Say what you will about the first two seasons of TNG, there truly were some wonderful moments. I love this scene. It's a great example of how people should conduct themselves in the workforce, especially leaders. You really see the compassion, respect, and loyalty the captains have for those under their command. And the awesome thing is, Picard never raises his voice or swears while defending Riker! The older I get, the more I've come to appreciate Star Trek.
I've noticed in Riker's files that he's always giving suggestions that are followed by Data giving better suggestions, then Riker saying, "That's crazy Data!" and then Data's advice saves the ship.
Unfortunately, that led to them repeatedly sideswiping Kelsey Grammer's starship for 17 days before Data finally said "On second thought, let's do Riker's thing."
Yes, Riker had a joviality about him. This didn't mean he was unfit for command. He used this joviality to make a pleasant work environment for his people, knowing that a pleasant work environment boosts productivity and engenders loyalty. That's what Mr. Kolrami missed. He thought Riker didn't take his duties and responsibilities seriously and nothing could be further from the truth. It's called "command style". Every leader has a style. None (of the ones that work) are better or worse than the others, They are simply the way that the leader has found best to lead.
@@JnEricsonx Yep. When the fecal matter hit the rotating air pusher, he got real serious real fast. But when everything went as planned, he saw no need to be all grim and serious. Like I said: command style.
@@Cobalt985 No it doesn’t as much as you want it to be. It should be a good time right now to get a reality check if you look up to these make believe characters. Applying realism and whatever practicality, corporeal or concreteness to these fictional characters only proves that you people have not grown past your juvenile desires and frankly it says much about your personality. Naive, Ignorant, Childish, ultimately Immature.
@@davecrupel2817 Rule 34 on Riker. Never thank me for suggesting it, in fact you should just go about your own life and never look back. Turn around now and never entertain such thoughts again.
I believe Mr. Kolrami raises some interesting questions about Cmdr. William T. Riker here. I also believe Capt. Jean-Luc Picard is ready to answer them.
Kolrami: You're saying the crew will obey Riker because they like him? Foolish. They should obey because he's their 'Captain'. No needs to 'like' him. Picard: Mr. Kolrami, do you know what 'friends' are? K: Friends? I don't know this word. P: I thought not.
He kind of has a point. You shouldn't necessarily be buddy buddies with your Captain. To do that opens a near inevitable road towards drama and unnecessary troubles between crew and/or captain.
@@davecrupel2817 Except in this case, youre dealing with people 24/7. Its your life. If you arent buddy buddy with everyone on the ship, there will be far more drama because this isnt a 9-5 job. Your entire family, youre entire friend group, your entire world is on that ship at all times. If you cannot be friends with someone whom youre spending literally decades with, youre not going to have a good time.
Perhaps on a military vessel, but Starfleet is not a military organization. It's an exploration corps that sometimes finds itself in combat. There is a big difference with that in mind.
I was always surprised Picard wasn't more direct with Kolrami here. Whatever his opinion of Riker, the Commander is the first officer, and Kolrami is undermining the chain of command by constantly insulting him and placing doubt in the minds of the crew. Whatever misgivings he has about Riker should be spoken in private or not at all.
Damn...this was really well acted. I didn't realize that this show was sometimes very well acted. It has been years since I've watched this. Even the actor playing Mr. Kolrami is really good.
@@jimmyjango5213You're probably thinking of Glenn Shadix, who played Associate Bob in Demolition Man (he also played Otho, the interior decorator in Beetlejuice). Kolari was played by Roy Brocksmith, who was more well-known for playing Dr. Edgemar in Total Recall. He was the guy trying to convince Quaid that he was in a simulation but started sweating though he wasn't at risk. While he had a few memorable roles on screens, he was an accomplished stage actor.
Picard: I would to know the root of your prejudice for my first officer, you have been nothing but denigrating and abusive of Commander Riker since coming aboard this ship, now i would like some explanation! Kolrami: Well...I've seen Rascals and Generations...... Picard: Thank you that will be all....
Picard "If you disrespect my first officer 1 more time, I will personally throw you into a torpedo tube and give Mr. Worf the order to fire. IS THAT CLEAR?"
“Why don’t you like Cmdr Riker??” “Umm... well... I DON’T LIKE HOW HE SITS IN CHAIRS! I mean... HAVE YOU SEEN HIM SIT IN CHAIRS?? WHY DOES HE DO THAT??? SERIOUSLY? WHY??”
Not exactly. The conflict between Jellico and Riker was that Riker was making his own calls, trying to work something out with his superiors and subordinates. Which is fine with a Captain like Picard who is willing to listen and spend time working with his crew and who generally trusts Riker to make the right calls. But Jellico is the kind of man who wants things done when he orders them and be informed about things happening with the ship. And when Riker makes decisions without telling him, doesn't fullfill Jellico's direct orders and keeps challenging his decisions (even when it is done in privat), then Jellico has a second in Command whom he cannot trust. Riker being jovial with the crew was not the issue.
