owner and I told them its not my job to pay your workers. He got really red in his face, something tells me not many ppl say this to him
Usually it is 10 or more people when a gratuity Tip is forced on the Bill. But, Thing is, Some Places that Gratuity Tip is actually Not giving to Employees at all. The Place Might actually Keep it instead.
in Germany we give tips for really good service. i had a delivery guy last week and he made a joke about getting a evelator for him. and was such a rly nice guy. so i gave him something in extra for that nice interaction. tips are for me like that "Star" or extra mark on tests in school. if you do more what your job requires and get totally into it im glad to give him the feeling he did a amazing job.
I was the gm at a restaurant for years, and we didn't allow tips for the longest time because we paid our employees over minimum wage. After the pandemic, we had several customers insist on tipping. The amount of legalities we had to work around to get the tips on the employees' paychecks was ridiculous. And once we were able to get theirs figured out, it was a whole nother ball game to get tips for management figured out. I don't feel like the government should be involved in tips, because that's voluntary money given.
They want to track everything and exert as much control over the money supply as possible. Think about why they want everyone to use government controlled digital money.
As someone who works in one of these places that has started adding the tip feature on their payment devices, if a customer ever asks me about this, I ALWAYS tell them "Tips are appreciated, but NEVER expected." When our payment devices started doing this, we received specific training that instructs us NOT TO ASK A CUSTOMER IF THEY WANT TO TIP. If anyone is doing this, do yourself a favor, turn around, and walk away. DO NOT give them your business. No one should ever be pressuring you into tipping them. And if you see this on a payment device, don't be afraid to hit the "No Thanks" option on it. If you suspect you've been consistently receiving substandard service because you haven't been tipping, notify a supervisor, or a manager of that company. OR! Just don't give them your business. You, as a consumer, have that right.
I used to tell people the same. I’d rather slip cash to a good employee under the table than to put it on the iPad, because we pay too much in taxes already.
I always tip at restaurants with servers, valets, and anywhere else that I KNOW they tips constitute the majority of their income (i used to be a valet myself). What i hate is the tip creep into other services that traditionally got paid a standard income, like coffee shops, fast food, etc. i was buying an item online the other day and i was asked if id like to leave a tip…FOR ECOMMERCE STORE! What i wish i had was a list of business types that tell me this information so i can just proudly ignore the tip spillover businesses.
@@caulds989 Tip creep is not anything new, however. Tipping at coffee shops has been a thing for more than a decade AT LEAST, and most likely way longer than that. Tipping at the barbershops has been a thing for as long as I remember. Are they performing a service they aren't already getting paid to do? No, I don't think so. The majority of their income doesn't come from tips, that I know of. I think this is only becoming more of an issue for two reasons: One, because businesses are starting to offer MORE ways to tip (i.e. credit card), and two, having just come out of COVID lockdowns, and still recovering, a lot of people have forgotten (or younger people who never learned in the first place) that it's okay to say no. There's this misapprehension that has made people believe that if you don't tip, service workers will hate you and treat you poorly. This isn't true, and shouldn't have become a thing in the first place. Another thing that needs to stop is tipping before you've even received the service you're tipping for. All these food delivery drivers need to stop assuming that all tippers tip before they get their food. People tip because you did a good job, not so that they'll get their service without you spitting in it.
I still don't like the idea of tipping the establishment. A tip should only ever be between the customer and the specific worker(s) that serviced the customer. Neither the employer nor all the other workers have anything to do with it. That worker is the only one that did something to deserve it, and he should never have to share his tips with anyone else. Each worker should *EARN* their own tips on their own merit. Being forced to share the tips YOU earned is pretty much a form of extortion. Tips should also not be a percentage, they should be whatever the client deems reasonable, and the workers should always be happy to get anything, because anything is better than nothing. They should also never be part of the check. It's an entirely separate transaction between a customer and a worker.
@@skaruts If you want to tip a specific worker as a reward for being particularly good at their job, or whatever other reason you deem necessary, there's actually a way to tip them personally, even if they work someplace where tips are split among the workers. If you give them a tip in a sealed envelope with their name on it, that tip goes to them, and to them alone. It doesn't get shared with anyone else because it's then considered correspondence or 'mail' persay, and it's a federal offense to open another person's mail. I do also believe it should never be offered or given BEFORE a service is rendered. It's meant to be an after-thought to show kindness or reward a service. I think it's silly people are asked to tip BEFORE they even get what they want, which is what feeds into this misconception that if you don't tip, you'll receive poor service. This shouldn't be happening.
"So eat at home" is such an ignorant statement. Stop putting the responsibility on the consumer to pay a reasonable living wage. Maybe it's time to change minimum wage requirements for tipped workers to make employers have to pay their staff a decent wage and not rely on tips.
The more ridiculous thing is when ordering take out, the delivery driver see whether you're tipping or not as well as how much, and if you don't tip, no one will accept your order because other people will do it. Like ffs I'm already paying the delivery fee, why do I have to tip as well.
That's when it literally becomes a bribe, as noted in the video. Why should someone pick up your delivery order for pennies when they can just wait for one that tips fat af? Why should they care about delivering your stuff promptly and securely when they know that the "tip" is going to be low? It isn't even a tip at that point, its literally just a bribe.
Delivery fees guarantee that I tip next to 0. I have a friend working in a pizza place and I’ve never heard of their drivers refusing to deliver? Is this an issue with like grub hub or third part deliveries? Or are places like Dominos or Papa Js actually refusing delivery service?
@@mongoosegang That's the problem with all those delivery apps. Drivers earned a bit of money in the first years, but now the venture capital is running out, and they have to become profitable. So the apps reduce the share the driver gets out of the delivery fee to such a level, that it barely pays the fuel and the wear on the car. Without tips drivers lose money driving for these apps.
I remember the first time I went out of country. We went to Ireland and asked about tipping the waiters. Every one of them seemed insulted by the idea of being tipped And the tipping on delivery now is WOW. Not only do you have to order a minimum of $20 for the pizza delivery, but there is a delivery fee, and they still ask you to tip the drivers
@@noyukikun unfortunately, you're correct. Drivers drive their cars to ruin then can't afford to have them fixed because the job barely wants to pay them in the first place. Completely understandably, the customer is tired of more fees being tacked on resulting in less sympathy [little to no tip which some employees have to live on AND "tip out"(meaning give a large percentage of your earned tips to your coworkers that didn't do much or anything sometimes to earn)] towards the worker whom ends up in a legitimately bad position, and that understandable frustration from the worker might sometimes lead to [an unacceptable on their part] bad attitude towards the customer. I wish people would try to be a bit more understanding of this process to all EXCEPT the business, pay your damn employees. If you don't want to tip, that's fine, just please consider sometimes picking up your food so the driver isn't far worse off at the end of the night.
you have to be talking about doordash/ubereats. not the old fashion way of delivery. I also believe you probably heard your parents on vacation just mentioning it was expensive.
@@MCcreeper6139 I'm actually referring to the old fashion way of delivery. We don't really have doordash/ubereats in my area. Also what are you referring to with "more expensive"?
@@MCcreeper6139 as a dd and a fomor Dominos driver luckly now DD has a system to actaully fucking pay us for the most part but Dominos we got less while driving and that deleivery free didn't go to us (vs even DD where when working per order we do get the deleivery fee but when working like that its all we get wihtout tips)
Pressure for tipping is a reason I stop eating outside whenever I'm in US. Just do whatever I can on my own to avoid interaction with someone who provides "service".
it went from "the server was super attentive and a cool guy, so im gonna give him something for the trouble" to "and here's your bill, and your service fee, and the tax, and some for me."
I used to be in the service industry and I think where it is today is scummy. As if the guilt tripping was bad enough, its evolved into a vile, subtle threat to your treatment if you don't tip. And the entitlement of employees is disgusting. It's unbelievable how the industry managed to turn the employees to blame the public than their bosses for their shit wages and needing tips. Businesses can afford the wages, but they just don't want it to cut into their profit margins. That and, in addition to the awful treatment, is why I will never go back and also why I won't ever tip again until things change. It's supposed to be gratuity- not something to depend on!!
Exactly this. The employees are part of the problem. I’d say delivery services are the best example. A lot of them have an attitude of “tip well because that’s basically our pay” and then think it is okay to ruin an order if they get either a crap tip or none at all. The problem is your EMPLOYER, not the customer who doesn’t want to pay double because they’re being pressured into paying both a service fee and a tip.
Businesses can't afford the wages. If they could afford the wages they would not have the highest rate of business failure. There is a reason restaurants hire illegal aliens, and kids.
I'll still tip if the person performing the service is going above and beyond the expectations of the job. I know what it's like to be the only employee working a shift in a food service job and to have a line starting to go out the door. At the time, we weren't allowed to accept tips. But that night I said screw that rule and accepted every tip I was given with a thankful heart.
@@bayrondelcid8728 Nor is it the consumers responsibility to make up for a stingy boss not paying their workers enough. It all comes down to greedy owners.
Personally, I feel like tipping should not be a requirement at all. It should be a bonus. It also shouldn’t be taxed. The fact that tips and bonuses are taxed in the U.S. is absolutely ridiculous
I took out my grandma to go out to this nice restaurant, and the server only come twice only to get or order and serve the meals, no refills or even asking if everything was fine. When they brought the bill the server expected to get a tip and threw a fit about it to me, the customer, who did not feel I was being attended to, the audacity
To be fair I don't like servers coming to my table constantly so I would have tipped them for sure. Don't go to fancy restaurants and stuff on tips that's bad adequate and a way to become known at these businesses you won't get better service the next time lol.
At a nice restaurant the servers are more absent to make the experience seamless. So they’re not constantly pestering you. If you go to Europe that is how we usually serve
i always found it strange, the tipping system in the US ; i live in a place where it's "service included" in the price; and when i tip it's mostly because i add complexity in my order, like limited time or something like that, and it's, by social convention, hiden under the napkin ; you don't proclam what you tip, it's private matter. most likely if the waiter throw me a tablette with a tip button, i would not give anything.
It feels so unreal to me. No idea about somewhere else, but in France, you basically tip at the end of a meal at a restaurent of in a café if you had a good service and if you feel like it. Often you tip with the few coins you have left on you, from 50 cents to 2 euros.
thats because french people are stingy and never tip anywhere they go most of the time. It's more about the french mentality rather than the tipping part. Other places do tip higher but also like in france it's if you like the service and you want to tip them.