@@wjzav1971 The problem is also a bit more nuanced than that. Jellico took command of the Enterprise while Picard was leading a team on a risky mission in Cardassian space. Relations between the Federation and Cardassia were very tense and it was clear war could break out at any time. Jellico had to make sure the Enterprise was ready for war. Enterprise was still setup to run as an exploratory vessel, which would need significant changes to keep up with wartime demands. Jellico had a lot to change, and not a lot of time to do it in. Simply put, Jellico didn't have the time to do things in a manner that would be easy for the crew; he had to step on everyone's toes to make sure the Enterprise was ready for a war scenario as soon as possible. Jellico knew everyone would hate him but he had to be okay with that because if it did come to war, at least the ship would already be capable of handling the change in pace.
@@Kelorel Agreed. Honestly, Starfleet was pretty dumb to change command of their flag ship right before a crisis. Also to send a hight ranking officer with deep knowledge of their tactical plans right into enemy terrirtory with two officers who are not experienced in special operations. Does Starfleet not have dedicated spec ops teams who train specifically for that?
Riker would have made a good captain, but the show kept having to come up with silly reasons for him to turn down offers to command his own ship. *Edit:* Case in point, I watched the season two episode "The Icarus Factor" last night which is the first episode in which Riker is offered his own command, and at one point he admitted he would be a fool to pass up the opportunity. Even Picard seemed to agree, telling Riker that despite the prestige that came with being second in command of Starfleet's flagship, he was still only second in command, and that there was no substitute for being in the captain's chair. In the end, Riker turned down the offer for no well defined reason, just said something vague about personal growth.
How is "he didn't want to" a silly reason? As Counselor Troi pointed out in Best of Both Worlds, he was happy on the Enterprise. To put it another way: "Just because you're hung like a moose doesn't mean you have to do porn." - Kumar Patel
@@NealX_Gaming It's not just that he didn't want to but the reasons he didn't want to. An ambitious go-getter like him should have jumped at the first opportunity to command his own ship.
@SLOWPOKE RODRIGUEZ No, I didn't miss the point I understand the prestige of wanting to command the Federation's flagship, but Picard was not in any hurry to retire, meaning that Riker would have whiled away his prime years without ever commanding his own ship. And even if Riker had transferred to another ship to serve as captain, he would have been first in line to get the Enterprise when Picard finally decided it was time to hang it up. So, yes, the show did diminish Riker slightly every time the writers contrived a reason for him to refuse his own command.
"Circumstantially-inappropriate joviality." In other words, this puffed-up gasbag is saying "Riker is too happy." Which, having learned a bit more about the show's history, also must be a subtle jab at the writers of the first season, who said that Riker shouldn't smile too much, and should always have a "glint in his eye" reminiscent of some actor whose name I can't remember. They learned their lesson in season two when viewers said the character was too "dry." That's when they allowed a bit more of "Frakes" into the Riker character. In essence, that was when Riker "Grew The Beard," to quote the trope.
Remember, this was late S2. Picard and Riker had both spent the better part of two years being intolerably arrogant and had shown almost none of the far softer traits that would later lead us to love them.
Picard: "CMDR. Riker, it's says in your file that you wouldn't allow the Captain on Away Missions, do you always disregard the orders of your captain?' Riker: " I value the orders of my captain, BUT I value the safety and life of my captain considerably more" Picard, thinking to himself: " Now THERE'S XO I can trust"
Unfortunately Kolrami's style is all too evident in organizations like the US Navy. Officers who should be leading, often hide behind rules and regulations in order to function. Instead of developing meaningful rapport with subordinates, they instead try to lead with a clipboard, instead of leading with their heart and soul.
Looking back, this guy was a prize example of Star Fleet's thinking during its Golden Age; a chess master rated as a "strategist". This guy would crap his pants if somebody told him he had to actaully lead people in a real live battle and hold the line against a Jem'Hadar battlegroup, or a Borg assault.
I think there was a line in DS9 about his planet falling or running away or some such when they were attacked, unless I'm thinking of the wrong species.
@@Here_is_Waldo I think there is a line, but it's not actually his species mentioned. I think a lot thought it was because Worf gets a "I knew it" look leading back to this episode. But I couldbe wrong.
They could have made a gimmick out of killing off the number one after every few episodes. Could have been hilarious. “And here’s the current and future former number one.”
Those in current times, act the same. Arrive to watch, evaluate a job, the workers performances. Some criticism at least filed to superiors to show you found something/s wrong or the superiors think you didn't do the job of evaluation. If an observer is sent to a job and come back saying all is good there, makes it look as if the observer slept instead of showing inefficiency at the workplace.
in order to justify their position they go out of there way to find problems. like how publishers are removing things from old childrens books like the word fat
I feel or rather thought his issue with commander data was going to be how he always settles for his comfortable position here on the enterprise and never risks going for the winning long term strategy. THis would have paralleled nicely with how Data beats him in the end by using RIker's strategy to beat him in that game
Kolrami be like: _BUT ... BUT .... MAAAAAAAAAATH COMMAAAAANDS!!!_ Common issue in today's society, with the intellectualist technocracy on the march, neglecting the power of spirit.
@@Summersong2262 You are exhibiting exactly the tribalist folly you project outwards, your chosen blindness to what ails humankind. (And very predictable reaction.) The fighting against spiritual aspects is an expression of the growing imbalance. People still chauvinistically promote escalations of the very problem as a solution. (Thus the self-defeating fanaticism that can, just to name one example, be seen so overtly in the US Democrat political course that leads to one awfully shockingly crappy candidate after another, lowering the bar continuously, and then making a big drama of refusal of responsibility when the other tribe's champion wins again.) *There is no smart without heart.* Sad that you didn't see that blatantly obvious message in the video, episode, or Trek in general. It is in fact a constant theme in popculture. But the mass mediocrity just cherrpick and discard, instead of looking at the whole picture, opening to what might be there instead of merely affirming existing ideas. But so is humankind's tragic peril; like plenty of Trek superfans who idolize Spock as a calculator mind, totally missing the crucial plot point of him being half-human, which also explores the value of that duality, the mix, the balance. I have personally experienced a growing very unpleasant emo-tribalism from the atheist-technocratic-intellectualist portions of society, which is growing uncontrolled due to those people's willful blindness and projection, always looking down on the 'other tribe', the 'less intelligent' people, strawmanning and cherrypicking for desperately needed self-validation. It is very poignant that certain 'cult leaders' have been nicknamed the Four Horsemen of Atheism. - There is an ideological crusade going on. And nothing blows a bigot's fuse like calling their capitalized "Atheism" a religion. 😏
Honestly i agree Perfect score in School dosent mean you can do Things Perfectly in real life too ... its truely based on character aswell and mindset.. but ofcourse rikers is amazing in any other way !! But in real life something else.. it just I live in a society where all matters of grades and what you can do on paper.. I'm myself bad on paper but I'm great at my work ..so it makes me confused what is the real stuff ofcourse
Kolrami may have been a pompous cowardly bureaucrat but his assessment of Commander Riker dead on. Riker's joviality resulted in the Enterprise being easily captured by the Fenergi, shot down by the Duras sisters and countless crew being killed or injured in both situations.
Thats not true. If I recall correctly, it was Picard who said something like "They are trying to decide if a twenty years bird of prey is match for the enterprise". Second, who was the idiot who organized a war game in a non secured sector of the federation ? These kind of tests should be made in a backwater sector. So, in principle, no ferenghi, klingons, romulans, cardassians, borg, etc.
@@othaner38 The truly stupid part of the whole wargammes exercise was the needlessly complicated procedure of disabling the phasers to connect the beam arrays instead to some kind of low power sighting laser pulse projection, requiring a switchover from the one system to the other. Why not simply fire the phasers at 1% power against deflector shields, as demonstrated in the surprise mock attack to test the M-5 in "The Ultimate Computer"? Picard would have had his phasers fully available to him when the Kreecta attacked. Of course, nothing excuses Picard being so careless as to not have his deflector shields up and dismissing the appearance of the Ferengi raider as a false sensor ghost. Very bad writing on this episode overall.
@@LordZontar "nothing excuses Picard being so careless as to ... dismissing the appearance of the Ferengi raider as a false sensor ghost" In Picard's defence, Riker had (earlier in the wargame) used a false sensor ghost to surprise attack the Enterprise. So it wasn't totally unreasonable for Picard, when he saw the Ferengi raider, to think Riker was trying the sensor-ghost trick again.
@@saeedbaig4249 No, actually that is not a defence. There is no reason to assume that because one sensor reading might have been false, the other is also a false echo or a decoy. Prudence demands in both cases an immediate state of alert and the taking of defence measures to ensure the safety of the ship.
1:00 - it's kind of funny how Picard always thought of his inability to form connections the way Riker does as a 'defect' of his own personality - leading to him choosing Riker as his XO to balance out his own personal defects
Well if he made it to that point in this dreadful series without dying of boredom, he would look at that "federation fleet" where every ship looks the same, and immediately discern it as a mere special effect.
Riker is jovial, but never disrespectful or heedless of protocol. He is also charismatic and an effective leader. The real issue is that Kolrami is very "by the book", so insistent in what he considers the only right way to command that he cannot grasp unorthodox styles of leadership.
Picard didn't say Riker was the best first officer he had, he said Riker was the finest officer with whom he ever served. This means, in Picard's mind, Riker is simply the best Starfleet has to offer, not merely as a first officer, but as an officer, period. He's not comparing him only to Jack Crusher, but to every single officer he served with from the time he was an ensign (perhaps even a cadet) to his captaincy of the Stargazer and the Enterprise. High praise indeed!
Captian: Would u join me in my Readyroom, Me: Sure but how can we join if we aren't Shapeshifters? Captian in Readyroom : Good we are alone. Me (points to cameras) : This isn't private Captian there's cameras in here. Captian : Oh u are right but Starfleet told me to allow the cameras they want to call it StarTrek The Next Generation So I had no say in the matter
"This was before the people of America succumbed to the allure of liberalism" Let's see here... * With few exceptions, Star Trek has always been progressive/liberal in its messaging. * Conservatives/Republicans typically want to gut public education funding *and* tend to push religion into science classes. Nevermind that, though. Enjoy the alternate facts you've concocted in your head.
edward heaney Dude, Star Trek takes place in a utopian socialist future. For the most part, Star Trek seems to dislike religion because of all the war it causes. They are very open to new peoples and immigration, and the list can go on. Hell, TOS was made as a political message to America. Back then, it was huge to have a black person, a Russian, and an Asian serving on the bridge of a battle ship.
...and yet Star Trek has always stood up for individual freedoms, free speech, discouragement of "group thought/identity" and govt suppression. All of these things are embraced by the left. Even more so at an extreme level by the far left/SJW's.