@@nemie23_ its exactly the same in Australia, tips aren't expected are much small and only given for good service and food. In my country staff get paid penalty rates on top of their normal hourly rate for night work and weekends this is normally 1.5 - 2.00x the hourly rate
@@nemie23_ Lol, nothing to do with being stingy, they just have a job and are paid for it by their boss. Anything beyond that is a bonus. Even the french translation for tipping is "pourboire" litteraly "to drink", an extra so they can buy themselves a drink.
@@roudkaross Bro you won’t make it in America. I’m sorry homie you are a bunch of stingy people with their nose so far up that a$$ you don’t respect us we don’t respect you much either 🇺🇸 😘
I went to America for the first time and I bought a beer in San Jose and the guy wanted a 20% tip for just serving it. Obviously I gave him zero but it was a strange experience
Follow the culture of the places you visit and you’ll have a smoother time. If that includes tipping, so be it. If it doesn’t, so be it. “When in Rome.” A personal protest ain’t changing anything. You know that.
if i pay 5 dollar for a burger then the service to create this burger is included already because the sheer value for the ingredients and energy is maybe 2 dollars so im already paying a premium of 3 dollars for the manpower to create and hand it over to me why should i tip? i dont get it its something else in a full service restaurant where the waiter or waitress adds to the overall experience and there is definitively a massive skill gap in that profession.
[less than minimum wage (from their employer) + tips = minimum wage] it's their fucking salery, not something they get extra on top of that for good service, have you really not understood how broken the system is?
Gotta love out of context quotes. The no tip button bit was regarding a single instance he experienced. The comment about it not being the company's fault was regarding the overall social pressure people feel to tip and the fact that people are willingly tipping more.
@@dingowingo7977 See you have an argument to support it being their fault. Why try using out of context quotes to do it instead? Laziness? I'm not disagreeing with you about the companies making the app being at least partially to blame. I simply find it to be disingenuous to use statements someone made in a misleading way to support your argument.
@@jjthe Asmongold: "oh yeah they HAVE this one at Sonic like Sonic the not like Sonic the Hedgehog the fucking hotdog place and uh i clicked the "no tip" and it it doesnt do anything, yeah it doesnt do anything there is like nothing that happens at all its just crazy man, uh yeah Sonic is dead yeah it its like you click and it doesnt finish the transaction, it just acts like you didnt hit a button so maybe you hit the tip button after that." 17:38 do you feel smarter yet? sorry that i removed all his mannerisms, if anything the stuff i removed to make it a cleaner and more readable quote actually hurt my argument cause Asmon even mentions ill-will from the app by saying "so maybe you hit the Tip button after that". Reason i thought it was so funny because a few mins earlier he tells people to just not tip if you dont wanna then recalls an instance where he wasnt able to "not tip" 😂 I am confused cause i watched this video 60 days ago and you have forgotten most of it in 24 hours 🤔
Part of the problem is the servers themselves though. Some of them don't want to go to the full minimum wage as they make significantly more with tipping. My brother is a server who makes $6.25 an hour as the state minimum wage for tipped employees. With tips he always does more than the state regular minimum wage($16) and generally somewhere between $25-30 an hour. He told me he probably wouldn't do the job if he got moved to the regular minimum wage as more people would feel less obligated to tip.
Tips are supposed to be reported to the IRS. In practice, it’s often cash, so most of it isn’t. Servers make a fortune from tips in high end establishments, so they’re not wanting a fixed $18/hour in many cases unless they make crap tips.
There's a big difference between spending an hour styling someone's hair to their request or waiting on a table for several hours and making a coffee in 30 seconds
Agreed. Tipping for personalized service can make sense (especially if you're making difficult or tedious requests). Tipping someone who stays behind a counter for merely doing their job is ridiculous.
@@CC-ru8pi exactly. I’d even argue if you go to McDonald’s and order 50 cheeseburgers all with smiley faced ketchup patterns then you should give a generous tip. But definitely not if you just order a Big Mac meal with fries.
This is how it's generally done in the UK. Table service or service that goes above and beyond, you'll tip in cash when you leave. If it's counter service, you typically don't tip because they've just stuck some food on a tray for you.
I 100% agree with it being uncomfortable with the choice to "not tip," in front of the employee who helped you. It makes you feel obligated to tip, even if and you don't want to be "rude"... Great video Asmongold!! 💯
its so sad because i work for a moving company and we are paid fair enough for our work but all of the workers act entitled to a tip from the customers and its kinda crazy.
Asmon, there does exist a thing called "Tip-Shift" differential which is enforced at the federal level. Which covers the difference of hourly wages between the sub minimum wage and minimum wage. If an employee makes less than the hourly minimum wage, the employer MUST cover the difference. Its not amazing, but it does shatter the $2/hr narrative.
I'm glad I'm in alignment with Asmongold here. I'll leave a tip based if I was provided an superior service. Grabbing my takeout, or getting something behind a counter so I can buy it from you is not providing me a service, you're doing your job.
@@aonodensetsu brother I was at Subway today and I shit you not there is a new option when you pay to "tip your sandwich artist" . I don't think we're far off from being expected to tip at McDonalds
@@majora919 I'm done with Subway. They jacked up prices and quality going down. Doesn't help the body language of the 'sandwich artists' when they speaking in their own language makes me think they are saying some nasty things. Debit machine now has three large options to tip that always show up when you trying to pay, The don't tip bar is razor thin comparted to the 10% 15% and 20% tip buttons.
A problem with TIP's is that employers will actually dip into your tips and get a cut despite never even seeing the customer. The top of the food chain has seen the scraps their employees are getting and are now trying to get their piece of the pie.
It’s illegal for a employer to take your tips. They can force you to agree to tip a certain percent of your sales to food runners and other staff but the employer themselves can’t take a cut.
@@Truhandle91 I mean if your employer is stealing your tips you call the department of labor. It’s that easy mate, if your tips are being stolen by your employer and you LET them keep doing it to you the only one to blame is you.
@@thelastgamer1the EEOC investigation would take years and you should have left a long time before then. That's how this stuff happens despite being illegal.
In Italy it’s illegal to count tips as parts of your salary. I also think I’ve never seen anyone asking for a tip in Italy in my entire life. Tips are just a bonus that you should give to someone because you’ve found their service good
Only time I ever tip here in the UK is at my barber's. Italian place, dude adds in products for free that usually cost unprompted if you're dead still. So I add 25% onto the cost to cover for it and as a thanks for his great services over the years.
I'm from Brazil, we dont really have a culture of tipping, but we have an additional 10% on some restaurants that you can just say that you wont pay and thats fine... people that works on the food industry here are used to not getting tipped, and when you do tip someone they feel really happy about it (and treat you better on the next time)
Tipping this high is like actively supporting tax evasion. Its also unfair, since depending on your location, some earn way more and some earn way less for the same work. I stopped tipping that much years ago when im in the US. I dont give a fuck about it anymore after seeing, that a guide got tipped ~ 2.500 USD from around 30 people for less than two weeks of work, for not really doing something special. Wasnt extraordinary kind, or helpful etc. Just did his job well... like it was his FUCKING JOB.... for which we already PAID in the beginn. This felt so hillarious, that i instantly said to myself, fuck that shit. They either pay their workers a fair wage from the getgo and put it on the price tag or i dont care. I have no problem with small bucks as a gratitude for above level service. But when someone insists on certain numbers like 7$/day or 25% per meal regardless of the performance, im out. Hate me, but im not here to spend money on some shady system out of misunderstood social pressure. I do my job everyday as its expected from me and i dont get tipped from my coworker or my boss, why should i tip any other person, which just does his/her job, just because its falsely labeled as "service job".
If a tip becomes a requirement, it is no longer a tip. It is a service fee
well said
Yep that's basically what it has become, but as someone who recently started serving unfortunately its just engrained into the ways ppl get paid, kitchen staff gets tipped based on net sales, so if someone leaves no tip or tips under a certain %, I quite literally lose income for that table/customer. So many people do tip tho that even when that happens servers are usually still fine, however imo expecting ppl to ignore this culture and find jobs only that have higher base pay is sometimes unrealistic. Thankfully I live in a state where its illegal to count tips towards minimum wage, but that's not everywhere. My biggest problem is with states that let you get paid $2 an hour by counting tips. If ppl really want to be against Tipping culture, they should boycott the businesses that expect it, not the tip itself which would screw over the ppl whose livelihood depends on it. For this to change, the pockets of the people who use tips as an excuse to lower wages are the ones that need to hurt rather than the employees themselves
@@brendon96068 so working people go out to eat and you expect them to pay extra for you, and you think that is good. You have to help pay BOH and that is bad. You are selfish and have entitlement issues.
Boycott the business and the owner magically realizes that people are upset with tipping? That doesn’t happen. It is much more effective to refuse to tip and let the worker who AGREED to work complain to their owner. As for the “razor thin profit margin” tough sh*t! ANY business that can not pay its workers minimum wage deserves to fail.
Many skilled workers make less money and work more hours than ENTITLED servers. Learn a skill. You write and order and carry a plate. Only needy customers crave the fake sincerity of the server rattling their beggar’s cup for more money.
After reading the comments of entitled servers I now REFUSE to tip. Servers DO NOT DESERVE more than $17 an hour. There are already touch screens and robots that replace waitresses. BRAVO!
The problem lies in that they lie about service fees and then still ask for a tip, because ultimately the 'Service fee" doesnt go to the waiter or staff anyway.
@JustSomeIdiot exactly but some1 called me entitled in the comments for basically saying this exact same thing, they bake tips into the way you get paid to the point where they aren't tips anymore, the employment expense has just been pawned off to the customers
There was a huge scandal in Romania over restaurants starting to add tipping fees in their bills. We managed to get over it overnight because people refused to pay the bills on the premise that "I didn't buy that, so I ain't paying for it". Next day they made this illegal.
GIGACHAD romanians
Yeah and now they added mandatory taxes to tips. So what happened is that people just write zero tip on the receipt and give some cash to the waiter.
@@zolikoff i think it is better this way. If is more expensive than i go some where else.
@@zolikoff seems perfect to me, no way for the employer to syphon anything off and the tax loss should be negligible in the grand scheme of things/be below "small gifts" excemptions anyways if you have that.
@@matt_9112 Oh yeah now that you mention it, I find it amazingly evil that some of the places that have the automatic selectable X% tip on a touchscreen, for card payments, will not actually give that tip to the staff, it just goes to the employer. That should be illegal.
I worked for tips for about 6 years (thru college and a couple years after) but I 100% agree that the requests for tips has gotten out of control. The other night my husband and I ordered a pizza for pickup. When we placed the order online it asked if we wanted to tip and we declined since we were picking up. When my husband went inside the guy working the front again asked if we wanted to tip. Idk what we’d be tipping for. If we got delivery I’d understand but we put our own order in online and drove to pick it up.
Well there's your problem right there. You see nothing abnormal about routine tipping of certain professions, but the reality is that there is no more logic to tipping for delivery than there is for tipping when picking up.
@@takatamiyagawa5688its not a profession making pizzas.. i wouldnt tip either, i tipped the dominos worker, didnt even say thank you and made my pizza shit
@@takatamiyagawa5688 There is a substantial difference between picking up and having it delivered. Employees working inside the store that make pizzas are underpaid, but typically above minimum wage. Delivery drivers make less than minimum wage in states that allow it, then make up the rest in tips. On top of this, delivery drivers typically drive their own vehicles that they are responsible for fueling, insuring, and maintaining. As you may be aware, keeping a vehicle on the road is very expensive these days. On top of this, the delivery driver is literally risking their life every time they leave the store and head out into deadly traffic to bring you your stack of obesity bread. If customers do not tip well, delivery drivers can literally be 'paying to work' in that the cost of fuel and maintenance exceeds their hourly income.
when it comes to food, i feel that you are paying them not to spit in it
@@planetdustbowl4825 I would deadass cook the food myself at that point
I was actually told not to leave a tip at a local Tex-Mex restaurant by the employees because they said their employer did not give them a share of the electronic tips
Mega Illegal
I've actually been hit with the 'If you can't afford to tip' shit.
As a previous employee in the food service I always respond, "If you can't afford to pay your workers then you can't afford to own a business."
did you tell your boss this when you were working for 2.86$ an hour. or did you not work at a diner or Applebee's type place?
@@domerame5913 how do you know the living wage is in the price of the food near you?? do you know the price of ingredients and all the costs of running and operating a restaurant you would need this information to honestly know this. I'm not tryna grind ya gears I'm just wondering.
@@MCcreeper6139 u are from merica?
look we tip in USA and offer terrible wages so things are cheaper. In the UK you dont tip, call it a service charge, and pay the staff a little higher but things cost an arm and a leg where you can only do it once a month. Its two different worlds and both systems are terrible in my opinion.
@@theanimer1 TRUUUUUUU
As a bartender in the Netherlands, the American tipping system has always baffled me. If I give a whole rundown of beer styles, whiskeys and explain the different flavours and the like, I will be very happy with a €20 tip on a €400 bill, cause it confirms I did a very good job. In the US, I had a service so bad, the food was cold, took 1.5 hours to arrive, the waiters would simply ignore you, were rude and grumpy, so I decided to not tip at all, and the owner actually came up angry saying I had to tip. Like, do the waiters have to punch you in the face or aim a gun at you before you're allowed to not tip? Tipping should imo be something extra you give as a gratitude, not a mandetory thing cause I think it discourages quality of service.
They are screwing with you because you aren't American.
@n00b Also a big reason waiters don't protest is because A LOT of them quite frankly make much more than minimum wage through tips. Like everyone feels bad thinking they aren't being paid minimum wage when they are likely making way more money than the cooks who are.
The whole thing is lucrative and thrives on misinformation and social pressure.
@@edwardelric4975 Yep. I make six figures and I met two waitresses who were both making more than me working part time (total hours, not days per week) at a very high end restaurant. They LOVE tipping because extremely wealthy people tip well on expensive tabs. They averaged 500/night and worked Thursday - Sunday. They also under reported their tips so their take home was higher than it should have been. However those type of restaurants are a completely different experience to going to ihop as minimum gratuity is automatically included and you know this ahead of time.
Most places here in the us will spit in your food if they know you have a history of not tipping. All of us lower class people in America are underpaid and starving, cant afford our bills and waiting for us and our family to die of whatever unafordable medical bill takes us out. Not tipping, even once is like telling the workers there in the future "Hey let out all of your pent up frustration of living in a dystopia on my food/drink"
With coffee shops here 1-3$ per drink is almost mandatory if you dont want spit in your drink
The sad thing is most if these places "divide" tips with owners getting like 80% of your tip so the worker usually only gets .25 for every 5.00
@@HonkieWithaBoomstick Tips aren't tips if the owner take them from the staff. It's a customer - waiter/tress thing.
I stopped tipping after I spent time in Japan in 2000. It made me realize the companies were getting all the money from the food/service we buy AND expected us to pay their employees' salaries. I paid for the food and service, YOU pay for your employees to work there. Every other service based business gets it except dine in restaurants.
I live in Japan and am always stressed anytime I visit Europe, America, etc., which all have tipping cultures. I have always thought the same as you, "aren't you getting paid for this?"
I have tipped in Japan, but usually in special circumstances. Even when small, it has always been deeply appreciated and not expected
Here in germany tips are a thing, but voluntarily. And 10% is the gold standard for a good tip. I tip at the barber if Im happy with the service and at restaurants if food and service was good. Both around the 10%
@@Imfphas20yeah don’t worry about tipping in Europe or the uk, it’s appreciated but never expected. This is a mainly American problem
@@Imfphas20 No one will expect a tip in Europe. The only places where people usually tip an small amount are restaurants (something like 2 or 3$ in a 100$ restaurant bill) but they won't get mad or get offended if you don't.
There is a quite easy fix for this "problem": don't tip at all. After a certain time, employeers need to fill the gap as they should from the very start.
What they do is simply transfer their salary obligations to the customer and make higher and higher profits.
In germany we usually tip if there is extraordinary service OR we round. Lets say you'd need to pay 18,50 then you tip 1,50.
Beeing to the US multiple times and it really hurts me. Because not only is it extremly expensive over there but also you'll never pay the offered prices since
a) they are not able to put the price incl. taxes on the menue
b) 15-20% tip is expected. So if you go out and eat for 25$ you have another 5$ on top. That sums up quite fast...
The problem is the impact to all the people on the ground. It's easy to say just don't tip, and it probably would eventually force companies to start paying fair wages, but in the meantime it's the underpaid workers who will be impacted the most. I think first they need to eliminate the tip worker minimum wage.
@@daboss640 i agree. The Tip worker min. wage is a ridicilous concept.
Black people are way ahead of you on the no tipping strategy.
It's amazing how there is a "minimum wage" and yet, that is not the "minimum". They are in America, speaking their native language and the word "minimum" has different meaning. Amazing!
@@daboss640 1. It's not your problem to pay for these worker's salary and 2. If you don't stop tipping, they companies won't pull it out.
Think on the perspective of the company. You getting $500 extra a month on tips that you can use to pay for wages, why would you pull that out? Is there any merit for you as the owner to remove the tipping culture in your restaurant/company? No. You gain money because people are afraid of getting bashed online for not tipping. And to be fair, if tipping is a good thing, every companies in every country should've followed suit by now.
AI kiosk was a good idea and now even Jollibee in Philippines have that. Yet, we don't have tipping culture in Philippines. Because the workers here get "MINIMUM WAGE" especially if they're under a company. It's by law.
If you're tipping because you think it would help the "people on the ground", then just adopt them or sponsor their house, bills etc. I literally doesn't see any difference between tipping and begging. JUst different words.
The worst is when people got the "If you don't tip me I'm going to treat you like shit" mentality, forgetting that tipping is the reaction to your actions.
I do not tip. In my country tip is a bonus, not a main income. If anyone would ever say anything about not getting a tip I would never again visit that place.
I see this all the time on UberEats forums.
Yep, this pretty much. I had a restruant yell at me beacuse i only tipped 15% and how dare you tip so low...never come back here again! I didnt go back there again but again seeing how 20%+ is expected almost makes it more a service fee then tip.
@@Unironicunicorn5 Review is not for you, it's for the manager that will fire you
How would they know you aren't going to tip them until the service is complete? Tipping is the final step of your visit. That makes no sense.
I think we should be like other countries, get rid of tips, pay employees how much they should be paid, and price the food accordingly.
@An_Equal I realize some servers want to profit off of going the extra mile for your customers, but screw tipping culture. Its garbage and needs to go. Just because these servers wanna profit from being a "decent" employee doesn't justify its existence. No dice bro
In EU tipping is encouraged but that it's seen as a positive feedback for the service provided, in Asia tipping isn't common but if you're a tourist we understand, but some countries find it insulting to tip. NA is weirdman
this is genuine question. are the employers don't want to pay more for their employee or can't afford to pay more for their employee ?.
in my country in some restaurant instead of tips, in the bill we put a service charge that gonna be given to the employee so like mandatory tips, and we can still pay a living wage for the employee.
@An Equal i dont see how european service is any worse then a waiter that literally asks u for a tip at that point im already annoyed
@An Equal don't you get what a tip was once? you did a better job than i expected: "here have a few bucks as gratitude." now it's: "pay me extra i rely on it. or be ridiculed because i can't ask my boss to pay me what i am worth." let them do their worse jobs and get no tip for it. it's fine.
I have a distain for the places/ services that want you to tip up front before receiving a service. It's like, you worry about not giving a "good enough" tip then the service will do worse than the bare minimum. But if you leave a good tip, it still feels like the bare minimum and you can't change your tip to reflect the service you got >.>
Agreed. It's not a tip if it's upfront. It's bribery and extortion.
Bribery on your part so you can get good service.
Extortion on their part "if you want me to do my job, you'll have to pay me extra first"
This, I hate it, I feel like I don’t tip well enough right away my food will be tempered with and/or I’ll be the last one serviced etc.
Just think of it as pre-ordering a digital game. There is no reason for doing it, but some still do.
Just stop tipping upfront.
Tipping is great when is totally optional without guilt tripping or any other kind of manipulation tactics. It needs to be just an option to give an extra reward to the one who's giving you a service that you honestly appreciate higher than what they are charging.
Companies asking you to pay their employees through tips is a sign that they aren't paying them enough.
Facts
Said by someone who doesn't understand how operating a restaurant works. Most restaurants pull between 5 to 9 cents to the bottom line for every dollar spend.
@@johnrodgers8457 Other countries can operate restaurants just fine without tipping.
@@byteresistorsure they can. Food for thought what happens to restaurants in the US when they increase the cost of everything on the menu overnight to make the change?