Kolrami: We shall see if your faith is well-founded. Lol, then of course Riker goes on to order a collision course with the Borg. He gets fired by Jellico. He loses the ship completely at Veridian III. He ejects the warp core in the Briar Patch. Yeah...Riker's got panache but he's not really a great captain. Maybe Kolrami had a point.
In the Briar patch, he lacked options he was used to, warp capability and enemies had subspace weapons. Against the Borg, he had to be creative since they had assimilated all the previous weapon signatures and Starfleet tactics. As for the Veridian III, the Klingons highjacking La Forge's visor gave them the shield frequency. And Jellico, despite being a guy knowing how to fight against Cardassians was a piss poor commander in terms of loyalty inspiration, althought circumstances didn't help him to establish any. There, Riker made a clear judgement due to habit mistake. He just didn't like Jellico(s style and had a temper tantrum about it, he has flaws, his ego being one of them.
Excellent example of how a supervisor stands up for one of his employees.
A true rarity in the job force.
I stood up for an apprentice against someone who could have ended my career if he wished.
Dont Blink Well, of course, this *is* science fiction.
Say what you will about the first two seasons of TNG, there truly were some wonderful moments. I love this scene. It's a great example of how people should conduct themselves in the workforce, especially leaders. You really see the compassion, respect, and loyalty the captains have for those under their command. And the awesome thing is, Picard never raises his voice or swears while defending Riker! The older I get, the more I've come to appreciate Star Trek.
Problem is through out the entire episode the crew are being self absorbed dicks while complaining about this guy being a dick
I've noticed in Riker's files that he's always giving suggestions that are followed by Data giving better suggestions, then Riker saying, "That's crazy Data!" and then Data's advice saves the ship.
Unfortunately, that led to them repeatedly sideswiping Kelsey Grammer's starship for 17 days before Data finally said "On second thought, let's do Riker's thing."
@@EvilMariobot Even a Stopped Riker is right twice a season.
@@DavidAWA Genius. That got me chuckling for a good few minutes.
At least it's better then Worf who suggest something then everyone just says no in unison.
@@miscellaneousshadow7452 I mean to be fair, Worf's "ideas" are all summed up as "WORF SMASH!".
Yes, Riker had a joviality about him. This didn't mean he was unfit for command. He used this joviality to make a pleasant work environment for his people, knowing that a pleasant work environment boosts productivity and engenders loyalty. That's what Mr. Kolrami missed. He thought Riker didn't take his duties and responsibilities seriously and nothing could be further from the truth. It's called "command style". Every leader has a style. None (of the ones that work) are better or worse than the others, They are simply the way that the leader has found best to lead.
When shit got serious, Riker went 100% serious. When it wasn't as serious, he was lighter, but clearly the guy in command, as it were.
@@JnEricsonx Yep. When the fecal matter hit the rotating air pusher, he got real serious real fast. But when everything went as planned, he saw no need to be all grim and serious. Like I said: command style.
This is pretend. You know that right?
@@thesweeples3266 Yes, we do. It does not mean these things don't translate into the real world.
@@Cobalt985 No it doesn’t as much as you want it to be. It should be a good time right now to get a reality check if you look up to these make believe characters. Applying realism and whatever practicality, corporeal or concreteness to these fictional characters only proves that you people have not grown past your juvenile desires and frankly it says much about your personality. Naive, Ignorant, Childish, ultimately Immature.
Let's be honest, we've all observed Riker display circumstantially inappropriate joviality with chairs.
I would like to see more such joviality with women 😁
@@davecrupel2817 Rule 34 on Riker. Never thank me for suggesting it, in fact you should just go about your own life and never look back. Turn around now and never entertain such thoughts again.
@@gandalf8216 😕
I believe Mr. Kolrami raises some interesting questions about Cmdr. William T. Riker here. I also believe Capt. Jean-Luc Picard is ready to answer them.
Thank you for this excellent observation, Sir!
Kolrami: You're saying the crew will obey Riker because they like him? Foolish. They should obey because he's their 'Captain'. No needs to 'like' him.
Picard: Mr. Kolrami, do you know what 'friends' are?
K: Friends? I don't know this word.
P: I thought not.
i have a lot of really close friends that i would never go into battle with. if i don't trust that your making the best decision i will not follow.
He kind of has a point.
You shouldn't necessarily be buddy buddies with your Captain. To do that opens a near inevitable road towards drama and unnecessary troubles between crew and/or captain.
Would have been good advice for Riker when he couldn't get along with Capt. Jellicoe.
@@davecrupel2817 Except in this case, youre dealing with people 24/7. Its your life. If you arent buddy buddy with everyone on the ship, there will be far more drama because this isnt a 9-5 job. Your entire family, youre entire friend group, your entire world is on that ship at all times. If you cannot be friends with someone whom youre spending literally decades with, youre not going to have a good time.
Perhaps on a military vessel, but Starfleet is not a military organization.
It's an exploration corps that sometimes finds itself in combat. There is a big difference with that in mind.
I was always surprised Picard wasn't more direct with Kolrami here. Whatever his opinion of Riker, the Commander is the first officer, and Kolrami is undermining the chain of command by constantly insulting him and placing doubt in the minds of the crew. Whatever misgivings he has about Riker should be spoken in private or not at all.
Just because someone is fun to be around does not mean they can't be serious when the situation calls for it.