Also I was a tipped employee for 15 years. I'd take tips over set wage any day. Too many people making that argument don't earn a living off tips. Maybe mind your own business
@@johnrodgers8457 Then why do restaurants in other countries do just fine without it? Trying to pass off your employee costs to customers is a scumbag move. All you did was point out that most restaurant owners don't actually know how to run a profitable business, and so rely on paying shit wages to keep the lights on. There is zero reason why a restaurant can't just charge the profitable price for their goods and services like literally every other industry does.
in australia tipping is super uncommon, people only tip if they feel the service they recieved was above and beyond what would be considered normal. its something that has to be EARNED and not just expected. or its just a jar at the counter to chuck loose change into lol
That is how tipping should be or simply tipping away the change because it's not worth the wait
I denmark you dont tip at all like tipping here does not exits thats why for me when i went to thailand on vacation i was super confused when annother tourist shit on me for not tipping lol
as it should be
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko Yeah, "rounding up" is very common in the Czech Republic because you just don't have to bother with having your wallet full of small coins, if something costs e.g. 95, you give them a 100 CZK bill and tell them to keep it. But sometimes even this kind of "tip" can be 20 or 25 %, especially for cheap things, e.g. 8 CZK -> a 10 CZK coin OR 15 CZK -> a 20 CZK coin
its only NA that has a tipping culture, thats USA, Canada and Mexico. Nowhere else in the world has it. Or if they do its like busker work. stuff that is given free, or cheap.
I think the most fucked up thing about it is the reversal of the tipping meta. Now you tip so you don't get shitty service, not tipping AFTER you've received exceptional service.
Yup, that's why I stopped eating out or using uber apps, I'd tip but it's never enough apparently so you get treated like shit, I worked for uber a short time and I saw people putting food on door handles so when the customer opened their door it would fall and make a mess, shameful, even when I got an order I was going to lose money on I still treated everyone with the same respect
I remember trying out a breakfast place with my gramps and sister. We were all paying for are own food separately. I just ordered regular eggs and toast, I ended up getting my eggs raw. The eggs whites weren't fully cooked and were goopy, snotty lookin. I kindly, as nicely as I could, asked are waiter if I could get my eggs cooked. I told them I didn't care if they were burnt, as long as there fully cooked, ill be happy. They gave me new eggs and it was the same story, my eggs were liquid. I ended up not eating my food and my family were getting angry at me, calling me picky. THERE RAW EGGS! Do you want to eat slime?!? I just waited for my family to be done with their food then when it came to the bill, all of them put down some kind of tip, but I didn't. If I couldn't even eat at a restaurant, which im just throwing away money, then why should I leave a tip?? I came there for one thing and I didn't even get that thing. And my family are getting even more ticked off at my calling me rude and saying that its the only way are waiter makes a living..... THATS NOT MY FAULT! In the end, I left still hungry and had my family chew my ear out.
Just came back from Japan, I love it. No one expects you to tip, no one wants your tips, just be a good and respectful customer.
Had the same experience there just last December! How liberating it was.
And the nice thing is, if you do feel like tipping it carries even more good-will because nobody expected you to.
@@chriscampbell4857 *No one wants it
i want to see ppl in mc donald in usa make a normal salary.
All they want you is to recommend their place to your friends and come back again..... yeah, thats GOLDEN.I would return 100%.
always found it interesting how people cared more about how much they were being tipped than how much they were being paid.
Probably because they're never going to be paid minimum wage until the government fixes that.
Because they didn’t want to learn a real skill or use their own brain to better their lives so they want the person already paying for the service to now also pay them more for the “more than likely shitty service” they gave them. All while constantly complaining about being a server
@@Ragecon87 the most American take of paying liveable wages which is normal in every other western country for service staff....
@@Ragecon87 most skills in a modern economy aren't 'real skills' in fact some of the high end jobs aren't even productive they just serve white collar clientele who happen to pay more. Western economics is such a huge con and has basically been a massive brainwashing campaign for rich people wanting to keep their money since the 1950s. Other countries don't view accountants and business owners as commodities in fact they don't even care who is comes from. Only in the US and even Europe do people have this misguided belief countries trade for the people and not the product.
@@Ragecon87 And yet you expect those people to be there to serve you when you go to a restaurant, or check you out at the store, or to help maintain your house if you're too busy to mow your own lawn or clean your own house. If you want services, expect to be charged so that these people can live their lives while making yours easier.
Tipping is a way for CEO’s to get around paying a fair wage. They could pay employees more but choose not to.
This is true. I commented this elsewhere as someone who waited tables in “fine dining/upscale” restaurants for a decade. Waiters “tip out” roughly 3% of their sales to be distributed to the “non-tipped” employees. So if I sell $1,000 worth of food/drinks in a shift, I pay $30 out of my hourly. The hourly is so low, if I get tipped 0 dollars that day, I paid $30 to work that day.
It’s another example of the way employers are stingy.
I made a livable wage thanks to tips. But if my employer paid me a livable wage and customers didn’t tip, I’d be fine with that system too. I can see both sides.
There was a Japanese restaurant I used to go in NYC, the food was so tasty and authentic. The first time I went, after I paid there was no space for me to write the tip amount. I asked the waitress there, who proudly told me that "we have pride in what we make here and we don't require tips . We just happy our customers love our food." It shocked me. As someone who come from another country to live in the States, I totally appreciate it. I don't mind paying a bit more for great food instead of being forced to pay a lot of tips when the service was bad.
What was the name of the restaurant?
And about the prices, people always in these videos complain that the prices would rise, but cmon you are already paying 20-30% more on top of the price, what if every item would go up by 15% and you didn't "need" to tip, you would actually get the food cheaper.
We have a restaurant wher the owner is Japanese and he keeps the tradition of "no tipping is allowed" and everybody likes it so much the place is packed. It's also a nice place.
its funny cus then they would blame immigrants for taking their jobs lmao
Tipping in Japan is seen as disrespectful to the establishment.
I like it. No tipping allowed, and only paying $2.13/hour for your wait staff. Brilliant!
@@StandYourGround69 highest iq liberal
@@currently_In_stealth_behind_u You can't really put "high IQ" and. "Liberal" in the same sentence.
Imagine having full time employment but needing to beg daily at your job? Sounds insane
American Capitalism at its finest
@@clutchcure6821 this is like saying if you don't like being hot, try being in a fire covered in gasoline it's much worse, but America is a first world country silly, there needs to be a standard, and begging at you job when most people walk around with a 500 dollar+ mobile phone isn't exactly living in a mud hut in the middle of a cow heard, the scalings are different, the standards are different, it's like comparing the flu to ebola and saying "live through that it's worse" such a dumb argument we know some countries are so poor they eat dirt and bark but we are talking about a first world modern technological and medical advancement hub of the world it needs a standard of living and wages
@@clutchcure6821 Maybe we have TV and smartphones but honestly most of us are just subsisting and never able to save just like the people in 3rd world.
@@MsHojat well each person in the position of receiving tips is under different conditions, some jobs will take all the tips and then hand out whatever is left to the employees, some employees will sabotage others for tips even if they are getting a wage, some people are greedy as hell and others are desperate for different reasons, get rid of tips and pay a clear hourly fee would be the general solution but some people and companies make so much extra money from tips you wouldn't see it gone everywhere unless you made it law, I'm not saying get rid of tipping but get rid of forced/coerced tipping when let's face it, in some cases you either tip or you get a burger from off the floor or the duct tape the bumped to your broken car because you get the absolute bare minimum service despite you paying the full asking price
its crazy lol check out uber eats and doordash subreddits those guys are on a whole other level about this. "NO TIP NO TRIP" more like NO TRIP NO INCOME
5:16 no that's not ok at all. That's not a tip, that's a scam. A tip should never be requested or presumed, and it should NEVER be part of the check. *A tip should always be an entirely separate and voluntary transaction between a customer and the specific worker(s) that attended that customer, and have nothing at all to do with the check or the employer.* It's a direct *offering* to the worker, and that's it. Team tips are also a scam, as the workers that weren't involved in serving you are not entitled to a share of your tips. They did nothing to deserve being tipped by you.
As a mechanic I've never heard of any shop asking or having a suggestion during check out for tipping. The tire/oil boys get tips sometimes. But it's 100% customer driven. And it's like 1000 degrees outside in FL so it's pity more than anything.
mechanics can deliberately sabotage someone's car just because he didn't get a tip well? he wanted to end someone's life over $10?
is america morally bankrupt?
Right, like I tipped my exhaust guy because I brought it in during a snow storm and they were having slush fall down on them and down their shirt lol. I felt bad.
The moment I started getting asked for tips when I came to PICK UP my food from a call in, with no service required on their part, I knew these businesses just need to be allowed to die out if they can't pay their employees.
So they didn't have to pick up the phone, put in your order, plan it around the other tickets to get it out before all the people who actually came to the restaurant?
@@Halosrighthand That's their job. They get paid to do all of that. The bare fuckin minimum isn't tip worthy.
They aren’t going to die out, BECAUSE they don’t pay their employees shit.
@@smithynoir9980 exactly
@@Halosrighthand ok, i'll call some other place. Now you lost 100% instead of maybe 10-ish extra
If here in Finland you try to tip, people might see it as bragging with your money. The only time I’ve given tip it was denied by the waitress.
The only time I tip in restaurants is to show off in a nice restaurant. I'm sure they're very impressed by that 10 euros. And the bill was like 200 euros, which is A LOT for two people and 10 euros was still a huge tip. Usually its like 1 - 4 euros if that.
Never been there, you got me convinced, what's best time to come over? 😂
Only time I've given a tip was when a waiter saved me from getting robbed
@@latuman If you literally tip 1% you're just being a douche, just give them polite words instead of an insult, they aren't panhandlers.
@@RobotMasterSplash Rounding up is somewhat common though. Can be the same as tipping 1%
I live in the UK so tipping is a strange thing to do. But if I am in a place and someone goes well and beyond what I should expect then I consider it, the strange thing is that most will refuse it.
In the Czech Republic, and perhaps most of Europe, tipping is a tool for service quality recognition. If it sucked, you don't tip. If you were happy, you do. Commonly, you get anywhere between 10-15 per cent, and aside of that people are used to rounding up. Here, you mostly show your appreciation by coming back and giving good review since that's what keeps the business running in the first place, customer-side. I've worked in gastro for almost two years so I do value the work, if it's worth it.
Personally, I never tip in fastfoods or beforehand (such as food ordering apps, where I already pay for gas and premium). And if someone basically forced me to tip, and especially something like 30+ percent as seen in those kiosk tablets, I'd be like where tf is my foot massage?
I don't live in Europe but I normally see videos of people playing in streets. I think it's called "Basking", they play music, people donates. Tipping should be like that. If they do a good performance, people will tip. If you do bad, some may do but mostly don't. In the end, the tipping and/or basking is all optional and should not be forced in your face.
Im in Denmark, I have only tipped once in the past year. At a restaurant with exceptional service.
As a european, that's so weird. If I pay order 2 cokes for 5€ each, so it's 10€. Why pay 14€ for it? Not my job to pay the wages of the workers.
Yep. You're already paying for OVERPRICED drinks and food, because you pay for the fact you're in a restaurant... and part of that money should be going to paying the staff.
5 Euro for Cola, WHAT. I can get 2L bottle from the store for 1.05€ and make my own ice in fridge.
I could drown myself with 14€ 😂People are nuts for paying this OP prices to begin with, not even talking about the tip.
Who tf tips for a can of pop... just go to a vending machine... lmfao
@@4X10S its called fair prices, a tshirt made by child slave workers wil always be cheaper than a tshirt company that pays fair wages in healthy workenvironments
@@vaguehenri802 at a restaurant? Stop bs . Its at least 3euro for a 33cl bottle, at a club its 4 to 5 in Belgium
I am from Europe and when I went my first time to the US, I went to Miami for Ultra Miami. So I was at this beach party and wanted to buy a Beer. So they charged me 33 dollars for that beer. I saw on the bill service charge was included. So I walked away and the waitress rudely asked me: "what about a tip." I turned around and told her what do you need a tip for when all you did was open the can of beer and charge 33 dollars.
You have been robbed by the good people of America, even without tipping
What beer costs 33$
@@reaziel9438 yea this beach party was at this real fancy 5star hotel 😅
@@reaziel9438 Beer that is at an event full of relatively wealthy individuals, and a full capture on the market. When the only beer available is a $33 beer.......
Stay in EU, thanks
Tipping culture is so weird for many of us outside the US, though some places here may ask you if you want to tip your driver or server etc but it is never expected. I have given a tip but only on rare occasions when I really liked the person whose service I used
I recently got a job at Starbucks and we get a fair bit over minimum wage PLUS benefits... DO NOT TIP AT STARBUCKS. In general don't tip. Plus besides tipping, I'm getting bombarded are virtually every grocery store to donate to charity.
I passed through a US airport. As a Brit, I found the whole experience infuriating and sad. Prices should be final and include gratuity. Also some checks had auto-gratuity and the server asked for more tip on top of it.
Don't fall for the scams. Tipping is NEVER necesary if you are not being actively waited on.
You tip literally everywhere. I bought a bottle of water on an Amtrak and was requested to tip.
Just look them in they eye amd say "no" that's it. Don't encourage begging
Most POS are setup to ask for tips. Just select no. Don’t tip unless you have someone waiting on you unless you really want to
Ya'll are just falling for tourist traps. You are 100% not obligated to tip anywhere in the US. Some places have a automatic "gratuity" charge for large parties (like 10+ people) and its just a fancy word for a service charge (they're moving tables around, putting the entire kitchen on your table's meals, etc. -- its not a tip for sure).
Otherwise they just put a suggested tip, like 15%, 20%, 30% and hope you make the assumption that everyone does it (we don't).
I refuse to tip for take-out. You didnt serve me, i picked up food the guy in the back made. Tip was always explained to me as a thanks for a job well done.
N u paid for delivery.. and service fees..but I have to tip?
Exactly. Or someone going above and beyond.
Nah terrible take. Your server also just gives you food that a guy in the back made, except they get it plated and walk it to you. We get all your food boxed up and make sure we have everything in there (you'd be missing entire dinners if not for the person coordinating takeout where I work) and you guys don't even throw a couple of bucks on hundred dollar orders that we have to put up to an hour into. Tip to be a better human because some people can't even afford their bills after working 12 hour days when they get shitty tippers that they have to pay to wait on via tipouts and such.
@@jacobmeals6930 Difficulty of the work doesn't mean anything. It is not the consumer's fault that carry-out deliveries don't get tipped because for decades it has not been the standard to tip for things where direct service interactions aren't involved. It's also not the consumer's responsibility if a restaurant isn't properly paying their carry-out employees. I'm not saying the system isn't extremely unfair in its' current state to carry-out workers, but you don't get to call the customers sh*tty humans when carry-out tips were never an established practice, and you signed up for a job with that drawback. I actually hope that less people tip carry-out because it will then force a food price increase that translates into actual wage bumps, but it will suck for the people currently in that situation and I get the frustration.
@@jacobmeals6930 lol these people think back of house does everything and it drops magically in the front
Im gonna say it:
Tipping is out of control because america allowed businesses to treat tips as wages.
I used to work for a casual fine dining restaurant. We gave 25% of total tips to the chefs. I was going at $3/hr while the chefs were $15-20/hr. On average, I give about 3-400$/week. Tipping culture has definitely gone way to out of hand and this is coming from someone that was a part of the industry. What needs to happen are restaurants to raise their prices so that the they can pay their servers actual wages!
How slow was it that you got tipped only $50 a day at an upscale restaurant?
You are right, they need to pay a fair wage. It is not the customers job. I refused to tip when I visited the US. I had to deal with angry owners, and I told them point blank, that its their job to pay workers, not me. And most of them began to ramble. Im sorry but americans need to stop being shamed in to tipping, it is weak
@@KarmasAB123 I didn't realize this comment, but I would've quit if I only made $50/day.
I worked about 4 days/week and tipping out average $300-400/week is equivalent to making about $1200-1600/week.
Just to clarify: Tipping out is when you give a percentage of your tips earned to the tip pool for bussers, runners, and chefs.
Ex. If I make $100 that day and the tip out is 25% of your earnings, I go home with $75.
"20% is kind of a cheap tip" So is not paying your workers a living wage.
We don't want a living wage though, we do better than that bare minimum off of tips. Like, we all have circles talking about our stocks and investments and teaching others about options etc.
@@user-zj4rg9kn1c Just include the cost of service in the prices.
I would rather choose higher prices and no tips instead of lower food prices and constant begging through the terminal.
@@kitkitos but that will require them raging wages anywhere from 6x to 30x. The price raises will be much worse in places without alcohol because the profit margin is like 30 percent on food, but that's before taxes and most other operating expenses.
So, your bill will go up like 20 to 30 percent if not more.
@@user-zj4rg9kn1c >your bill will go up 20-30%
Yeah, and the average tip is 20-30% anyway, so just charge me that amount, pay the wait staff decently for a decent job, and save me the embarrassment.
@@user-zj4rg9kn1c And when I say "pay the wait staff decently," I also mean "fire those who perform poorly".
Good work should be a responsibility, not a reward for tips.
One of my issues with tipped positions is this; i have MANY friends in the service industry. I used to work in the restaurant industry for almost 20 years. Tipped employees always found a way to complain about how little they made while simultaneously making FAR more than anyone else in the restaurant except the GM. Don't compare base wage, compare take home pay.
The problem is that it varies from place to place, as tips aren’t guaranteed income. If you don’t serve customers who tip, and tip well, your take home pay for the night could range from 20 to hundreds of dollars. That’s why tipping should be discouraged and base wage for everyone should be the standard, but that’ll take sweeping changes from the top down. If the employee doesn’t receive the optional tip, they won’t make a living wage.
not the problem of the costumer. Tell me the real Price for the food or go broke...thats the concept around the world..
Yeah I’ve had friends in the service industry as well and if they work in a place that gets a pretty good amount of business from what I understand the average income that night is usually around 100$ where as a good night could be 300$ or over that. If it’s not a busy place though or a bad week income will suck. People will complain about a lot though, I’m willing to tip my servers and people who deliver my food to my house but tipping someone for as little at making me a cup of coffee is ridiculous and people are asking for tips for almost anything these days and if you don’t tip them then you’re a villain.
@@timopint1125 Thats not how it works around the world. If the customer knows the price, they won't ever eat at a restaurant. Customers would try to intrude on the profit margin to get a better deal. Both in the west and east they do not want customers to know the actual price. In the west, you can expect the actual cost of the food to be 1/4th to an 1/8th of the price you are paying. In the east, they over price everything, so they can give "discounts" to avoid hagglers and arguements.
Exactly
my dad told me if you tip someone in the restaurant is because he give you great service but if that person was give you bad service and in a mad mood don't tip.
I'm Europeean so I know my opinion doesn't hold any value for Americans, but I do think tipping should be considered a reward for good service, rather than the US tipping system which is more akin to a mafia racket - "tip or I'll do a shit job"
I never understood the American tipping culture. It's your employer's job to pay you your wages, not mine.
All these people complaining are silly. Ive never had a single friend complain about making their money from tips. Good servers make a lot of money
@@PBNIP its not about how much money the servers makes. Its about the business not paying the full wage. They can get away with paying less because people tip. That should not be accepted.
In my country we tip the waiter by rounding up alot of times. They get full wage + tips. Isnt that better?
@@johncenashi5117 The job really is not worth that much and people would stop tipping if they knew servers were getting payed 16 an hour. This is not a job you for someone 30 and trying to pay a mortgage. Non chain restaurants run on tight margins. If tips went away a cheeseburger with fries would be 20 bucks.
@@PBNIP Then why doesn't McDonald's charge $20 for a cheeseburger and fries? They don't ask for a tip either.
@Krioque That’s why some/most restaurants share tips, the one that I work, the tips are share between everyone, servers, cooks, bartenders and even the dishwasher (a small percentage but still)
I am very thankful for this tipping development, because it completely made me stop visiting bars or restaurants years ago. Saved me a lot of money already!
Seriously, learn to make buffalo wings at home with something that can airfry and its a godsend!
I still go to places and order food. I haven't tipped in years.
*laughs in European*
As a Brit the tipping culture in the US blows my mind, half the time you're not even getting good service, let alone service good enough to be worth a 20% tip.
I worked as a waiter and bartender for 10 years. Tipping has gotten to be too high, and tipping anyone who isn't giving you full service for an extended period of time is ridiculous. I'm not tipping a person who hands me a bag of food through a window, but if someone is constantly refilling my drink, bringing my food in a timely manner, being polite or making our meal enjoyable, and clearing away clutter as new things come out, then I'm more than happy to tip.