100%. All my best bosses were great to chat with, but also great to work with.
@@swishfish8858 Awesome Fish.
Commander Riker's true talent is that he always has a leg up on any situation.
And a leg over any chair.
@@SWIFTO_SCYTHE Good lord! I was thinking the same thing before I clicked on your post and read it.
He's got a bad back.
That's a fact.
When he sees Riker in action Kolrami admits he was wrong with his "He's quite good" statement after cackling at Riker and Worf's trick warbird.
We thought picard looked so old and wizened back then... Now he looks so young
he ages in reverse. it's somewhat unsettling!
to be honest, i always liked riker in TNG, old enough to be wise and experienced, young enough to know that nobody is perfect.
why would you say that dishonestly
"I will match his command style against your 'sta-tis-tics' any time"
I love the contempt in his voice when he said that word.
Damn...this was really well acted. I didn't realize that this show was sometimes very well acted. It has been years since I've watched this.
Even the actor playing Mr. Kolrami is really good.
he played guys that you want to punch in the face really well…
Pretty sure he has a role in 'Demolition Man' too
@@jimmyjango5213You're probably thinking of Glenn Shadix, who played Associate Bob in Demolition Man (he also played Otho, the interior decorator in Beetlejuice). Kolari was played by Roy Brocksmith, who was more well-known for playing Dr. Edgemar in Total Recall. He was the guy trying to convince Quaid that he was in a simulation but started sweating though he wasn't at risk. While he had a few memorable roles on screens, he was an accomplished stage actor.
@@JarrodFrates Ahh right. Good actors, good roles
It isn't just the acting. It's also the writing. You couple great actors with great material, and you get gold coming out of your ears.
I’m sorry ... all I can think of while watching this is “MOISTURIZE ME!”
😆That is hilarious!
Was that a BtVS Balthazar reference?
@@ericmcconnaughey2782Lady Cassandra, the last human in the first series of the Ninth Doctor
The absolute loyalty these characters have for each other is super awesome. It's just one of the many things that makes the show awesome.
Capt. Picard - "Mr. Kolrami, may I speak with you in private?"
Crew member he was talking to: "Uh oh, now you've done it."
Mr Kolrabi looks like a species of turnip.
I read that as "Trump" and agreed more.
True, but Kohlrabi is also a variety of turnip.
Picard: I would to know the root of your prejudice for my first officer, you have been nothing but denigrating and abusive of Commander Riker since coming aboard this ship, now i would like some explanation!
Kolrami: Well...I've seen Rascals and Generations......
Picard: Thank you that will be all....
Picard "If you disrespect my first officer 1 more time, I will personally throw you into a torpedo tube and give Mr. Worf the order to fire. IS THAT CLEAR?"
“Why don’t you like Cmdr Riker??” “Umm... well... I DON’T LIKE HOW HE SITS IN CHAIRS! I mean... HAVE YOU SEEN HIM SIT IN CHAIRS?? WHY DOES HE DO THAT??? SERIOUSLY? WHY??”
Had a back injury before he got into movies which is also why he does the one foot stretch thing
"He has a back injury! I will not tolerate ableism aboard my starship!"
Recall, recall, recall...
This is exactly the divisive factor that drives a wedge between Jellico and Riker.
Not exactly. The conflict between Jellico and Riker was that Riker was making his own calls, trying to work something out with his superiors and subordinates. Which is fine with a Captain like Picard who is willing to listen and spend time working with his crew and who generally trusts Riker to make the right calls.
But Jellico is the kind of man who wants things done when he orders them and be informed about things happening with the ship. And when Riker makes decisions without telling him, doesn't fullfill Jellico's direct orders and keeps challenging his decisions (even when it is done in privat), then Jellico has a second in Command whom he cannot trust.
Riker being jovial with the crew was not the issue.
@@wjzav1971 The problem is also a bit more nuanced than that. Jellico took command of the Enterprise while Picard was leading a team on a risky mission in Cardassian space. Relations between the Federation and Cardassia were very tense and it was clear war could break out at any time. Jellico had to make sure the Enterprise was ready for war.
Enterprise was still setup to run as an exploratory vessel, which would need significant changes to keep up with wartime demands. Jellico had a lot to change, and not a lot of time to do it in. Simply put, Jellico didn't have the time to do things in a manner that would be easy for the crew; he had to step on everyone's toes to make sure the Enterprise was ready for a war scenario as soon as possible. Jellico knew everyone would hate him but he had to be okay with that because if it did come to war, at least the ship would already be capable of handling the change in pace.
@@Kelorel Agreed.
Honestly, Starfleet was pretty dumb to change command of their flag ship right before a crisis. Also to send a hight ranking officer with deep knowledge of their tactical plans right into enemy terrirtory with two officers who are not experienced in special operations. Does Starfleet not have dedicated spec ops teams who train specifically for that?
except Riker really does come across as an irresponsible jerk in Jellico's episode
Bet this guy had a field day when he hears Riker lost the federation flagship to an obsolete bird of prey in such a staggering incompetent style.
To be fair, the ships only therapist was doing the driving😂
I take Mr. kolrami has, somehow, never heard of Kirk.
As Machiavelli pointed out, to be feared is more dependable than to be loved (although you must not be despised).
Machiavelli obviously didn't have a dog.
@@Warrior_Culture Or at least one'd hope not.