Do you tip because they are doing their job correctly?
@@DannyKnot their job is to take your order, bring it to you, and get you a drink if you want one. Beyond that good service warrants a tip.
@@ActrixTheTank And that's the true purpose of tips. Extra pay that comes out of your own will, because you want to reward an exceptionally good service
People expecting 10$ tips for walking from kitchen to my table. I rather tip the Amazon delivery guys.
The customer should start asking for tips for choosing their restaurant… just bring your own tablet with a tip selector 😂
this, but Tip Jar. They're not gonna swipe their card for you, but a jar full of money and people expecting you to put money in it as well? At least that would be more dramatic.
When I was younger, I used to be a pizza delivery driver. Every company I worked for paid me a wage but honestly it wasn't enough to justify the cost of keeping my vehicle in service. With tips I was able to make sure I had gas in my car for the next shift. I was also able to keep the maintenance up on my vehicle. I remember at the time with my wage and tips I was averaging around $18 per hour, but that does not count the cost of the vehicle and fuel. so honestly, I was probably only making around $13 per hour after expenses. Now when I order pizza or mexican or whatever I will call in my order and drive and pick my food up because price of food and fuel has got so expensive that its cheaper for me to drive and get it myself. The past few years I have avoided going to dine in restaurants because the price of the food and the expected tips.
I mean, if the money actually went to the waiter or whomst'd'ever, it's one thing. Unfortunately, in a lot of cases, it goes directly into the manager's pocket along with half of the waiter's salary that's defined as "rewards for good work" and is literally never given to them. Allows to pay below the minimal wage with this loophole. My aunt used to work as a waitress when I was a kid and she got bullied into giving up the tip money to her boss, and she couldn't leave at the time. This shit is scary.
I always feel like I’m being guilted into tipping or when they ask “would you like to round up the rest for donation to children’s hospital” even worse when big chains like Panda Express does it.
Rounding up for donations becomes a tax writeoff for the corporation as they can claim that they made the donation with their money. If you want to donate, do it in your name so you get the tax benefits, not the corpa
I get asked that a lot and I always say no. Idc what they think, inflations a bitch and I need to look out for myself. I’m not even sure these donations go to the right people
@@orbbb24 the main point is that the company uses it as a tip write off and they arent actually donating it. theyve already donated money and are just trying to make some more off of it by showing everyone theyre “partnered” with a charity.
Aw, hell yeah. I just say no though.
@@etougaming2176sometimes they even take a cut of the donation...
I'm so tired of being pressured into tipping. I only tip at sit down restaurants, if I get food delivered, or on the off chance I get valet parking somewhere. Also I find it crazy Starbucks is asking for tips considering how much they pay employees
I tip barbers/hairdressers gratuitously if I like my haircut, but I’ll be damned if I ever start tipping at drive through windows and the like. Also yah I’m not tipping a barista unless there’s some magical extenuating circumstance where I believe they’ve really earned an extra dollar for pouring a cup of coffee (almost never)
I'm with you, I tip for actual service when I feel it was done well. That's always been the point... pay for exceptional service, not because the company isn't paying their employees adequately. Now most of the places I where people do work for tips almost always make quite a bit more working for tips than being paid what the companies would pay them, and I can say that minimum wage gets you minimum effort employees (look at fast food in the US).
What is going on now is bad, but paying minimum wage doesn't just fix things.. it just exchanges one problem for another.
How much do they pay their employees? I agree, just curious
@@xtcaudio I believe Starbucks starts at 15 though I think they might have raised it in the past year
Those scenarios are the only viable ones in my opinion, asmon saying not to tip across the board just makes me not like him
Recently visited Stockholm and gave a tip 2 times due to 90% of the payment screen was different options with tip included. Apparently restaurant owners really want to cut wages and rely on tipping here as well...
Restaurants are basically the only place where you sometimes see ppl tip here in scandinavia. Only if you get exceptional good service. I have tipped one time this past year, and it was exactly for that. Im in Denmark. And there isnt a special law in scandinavia where they get to pay them super low wages. So the staff is getting the full amount on top.
i remember when i had a pizza delivered and they asked for a $25 tip but only gave them $5 could see the bitterness on their face
I remember when i went to america for the first time. I looked at the menu prices at a restaurant and thought "wow that's so cheap". But at the end when we were paying, they gave us dirty looks for paying exactly the amount stated. In Australia we don't tip unless service is above and beyond. In the end the prices came out to be more expensive than the same meal in Australia.
You didn't do anything wrong, screw those entitled jerks.
The servers literally get paid nothing if you don't tip.
@@Thefluff99 i'll be honest, im thinking this is a uniquely American problem. servers in Australia get paid minimum wage which is around 14.15 usd after conversion
@@domerame5913it's unfortunately more complicated than that... For starters, maybe they're trying to find a better job but until then the only place that'll hire them right now is the Cafe that only pays them... Two Whole Dollars an hour?? an amount so outrageously low that the person NEEDS tips just to survive...
Like damn, is the Cafe about to go under, that it can't afford to pay its workers enough to survive?
@@KategariYami minimum wage is there for a reason, in every normal country minimum wage is at least barely livable and tips are *extra* for going above and beyond
When I worked in a restaurant in NZ, I had to explain to foreign customers a few times that we do not do tips. You're paying for the food, about a third of that price goes to paying the staff that are expected to give you good service. That's the transaction we do in this establishment, not some random surcharge - I'm not a stripper.
I was kindly told by a waiter in NZ it was not necessary to tip. I wish our wait staff in the US made more money so they didn’t expect it.
I mean, you could be a stripper
I knew several girls that were students, waitresses, and strippers all at the same time.
@@andrew8168 Wait... What
Students M-F morning, waitresses in the evenings then stripping on weekends.
"If you can't afford to tip, eat at home"
So, the poor (who can still pay for the meal???) are never allowed to go out and have a nice meal?
Be upset with the company for not paying you enough and relying on other people to pay you, not the consumer who just wants to have a nice meal. And with how prices are nowadays, some places are cheaper to eat out at rather than making food at home.
The disgusting thing is that companies have also increased the price of items for delivery. At KFC in the UK you can get 10 mini fillets for £6. However to order online the price increases to £10, plus a £4 service charge plus a £2 delivery fee and sometimes there is even a bagging fee added too. So we are paying almost triple to get it delivered and we still get asked for a 10%, 20%, 30% or 40% tip.
Bro no one ever asks for a tip from kfc 😂
@@20ZZ20 doordash drivers bringing it to you do
@@20ZZ20did you even read the comment
@@aidan4031 No.
I REFUSE to contribute to this culture thats seemingly been borrowed from the US. I know its very convenient but I could just as easily get ready meals or batch cook several meals to eat throughout the week.
I got a $50 massage last week , asked the front desk to break a $20 and gave a $10 tip and the front desk person was trying to shame me for not giving the 20 which is like a 32.5% tip. I laughed and said naa im good.
If I were u, I would leave no tip at all
i can't believe you tipped after that
@@velocityfpv5231 The person to complain was not the one doing the service. Why punish them for someone else's rude behavior?
I’m not tipping for massage unless she’s putting out 😂
I would not tip at all, so they understand how big of an asshat they were being. The tipping culture in the US is like looking in to another dimension
It's also such an America thing. I had an American client (I work in translation) and I sent my bill to him, and he added a tip. I've never asked and I would never expect a tip. I price my work with the fees and costs I have in mind. I know he just wanted to be nice so I said "thank you" and left it at that. I never happened with my other clients.
I’ve stopped going to fast food restaurants that ask for tip on the payment terminal.
I usually like tipping people because it's nice to make someones day better with a nice tip. The problem now is that businesses expect you to tip no matter what. I've eaten at places where the tip is already added to the bill and then servers expect to be tipped again on top of that. Bonus points for businesses that force you to confirm whether you want to tip or not before even giving you the bill, almost as if they're trying to guilt trip you into tipping.
Exactly. The general rule for me is that if you do your service that's above and beyond, then you get a tip.
When travelling through American as a non-American the whole tipping culture drives me crazy. They can happily be rude to you while serving you and then get upset when you don't tip. Or the worst one was a girl refused to hand over my drink until I tipped.
This happened to me in canada. Wouldn’t let us leave. It was f up.. should have called the cops. We were kids too
@@acutelilmint8035they did what? Its also in Canada like that? What is going on, this needs to stop
Next in tip expansion. Give tip to policeman making the stop - before you get ticketed. Or judge before the trial for attempted bribery.
I always tip 0, no tipping whatsoever here in the UK, its not even an option in 99% of places
I'm from Africa and tipping is mostly a personal choice and in most cases you tip when the expected service goes beyond what's required, at least by the judgment of the customer. So when I get asked if I want to tip I just think if the service goes past what i expect or if the the worker goes out of their way to meet a request I make
it's pretty much every other country. this only seems to be an issue in the USA.
Even so, why do they deserve a tip either way? It's not our job to pay them, it's their employers.
In my country there is no even question about tip usually. Especially with card payment (still astonished how still overwhelming card swiping is in USA. We use NFC basically almost everywhere for many years already).
Anyways, with card payment tipping is usually done after you get check via QR code and bank application.
With cash you can just pay over sum and tell "no change" for example. Or leave more money that was in toll. Or after getting change leave some of it in counter thingy.
No question, pure free will. Moreover tips are legally must be excluded from check since 2021.
Usually tips are from 5 to 15%, with optimal around 10%.
@@DimkaTsv " keep the change" is pretty much the nicest way to tip in most places where tipping isnt a common thing
they have food and money in Africa?
why they be constantly asking for donations then?
last year in italy i ordered some Gelato (ice cream) for me and my girl, we both got 4 huge icecream balls with diffrent flavors, the bill was like 3.5 euro or something, i gave the young dude 5 euros and he was as happy as can be, even asked if im sure. i was happy i didnt receive some change. thats how it should be
Yes, because we dont really have tipping culture in most european countries. If the owner cannot pay a decent wage, then maybe the business shouldnt exist. Restaurants are probably the only place i have seen someone tip. If they get exceptional service.
So he was happy because it probably happens rarely, his take home pay is factored in to the price. As it should be. I refused to tip multiple times in the US, on my trip. Had to deal with an angry owner and I told them its not my job to pay your workers. He got really red in his face, something tells me not many ppl say this to him
Usually it is 10 or more people when a gratuity Tip is forced on the Bill.