He's just jealous of RIker's magnificent beard
Riker would have made a good captain, but the show kept having to come up with silly reasons for him to turn down offers to command his own ship.
*Edit:* Case in point, I watched the season two episode "The Icarus Factor" last night which is the first episode in which Riker is offered his own command, and at one point he admitted he would be a fool to pass up the opportunity. Even Picard seemed to agree, telling Riker that despite the prestige that came with being second in command of Starfleet's flagship, he was still only second in command, and that there was no substitute for being in the captain's chair. In the end, Riker turned down the offer for no well defined reason, just said something vague about personal growth.
He didn't want just any ship tho. it took the destruction of Enterprise D before he'd take his own command.
He wanted to stay close to his girlfriend & future Wife Deanna :p
How is "he didn't want to" a silly reason? As Counselor Troi pointed out in Best of Both Worlds, he was happy on the Enterprise.
To put it another way: "Just because you're hung like a moose doesn't mean you have to do porn." - Kumar Patel
@@NealX_Gaming It's not just that he didn't want to but the reasons he didn't want to. An ambitious go-getter like him should have jumped at the first opportunity to command his own ship.
@SLOWPOKE RODRIGUEZ No, I didn't miss the point I understand the prestige of wanting to command the Federation's flagship, but Picard was not in any hurry to retire, meaning that Riker would have whiled away his prime years without ever commanding his own ship.
And even if Riker had transferred to another ship to serve as captain, he would have been first in line to get the Enterprise when Picard finally decided it was time to hang it up.
So, yes, the show did diminish Riker slightly every time the writers contrived a reason for him to refuse his own command.
"Circumstantially-inappropriate joviality." In other words, this puffed-up gasbag is saying "Riker is too happy."
Which, having learned a bit more about the show's history, also must be a subtle jab at the writers of the first season, who said that Riker shouldn't smile too much, and should always have a "glint in his eye" reminiscent of some actor whose name I can't remember.
They learned their lesson in season two when viewers said the character was too "dry." That's when they allowed a bit more of "Frakes" into the Riker character.
In essence, that was when Riker "Grew The Beard," to quote the trope.
and then ironically, it was the very things that Kolrami hated about Riker that made him such a good captain aboard the USS Titan.
Remember, this was late S2. Picard and Riker had both spent the better part of two years being intolerably arrogant and had shown almost none of the far softer traits that would later lead us to love them.
Really? I liked them from the get go.
Pre-Borg meeting?
Picard: "CMDR. Riker, it's says in your file that you wouldn't allow the Captain on Away Missions, do you always disregard the orders of your captain?'
Riker: " I value the orders of my captain, BUT I value the safety and life of my captain considerably more"
Picard, thinking to himself: " Now THERE'S XO I can trust"
like how Picard say's "Command Style " British Accent
He doesn’t like Riker’s joviality ....God knows what he’d think of The Sisko’s cool style
Riker has shown on a number of occasions that he is dedicated, if only for a while, to the women who are under him.
I like the part that has the little electrical 'buzz' for a split second at the end of the video
Unfortunately Kolrami's style is all too evident in organizations like the US Navy. Officers who should be leading, often hide behind rules and regulations in order to function. Instead of developing meaningful rapport with subordinates, they instead try to lead with a clipboard, instead of leading with their heart and soul.
This guy was pompous with a capital P
Picard is much more pompous in the clip.
And a capital OMPOUS
I think you "pompous" with a capital ASS.
Wanna see Riker get serious? Call a Romulan warbird.
The way he plays this character is incredible.
Looking back, this guy was a prize example of Star Fleet's thinking during its Golden Age; a chess master rated as a "strategist". This guy would crap his pants if somebody told him he had to actaully lead people in a real live battle and hold the line against a Jem'Hadar battlegroup, or a Borg assault.
I think there was a line in DS9 about his planet falling or running away or some such when they were attacked, unless I'm thinking of the wrong species.
@@Here_is_Waldo I think there is a line, but it's not actually his species mentioned. I think a lot thought it was because Worf gets a "I knew it" look leading back to this episode. But I couldbe wrong.
It’s the guy from a Total Recall
yeah the psychologist that Arnie shoots in the head
@@TheChoujinVirus that was the fatal mistake that got Arnie stuck in his mind :(
Rekall
Swallow it!
Before Total Recall he was Squiggy from Laverne and Shirley.
They could have made a gimmick out of killing off the number one after every few episodes. Could have been hilarious.
“And here’s the current and future former number one.”
They could have put the doomed No. 1 in a red shirt for his farewell appearance.
with a face like that he has no place to criticize
Those in current times, act the same. Arrive to watch, evaluate a job, the workers performances. Some criticism at least filed to superiors to show you found something/s wrong or the superiors think you didn't do the job of evaluation. If an observer is sent to a job and come back saying all is good there, makes it look as if the observer slept instead of showing inefficiency at the workplace.
in order to justify their position they go out of there way to find problems. like how publishers are removing things from old childrens books like the word fat
"Captain, you're not really here. You're still at Rekall."
Best quality I've ever heard
Thanks for posting.
Just swallow the damn pill, Picard.
Berner - I know you wrote this comment over a year ago but I just read it now. I immediately got the reference…. Total Recall! Very good..
Swallow it!
A fancy way of saying "I just don't like his attitude"
Like a nerd who plays starcraft, he thinks he knows war.
I feel or rather thought his issue with commander data was going to be how he always settles for his comfortable position here on the enterprise and never risks going for the winning long term strategy. THis would have paralleled nicely with how Data beats him in the end by using RIker's strategy to beat him in that game
Love the fart bit at the end.
Kolrami be like: _BUT ... BUT .... MAAAAAAAAAATH COMMAAAAANDS!!!_
Common issue in today's society, with the intellectualist technocracy on the march, neglecting the power of spirit.
Quite the opposite. Expertise, experience, and hard-won knowledge are increasingly dismissed in favour of passion, instinct, and petty tribalism.
@@Summersong2262 You are exhibiting exactly the tribalist folly you project outwards, your chosen blindness to what ails humankind. (And very predictable reaction.) The fighting against spiritual aspects is an expression of the growing imbalance. People still chauvinistically promote escalations of the very problem as a solution. (Thus the self-defeating fanaticism that can, just to name one example, be seen so overtly in the US Democrat political course that leads to one awfully shockingly crappy candidate after another, lowering the bar continuously, and then making a big drama of refusal of responsibility when the other tribe's champion wins again.)
*There is no smart without heart.* Sad that you didn't see that blatantly obvious message in the video, episode, or Trek in general. It is in fact a constant theme in popculture. But the mass mediocrity just cherrpick and discard, instead of looking at the whole picture, opening to what might be there instead of merely affirming existing ideas.
But so is humankind's tragic peril; like plenty of Trek superfans who idolize Spock as a calculator mind, totally missing the crucial plot point of him being half-human, which also explores the value of that duality, the mix, the balance.
I have personally experienced a growing very unpleasant emo-tribalism from the atheist-technocratic-intellectualist portions of society, which is growing uncontrolled due to those people's willful blindness and projection, always looking down on the 'other tribe', the 'less intelligent' people, strawmanning and cherrypicking for desperately needed self-validation.
It is very poignant that certain 'cult leaders' have been nicknamed the Four Horsemen of Atheism. - There is an ideological crusade going on.
And nothing blows a bigot's fuse like calling their capitalized "Atheism" a religion. 😏
@@Dowlphin awful lot of words to cover your own lack of substance. Spiritualism as a cover for nihilism.
@@Summersong2262 And there your truth was fully revealed.
When I know the demon's name, I speak it.
@@Dowlphin lol 'demons'. Pretty, empty words. Comforting, but little more than your own delusions rattling around your head gathering moss.
Jean Luc, the exercises were needed... The Dominion and the Romulans were much more denigrating and abusive than Mr. Kolrami ever will be.
Picard: why do you hate riker?
Kolrami cuz he's a class clown
Honestly i agree Perfect score in School dosent mean you can do Things Perfectly in real life too ... its truely based on character aswell and mindset.. but ofcourse rikers is amazing in any other way !! But in real life something else.. it just I live in a society where all matters of grades and what you can do on paper.. I'm myself bad on paper but I'm great at my work ..so it makes me confused what is the real stuff ofcourse
Someone farted in my right ear at the end.
Kolrami may have been a pompous cowardly bureaucrat but his assessment of Commander Riker dead on. Riker's joviality resulted in the Enterprise being easily captured by the Fenergi, shot down by the Duras sisters and countless crew being killed or injured in both situations.
We all make mistakes. It's how we grow.
Thats not true. If I recall correctly, it was Picard who said something like "They are trying to decide if a twenty years bird of prey is match for the enterprise". Second, who was the idiot who organized a war game in a non secured sector of the federation ? These kind of tests should be made in a backwater sector. So, in principle, no ferenghi, klingons, romulans, cardassians, borg, etc.
@@othaner38 The truly stupid part of the whole wargammes exercise was the needlessly complicated procedure of disabling the phasers to connect the beam arrays instead to some kind of low power sighting laser pulse projection, requiring a switchover from the one system to the other. Why not simply fire the phasers at 1% power against deflector shields, as demonstrated in the surprise mock attack to test the M-5 in "The Ultimate Computer"? Picard would have had his phasers fully available to him when the Kreecta attacked. Of course, nothing excuses Picard being so careless as to not have his deflector shields up and dismissing the appearance of the Ferengi raider as a false sensor ghost. Very bad writing on this episode overall.
@@LordZontar "nothing excuses Picard being so careless as to ... dismissing the appearance of the Ferengi raider as a false sensor ghost"
In Picard's defence, Riker had (earlier in the wargame) used a false sensor ghost to surprise attack the Enterprise. So it wasn't totally unreasonable for Picard, when he saw the Ferengi raider, to think Riker was trying the sensor-ghost trick again.
@@saeedbaig4249 No, actually that is not a defence. There is no reason to assume that because one sensor reading might have been false, the other is also a false echo or a decoy. Prudence demands in both cases an immediate state of alert and the taking of defence measures to ensure the safety of the ship.
the guy decided to be a major deuce to Riker for his uplifting character as well a command character.
Mr.Kolrami: "He's too jovial."
Picard: "Of course he's jovial, unlike you he actually gets laid."
I wonder what the Zakdorn store in those cheek pouches?
Something to warm up all that hot air they blow out?
Data busted him up
1:00 - it's kind of funny how Picard always thought of his inability to form connections the way Riker does as a 'defect' of his own personality - leading to him choosing Riker as his XO to balance out his own personal defects
Everyone talks about Kolrami ...