But, Thing is, Some Places that Gratuity Tip is actually Not giving to Employees at all. The Place Might actually Keep it instead.
in Germany we give tips for really good service. i had a delivery guy last week and he made a joke about getting a evelator for him. and was such a rly nice guy. so i gave him something in extra for that nice interaction. tips are for me like that "Star" or extra mark on tests in school. if you do more what your job requires and get totally into it im glad to give him the feeling he did a amazing job.
I was the gm at a restaurant for years, and we didn't allow tips for the longest time because we paid our employees over minimum wage. After the pandemic, we had several customers insist on tipping. The amount of legalities we had to work around to get the tips on the employees' paychecks was ridiculous. And once we were able to get theirs figured out, it was a whole nother ball game to get tips for management figured out. I don't feel like the government should be involved in tips, because that's voluntary money given.
They want to track everything and exert as much control over the money supply as possible. Think about why they want everyone to use government controlled digital money.
They want to tax for tipping lol they tax you for owning money
Why can you not just use the don't ask don't tell policy?
As someone who works in one of these places that has started adding the tip feature on their payment devices, if a customer ever asks me about this, I ALWAYS tell them "Tips are appreciated, but NEVER expected." When our payment devices started doing this, we received specific training that instructs us NOT TO ASK A CUSTOMER IF THEY WANT TO TIP. If anyone is doing this, do yourself a favor, turn around, and walk away. DO NOT give them your business.
No one should ever be pressuring you into tipping them. And if you see this on a payment device, don't be afraid to hit the "No Thanks" option on it. If you suspect you've been consistently receiving substandard service because you haven't been tipping, notify a supervisor, or a manager of that company. OR! Just don't give them your business. You, as a consumer, have that right.
I used to tell people the same. I’d rather slip cash to a good employee under the table than to put it on the iPad, because we pay too much in taxes already.
I always tip at restaurants with servers, valets, and anywhere else that I KNOW they tips constitute the majority of their income (i used to be a valet myself). What i hate is the tip creep into other services that traditionally got paid a standard income, like coffee shops, fast food, etc. i was buying an item online the other day and i was asked if id like to leave a tip…FOR ECOMMERCE STORE!
What i wish i had was a list of business types that tell me this information so i can just proudly ignore the tip spillover businesses.
@@caulds989 Tip creep is not anything new, however. Tipping at coffee shops has been a thing for more than a decade AT LEAST, and most likely way longer than that. Tipping at the barbershops has been a thing for as long as I remember. Are they performing a service they aren't already getting paid to do? No, I don't think so. The majority of their income doesn't come from tips, that I know of.
I think this is only becoming more of an issue for two reasons: One, because businesses are starting to offer MORE ways to tip (i.e. credit card), and two, having just come out of COVID lockdowns, and still recovering, a lot of people have forgotten (or younger people who never learned in the first place) that it's okay to say no.
There's this misapprehension that has made people believe that if you don't tip, service workers will hate you and treat you poorly. This isn't true, and shouldn't have become a thing in the first place. Another thing that needs to stop is tipping before you've even received the service you're tipping for. All these food delivery drivers need to stop assuming that all tippers tip before they get their food.
People tip because you did a good job, not so that they'll get their service without you spitting in it.
I still don't like the idea of tipping the establishment. A tip should only ever be between the customer and the specific worker(s) that serviced the customer. Neither the employer nor all the other workers have anything to do with it. That worker is the only one that did something to deserve it, and he should never have to share his tips with anyone else. Each worker should *EARN* their own tips on their own merit. Being forced to share the tips YOU earned is pretty much a form of extortion.
Tips should also not be a percentage, they should be whatever the client deems reasonable, and the workers should always be happy to get anything, because anything is better than nothing. They should also never be part of the check. It's an entirely separate transaction between a customer and a worker.
@@skaruts If you want to tip a specific worker as a reward for being particularly good at their job, or whatever other reason you deem necessary, there's actually a way to tip them personally, even if they work someplace where tips are split among the workers. If you give them a tip in a sealed envelope with their name on it, that tip goes to them, and to them alone. It doesn't get shared with anyone else because it's then considered correspondence or 'mail' persay, and it's a federal offense to open another person's mail.
I do also believe it should never be offered or given BEFORE a service is rendered. It's meant to be an after-thought to show kindness or reward a service. I think it's silly people are asked to tip BEFORE they even get what they want, which is what feeds into this misconception that if you don't tip, you'll receive poor service. This shouldn't be happening.
5:15 tipping should NEVER be a part of the bill. Its an entirely optional gift.
"So eat at home" is such an ignorant statement. Stop putting the responsibility on the consumer to pay a reasonable living wage. Maybe it's time to change minimum wage requirements for tipped workers to make employers have to pay their staff a decent wage and not rely on tips.
The more ridiculous thing is when ordering take out, the delivery driver see whether you're tipping or not as well as how much, and if you don't tip, no one will accept your order because other people will do it. Like ffs I'm already paying the delivery fee, why do I have to tip as well.
That's when it literally becomes a bribe, as noted in the video. Why should someone pick up your delivery order for pennies when they can just wait for one that tips fat af? Why should they care about delivering your stuff promptly and securely when they know that the "tip" is going to be low? It isn't even a tip at that point, its literally just a bribe.
Delivery fees guarantee that I tip next to 0. I have a friend working in a pizza place and I’ve never heard of their drivers refusing to deliver? Is this an issue with like grub hub or third part deliveries? Or are places like Dominos or Papa Js actually refusing delivery service?
Delivery fees are not passed onto the driver
@@helloenemy yea all the 3rd party delivery apps tell drivers how much you are tipping.
@@mongoosegang That's the problem with all those delivery apps. Drivers earned a bit of money in the first years, but now the venture capital is running out, and they have to become profitable. So the apps reduce the share the driver gets out of the delivery fee to such a level, that it barely pays the fuel and the wear on the car. Without tips drivers lose money driving for these apps.
I remember the first time I went out of country. We went to Ireland and asked about tipping the waiters. Every one of them seemed insulted by the idea of being tipped
And the tipping on delivery now is WOW. Not only do you have to order a minimum of $20 for the pizza delivery, but there is a delivery fee, and they still ask you to tip the drivers
sadly i doubt the driver gets payed much ;C
@@noyukikun unfortunately, you're correct.
Drivers drive their cars to ruin then can't afford to have them fixed because the job barely wants to pay them in the first place.
Completely understandably, the customer is tired of more fees being tacked on resulting in less sympathy [little to no tip which some employees have to live on AND "tip out"(meaning give a large percentage of your earned tips to your coworkers that didn't do much or anything sometimes to earn)] towards the worker whom ends up in a legitimately bad position, and that understandable frustration from the worker might sometimes lead to [an unacceptable on their part] bad attitude towards the customer.
I wish people would try to be a bit more understanding of this process to all EXCEPT the business, pay your damn employees.
If you don't want to tip, that's fine, just please consider sometimes picking up your food so the driver isn't far worse off at the end of the night.
you have to be talking about doordash/ubereats. not the old fashion way of delivery. I also believe you probably heard your parents on vacation just mentioning it was expensive.
@@MCcreeper6139 I'm actually referring to the old fashion way of delivery. We don't really have doordash/ubereats in my area.
Also what are you referring to with "more expensive"?
@@MCcreeper6139 as a dd and a fomor Dominos driver luckly now DD has a system to actaully fucking pay us for the most part but Dominos we got less while driving and that deleivery free didn't go to us (vs even DD where when working per order we do get the deleivery fee but when working like that its all we get wihtout tips)
another big issue about tipping,
to me, is that theoretically,
the tip should be go into
waiter/waitress's pocket
but in most of cases, they dont🙈
that sounds illegal
And what about bussers, food runners, expos, bar and kitchen staff?
Most? Do you have a statistic on that or u just work a few places that did that, therefore most do it?
Yes menus would be more expensive but not because costs cant be covered by income but because owners wont want to reduce their utilities.
Pressure for tipping is a reason I stop eating outside whenever I'm in US. Just do whatever I can on my own to avoid interaction with someone who provides "service".
it went from "the server was super attentive and a cool guy, so im gonna give him something for the trouble" to "and here's your bill, and your service fee, and the tax, and some for me."
Service has really gone down.
I used to be in the service industry and I think where it is today is scummy. As if the guilt tripping was bad enough, its evolved into a vile, subtle threat to your treatment if you don't tip. And the entitlement of employees is disgusting. It's unbelievable how the industry managed to turn the employees to blame the public than their bosses for their shit wages and needing tips. Businesses can afford the wages, but they just don't want it to cut into their profit margins. That and, in addition to the awful treatment, is why I will never go back and also why I won't ever tip again until things change. It's supposed to be gratuity- not something to depend on!!
Well you can't take it out on the waiters, not their fault it isn't illegal what the Employers are doing
Exactly this. The employees are part of the problem. I’d say delivery services are the best example. A lot of them have an attitude of “tip well because that’s basically our pay” and then think it is okay to ruin an order if they get either a crap tip or none at all. The problem is your EMPLOYER, not the customer who doesn’t want to pay double because they’re being pressured into paying both a service fee and a tip.
Businesses can't afford the wages. If they could afford the wages they would not have the highest rate of business failure. There is a reason restaurants hire illegal aliens, and kids.
I'll still tip if the person performing the service is going above and beyond the expectations of the job.
I know what it's like to be the only employee working a shift in a food service job and to have a line starting to go out the door.
At the time, we weren't allowed to accept tips. But that night I said screw that rule and accepted every tip I was given with a thankful heart.
@@bayrondelcid8728 Nor is it the consumers responsibility to make up for a stingy boss not paying their workers enough. It all comes down to greedy owners.
My biggest issue with tipping is i dont agree tips should be % based. They should be based on performance
Personally, I feel like tipping should not be a requirement at all. It should be a bonus. It also shouldn’t be taxed. The fact that tips and bonuses are taxed in the U.S. is absolutely ridiculous
I took out my grandma to go out to this nice restaurant, and the server only come twice only to get or order and serve the meals, no refills or even asking if everything was fine. When they brought the bill the server expected to get a tip and threw a fit about it to me, the customer, who did not feel I was being attended to, the audacity
To be fair I don't like servers coming to my table constantly so I would have tipped them for sure. Don't go to fancy restaurants and stuff on tips that's bad adequate and a way to become known at these businesses you won't get better service the next time lol.