No one talks about Picard HUGE, shiny, conehead.
What would Kolrami's reaction be now... seeing Riker in command of the Federation Fleet confronting the Romulans....
Crapping himself under that robe
Well if he made it to that point in this dreadful series without dying of boredom, he would look at that "federation fleet" where every ship looks the same, and immediately discern it as a mere special effect.
More curious his reaction to Riker's stunning acts of incompetence in Generations.
THE WALLS OF REALITY ARE GONNA COME CRASHING DOWN ON YOU PICARD
Kohlrabi is saying what we're all thinking
Picard wasnt having it. Not on my ship.
Woooaaa, DOUGHNUTS!
I always called him Mr. Kohlrabi
Don't fk with Riker when Picards around. You'll find your ass in sling.
0:05 the Starfleet officer - I believe that's the actor who plays Shepherd in the new MW2 :)
His receding hairstyle is asymmetrical like the symbol
They used to space like this.
Riker is jovial, but never disrespectful or heedless of protocol. He is also charismatic and an effective leader. The real issue is that Kolrami is very "by the book", so insistent in what he considers the only right way to command that he cannot grasp unorthodox styles of leadership.
picards statement is too funny because what this is the second ever first officer he has had but yet he is the BEST
Picard didn't say Riker was the best first officer he had, he said Riker was the finest officer with whom he ever served. This means, in Picard's mind, Riker is simply the best Starfleet has to offer, not merely as a first officer, but as an officer, period. He's not comparing him only to Jack Crusher, but to every single officer he served with from the time he was an ensign (perhaps even a cadet) to his captaincy of the Stargazer and the Enterprise. High praise indeed!
Kolrami reminds me of Ben Shapiro for some reason.
Mr Kolromi has one problem, he has the teenie weenie. He probably hasn't seen it since he grew that third chin.
Na, nanananana na na na Kolrami Damacy!)
Kohlrami, kohlrabi... dude has the reasoning ability of a weird vegetable
Almost came to blows there.
From the thumbnail, I thought it was a fat Data
The Zaxorn are all bluff and bluster. It is an indictment on Starfleet that they didn't see right through it from the start.
Brad Pitt says, "Kolrami..."
Damn is that Glenn Morshower from 24? That guy's awesome 😀
Or a sergeant for his subordinates.
Here to bump this up to 69 comments, yeah, this gonna be a sexy comment thread now
Space Accountants/Auditors!
😇 Reminds me, Book of JOB 😇
Riker would have been fired by human resources
What a cheap alien. Triple jowls?!
Captian: Would u join me in my Readyroom, Me: Sure but how can we join if we aren't Shapeshifters? Captian in Readyroom : Good we are alone. Me (points to cameras) : This isn't private Captian there's cameras in here. Captian : Oh u are right but Starfleet told me to allow the cameras they want to call it StarTrek The Next Generation So I had no say in the matter
I studied Riker’s files for 7 seasons and I’ve determined he’s sexually immoral.
Yo is that guy from total recall
didnt know Marlon Brando did a spot on TNG. Looks like they didn't have time to do makeup though.
he probably just bagged a girl he liked
When push comes to shove Kolrami just quits like the loser he is.
Data wins, Kolrami forfeits.
I AM surprised that such complicated sentences an words made into American TV sets. This would benefit many to just LISTEN to how these two talk.
This was before the people of America succumbed to the allure of liberalism
"This was before the people of America succumbed to the allure of liberalism"
Let's see here...
* With few exceptions, Star Trek has always been progressive/liberal in its messaging.
* Conservatives/Republicans typically want to gut public education funding *and* tend to push religion into science classes.
Nevermind that, though. Enjoy the alternate facts you've concocted in your head.
edward heaney Dude, Star Trek takes place in a utopian socialist future. For the most part, Star Trek seems to dislike religion because of all the war it causes. They are very open to new peoples and immigration, and the list can go on. Hell, TOS was made as a political message to America. Back then, it was huge to have a black person, a Russian, and an Asian serving on the bridge of a battle ship.
...and yet Star Trek has always stood up for individual freedoms, free speech, discouragement of "group thought/identity" and govt suppression. All of these things are embraced by the left. Even more so at an extreme level by the far left/SJW's.
Richard They also stood up for mutual respect and cooperation between people, even people who disagree with each other. Keep that lesson in mind.
Kolrami: We shall see if your faith is well-founded.
Lol, then of course Riker goes on to order a collision course with the Borg. He gets fired by Jellico. He loses the ship completely at Veridian III. He ejects the warp core in the Briar Patch. Yeah...Riker's got panache but he's not really a great captain. Maybe Kolrami had a point.
In the Briar patch, he lacked options he was used to, warp capability and enemies had subspace weapons. Against the Borg, he had to be creative since they had assimilated all the previous weapon signatures and Starfleet tactics. As for the Veridian III, the Klingons highjacking La Forge's visor gave them the shield frequency.
And Jellico, despite being a guy knowing how to fight against Cardassians was a piss poor commander in terms of loyalty inspiration, althought circumstances didn't help him to establish any. There, Riker made a clear judgement due to habit mistake. He just didn't like Jellico(s style and had a temper tantrum about it, he has flaws, his ego being one of them.