At a nice restaurant the servers are more absent to make the experience seamless. So they’re not constantly pestering you. If you go to Europe that is how we usually serve
The employer of that server is the one who put you in that situation. You should be mad at them.
i always found it strange, the tipping system in the US ; i live in a place where it's "service included" in the price; and when i tip it's mostly because i add complexity in my order, like limited time or something like that, and it's, by social convention, hiden under the napkin ; you don't proclam what you tip, it's private matter. most likely if the waiter throw me a tablette with a tip button, i would not give anything.
Crumbl cookie will ask you to leave a $2-$3 tip on a $5 cookie without shame.
It feels so unreal to me. No idea about somewhere else, but in France, you basically tip at the end of a meal at a restaurent of in a café if you had a good service and if you feel like it. Often you tip with the few coins you have left on you, from 50 cents to 2 euros.
thats because french people are stingy and never tip anywhere they go most of the time. It's more about the french mentality rather than the tipping part. Other places do tip higher but also like in france it's if you like the service and you want to tip them.
@@nemie23_ its exactly the same in Australia, tips aren't expected are much small and only given for good service and food. In my country staff get paid penalty rates on top of their normal hourly rate for night work and weekends this is normally 1.5 - 2.00x the hourly rate
In spain you dont even get a x1.5-2 rate normally too. Its just the same rate for a 40hrs/week shift even if you work past 12pm
@@nemie23_ Lol, nothing to do with being stingy, they just have a job and are paid for it by their boss. Anything beyond that is a bonus. Even the french translation for tipping is "pourboire" litteraly "to drink", an extra so they can buy themselves a drink.
@@roudkaross Bro you won’t make it in America. I’m sorry homie you are a bunch of stingy people with their nose so far up that a$$ you don’t respect us we don’t respect you much either 🇺🇸 😘
I went to America for the first time and I bought a beer in San Jose and the guy wanted a 20% tip for just serving it. Obviously I gave him zero but it was a strange experience
A dollar a drink, if you expect your next drink to come anytime soon. Bartenders are busy people.
Follow the culture of the places you visit and you’ll have a smoother time. If that includes tipping, so be it. If it doesn’t, so be it. “When in Rome.”
A personal protest ain’t changing anything. You know that.
We know about you overseas people lmfao. It's hilarious that you're like... Obviously I didn't tip... UK right? Just buy beer at the grocery store 🤣🤣🤣
@@dr1flush is the joke that Black and Brown don't tip? Do you have any Black or Brown friends?
@@dr1flush We'll never know for sure because some jerk shot up the whole place 5 minutes later 💁
if i pay 5 dollar for a burger then the service to create this burger is included already
because the sheer value for the ingredients and energy is maybe 2 dollars
so im already paying a premium of 3 dollars for the manpower to create and hand it over to me
why should i tip? i dont get it
its something else in a full service restaurant where the waiter or waitress adds to the overall experience and there is definitively a massive skill gap in that profession.
[less than minimum wage (from their employer) + tips = minimum wage] it's their fucking salery, not something they get extra on top of that for good service, have you really not understood how broken the system is?
Asmon: not the companies/apps fault for the increase tipping
Asmon: hey! why doesnt your "no tip" button not work on your app
Gotta love out of context quotes. The no tip button bit was regarding a single instance he experienced. The comment about it not being the company's fault was regarding the overall social pressure people feel to tip and the fact that people are willingly tipping more.
@@jjthe 4:14 seems like they designed the app to make it hard to "not tip"
@@dingowingo7977 See you have an argument to support it being their fault. Why try using out of context quotes to do it instead? Laziness?
I'm not disagreeing with you about the companies making the app being at least partially to blame. I simply find it to be disingenuous to use statements someone made in a misleading way to support your argument.
@@jjthe Asmongold: "oh yeah they HAVE this one at Sonic like Sonic the not like Sonic the Hedgehog the fucking hotdog place and uh i clicked the "no tip" and it it doesnt do anything, yeah it doesnt do anything there is like nothing that happens at all its just crazy man, uh yeah Sonic is dead yeah it its like you click and it doesnt finish the transaction, it just acts like you didnt hit a button so maybe you hit the tip button after that." 17:38
do you feel smarter yet? sorry that i removed all his mannerisms, if anything the stuff i removed to make it a cleaner and more readable quote actually hurt my argument cause Asmon even mentions ill-will from the app by saying "so maybe you hit the Tip button after that".
Reason i thought it was so funny because a few mins earlier he tells people to just not tip if you dont wanna then recalls an instance where he wasnt able to "not tip" 😂
I am confused cause i watched this video 60 days ago and you have forgotten most of it in 24 hours 🤔
Part of the problem is the servers themselves though. Some of them don't want to go to the full minimum wage as they make significantly more with tipping. My brother is a server who makes $6.25 an hour as the state minimum wage for tipped employees. With tips he always does more than the state regular minimum wage($16) and generally somewhere between $25-30 an hour. He told me he probably wouldn't do the job if he got moved to the regular minimum wage as more people would feel less obligated to tip.
Tips are supposed to be reported to the IRS. In practice, it’s often cash, so most of it isn’t. Servers make a fortune from tips in high end establishments, so they’re not wanting a fixed $18/hour in many cases unless they make crap tips.
I can tell you in California servers make minimum wage and still get tipped like crazy.
I tip for above and beyond service. An extra nice haircut to a super fast pizza delivery, etc.
I do not tip for just doing your job.
Tipping a hotel for making a room reservation ONLINE, using a totally automated system is WILDDD
There's a big difference between spending an hour styling someone's hair to their request or waiting on a table for several hours and making a coffee in 30 seconds
Agreed. Tipping for personalized service can make sense (especially if you're making difficult or tedious requests). Tipping someone who stays behind a counter for merely doing their job is ridiculous.
@@CC-ru8pi exactly. I’d even argue if you go to McDonald’s and order 50 cheeseburgers all with smiley faced ketchup patterns then you should give a generous tip. But definitely not if you just order a Big Mac meal with fries.
But that doesn't make sense, you paid for that hair stylist to do your hair for an hour. Why tip unless she did an exceptional job?
@@nine9nine9 to show appreciation
This is how it's generally done in the UK. Table service or service that goes above and beyond, you'll tip in cash when you leave. If it's counter service, you typically don't tip because they've just stuck some food on a tray for you.
I 100% agree with it being uncomfortable with the choice to "not tip," in front of the employee who helped you. It makes you feel obligated to tip, even if and you don't want to be "rude"... Great video Asmongold!! 💯
If you don't, then you are rude
Meh, I learned to take pleasure in rejecting them straight to their face. It's rude that they do it, so I feel it warrants at least a cold response.
@@Dominian1 bro what are you, 90?
gratuity look it up
@@Learning2BeBrave entitlement look it up
its so sad because i work for a moving company and we are paid fair enough for our work but all of the workers act entitled to a tip from the customers and its kinda crazy.
Asmon, there does exist a thing called "Tip-Shift" differential which is enforced at the federal level. Which covers the difference of hourly wages between the sub minimum wage and minimum wage. If an employee makes less than the hourly minimum wage, the employer MUST cover the difference. Its not amazing, but it does shatter the $2/hr narrative.
I'm glad I'm in alignment with Asmongold here. I'll leave a tip based if I was provided an superior service. Grabbing my takeout, or getting something behind a counter so I can buy it from you is not providing me a service, you're doing your job.
What is not their job if I might ask, clearly they should not do things that are not their job at working hours.
@@-PureRogue hence you don't usually tip McDonalds, you tip in a restaurant where a person waits for you
@@aonodensetsu brother I was at Subway today and I shit you not there is a new option when you pay to "tip your sandwich artist" . I don't think we're far off from being expected to tip at McDonalds
@@majora919 I'm done with Subway. They jacked up prices and quality going down. Doesn't help the body language of the 'sandwich artists' when they speaking in their own language makes me think they are saying some nasty things. Debit machine now has three large options to tip that always show up when you trying to pay, The don't tip bar is razor thin comparted to the 10% 15% and 20% tip buttons.
A problem with TIP's is that employers will actually dip into your tips and get a cut despite never even seeing the customer. The top of the food chain has seen the scraps their employees are getting and are now trying to get their piece of the pie.
It’s illegal for a employer to take your tips. They can force you to agree to tip a certain percent of your sales to food runners and other staff but the employer themselves can’t take a cut.
@@Truhandle91 I mean if your employer is stealing your tips you call the department of labor. It’s that easy mate, if your tips are being stolen by your employer and you LET them keep doing it to you the only one to blame is you.
@@thelastgamer1the EEOC investigation would take years and you should have left a long time before then. That's how this stuff happens despite being illegal.
There should be 3 equal buttons. 1) customize %
2) customize $ if you want to rount to a full dollar amount
3) no tip
And as Info in my country in Europe everyone with a full time job makes a life able minimum wage
In Italy it’s illegal to count tips as parts of your salary. I also think I’ve never seen anyone asking for a tip in Italy in my entire life. Tips are just a bonus that you should give to someone because you’ve found their service good
Only time I ever tip here in the UK is at my barber's. Italian place, dude adds in products for free that usually cost unprompted if you're dead still. So I add 25% onto the cost to cover for it and as a thanks for his great services over the years.
I think the best way to avoid the pressure of those tip kiosks is to just pay in cash
I'm from Brazil, we dont really have a culture of tipping, but we have an additional 10% on some restaurants that you can just say that you wont pay and thats fine... people that works on the food industry here are used to not getting tipped, and when you do tip someone they feel really happy about it (and treat you better on the next time)
Tipping this high is like actively supporting tax evasion. Its also unfair, since depending on your location, some earn way more and some earn way less for the same work.
I stopped tipping that much years ago when im in the US. I dont give a fuck about it anymore after seeing, that a guide got tipped ~ 2.500 USD from around 30 people for less than two weeks of work, for not really doing something special. Wasnt extraordinary kind, or helpful etc. Just did his job well... like it was his FUCKING JOB.... for which we already PAID in the beginn.
This felt so hillarious, that i instantly said to myself, fuck that shit. They either pay their workers a fair wage from the getgo and put it on the price tag or i dont care. I have no problem with small bucks as a gratitude for above level service. But when someone insists on certain numbers like 7$/day or 25% per meal regardless of the performance, im out. Hate me, but im not here to spend money on some shady system out of misunderstood social pressure. I do my job everyday as its expected from me and i dont get tipped from my coworker or my boss, why should i tip any other person, which just does his/her job, just because its falsely labeled as "service job".